Gosh darnit. I just wasted half an hour trying to figure out how to coil a rope with the over and under method without kinking it or messing it up. And then your video showed me a better way that I learned in 5 minutes. This is incredible.
Since I learned this method from this video, I use it exclusively, and it's amazing! I can coil a 70 meter rope in under a minute, it makes a very neat coil, and if I'm careful to keep it neat when I untie it, I don't even have to flake it out. Plus, it's also a great way to impress your friends! Thanks so much for sharing!! This may be the single most useful youtube video I've ever seen.
Dan Africk Only thing I do differently is when I backpack coil, I pull the two ends under my armpits without crossing them over the chest first. I find that more comfortable, less restricting of my chest, and it doesn't feel like I'm strangling my neck with the rope..
Thanks for sharing! Since I've been coiling my rope like this I've never had any kinks or tangles, it unravels smooth every time. Works way better than coiling 2 strands at a time.
This will help me a lot. I have a rope that is so long that conventional butterfly isn't practical. I get too much in my hands. I thought the point of the butterfly was to just get a stack that you could pull from without getting tangled. You addressed both these pain points in a single video and still made it short and concise.
FOUND IT! i knew i wasn't the only one who did it this way! i showed a fellow caver the other day and he crapped bricks when i got to the end and pulled it apart lol
Thank you!!! I just bought my first rope a week ago, and I uncoiled it wrong so it was full of tangles and twists which made it virtually impossible to coil and store away in a fashion that I was comfortable with. But this video helped greatly! It helped me manage the rope in such a way that I got it all untwisted and it showed an easier way to coil it.
Thanks a bunch man. It took me a little while to get used to it but now I'd never go back. I am curious as to where you learned this: book, mentor, class, random dude with dreads at the crag? Anyway, thanks again and have a good one.
So cool. I wish I liked climbing and heights more because I love the gear and technical side of it. SLC has such cool outdoors stuff. I’m very sad our lake is going to disappear.
I often (not always) use this, but at the end cinch, I first open the bite & drop it over the top of the coil, down to the top of the previous wraps. One advantage is that the rope rests a few inches higher on my back (not past my butt), and the other is that the lines don't crowd my neck, but come out further on my shoulders, to a more comfortable position for the body wrap under my pits first, then around the back. This is also cooler & more comfortable if you apply it over a pack. Your body shape & type will affect what body wrap is most comfortable & stable, so experiment. PS: It also does not matter when you butterfly, if you go straight down & cross up, or even mix them, as long as you never straight down & up, nor cross down & up. PPS: Another advantage of this done quickly, is that the rope tends to untangle more easily than when lifted slowly. However, it cannot be so easily done with a hanging rope.
Nice, certainly looks fast and clean. I'll have to give it a go. I've always done it with the two ends and don't mind racking it every time - At least then I'm certain it's good to go.
The biggest benefits of this method compare to other methods to me is : You don't need to keep lifting / flapping both of your tired arm after climbing to coil the rope.
Best when you are wearing a backpack is to finish off the Butterfly coil with a Mountaineer's tie off. Then you have two evenly weighted coils on either side of your backpack. Steven Thaw, Moraga, California
Just learning this method now - thanks for the vid! The one problem you don't have that I do is hair always getting into the way: if I leave it open it will get tangled. If I tie it in a bun at the back of my head it gets in the way of the rope and if I do a top bun it's a bitch to get the rope over my head - aaaargh! Only hairstyle that works is french braids 😝 Oh well, maybe I'll get used to it. It's a marvelous technique for keeping your rope tidy and easy to use!
Actually, I've been having a problem where the two ends end up on different sides of the rope, (unlike your demonstration, where both ends end up on the same side) which makes the tying up slightly awkward, how can I avoid this?
I just tried this and the other method of butterfly coiling and this one makes the arm you're using to manipulate the rope really tired, really fast. This has the better looking result though, so I guess it's just personal preference. Has anyone ever tried to do this method starting from the middle?
Isaac Abee That would kinda defeat the purpose- having a continuous coil with the ends of the rope on the outside makes the rope feed out very neatly when you're belaying, lowering, flaking, dropping the rope to rappel etc. I hate it when people coil a rope from the middle, it becomes a tangled mess when I try to flake it out
Gosh darnit. I just wasted half an hour trying to figure out how to coil a rope with the over and under method without kinking it or messing it up. And then your video showed me a better way that I learned in 5 minutes. This is incredible.
I made my first rappel in 1971, and you're showing me new things 45 years later. Thanks!
Definitely the best rope coiling video I have seen, and the best technique and explanation. Thanks so much for sharing this!
Since I learned this method from this video, I use it exclusively, and it's amazing! I can coil a 70 meter rope in under a minute, it makes a very neat coil, and if I'm careful to keep it neat when I untie it, I don't even have to flake it out. Plus, it's also a great way to impress your friends! Thanks so much for sharing!! This may be the single most useful youtube video I've ever seen.
Dan Africk Only thing I do differently is when I backpack coil, I pull the two ends under my armpits without crossing them over the chest first. I find that more comfortable, less restricting of my chest, and it doesn't feel like I'm strangling my neck with the rope..
Dan Africk I’ve always done this across my shoulders instead of around my neck and they were very uneven and I always had to flake
Thanks for sharing! Since I've been coiling my rope like this I've never had any kinks or tangles, it unravels smooth every time. Works way better than coiling 2 strands at a time.
This will help me a lot. I have a rope that is so long that conventional butterfly isn't practical. I get too much in my hands. I thought the point of the butterfly was to just get a stack that you could pull from without getting tangled. You addressed both these pain points in a single video and still made it short and concise.
My first lead instructor showed me this method and I couldn't find a video with the criss-cross butterfly method. Thanks!
Thank You for sharing. This is the most useful rope coiling video on youtube. Great technique.
Thanks so much. Love that you do both coiling and uncoiling--the one shows that the other is good.
I just uncoiled my rope to recoil it this way. Im so glad i came across this video! Thanks soo much!
Thanks! You coil that rope like an animal! I love it! I used this video and now this is how I coil my rope thanks to you. It works real well.
FOUND IT! i knew i wasn't the only one who did it this way! i showed a fellow caver the other day and he crapped bricks when i got to the end and pulled it apart lol
Thank you!!! I just bought my first rope a week ago, and I uncoiled it wrong so it was full of tangles and twists which made it virtually impossible to coil and store away in a fashion that I was comfortable with. But this video helped greatly! It helped me manage the rope in such a way that I got it all untwisted and it showed an easier way to coil it.
Great technique and you're so quick!! I didn't notice how you alternate the wrap around your neck from left to right; critical!Thanks so much!!
The most useful tutorial I've seen!!! Thanks Adam!!! :)
so concise, much information, very useful. 10/10
Best I've seen on coiling a rope, but why are you in such a hurry? I had a hard time following and really seeing what you are doing.
straight up then cross, he shows it slow several times before he speeds up.
Just bought my first rope today. I have coiled rope in the past but I love this method! A little tricky at first but the time pays off thanks!
Thanks a bunch man. It took me a little while to get used to it but now I'd never go back. I am curious as to where you learned this: book, mentor, class, random dude with dreads at the crag? Anyway, thanks again and have a good one.
Best video I found on rope foiling thanks
Wow. Just... Wow. This is one of the most useful videos I've seen. Makes it so much quicker to set up and get climbing :P
Thank you so very much, this is now my exclusive method of coiling.
Straigth up and cross down. Good point. Thank you!!
So cool. I wish I liked climbing and heights more because I love the gear and technical side of it. SLC has such cool outdoors stuff. I’m very sad our lake is going to disappear.
I often (not always) use this, but at the end cinch, I first open the bite & drop it over the top of the coil, down to the top of the previous wraps. One advantage is that the rope rests a few inches higher on my back (not past my butt), and the other is that the lines don't crowd my neck, but come out further on my shoulders, to a more comfortable position for the body wrap under my pits first, then around the back. This is also cooler & more comfortable if you apply it over a pack. Your body shape & type will affect what body wrap is most comfortable & stable, so experiment.
PS: It also does not matter when you butterfly, if you go straight down & cross up, or even mix them, as long as you never straight down & up, nor cross down & up.
PPS: Another advantage of this done quickly, is that the rope tends to untangle more easily than when lifted slowly. However, it cannot be so easily done with a hanging rope.
Nice, certainly looks fast and clean. I'll have to give it a go. I've always done it with the two ends and don't mind racking it every time - At least then I'm certain it's good to go.
Awesome!
Thanks for sharing!
Thanks for sharing! Now my dad and I can keep all 3 ropes in the same bag without them tangling together into a large mess.
What a great technique and great simple video :)
Best coiling technique ever...use it and love it...TOP
First class instructionalismisation.
gotta love the stackable backpack rope
I had to watch it 5 times on 25% speed to see what he was doing, but it’s super slick!
Yep, good video this works much better
very wasy and practical, just tried it. Works great! thanks!!
Thanks for the video, you've done that a time or two
Really great Technique ! Thanks for sharing !
That was useful and entertaining - Thanks.
Great video, I once suffered from kinks till I saw this!
You have literally just changed my life. Thank you hehehe
Good video, I still feel comfortable flanking before each climb though.
The biggest benefits of this method compare to other methods to me is :
You don't need to keep lifting / flapping both of your tired arm after climbing to coil the rope.
Freaking genius. Thank you!
Great video, thanks a lot.
I like this method.
Best when you are wearing a backpack is to finish off the Butterfly coil
with a Mountaineer's tie off. Then you have two evenly weighted coils
on either side of your backpack. Steven Thaw, Moraga, California
Great tech. Really helpful
Knows his stuff!
Great video …
good job
Thanks for sharing!
0:54 start
Start at 0:59
is this really faster than a normal butterfly coil starting from both ends?
No, listen to the start again. This is to provide a more consistent stack. You can also switch hands if one gets tired from a long rope or a long day.
Just learning this method now - thanks for the vid! The one problem you don't have that I do is hair always getting into the way: if I leave it open it will get tangled. If I tie it in a bun at the back of my head it gets in the way of the rope and if I do a top bun it's a bitch to get the rope over my head - aaaargh! Only hairstyle that works is french braids 😝
Oh well, maybe I'll get used to it. It's a marvelous technique for keeping your rope tidy and easy to use!
Actually, I've been having a problem where the two ends end up on different sides of the rope, (unlike your demonstration, where both ends end up on the same side) which makes the tying up slightly awkward, how can I avoid this?
Always carry a sharp knife. ;-)
His are on both sides of the rope, you just go off the side and meet them.
So much yes
I just tried this and the other method of butterfly coiling and this one makes the arm you're using to manipulate the rope really tired, really fast. This has the better looking result though, so I guess it's just personal preference.
Has anyone ever tried to do this method starting from the middle?
Isaac Abee That would kinda defeat the purpose- having a continuous coil with the ends of the rope on the outside makes the rope feed out very neatly when you're belaying, lowering, flaking, dropping the rope to rappel etc. I hate it when people coil a rope from the middle, it becomes a tangled mess when I try to flake it out
+Isaac Abee Never coil a rope starting in the middle.
Thanks God he is not on a drugs.... LoL 🤣 👍
kinks, sneaky bastards.
Thanks mate, i'll put this method to good use :)
I'm a dick when it comes to coiling ropes...... no more though. Top tutorial thanks dude
like a BOSS!
revolutionary...
Awesome
bad ass
Yeah, I can't do it no matter what
Cool, Who did actually ideal so good instruction? By you? Gutentag! Grußwort zu Deutschweizer! :)
you must live a very dull life