Liminal Spaces images always give me this weird feeling that Reminds me about places I've visited when I was Really Young (2-4 years old), and it's so weird because I can remember the feeling they used to give me, But can't remember the places themselves, almost as if they just disappeared, That's what I find so interesting about these videos, it feels like watching a distorted and corrupted version of your memories, something you can recognize but can't exactly tell what it is, It's both amazing and disturbing at the same time.
Maybe you can incorporate that into your Walten files series, like you know maybe like make a character go through a abandoned part of the st. Juana's storage facility that is just a bunch of empty storage rooms with only a few rooms containing extremely rusty, and withered animatronics that never got used in the restaurant, but somehow they eventually come to life and chase down the guy.
These types of rooms send me into a perpetual state of caution and anxiety, usually for as long as I look at the image. Part of me waits for something to move into frame, it could be something safe like a cat or something horrible like a monster. I look at the image as if I were there, simply standing in this are and staring, as if I'm going through this infinite empty space where anything could exist. The fact that there's not one other thing in an image with corners and hallways worries me, the idea that something is _hiding_
Okay, i just watched this video for the second time because the first time i didnt pay much attention. you explained this perfectly! I know understand the true meaning of "Liminal Spaces." I never even realized... thank you!
I know where the photo was taken!!! A shoe zone in Leicester took me on for work manditory experience in year 11. They had the shop floor and 2 storage rooms. The specific location was being cleared out at the time but they still took me on to help out with the clearance sale. At the time, one of the storage rooms was completely empty but one was still half filled with stock. That was the exact same room!!!
except if you explore it or too long you are erased from existence so it's more like SCP-3930 "that which does not exist"/"the pattern"/"the nonexistent forest" crossed with SCP-3008 and my channel description was for an eric cartman thing i was doing but i removed the channel description
I wonder if these images actually make you feel strange because of how they look or if it’s because people say they should do so, either way some of them give me the chills haha. Great vid!
I don't think it's the latter. Use me as a control case. I hear all about these strange feelings people have, and I read them all too, but not once have I felt anything like that. Doesn't completely rule out the latter case but it does make it unlikely.
I 100% think that they make people feel uncomfortable because they genuinely trigger uncomfort, I guess that would depend on childhood experiences though (I’m guessing). For me, I would always explain to my friends that a certain song would make me feel as if I were at a train station at night, or at a McDonald’s bathroom at 3 am with black light (really specific images, but I couldn’t find a better way to describe how those songs made me feel) then one day, my friend introduced to me the concept of liminal spaces which was exactly what I was trying to convey with the train station and McDonald’s thing. So I had the uneasy feeling prior to knowing what it was called. I think it’s the same for a lot of people as well
When I see these liminal spaces I always have a feeling of wanting to explore it. To either uncover what it is hiding, what I am hiding from it, or to fend off something trying to taint it. In most of these images I feel a dangerous entitiy is hiding in the deep halls of whatever structure is being presented and it is both beckoning me inside and trying to get me to leave it alone to its deeds. Its a very "video game" feeling, to explore structures like these in a game to find treasure or battle would be perfect, and since my life is mostly spent playing games this could explain why these locations make me feel this way. Maybe that's why its liminal, to me its that transition period of finding out weather something is to be explored or feared. Weather to admire or combat. Weather these locations hold trauma or memories.
Although it isn't an "official" creepypasta, I think it really captures what creepypasta was originally meant to be. Simple horror that's easy to spread, like a copypasta.
Great video Sagan:) I didn't know why these images made me feel weird at first but now that you've explained it I now understand. You did a great job explaining it. Also I definitely think that, that backrooms photo is a randomly generated image. Something that doesn't physically exist and was just created by a machine. That's what I think but I could be wrong.
The best way I can describe how liminal spaces make me feel is unease stemming from the anticipation of something/someone appearing around the corner or through a doorway. Like specifically a dark shadow person with/without little white dots to signify eyes fnaf style. If I was in that space and it was guaranteed that I was completely alone, then I would maybe feel comforted by being the only energy in that space. I'd be able to fully appreciate the everything that comes with being alone. Me and the room could just sit in silence and be together for a while.
@@katiekazoo6389 the yellow rooms. The most known one affects me greatly mentally it makes me feel like I'm being trapped like locked in a room even thinking about it makes me feel like I cant breathe properly
I remember seeing the back room of a Burlington at my local mall. The back room looks and feels similar to the one seen in the photo. The back room of the Burlington was empty and poorly lit with many rooms.
5:01 I feel like this was part of a dream I had when I was 17 (4 years ago) and I can remember trying to run away from a bunch of deformed people who looked like members of a family. An elephantated father in overalls, a mother whose face was too small for her head, and the cat... The cat just looked like a jumbled mess of colour with the features of a cat (if anyone's seen Vinesauce's review of This Cat Does Not Exist you might have an idea of what I mean).
These to me are creepy and give me a sense of being watched. I can imagine being in an empty hotel or apartment building and looking out the window to another side of the building and see someone, standing there. That’s the sense of dread I get.
sitting back and eating a snack, i was really getting into the vibe and tone of the video, but the rat coming into view at 3:06 made me almost choke on a strawberry and brought me to tears in laughter since i did not expect it. if i had died choking, that would have made the "mourning" title card right after hilariously ironic, so thank you for that LMAO and since im here, i love how you add a filter to your voice when you read other peoples stuff! you could get away with not doing it, or opting to change your tone inflection, but it really adds a great layer to what makes listening to your videos so great. keep it up!
It's also when we find ourselves alone, we incline into a state and are stricken with the sheer freedom of existence. I feel this when i play a video games where I'm not expected to walk into the next room, a cutscene is not about to trigger or there isn't even any goal to achieve. having chosen to enter the game though makes you stop and wonder why your even here, and what you would actually like to do with your time. Also, there's something to do with just being and feeling nothing, or rather very slowly drifting through spaces rather than having to appear busy or indeed achieving anything at all.
@@gremloid not exactly. I meant exploring the popular liminal spaces images that can be found on Instagram (the rooms on the images). A game where you are... just walking around them. Bonus level include the Backrooms and Front rooms.
Liminal Spaces are actually what everything around you looks like when you’re not looking at it. Level Of Detail is what it’s called in video games I think. But here lately in my life it feels like the place I’m at is the only place that’s really here right now and the rest is just empty husks of land and cityscapes until you get close and the LOD increases and entities spawn in. Shit is scary, and I’m also stoned as fuck right now but this is honestly how I’ve felt.
Also, I get a feeling that this feeling is maybe what the first Fnaf game was trying to make. Specifically kenopsia. I mean think about it, when you look at the Fnaf 1 camera feeds, don't they feel empty. I'm looking at the Dining room camera. Where it just empty, no one is there. You feel like that it's supposed to be full of people, little toddlers running around, dazed adults just watching their kids, and employees serving pizza and soda pop. But now it's night, no one's here. It's just you, and only you. Until, by 1 AM, you notice that the big blue figure on the Show Stage is missing.
@@average_pyro It warms my heart to see that someone saw my comment. Also here is something to give you more nightmares. Imagine that when the animatronics in Fnaf 1 get you, instead of them jumpscaring you, the screen went black, and you start watching a cutscene of your character being dragged away by the animatronic you been caught by, and watch your character being stuffed into a Freddy suit. And you can hear the screaming from your character, till it becomes quiet muffles, and then SNAP. Silence.
your the first one on this site that I've seen so far be able to actually understand liminality and all of it's types usually people think it's just taking a photo that's a little blurry and weirdly lit but that's not it at all, it's so much more nuanced than that! personally, liminal spaces are calming and interesting to me. I want explore them. I want to explore a liminal earth, with no humans anywhere besides me, where I can just lay in an empty parking lot without someone thinking I'm injured or telling me I can't lay there. Or sitting in places I'm told I can't, or going places you can't normally go without some kind of annoying level of permission. I just wanna see the world and what it has without people telling me I need things first.
These images give me the same feeling as when I'm playing minecraft with my friends and the internet drops out for a few seconds. All players freeze and discord goes silent, and I'm left with quiet minecraft music playing, staring at whatever game we were playing or task we were doing, stuck in the liminal space between fun and joy. I fly or walk around in the game, knowing that not long ago in that same area I was interacting or laughing with someone. That gives me a really strong sense of whatever these images make you feel, it's almost sad and melancholic, but not quite.
At 5:01 it reminds me of so sort of bouncy castle mixed with a ball pit and it doesn’t make me cry or anything it reminds me “ dang that was fun were is that now?”
I just love this concept so much. I wanna make sone games based on this feeling. It just so uncanny to have an image that can scare one, but never have any recognizable threat. It almost like nebulous knowledge we cannot honestly understand or percept. It also reminds one of familiarity because of how vague each of them look. It's vagueness can connect to a childhood memory, but over time it is distorted, and when our brain finds such connections it will try to find an answer, and that is why it gives this feeling. Edit: I really loved how the comments always felt connected to me. We all felt the same, and all replied to each other in hopes to understand this concept. The comments section on these videos is honestly some of the best i've seen.
This always reminds me of the twilight zone episode “Five Characters in search of an Exit” where (I’m being vague so as not to spoil it as it’s one of my favorites) a random group of people wake up in a round room with no roof or exit or even memories of anything before being in the room. All the way up to the climax, the whole episode feels like the most claustrophobic version of experiencing the back rooms
The backrooms is one of the factors that covers liminal spaces, at least for me; when I watch the liminal spaces videos or whatever they are called, I get that same feeling of nostalgia, however it’s unsettling, making an unexplainable emotion in me. I don’t know if this is how it goes for other people, but when I see the backrooms images, and no, I’m not talking about the different levels, I’m talking about the original, I get that same feeling of nostalgia, except it’s one place that I have been to, or one factor of a place that I have been to. To me, the backrooms reminds me of a house from the early 2000’s, or 1980-1995, but the furniture is not put in yet, and it is incomplete. If I was in a house like this, I definitely would be scared. It’s just my opinion on the backrooms.
This is SO interesting! I mean there's so much conceptual and philosophical weight in something that, at first glance, appears so symptom. Neverending anticipation, indescribable familiarity, being between two worlds or states of being, suspended in a single, unnerving, seemingly endless moment. It's almost unreal and yet so inate to people. SO wild.
Something that I find makes the Backrooms creepy is the fact that it’s an ENDLESS liminal space. Liminal spaces like you said are places of transition or places that aren’t quite familiar but are at the same times. The back rooms sorta remind me of the long, usually empty hallways of an office. You usually aren’t in a liminal place for long, so the fact that it’s endless makes me not scared, but just disturbed. It’s like the feeling of not wanting to be in a hallway for to long.
When I was a child, my dad was the super at our local strip mall in our rural small town. In the back of the strip mall there were all these rooms and long expanses of tall white hallways and empty stores that were sealed up years ago. The way the walls were it seemed so easy to get lost. There were booths where there used to be an eating area but since has fallen into empty disrepair.... I remember feeling nostalgic for this place I'd never been in a time I never lived in and I get those feeling so often in old empty places and I'm drawn to them. The empty ballroom above my hometowns movie theater that used to be an opera house, the old bread factory and warehouses I would come to patrol as a security guard. I constantly have the urge to draw these places and write about them... I finally know the name for it now... I finally feel like I'm not nutty 😂 like somebody else has gone through it too!
The images remind of when I found videos of people exploring abandoned places. They often explain the history of the places while exploring them and it make me feel sad for the stories of the people that worked and lived in those places being lost.
I hate the feeling I get while I look at these images. But it's addicting. The fact that it's so devoid of life makes me think that something has to be there. I've had a recent real life experience with these situations. My grandparents have decided to move and as I walked through the house that I once shared memories with my siblings and cousins, it was hard to look at, I could barely recognize the house when it was so plain. When dealing with liminal spaces I feel as if I've been thrown into a dream state without any warning.
Another aspect that adds to the creepiness of the back rooms is the fact that it has the slight potential to stop being liminal. Which is terrifying in both outcomes Our brains are always expecting there to be something new around the corner. Or that the space will come to an end. But, with most back room experiences, we are greeted with the same walls, same floor and same area. However... part of us dreads what we will se that could be different. The back rooms, whilst extremely unsettling, provide this sense of uneasy comfort. Almost that since these spaces take up so little time in our minds and we have almost no bad memories attached, we can fall on the moments of simply being alive to create the blanket of safety. But if something disrupts that, then the blanket can never be recovered.
I think the backrooms mess with me becuase of what you said with the familiarity of these places but have never been before. I think it's because at one time we felt that these places were safe and familiar but they aren't anymore. They are cold, dark, and empty. And now they don't belong to you anymore. You aren't welcome anymore because someone else has ownership and you are invading the place. Taking it all for yourself instead of letting it rest. You can feel that it would make them angry. And THAT'S why it's scary. Thinking that there's somebody or someTHING thats mad at you in the backrooms. Edit: spelling
Seeing all the images in this video made me cry a bit. Felt a lot of fear and uneasiness that I’ve only felt in situations where I either knew or genuinely believed I was in danger. The infinite aspect of these images is what scares me the most.
Kenopsia greatly affects us as human beings, because we are naturally social creatures. The idea of being alone, but not feeling alone is what gets to us most. Most horror games improvise this phenomenon, it usually places you in an abandoned or empty place, but you always feel something is off. Your brain tells you something is lurking around a corner, but there is nothing. This might be because the idea of being alone is something we will never fully understand. We always feel there is something near us, possibly waiting to hunt you down. We develop fear because loneliness is not part of our natural behaviour, we feel safer in groups rather than being alone.
I would and still do have these dreams of places that I know quite well but are different in some way I cant explain. Like as soon as I started dreaming I knew what was happening. I would be at place or situation that was familiar but has this same feeling everytime. I have no words to describe what that feels like
I remember I went over to my boyfriends house and he sat me down and told me to play a backroom exploration game, and that he was kind of anxious to do it himself. I started moving around, and it was really bare bones and intentionally poorly laid out, and I played with more intrepidation rather than anxiety. Nothing happened and it was broad daylight, so that might have contributed, but either way i just thought it was worth noting
Liminal spaces are the connective tissue of memory. You want to feast on the meat of your first kiss, playing with friends or seeing your favorite movie for the first time. This is the grissle that gets stuck in your teeth and only vaguely resembles the steak you enjoyed and somehow is connected to it.
Liminal Spaces images give me the feeling of something is wrong here, as if someone or something is near. It doesn't matter what it is, its just near and I need to get away. My flight instincts tries to kick in but my fear suppresses it, and the worst of it is no matter what I can't see the thing. I can't be in a silent room without this feeling coming back. My own bedroom can produce this feeling, every moment I feel this I feel stressed.
The backrooms is existentially terrifying because I subconsciously view it as one of those circular labyrinth puzzles where the center is the finish line; the outer labyrinth as 'defragmenting' chaotically-shifting partitions and the center our observable reality. I associate it with simulation theory wherein the motives of the developer are so complex we can't understand it or they've abandoned us, our sim running it's course on autopilot where it'll inevitably collapse. The closest visual parallels I can think of is the Blue Hell from GTA San Andreas, wherein noclipping brings one to an unstable version of the world.
While watching this video I started crying as soon as the rooms were shown, I started hearing things that werent there. I started panicking, clutching my phone. I couldnt click off the video. I didn't want to continue watching, but I couldnt stop.
my theory for why these spaces are frightening is largely based in the feeling of liminality. It comes across to us as very unfamiliar, and unfamiliar feelings are very easy to influence and associate with something frightening. Uncanny Valley is similar to this (imo)- it was a general discomfort that we've come to know as horror because of how it was influenced.
feel the same shit after moving all of my things from my old room to a new one. Just by looking back to my old empty room is disturbing. Its like my eye zoomed to the old room and giving me weird feeling
Wait I just realised the photo you put up at 2:30 is the hallway of the Campbell arcade under flinders street station in Melbourne, me and my friends hang out there all the time but it looks so freaky from this perspective
There’s this weird creepy situation that I’ve known for a long time that never actually happened. In that situation, i’m in a small cottage with a chimney, the cottage is a dark purple- bluish colour and has bright red lights instead of normal white/yellow ones. Me and two other people, whose faces are not visible, have a small conversation about the peculiar lights in that room and the last thing I remember seeing is the ceiling of the cottage.
I feel like there's something wrong with me when people have these feelings when I don't. The backrooms don't really give me any sense of familiarity along with a lot of liminal spaces. I just see them as weird pictures of rooms and hallways.
So this is my perception of it. Nostalgia of something that you never live. When I see this pics I feel a big nostalgic feeling, but it feels a little bit sad because you cant actually remember why is so nostalgic. In my case I feel sad when things go to oblivion, the fact of seing an abandoned mall or an abandoned house were a lot of people used to live, gives me that feeling of kenopsia, and I feel like that place stills have some of the enrgy of what happened before. I will explained it like this: Imagine that memories are like rooms. When you were inside that room was when you where living the time of the memory. When that time ends it converts to into a memory, then you go out of the room and its locked forever, but that room has a little window where you can see the recorded memory that happened in that "room". So this pics for me are like a "window" to memories that are forgotten, then, I feel sad or melancholic because they are forgotten and desolated in a dark room.
One time I was at a nordstrom rack store and I was about 10 or 11. I needed to use the bathroom and to get there we needed to walk down an out of service escalator. When me and my mom got down there I swear it was a back room. Same mono-yellow lighting, holes in the wall from fallen lights, and random rooms and walls. When I was finished my mom was still using the bathroom and when to go see if there was anything there. Nothing. There was absolutely nothing. Just an irregular feeling in the air.
If anyone is a fan of the concept of liminal spaces, I'd advise checking out the first episode of The Twilight Zone. "Where Is Everybody". It is about a man who finds himself in an empty suburban town, except he can't shake off the inkling that people are there.
Each of these images show something mundane or generic but without anyone being there they become alien, lonely. The liminal space between the known and unknown, which is what people often describe as "creepy". You are unsure if you're safe or not and it contaminates your memories.
When inside a hotel or ferry, there's this scent.... Even if you've never been there, you recognise it. That scent. Anemoia can be experienced through all senses, but some are more triggering than others.
I feel like part of my semi-fear of liminal spaces is the fear of the unknown. You don't know what could be hidden in one of those spaces. The unknown is something that everyone is afraid of, and the idea that those pictures and images feeling familiar but different brings about change, which has a sense of anonymity to it.
Liminal spaces always creeped my out due to thinking something's there. Just like the locker room .When the school's powered flickered. I could fell something is ominous and waiting for me.
The thing for me when it comes to me, the emotion I feel... is kinda a mix of fear and uneasyness. In the first image, I feel like something is in those corridors, but I don’t know what. I feel like something wants to harm me, but I don’t know what or why. Does anyone else feel this when they see these? Edit: I watched a little of the backrooms section, and the text below the picture perfectly described my feeling.
You know I have night terrors from my ptsd and I'm in a house that's not mine and there's a closet that's not mine and in that closet there's a door and when you open it it's a backroom with more backrooms and I always hear a woman calling my name. But its scary not like normal. She's reached out to me before and I never answer back. It's terrifying. And I never had a way to explain what I was seeing til now.
The Backrooms don't scare me because, to me, the image just looks like the place where you choose from two doors in the Stanley Parable, and that's all I can see it as. Liminal spaces in general affect me very rarely as most of the very common design features of liminal spaces that make other people feel like they've seen this before (school architecture, common airport scenery, common hotel scenery, etc.) weren't something I experienced as a child for one reason or another. If you didn't get to see many things outside your own home, it's hard to have those shared experiences.
I've never felt nostalgia from seeing those images. Never. Its all just some weird pictures i found on the internet. The one unsettling feeling i feel is fear. Fear of the empty unknown, but the sure feeling that something or someone is there. In the darkness, watching
Personally one of the things I feel most emotion by is the fact I don't feel anything from these images. It disturbs me so much. I don't know why though... its like I just think these images are normal, my brain is so used to these things and thinking about them it doesn't affect me as much.
I personally think that these liminal spaces feel like security cameras. Or kinda like what it feels like in video games when you complete them. I'll take Spyro 1 for example. After you defeat Gnasty Gnorc, and return the Dragon treasure back to the dragons, your job is complete. You've beaten Spyro 1. But what do you do now? The game Spyro doesn't pull itself out the Ps4 and go back to Activision. All you can do now is wander the worlds, and do nothing. Stare at the fairies, and see them look at stuff. Dash around, trying to get fun. It's just empty.
In this world you will see and definitely know so much more when you was younger...on the other side of things...I'd know best...it has never left me...i see them still...i have even seen the slenderman...i was in my backyard when i was small...playing in the dirt trying to find worms to keep as pets...no one was around and i heard a crunch...like leafs being stepped on...i looked up...seen a man in a business suit and a completely white face...i felt calm...i didn't get scared...i giggled...then my mother came out...i looked at her...then he was gone...tho...i do not remember if she was worried or pissed at me...but that is all i remember besides going to church that could be interesting of my childhood...
Honestly theres no need to add the dark filters and effects. Its the low quality/ un tampered images that do it for me. Places like offices, indoor waterparks, empty supermarkets, airports etc.
So a state of Liminality is like a point in time/ life that marks the end of something as well as the beginning of something new? Like a prestige maybe?
So i was looking at one of those messages and i got that nostalgic feeling.. after some seconds i got a headache. And now i feel like theres something in those pictures.. just.. not there exactly. I feel like going crazy.
0:26 That freaked me out I thought it was a head creeping in.
same. I screamed 😂.
Lol ink head
Same
fuck... that fucking make me feel so bad
that's either unintentional or straight up evil
Liminal Spaces images always give me this weird feeling that Reminds me about places I've visited when I was Really Young (2-4 years old), and it's so weird because I can remember the feeling they used to give me, But can't remember the places themselves, almost as if they just disappeared, That's what I find so interesting about these videos, it feels like watching a distorted and corrupted version of your memories, something you can recognize but can't exactly tell what it is, It's both amazing and disturbing at the same time.
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Maybe you can incorporate that into your Walten files series, like you know maybe like make a character go through a abandoned part of the st. Juana's storage facility that is just a bunch of empty storage rooms with only a few rooms containing extremely rusty, and withered animatronics that never got used in the restaurant, but somehow they eventually come to life and chase down the guy.
yo I love the videos you make :D
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the backrooms is a game of tf2 with no players online but you swear you just heard a sentry beep, or a minigun rev up, or a spy decloak
Wait thats a actual server??? Cool
That’s a good example!
Even though tf2 is whacky and colorful and crazy. But the sound of an empty server, but hearing stuff like that sounds oddly disturbing
exactly
These types of rooms send me into a perpetual state of caution and anxiety, usually for as long as I look at the image. Part of me waits for something to move into frame, it could be something safe like a cat or something horrible like a monster. I look at the image as if I were there, simply standing in this are and staring, as if I'm going through this infinite empty space where anything could exist. The fact that there's not one other thing in an image with corners and hallways worries me, the idea that something is _hiding_
couldn’t explain it better, thank you
bro awesome explanation
wow
Okay, i just watched this video for the second time because the first time i didnt pay much attention. you explained this perfectly! I know understand the true meaning of "Liminal Spaces." I never even realized... thank you!
Check Alex newby's comment
Despite everything i'm surprised he never referenced the music you'd put on in the background. That actually made me feel more uneasy then the images.
HiDavidCrypt
Hey bro
Those places just reminded me that old PlayStation game, LSD Dream Emulator!
ohh shitt I thought the same
@Ambivalent I love that!
But without all the fun stuff...
That's what mainly comes to mind when I think of Liminal Spaces
When I learned of this creepypasta I was certain they were one and the same
I know where the photo was taken!!!
A shoe zone in Leicester took me on for work manditory experience in year 11. They had the shop floor and 2 storage rooms. The specific location was being cleared out at the time but they still took me on to help out with the clearance sale. At the time, one of the storage rooms was completely empty but one was still half filled with stock. That was the exact same room!!!
You should post it to the subreddit! People would be happy to see this.
alex, do you have a discord?
@@PrimoBambino no
@@alexnewby2004 do you have any form of contact? you may have just solved an almost 3 year old internet mystery.
Does anyone have a twitter account?
"Where are the backrooms?"
In the back,duh
wow ur smart
in the roblox games page, dumb
Yeah, With Ashley.
Listen in for Lil Nas X’s horses, you’ll find it
YES! A Backrooms video
Edit: _THE INFINITE IKEA_
except if you explore it or too long you are erased from existence so it's more like SCP-3930 "that which does not exist"/"the pattern"/"the nonexistent forest" crossed with SCP-3008 and my channel description was for an eric cartman thing i was doing but i removed the channel description
@@billcipher3180 You still here? I though you left Stan once he got memory gun blasted.
*Bill Cipher* I saw your channel description..... are... you ok?
@@billcipher3180 oh man that description tho. someones trying to hard to be funny
@@joshimations894 i was doing an eric cartman thing for a joke
I wonder if these images actually make you feel strange because of how they look or if it’s because people say they should do so, either way some of them give me the chills haha. Great vid!
I shall try. I will show someone who knows nothing about all these to see if it triggers a feeling to them too.
I don't think it's the latter. Use me as a control case. I hear all about these strange feelings people have, and I read them all too, but not once have I felt anything like that. Doesn't completely rule out the latter case but it does make it unlikely.
I 100% think that they make people feel uncomfortable because they genuinely trigger uncomfort, I guess that would depend on childhood experiences though (I’m guessing). For me, I would always explain to my friends that a certain song would make me feel as if I were at a train station at night, or at a McDonald’s bathroom at 3 am with black light (really specific images, but I couldn’t find a better way to describe how those songs made me feel) then one day, my friend introduced to me the concept of liminal spaces which was exactly what I was trying to convey with the train station and McDonald’s thing. So I had the uneasy feeling prior to knowing what it was called. I think it’s the same for a lot of people as well
When I see these liminal spaces I always have a feeling of wanting to explore it. To either uncover what it is hiding, what I am hiding from it, or to fend off something trying to taint it. In most of these images I feel a dangerous entitiy is hiding in the deep halls of whatever structure is being presented and it is both beckoning me inside and trying to get me to leave it alone to its deeds. Its a very "video game" feeling, to explore structures like these in a game to find treasure or battle would be perfect, and since my life is mostly spent playing games this could explain why these locations make me feel this way.
Maybe that's why its liminal, to me its that transition period of finding out weather something is to be explored or feared. Weather to admire or combat. Weather these locations hold trauma or memories.
o my god same😂, it would be indeed very cool to explore them
i usually feel the emotion when i see playrooms, daycare pictures, or empty house rooms (mostly bedrooms)
the backrooms are one of my favourite... creepy pastas? idk what to call it, but I'm excited to see what you think!
Agreed
Lofi_Killer Me too man. Really cool concept
Although it isn't an "official" creepypasta, I think it really captures what creepypasta was originally meant to be. Simple horror that's easy to spread, like a copypasta.
Creepypasta is a dead term. Long live spooky spaghetti
Favorite* no offense
The backrooms are my favorite creepypasta, because it feels like it could be real but can’t ever hurt me.
Or an scp
Chinese Himmrah backrooms isn’t an scp
Not yet it’s not
The back rooms scare me....
The backrooms are real. I've been stuck here forever. There's just the endless noise echoing across these caves. I think I'm in level 8.
Great video Sagan:) I didn't know why these images made me feel weird at first but now that you've explained it I now understand. You did a great job explaining it. Also I definitely think that, that backrooms photo is a randomly generated image. Something that doesn't physically exist and was just created by a machine. That's what I think but I could be wrong.
The best way I can describe how liminal spaces make me feel is unease stemming from the anticipation of something/someone appearing around the corner or through a doorway. Like specifically a dark shadow person with/without little white dots to signify eyes fnaf style. If I was in that space and it was guaranteed that I was completely alone, then I would maybe feel comforted by being the only energy in that space. I'd be able to fully appreciate the everything that comes with being alone. Me and the room could just sit in silence and be together for a while.
I was crying at one of these images but it wasn't for nostalgic or emotional purposes.
Which one
Witch one and why
same, for some reason it was the hotel hallway
@@katiekazoo6389 the yellow rooms. The most known one affects me greatly mentally it makes me feel like I'm being trapped like locked in a room even thinking about it makes me feel like I cant breathe properly
So curious
I remember seeing the back room of a Burlington at my local mall. The back room looks and feels similar to the one seen in the photo. The back room of the Burlington was empty and poorly lit with many rooms.
0:27 that scared the shit out of me
Dude, you deserve so much more attention. Your videos are so professionally edited. Another great video 👍
I’m so happy all this is the coming up again because I find it so interesting, the whole idea of liminal spaces and what not.
5:01 I feel like this was part of a dream I had when I was 17 (4 years ago) and I can remember trying to run away from a bunch of deformed people who looked like members of a family. An elephantated father in overalls, a mother whose face was too small for her head, and the cat... The cat just looked like a jumbled mess of colour with the features of a cat (if anyone's seen Vinesauce's review of This Cat Does Not Exist you might have an idea of what I mean).
These to me are creepy and give me a sense of being watched. I can imagine being in an empty hotel or apartment building and looking out the window to another side of the building and see someone, standing there. That’s the sense of dread I get.
sitting back and eating a snack, i was really getting into the vibe and tone of the video, but the rat coming into view at 3:06 made me almost choke on a strawberry and brought me to tears in laughter since i did not expect it. if i had died choking, that would have made the "mourning" title card right after hilariously ironic, so thank you for that LMAO
and since im here, i love how you add a filter to your voice when you read other peoples stuff! you could get away with not doing it, or opting to change your tone inflection, but it really adds a great layer to what makes listening to your videos so great. keep it up!
3:06 the unintentional jumpscare shook me xD
It's also when we find ourselves alone, we incline into a state and are stricken with the sheer freedom of existence. I feel this when i play a video games where I'm not expected to walk into the next room, a cutscene is not about to trigger or there isn't even any goal to achieve. having chosen to enter the game though makes you stop and wonder why your even here, and what you would actually like to do with your time. Also, there's something to do with just being and feeling nothing, or rather very slowly drifting through spaces rather than having to appear busy or indeed achieving anything at all.
thank you for the photo credit at 3:57! it’s not a lobby but i can definitely see how it looks like one lol
Honestly one of the best episodes of the Creepy Files yet
I hope theres a game in the future that when you somehow noclip out of the map, it Teleports you to the backrooms
Welp, time to learn how to make a game!!
I’d love a game where you explore liminal spaces
@@Duke-Orgulje I mean, LSD dream emulator is pretty much that
@@gremloid not exactly. I meant exploring the popular liminal spaces images that can be found on Instagram (the rooms on the images).
A game where you are... just walking around them. Bonus level include the Backrooms and Front rooms.
Liminal Spaces are actually what everything around you looks like when you’re not looking at it. Level Of Detail is what it’s called in video games I think. But here lately in my life it feels like the place I’m at is the only place that’s really here right now and the rest is just empty husks of land and cityscapes until you get close and the LOD increases and entities spawn in. Shit is scary, and I’m also stoned as fuck right now but this is honestly how I’ve felt.
Also, I get a feeling that this feeling is maybe what the first Fnaf game was trying to make. Specifically kenopsia. I mean think about it, when you look at the Fnaf 1 camera feeds, don't they feel empty. I'm looking at the Dining room camera. Where it just empty, no one is there. You feel like that it's supposed to be full of people, little toddlers running around, dazed adults just watching their kids, and employees serving pizza and soda pop. But now it's night, no one's here. It's just you, and only you. Until, by 1 AM, you notice that the big blue figure on the Show Stage is missing.
this made me scared of FNAF 1 again with a single comment
@@average_pyro It warms my heart to see that someone saw my comment. Also here is something to give you more nightmares. Imagine that when the animatronics in Fnaf 1 get you, instead of them jumpscaring you, the screen went black, and you start watching a cutscene of your character being dragged away by the animatronic you been caught by, and watch your character being stuffed into a Freddy suit. And you can hear the screaming from your character, till it becomes quiet muffles, and then SNAP. Silence.
I always imagined the back rooms of being the back closed door in the changing room of a nearly empty Nordstrom retail store.
anemoia and kenopsia are basically my whole aesthetic
your the first one on this site that I've seen so far be able to actually understand liminality and all of it's types
usually people think it's just taking a photo that's a little blurry and weirdly lit but that's not it at all, it's so much more nuanced than that!
personally, liminal spaces are calming and interesting to me. I want explore them.
I want to explore a liminal earth, with no humans anywhere besides me, where I can just lay in an empty parking lot without someone thinking I'm injured or telling me I can't lay there.
Or sitting in places I'm told I can't, or going places you can't normally go without some kind of annoying level of permission.
I just wanna see the world and what it has without people telling me I need things first.
These images give me the same feeling as when I'm playing minecraft with my friends and the internet drops out for a few seconds. All players freeze and discord goes silent, and I'm left with quiet minecraft music playing, staring at whatever game we were playing or task we were doing, stuck in the liminal space between fun and joy. I fly or walk around in the game, knowing that not long ago in that same area I was interacting or laughing with someone. That gives me a really strong sense of whatever these images make you feel, it's almost sad and melancholic, but not quite.
This explains so well why I loved Portal 2
At 5:01 it reminds me of so sort of bouncy castle mixed with a ball pit and it doesn’t make me cry or anything it reminds me “ dang that was fun were is that now?”
I just love this concept so much.
I wanna make sone games based on this feeling.
It just so uncanny to have an image that can scare one, but never have any recognizable threat. It almost like nebulous knowledge we cannot honestly understand or percept. It also reminds one of familiarity because of how vague each of them look. It's vagueness can connect to a childhood memory, but over time it is distorted, and when our brain finds such connections it will try to find an answer, and that is why it gives this feeling.
Edit: I really loved how the comments always felt connected to me. We all felt the same, and all replied to each other in hopes to understand this concept. The comments section on these videos is honestly some of the best i've seen.
This always reminds me of the twilight zone episode “Five Characters in search of an Exit” where (I’m being vague so as not to spoil it as it’s one of my favorites) a random group of people wake up in a round room with no roof or exit or even memories of anything before being in the room. All the way up to the climax, the whole episode feels like the most claustrophobic version of experiencing the back rooms
The backrooms is one of the factors that covers liminal spaces, at least for me; when I watch the liminal spaces videos or whatever they are called, I get that same feeling of nostalgia, however it’s unsettling, making an unexplainable emotion in me. I don’t know if this is how it goes for other people, but when I see the backrooms images, and no, I’m not talking about the different levels, I’m talking about the original, I get that same feeling of nostalgia, except it’s one place that I have been to, or one factor of a place that I have been to. To me, the backrooms reminds me of a house from the early 2000’s, or 1980-1995, but the furniture is not put in yet, and it is incomplete. If I was in a house like this, I definitely would be scared. It’s just my opinion on the backrooms.
This is SO interesting! I mean there's so much conceptual and philosophical weight in something that, at first glance, appears so symptom. Neverending anticipation, indescribable familiarity, being between two worlds or states of being, suspended in a single, unnerving, seemingly endless moment. It's almost unreal and yet so inate to people. SO wild.
These places give me that feeling of when you wake up before everyone else at a sleep over. Is that just me?
Something that I find makes the Backrooms creepy is the fact that it’s an ENDLESS liminal space. Liminal spaces like you said are places of transition or places that aren’t quite familiar but are at the same times. The back rooms sorta remind me of the long, usually empty hallways of an office. You usually aren’t in a liminal place for long, so the fact that it’s endless makes me not scared, but just disturbed. It’s like the feeling of not wanting to be in a hallway for to long.
right when the first image was shown my head jerked to the side and I got the chills.. super weird feeling
When I was a child, my dad was the super at our local strip mall in our rural small town. In the back of the strip mall there were all these rooms and long expanses of tall white hallways and empty stores that were sealed up years ago. The way the walls were it seemed so easy to get lost. There were booths where there used to be an eating area but since has fallen into empty disrepair.... I remember feeling nostalgic for this place I'd never been in a time I never lived in and I get those feeling so often in old empty places and I'm drawn to them. The empty ballroom above my hometowns movie theater that used to be an opera house, the old bread factory and warehouses I would come to patrol as a security guard. I constantly have the urge to draw these places and write about them... I finally know the name for it now... I finally feel like I'm not nutty 😂 like somebody else has gone through it too!
The images remind of when I found videos of people exploring abandoned places. They often explain the history of the places while exploring them and it make me feel sad for the stories of the people that worked and lived in those places being lost.
I hate the feeling I get while I look at these images. But it's addicting. The fact that it's so devoid of life makes me think that something has to be there. I've had a recent real life experience with these situations. My grandparents have decided to move and as I walked through the house that I once shared memories with my siblings and cousins, it was hard to look at, I could barely recognize the house when it was so plain. When dealing with liminal spaces I feel as if I've been thrown into a dream state without any warning.
Another aspect that adds to the creepiness of the back rooms is the fact that it has the slight potential to stop being liminal. Which is terrifying in both outcomes
Our brains are always expecting there to be something new around the corner. Or that the space will come to an end. But, with most back room experiences, we are greeted with the same walls, same floor and same area.
However... part of us dreads what we will se that could be different. The back rooms, whilst extremely unsettling, provide this sense of uneasy comfort. Almost that since these spaces take up so little time in our minds and we have almost no bad memories attached, we can fall on the moments of simply being alive to create the blanket of safety. But if something disrupts that, then the blanket can never be recovered.
This reminds me of the time I went to the salt lake modern art museum and went to the 2nd basement. Felt exactly like this and got out immediately
I think the backrooms mess with me becuase of what you said with the familiarity of these places but have never been before. I think it's because at one time we felt that these places were safe and familiar but they aren't anymore. They are cold, dark, and empty. And now they don't belong to you anymore. You aren't welcome anymore because someone else has ownership and you are invading the place. Taking it all for yourself instead of letting it rest. You can feel that it would make them angry. And THAT'S why it's scary. Thinking that there's somebody or someTHING thats mad at you in the backrooms.
Edit: spelling
Yeeeees. Exactly.
Man this evokes so many emotions. I swear im crying. Thinking about my room as a kid..... Now its an an empty place. No one bought our house.
@@brunispero9301 yeah I'm high as shit rn but this shit is a vibe bro.
Seeing all the images in this video made me cry a bit. Felt a lot of fear and uneasiness that I’ve only felt in situations where I either knew or genuinely believed I was in danger. The infinite aspect of these images is what scares me the most.
Kenopsia greatly affects us as human beings, because we are naturally social creatures. The idea of being alone, but not feeling alone is what gets to us most.
Most horror games improvise this phenomenon, it usually places you in an abandoned or empty place, but you always feel something is off.
Your brain tells you something is lurking around a corner, but there is nothing. This might be because the idea of being alone is something we will never fully understand. We always feel there is something near us, possibly waiting to hunt you down.
We develop fear because loneliness is not part of our natural behaviour, we feel safer in groups rather than being alone.
I would and still do have these dreams of places that I know quite well but are different in some way I cant explain. Like as soon as I started dreaming I knew what was happening. I would be at place or situation that was familiar but has this same feeling everytime. I have no words to describe what that feels like
I love liminal spaces, they make me feel comfortable and like they are reminding me of something I had forgotten, like a dream.
I remember I went over to my boyfriends house and he sat me down and told me to play a backroom exploration game, and that he was kind of anxious to do it himself. I started moving around, and it was really bare bones and intentionally poorly laid out, and I played with more intrepidation rather than anxiety. Nothing happened and it was broad daylight, so that might have contributed, but either way i just thought it was worth noting
These luminal spaces images give me the same vibe as early Simpson’s episodes and I couldn’t even begin to describe it
somehow i know exactly what you mean
Liminal spaces are the connective tissue of memory. You want to feast on the meat of your first kiss, playing with friends or seeing your favorite movie for the first time. This is the grissle that gets stuck in your teeth and only vaguely resembles the steak you enjoyed and somehow is connected to it.
Liminal Spaces images give me the feeling of something is wrong here, as if someone or something is near. It doesn't matter what it is, its just near and I need to get away. My flight instincts tries to kick in but my fear suppresses it, and the worst of it is no matter what I can't see the thing. I can't be in a silent room without this feeling coming back. My own bedroom can produce this feeling, every moment I feel this I feel stressed.
The backrooms is existentially terrifying because I subconsciously view it as one of those circular labyrinth puzzles where the center is the finish line; the outer labyrinth as 'defragmenting' chaotically-shifting partitions and the center our observable reality.
I associate it with simulation theory wherein the motives of the developer are so complex we can't understand it or they've abandoned us, our sim running it's course on autopilot where it'll inevitably collapse. The closest visual parallels I can think of is the Blue Hell from GTA San Andreas, wherein noclipping brings one to an unstable version of the world.
I was watching one of these 'nostalgic images with nostalgic music in the background' and started crying at one specific picture and music combination
While watching this video I started crying as soon as the rooms were shown, I started hearing things that werent there. I started panicking, clutching my phone. I couldnt click off the video. I didn't want to continue watching, but I couldnt stop.
my theory for why these spaces are frightening is largely based in the feeling of liminality. It comes across to us as very unfamiliar, and unfamiliar feelings are very easy to influence and associate with something frightening. Uncanny Valley is similar to this (imo)- it was a general discomfort that we've come to know as horror because of how it was influenced.
Every time I have dreams involving buildings I get the same feeling I get while watching these video
Quite possibly the best explanation of leminal space and back rooms together.
I was unsure if it was real or not at least to some level.
feel the same shit after moving all of my things from my old room to a new one. Just by looking back to my old empty room is disturbing. Its like my eye zoomed to the old room and giving me weird feeling
Why do you not have more subs?
Wait I just realised the photo you put up at 2:30 is the hallway of the Campbell arcade under flinders street station in Melbourne, me and my friends hang out there all the time but it looks so freaky from this perspective
0:25 that scared the crap out of me
There’s this weird creepy situation that I’ve known for a long time that never actually happened. In that situation, i’m in a small cottage with a chimney, the cottage is a dark purple- bluish colour and has bright red lights instead of normal white/yellow ones. Me and two other people, whose faces are not visible, have a small conversation about the peculiar lights in that room and the last thing I remember seeing is the ceiling of the cottage.
I feel like there's something wrong with me when people have these feelings when I don't. The backrooms don't really give me any sense of familiarity along with a lot of liminal spaces. I just see them as weird pictures of rooms and hallways.
The liminal spaces videos make me feel like there's something in those places, and it does not want me there.
when the intro back room come in it jumpsscare me alot i got chill lmao
Lol, same.
Thank you for the frogs at the end
So this is my perception of it. Nostalgia of something that you never live. When I see this pics I feel a big nostalgic feeling, but it feels a little bit sad because you cant actually remember why is so nostalgic. In my case I feel sad when things go to oblivion, the fact of seing an abandoned mall or an abandoned house were a lot of people used to live, gives me that feeling of kenopsia, and I feel like that place stills have some of the enrgy of what happened before. I will explained it like this: Imagine that memories are like rooms. When you were inside that room was when you where living the time of the memory. When that time ends it converts to into a memory, then you go out of the room and its locked forever, but that room has a little window where you can see the recorded memory that happened in that "room". So this pics for me are like a "window" to memories that are forgotten, then, I feel sad or melancholic because they are forgotten and desolated in a dark room.
I think a lot of people (myself included) fear liminal spaces because we're expecting some kind of jumpscare whenever we see them.
One time I was at a nordstrom rack store and I was about 10 or 11. I needed to use the bathroom and to get there we needed to walk down an out of service escalator. When me and my mom got down there I swear it was a back room. Same mono-yellow lighting, holes in the wall from fallen lights, and random rooms and walls. When I was finished my mom was still using the bathroom and when to go see if there was anything there. Nothing. There was absolutely nothing. Just an irregular feeling in the air.
If anyone is a fan of the concept of liminal spaces, I'd advise checking out the first episode of The Twilight Zone. "Where Is Everybody". It is about a man who finds himself in an empty suburban town, except he can't shake off the inkling that people are there.
Each of these images show something mundane or generic but without anyone being there they become alien, lonely. The liminal space between the known and unknown, which is what people often describe as "creepy". You are unsure if you're safe or not and it contaminates your memories.
When inside a hotel or ferry, there's this scent.... Even if you've never been there, you recognise it. That scent. Anemoia can be experienced through all senses, but some are more triggering than others.
I feel like part of my semi-fear of liminal spaces is the fear of the unknown. You don't know what could be hidden in one of those spaces. The unknown is something that everyone is afraid of, and the idea that those pictures and images feeling familiar but different brings about change, which has a sense of anonymity to it.
Liminal spaces always creeped my out due to thinking something's there. Just like the locker room .When the school's powered flickered. I could fell something is ominous and waiting for me.
5:05 I just don’t get why someone would paint his house like that...
It's like a childrens' daycare.
@@moodymoosh stfu
@@niga3 why though?
The thing for me when it comes to me, the emotion I feel... is kinda a mix of fear and uneasyness. In the first image, I feel like something is in those corridors, but I don’t know what. I feel like something wants to harm me, but I don’t know what or why. Does anyone else feel this when they see these?
Edit: I watched a little of the backrooms section, and the text below the picture perfectly described my feeling.
You know I have night terrors from my ptsd and I'm in a house that's not mine and there's a closet that's not mine and in that closet there's a door and when you open it it's a backroom with more backrooms and I always hear a woman calling my name. But its scary not like normal. She's reached out to me before and I never answer back. It's terrifying. And I never had a way to explain what I was seeing til now.
The Backrooms don't scare me because, to me, the image just looks like the place where you choose from two doors in the Stanley Parable, and that's all I can see it as. Liminal spaces in general affect me very rarely as most of the very common design features of liminal spaces that make other people feel like they've seen this before (school architecture, common airport scenery, common hotel scenery, etc.) weren't something I experienced as a child for one reason or another. If you didn't get to see many things outside your own home, it's hard to have those shared experiences.
There was a gliding club that my dad was a member of and in 2011 to 2013 I walked to the toilet and the empty dark hangar really freaked me out.
Thanks now I can’t sleep
I've never felt nostalgia from seeing those images. Never. Its all just some weird pictures i found on the internet. The one unsettling feeling i feel is fear. Fear of the empty unknown, but the sure feeling that something or someone is there. In the darkness, watching
Places that used to have alot of people and energy, now empty, make me feel uneasy.
I love liminal spaces, they give such a nostalgic vibe...
Personally one of the things I feel most emotion by is the fact I don't feel anything from these images. It disturbs me so much. I don't know why though... its like I just think these images are normal, my brain is so used to these things and thinking about them it doesn't affect me as much.
I personally think that these liminal spaces feel like security cameras. Or kinda like what it feels like in video games when you complete them. I'll take Spyro 1 for example. After you defeat Gnasty Gnorc, and return the Dragon treasure back to the dragons, your job is complete. You've beaten Spyro 1. But what do you do now? The game Spyro doesn't pull itself out the Ps4 and go back to Activision. All you can do now is wander the worlds, and do nothing. Stare at the fairies, and see them look at stuff. Dash around, trying to get fun. It's just
empty.
In this world you will see and definitely know so much more when you was younger...on the other side of things...I'd know best...it has never left me...i see them still...i have even seen the slenderman...i was in my backyard when i was small...playing in the dirt trying to find worms to keep as pets...no one was around and i heard a crunch...like leafs being stepped on...i looked up...seen a man in a business suit and a completely white face...i felt calm...i didn't get scared...i giggled...then my mother came out...i looked at her...then he was gone...tho...i do not remember if she was worried or pissed at me...but that is all i remember besides going to church that could be interesting of my childhood...
Just imagine waking up in a endless hall not knowing if you're alone.
It feels like us (the viewer of these liminal areas) have been selected to walk around the world and view humanity without humans
Honestly theres no need to add the dark filters and effects. Its the low quality/ un tampered images that do it for me. Places like offices, indoor waterparks, empty supermarkets, airports etc.
So a state of Liminality is like a point in time/ life that marks the end of something as well as the beginning of something new? Like a prestige maybe?
Nice video man,keep it up
So i was looking at one of those messages and i got that nostalgic feeling.. after some seconds i got a headache. And now i feel like theres something in those pictures.. just.. not there exactly. I feel like going crazy.
Just wanna say, these hit differently with PTSD