The part of the documentary that was so striking, was when the counsel for the family discovered that the hospital was billing for CRPS diagnosis codes, when they were saying the entire time her mom was coaching her and that it was Munchausen by proxy. That’s I think when the hospital was screwed
These people, I am referring in general to the sociopath-womans, are very 😡 vindictive. The mother and this girl 👶 arrived with things clear and the real diagnosis, and the arrogance of someone from the management, wanted to do something disgusting. They knew that mistreating the girl was going to lower her level of consciousness. And accusing MBProxy's mother is a disgrace.😢 F**c. Let's hope there is a sentence and prison ⛓️🏥⛓️for abuse after the pending. :-( trial.
I worked at 500 bed pediatric hospital and usually the parents are asked about a DAISY Award… I wouldn’t speak for all the staff, I’m sure most are good. But it is a nice distraction to nominate one of your nurses for a DAISY award and it helps you focus more on the positives of your hospital stay instead of the negative.
@@BoringTroublemaker I agree it does. Ans the fact that the nurse that got it was because she was attentive to basic human needs is foul. Usually, it’s, my nurse made me feel as at home as she possibly could, always in time with the meds, extremely well communicator with treatments and progress etc. NOT, I got to use the bathroom when I needed to. That’s beyond f**ked up!!!
People aren’t on here trying to be TH-camrs, just watchers. Why is that suspicious? And mine would look completely blank too if I privatized all my playlists.
Your right I feel the same way. I'm proud of her and her whole family for not letting them get away with this. They deserve every penny! I hope it never happened again.
As a 12 year survivor, of a dog mauling resulting in being diagnosed with CRPS, we only were introduced to ketamine treatments as an alternative to fentanyl patches and 30 pain pills a day. The ketamine trial was for the military through the medical trials .gov website. For the first time since six weeks after a large dog mangled my ulnar nerve biting through the finger bones of my dominant hand, amongst a dozen other crushing puncture wounds, the medication immediately allowed my to lift my formerly immobilized atrophied hand to shoulder. The Budapest pain scale lists CRPS as the worst pain a human can experience and it is forever to one degree or another but never a minute without pain. The average lifespan of a person diagnosed with this deteriorating nerve dysfunction is seven years. Most choose to un-alive themselves as most medical professionals ignore or downplay the severity of a person battling against their own body constantly. Wants no longer matter and needs like brushing hair or teeth, or even taking a bath are weighed on risk of a flare vs benefit. Maya is a role model and so deeply sorry for the torture and losses she and her family have had to endure. There are many highly trained doctors that specialize in outpatient ketamine ,one treat,ears and it is also highly effective for the most severe depression, suicidal ideation, etc. This medication is not an overdose risk, is used constantly in surgeries for pets and humans and far safer and superior to opiates. For those struggling with severe pain that encroaches completely on daily life, it is a possible idea that should be discussed with a trained anesthesiologist at a pain specialty clinic. Hot take- never ever go to the emergency room because of CRPS pain. The side eye and accusations of drug seeking or malingering is soul crushing. The war against pain medications for those who truly suffer with documented, tested and treated with every other step that does not involve controlled medications is the critical first step. Bless Maya and may her past be overshadowed by how fabulous her future will be.🧡 November is CRPS awareness month. If your body is sending sigmas that don’t add up to your activities and lifestyle, please nurture yourself & listen to what it’s saying. Early treatment, as in within 6 weeks with stellate ganglion blocks and physical therapy- never ice therapy, may cut off the domino effect of the nerve dysfunction spread. Bless you all!
Good job, Maya. My prayers go out to you and your family. I hope the social worker cathy Beedy and everyone involved in hurting you get what they deserve. 🙏🏻
As a person who has been diagnosed with CRPS/RSD, I completely relate to Maya’s story. When there’s a flare up, the symptoms change all the time and the pain fluctuates between just tolerable to horrific. This condition can affect the entire body - sensitivity to touch and other senses - it definitely affects the your mood - leads to irritability and depression. I too, was in a wheel-chair for roughly 3.5 months until the rigidity lessened and my strength increased. I can’t imagine being 9 yrs old and going thru this essentially alone st the hospital. PS- the suggestion of breaking her bones in her feet and resetting them is ridiculous! It’s a nerve disorder which affects the nerves and muscles not bones unless it’s years of contorted limbs. My feet turned inwards and down along with swelling and color changes - both alabaster white to purple or each would be a different color.
It's beyond horrible pain 💔 im sorry 😢 it's worse because no one understands the pain it causes. Everyone's different and lives different lives it's a horrible Disease that doctors do not understand 😢
I'm new to this case but I suffer from chronic pain doctors misdiagnose me and just constantly say it's mental or that I'm too complicated and pass me off. I've had brain surgery, spine surgery I've been diagnosed with everything from fibromyalgia, ehlers-danlos syndrome and postural tachycardia syndrome just to name a few. If she suffering from something mental? Is this like a Gypsy Rose thing
@@MOONSLIFE36 Look up symptoms of CRPS. You might find that you have lots of similarities . There is not one specific designated test to ascertain the diagnosis that’s why many physicians are skeptical and uneducated. It is a combination of many symptoms. If you live in IL contact Rush Hospital or Rehabilitation Institute of Chicago. Mayo fascial Release (MFR) was and is still extremely helpful to me. I’ve been getting txs for 13 years. Good luck to you.
Right?! You can see her motherly care and her and Dad's character shining through Maya like sunlight on a cloudy day. I'm with them and Kyle all the way.
She is an amazing young lady. For everything she has endured. The way she has carried herself to the way she is today, I’m completely amazed with her confidence, brains & beauty, the way she can articulate what she was going through as young child, I just am blown away with her being. I pray for everything she has gone through she will be able to have the future that she and her family deserves.
I have a lot of respect for Maya…specifically at her young age. The way she responds to the continuous gaslighting by the defence is truly admirable. She is absolutely sincere and the truth will always trump the lies in the end. I really hope that she wins this case. Good luck Maya…I know that feeling of not being believed purely because people haven’t experienced the hell you went through. I know what endless gaslighting feels like from an abusive ex-boyfriend and it makes you want to just rip into the person lying and gaslighting their way through life, as you are made out to be crazy or the aggressor, when you are in fact genuinely a victim behind closed doors. Stay true to you…intelligent, beautiful inside & out, and most importantly, honest. ❤🙏
I agree, they look bad. Some of the jury questions lead me to believe they are deeply disturbed by the hospital. They are digging. It’s about how they treated her like she and her mother were crazy and psychologically disturbed.
Listening to this young lady she just breaks my heart . No child should ever go through this as maya did . Maya didn’t get a chance to spend time with her mother I hope she wins and gets justice what they did to her was wrong. Stay strong maya you are an amazing soldier.
Dear Maya. She is one person that I can see so much pain in her face and in her heart. The poor soul having to go through the utter hell she did and the horrific loss of her mother😢 Stay strong Maya. Stick together as a family. Never let each other go❤️❤️❤️
maya trying to make it seem she liked most of her staff essentially making a nice message for her captors hoping if she fed their ego they would let her go just chills me to the bone. perceptive and accurate to how a lot of these professionals behave and build Stockholm like relationships with children in their care
The amount of manipulation she had to endure at 9 years old is appalling. I am a chronic pain person and i completely understand the flares and the ebs and flows. It almost broke me to lose my leg functions and go in a wheelchair at 50. Maya, you are incredible. I am so sorry you had to get strong this way.
My daughter has an auto immune disease and the sx can vary from day to day just as Maya, questioning her integrity doesn’t change that she can have good and bad days. It’s sad that her integrity is being questioned by a guy who doesn’t have the proper knowledge and education about her disease.
Absolutely, this is so difficult to watch what he’s trying to paint her as. There’s so little understanding on chronic pain disorders it’s honestly terrifying how unaware people are
@@alicegreen629 I agree with you there 100 % i don't even have the words to describe how afraid iam to ever go to a hospital these days it's beyond scary. Only once you have lost trust in the health care system it's very difficult to ever trust any hospitals ? Maya certainly is going to have a very difficult time trusting any hospitals. God bless.
Maya is absolutely precious. I pray she gets justice. I can't imagine the years of suffering and hope she wins and gets some comfort from that. Sweet soul and hope she has a wonderful life despite all the heartaches
Maya, if you ever read this…your Mom is smiling down from heaven, so PROUD of how you have grown up, so well spoken and confident, smart and beautiful! There’s a lot of people who believe in you and your family! We are all behind you!
@@thejurydoctor6097Ty Dr Obvious 🙄 One never knows how one will react or think when put in a corner with no way out for Maya or her parents. Abyssal treatment, and non-treatment, of Maya. Her mom only wanted her daughter to get the help she needed.
I think he's trying to discredit her illness/ insinuate that she did these things because her mom wasn't there but it's the opposite to me. To me, it shows she is a hard worker and determined to do her best. Thus, if she could have in the hospital, she would have.
The attorney is being so sickeningly nice while at the same time very subtly trying to insinuate that her diagnosis was all in her head and her mom. I would be enraged.
I don't have CRPS but I have chronic pain on my wrists and feet due to neuropathy everyday and it kills me... having my mum with me at age 10 helped me so much. Even today at 30 she's still there to help me and even a simple gesture makes me better... i can't imagine this poor kids pain kills me knowing they don't have their mum to hugv of get comfort from their mum. 😢
This was so hard to watch. What an incredible young woman Maya is, sitting there and speaking so eloquently about everything she's been through. Jack looks so proud - as he should! My heart hurts for this family. Beata did everything right as a mother where her child's medical problems were concerned. I hope Cathi Bedy and everyone else involved in keeping Maya away from her family live the rest of their days out the way that they deserve. They all have Beata Kowalski's blood on their hands.
Every single person complicit in the legal kidnapping of Maya Kowalski has Beata's blood on their hands. I will never forget what this family has gone through. I randomly put the documentary on a few months ago at bedtime and I ended up not being able to sleep because I was so distraught, especially as a mother. Her mother did everything she could to help her daughter get relief and the only way she could see to get her away from the people that were making her suffer was to take herself out of the equation. Some people call it selfish, but I put myself in Beata's shoes and I really feel like she just felt there was no other way to end this nightmare for her daughter. If this hospital wins this case, I lose all faith in the justice system.
@@little.heathen as a mother, the documentary was horrifying. A few years ago, I took my daughter into the ER with an issue that, having a family member who worked for CPS, made me worried that they would assume the worst. I can't help but think that something like this could have easily happened to us too, had the doctors been different or the hospital been different or we had been somewhere else. They DID try to insinuate that we were the problem... but in the end, it was proven that her condition was due to something else entirely. Beata was desperate to get her daughter out of an abusive hospital and she felt like they would prolong it so long as she was in the picture because they believed she was the problem. I think she truly felt hopeless and felt like this was the only way to save Maya. An awful, awful situation.
He doesn’t care, in his mind he has made all this ok, and probably believes John Hopkins. He is probably gonna go out with his friends and have a high old time and only worry that the hospital is happy with him. And that he gets paid.
Maya I’m so proud of you and standing up for your self. You have so many moms here that love you and know that your momma is so very proud of how strong you were. Now as a nurse for over 34 years I was appalled at the treatment you and your family received from this cooperation. That is all you were to them was an acuity number, a dollar sign. Well now they are a dollar sigh to you and to the millions of chronic pain patients across the world. The world Maya. I pray they close their doors to never hurt another family. Never ever let anyone tell you what your pain level is. Pain is and has always has been subjective. Be an advocate for children. Fight for the voiceless, we love you Maya and wish you joy and happiness the rest of your life and again never allow anyone to bully you ever again ❤
This attorney is making it seem like because she was in remission with no flare ups nobody should care about how terrible they treated her while she was in that hospital like she is a lot better now so it doesn't matter the horrible things they put this family through it's ridiculous
Exactly. And clearly doesn't understand the unpredictable nature of chronic disease. Also there's a different between treatment and a cure. He seems to be confusing the two.
Right. They are trying to frame it like they are the reason she is doing well today. Maya is a strong young woman, she accomplished what she has because SHE worked for it. The audacity of this hospital to traumatize this family and then say "See? Shes doing better because of what we did." Wild.
Unfortunately, the attorney’s for the defense have to build their case, and prove she was “lying”, or “exaggerating” her illness. They can’t side with her, even if personally they believe her. They have a job to do.
After my hip replacement I waited 2 hours til the nurses would come help me to the bathroom, and on MULTIPLE occasions, healthcare these days is 💩 all they do is tell you you're depressed or have anxiety & call you a drug seeker if you have valid pain! I hope this brings a federal law on the books because something NEEDS to change! In addition, never put your child in a pain "rehab" program and never leave a loved one alone in the hospital for days! Trust me!
🙌 I have medical trauma from medical neglect/malpractice, I have Cystic Fibrosis with rare mutations and a long list of chronic illnesses with chronic pain. I won’t see anyone in the healthcare field without at least one other person with me constantly!
Maya handled this cross examination with such dignity. Each time the attorney tries to quietly undermine her, she comes back with truthful frank descriptions. Good on her for standing her ground. (And what the heck does her giving a nurse a Daisy Award have to do with it….this evidence does not prove they treated Maya respectfully or effectively. I like that she mentions that her praise was really what standard treatment should be!) After watching more, Maya displays great patience. I hope she wins the case. 🐑🐑🇳🇿🇳🇿NZ
I agree with you. The attorney was trying to insinuate that because she liked some nurses and spoke well of them in her care journal, that that means she received the standard of care. What he fails to realize is she was 10 - and repeatedly said she was hopeful that if she praised someone, they would be her advocate. And that makes my heart hurt. This child wanted so badly to go home, she was looking for ONE person to be in her corner. And that’s where JH failed. Nobody put her first.
I feel like the defense is putting chronic illness, especially childhood chronic illness, on trial. as someone who has chronic pain from multiple chronic illnesses that were misunderstood and denied in childhood and even into my late 20s, I am so proud of Maya for standing up for herself and children with chronic illness against all those who say it's "all in your head." it's not in your head, Maya. and you are downright inspiring when you never should have had to be.
I was told it was ”Growing pains”. Today I know better, have my diagnosis x 3 and right medication. Nobody belived me when I described my pain, my restless legs or my neverending search for ”the cold spots” in bed for a few moments of relief. Hard to explain as a child… //With love from 🇸🇪
It is absolutely DISGUSTING THAT THIS HOSPITAL KEPT THIS CHILD IN THE HISPITAL AWAY FROM HER PARENTS FOR OVER 90 DAYS JUSTICE FOR MYRA SHUT THIS PLACE DOWN
The hospital did not keep her. It was ordered by the court. People have no idea what your talking about. There is a case in Denver right now where a children's hospital is being sued for not reporting their concerns about a parent and the child died. Any concerns have to be reported. IT'S THE LAW
Some of these comments are crazy. The struggle of an autoimmune disease is a constant battle. I was extremely sick as a kid and I have gotten better. I am able to workout and go on hikes. But every day is a little different. Fibromyalgia was seen as not a real disease for YEARS. And I was diagnosed at 11 when I couldn’t complete a mile in my gym classes. Now I can but some days the pain is so unbearable I can’t get out of bed.
Her responses tho, you're defending her age for the innocence part of it, but then she'll say. I was only 10 so I thought xyz... that's playing both sides, imo
My daughter was accused of making up her symptoms for years. She ended up having to leave school at 11 yo and hasn’t ever been back. She was eventually diagnosed with heart problems among other disorders that are now not responding to most medical intervention and she is under palliative care. . Suffice to say we are reporting the incompetent drs to the powers that be. I too was accused of enabling her too. Thank goodness my dr colleagues believed my daughter and myself. This breaks my heart watching this. Maya you answered these questions eloquently and being very articulate. Well done.
I was married to someone with this condition, and the pain is exactly how she says. One HOUR u can be fine, the next HOUR u can be devastated. Nothing helps it.
I have CRPS and a supportive husband. I wanted to thank you for being so supportive and speaking up for your spouse. This condition is difficult on not only the patient, but the families as well. It affects my sons because I can't run and play with them as much as they want. My 8yr old is high-needs autistic and mostly nonverbal. Emotionally he's a toddler who likes to curl up on my lap and give me super-tight hugs (they can be painful). He and I are both improving and I hope that your wife has a treatment plan that works. Much love to you both!❤❤❤
I don't have CRPS, but I do have fibromyalgia. A lot of what she's saying in terms of the flare ups are so spot on. Even with fibromyalgia, you can be in constant pain (or even excruciating pain) without having a *flare up.* I think when we refer to a flare up, we mean "the pain is a lot worse than it normally is," not "oh I have pain now but when I'm not in a flare up, I have no pain or symptoms," and I really think people need to take that into consideration when thinking about people with chronic pain. Also, I don't speak for everyone with a chronic illness obviously, but for me personally (and it seems like for Maya as well), we try to push and challenge ourselves until we can't go anymore. We *want* to have the same abilities as everyone else. We *want* to do as much as people without chronic illnesses. We *want* to live normal lives. What are we supposed to do, lay in bed for every little ache we have just to prove that we are in pain? HELL NO! It seems like Maya found a nice balance where she could do things she wanted to do until she had a flare up. That's what people like us *HAVE* to do.
I have CRPS and a miriad of other health problems. You are correct about the base pain, it's *always* there. I'm an extremely independent person and I *hate* needing so much help. My pain is mostly in my hands and some days I can't brush own hair. My husband has been super-helpful in assisting me and backing up that this pain is real. My parents were worried I was faking, but he confirmed my nearly constant agony. My grandmother has fibromyalgia and we've bonded over the similar symptoms, difficulty in getting medical help, and having people question whether or not your pain is real. Much love, from one Spoonie to another.❤❤❤
@@annjepsen1621 I have crps too (diagnosed 13 years ago) the anxiety about seeking medical help a real thing for me to and I’m now a RN (graduated 2 years ago and am currently working in a hospital) The pain is always there but like maya says it Varys day to day I hope ur condition is stable at the moment
I'm 60. I have CRPC, and have battled it for over 18 years. I had spent 10 years in a wheelchair, I fought, did every treatment you did. All! Today I take my meds 440 am, daily and then work fulltime. CRPS is up down all day. They found the perfect medicine and I'm in 0 pain, not drugged, and nerves are shut down, as long as I take meds. Dr. D. Shulman specializes in it. I broke my foot, leading to CRPS. Known as RSD also. I was electrocuting myself, freezing, overheated, bad swelling, atrophy. Every symptom. Treatments are temp. I know my body and listen to it. Best wishes to listen, do what your body needs.
This is crazy that this girl is cross examined on things transpiring at the age of ten, when she wasn't well. The hospital attorney is such a sh*t. I'm so glad this girl was allowed to speak so freely. Sometimes people are only allowed yes or no answers.
It's so hard to explain chronic pain to others that don't understand it/ haven't lived it. When you've had terrible pain day in and day out for months or years on end, you're going to report it at the doctor's appointment, even if you're having a relatively pain-free day. Years later, it would be impossible to recall what you were feeling on a particular day many years ago. But, that's what she's having to defend herself against. Also, CRPS isn't that obscure. Someone at JH would have certainly been aware of it's existence and that ketamine is often very effective in its treatment. A problematic social worker and know-it-all doctors ruined this girls life. There is still so much to be learned about the human body. No one knows it all. Listen to patients. *Just an FYI for the people that are 💩 on the "3rd world doctor" (their words, not mine) from Mexico. K is also now being used in the US to treat opioid tolerance, depression and other pain hypersensitivity syndromes like fibromyalgia.*
Like any short term treatment you need to be determined to put the work in to overcome your pain/addiction and have people around you that can motivate you. Big shame her family didn't seem to do anything other than give her more drugs at that age.
@@pieface8032 They tried lots of things! You clearly don't know anything about this condition and didn't listen to her testimony. I have CRPS and the first step is *pain control!* There's also inflammation, muscle weakness and spasms, they require medication. Without it, exteme pain can give you a stroke. It's given me hypertension. Not all drugs are bad, something tells me you get antibiotics when you get an infection. Ketamine treatments are the most effective (and expensive) and give much longer lasting results so they don't need to constantly give her things like opiods. It's beyond frustrating to see comments like this. You watch the video for ten minutes and then give your expert opinion. It's harmful to those of us living with this condition.
I believe you Maya, I believe every word and every fluctuation in pain. Just because some people don't have the capacity to understand it, it doesn't mean it's not true. I'm so sorry this happened to you and your family. its absolutely horrendous. xxx
What a bright, pleasant, kind intelligent young woman. I'm so sorry she had to endure such atrocities. The family will never be the same. I hate this for them and other families that have gone through similar at the hands of John's Hopkins team. The Kowalski family will never be the same but I pray the justice they received will serve as some level of comfort.
This broke my heart I’m so sorry they had to go through this, I’m glad they won the lawsuit but no amount of money will bring her mom back or erase all the pain they endured 😢
Every single person who’s disgusted by the actions of the hospital/dcf/social workers/etc. there is one thing we can all do to try to prevent this from happening again; do not vote for anyone who will expand government authority into your family’s home, your medical decisions, & especially into your children’s lives. We have to stop looking to ‘authority’ to solve community problems & get back to people dealing with problems in their neighborhoods & communities.
Uuuuummm you are speaking to a very small group of people! A majority of Americans have ZERO insurance or are greatly underinsured. We aren't worried about "the man" in our lives we are just worried about staying healthy or unhurt in order to simply stay ALIVE! This is corporate bureaucracy and greed! NO POOR CHILD/FAMILY WITHOUT INSURANCE WOULD HAVE HAD THIS EXPERIENCE!! No insurance would have had a poor family sent home with Benadryl to knock the child out. The USA is the wealthiest country yet our citizens die or go bankrupt regularly because we cannot afford healthcare! BTW: the minute Roe v Wade was overturned "the government" entered your bed and your Doctors office!!!
I agree there was overreach here but there needs to be these systems, (though they need massive overhauling). We are all just as outraged when children suffer or die because no one stepped in enough. If kids are not removed or when kids are returned to abusers or didn't situation didn't rise to a level where a child could be removed... we are outraged then too. We say that the system doesn't do enough to protect kids. It can be very difficult to predict what will happen. The reason Maya was removed from parental care is that this huge powerful hospital had so much influence on the system. It happens way more than we hear about. 😢
@@tphillips6952poor children have insurance, it's the middle class that suffer, the people that make too much money to get medicaid but can barely afford to pay their bills! The poor kids get medicaid and foodstamps!
57:20 i find this constant coughing as maya talks about religion is very strange, evrytime she mentions something about her faith, that was intended but for whst reason i dont know ! If your having a coughing fit excuse yourself, to me this seemed deliberate.
Not for any reason...she had a very difficult job that few doctors wanted to serve the public to do. She saved thousands of children from further suffering and death.
That social worker too. And some of those drs that said the horrible things they did when they found out her mother killed herself. That woman and her sidekick the social worker have not only done this to her but they did it to many many other mothers and fathers, one was an American idol singer and had had her children taken away. One was a newborn and the same people were involved.
@@foxibot You have no idea what the real facts are. Chapter 39 in Florida prevents the disclosure of the details of what the neglect or abuse was that the parents committed. The law makes it confidential. The parents can get on social media and spin their fantasy while no lawyer or DCF person associated with the case can speak the truth because THEY are bound by confidentiality.
No histrionics, theatrical or OTT emotional distress but a remarkably mature calm young lady who has to learn this to regulate, learn coping strategies to survive a medical system that had no intention of taking care of her. Remarkable self awareness and self reflection with authenticity and maturity. Congratulations young lady.
The defence lawyer seems to forget how young she was when all this was happening. Dates, names etc. I’m amazed she can remember what she does! He also doesn’t get her diagnosis at all!
Maya is the epitome of a polished, poised , articulate, smart young woman with super power strength. My heart weeps watching this, and I send prayers to you and your family. Your mom is in your courage and force in moving forward. She's super proud of you and your family. God speed❤.
Yep really sad to have this used to try and sow some doubt in the jury ...But like she said it is in the nomination right there...come as fast as possible...should be the norm of care.
C'est une jeune femme digne et courageuse après toutes les épreuves qu'on lui a infligé. Je pense à sa maman et j'ai pleuré en voyant son histoire sur Netflix. Ce sont des monstres ces gens qui ont infligé tout ça à cette famille. Je prie pour vous maya , votre frère et votre papa et prières pour votre maman beata.🙏
The lawyer for the hospital is asking 'was this nurse nice to you' etc. What on earth is the purpose of this type of questions. I bet he would love his children to be treated in hospital just like Maya!!
I'm not really tactical BUT I would guess he was asking base questions on how she actually really like the staff, how nice they were and possibly re-directed the attention from the suit and just target her "recollection" so it would seem flimsy, influenced. I don't see how since she was literally kept under surveillance, has no privacy, and is not allowed to even discuss her care WITH her parents on the phone? She was 9!!! Like this blows my mind how they could be this heartless. This entire hospital is negligent, and I'll never step foot in one voluntarily.
Her story is incredibly sad and inspiring. Her mother in a way helped her get out of that insanity she was in. Her mother did everything she could just like she told her she would. She had a great mother on earth and now in heaven. May you reunite one day to embrace each other forever.
She really did go and make the ultimate sacrifice just so she could get her out of that hell hole. I’m so glad they took that hospital to the cleaners.
I imagine the hospital tried to settle this case for a large dollar amount, which the family turned down. Good for them (the family). I hope they get a record breaking judgment!!!!
by putting themselves through this, they may also set a very important precedent against the brutal "hospitals" and help others. We don't yet have a legal precedent to crush them bc people always take settlements. this family is heroic and WHEN they win- i really think they will help other people
@@GiselleKlara This is a unique set of circumstances that will not affect how hospital risk management and hospital boards make decisions. This was far from the average "amputation of the wrong limb" or "administration of the wrong drug." A runaway verdict, if it survives appeal, will not impact the way hospitals provide care and run their business because this is not a common set of facts.
Clearly traumized/imprinted by people at John Hopkins Children Hospital who were supposed to help her not harm her. Breaking her legs! Of my goodness. It was a blessing her mom was a nurse and could advocate for her nine yr old daughter.
Sad that that put Maya on trial to blame her, and not the hospitals poor decisions! The hospital should drop their appeal and just get their checkbook out!
I feel this testimony from Maya reflects that her mother wasn’t making her child sick in any way whatsoever. How,the heck did this hospital come to that conclusion looking at her medical records? The MP syndrome has absolutely no evidence of something like that. This case makes me so angry. When you look at cases where MP syndrome is happening it looks nothing like this. Why this hospital didn’t settle is beyond belief.
Honestly, the initial diagnosis wasn't unreasonable.. but then I think they changed their diagnosis, and at that point they should have released her back to her family. Mbyproxy is dangerous and Dr's should be wary of mothers who take their children to many different providers and are belligerent and forceful. The hospital made mistakes, for sure, but I don't blame them for initial assessment
@@melanieb2132they had documented physician diagnosis so no, it wasn’t in her head. If it were just the mother, maybe. But she had seen 2 specialists with a diagnosis 😮 And initial thoughts or no, 3 months is insane to carry that on.
This incredible girl has been devastatingly effective. The family should own this so-called hospital when this trial is over. Being on the defense team must be a certain level of hell. 😓😭
Chronic pain syndrome. Fibromyalgia. Myofacial Pain Syndrome. Chemical sensitivity which includeds air fragrance, trying to go into a Mall can cause anxiety knowing the amount of perfume and the smells of the clothes as well as what people have used themselves, better to not go. Not going anywhere , cleaning chemicals, dry cleaners, gasoline, fumes from cars, food sensitive, the body feels itis getting attacked and can cause extreme pain and exhaustion.
there are more sadistic nurses out there than we like to think. My ex was recovering from a surgery and was TORTURED by his nurse (with the breathing tube), horrible horrible horrible stuff. Not sure how can prevent.
Nursing, especially RNs, is highly skilled work and until we (society) start valuing the role as a highly skilled job, the pool of applicants will continue to be small and the shitty applicants will slip under the radar because no one is treating it like it's an important job. Education being more accessible/affordable would also help so everyone can have the option to get a full nursing degree RN rather than lower-tiered certifications. Then you have a more educated a populous. Plus idk if you've seen those ads over the last two decades pushing people who don't know what they want to do with their lives (no shame there) to get a basic nursing degree as a career. Like those ads about learning coding or computer science or tradeswork as career options? They have been doing that for nursing too. So these degree-certification companies profit off of drawing in people who just see it as a job. Versus historically people go into medicine because they're scientifically-inclined and they're caring. I feel like a lot of this applies to teachers, too. If we all treated the job as important, we'd have a bigger and better pool of applicants who take their job very seriously and are drawn for the right reasons. And institutions that hire for the right reasons. If any of that makes sense. Having a hard time describing it
I'm so sorry about your ex's experience. There's nothing like mistreatment from medical staff, it's just awful. Talking about truly sadistic people, like deliberately harming people, I think it also goes back to giving so little attention to such an important role. I can certainly see a sadistic person being drawn to a role like this because they know no one gives nurses any attention. Using the disregard people have for the nursing profession TO THEIR OWN BENEFIT. Attracted to being in that power over the patient while in an "invisible" role...
She is so poised but she looks really sick, I get pale like that when I’m really sick. Her face is like chalk. There’s no color in it. I hope she’s ok. And she can win this case.
@@Kikiconsilience yeah I can always tell in pictures when I was deathly ill, I’m always deathly laid and gaunt. I can look at this picture of me and say oh yeah my eyes done look normal like they look cloudy and weird, and so I always know when I see old pictures I can say oh yeah that’s when I was nearly dead and sick on a vacation but trying not to look it! I’m sending my love to you. We females have to stick together against the medical terrorism and prejudice we endure, I am a victim of being ignored and my cancer grew and grew and took my thyroid and it killed my laryngeal nerve and vocal cord and they took my lymph nodes, parathyroids and ended up in ICU twice and caused me to have a heart attack and stroke due to their medical negligence. So I try to be a friend and support to females that are gaslight and then end up with serious health issues before because of negligence and misdiagnoses and medical neglect. That’s why I can relate to Maya because of the medical abuse and gaslighting.
There was testimony that she was denied her rosary, prayer book ,access to her priest and congregation, and communion from the hospital. The priest was here and I believe the priest lol.
Family gives me bad vibes. Bots all over streaming channels. Read documents ppl. This lil girl did not need the amount of medication that was shopped for her
God bless her. I just watched the documentary and I don’t know how they have stayed so classy. So strong and amazing. I’d have burned that whole county down. Cathi, Sally, the judges all should be in prison. And this happens all over the country everyday. Wake up people. But this is about Maya and Kyle. Your mother is sooooo proud. And soooo strong. She sacrificed her life for you. She was not weak. She fought with everything for you and she still is watching over you. I 100% believe that. ❤️🙏🏼❤️🙏🏼❤️
It’s almost like if this lawyer keeps repeating “what did you like about this nurse”? She finally say oh yea I liked all these nurses. She definitely did what a kid would do if she wants to get out of there. I would name all the nurses if I thought I could leave the hospital.
Thats so true! One day you feel fine and those days are so rare that you literally celebrate those days when you have them and you can wake up the next day and pay dearly for feeling good the day before. It's a terrible way to live.
This defense lawyer obviously doesnt understand cronic pain. Its always there. Some days are good and really bad. You can walk miles, cardio and weights. You may pay for it later and may not. So many factors come into play. Grrr
I cant understaand why and whats the purpose of grilling this poor girl. She tragicly lost her mother and hospital treated them terribly. I dont understand why the court is treating her even worst despite of what they inow happen to her
So you think they should just hand over $200 million dollars without a trial? Maya was being deceptive on the witness stand today. Her credibility is strained on many factual issues. Her lawyer kept trying to testify for her and was warned by the judge to stop doing that. The sympathy for Maya was milked by her mother for her own purposes and harmed her daughter and son very much. The hospital is required by law to report child abuse even in cases where the child is going along with it.
@@kevinhornbucklethese women surround themselves with simps that don’t question them at all. They’re not used to being challenged or examined; just obeyed.
Her, her Father and Brother chose to bring this lawsuit rather than thanking the hospital for saving her life and going on to live a peaceful life. Johns Hopkins hospital have the right to defend themselves. This is a classic case of “no good deed goes unpunished “.
The defense lawyer was all acting nice and kind to her but, in reality, was all trying to find an opening in her testimony to go in for the kill. His act-up voice just makes me sick!!!
MORE HERE: www.courttv.com/news/kowalski-v-johns-hopkins-take-care-of-maya-trial/?
The part of the documentary that was so striking, was when the counsel for the family discovered that the hospital was billing for CRPS diagnosis codes, when they were saying the entire time her mom was coaching her and that it was Munchausen by proxy. That’s I think when the hospital was screwed
Wow thats fuckin insane!
Wow how classic medical thieves can always be. That is crazy.
Agreed that was beyond insane
Why can I only find the documentary talking about it, but I can't find the source?
These people, I am referring in general to the sociopath-womans, are very 😡 vindictive. The mother and this girl 👶 arrived with things clear and the real diagnosis, and the arrogance of someone from the management, wanted to do something disgusting. They knew that mistreating the girl was going to lower her level of consciousness. And accusing MBProxy's mother is a disgrace.😢 F**c. Let's hope there is a sentence and prison ⛓️🏥⛓️for abuse after the pending. :-( trial.
The fact that they would ask this child that they essentially kidnapped to nominate one of her nurses for a Daisy Award is f***ing appalling
I worked at 500 bed pediatric hospital and usually the parents are asked about a DAISY Award… I wouldn’t speak for all the staff, I’m sure most are good. But it is a nice distraction to nominate one of your nurses for a DAISY award and it helps you focus more on the positives of your hospital stay instead of the negative.
@@Aryalanae maybe so for any other patient but in this situation it feels extremely gross
@@BoringTroublemaker I agree it does. Ans the fact that the nurse that got it was because she was attentive to basic human needs is foul. Usually, it’s, my nurse made me feel as at home as she possibly could, always in time with the meds, extremely well communicator with treatments and progress etc. NOT, I got to use the bathroom when I needed to. That’s beyond f**ked up!!!
@@BoringTroublemaker sorry for my crappy grammar. I worked 50 hours this week straight and I just got home. My brain is 50% running lol.
@@Aryalanae yeah that really sums it up so well
She’s not even my daughter but I’m so proud of her. She is doing a great job up there
And you have no content either. Suspicious?
@@theresecosgrove930how is this comment suspicious?
People aren’t on here trying to be TH-camrs, just watchers. Why is that suspicious? And mine would look completely blank too if I privatized all my playlists.
@@theresecosgrove930 YOUR RIGHT! THAT'S WHAT HAPPENS WHEN EMOTIONS TAKE OVER. "SHE'S NOT HER DAUGHTER BUT SO PROUD OF HER: PURE EMOTION!
Your right I feel the same way. I'm proud of her and her whole family for not letting them get away with this. They deserve every penny! I hope it never happened again.
When she said she made bracelets for her mom I started crying. My daughter is 10 and that’s exactly something she would do.
My daughter is 6 and I wear it even when I shower 😊
This girl is amazing her composure and maturity in the courtroom is outstanding!! Kudos Maya stay strong girl stand your ground!💪🏻💕
She has been through the mill .
What a phenomenal young lady. She is doing amazing given all she has suffered. Praying for healing and justice 🙏 🙏
As a 12 year survivor, of a dog mauling resulting in being diagnosed with CRPS, we only were introduced to ketamine treatments as an alternative to fentanyl patches and 30 pain pills a day. The ketamine trial was for the military through the medical trials .gov website. For the first time since six weeks after a large dog mangled my ulnar nerve biting through the finger bones of my dominant hand, amongst a dozen other crushing puncture wounds, the medication immediately allowed my to lift my formerly immobilized atrophied hand to shoulder.
The Budapest pain scale lists CRPS as the worst pain a human can experience and it is forever to one degree or another but never a minute without pain.
The average lifespan of a person diagnosed with this deteriorating nerve dysfunction is seven years. Most choose to un-alive themselves as most medical professionals ignore or downplay the severity of a person battling against their own body constantly. Wants no longer matter and needs like brushing hair or teeth, or even taking a bath are weighed on risk of a flare vs benefit.
Maya is a role model and so deeply sorry for the torture and losses she and her family have had to endure.
There are many highly trained doctors that specialize in outpatient ketamine ,one treat,ears and it is also highly effective for the most severe depression, suicidal ideation, etc. This medication is not an overdose risk, is used constantly in surgeries for pets and humans and far safer and superior to opiates.
For those struggling with severe pain that encroaches completely on daily life, it is a possible idea that should be discussed with a trained anesthesiologist at a pain specialty clinic.
Hot take- never ever go to the emergency room because of CRPS pain. The side eye and accusations of drug seeking or malingering is soul crushing. The war against pain medications for those who truly suffer with documented, tested and treated with every other step that does not involve controlled medications is the critical first step.
Bless Maya and may her past be overshadowed by how fabulous her future will be.🧡 November is CRPS awareness month. If your body is sending sigmas that don’t add up to your activities and lifestyle, please nurture yourself & listen to what it’s saying. Early treatment, as in within 6 weeks with stellate ganglion blocks and physical therapy- never ice therapy, may cut off the domino effect of the nerve dysfunction spread.
Bless you all!
JUSTICE for this Precious Girl
Good job, Maya. My prayers go out to you and your family. I hope the social worker cathy Beedy and everyone involved in hurting you get what they deserve. 🙏🏻
Well that Dr Bitxh will get away with it won’t she? Hasn’t she resigned from her position now?
This isn't a criminal trial.
Amen
@@francinejones2524None of these individuals has lost their jobs 😢
More like Kathy Bates!!!
As a person who has been diagnosed with CRPS/RSD, I completely relate to Maya’s story. When there’s a flare up, the symptoms change all the time and the pain fluctuates between just tolerable to horrific. This condition can affect the entire body - sensitivity to touch and other senses - it definitely affects the your mood - leads to irritability and depression. I too, was in a wheel-chair for roughly 3.5 months until the rigidity lessened and my strength increased. I can’t imagine being 9 yrs old and going thru this essentially alone st the hospital. PS- the suggestion of breaking her bones in her feet and resetting them is ridiculous! It’s a nerve disorder which affects the nerves and muscles not bones unless it’s years of contorted limbs. My feet turned inwards and down along with swelling and color changes - both alabaster white to purple or each would be a different color.
I’m so sorry you suffer from this. I suffer from chronic pain but not to this extent. Have you tried ketamine? Just curious.
It's beyond horrible pain 💔 im sorry 😢 it's worse because no one understands the pain it causes. Everyone's different and lives different lives it's a horrible Disease that doctors do not understand 😢
I'm new to this case but I suffer from chronic pain doctors misdiagnose me and just constantly say it's mental or that I'm too complicated and pass me off. I've had brain surgery, spine surgery I've been diagnosed with everything from fibromyalgia, ehlers-danlos syndrome and postural tachycardia syndrome just to name a few. If she suffering from something mental? Is this like a Gypsy Rose thing
@@MOONSLIFE36 Look up symptoms of CRPS. You might find that you have lots of similarities . There is not one specific designated test to ascertain the diagnosis that’s why many physicians are skeptical and uneducated. It is a combination of many symptoms. If you live in IL contact Rush Hospital or Rehabilitation Institute of Chicago.
Mayo fascial Release (MFR) was and is still extremely helpful to me. I’ve been getting txs for 13 years.
Good luck to you.
I cannot imagine how depressing it is to have your life impacted with this
Beata must be so proud of her little girl! What an amazing job she did!
Right?! You can see her motherly care and her and Dad's character shining through Maya like sunlight on a cloudy day. I'm with them and Kyle all the way.
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Amen ❤
This… ❤
Maya’s authenticity shines through. I wish her and her strong loving family so much healing and happiness for the future. 🙏🏻
She is an amazing young lady. For everything she has endured. The way she has carried herself to the way she is today, I’m completely amazed with her confidence, brains & beauty, the way she can articulate what she was going through as young child, I just am blown away with her being.
I pray for everything she has gone through she will be able to have the future that she and her family deserves.
Exactly
SAME.
My thoughts exactly ❤
Does anyone know why her mother was denied supervised visitations ?
She is so articulate. Her sadness is palpable too. Her eyes totally reflect sadness and emotional pain. It’s heartbreaking.
I have a lot of respect for Maya…specifically at her young age. The way she responds to the continuous gaslighting by the defence is truly admirable. She is absolutely sincere and the truth will always trump the lies in the end. I really hope that she wins this case.
Good luck Maya…I know that feeling of not being believed purely because people haven’t experienced the hell you went through. I know what endless gaslighting feels like from an abusive ex-boyfriend and it makes you want to just rip into the person lying and gaslighting their way through life, as you are made out to be crazy or the aggressor, when you are in fact genuinely a victim behind closed doors. Stay true to you…intelligent, beautiful inside & out, and most importantly, honest. ❤🙏
My heart breaks for Maya. If the hospital thought that this helped them, it only made them look SO much worse.
I agree, they look bad. Some of the jury questions lead me to believe they are deeply disturbed by the hospital. They are digging. It’s about how they treated her like she and her mother were crazy and psychologically disturbed.
Listening to this young lady she just breaks my heart . No child should ever go through this as maya did . Maya didn’t get a chance to spend time with her mother I hope she wins and gets justice what they did to her was wrong. Stay strong maya you are an amazing soldier.
Dear Maya. She is one person that I can see so much pain in her face and in her heart. The poor soul having to go through the utter hell she did and the horrific loss of her mother😢 Stay strong Maya. Stick together as a family. Never let each other go❤️❤️❤️
maya trying to make it seem she liked most of her staff essentially making a nice message for her captors hoping if she fed their ego they would let her go just chills me to the bone. perceptive and accurate to how a lot of these professionals behave and build Stockholm like relationships with children in their care
The amount of manipulation she had to endure at 9 years old is appalling. I am a chronic pain person and i completely understand the flares and the ebs and flows. It almost broke me to lose my leg functions and go in a wheelchair at 50. Maya, you are incredible. I am so sorry you had to get strong this way.
My daughter has an auto immune disease and the sx can vary from day to day just as Maya, questioning her integrity doesn’t change that she can have good and bad days. It’s sad that her integrity is being questioned by a guy who doesn’t have the proper knowledge and education about her disease.
Amen to that it's very sad
Same for my daughter with chronic pain and mobility struggles. This line of questioning is enraging!
I came to the comments to see if anybody else feels Maya is being treated like she did something wrong?
Absolutely, this is so difficult to watch what he’s trying to paint her as. There’s so little understanding on chronic pain disorders it’s honestly terrifying how unaware people are
@@alicegreen629 I agree with you there 100 % i don't even have the words to describe how afraid iam to ever go to a hospital these days it's beyond scary. Only once you have lost trust in the health care system it's very difficult to ever trust any hospitals ? Maya certainly is going to have a very difficult time trusting any hospitals. God bless.
Maya is absolutely precious. I pray she gets justice. I can't imagine the years of suffering and hope she wins and gets some comfort from that. Sweet soul and hope she has a wonderful life despite all the heartaches
Maya, if you ever read this…your Mom is smiling down from heaven, so PROUD of how you have grown up, so well spoken and confident, smart and beautiful! There’s a lot of people who believe in you and your family! We are all behind you!
Him listing all the things that Maya did in middle school, breaks my heart Beata wasn’t there for it.
Ultimately by her own choice and be angry with whoever but Beata’s choice was her own to make and hers alone in the end😢
@@thejurydoctor6097Ty Dr Obvious 🙄
One never knows how one will react or think when put in a corner with no way out for Maya or her parents. Abyssal treatment, and non-treatment, of Maya. Her mom only wanted her daughter to get the help she needed.
I think he's trying to discredit her illness/ insinuate that she did these things because her mom wasn't there but it's the opposite to me. To me, it shows she is a hard worker and determined to do her best. Thus, if she could have in the hospital, she would have.
@@SBVixen yes!
The attorney is being so sickeningly nice while at the same time very subtly trying to insinuate that her diagnosis was all in her head and her mom. I would be enraged.
She hammered his every attempt. Warrior!!
His voice sounds like any man who is losing an argument with his wife. That sad, mopey, disgraced, deep, scratchy voice. I know it well!
Well somehow they got her off Ketamine and shes doing great!
He gives slime a whole new name. 🤢
@@hanselbermudez7604 they didn’t know that then, the only thing they knew it worked was ketamine
Well done beautiful lady. What a courageous young lady. You are in my prayers Maya . You have my support and love UK
I don't have CRPS but I have chronic pain on my wrists and feet due to neuropathy everyday and it kills me... having my mum with me at age 10 helped me so much. Even today at 30 she's still there to help me and even a simple gesture makes me better... i can't imagine this poor kids pain kills me knowing they don't have their mum to hugv of get comfort from their mum. 😢
This was so hard to watch. What an incredible young woman Maya is, sitting there and speaking so eloquently about everything she's been through. Jack looks so proud - as he should! My heart hurts for this family. Beata did everything right as a mother where her child's medical problems were concerned.
I hope Cathi Bedy and everyone else involved in keeping Maya away from her family live the rest of their days out the way that they deserve. They all have Beata Kowalski's blood on their hands.
Every single person complicit in the legal kidnapping of Maya Kowalski has Beata's blood on their hands. I will never forget what this family has gone through. I randomly put the documentary on a few months ago at bedtime and I ended up not being able to sleep because I was so distraught, especially as a mother.
Her mother did everything she could to help her daughter get relief and the only way she could see to get her away from the people that were making her suffer was to take herself out of the equation.
Some people call it selfish, but I put myself in Beata's shoes and I really feel like she just felt there was no other way to end this nightmare for her daughter.
If this hospital wins this case, I lose all faith in the justice system.
@@little.heathen as a mother, the documentary was horrifying. A few years ago, I took my daughter into the ER with an issue that, having a family member who worked for CPS, made me worried that they would assume the worst. I can't help but think that something like this could have easily happened to us too, had the doctors been different or the hospital been different or we had been somewhere else. They DID try to insinuate that we were the problem... but in the end, it was proven that her condition was due to something else entirely.
Beata was desperate to get her daughter out of an abusive hospital and she felt like they would prolong it so long as she was in the picture because they believed she was the problem. I think she truly felt hopeless and felt like this was the only way to save Maya.
An awful, awful situation.
Someone should go to jail for Beata's death.
I think that Beata with her forthrightness antagonised the staff . She was ordering them to give doses which are not allowed.
Imagine being a lawyer and your job is to prove a ten year old is a liar.
He doesn’t care, in his mind he has made all this ok, and probably believes John Hopkins. He is probably gonna go out with his friends and have a high old time and only worry that the hospital is happy with him. And that he gets paid.
He only looks like an idiot! Trying to beat down a sweet girls who was TEN and was ripped from her mother
The attorney is a ghoul
@@foxibotHe has a job to do unfortunately, so despite what he might himself believe personally, he has to prove the defense’s case.
Maya I’m so proud of you and standing up for your self. You have so many moms here that love you and know that your momma is so very proud of how strong you were. Now as a nurse for over 34 years I was appalled at the treatment you and your family received from this cooperation. That is all you were to them was an acuity number, a dollar sign. Well now they are a dollar sigh to you and to the millions of chronic pain patients across the world. The world Maya. I pray they close their doors to never hurt another family. Never ever let anyone tell you what your pain level is. Pain is and has always has been subjective. Be an advocate for children. Fight for the voiceless, we love you Maya and wish you joy and happiness the rest of your life and again never allow anyone to bully you ever again ❤
I am a picu nurse. Healthcare staff are super quick to judge families.
And gossip. Non stop disgusting gossip
@@Kikiconsilience really/? unbelievable
This attorney is making it seem like because she was in remission with no flare ups nobody should care about how terrible they treated her while she was in that hospital like she is a lot better now so it doesn't matter the horrible things they put this family through it's ridiculous
Exactly. And clearly doesn't understand the unpredictable nature of chronic disease. Also there's a different between treatment and a cure. He seems to be confusing the two.
Right. They are trying to frame it like they are the reason she is doing well today. Maya is a strong young woman, she accomplished what she has because SHE worked for it. The audacity of this hospital to traumatize this family and then say "See? Shes doing better because of what we did." Wild.
She has incredible strength. Most people, including many health professionals, are totally clueless when it comes to crippling intensive chronic pain😢
Its impossible to explain to someone who doesn't suffer chronic pain.
Agree so much to this comment ❤
Even for people that suffer from chronic pain could never understand, cause this pain is on a whole nother level!🔥☄
Amen. The gaslighting and dismissal by the system and MDs is tragic. The lack of critical thinking is astounding...
Agreed!
Unfortunately, the attorney’s for the defense have to build their case, and prove she was “lying”, or “exaggerating” her illness. They can’t side with her, even if personally they believe her. They have a job to do.
The level of decorum and knowledge is young lady showed is absolutely incredible and I hope she gets every dime she deserves!
She's to be a great actress one day,
@@kellyhammond9219better than being a bottom feeding swamp dweller with evil intent I'd say .do some personal growing, what a vile opinion
After my hip replacement I waited 2 hours til the nurses would come help me to the bathroom, and on MULTIPLE occasions, healthcare these days is 💩 all they do is tell you you're depressed or have anxiety & call you a drug seeker if you have valid pain! I hope this brings a federal law on the books because something NEEDS to change! In addition, never put your child in a pain "rehab" program and never leave a loved one alone in the hospital for days! Trust me!
🙌 I have medical trauma from medical neglect/malpractice, I have Cystic Fibrosis with rare mutations and a long list of chronic illnesses with chronic pain. I won’t see anyone in the healthcare field without at least one other person with me constantly!
@@LaPlaztiqueYou're smart. It's always good to have someone with you who can advocate for you.
Maya you have strength and courage I’m so proud of you just know you have a fan
Maya handled this cross examination with such dignity. Each time the attorney tries to quietly undermine her, she comes back with truthful frank descriptions. Good on her for standing her ground. (And what the heck does her giving a nurse a Daisy Award have to do with it….this evidence does not prove they treated Maya respectfully or effectively. I like that she mentions that her praise was really what standard treatment should be!) After watching more, Maya displays great patience.
I hope she wins the case. 🐑🐑🇳🇿🇳🇿NZ
I agree with you. The attorney was trying to insinuate that because she liked some nurses and spoke well of them in her care journal, that that means she received the standard of care. What he fails to realize is she was 10 - and repeatedly said she was hopeful that if she praised someone, they would be her advocate. And that makes my heart hurt. This child wanted so badly to go home, she was looking for ONE person to be in her corner. And that’s where JH failed. Nobody put her first.
I feel like the defense is putting chronic illness, especially childhood chronic illness, on trial.
as someone who has chronic pain from multiple chronic illnesses that were misunderstood and denied in childhood and even into my late 20s, I am so proud of Maya for standing up for herself and children with chronic illness against all those who say it's "all in your head."
it's not in your head, Maya. and you are downright inspiring when you never should have had to be.
I was told it was ”Growing pains”. Today I know better, have my diagnosis x 3 and right medication. Nobody belived me when I described my pain, my restless legs or my neverending search for ”the cold spots” in bed for a few moments of relief.
Hard to explain as a child… //With love from 🇸🇪
@@irmelinalkhede1504 I was told the same thing! I hope you are now receiving everything you need. all my love to sverige 💙
It is absolutely DISGUSTING THAT THIS HOSPITAL KEPT THIS CHILD IN THE HISPITAL AWAY FROM HER PARENTS FOR OVER 90 DAYS JUSTICE FOR MYRA SHUT THIS PLACE DOWN
And she was in tremendous amounts of pain in the meantime :(
The hospital did not keep her. It was ordered by the court. People have no idea what your talking about. There is a case in Denver right now where a children's hospital is being sued for not reporting their concerns about a parent and the child died. Any concerns have to be reported. IT'S THE LAW
@@janetcantrell9727
But the court only ordered it because of the hospitals faulty medical opinion
Howis it faulty if shes doing just fine now off Ketamine?@@moriordan85
@janetcantrell9727 you are wrong, if it wasn't for those evil hospital workers , the state would not have been involved.
This poor girl. My heart aches for her entire family. Ripping families apart is disgraceful.
Some of these comments are crazy. The struggle of an autoimmune disease is a constant battle. I was extremely sick as a kid and I have gotten better. I am able to workout and go on hikes. But every day is a little different. Fibromyalgia was seen as not a real disease for YEARS. And I was diagnosed at 11 when I couldn’t complete a mile in my gym classes. Now I can but some days the pain is so unbearable I can’t get out of bed.
Yes it is…I have it too and I agree 💯 with you.
Agree
Is he implying a child that 9 10 years old is making this stuff up? What a pos
Her responses tho, you're defending her age for the innocence part of it, but then she'll say. I was only 10 so I thought xyz... that's playing both sides, imo
She is not making it up. She is simply repeating what her mom and family have implanted in her. She was told how to feel.
@@carlosmartins99 Spot on! That's exactly how I feel...
She was told to be in pain? You are delusional.
His job is to point out inconsistencies.
My daughter was accused of making up her symptoms for years. She ended up having to leave school at 11 yo and hasn’t ever been back. She was eventually diagnosed with heart problems among other disorders that are now not responding to most medical intervention and she is under palliative care. . Suffice to say we are reporting the incompetent drs to the powers that be. I too was accused of enabling her too. Thank goodness my dr colleagues believed my daughter and myself. This breaks my heart watching this. Maya you answered these questions eloquently and being very articulate. Well done.
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I was married to someone with this condition, and the pain is exactly how she says. One HOUR u can be fine, the next HOUR u can be devastated. Nothing helps it.
I have CRPS and a supportive husband. I wanted to thank you for being so supportive and speaking up for your spouse. This condition is difficult on not only the patient, but the families as well. It affects my sons because I can't run and play with them as much as they want. My 8yr old is high-needs autistic and mostly nonverbal. Emotionally he's a toddler who likes to curl up on my lap and give me super-tight hugs (they can be painful). He and I are both improving and I hope that your wife has a treatment plan that works. Much love to you both!❤❤❤
I don't have CRPS, but I do have fibromyalgia. A lot of what she's saying in terms of the flare ups are so spot on. Even with fibromyalgia, you can be in constant pain (or even excruciating pain) without having a *flare up.* I think when we refer to a flare up, we mean "the pain is a lot worse than it normally is," not "oh I have pain now but when I'm not in a flare up, I have no pain or symptoms," and I really think people need to take that into consideration when thinking about people with chronic pain.
Also, I don't speak for everyone with a chronic illness obviously, but for me personally (and it seems like for Maya as well), we try to push and challenge ourselves until we can't go anymore. We *want* to have the same abilities as everyone else. We *want* to do as much as people without chronic illnesses. We *want* to live normal lives. What are we supposed to do, lay in bed for every little ache we have just to prove that we are in pain? HELL NO! It seems like Maya found a nice balance where she could do things she wanted to do until she had a flare up. That's what people like us *HAVE* to do.
Preach!
My friend has fibromyalgia & I thought it sounded similar.
I have fibromyalgia and that lawyer was making himself look like an idiot 🙄
I have CRPS and a miriad of other health problems. You are correct about the base pain, it's *always* there. I'm an extremely independent person and I *hate* needing so much help. My pain is mostly in my hands and some days I can't brush own hair. My husband has been super-helpful in assisting me and backing up that this pain is real. My parents were worried I was faking, but he confirmed my nearly constant agony. My grandmother has fibromyalgia and we've bonded over the similar symptoms, difficulty in getting medical help, and having people question whether or not your pain is real. Much love, from one Spoonie to another.❤❤❤
@@annjepsen1621 I have crps too (diagnosed 13 years ago) the anxiety about seeking medical help a real thing for me to and I’m now a RN (graduated 2 years ago and am currently working in a hospital)
The pain is always there but like maya says it Varys day to day
I hope ur condition is stable at the moment
She is so poised and well-spoken considering her young age! Very compelling testimony and I am only halfway through!
To the dad - you have such an incredible daughter!!! You must be so proud of her and seeing her become a spitting image of her mama.
Oh my goodness! What the hell did “Father Tom” tell her?
Truly, every adult except her parents failed her!
I'm 60. I have CRPC, and have battled it for over 18 years. I had spent 10 years in a wheelchair, I fought, did every treatment you did. All! Today I take my meds 440 am, daily and then work fulltime. CRPS is up down all day. They found the perfect medicine and I'm in 0 pain, not drugged, and nerves are shut down, as long as I take meds. Dr. D. Shulman specializes in it. I broke my foot, leading to CRPS. Known as RSD also. I was electrocuting myself, freezing, overheated, bad swelling, atrophy. Every symptom. Treatments are temp. I know my body and listen to it. Best wishes to listen, do what your body needs.
This is crazy that this girl is cross examined on things transpiring at the age of ten, when she wasn't well.
The hospital attorney is such a sh*t.
I'm so glad this girl was allowed to speak so freely. Sometimes people are only allowed yes or no answers.
It's so hard to explain chronic pain to others that don't understand it/ haven't lived it. When you've had terrible pain day in and day out for months or years on end, you're going to report it at the doctor's appointment, even if you're having a relatively pain-free day. Years later, it would be impossible to recall what you were feeling on a particular day many years ago. But, that's what she's having to defend herself against.
Also, CRPS isn't that obscure. Someone at JH would have certainly been aware of it's existence and that ketamine is often very effective in its treatment.
A problematic social worker and know-it-all doctors ruined this girls life. There is still so much to be learned about the human body. No one knows it all. Listen to patients.
*Just an FYI for the people that are 💩 on the "3rd world doctor" (their words, not mine) from Mexico. K is also now being used in the US to treat opioid tolerance, depression and other pain hypersensitivity syndromes like fibromyalgia.*
Like any short term treatment you need to be determined to put the work in to overcome your pain/addiction and have people around you that can motivate you. Big shame her family didn't seem to do anything other than give her more drugs at that age.
@@pieface8032 They tried lots of things! You clearly don't know anything about this condition and didn't listen to her testimony. I have CRPS and the first step is *pain control!* There's also inflammation, muscle weakness and spasms, they require medication. Without it, exteme pain can give you a stroke. It's given me hypertension. Not all drugs are bad, something tells me you get antibiotics when you get an infection. Ketamine treatments are the most effective (and expensive) and give much longer lasting results so they don't need to constantly give her things like opiods. It's beyond frustrating to see comments like this. You watch the video for ten minutes and then give your expert opinion. It's harmful to those of us living with this condition.
I have Autoimmune problems, lots of pain. It's very difficult to get through the days. Disagree with the verdict!
I believe you Maya, I believe every word and every fluctuation in pain. Just because some people don't have the capacity to understand it, it doesn't mean it's not true. I'm so sorry this happened to you and your family. its absolutely horrendous. xxx
Ask anyone with a rheumatoid disease how flares work. You can go from perfectly fine to debilitated in a day.
What a bright, pleasant, kind intelligent young woman. I'm so sorry she had to endure such atrocities. The family will never be the same. I hate this for them and other families that have gone through similar at the hands of John's Hopkins team. The Kowalski family will never be the same but I pray the justice they received will serve as some level of comfort.
This broke my heart I’m so sorry they had to go through this, I’m glad they won the lawsuit but no amount of money will bring her mom back or erase all the pain they endured 😢
She has an answer for everything… Wow .!
Every single person who’s disgusted by the actions of the hospital/dcf/social workers/etc. there is one thing we can all do to try to prevent this from happening again; do not vote for anyone who will expand government authority into your family’s home, your medical decisions, & especially into your children’s lives. We have to stop looking to ‘authority’ to solve community problems & get back to people dealing with problems in their neighborhoods & communities.
Couldn't agree more. People are overly dependent on the "system"
Amen!!
Uuuuummm you are speaking to a very small group of people! A majority of Americans have ZERO insurance or are greatly underinsured. We aren't worried about "the man" in our lives we are just worried about staying healthy or unhurt in order to simply stay ALIVE!
This is corporate bureaucracy and greed! NO POOR CHILD/FAMILY WITHOUT INSURANCE WOULD HAVE HAD THIS EXPERIENCE!! No insurance would have had a poor family sent home with Benadryl to knock the child out.
The USA is the wealthiest country yet our citizens die or go bankrupt regularly because we cannot afford healthcare! BTW: the minute Roe v Wade was overturned "the government" entered your bed and your Doctors office!!!
I agree there was overreach here but there needs to be these systems, (though they need massive overhauling). We are all just as outraged when children suffer or die because no one stepped in enough. If kids are not removed or when kids are returned to abusers or didn't situation didn't rise to a level where a child could be removed... we are outraged then too. We say that the system doesn't do enough to protect kids. It can be very difficult to predict what will happen. The reason Maya was removed from parental care is that this huge powerful hospital had so much influence on the system. It happens way more than we hear about. 😢
@@tphillips6952poor children have insurance, it's the middle class that suffer, the people that make too much money to get medicaid but can barely afford to pay their bills! The poor kids get medicaid and foodstamps!
57:20 i find this constant coughing as maya talks about religion is very strange, evrytime she mentions something about her faith, that was intended but for whst reason i dont know ! If your having a coughing fit excuse yourself, to me this seemed deliberate.
“Dr” Sally Smith should be in prison!
EXACTLY “doctor” my @ss
Not for any reason...she had a very difficult job that few doctors wanted to serve the public to do. She saved thousands of children from further suffering and death.
That social worker too. And some of those drs that said the horrible things they did when they found out her mother killed herself. That woman and her sidekick the social worker have not only done this to her but they did it to many many other mothers and fathers, one was an American idol singer and had had her children taken away. One was a newborn and the same people were involved.
@@foxibot You have no idea what the real facts are. Chapter 39 in Florida prevents the disclosure of the details of what the neglect or abuse was that the parents committed. The law makes it confidential. The parents can get on social media and spin their fantasy while no lawyer or DCF person associated with the case can speak the truth because THEY are bound by confidentiality.
@@trialgoddessYou sicko
No histrionics, theatrical or OTT emotional distress but a remarkably mature calm young lady who has to learn this to regulate, learn coping strategies to survive a medical system that had no intention of taking care of her.
Remarkable self awareness and self reflection with authenticity and maturity.
Congratulations young lady.
The defence lawyer seems to forget how young she was when all this was happening. Dates, names etc. I’m amazed she can remember what she does!
He also doesn’t get her diagnosis at all!
Maya is the epitome of a polished, poised , articulate, smart young woman with super power strength. My heart weeps watching this, and I send prayers to you and your family. Your mom is in your courage and force in moving forward. She's super proud of you and your family. God speed❤.
"How can you be bedridden in pain one day and dancing the next?"
Welcome to the world of chronic pain sufferers the world over. 🤦♀️
Learned not to allow hospitals to take pictures of your kids, nominating nurse awards, journals because they will use it in court.
You can't really deny them doing so if they suspect abuse. They have to.
Yep really sad to have this used to try and sow some doubt in the jury ...But like she said it is in the nomination right there...come as fast as possible...should be the norm of care.
Justice for Maya and Beata 😢
The defense lawyer was gentler than I thought he’d be
He has to be or he risks pissing off the jury.
C'est une jeune femme digne et courageuse après toutes les épreuves qu'on lui a infligé.
Je pense à sa maman et j'ai pleuré en voyant son histoire sur Netflix.
Ce sont des monstres ces gens qui ont infligé tout ça à cette famille.
Je prie pour vous maya , votre frère et votre papa et prières pour votre maman beata.🙏
She is a great witness.
The lawyer for the hospital is asking 'was this nurse nice to you' etc. What on earth is the purpose of this type of questions. I bet he would love his children to be treated in hospital just like Maya!!
I'm not really tactical BUT I would guess he was asking base questions on how she actually really like the staff, how nice they were and possibly re-directed the attention from the suit and just target her "recollection" so it would seem flimsy, influenced. I don't see how since she was literally kept under surveillance, has no privacy, and is not allowed to even discuss her care WITH her parents on the phone? She was 9!!! Like this blows my mind how they could be this heartless. This entire hospital is negligent, and I'll never step foot in one voluntarily.
People keep saying the hospital is awful. Or course they ask her if they were truly awful. 🤦♀️
Her story is incredibly sad and inspiring. Her mother in a way helped her get out of that insanity she was in. Her mother did everything she could just like she told her she would. She had a great mother on earth and now in heaven. May you reunite one day to embrace each other forever.
She really did go and make the ultimate sacrifice just so she could get her out of that hell hole. I’m so glad they took that hospital to the cleaners.
I imagine the hospital tried to settle this case for a large dollar amount, which the family turned down. Good for them (the family). I hope they get a record breaking judgment!!!!
That's what remittiturs are for...verdicts have to bear some relationship to the allegations.
by putting themselves through this, they may also set a very important precedent against the brutal "hospitals" and help others. We don't yet have a legal precedent to crush them bc people always take settlements. this family is heroic and WHEN they win- i really think they will help other people
@@GiselleKlara This is a unique set of circumstances that will not affect how hospital risk management and hospital boards make decisions. This was far from the average "amputation of the wrong limb" or "administration of the wrong drug." A runaway verdict, if it survives appeal, will not impact the way hospitals provide care and run their business because this is not a common set of facts.
By refusing to settle the family force Maya to endure a stressful testimony...all to get even more money. Shows their priorities.
that is scary Maya losing her mom
Clearly traumized/imprinted by people at John Hopkins Children Hospital who were supposed to help her not harm her. Breaking her legs! Of my goodness. It was a blessing her mom was a nurse and could advocate for her nine yr old daughter.
Sad that that put Maya on trial to blame her, and not the hospitals poor decisions! The hospital should drop their appeal and just get their checkbook out!
I feel this testimony from Maya reflects that her mother wasn’t making her child sick in any way whatsoever. How,the heck did this hospital come to that conclusion looking at her medical records? The MP syndrome has absolutely no evidence of something like that. This case makes me so angry. When you look at cases where MP syndrome is happening it looks nothing like this. Why this hospital didn’t settle is beyond belief.
Honestly, the initial diagnosis wasn't unreasonable.. but then I think they changed their diagnosis, and at that point they should have released her back to her family.
Mbyproxy is dangerous and Dr's should be wary of mothers who take their children to many different providers and are belligerent and forceful.
The hospital made mistakes, for sure, but I don't blame them for initial assessment
@@melanieb2132they had documented physician diagnosis so no, it wasn’t in her head. If it were just the mother, maybe. But she had seen 2 specialists with a diagnosis 😮 And initial thoughts or no, 3 months is insane to carry that on.
This incredible girl has been devastatingly effective. The family should own this so-called hospital when this trial is over. Being on the defense team must be a certain level of hell. 😓😭
Chronic pain syndrome. Fibromyalgia. Myofacial Pain Syndrome. Chemical sensitivity which includeds air fragrance, trying to go into a Mall can cause anxiety knowing the amount of perfume and the smells of the clothes as well as what people have used themselves, better to not go. Not going anywhere , cleaning chemicals, dry cleaners, gasoline, fumes from cars, food sensitive, the body feels itis getting attacked and can cause extreme pain and exhaustion.
Are you Catholic? Do you carry a rosary? When was your last confession? What kind of questions are these? You confess directly to God anyways.
there are more sadistic nurses out there than we like to think. My ex was recovering from a surgery and was TORTURED by his nurse (with the breathing tube), horrible horrible horrible stuff. Not sure how can prevent.
Nursing, especially RNs, is highly skilled work and until we (society) start valuing the role as a highly skilled job, the pool of applicants will continue to be small and the shitty applicants will slip under the radar because no one is treating it like it's an important job.
Education being more accessible/affordable would also help so everyone can have the option to get a full nursing degree RN rather than lower-tiered certifications. Then you have a more educated a populous.
Plus idk if you've seen those ads over the last two decades pushing people who don't know what they want to do with their lives (no shame there) to get a basic nursing degree as a career. Like those ads about learning coding or computer science or tradeswork as career options? They have been doing that for nursing too. So these degree-certification companies profit off of drawing in people who just see it as a job. Versus historically people go into medicine because they're scientifically-inclined and they're caring.
I feel like a lot of this applies to teachers, too. If we all treated the job as important, we'd have a bigger and better pool of applicants who take their job very seriously and are drawn for the right reasons. And institutions that hire for the right reasons.
If any of that makes sense. Having a hard time describing it
I'm so sorry about your ex's experience. There's nothing like mistreatment from medical staff, it's just awful.
Talking about truly sadistic people, like deliberately harming people, I think it also goes back to giving so little attention to such an important role.
I can certainly see a sadistic person being drawn to a role like this because they know no one gives nurses any attention. Using the disregard people have for the nursing profession TO THEIR OWN BENEFIT. Attracted to being in that power over the patient while in an "invisible" role...
drs are worse in my opinion, but you CAN refuse treatment and insist, loudly, on a different nurse. I have done this and it works (usually)
@@GiselleKlara drs can definitely be worse but they are more visible in the industry so it's a very different beast
You are way off in left field. You don't know what you're talking about.
She is so poised but she looks really sick, I get pale like that when I’m really sick. Her face is like chalk. There’s no color in it. I hope she’s ok. And she can win this case.
Same! People would say I look so good and my face is all pale and gaunt
@@Kikiconsilience yeah I can always tell in pictures when I was deathly ill, I’m always deathly laid and gaunt. I can look at this picture of me and say oh yeah my eyes done look normal like they look cloudy and weird, and so I always know when I see old pictures I can say oh yeah that’s when I was nearly dead and sick on a vacation but trying not to look it! I’m sending my love to you. We females have to stick together against the medical terrorism and prejudice we endure, I am a victim of being ignored and my cancer grew and grew and took my thyroid and it killed my laryngeal nerve and vocal cord and they took my lymph nodes, parathyroids and ended up in ICU twice and caused me to have a heart attack and stroke due to their medical negligence. So I try to be a friend and support to females that are gaslight and then end up with serious health issues before because of negligence and misdiagnoses and medical neglect. That’s why I can relate to Maya because of the medical abuse and gaslighting.
Why did the jury ask about her religion, if she has a rosary….when was her last confession? When did you have Eucharist?!?! NOT APPROPRIATE !!
There was testimony that she was denied her rosary, prayer book ,access to her priest and congregation, and communion from the hospital. The priest was here and I believe the priest lol.
And the hospital said she was being controlled through religion by her mother . WOW
That is one of the Kowalski's complaints that she was not allowed to practice her religion.
@@libertyna933 of course. Thnx for pointing that out
An extremely motivated young lady who will definitely go far in life 😊 Quite ambitious indeed!
Amazing poise and confidence. Impressive testimony.
His voice OMG
Whose?
Very kind and caring
Family gives me bad vibes. Bots all over streaming channels. Read documents ppl. This lil girl did not need the amount of medication that was shopped for her
moments in, so glad he said sorry for your loss 😢 its the small things that truly matter
God bless her. I just watched the documentary and I don’t know how they have stayed so classy. So strong and amazing. I’d have burned that whole county down. Cathi, Sally, the judges all should be in prison. And this happens all over the country everyday. Wake up people. But this is about Maya and Kyle. Your mother is sooooo proud. And soooo strong. She sacrificed her life for you. She was not weak. She fought with everything for you and she still is watching over you. I 100% believe that. ❤️🙏🏼❤️🙏🏼❤️
It was not a documentary. It was a docudrama. There is a difference.
It’s almost like if this lawyer keeps repeating “what did you like about this nurse”? She finally say oh yea I liked all these nurses. She definitely did what a kid would do if she wants to get out of there. I would name all the nurses if I thought I could leave the hospital.
My heart absolutely breaks for this family. May God bless Mayas mom. ❤
She has more poise under pressure than anyone I've ever seen.
Dr Sally Smith appears to be very much like Jodi Hildebrandt in destroying families
That is the most ridiculous statement.
She is a sick wicked woman.
Thats so true! One day you feel fine and those days are so rare that you literally celebrate those days when you have them and you can wake up the next day and pay dearly for feeling good the day before. It's a terrible way to live.
Exactly you feel great so you over exert yourself which brings the horrible pain right back! I have chronic pain and know exactly how that feels!
Strength for Maya ❤🙏
What a amazing young lady ❤
Your Mom would be so proud of you Maya!🌻
Her attorney must think she's an absolute dream client. She's amazing.
This defense lawyer obviously doesnt understand cronic pain. Its always there. Some days are good and really bad. You can walk miles, cardio and weights. You may pay for it later and may not. So many factors come into play. Grrr
I think he might try to show that there was a reasonable explanation that the hospital got it so wrong with the on and off symptoms.
@@MandyAltamirano maybe. ☺️
JUSTICE FOR MAYA !!!!!
Maya ❤❤❤your family deserves justice. So do you.
They already received a $2.5 million settlement for Dr. Smith's alleged negligence.
I cant understaand why and whats the purpose of grilling this poor girl. She tragicly lost her mother and hospital treated them terribly. I dont understand why the court is treating her even worst despite of what they inow happen to her
So you think they should just hand over $200 million dollars without a trial? Maya was being deceptive on the witness stand today. Her credibility is strained on many factual issues. Her lawyer kept trying to testify for her and was warned by the judge to stop doing that. The sympathy for Maya was milked by her mother for her own purposes and harmed her daughter and son very much. The hospital is required by law to report child abuse even in cases where the child is going along with it.
it's disgusting.
@@kevinhornbucklethese women surround themselves with simps that don’t question them at all. They’re not used to being challenged or examined; just obeyed.
Her, her Father and Brother chose to bring this lawsuit rather than thanking the hospital for saving her life and going on to live a peaceful life. Johns Hopkins hospital have the right to defend themselves. This is a classic case of “no good deed goes unpunished “.
@@ayamystic Yes. This presents the question: Why did not Maya's father protect her from her mother/his wife?
The defense lawyer was all acting nice and kind to her but, in reality, was all trying to find an opening in her testimony to go in for the kill. His act-up voice just makes me sick!!!