RDG Crusader and Wall Street Trains

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  • Clips from various sources combined with contemporary brochures and graphics showing the evolution of the Reading Company's Crusader and Wall Street.
    The Crusader was a product of the 1930's streamlining craze and built by the Budd Co. of Philadelphia. It was unique in having an observation car at both ends to eliminate the need to turn the train at its terminals. The lead observation end was encased in a shroud attached to the tender to present a smooth unbroken appearance to the lines of the train. The train was refurbished in the mid 1950s and sold to the CN in the early 60's.
    The Wall Street was one of three products of the Reading's postwar "Modernization Program (the others were the "King Coal" and the "Schuylkill"). Taking a page from parent B&O's playbook, a number of standard heavyweight steel coaches were rebuilt with panoramic windows, streamline skirting, high speed trucks, air conditioning and long distance reclining seats. Lounge and grill/dining cars were also rebuilt on the same pattern. The Wall Street was initially powered with new G-3 Pacifics, while later both trains were dieselized with EMD FP-7's.
    Both trains were eventually replaced with Budd RDC's using second hand RDC combines with the baggage and mail sections converted to dining/bar configurations.

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  • @maz442
    @maz442 5 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    This train was common knowledge in the area where the Reading serviced. This was their finest train.

  • @gregscott989
    @gregscott989 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Lived a block from Jenkintown train station and used to see both the Crusader and the Wall Street there every morning when I was taking the commuter train to Philadelphia to go to school.

  • @allegheny48
    @allegheny48 5 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    Thanks for a very informative video. Interesting that they put an observation on each end camouflaging with the tender streamlining. It certainly had a longevity. MTH modeled the engine (but not the consist) in their Rail King line though the shroud shows some trimming along the firebox. Did you add the sound effects? If so they were very well done. Thanks again for all your hard work.

    • @fmnut
      @fmnut  5 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      I added the diesel sound and music. The steam sounds are on the original video.

    • @kittymuffins6484
      @kittymuffins6484 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@fmnut Your films are excellent, thank you for your dedication.

  • @rimodeler7963
    @rimodeler7963 5 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    Great video ........ loved seeing the stainless steel locomotive and consist. BEAUTIFUL!! Thanks for posting this. Mike

  • @albertpatterson3675
    @albertpatterson3675 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    One can still visit the Reading Terminal in Philadelphia. It's a nice tourist attraction. Or it was a few years back.

  • @terrywitkowski6937
    @terrywitkowski6937 5 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Wow! I didn't know RDG ran trains that fast. Thanks fmnut.

    • @fmnut
      @fmnut  5 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      The news clip quotes the speed at 120 MPH. I'm pretty sure that's an exaggeration. I doubt they ran faster than 80 or so, even on test runs. Maximum timetable speed on the Reading was 75 and 60 on the CNJ.

    • @terrywitkowski6937
      @terrywitkowski6937 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I'm watching the video again. thanks fmnut.

    • @fmnut
      @fmnut  5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@terrywitkowski6937 Also remember that older film cameras tended to speed up movement.

    • @terrywitkowski6937
      @terrywitkowski6937 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I re-watched the video and your probably right. But I clocked an Amtrak train at 79mph going through Montana. The North Coast Hiawatha in 1979.

    • @fmnut
      @fmnut  5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@terrywitkowski6937 Yes, 79 MPH (FRA class 4) is the fastest legal speed without some form of Automatic Train Stop. Perhaps PTC will allow higher speeds on routes not otherwise equipped.

  • @peterhanahoe4913
    @peterhanahoe4913 5 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Excellent stuff indeed and a very nice little film. Tip top on the sounds. Superb looking engine but you'll have to excuse my ignorance in that I had never heard of it before.

    • @ixiairisborne1695
      @ixiairisborne1695 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Yeah, I was going to comment that I'd never heard of it, either.

    • @redram5150
      @redram5150 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Ko the Improbable it ran solely from Philly to the Jersey shore and north to Jersey City. From there the passengers took a ferry to NYC. in its entire life it only ran that one, prestigious at the time, route. It wasn’t used in NYC because the city had banned steam locomotives years prior.

  • @iusetano
    @iusetano 5 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Excellent video. Thank you for the upload.

    • @sandragasbarro4853
      @sandragasbarro4853 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      thing originally had 6 there was a diner and a cafe bar car

  • @kevinhoward9593
    @kevinhoward9593 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I love the music at the start.

  • @kittymuffins6484
    @kittymuffins6484 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    What an incredibly powerful and agile liner and stunning design. What a place in history she holds!

  • @raulrojastirado455
    @raulrojastirado455 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Who still watching this in august 2020

  • @kae4466
    @kae4466 5 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    very informative.

  • @richardgerlach5156
    @richardgerlach5156 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    A dining car on a train between NY and Philly going 120 MPH?!? Better eat fast! Fast Food must have started here!

    • @fmnut
      @fmnut  5 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      That 120 figure was newsreel hyperbole. Top speed was 80, average speed overall about 60.

    • @richardgerlach5156
      @richardgerlach5156 5 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Now I can eat my dinner in peace! Thanks for the info!

  • @richcook2007
    @richcook2007 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I am a huge Reading fan! This is great!!

  • @railroadjim
    @railroadjim 5 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Terrific job putting this all together!

    • @fmnut
      @fmnut  5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Thanks

  • @EntertainmentWorldz
    @EntertainmentWorldz 5 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    great video bro

  • @Consolidation1282
    @Consolidation1282 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Never thought there would be footage of my most fav train and i got to hear its whistle! I got some questions, 1. does the crusader actually have a airhorn and does it use it for crossings? and 2. is that a camel back at the right at 3:55?

    • @fmnut
      @fmnut  5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      All Reading steam locomotives regularly assigned to passenger runs in New Jersey had air horns in addition to steam whistles. I believe this was a state PUC ruling in the 1930s caused by the dramatic increase in grade crossing fatalities associated with the rising use of automobiles. The 117 and 118 had them. I'm not sure under what conditions they were used rather than the steam whistles.

    • @fmnut
      @fmnut  5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Yes, that's a CNJ camelback at Elizabethport.

    • @Consolidation1282
      @Consolidation1282 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@fmnut Oh okay!

    • @oldenweery7510
      @oldenweery7510 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@fmnut According to my late brother, who worked for the MILW, the Milwaukee Road added air horns to its steam locos for reasons of _economy._ I don't know if it's true or not, but he said the bean-counters calculated that it cost something like 13 cents every time they blew the whistle on a steam loco. There were, and are, an awful lot of grade crossings between Milwaukee and the Twin Cities!

    • @fmnut
      @fmnut  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@oldenweery7510 yes, but the air for an air horn isn't free, it takes steam to make the air supply. I wonder if the bean counters deducted that from their "savings"?

  • @SuperFoxyRailwayProduction6702
    @SuperFoxyRailwayProduction6702 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    0:45 Where do you found the clip from that?

    • @fmnut
      @fmnut  2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Old newsreel footage given to me by a friend.

  • @tombell108
    @tombell108 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    WOW! A most excellent and informative VIDEO of 2 of my favorite READING passenger TRAIN'S!

    • @sandragasbarro4853
      @sandragasbarro4853 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      most of the train was sold and used in Canadian Railroad service

  • @thomasabramson100
    @thomasabramson100 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    I remember the Wall Street in the 1970s 4 Budd RDCs and a change at Newark

  • @davidhibbs6989
    @davidhibbs6989 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I believe the rail card are still around by not the steam engine!

    • @robertrichter6936
      @robertrichter6936 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Dave I was on that train when it was steam powered 1958 Jenkintown to New York I was just a little kid.

  • @Celluloidwatcher
    @Celluloidwatcher 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thank you for the above video. The Crusader really, truly represented the streamlined train of the Thirties and Forties. Built of shinning steel, it made its way through the Reading RR line, creating huge interest from passengers. A train to remember.

  • @LanceCampeau
    @LanceCampeau 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Damm that's a SEXY lookin' train.

  • @mmi16
    @mmi16 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Amazing that the train could be 'profitable' with just 4 revenue cars and a diner.

  • @judestefanik3145
    @judestefanik3145 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    i wish, when dieselized, they used a silver and blue one

  • @sandragasbarro4853
    @sandragasbarro4853 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    a 4 track main now is single tracked

  • @jeraldwilliams8792
    @jeraldwilliams8792 ปีที่แล้ว

    Sold to Goldstans junk yard....Second and Chestnut Street...where Penske is now located...Water & Chestnut Streets..

    • @fmnut
      @fmnut  ปีที่แล้ว

      What part of the train are you saying was sold to Goldstan?

  • @fennectherailfanfurry7511
    @fennectherailfanfurry7511 ปีที่แล้ว

    it's lucky that there is at least 1 piece left of this beautiful train. it's currently located at Strasburg PA being one of the Observation cars

  • @nonewherelistens1906
    @nonewherelistens1906 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Wow. Rare piece of film.

  • @luvisalabor
    @luvisalabor 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    What was the pretty music in the background ?

    • @fmnut
      @fmnut  5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Tir' na m ban. Track 13 from the soundtrack of the film Avalon. It's a Polish Sci Fi film.

  • @dimitrilensflareabrams2893
    @dimitrilensflareabrams2893 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    What song did you use? Also great video! She's beautiful!

    • @fmnut
      @fmnut  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      The music is from the movie "Avalon" soundtrack. Track 13 "Tir na mBan".

  • @redbarnz
    @redbarnz 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    That was SWELL!!!

  • @oldenweery7510
    @oldenweery7510 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I'm trying to remember which model railroad manufacturer sold an HO shell for the Crusader back in the '50s-'60s. Penn Line? Varney? Mantua? Maybe I'll come across an ad while using my "Paper Time Machine," otherwise known as a shelf of _Model Railroader_ bound volumes. (They take me back to the pleasant time when my eldest brother came back from the USAF after the Korean War with a virulent case of Model Railroad Fever. He became my mentor in a lot of things.)

    • @fmnut
      @fmnut  5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      It was Penn Line.

    • @oldenweery7510
      @oldenweery7510 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@fmnut Thanks, I now remember I always wondered why "Penn" Line sold a Reading loco shell, but of course, there was the connection via the Penn-Reading Seashore Lines, wasn't there? (I never made the connection at the time.) As I watched this---great video, BTW---I wondered how close this design was to the Commodore Vanderbilt. Anybody know?

    • @fmnut
      @fmnut  5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@oldenweery7510 Penn Line did offer a line of die cast PRR steam models, which was later sold to Bowser. While they were models of PRR prototypes, they were offered in various road names. They also made diesels in various road names, not just PRR. Penn Line was manufactured in Boyertown PA which was the source of the "Penn" not the railroad per se.

    • @fmnut
      @fmnut  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@oldenweery7510 Somewhat similar, but a closer match would be Burlington's AEOLUS 4-6-4, also a Budd stainless "kit" applied in the RR shops, just like the Reading did.

    • @lennyhendricks4628
      @lennyhendricks4628 ปีที่แล้ว

      Yeah, I rode either the Wall St or the Crusader when they had both devolved to RDC's. Pastry and coffee in the morning and beer and snacks on the way back. It was an interesting trip to see a USMC buddy of mine who lived in Clifton, NJ. RDG commuter Lansdale to Jenkintown, Wall St or Crusader RDC to Newark Penn, PATH from Newark to Hoboken via Exchange Place and NJ Transit to Clifton. It was the greatest number of different trains I had ever ridden in one day. I still look back on the pleasant memories.

  • @richgreene7043
    @richgreene7043 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Wonderful Video. Thanks for sharing.

  • @lennyhendricks4628
    @lennyhendricks4628 ปีที่แล้ว

    Nice Video. Thanks, Lenny

  • @luislaplume8261
    @luislaplume8261 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    It is not the same as the stainless steel clad steam locomotive from 1937. The welded steel diesel engine with the different colors do not match the train. Reading shared the terminal in Jersey City, N.J. with the Baltimore and Ohio Railroad and the Lehigh Valley Railroad until circa 1960.

    • @fmnut
      @fmnut  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      The LV never used the CNJ station in Jersey City, as they were affiliated with the PRR. Their trains originated on the PRR at Exchange Place and later Penn Station. Starting in the the 1930s, they used the connection to the PRR at Newark (Hunter) and changed from PRR power to LV at NK until the end of passenger service in 1961.

    • @luislaplume8261
      @luislaplume8261 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@fmnut Thank you for correcting me. I am more familiar with trains in NYC.

  • @ickyzachattack
    @ickyzachattack 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    You love the Crusader train! You’ve did it!

  • @jordanriley4510
    @jordanriley4510 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    THE OTHER SIDE RARITY MLP EQG

  • @grouseroadie
    @grouseroadie 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thank you.

  • @ethanmyerrailroad1185
    @ethanmyerrailroad1185 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    crusaders streamlined steam reading line locomotive December 16 sold scrapped 1956 is not i’ll be back soon 5:00

  • @scoobycarr5558
    @scoobycarr5558 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Reading did 120 mph? Really? On jointed rail? Amtrak does only 79 on most of its trains on welded rail! How pathetic our modern age is compared to the 1930s and 1940s the golden age of railroads! Ride on in majestic glory on the *Crusader* Reading Company!

    • @russellgxy2905
      @russellgxy2905 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      It's likely that it was a publicity exaggeration. As fmnut stated above, that speed wouldn't have been allowed since Reading timetables only allowed for 75 mph, and the CNJ only allowed 60 mph. I'm sure there was at least one crew that tried to get the train up to 120 mph (I mean if the Pennsy could disregard speed limits, it couldn't be too hard for the Reading lol) but I highly doubt it would've been done/attempted on a regular
      And as for Amtrak, it's certainly not as good as it could be, but it hasn't really progressed from the Glory Days of the 30's as 40's. Only a handful of passenger trains were regularly scheduled for 100 mph speeds (take the Hiawatha or some of the Pennsy's NEC trains). I think the main downgrade is (barely) reworking schedules and leaving infrastructure which makes passenger trains have to wait for freight trains.

    • @kittymuffins6484
      @kittymuffins6484 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@russellgxy2905 If the demand comes back, they'll bring it back to that condition. There has been talk the Railroad is coming back.