Both Orton and Cody were written off TV after they took a pilediver from KO. Orton was seen attending doctors and need of a surgery and Cody is wearing neck brace making very limited appearance. Atleast they are trying to keep kayfabe alive. On the other hand Tony who was receiving end of spiked pile diver at the hands of Bucks attended a NFL related conference the very next day wearing a neck brace, moving his head in all directions while trying to make everyone understand the move is so devastating and outlawed in various states. The difference of professionalism in both promotion. One takes it seriously and the other a playtime with his little friends.
Man, I just can't get enough of Dutch telling these stories! He's so good at it, now I want to watch matches with him and Austin Idol, so I can try to spot the times Idol is expressing his displeasure into Dutch being too snug with his work! LOL
the smaller sets are awesome. i grew up on the giant elaborate Attitude Era sets and will always have fond memories of them, but the current era with a sea of people going nuts is great to watch. everything feels more exciting with all the faces in the crowd.
Actually dutch, people wanted Kevin to use piledriver on Cody one more time and even chanted "you deserve it!" while Cody waa being carried to the ambulance. Chilling, and shows that the crowd empathized with Kevin after seeing how Cody defeated him via cheating. It will only make the plot spicier and i am looking forward to the future. Just hot stuff🔥
@@bipolarminddroppings going by that logic, orton is supposed to be not hurt at all in kayfabe because his head did not touch the mat at all. It is all wrestling logic, you are supposed to think Cody used the chair to his advantage against Kevin while delivering the finisher.
That’s just New York/upper east coast culture. Same people who threw snowballs at Santa clause. Who boo’d a “stand for cancer” ad because Sidney Crosby was in it lol. These are people who will step OVER a Human being laying on the side walk injured and Gargling blood just so they can get to the sidewalk for a light change lmao
.......Foolish not putting the piledriver attack angle on TV tho. In fact that was my criticism of the whole show; they just treated it like a mini-PPV and put up all the interviews on the internet instead; rather than getting the characters over like on the original SNME shows. Could have had the triple threat on Raw to make room. Liv shoulda won dirty too.
LIKE HHH TOLD CODY WHEN HE GAVE HIM THE PACKAGE. "IT WAS FOR ONE NIGHT ONLY." SINCE THAT BELT WAS WORN BY HOGAN ON THE FIRST SATURDAY NIGHT'S MAIN EVENT. IT WAS ONLY FOR THAT SHOW. SO CODY STILL USES HIS BELT. BUT SINCE CODY LOVES THAT GOLDEN EAGLE BELT, HE WANTED TO RE DESIGN THE CURRENT BELT. THEY WILL PROBABLY MAKE A MODERN VERSION OF IT FOR CODY, IMO. 👊🏽
@airfixx_8952 YES SIR, THE FIRST WWWF EAGLE BELT WAS BRUNO'S. THEN BILLY GRAHAM, AND DUSTY RHODES HAD IT FOR A COUPLE OF MINUTES. THIS EAGLE BELT WAS MADE IN 1988. FOR THE FIRST SATURDAY'S NIGHT'S MAIN EVENT SHOW. IT HAS ALWAYS BEEN MY FAVORITE WRESTLING BELT. TO ME THIS EAGLE BELT WILL ALWAYS BE. BRET HART'S BELT. 👊🏽
@@edwindiaz8257 There were actually 2 more that I forgot about........ Sheik dropped the 'Big Green' to Hogan. Then there was: - Hogan 84 - Eagle / silver plate / red text. - Hogan 85 - Eagle / silver plate / black paintwork / silver text. - Hogan 'Mystery' - new design / only lasted 2 weeks (hogan said it was v.uncomfortable. - Hogan 86 - New design(*) - Winged Eagle 88 - The all-time classic which lasted 10 years. (*There was also an bigger variant in storyline prepared for Andre that never got used.) th-cam.com/video/Q3HbLPmnxts/w-d-xo.html
@airfixx_8952 THERE ARE ACTUALY A WHOLE LOT MORE. HOGAN HAD THE MOST BELT CHANGES OF ANY ONE. EVEN ONE THAT THEY CALLED 'THE MYSTERY BELT.' HE ONLY WORE ONCE FOR A HOUSE SHOW. THERE ARE QUITE A FEW, LOL! 🤔 💯👊🏽
Cody is a great wrestler and that was a great match, but I feel like his championship. Rein has been kinda doll. Nothing exciting in my eyes no real competitors with him that just gets you excited
Have been loving Cody and Kevin and Orton it’s classic ACTUAL wrestling. They used the Piledriver as an angle. Basic psychology and it WORKS. IQ’s are NOT Getting better. They’re getting worse. So use more basic psychology!! It works!!!!
I was there. The show was ok. We wanted more surprises. We wanted Randy. But, we represented the island all night with the crowd noise. We were the section doing the woo woo woo for Chelsea and the You Deserve it chants for Cody. it was awesome being there live. But, only promo was Jessie reading off of cards. Plus, we only got Jessie, Koko, and The Hammer. I was expecting more old guys. The show went really fast though. Ha.
@@airfixx_8952 nope. Show ended by 10pm. We got to see the Owens pile driver and the HHH shoving. It was disappointing in that sense. But, it was so much fun. Ha.
The Winged Eagle was supposed to be a one night special thing. That was established days before. They will probably conclude this with a ladder match like when HBK & Razor fought over two IC titles.
A ladder match between KO and Cody at Royal Rumble 2025 for both winged eagled title and current wwe title post which winged eagle title will be retired.
No they're not. KO as a heel is fun. He needs to be given a longer run and win most matches even if they don't want to put the tittle on him. And Cody is the right guy to be WWE's top babyface. But yes I do admit Cody is becoming lackluster a little bit. And it's not due to Cody's fault or the bookings fault because the WWE brass is pushing Cody as their top guy. It happens with all clean cut baby face. Infact I think Cody would be tremendous as a heel. He has all the necessary ingredients required to be a great heel.
I used to not really like Owens. I'm still not a huge fan really. But, his recent work is really good. I'm enjoying him going crazy because he's actually right. Roman is exactly the same dude really. He only turned because the crowd was cheering for him. How did he repent to anyone? So, it's the same thing with Drew. I think all the guys who see this should be the new top heel faction. Drew, Owens, Kross, and the bloodline. That could be a new nwo like stable, if done right. Give them Paul and they're off to the races. Ha.
Both Orton and Cody were written off TV after they took a pilediver from KO. Orton was seen attending doctors and need of a surgery and Cody is wearing neck brace making very limited appearance. Atleast they are trying to keep kayfabe alive. On the other hand Tony who was receiving end of spiked pile diver at the hands of Bucks attended a NFL related conference the very next day wearing a neck brace, moving his head in all directions while trying to make everyone understand the move is so devastating and outlawed in various states. The difference of professionalism in both promotion. One takes it seriously and the other a playtime with his little friends.
Have you noticed how WWE guys are keeping Kayfabe more and more on twitter, in interviews etc? It's not an accident.
Tony 🤡
Ha.
Tony thinks Kay fabe is a girl in marketing
The amount of people that thought Kevin botched the piledriver astounds me.
It looked MUCH better than the one on Orton.........
That package piledriver did not look no where as protected as Orton's regular piledriver.
Cody doesn’t have the upper body injury history Randy has so Kevin can be a little more stiff with Cody .
Man, I just can't get enough of Dutch telling these stories! He's so good at it, now I want to watch matches with him and Austin Idol, so I can try to spot the times Idol is expressing his displeasure into Dutch being too snug with his work! LOL
The only question i had was is that their House Show set? Less is Way More, i loved it.
the smaller sets are awesome. i grew up on the giant elaborate Attitude Era sets and will always have fond memories of them, but the current era with a sea of people going nuts is great to watch. everything feels more exciting with all the faces in the crowd.
It was their pre-Raw era look
Wouldnt it be funny if Kevin Owens walks out to the "Obsession" song as his new theme. Or had the mountie as his bodyguard to protect the 🦅 🏆.
😂😂😂😂 yes!! I hope he does that!
Huge yes to the music idea... That's great!
Actually dutch, people wanted Kevin to use piledriver on Cody one more time and even chanted "you deserve it!" while Cody waa being carried to the ambulance. Chilling, and shows that the crowd empathized with Kevin after seeing how Cody defeated him via cheating. It will only make the plot spicier and i am looking forward to the future. Just hot stuff🔥
Thing is though, he didn't cheat. Watch it again, Cody's back hits the chair, KO's head doesn't get anywhere close. It's a bit of a botch, tbh.
Yeah I was there and that was my section cheering that.
Ha.
We also got to see HHH push Owens a few times.
Ha.
@@bipolarminddroppings going by that logic, orton is supposed to be not hurt at all in kayfabe because his head did not touch the mat at all. It is all wrestling logic, you are supposed to think Cody used the chair to his advantage against Kevin while delivering the finisher.
That’s just New York/upper east coast culture. Same people who threw snowballs at Santa clause. Who boo’d a “stand for cancer” ad because Sidney Crosby was in it lol. These are people who will step OVER a Human being laying on the side walk injured and Gargling blood just so they can get to the sidewalk for a light change lmao
.......Foolish not putting the piledriver attack angle on TV tho. In fact that was my criticism of the whole show; they just treated it like a mini-PPV and put up all the interviews on the internet instead; rather than getting the characters over like on the original SNME shows. Could have had the triple threat on Raw to make room. Liv shoulda won dirty too.
Dutch borrowed Freddy's sweater
LIKE HHH TOLD CODY WHEN HE GAVE HIM THE PACKAGE.
"IT WAS FOR ONE NIGHT ONLY."
SINCE THAT BELT WAS WORN BY HOGAN ON THE FIRST SATURDAY NIGHT'S MAIN EVENT. IT WAS ONLY FOR THAT SHOW.
SO CODY STILL USES HIS BELT.
BUT SINCE CODY LOVES THAT GOLDEN EAGLE BELT, HE WANTED TO RE DESIGN THE CURRENT BELT.
THEY WILL PROBABLY MAKE A MODERN VERSION OF IT FOR CODY, IMO. 👊🏽
Good idea, they do love the unique belts for merch money.
That belt wasn't the OG SNME title...... That title debuted in Feb 88.... There were 2 more before that.
@airfixx_8952 YES SIR, THE FIRST WWWF EAGLE BELT WAS BRUNO'S. THEN BILLY GRAHAM, AND DUSTY RHODES HAD IT FOR A COUPLE OF MINUTES.
THIS EAGLE BELT WAS MADE IN 1988. FOR THE FIRST SATURDAY'S NIGHT'S MAIN EVENT SHOW.
IT HAS ALWAYS BEEN MY FAVORITE WRESTLING BELT.
TO ME THIS EAGLE BELT WILL ALWAYS BE. BRET HART'S BELT. 👊🏽
@@edwindiaz8257
There were actually 2 more that I forgot about........
Sheik dropped the 'Big Green' to Hogan.
Then there was:
- Hogan 84 - Eagle / silver plate / red text.
- Hogan 85 - Eagle / silver plate / black paintwork / silver text.
- Hogan 'Mystery' - new design / only lasted 2 weeks (hogan said it was v.uncomfortable.
- Hogan 86 - New design(*)
- Winged Eagle 88 - The all-time classic which lasted 10 years.
(*There was also an bigger variant in storyline prepared for Andre that never got used.)
th-cam.com/video/Q3HbLPmnxts/w-d-xo.html
@airfixx_8952 THERE ARE ACTUALY A WHOLE LOT MORE. HOGAN HAD THE MOST BELT CHANGES OF ANY ONE. EVEN ONE THAT THEY CALLED 'THE MYSTERY BELT.' HE ONLY WORE ONCE FOR A HOUSE SHOW. THERE ARE QUITE A FEW, LOL! 🤔 💯👊🏽
Regarding KO, once more, Cornette was right.
The point is that some people will never admit it.
Cody is a great wrestler and that was a great match, but I feel like his championship. Rein has been kinda doll. Nothing exciting in my eyes no real competitors with him that just gets you excited
Have been loving Cody and Kevin and Orton it’s classic ACTUAL wrestling. They used the Piledriver as an angle. Basic psychology and it WORKS. IQ’s are NOT Getting better. They’re getting worse. So use more basic psychology!! It works!!!!
I was there. The show was ok. We wanted more surprises. We wanted Randy. But, we represented the island all night with the crowd noise.
We were the section doing the woo woo woo for Chelsea and the You Deserve it chants for Cody. it was awesome being there live. But, only promo was Jessie reading off of cards. Plus, we only got Jessie, Koko, and The Hammer. I was expecting more old guys. The show went really fast though.
Ha.
What a mark
Were there no dark matches?
@@airfixx_8952 nope. Show ended by 10pm. We got to see the Owens pile driver and the HHH shoving. It was disappointing in that sense. But, it was so much fun.
Ha.
@@KingSilly how so dum dum?
Ha.
Owens is 0-2 they need to stop giving him title matches ,have him a feud with Randy then do other things
Both matches it was shown that he could have won...... They keeping him strong.
The Winged Eagle was supposed to be a one night special thing. That was established days before. They will probably conclude this with a ladder match like when HBK & Razor fought over two IC titles.
A ladder match between KO and Cody at Royal Rumble 2025 for both winged eagled title and current wwe title post which winged eagle title will be retired.
I swear this is the 5th clip I’ve seen that said *Syndicate at the bottom 😂 we get it James. You didn’t want to offend AEW for lack of creativity ✌🏻
What's going to go on with OSU and Tennessee tonight Mr. Mantell 🤔😉😁
Dutch critizing someone for their body is painting the kettle black ain’t it?
Kevin Owens is Mr. Wrestling.
Dutchman with a strip club reference👍
🤔
👀👀👀
Kevin Owens is boring and so is cody
No they're not. KO as a heel is fun. He needs to be given a longer run and win most matches even if they don't want to put the tittle on him.
And Cody is the right guy to be WWE's top babyface. But yes I do admit Cody is becoming lackluster a little bit. And it's not due to Cody's fault or the bookings fault because the WWE brass is pushing Cody as their top guy. It happens with all clean cut baby face. Infact I think Cody would be tremendous as a heel. He has all the necessary ingredients required to be a great heel.
hard disagree, KO needed to do something more spicy and I enjoy his work, he was boring as the good guy. just my opinion.
I used to not really like Owens. I'm still not a huge fan really. But, his recent work is really good. I'm enjoying him going crazy because he's actually right. Roman is exactly the same dude really. He only turned because the crowd was cheering for him. How did he repent to anyone? So, it's the same thing with Drew. I think all the guys who see this should be the new top heel faction. Drew, Owens, Kross, and the bloodline.
That could be a new nwo like stable, if done right.
Give them Paul and they're off to the races.
Ha.
@@rajakghosh6602judging by your response saying " No they're not " shows play you must be 12 years old or have the mental capacity of an 8 year old
@@Am0ment0fBOwens is a goof and Cody lisp Rhodes is cringe