I'd like him to do that, be another Ned Jarrett who retired early and has that well-spoken and gentleman-like attitude. If there ever was a guy that could be another "Gentleman Ned" it's "Cousin Carl".
@@connorbingel71342010-2014 Brad K was just as much a hot heat at times too. Don’t forget, before Edward’s spun Brad both times (Atlanta flip, Gateway crash), Brad had previously gotten into Edward’s, at Atlanta he ruined Carls day and at Gateway it was a battle for the lead.
@@connorbingel7134 mutual combat between BK and Cousin Carl. I recall Carl getting out of a destroyed car and running across the finish line, Ricky Bobby style
NASCAR isn’t saying anything and they won’t! The same thing happened when Kyle Busch broke his leg several years ago and had to apply for a waiver. There is a hearing that must take place, and commenting about it before then would be a stupid move on their part. Everyone in the garage knows he will get a wavier since he was in the car ready to go before NASCAR called the race. People should stop expecting to hear anything until a waver hearing takes place.
Carl was the modern day Mark Martin. He did his best. Comfortable in his own skin, and did not need the trappings to validate himself. Carl was a fierce competitor. Go back to his first win battling Jimmie Johnson and you will see his talent on full display. He did it his way. He owns it like a man does. Love or hate him, he was a great talent. Period.
@@og_tc actually, he was. In 1990, Mark was penalized for having a carb spacer that was bolted on instead of welded on. That infraction, which made no difference in the performance of his car at all, gave Earnhardt Sr. the Championship
It's always best to leave when you're on top of your game. Carl Edwards always did one thing that I thought was the ultimate show respect , He always took off his sunglasses when he was being interviewed.
This shouldn’t even be a debate. Larson was used in Marketing for both nascar and Indycar. He should get a playoff waiver because he’s one of the best and has soooo many fans
While I think he should get the waiver... "He should get a playoff waiver because he’s one of the best and has soooo many fans" isn't a valid reason why. Larson knew full well that the requirement to start all races existed, he made his choice. However, NASCAR allowing him to run Indy in the first place is all Larson needs to make a case for getting a waiver.
Not just that he already has two wins and he had every attention to run the coca cola 600 it was just the weather ruined him continuing what's left in the coca cola 600
Hey, you must also realize Carl's wife is a is a physician who works with patients with traumatic and severe brain injuries. I sure her work as a doctor played a part in his early retirement along with Dale Jr. head injury status during the 2016 season.
Honestly, Larson and Hendrick should do everything in their power to win the most races and lead the championship at the end of the regular season by as large of margin as possible. That way if he’s denied, NASCAR would have to try and explain it to new and old fans. I think all the fans would unite at that point.
The 5 is still leading the points and can still win Owners title regardless of driver points or a waiver. Owners champion is what pays the bills. Just like in 2022 the 5 team was in the final 4 but Larson wasn't as a driver.
Carl's interview to me sounds like if he had won the 2016 championship, he would've run the 2017 season because of obligation, but probably would've regretted it afterwards and retired after 2017.
As a die hard Carl Edwards fan I am super happy to see him touch base with the Nascar fan base again. I love how he handled the interview and even happier to see hi mfinally admit his feelings toward Nascar's handling of the 2016 finale. I think he would be a perfect fit for the broadcast booth and hope NBC or FOX takes him seriously.
He has 79 wins across the three major series which shocked me but then i think about that Busch car #60 and he had that thing going. I dont think anyone has the right to dictate how another man walks away from his chosen career, he did what he felt was right and that should be good enough.
❓ Why do we like Eric, more than Race Hub, more than NBC (does NBC even cover NASCAR before their half-year?). _This_ _video_ is why we like Eric. He speaks for fans and the integrity of the sport, and he doesn't shill for NASCAR or corporate interests. This was a great segment. 🏁🏆
Yep they do. Gotta make bookies happy. Rule says drivers and teams can't manipulate the outcome of the race. But no rule against NASCAR manipulating the hell out of it. And now they have three stages to manipulate per "race"
Hey Eric! I solved the problem! Apply for a waiver prior to the activity that may require a waiver. Excluding unpredictable circumstances of course like injuries. Want to do the Indy 500? Apply for a waiver. Birth of your child coming up? Apply for a waiver. Need elective surgery? Apply for a waiver. Want to run Le Mans? Apply for a waiver. It would show NASCAR’s commitment to safety AND This would help legitimize NASCAR as the top Motorsport circuit in the world due to it’s long schedule and willingness to allow dominant drivers to compete in other series.
I can say that the most likely reason he quit when he did was due to concerns his wife had. Shes a doctor and understood back then how bad concussions were and I'm positive she had many long talks with Carl about his health and chances of getting hurt seriously driving in stock cars. Out of his respect and love for her me made that hard decision. That explanation makes complete sense and I can respect him for it. But, now that hes opened that door by saying " I had fun calling the race and maybe I' like to come back to do that." Amazon NBC and Fox have all contacted him about that position already at this point. My guess is that Amazon will win and you will see Carl along side Dale Jr calling races on Amazon Prime next year. You hear it here first folks!
10:23 I think you just perfectly summed up how I and a lot of other fans feel. Carl was always one of the sports best personalities and he was my favorite driver as i got into the sport as a little kid from the first time i saw him do a backflip. I cant help but wonder what might have been, but at the same time I'm happy that he's happy.
This situation with Kyle Larson is absolutely ridiculous on 2 fronts: 1: The people who continually cry that NASCAR plays favorites with Hendrick. Oh really??? Then why haven’t they got the waiver yet?? 2: How many extra tickets to the Coke 600 were sold because of people wanting to see Larson do the 2nd half of what should 4:28 have been a historic double attempt?? And how much more publicity did this years Coke 600 get because of this? You can bet it was a lot more than usual
Man I miss Carl. Was my favorite driver when I first got into NASCAR. But glad he’s happy and doing well. Definitely deserves it. Would absolutely love to see him come back and do some broadcasting. Come on Dale Jr., let’s get Carl over to Prime or TNT with you.
NASCAR would get huge backlash if they don’t give Larson a waiver. You give them to driver on track for wreck-less actions on the track. Larson did something to improve the sport
I agree with a couple of your points, but I'd make the argument that he did leave his place in the sport. The standard of class, respect, and sportsmanship are those of Carl, both as a competitor against other drivers and teams, and to fans. Part of why Carl was my favorite driver was because of how nice and kind he presented himself to others. He felt like an uncle or next-door neighbor, someone who was a friend to everyone in town and was the nicest person (which is fitting considering he was nicknamed Cousin Carl). There was a feature shown before a race sometime ago that set me on Carl for good, and it was a piece on him giving away trophies to kids with disabilities. To be those kids' hero, take the personal time to make them feel special and like "the man", it's something that will always put tears in my eyes, especially as a kid who was/is on the Autism Spectrum. Would it have been nice to see Carl race longer? Absolutely yes, 100%. But am I happy he decided to retire to spend more time with his family and prevent any injuries that could affect the rest of his life? Yes. And you never know. He may jump in an Xfinity car and do a race or two to have some fun, or he might join the CW broadcast booth. Either way, I know that his impact on the sport I love won't be forgotten, and that (besides his iconic backflip) he's left his own unique story and character to NASCAR.
Definitely agree with the sad smile feeling Eric. I can’t help but compare this to Andrew Luck’s shocking retirement: only 29 years old, threw the 2nd most TDs passes the year prior, improbably made the playoffs after a 1-5 start, beat the Texans in Houston only to sustain a calf injury during the offseason that lingered through the preseason. His wife was pregnant at the time and he chose his family and health over the game he used to love. They both fell out of love with their sport despite being at their peaks and then both disappeared for years after. Much respect to both of them, but when they do pop up I form a gutted smile and will wonder “what if” every single time.
Let’s stop saying Kyle skipped the Coca Cola 600. He made it back and got in the car to finish the 150 laps of the race. He had no intention of skipping the race. He just got unlucky with the weather, and a bad decision by nascar for calling the race when they did.
@@vinceedwards575 yea true, but that’s not what I’m saying. I’m saying, he made an effort to finish the race, and do everything within his power to run the rest of the race.
@@morganpowell2999every thing in his power ….. even though he knew the rules and made the conscious effort to not go to the the 600 knowing he wasn’t going to even get credit for it …..
@@kharnthebetrayer1575 my point is, he was trying to get credit for it. He could’ve said fuck it, race is half over there’s no point of getting on a plane to try and salvage the race. Like I said in the original post, if it wasn’t due to rain and a bad decision by nascar, he wouldn’t have “skipped” the race.
As a fan of Larson myself they better give Larson a playoff waiver. He’s really helped NASCAR and Indy Car by bringing Indy fans to NASCAR. Heck Larson is like Americas best driver
Carl Edwards was my favorite driver before he left. He was the sole reason for me starting to follow Nascar. I became addicted to Nascar because of him. He deserves this honor! I will always love Carl Edwards!
We all know the reason for the rule to start every race to be eligible. It was so you didn't have a 2009 Keselowski or a 2019 Justin Haley or a 2023 SVG taking up a playoff spot they had no intention of running. The waiver gave the ability for situations like driver replacements (Kenseth 2020 or Gibbs 2022) to step up and compete if they ended up winning. It also allowed guys like Busch 2015 to come back from extended injury at a NASCAR event and still be allowed to compete. It was a stop gap for the new rules, since in the old format, the punishment for missing races was no points gained since there was no guaranteed playoff spot. Promoting the Indy-Charlotte double and then punishing the driver for doing it is absolutely ridiculous. Especially when guys can break rules, get suspended, and still be eligible to race in the playoffs.
It would be a joke if Larson doesn’t get a waiver. The Indy 500 and Coke 600 double is a huge feat that brings eyes to both when a champion tries it. Nobody can control the weather and this would seriously discourage any active driver from trying it again.
What I don't get with the Larson waiver deal is in the time he was preparing to run the Indy 500 for about a year now, nobody on his team was having the conversation with Nascar about it? Zero dialogue between the two organization about this Major event and Waivers? The other question I have is about the Charters. With the question of it still being of existence in the future, how is it still of value now? I don't get paying Millions of dollars for something that can be going away...Or did I miss something about the Charters sticking around?
We all talk a lot about athletes who are "washed" and maybe "should have retired earlier." There's sadness when athletes retire when they (or their bodies) have nothing left, but there's also sadness when athletes retire when they still seem on top. Carl Edwards was at the top of his game, which is a rare thing that we should allow more athletes because no full year of success and/or injury free times is guaranteed.
I admire Cousin Carl for doing it his way he had many achievements but he felt it was time to step away concentrate more on his family and it sounds like to me he is a Godly Man
Look, I know he’s an odd veteran, but it is just fucking ridiculous that this playoff waiver debate has lasted this long. Fucking ridiculous. And it needs to end. NASCAR needs to grant Kyle Larson a playoff waiver. If they don’t, it’s gonna be a huge black eye on the sport. NASCAR, Elton Sawyer, if you’re reading this comment, if you don’t grant Kyle Larson a playoff waiver, he could just up and say, “Fuck the rest of this season. I’m gonna go do some other type of race.” Do you really want your best all around talent up and saying, “Fuck this - I’m gonna go do something else”? Is that really what you want? Kyle Larson is going to win more races this season, unless his performance falls off a cliff, which, there’s pretty much a non zero chance that happens. There’s no doubt about that. I agree with Eric. Do you really wanna carry the narrative of “Oh, Kyle Larson is having himself a really good season - too bad he can’t win the championship” into the summer months of the season? This is a ridiculous debate over petty bullshit, and it’s a bad look for NASCAR, and it needs to conclude as soon as humanly possible. NASCAR, do the right thing. Grant Kyle Larson a playoff waiver.
To me, the fact that both series chose to promote Larson doing the double answers the question of whether or not he should get a waiver. It’s good for racing overall, not just Indycar or NASCAR. They should encourage drivers from both sides to try this. I’ve heard that Blaney wants to run Indy with one of the Penske Indy drivers running Charlotte; that’s awesome. Racing in general is struggling to attract new fans and cross promotion seems like a good, fresh way to generate some buzz. I love racing in all forms and think it’s great to see guys try something outside of their normal specialty. I understand that rules are rules but if a driver can work it out with their teams and sponsors, let them race! Not for something at a lower level, but if someone wants to run Indy or Le Mans or some other top tier event, that just brings more attention overall. To me, this points out a major flaw in a rule and that rule should be amended, especially in light of the win and you’re in playoffs. I don’t think anyone wins by being territorial and NASCAR looks a bit silly right now.
Carl Edwards is a really cool guy, always flying under the radar, he has been to my K1 Speed Work location in Missouri multiple times and always under the radar, I got the chance to have a short conversation with him and snag a picture and he is so very humble and just an all around great guy. He is also very fast! Top 2% of times at our location on his first visit. An amazing person
The difference is that those other drivers didn't even have the ability to race all of those races and some of them being because of NASCAR themselves. Larson had the option and still chose not to. This better fits the definition of the rule more than any of the other examples we've seen so far. That being said, he couldn't control the weather and without it he would have made both events. It's not like he said "fuck NASCAR" to run World of Outlaws or the Detroit Grand Prix. He was running the ultimate crown jewel race in the Indy 500 and that would have normally allowed him to get back in time for his own race.
I think this waiver situation has a clear answer. Larson didn't intend to miss the race in Charlotte. He intended to take his shot at history. It was due to reasons out of his control (weather) he was unable to race in Charlotte. If someone were to blatantly miss a NASCAR race when they were fully able to not miss it, that's different. Larson planned on getting to Charlotte before the race and was prepared to show up soon enough and actually did show up soon enough to get in the car. It was not his fault he was unable to make any laps. Also, NASCAR gives playoff waivers to drivers that were suspended for dangerous and reckless behavior on the track. If those drivers get waivers, Larson 100% should get one
He was FULLY able to not miss it. His primary job for his team and sponsors is to be a Cup driver. He was doing a one off for the Indy 500. Yes it's prestigious but he made a CHOICE to stay in Indy instead of leaving to make the start of the 600, a race that he and all of HMS knew was technically a requirement to make. It was 100% his fault he didn't make it to Charlotte. He could have left Indy.
I am so happy that you mentioned Kyle Busch’s waiver he received in his championship season. Dude missed 11 races, yet still remained eligible. No one seems to remember that. If he is worthy of a waiver after that, Larson surely is! Uggh
They should have made the decision prior to the 500 and 600. If it were to come to that scenario they would choose to give or not give the waiver. I would imagine the the exposure for Nascar a year leading up to that day was felt. It's a massive promotion for their sport to show their driver's can compete anywhere at any time, basically legitimacy to the level they compete and can compete.
@@gavynhohon2818listen, the full history of the term and the fact that the divergence is about as old if older than most of them escapes the people who keep saying this. They'd probably also think Late Models aren't also stock cars per the racing term, so...
Here's my issue with everyone arguing in favor of the waiver. Your arguments are entirely opinion based and sets a precedent of "rules for thee, not for me". Regardless of NASCAR's decision, they need to go in and re-wrote the waiver rule so it is clearly defined and cannot leave any wiggle room for interpretation or how the right/wrong person is feeling to wave judgement at that time.
In my opinion, there isn’t a good reason to deny him a waiver after they’ve handed them out for people missing races for non NASCAR related injuries and for people getting suspended. If they’d only handed them out for NASCAR related injuries and COVID, there would be a very good argument for denying him the waiver. But they’ve handed them out like candy.
I agree with your sadness about Carl, It was great to see him, but I'm with you. Harping on the what if? It would be great if JR can pick him up in the booth with Prime next year. Also. enough of the wasted time frame of the waiver. Just do it already and grant him his playoff spot. The man has won a race, is competitive every week and Nascar promoted the whole exchange. Its not like he didn't try to get back in the car. They had a camera following him the whole time! What would it look like if a casual fan from Indy decided to check out Nascar, because of Larson and he not able fight for a championship. Casual fans would be upset or not understand, the entire promotion of the double would be for nothing.
Have they ever not granted a waiver? Kinda stupid to start now with so many eyes on the sport with a guy that’s almost a guarantee for a deep playoff run.
I think it would be a mistake to set the expectation that NASCAR must be the priority. At some point in time, a talented driver like Larson could test NASCAR on that stance and make NASCAR look absolutely ridiculous if the driver led the series in wins but wasn't eligible for the championship because weather prevented them from getting to a race on time.
It doesn’t leave an asterisk… they deliberately didn’t follow the rules and they should pay for it. Then fix the rules for next year if it’s that big of a deal.
NASCAR excluding Larson from the playoffs would be an even bigger PR flop than missing an opportunity to capture the entire racing world on Monday morning with Kyle shredding the field in the final 150 laps.
Wonder if Carl can still do that flip I miss seeing Edward’s driving. I believe he would’ve had a championship or 2 by know if he stayed. I’m very happy he’s satisfied and happy. That’s what matters.
The waiver rule came about because of the "win and you're in" format. They didn't want someone to win then sit out the rest of the season until the "playoffs". That would never happen, but that was their answer to an unlikely problem. They've basically given so many waivers in the past that it has become a toothless rule - they'd be better to get rid of it.
Carl Edwards looking like an absolute snack. Seems to be living a good life and is happy with that. Got out with his health intact and made HOF. Good on him. Would love to see him run a Trucks race or something again, but doesn’t look like that’s gonna happen.
I like the playoffs, adds suspense. However it’s really just a huge gimmick. You’re telling me one of the most talented drivers in nascar history isn’t going to make the playoffs due to rain?
I don’t understand when athletes retire early and say they “need to spend time with their family”. They race 36 weekends, but are not involved in racing 7 days a week for 36 weeks. They also get 16 weeks when they are not racing weekends and probably not doing much with their teams. What about people with families that work 10 hours a day, plus commute 5 days a week and maybe only get 2,3,4 weeks vacation? Anyway it’s just something that I don’t like hearing.
@@johnhaas2523 not true at all. I’ve heard many drivers say that they are not at the shop much at all during the week. Sure sponsor stuff which a lot of that is done at the track when the sponsors are there. Competition meeting either Monday or Tuesday that lasts maybe an hour. They do not put in full days during the week. Watch a few “day in the life” that pare out there. I’ve seen Larson, Logano, Hamlin and Almirola. Lots of at home time. It’s all stuff that I’ve seen drivers say. Where do you get 7 days a week from?
Larson made a huge attempt, had the race gone back green he would have been fine. Not entirely his fault. Grant him a waiver. I can’t believe that all scenarios as such weren’t discussed weeks prior to these events as specifically knowing there was rain in the forecast.
Larson made his choice when the situation presented an either-or dilemma. Sure, can't control the weather, but he could have been at the start of the race if he decided to. While the whole waiver system is dumb. Maybe they should finally enforce it if they don't plan on getting rid of it. Everyone else that received a waiver has been hurt in some way or sick or something. However, those people never made the active decision to be at another race. I saw Larson shouldn't get one. Follow the rule as intended as once or get rid of it.
There is a similarity between Carl Edwards and Nico Rosberg. Both drivers retired after competing for their series championship in the 2016 season. Fans clamor for both drivers to return in some way, shape or form. Both drivers have dabbled in sim racing. The only difference is that one won their Drivers Championship and the other didn't.
If Mr.H, arguably one of the most powerful people in NASCAR, personally told Larson to stay at Indy and race, I can rather confidently say he had to have already talked to someone high up at NASCAR and got conformation that Larson would still be playoff eligible.
I personally am not the biggest fan of NASCAR, but I am a huge fan of motorsports as a whole and my dad is a diehard NASCAR fan. I think you summed up my sentiment about Carl perfectly. I didn't follow him at all when he was driving so I can only imagine what if? whenever he is mentioned.
There is nothing wrong with Carl walking away from the sport for family. I love NASCAR, but family should come first. Our lost, but his family gain. Good for him. If a driver gets a wavier while being suspended, Kyle should get one
They should just throw the whole waiver crap out the window if they give him one. What's the point of having a rule if you are going to ignore it for trivial reasons. It was his choice to go play somewhere else. It's basically saying you don't have to show up to race if you don't want to or have better things to do than race in NASCAR.
what i think will happen is Nascar will grant Larson a waiver, but give him a points penalty. yes he dropped to 3rd in the standings but he’s only -6 points to Hamlin. But Nascar is doing this for attention, they planned to promote the double all this week but since it didn’t happen they are doing this
Nascar should be cautious and grant waivers. Otherwise, Larson could always wave goodbye to Nascar and go full time Indy car racing. I'm sure they would love to have him.
If Carl left because of that last race, I wouldn't blame him in the slightest. I know that, in his shoes, I'd have come to a similar conclusion. It was a bad call and it felt like the culmination of a bad series of calls that never seemed to fall his way. It would be hard not to feel like NASCAR had it out for me, and even if, upon reflection, I realized that they didn't, I'd feel like I made the right call. Doing anything with a chip on your shoulder, feeling like the world is against you, is a very good way to end up burning out and hating the things you love. I can absolutely respect his desire to step away, regardless of why he did it. Health is a perfectly valid reason. That what if will always hang heavy in the air whenever his name comes up, but you can't deny that he went out on top, and on his own terms. Not many drivers can say that.
The waiver issue is a non-issue. He gets it. They knew his plan for 6 months. He was completely transparent. He made every effort to compete in both events. The weather bit him. End of story.
Weather is really the only reason this is even a thing right now...only drama left is because they got to fill out the proper paper work just to make things official... But they should have already granted the waiver last year...
this could set a dangerous precedence if he is allowed to take part in the playoffs it leaves door wide open for drivers do skip more races and go do other stuff, other series wich will keep devalue the product of NASCAR.. remember sponsors, TV, teams and fans spends money to see their drivers and teams they support race every NASCAR race not just some races, if this is allowed anyone can miss races for basicly any reason aslong they claim they wanted or intended to do both, the" kyle larson rule"
The only problem with your augment is that Drivers have received playoff wavers after being suspended for intentionally causing accidents on track which could endanger their fellow competitors. And as Eric has said in this particular video NASCAR has given playoff wavers for drivers who have intentionally caused an accident. Giving drivers who have intentionally caused accidents playoff wavers devalues the sport much more than having Kyle Larson running the indy 500 because NASCAR is basically saying that you have intentionally caused accident on track, could of hurt the driver that they have wrecked and could of hurt another driver who had nothing to do with what was happening between that driver and the driver that they intentionally wrecked because they were unhappy about what happened. Those drivers who intentionally cause accidents in order to retaliate should never receive a playoff waver. Like Eric said head injuries are very serious indeed. Just ask Dale Earnhardt Jr. and Kurt Busch. Also, having big name drivers out because they are recovering from a very serious injury isn’t good for the sport. That would hurt NASCAR much more than having a driver running the Indy 500.
Why did they ever change the eligibility rule from having to qualify(or attempt to qualify) for every race to having to race in every race to be eligible? I genuinely can't remember.
Does anyone remember or have the sound bite of him saying "I call it whining" after a wteck between Carl Edwards & Dale Jarrett at the end of the Aug MI race (i don't remember the year). This was a huge sound bite after the race & for a few weeks but it must not have been that big because i can't find it anywhere!!!
NASCAR likes the attention and the drama. They're just going to drag it out because it creates a storyline. In my opinion, the entire waiver rule just needs to be scrapped. You avoid the situation of part-time teams make it into the playoffs by requiring that a team cannot qualify for the playoffs unless they're in the top 20 in points. That eliminates the guy that goes and wins a race that's 35th in points from making the playoffs, where he has no business being. It also stops part-timers from making a playoff run. Or just flat out get rid of the win and you're in rule. If NASCAR wants to avoid driver skipping races then they can just dock some points for doing so. I think that's fair. If you skip a race intentionally, you're docked 25 points or whatever.
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I'd love to see Carl come back in a broadcasting position. He's well spoken, knows the sport, loves the fans, he's perfect for the role.
It is a real possibility with all the new broadcast partners wanting to make a splash
I'd like him to do that, be another Ned Jarrett who retired early and has that well-spoken and gentleman-like attitude. If there ever was a guy that could be another "Gentleman Ned" it's "Cousin Carl".
Nascar made him rich and then he bounced. He should not come back
He and Dale Jr in the booth together, that's a race I'd like to hear
Agreed he’s perfect for the role but he’s giving something else 100%. He can’t give both things the attention they would need.
Carl was a good representative of what it is to race in NASCAR
What is was
No he wasn’t he tried to kill Brad K twice and was a notorious hot head. Why are people getting nostalgic about him?
@@connorbingel71342010-2014 Brad K was just as much a hot heat at times too. Don’t forget, before Edward’s spun Brad both times (Atlanta flip, Gateway crash), Brad had previously gotten into Edward’s, at Atlanta he ruined Carls day and at Gateway it was a battle for the lead.
@@connorbingel7134okay, Brad tried to kill Gordon, Kyle Busch, Logano, and numerous others based on your logic. Okay?
@@connorbingel7134 mutual combat between BK and Cousin Carl. I recall Carl getting out of a destroyed car and running across the finish line, Ricky Bobby style
This waiver stuff needs to stop and now
Shouldn’t take this long
Give yung money a waiver :P
@Farkle_8000 could involve legal troubles with other teams pressing the issues
They just want to keep you/us in suspense lol give people something to talk about during the week
NASCAR isn’t saying anything and they won’t! The same thing happened when Kyle Busch broke his leg several years ago and had to apply for a waiver. There is a hearing that must take place, and commenting about it before then would be a stupid move on their part. Everyone in the garage knows he will get a wavier since he was in the car ready to go before NASCAR called the race. People should stop expecting to hear anything until a waver hearing takes place.
Yea no waiver. Keep it simple. No bending the rules without a medical or family emergency.
I totally agree, it is a sad smile thinking of what could have been if Carl Edwards had stayed. I will always miss his backflips off the car!
Carl was the modern day Mark Martin. He did his best. Comfortable in his own skin, and did not need the trappings to validate himself. Carl was a fierce competitor. Go back to his first win battling Jimmie Johnson and you will see his talent on full display. He did it his way. He owns it like a man does. Love or hate him, he was a great talent. Period.
Thank you for saying that. As a die hard Carl fan to this day i am happy to see people see what is the truth.
Very well said. I greatly miss him, but I totally understand his reasons for leaving when he did.
Yeah, but Mark Martin was never cheated out of a championship
@@og_tc actually, he was. In 1990, Mark was penalized for having a carb spacer that was bolted on instead of welded on. That infraction, which made no difference in the performance of his car at all, gave Earnhardt Sr. the Championship
I miss them both. Mark was my driver, then Carl, now Truex, Jr. Then what am I going to do when Truex leaves.😱 It's so unfair 🥺
It's always best to leave when you're on top of your game.
Carl Edwards always did one thing that I thought was the ultimate show respect ,
He always took off his sunglasses when he was being interviewed.
I love this message from a Carl. He didn't achieve everything and yet he is completely fulfilled. The world could learn that lesson a lot more
NASCAR is just milking this waiver thing for drama. Of course they will give Larson a waiver. He has many fans and is one of the best
My thoughts exactly
NASCAR has a Netflix show. So it’s a story line for that. It’s going to be its own episode.
HMS hasn’t even applied for the GD wavier…… so it’s HMS stirring up the drama . 0:06
@@kharnthebetrayer1575they literally did yesterday💀💀
we're all just anxious because Nascar cannot be trusted to make the right decisions.
I would LOVE to have Carl Edward's in the broadcasting booth. ❤
He made his choice, he should stay on the farm. He broke the hearts of Jack and the fans the real fans buried hem.
@norme268 jack? He drove for Gibbs when he left?
@@NeedsLessWedgeyes
No room in the booth
@@NeedsLessWedge brainfart,lol
This shouldn’t even be a debate. Larson was used in Marketing for both nascar and Indycar. He should get a playoff waiver because he’s one of the best and has soooo many fans
It really is marketing. So who cares if rain at Charlotte, he was at least there at the track and ready to swap with Alliger.
@@whoswiss exactly!
While I think he should get the waiver... "He should get a playoff waiver because he’s one of the best and has soooo many fans" isn't a valid reason why. Larson knew full well that the requirement to start all races existed, he made his choice. However, NASCAR allowing him to run Indy in the first place is all Larson needs to make a case for getting a waiver.
His popularity is not the reason he should get a waiver
Not just that he already has two wins and he had every attention to run the coca cola 600 it was just the weather ruined him continuing what's left in the coca cola 600
Hey, you must also realize Carl's wife is a is a physician who works with patients with traumatic and severe brain injuries. I sure her work as a doctor played a part in his early retirement along with Dale Jr. head injury status during the 2016 season.
Harry Gant should be in the hall of fame
He will probably go in next year. I don’t think there will be any drivers with better l stats to him on next year’s list besides Jeff Burton.
Him along with Ernie Irvan and Sterling Marlin.
If Nascar denies Larson he should finish the year driving a Indy car.
lol that'll never happen
Honestly, Larson and Hendrick should do everything in their power to win the most races and lead the championship at the end of the regular season by as large of margin as possible. That way if he’s denied, NASCAR would have to try and explain it to new and old fans. I think all the fans would unite at that point.
You gonna pay that bill?
@@vinceedwards575 A lot cheaper than NASCAR.
The 5 is still leading the points and can still win Owners title regardless of driver points or a waiver. Owners champion is what pays the bills. Just like in 2022 the 5 team was in the final 4 but Larson wasn't as a driver.
Carl's interview to me sounds like if he had won the 2016 championship, he would've run the 2017 season because of obligation, but probably would've regretted it afterwards and retired after 2017.
He'd only run again because he'd want to defend his title. If he didn't, he'd retire after 2017 like he'd been thinking of doing pre 2016
I don’t blame Carl for leaving NASCAR. Especially with how NASCAR is with the previous management and current management
Carl Edwards would be perfect for the booth
Congratulations to Carl Edwards on getting into the NASCAR Hall of Fame.
Enjoyed that conversation. Carl was my favorite for a variety of reason. I agree with you it is a sad kind of feeling when he left.
As a die hard Carl Edwards fan I am super happy to see him touch base with the Nascar fan base again. I love how he handled the interview and even happier to see hi mfinally admit his feelings toward Nascar's handling of the 2016 finale. I think he would be a perfect fit for the broadcast booth and hope NBC or FOX takes him seriously.
I was a very passionate fan of Carl Edwards; He deserved two cup championships. IMHO. King of the backflips
He has 79 wins across the three major series which shocked me but then i think about that Busch car #60 and he had that thing going. I dont think anyone has the right to dictate how another man walks away from his chosen career, he did what he felt was right and that should be good enough.
❓ Why do we like Eric, more than Race Hub, more than NBC (does NBC even cover NASCAR before their half-year?).
_This_ _video_ is why we like Eric. He speaks for fans and the integrity of the sport, and he doesn't shill for NASCAR or corporate interests. This was a great segment. 🏁🏆
Harry Gant should be in the NASCAR Hall of Fame.
We all know Carl Edwards really retired because of THE PROPHECYYY
please explain.....??
What kind of prophecy?🤔
@@clintbroussard3765reference to one of Eric's old NASCAR diecast parodies
@@clintbroussard3765 look up the video “the real reason Carl Edwards Retired” by Eric, that’ll explain it for you
Go watch the NASCAR parodies Eric made :)
I took Edwards's comment that NASCAR is like professional wrestling and that they have their hand in the outcome.
NASCAR has basically lost all of it's legitimacy. If you are popular or they think that you can make them money the rules don't apply to you as much.
Yep they do. Gotta make bookies happy. Rule says drivers and teams can't manipulate the outcome of the race. But no rule against NASCAR manipulating the hell out of it. And now they have three stages to manipulate per "race"
Eric, you're without question the best in the business
Carl Edwards was my guy when he raced. I am excited for him to be a Hall of fame inductee. Wishing him all the best
Hey Eric! I solved the problem! Apply for a waiver prior to the activity that may require a waiver. Excluding unpredictable circumstances of course like injuries. Want to do the Indy 500? Apply for a waiver. Birth of your child coming up? Apply for a waiver. Need elective surgery? Apply for a waiver. Want to run Le Mans? Apply for a waiver. It would show NASCAR’s commitment to safety AND This would help legitimize NASCAR as the top Motorsport circuit in the world due to it’s long schedule and willingness to allow dominant drivers to compete in other series.
@@johnhaas2523 I am pointing out that this should be how it’s done moving forward.
I can say that the most likely reason he quit when he did was due to concerns his wife had. Shes a doctor and understood back then how bad concussions were and I'm positive she had many long talks with Carl about his health and chances of getting hurt seriously driving in stock cars. Out of his respect and love for her me made that hard decision. That explanation makes complete sense and I can respect him for it. But, now that hes opened that door by saying " I had fun calling the race and maybe I' like to come back to do that." Amazon NBC and Fox have all contacted him about that position already at this point. My guess is that Amazon will win and you will see Carl along side Dale Jr calling races on Amazon Prime next year. You hear it here first folks!
10:23 I think you just perfectly summed up how I and a lot of other fans feel. Carl was always one of the sports best personalities and he was my favorite driver as i got into the sport as a little kid from the first time i saw him do a backflip. I cant help but wonder what might have been, but at the same time I'm happy that he's happy.
Carl Edwards is one of the most respectable men I’ve ever had the pleasure of listening to and watching
This situation with Kyle Larson is absolutely ridiculous on 2 fronts:
1: The people who continually cry that NASCAR plays favorites with Hendrick. Oh really??? Then why haven’t they got the waiver yet??
2: How many extra tickets to the Coke 600 were sold because of people wanting to see Larson do the 2nd half of what should 4:28 have been a historic double attempt?? And how much more publicity did this years Coke 600 get because of this? You can bet it was a lot more than usual
Man I miss Carl. Was my favorite driver when I first got into NASCAR. But glad he’s happy and doing well. Definitely deserves it. Would absolutely love to see him come back and do some broadcasting. Come on Dale Jr., let’s get Carl over to Prime or TNT with you.
NASCAR would get huge backlash if they don’t give Larson a waiver. You give them to driver on track for wreck-less actions on the track. Larson did something to improve the sport
From the way the Coke 600 ended Sunday night to this whole waiver problem, definitely hasnt been the best week for NASCAR
Anything cousin Carl wants to do, with NASCAR will always be fully supported. Love cousin Carl
Eric. I’m not a Larson fan but I absolutely agree with you. Give Larson the waver. Now
I agree with a couple of your points, but I'd make the argument that he did leave his place in the sport.
The standard of class, respect, and sportsmanship are those of Carl, both as a competitor against other drivers and teams, and to fans.
Part of why Carl was my favorite driver was because of how nice and kind he presented himself to others. He felt like an uncle or next-door neighbor, someone who was a friend to everyone in town and was the nicest person (which is fitting considering he was nicknamed Cousin Carl). There was a feature shown before a race sometime ago that set me on Carl for good, and it was a piece on him giving away trophies to kids with disabilities. To be those kids' hero, take the personal time to make them feel special and like "the man", it's something that will always put tears in my eyes, especially as a kid who was/is on the Autism Spectrum.
Would it have been nice to see Carl race longer? Absolutely yes, 100%. But am I happy he decided to retire to spend more time with his family and prevent any injuries that could affect the rest of his life? Yes. And you never know. He may jump in an Xfinity car and do a race or two to have some fun, or he might join the CW broadcast booth.
Either way, I know that his impact on the sport I love won't be forgotten, and that (besides his iconic backflip) he's left his own unique story and character to NASCAR.
I grant you, that Larsson stayed in Indianapolis only after, Rick personally spoke with NASCAR top dawgs. Period
@@johnhaas2523 well, you got the idea
It’s almost a certainty they got the all clear before making such a decision.
Definitely agree with the sad smile feeling Eric. I can’t help but compare this to Andrew Luck’s shocking retirement: only 29 years old, threw the 2nd most TDs passes the year prior, improbably made the playoffs after a 1-5 start, beat the Texans in Houston only to sustain a calf injury during the offseason that lingered through the preseason. His wife was pregnant at the time and he chose his family and health over the game he used to love. They both fell out of love with their sport despite being at their peaks and then both disappeared for years after.
Much respect to both of them, but when they do pop up I form a gutted smile and will wonder “what if” every single time.
Good comparison
Im gonna make a prediction, if NASCAR denies larson a waiver, then Hendrick is gonna take some sort of legal action or protest against it.
Let’s stop saying Kyle skipped the Coca Cola 600. He made it back and got in the car to finish the 150 laps of the race. He had no intention of skipping the race. He just got unlucky with the weather, and a bad decision by nascar for calling the race when they did.
He was not there to start the race.
@@vinceedwards575 yea true, but that’s not what I’m saying. I’m saying, he made an effort to finish the race, and do everything within his power to run the rest of the race.
@@morganpowell2999every thing in his power ….. even though he knew the rules and made the conscious effort to not go to the the 600 knowing he wasn’t going to even get credit for it …..
@@kharnthebetrayer1575 my point is, he was trying to get credit for it. He could’ve said fuck it, race is half over there’s no point of getting on a plane to try and salvage the race. Like I said in the original post, if it wasn’t due to rain and a bad decision by nascar, he wouldn’t have “skipped” the race.
@@morganpowell2999 So what part of "must start the race" do you not understand?
Eric, great comments on the Carl situation. Most don't mention that his wife is a doctor.
Edwards in the booth would be epic, I hope somebody picks him up for 2025 or 2026.
Hed punch some smug like Mike Joy in the face
As a fan of Larson myself they better give Larson a playoff waiver.
He’s really helped NASCAR and Indy Car by bringing Indy fans to NASCAR. Heck Larson is like Americas best driver
Carl Edwards was my favorite driver before he left. He was the sole reason for me starting to follow Nascar. I became addicted to Nascar because of him. He deserves this honor! I will always love Carl Edwards!
We all know the reason for the rule to start every race to be eligible. It was so you didn't have a 2009 Keselowski or a 2019 Justin Haley or a 2023 SVG taking up a playoff spot they had no intention of running. The waiver gave the ability for situations like driver replacements (Kenseth 2020 or Gibbs 2022) to step up and compete if they ended up winning. It also allowed guys like Busch 2015 to come back from extended injury at a NASCAR event and still be allowed to compete. It was a stop gap for the new rules, since in the old format, the punishment for missing races was no points gained since there was no guaranteed playoff spot.
Promoting the Indy-Charlotte double and then punishing the driver for doing it is absolutely ridiculous. Especially when guys can break rules, get suspended, and still be eligible to race in the playoffs.
It would be a joke if Larson doesn’t get a waiver. The Indy 500 and Coke 600 double is a huge feat that brings eyes to both when a champion tries it. Nobody can control the weather and this would seriously discourage any active driver from trying it again.
What I don't get with the Larson waiver deal is in the time he was preparing to run the Indy 500 for about a year now, nobody on his team was having the conversation with Nascar about it? Zero dialogue between the two organization about this Major event and Waivers? The other question I have is about the Charters. With the question of it still being of existence in the future, how is it still of value now? I don't get paying Millions of dollars for something that can be going away...Or did I miss something about the Charters sticking around?
We all talk a lot about athletes who are "washed" and maybe "should have retired earlier." There's sadness when athletes retire when they (or their bodies) have nothing left, but there's also sadness when athletes retire when they still seem on top. Carl Edwards was at the top of his game, which is a rare thing that we should allow more athletes because no full year of success and/or injury free times is guaranteed.
I admire Cousin Carl for doing it his way he had many achievements but he felt it was time to step away concentrate more on his family and it sounds like to me he is a Godly Man
Love the Lord and his family
Look, I know he’s an odd veteran, but it is just fucking ridiculous that this playoff waiver debate has lasted this long. Fucking ridiculous. And it needs to end. NASCAR needs to grant Kyle Larson a playoff waiver.
If they don’t, it’s gonna be a huge black eye on the sport.
NASCAR, Elton Sawyer, if you’re reading this comment, if you don’t grant Kyle Larson a playoff waiver, he could just up and say, “Fuck the rest of this season. I’m gonna go do some other type of race.”
Do you really want your best all around talent up and saying, “Fuck this - I’m gonna go do something else”? Is that really what you want?
Kyle Larson is going to win more races this season, unless his performance falls off a cliff, which, there’s pretty much a non zero chance that happens. There’s no doubt about that.
I agree with Eric. Do you really wanna carry the narrative of “Oh, Kyle Larson is having himself a really good season - too bad he can’t win the championship” into the summer months of the season?
This is a ridiculous debate over petty bullshit, and it’s a bad look for NASCAR, and it needs to conclude as soon as humanly possible.
NASCAR, do the right thing. Grant Kyle Larson a playoff waiver.
To me, the fact that both series chose to promote Larson doing the double answers the question of whether or not he should get a waiver. It’s good for racing overall, not just Indycar or NASCAR. They should encourage drivers from both sides to try this. I’ve heard that Blaney wants to run Indy with one of the Penske Indy drivers running Charlotte; that’s awesome. Racing in general is struggling to attract new fans and cross promotion seems like a good, fresh way to generate some buzz. I love racing in all forms and think it’s great to see guys try something outside of their normal specialty. I understand that rules are rules but if a driver can work it out with their teams and sponsors, let them race! Not for something at a lower level, but if someone wants to run Indy or Le Mans or some other top tier event, that just brings more attention overall. To me, this points out a major flaw in a rule and that rule should be amended, especially in light of the win and you’re in playoffs. I don’t think anyone wins by being territorial and NASCAR looks a bit silly right now.
Carl Edwards is a really cool guy, always flying under the radar, he has been to my K1 Speed Work location in Missouri multiple times and always under the radar, I got the chance to have a short conversation with him and snag a picture and he is so very humble and just an all around great guy. He is also very fast! Top 2% of times at our location on his first visit. An amazing person
The difference is that those other drivers didn't even have the ability to race all of those races and some of them being because of NASCAR themselves. Larson had the option and still chose not to. This better fits the definition of the rule more than any of the other examples we've seen so far.
That being said, he couldn't control the weather and without it he would have made both events. It's not like he said "fuck NASCAR" to run World of Outlaws or the Detroit Grand Prix. He was running the ultimate crown jewel race in the Indy 500 and that would have normally allowed him to get back in time for his own race.
I think this waiver situation has a clear answer. Larson didn't intend to miss the race in Charlotte. He intended to take his shot at history. It was due to reasons out of his control (weather) he was unable to race in Charlotte. If someone were to blatantly miss a NASCAR race when they were fully able to not miss it, that's different. Larson planned on getting to Charlotte before the race and was prepared to show up soon enough and actually did show up soon enough to get in the car. It was not his fault he was unable to make any laps. Also, NASCAR gives playoff waivers to drivers that were suspended for dangerous and reckless behavior on the track. If those drivers get waivers, Larson 100% should get one
AMEN
He was FULLY able to not miss it. His primary job for his team and sponsors is to be a Cup driver. He was doing a one off for the Indy 500. Yes it's prestigious but he made a CHOICE to stay in Indy instead of leaving to make the start of the 600, a race that he and all of HMS knew was technically a requirement to make. It was 100% his fault he didn't make it to Charlotte. He could have left Indy.
I am so happy that you mentioned Kyle Busch’s waiver he received in his championship season. Dude missed 11 races, yet still remained eligible. No one seems to remember that. If he is worthy of a waiver after that, Larson surely is! Uggh
They should have made the decision prior to the 500 and 600. If it were to come to that scenario they would choose to give or not give the waiver. I would imagine the the exposure for Nascar a year leading up to that day was felt. It's a massive promotion for their sport to show their driver's can compete anywhere at any time, basically legitimacy to the level they compete and can compete.
NASCAR should request a waiver for false advertising "STOCK CARS"
National Association of SPEC Car Racing
@@frederickwstrawitchiii3329 NAStCAR 'National Association of SPEC truck Car Racing"
There’s a difference between a stock car and a car that is stock.
Spoken like a true dumbass Larson fan
@@gavynhohon2818listen, the full history of the term and the fact that the divergence is about as old if older than most of them escapes the people who keep saying this.
They'd probably also think Late Models aren't also stock cars per the racing term, so...
Here's my issue with everyone arguing in favor of the waiver. Your arguments are entirely opinion based and sets a precedent of "rules for thee, not for me". Regardless of NASCAR's decision, they need to go in and re-wrote the waiver rule so it is clearly defined and cannot leave any wiggle room for interpretation or how the right/wrong person is feeling to wave judgement at that time.
In my opinion, there isn’t a good reason to deny him a waiver after they’ve handed them out for people missing races for non NASCAR related injuries and for people getting suspended. If they’d only handed them out for NASCAR related injuries and COVID, there would be a very good argument for denying him the waiver. But they’ve handed them out like candy.
Just give everyone 1 waiver coupon at season start to use as they please having a rule and never enforcing it is kinda stupid
I agree with your sadness about Carl, It was great to see him, but I'm with you. Harping on the what if? It would be great if JR can pick him up in the booth with Prime next year. Also. enough of the wasted time frame of the waiver. Just do it already and grant him his playoff spot. The man has won a race, is competitive every week and Nascar promoted the whole exchange. Its not like he didn't try to get back in the car. They had a camera following him the whole time! What would it look like if a casual fan from Indy decided to check out Nascar, because of Larson and he not able fight for a championship. Casual fans would be upset or not understand, the entire promotion of the double would be for nothing.
Have they ever not granted a waiver? Kinda stupid to start now with so many eyes on the sport with a guy that’s almost a guarantee for a deep playoff run.
Larson should have gotten permission before hand. He wasn't injured, so he should not have a wavier.
Larson should not race for a title. He skipped the 600 for the Indy 500. The 5 is his main job
I think it would be a mistake to set the expectation that NASCAR must be the priority. At some point in time, a talented driver like Larson could test NASCAR on that stance and make NASCAR look absolutely ridiculous if the driver led the series in wins but wasn't eligible for the championship because weather prevented them from getting to a race on time.
It doesn’t leave an asterisk… they deliberately didn’t follow the rules and they should pay for it. Then fix the rules for next year if it’s that big of a deal.
NASCAR excluding Larson from the playoffs would be an even bigger PR flop than missing an opportunity to capture the entire racing world on Monday morning with Kyle shredding the field in the final 150 laps.
Oh. i thought rain was predicted for Monday.
Wonder if Carl can still do that flip
I miss seeing Edward’s driving. I believe he would’ve had a championship or 2 by know if he stayed. I’m very happy he’s satisfied and happy. That’s what matters.
The waiver rule came about because of the "win and you're in" format. They didn't want someone to win then sit out the rest of the season until the "playoffs". That would never happen, but that was their answer to an unlikely problem.
They've basically given so many waivers in the past that it has become a toothless rule - they'd be better to get rid of it.
Carl Edwards looking like an absolute snack. Seems to be living a good life and is happy with that. Got out with his health intact and made HOF. Good on him. Would love to see him run a Trucks race or something again, but doesn’t look like that’s gonna happen.
I like the playoffs, adds suspense. However it’s really just a huge gimmick. You’re telling me one of the most talented drivers in nascar history isn’t going to make the playoffs due to rain?
They need to allow teams to try the double. And also try to get indycar drivers to do the same
Carl was smart to walk away when he did. Healthy,wealthly,and wise
I agree with you wholeheartedly, great blog ! Out of grove , the best !
I don’t understand when athletes retire early and say they “need to spend time with their family”. They race 36 weekends, but are not involved in racing 7 days a week for 36 weeks. They also get 16 weeks when they are not racing weekends and probably not doing much with their teams. What about people with families that work 10 hours a day, plus commute 5 days a week and maybe only get 2,3,4 weeks vacation? Anyway it’s just something that I don’t like hearing.
@@johnhaas2523 not true at all. I’ve heard many drivers say that they are not at the shop much at all during the week. Sure sponsor stuff which a lot of that is done at the track when the sponsors are there. Competition meeting either Monday or Tuesday that lasts maybe an hour. They do not put in full days during the week. Watch a few “day in the life” that pare out there. I’ve seen Larson, Logano, Hamlin and Almirola. Lots of at home time. It’s all stuff that I’ve seen drivers say. Where do you get 7 days a week from?
Larson made a huge attempt, had the race gone back green he would have been fine. Not entirely his fault. Grant him a waiver. I can’t believe that all scenarios as such weren’t discussed weeks prior to these events as specifically knowing there was rain in the forecast.
Hey just letting you know your awesome been following you for 5 years now.
Please please please racing gods! Carl Edward and Dale Jr in the booth!!!
Larson made his choice when the situation presented an either-or dilemma. Sure, can't control the weather, but he could have been at the start of the race if he decided to. While the whole waiver system is dumb. Maybe they should finally enforce it if they don't plan on getting rid of it. Everyone else that received a waiver has been hurt in some way or sick or something. However, those people never made the active decision to be at another race. I saw Larson shouldn't get one. Follow the rule as intended as once or get rid of it.
There is a similarity between Carl Edwards and Nico Rosberg. Both drivers retired after competing for their series championship in the 2016 season. Fans clamor for both drivers to return in some way, shape or form. Both drivers have dabbled in sim racing.
The only difference is that one won their Drivers Championship and the other didn't.
If Mr.H, arguably one of the most powerful people in NASCAR, personally told Larson to stay at Indy and race, I can rather confidently say he had to have already talked to someone high up at NASCAR and got conformation that Larson would still be playoff eligible.
I personally am not the biggest fan of NASCAR, but I am a huge fan of motorsports as a whole and my dad is a diehard NASCAR fan. I think you summed up my sentiment about Carl perfectly. I didn't follow him at all when he was driving so I can only imagine what if? whenever he is mentioned.
There is nothing wrong with Carl walking away from the sport for family. I love NASCAR, but family should come first. Our lost, but his family gain. Good for him.
If a driver gets a wavier while being suspended, Kyle should get one
They should just throw the whole waiver crap out the window if they give him one. What's the point of having a rule if you are going to ignore it for trivial reasons. It was his choice to go play somewhere else. It's basically saying you don't have to show up to race if you don't want to or have better things to do than race in NASCAR.
what i think will happen is Nascar will grant Larson a waiver, but give him a points penalty. yes he dropped to 3rd in the standings but he’s only -6 points to Hamlin. But Nascar is doing this for attention, they planned to promote the double all this week but since it didn’t happen they are doing this
He already lost points by not starting the race.
Nascar should be cautious and grant waivers. Otherwise, Larson could always wave goodbye to Nascar and go full time Indy car racing. I'm sure they would love to have him.
Carl was wise enough to realize the trophies were not the most important things in life.
Grate video Eric
There's nothing to worry about Kyle will get a playoff waiver. He's their golden boy.
If Carl left because of that last race, I wouldn't blame him in the slightest. I know that, in his shoes, I'd have come to a similar conclusion. It was a bad call and it felt like the culmination of a bad series of calls that never seemed to fall his way. It would be hard not to feel like NASCAR had it out for me, and even if, upon reflection, I realized that they didn't, I'd feel like I made the right call. Doing anything with a chip on your shoulder, feeling like the world is against you, is a very good way to end up burning out and hating the things you love.
I can absolutely respect his desire to step away, regardless of why he did it. Health is a perfectly valid reason. That what if will always hang heavy in the air whenever his name comes up, but you can't deny that he went out on top, and on his own terms. Not many drivers can say that.
The waiver issue is a non-issue. He gets it. They knew his plan for 6 months. He was completely transparent. He made every effort to compete in both events. The weather bit him. End of story.
@@johnhaas2523 I’m guessing intelligence isn’t your strong suit.
That stipulation you mentioned should be made. He wasn't hurt and openly "skipped" a race
Weather is really the only reason this is even a thing right now...only drama left is because they got to fill out the proper paper work just to make things official... But they should have already granted the waiver last year...
Yes I agree with you, I feel the same way. 100%
NASCAR likes to throw phantom flags and we all know it
this could set a dangerous precedence if he is allowed to take part in the playoffs it leaves door wide open for drivers do skip more races and go do other stuff, other series wich will keep devalue the product of NASCAR..
remember sponsors, TV, teams and fans spends money to see their drivers and teams they support race every NASCAR race not just some races, if this is allowed anyone can miss races for basicly any reason aslong they claim they wanted or intended to do both, the" kyle larson rule"
The only problem with your augment is that Drivers have received playoff wavers after being suspended for intentionally causing accidents on track which could endanger their fellow competitors. And as Eric has said in this particular video NASCAR has given playoff wavers for drivers who have intentionally caused an accident. Giving drivers who have intentionally caused accidents playoff wavers devalues the sport much more than having Kyle Larson running the indy 500 because NASCAR is basically saying that you have intentionally caused accident on track, could of hurt the driver that they have wrecked and could of hurt another driver who had nothing to do with what was happening between that driver and the driver that they intentionally wrecked because they were unhappy about what happened. Those drivers who intentionally cause accidents in order to retaliate should never receive a playoff waver. Like Eric said head injuries are very serious indeed. Just ask Dale Earnhardt Jr. and Kurt Busch. Also, having big name drivers out because they are recovering from a very serious injury isn’t good for the sport. That would hurt NASCAR much more than having a driver running the Indy 500.
Why did they ever change the eligibility rule from having to qualify(or attempt to qualify) for every race to having to race in every race to be eligible? I genuinely can't remember.
Does anyone remember or have the sound bite of him saying "I call it whining" after a wteck between Carl Edwards & Dale Jarrett at the end of the Aug MI race (i don't remember the year). This was a huge sound bite after the race & for a few weeks but it must not have been that big because i can't find it anywhere!!!
NASCAR likes the attention and the drama. They're just going to drag it out because it creates a storyline.
In my opinion, the entire waiver rule just needs to be scrapped. You avoid the situation of part-time teams make it into the playoffs by requiring that a team cannot qualify for the playoffs unless they're in the top 20 in points. That eliminates the guy that goes and wins a race that's 35th in points from making the playoffs, where he has no business being. It also stops part-timers from making a playoff run.
Or just flat out get rid of the win and you're in rule.
If NASCAR wants to avoid driver skipping races then they can just dock some points for doing so. I think that's fair. If you skip a race intentionally, you're docked 25 points or whatever.
The backflip got him in 28 wins ain’t enough for me.
There ya go. NBC needs someone to replace Dale Jr. Carl Edwards threw his hat in that ring.