it feels like, all the time i've reached for distortion or bitcrushing to 'dirty up' a lofi sound, and it wasn't quite right.. this is ACTUALLY what i've been looking for.
I tested this as a VST in Reason. It wouldn't let me choose the different modes. It only changed them when I hovered over them, and reset back to "clipped". I was not particularly bothered by that, and loaded it in to Snap Heap, and it truly is a great plugin. I love the Fuzzy-mode. It's gave the vocal sample the right amount of grit. Can't recommend K❤s plugins and synths enough. GO GET THE ULTIMATE TOOLKIT!
Lol. That was a pretty subtle one, right? Haha. Sometimes “pretty much nothing” is just enough though ;) There are a couple more clear examples of the notches later in the video 👍 As for self-oscillating... there is some internal feedback. I dunno. Try turning it up to eleventeen. (I’m fielding proper replies from the developers so I’ll give you a real answer a little later if that’s cool. All best, /George
@@Kilohearts is there a demo of the unit? I know Phase Plant has a ten day trial. If this filter is in Phase Plant I could just give it a whirl when I take that synth for a spin.
Try running a notch multi filter thru the waveshapers in MOD7. Better yet, try an LFO on a sine + waveshaper, and use that same LFO on the notch filter! Initially I was disappointed MOD7 didn’t have the drive and low boost of AL1. That was until I discovered you’ve got tons of drive and nonlinear filters using waveshapers. It sometimes is useful to invert the phase to eke out various filters characteristics. Tanh, supersquare, and cocoon are fun. Also, don’t forget audio input as well. Useful to route the drum track to drum IFX then that out to an aux. Then the audio input tab actually becomes useful, so that on the patch panel you can use audio in routed thru custom waveshaped nonlinear filter on the drums. Modulating the waveshaper drive is key.
@@RobertKgma Can you elaborate on that? I'm getting linear / predictable output from the vast majority of plugins I use. I'm after "a nonlinear system is a system in which the change of the output is not proportional to the change of the input" if that clarifies.
@@marc-unreal what I meant by that is that any compressor or distortion is non-linear and generates varying amounts of new harmonics based on input level or gain reduction. So distortion and compression is non-linear already... these filters would have wave-shaping, noise and level dependant gain/phase/frequency changes built into their otherwise linear signal paths. Dynamic eqs are also non-linear... delays and filters (eq) alone are linear. If we were to boil it down further, even most filters are just delays(with feedback), its the use of wave-shaping (that includes compression) that makes anything non-linear. So, you could essentially make any eq or filter non-linear by putting some sort of wave-shaping before or after it, or both. You can actually go very deep with basic tools if you have a good grasp of dsp but these new filters in PP are very welcome as it was the only thing missing in my eyes from a sound designers perspective. Characterful filters can change everything
@@RobertKgma Yes, spot on. Nonlinear within its own settings. E.g. changing how hot you are running the signal would change the saturation. That would still be predictable though. Repeating the same INPUT + same SETTINGS produces the same OUTPUT every time. When I said nonlinear I am referring to sending the SAME signal into the SAME settings but getting VARYING outputs E.g. subtle (or not so subtle!) variations in the output over time. I am picturing the equivalent of wave segments in wavetable synthesis applying a varying response. Same thinking as the Klerhaim N1 synth where they said "In a real analog synthesizer everything is moving, changing, modulating, living… analog synth is like a living organism. Nothing is static. The electricity and circuits are in constant 'chaos'. Every note sounds a little bit different, that is why analog sound is rich, organic, warm, fat and like real instrument."
@@marc-unreal thats typically where noise comes in (*and perhaps varying amounts of feedback). Almost every parameter control has a small amount of noise that leaks in which is usually filtered... then you have fluctuations based on temperature but I don’t think it makes much sense to model that digitally. In typical DSP lingo, non-linear doesn’t mean random/different output each time, it means that the ratio at which signal goes in, isn’t the same at which it comes out, perhaps kHs is using the term differently here. In any case, even digital systems are not perfectly linear and too much instability and unpredictability wouldn’t be very musical, I imagine.
AMAZING! Would it be possible to implement an 'inversion' of the filter curve so I could cut the same shape out of the spectrum in one sound and add emphasis to another sound in the exact opposite way? Might make mixing easier? Or does the phase get shifted unevenly that it wouldn't make sense?
I just bought phase plant but oh well, it looks like it’s time to spend more money on kilohearts plugins. Everything you guys make is just so high quality I can’t resist lol
Awesome addition! This should help make Phase Plant sound more lively. I really wish you'd add volume/output knobs to your snapins so we can gain stage between them (when layering them) without needing extra utility plugins though. IMO allll plugins should have output knobs (and A/B comparison functionality).
Oh. Sorry, no - my bad. That’s just an English turn of phrase. It means you have familiar and friendly feelings towards it. Like “good old Rover” the pet dog, or whatever. Doesn’t necessarily mean it’s old. Just that you’re fond of it :) Sorry for the confusion! /George
your guys are always in my toolbox, Disperser and Transient shaper are beasts, Im always tellin people to check you guys out, I love the interfaces too, I cant handle it when a company makes somnething to look like its real hardware, when it's so much easier on fuckin everyone (except maybe the folks that do that portion of the work as their mode of money makin lol) to do it like you guys, simple, straight forward, and it does what it says on the tin, without failure.
Can anyone tell me where to possibly get more presets for this thing??? I love it, already bought it but the preset library is a little shallow imo. Please and thanks!!
I thought I just watch the video and I probably don't like it. But It's a nice plugin to ad interest. And a flatter learning curve then for example Shade by Uvi. Probably it uses less cpu too. I like it.
@@Kilohearts sure, but say if i would want to make a polyphonic patch utilizing this filter it could completely kill my CPU. Thats my point here. Huge respect for your work but synth's own filter is just boring for me :/
Hmm... the filter on its own shouldn't use much more CPU in either the generator section or a poly lane. We've not ruled out the idea of other filters in the generator section but it's not a top priority right now.
Please find a way to not use comboboxes. I need 2 clicks to change the mode, right? Imagine just adding a 4th knob that goes through the modes. You can make the knob snap into positions, or if you really wanna be cool, you implement morphing from one mode to another.
Great question. Answer: maybe... not sure. But probably not. Hopefully. At least not on purpose. Unless we did it for a joke. Or something. Or not. /George
Okay now make my dream plug in. A multiband compressor with individual envelope followers that can process the signal with variable bandpass filters...think about the potential for mayhem and beauty mmmmm
Would also be nice to have a dry/wet and phase invert on this so it could be combined with other filters and get even more interesting sounds
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it feels like, all the time i've reached for distortion or bitcrushing to 'dirty up' a lofi sound, and it wasn't quite right.. this is ACTUALLY what i've been looking for.
Thank you for sharing such a powerful little plugin with the world, you guys are the best
these sound phenomenal on more than synths too. i tend to put them on drums and guitars.
Tested immediately. Sounds great and all the disto types are really interesting. GJ on this one guys!
Yeah, that’s something I really like about it - all the modes are very different from one another. Lots of range in this thing!
/George
@@Kilohearts Opens up many new possibilities. A really great addition to the toolkit (erm, I mean Toolbox!) ;p
living proof, here, that imperfect can be a good thing ;) lovely sounding filter, excited to try it out. nice work, you!
Been with you all from day one! This... is why! No fluff, no nonsense, just awesome innovations that don’t tax the CPU! Great job as usual!
Vocoder next please
Intriguing 🧐
Yes! And lets add a morphoder and a formant shifter while we’re add it
@@Kilohearts and a duck feature in the reverb like the delay has would also totally rock 🙏
@@greedokenobi3855 You can use the input follower in Snap Heap to build your own ducking reverb btw. ❤️
@@Kilohearts I’ve recently been made aware of that, that’s a great feature! 🚀❤️
You guys are killing it! This is an awesome addition to the kilohearts playground 🔥
AMAZING addition. Really nice to have some more filter types besides the ladder and perfect filter
It sounds pretty badass
Love it! Really great for percussive sounds. Thanks!
Nice, please make this available as a generator in Phase Plant in the not too distant future :)
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I tested this as a VST in Reason. It wouldn't let me choose the different modes. It only changed them when I hovered over them, and reset back to "clipped".
I was not particularly bothered by that, and loaded it in to Snap Heap, and it truly is a great plugin. I love the Fuzzy-mode. It's gave the vocal sample the right amount of grit.
Can't recommend K❤s plugins and synths enough. GO GET THE ULTIMATE TOOLKIT!
Sounds awesome!
We like it, yeah :)
/George
I can already hear an incredibly tb 303 bass being made in Phase Plant. AWESOME!!!
1:35 "I particularly like the notches" has a high Q setting so it pretty much sounds like nothing 😂
Cool filter though. Can it self-oscillate?
Lol. That was a pretty subtle one, right? Haha. Sometimes “pretty much nothing” is just enough though ;) There are a couple more clear examples of the notches later in the video 👍
As for self-oscillating... there is some internal feedback. I dunno. Try turning it up to eleventeen. (I’m fielding proper replies from the developers so I’ll give you a real answer a little later if that’s cool.
All best,
/George
@@Kilohearts is there a demo of the unit? I know Phase Plant has a ten day trial. If this filter is in Phase Plant I could just give it a whirl when I take that synth for a spin.
The ten day trial gives you access to all our plugins. ❤
Try running a notch multi filter thru the waveshapers in MOD7. Better yet, try an LFO on a sine + waveshaper, and use that same LFO on the notch filter! Initially I was disappointed MOD7 didn’t have the drive and low boost of AL1. That was until I discovered you’ve got tons of drive and nonlinear filters using waveshapers. It sometimes is useful to invert the phase to eke out various filters characteristics. Tanh, supersquare, and cocoon are fun.
Also, don’t forget audio input as well. Useful to route the drum track to drum IFX then that out to an aux. Then the audio input tab actually becomes useful, so that on the patch panel you can use audio in routed thru custom waveshaped nonlinear filter on the drums. Modulating the waveshaper drive is key.
Kilohearts always coming out with amazing additions :D
Cracking stuff! More non-linear stuff would be great too.. compression, distortion etc.
They already are nonlinear by design.
@@RobertKgma Can you elaborate on that? I'm getting linear / predictable output from the vast majority of plugins I use. I'm after "a nonlinear system is a system in which the change of the output is not proportional to the change of the input" if that clarifies.
@@marc-unreal what I meant by that is that any compressor or distortion is non-linear and generates varying amounts of new harmonics based on input level or gain reduction. So distortion and compression is non-linear already... these filters would have wave-shaping, noise and level dependant gain/phase/frequency changes built into their otherwise linear signal paths. Dynamic eqs are also non-linear... delays and filters (eq) alone are linear. If we were to boil it down further, even most filters are just delays(with feedback), its the use of wave-shaping (that includes compression) that makes anything non-linear. So, you could essentially make any eq or filter non-linear by putting some sort of wave-shaping before or after it, or both. You can actually go very deep with basic tools if you have a good grasp of dsp but these new filters in PP are very welcome as it was the only thing missing in my eyes from a sound designers perspective. Characterful filters can change everything
@@RobertKgma Yes, spot on. Nonlinear within its own settings. E.g. changing how hot you are running the signal would change the saturation. That would still be predictable though. Repeating the same INPUT + same SETTINGS produces the same OUTPUT every time. When I said nonlinear I am referring to sending the SAME signal into the SAME settings but getting VARYING outputs E.g. subtle (or not so subtle!) variations in the output over time. I am picturing the equivalent of wave segments in wavetable synthesis applying a varying response. Same thinking as the Klerhaim N1 synth where they said "In a real analog synthesizer everything is moving, changing, modulating, living… analog synth is like a living organism. Nothing is static. The electricity and circuits are in constant 'chaos'.
Every note sounds a little bit different, that is why analog sound is rich, organic, warm, fat and like real instrument."
@@marc-unreal thats typically where noise comes in (*and perhaps varying amounts of feedback). Almost every parameter control has a small amount of noise that leaks in which is usually filtered... then you have fluctuations based on temperature but I don’t think it makes much sense to model that digitally. In typical DSP lingo, non-linear doesn’t mean random/different output each time, it means that the ratio at which signal goes in, isn’t the same at which it comes out, perhaps kHs is using the term differently here. In any case, even digital systems are not perfectly linear and too much instability and unpredictability wouldn’t be very musical, I imagine.
AMAZING! Would it be possible to implement an 'inversion' of the filter curve so I could cut the same shape out of the spectrum in one sound and add emphasis to another sound in the exact opposite way? Might make mixing easier? Or does the phase get shifted unevenly that it wouldn't make sense?
I just bought phase plant but oh well, it looks like it’s time to spend more money on kilohearts plugins. Everything you guys make is just so high quality I can’t resist lol
Just bought it. Now to use it. Nice character.
Awesome addition! This should help make Phase Plant sound more lively. I really wish you'd add volume/output knobs to your snapins so we can gain stage between them (when layering them) without needing extra utility plugins though. IMO allll plugins should have output knobs (and A/B comparison functionality).
I've got a feeling i'm gonna love these ones :)
What you mean by "OLD kHs snapin system"?! Is there a replacement coming?
Oh. Sorry, no - my bad. That’s just an English turn of phrase. It means you have familiar and friendly feelings towards it. Like “good old Rover” the pet dog, or whatever. Doesn’t necessarily mean it’s old. Just that you’re fond of it :)
Sorry for the confusion!
/George
@@Kilohearts Thanks. Now I'm both happy and disappointed ;) :D
Looks amazing! Can't wait to try it out, thanks Kiloheartz
your guys are always in my toolbox, Disperser and Transient shaper are beasts, Im always tellin people to check you guys out, I love the interfaces too, I cant handle it when a company makes somnething to look like its real hardware, when it's so much easier on fuckin everyone (except maybe the folks that do that portion of the work as their mode of money makin lol) to do it like you guys, simple, straight forward, and it does what it says on the tin, without failure.
Thanks for the positive comment! Great to hear! ❤️
This is pretty awesome. The filter in PP is nice, but didn't really have character. Ty!
Can anyone tell me where to possibly get more presets for this thing??? I love it, already bought it but the preset library is a little shallow imo. Please and thanks!!
I thought I just watch the video and I probably don't like it. But It's a nice plugin to ad interest. And a flatter learning curve then for example Shade by Uvi. Probably it uses less cpu too. I like it.
Is this gonna be included in the Slate bundle as an update?
No such plans at the moment I’m afraid.
/George
Brilliant.
Hi! Love it. Will it be added to slate bundle or should I buy this separately?
Does the SID's filter technically count as non-linear?
Uncluttered simple easy to use GUI. Less fuss getting down to the nitty gritty fast.
Is the drive stil audible when the cutoff is fully open at 100%?
Is this included in the Toolbox Ultimate?
It was included when it launched. So if you bought ULTIMATE before you need to upgrade.
U guys should make a reverb with diffusion and modulation your regular reverb is ok
Will this become a rack extension?
Not at this time, as we are focused on developing the Kilohearts Ecosystem of Snapins and VST/AU/AAX effects. ❤️
@@Kilohearts OK thanks. Shame though, the RE's are sexy.
True...
If only it was optional filter module within Phase Plant and not only an external effect..
You can use all our effects as Snapins in Phase Plant! ❤️
@@Kilohearts sure, but say if i would want to make a polyphonic patch utilizing this filter it could completely kill my CPU. Thats my point here. Huge respect for your work but synth's own filter is just boring for me :/
Hmm... the filter on its own shouldn't use much more CPU in either the generator section or a poly lane.
We've not ruled out the idea of other filters in the generator section but it's not a top priority right now.
@@Kilohearts i should give it a try and compare then. Thanks!
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Price?
Is on the product page... ($19) ❤️
Please find a way to not use comboboxes. I need 2 clicks to change the mode, right? Imagine just adding a 4th knob that goes through the modes. You can make the knob snap into positions, or if you really wanna be cool, you implement morphing from one mode to another.
do these guys make anything bad?
Great question. Answer: maybe... not sure. But probably not. Hopefully. At least not on purpose. Unless we did it for a joke. Or something. Or not.
/George
@@Kilohearts excellent answer
wow could it be used on CAKEWALK
Yes! ❤️
@@Kilohearts ok
man, what if kiloheartz 3rd wheeled the izotope and native instruments collaboration. that would be so cool
Guys, stop sending me Vouchers, I can't buy anything.....got already everything;-) also this last one!
You can always gift it to a friend! ❤️
Okay now make my dream plug in. A multiband compressor with individual envelope followers that can process the signal with variable bandpass filters...think about the potential for mayhem and beauty mmmmm
You could build that in Multipass! ❤️
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