Anyone else almost taking these videos like weekly classes to go and try out? I’ve produced on off for 8 years and this stuff still always teaches me something new
These are very excellent presets, they sound so refined and clear! As I played with them, I recognized a sound from one of my favorite songs, which is very similar to the original! Liquid - Orlando Dawn (Space Brothers Mix) Thanks!
Wow how the intro is just the Tiësto Adagio for Strings version 😂by the way it is so awesome that we are able to recreate the nostalgic old analog synthesizers sound
I always love a sound design video, especially with a little music history thrown in for added context 👌. I often question if my sounds are "complex" enough to sound professional, so seeing more simple, old school sounds working so well is a helpful reminder that anything can sound great when used in the right way 👍.
It is a valid concern as the music scene is very different today. With well Over 120,000 tracks released every day something certainly needs to make you stand out! Although the concern can be it's own solution. Look at PAWSA room service, sounds like it's from 1980 but goes off because everyone else is chasing modern 'professional' sound.
@@Bthelick It's a bit of a conundrum, isn't it! Ultimately, I know at my amateur level that I won't sound professional yet, so I try not to get too hung up on it, and instead just enjoy the process of creating my own sound, whatever that may be 👍.
In terms of trance, I've heard at recent Porter's stream that to make more authentic lead you should also make unison mono (in vital you can do that in advanced section), bcs this was how JP-8000/8080 produced that sound.
Been binging all your videos i missed while i had stuff going on, great stuff as always! Dont suppose you could do the bass from Billy Gillies - DNA? It sounds so simple but ive been struggling to make similar for some reason, i think its got a slight pitch bend in it but could be wrong
@Bthelick man I forgot I wrote this, managed to make similar in diva what I was missing was an extra modulator on the filter, I only had 1 envelope before and ran into uad verve, i dont want the exact same anyway just similar! Thanks bro 🙏
@Bthelick Hey maybe you could help me out. Im trying to figure out the song baby by malugi. Especially the bass. There is this call and response with the stabs. But i dont get the bassline right is it a kind off reese with an filter on it that opens up. Or another bass with some glide on it? or something else? Thanks for your videos and your time :)
thanks. Yes it sounds like a reese with an extra octave in it, or possible an organ layer. the lie is just playing 1 4 and 5 in A but swapping octaves a lot.
I always love everything you deliver for education. Off topic question, what vst do you use for quality piano sounds for piano house? I want something better than what I have now and value your insight.
Thanks. Depends what era of piano house. For 90s I use a free M1 sample I showed in my " release ready piano house sound" video, or I use micro piano by meatbeats. For everything else I either use Ableton's own or contacts default.
@@Bthelick I'll check that out. Basically I'm working on a song and the piano that I'm using just doesn't sound quite right. Like not thick enough or powerful enough. Hard to explain as I'm still trying to learn some of these things, trying to make sure that all of the sounds are quality.
Hi @bthelick, are there any books you would recommended reading that have helped you or maybe some you haven't read? Really appreciate the video as always, thanks so much!
Sound design looks so 'easy' but somehow my sounds always sound meh. Well, according to myself anyway 😂 I also have to admit I probably don't invest enough time into sound design to become really competent at it. I usually just find a preset I like and and tweak it a bit to my liking.
Like all modern music production, executing the operation of the instrument, processor, or daw is easy, the hard part is the ear training in order to guide those actions. Also Sound design is only as good as the sounds surrounding it, no sound is inherently good or bad on it's own , as it will not exist on its own. .
@@BthelickI have one. It has stereo outputs and left channel can be used for mono. The JP has a massive sound with the supersaw when cranking the chorus and really nice eq. The delay also is part of the sound.
Both. It's a little faster ergonomically, visually much clearer, slightly more flexible in some areas, and no barrier to entry for anyone who wants to learn. Sound wise they are on par, in fact I slightly prefer Vitals default "analog" filter behavior but it's not a deal breaker.
First of all: you are great! I want to ask you something: I watched a video from a different creator and in this video he talks about how important is to have good samples: kick, snares etc... He said the ones in Ableton would not be enough to achieve high quality sound like famous producers. What's your opinion about it? Do you agree? If yes, from where we should take/buy this samples? Thank you!
depends heavily on the genre. I couldn't honestly tell you what comes with Ableton suite these days as my sample library was already well built for so long that I stopped looking, so I honestly can't say what it's capable of on it's own (sounds like a video eh) the way I and most others work in dance music heavily relies on samples , its not a case of "good" or "bad" because that is entirely contextual. it's more a case of options. I would bet ableton simply doesn't have a large enough selection of dance kick drums to have one close enough to many modern references. same with toploops etc. I don't recommend subscriptions for anything else but I personally believe Splice (or loopcloud etc) is such invaluable resource , most sample packs are uploaded to it so imo it's worth the commitment. I use it every day, and it is the only subscription I pay for. and I really do mean "only subscription" as I don't have netflix or anything non-musical either)
I don't advise Tracklib because a fellow DJ friend got into a lawsuit after using their service , The sample was in the most expensive tier of their library but had never been cleared with the original artists. So I do not trust their service.
Hi Paul , a question on STFU plugin , about the length and Beat parameter . When choosing length 1/4 for example , does it refer to 1/4 of 1 Beat so it is in fact a 1/16 note length selection ? Thank you for your help .
Lol all good you got close, it's Ben 😂. StFU's length is in beats. It defaults to 1 beat which in musical terms is a quarter note . So yes 4/1 would be a bar (in 4/4 signature) and 1/4 is indeed a 16th
@@Bthelick Thanks for the confirmation. Ben? Nice!
“Who’s Paul?” reminds me of my first English course in college in France as a first foreign language. Certainly the first sentence we learned at the time (in the 80's...). The next part was “where’s Paul?” “He’s in the kitchen”…😂
@@Bthelick Say Ben, as long as I have you in conversation. In your opinion, are House basses entirely synthetic (FM?) or is it depending on the style? This is a subject on which I would be really interested in you making videos. The sound in relation to electronic styles. I try to compose in Dance but I realize that there are associations that don't really sound. On one song I try to combine 2 basses but it doesn't work 100%. I use the Discovery plugin which is a reproduction of the nord lead for a bass. Maybe it's outdated today for certain styles ??
This is 11. I have 12 purchased but I always take time to upgrade as I prefer to stay compatible with my clients as we swap sessions a lot. 10 is fine yes. I can't remember what was upgraded other than the rack system. How much is a used 10? Are licenses transferrable? Anything will work, the free Waveform DAW (used to my tracktion) is awesome even , any daw is capable of great things. The only difference between any of them is work flow and online resources.
@Bthelick Thank you! All the licenses are transferrable, yes. I can get it for $90 even tho it's the standard version, so it might be worth it since I can't afford much more than that. I tried all major DAWS trials but I fell in love with Ableton's workflow right away! FL Studio regional pricing is very good here in my country, but I didn't really like the software. Keep it up the good work, you are a gift for this community!
Hey b I think doing a video on cloone in the Yuma remix would be amazing. It’s a really interesting baseline that is hard for me and others to recreate. Was wondering your thoughts on this. I think you’ll also have a grand time trying to recreate that piano stabs 😂
I’m referring mainly to the track paradise we referenced in live and a lot of tracks that cloone plays have really good simple bass lines but very effective
I can't tell where your accent comes from. It's got A 70s or 80s childrens tv presenter vibe to me. I dont mean any of the dodgy ones. Thanks for all this info.
@@Bthelick yeah I've seen it, especially the meduza and night blooming jasmine one of hella examples. I know it's more personal preference things really but what is the do and don'ts, the "science" behind it, or is it just go nuts if it's works it's works kinda thing ?
Ah right no I mean the old old ones (where I sound like I'm bored 🤣) There is indeed a science to it. Well a theory. th-cam.com/video/_1v8_7kmA-Q/w-d-xo.htmlsi=UsspQ6luGJA7SmiL
I signed my first track to a label this past weekend, and a large part of that is due to finding your channel. Cheers mate keep up the good work
nice one!
That's great to hear Nick congrats, best of luck with the release 🙏👊
Congratulations!! Inspiring to hear :)
Well done !
Congratulations. You couldn’t get a better tutor. 🎉🎉🍻🍻
Anyone else almost taking these videos like weekly classes to go and try out? I’ve produced on off for 8 years and this stuff still always teaches me something new
Your channel is a pearl in ocean of youtube music videos. Sometimes i want push second and third "like" but it impossible)))
These are very excellent presets, they sound so refined and clear! As I played with them, I recognized a sound from one of my favorite songs, which is very similar to the original!
Liquid - Orlando Dawn (Space Brothers Mix)
Thanks!
Wow how the intro is just the Tiësto Adagio for Strings version 😂by the way it is so awesome that we are able to recreate the nostalgic old analog synthesizers sound
Superb thank you 👏👏👏
Amazing presentation!
Excellent music selection! Finally someone who knows how to show the point! Thank you very much!
Adagio for Strings by Tiësto brings back memories. First trance song I heard as a kid and it was mesmerizing.
Excellent channel. Fantastic.
Love it. That Vital skin though!?
Good isn't it! I found it on the forum It's called "default modify2" by Panasony
this is great, don't know how I haven't seen your channel before 😁
man i love this guy
I always love a sound design video, especially with a little music history thrown in for added context 👌. I often question if my sounds are "complex" enough to sound professional, so seeing more simple, old school sounds working so well is a helpful reminder that anything can sound great when used in the right way 👍.
It is a valid concern as the music scene is very different today. With well Over 120,000 tracks released every day something certainly needs to make you stand out!
Although the concern can be it's own solution. Look at PAWSA room service, sounds like it's from 1980 but goes off because everyone else is chasing modern 'professional' sound.
@@Bthelick It's a bit of a conundrum, isn't it! Ultimately, I know at my amateur level that I won't sound professional yet, so I try not to get too hung up on it, and instead just enjoy the process of creating my own sound, whatever that may be 👍.
You never fail to inspire ❤😊
loving that vital neon glow!
Good isn't it! It's called "default modify2" by Panasony on the forums
Another great video! 🎉🎉🎉🎉🙌🙌🙌🙌🙌🙌🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥
In terms of trance, I've heard at recent Porter's stream that to make more authentic lead you should also make unison mono (in vital you can do that in advanced section), bcs this was how JP-8000/8080 produced that sound.
Hmmmm interesting. Unison mono gets extremely phasey. I don't remember the 8000 defaulting to that unless you only had 1 Jack plugged in.
Excellent video! Also what Vital skin is that? Looks great! 🙌🏻
It's called "default modify2" by Panasony. It's on the vital forums
Amazing content mate!!
Thank you for the presets as well... doing us all a favour as usual!
Been binging all your videos i missed while i had stuff going on, great stuff as always!
Dont suppose you could do the bass from Billy Gillies - DNA?
It sounds so simple but ive been struggling to make similar for some reason, i think its got a slight pitch bend in it but could be wrong
Hmmmm should be just a saw pluck with an eq poke maybe into a lil distortion.
@Bthelick man I forgot I wrote this, managed to make similar in diva what I was missing was an extra modulator on the filter, I only had 1 envelope before and ran into uad verve, i dont want the exact same anyway just similar! Thanks bro 🙏
Epic!
Oh my, where can we get this Vital theme? Great content as always B!
I found it on the forums it's "default modify2" by Panasony
@Bthelick
Hey maybe you could help me out. Im trying to figure out the song baby by malugi. Especially the bass. There is this call and response with the stabs. But i dont get the bassline right is it a kind off reese with an filter on it that opens up. Or another bass with some glide on it? or something else?
Thanks for your videos and your time :)
thanks.
Yes it sounds like a reese with an extra octave in it, or possible an organ layer. the lie is just playing 1 4 and 5 in A but swapping octaves a lot.
@@Bthelick thanks for the quick response :) ❤️
Always got nuggets 😎
I always love everything you deliver for education. Off topic question, what vst do you use for quality piano sounds for piano house? I want something better than what I have now and value your insight.
Thanks. Depends what era of piano house. For 90s I use a free M1 sample I showed in my " release ready piano house sound" video, or I use micro piano by meatbeats.
For everything else I either use Ableton's own or contacts default.
@@Bthelick Roger that. Thank you. 👍
@@DMAO_Music I forgot to mention if you want that avicci vibe from the era then you kinda need Refx Nexus.
@@Bthelick Somehow I have missed the piano house sound video. Checking that out for sure.
@@Bthelick I'll check that out. Basically I'm working on a song and the piano that I'm using just doesn't sound quite right. Like not thick enough or powerful enough. Hard to explain as I'm still trying to learn some of these things, trying to make sure that all of the sounds are quality.
Hi @bthelick, are there any books you would recommended reading that have helped you or maybe some you haven't read? Really appreciate the video as always, thanks so much!
Sound design looks so 'easy' but somehow my sounds always sound meh. Well, according to myself anyway 😂
I also have to admit I probably don't invest enough time into sound design to become really competent at it.
I usually just find a preset I like and and tweak it a bit to my liking.
Like all modern music production, executing the operation of the instrument, processor, or daw is easy, the hard part is the ear training in order to guide those actions. Also Sound design is only as good as the sounds surrounding it, no sound is inherently good or bad on it's own , as it will not exist on its own. .
@@Bthelick Good point :)
I have a perfect condition JP-8080!
No way! Someone else here is saying the jp supersaw was mono by default can you confirm?
@@BthelickI have one. It has stereo outputs and left channel can be used for mono. The JP has a massive sound with the supersaw when cranking the chorus and really nice eq. The delay also is part of the sound.
Yeah that's what I said only when using a single jack from the L.
I'm so jealous. The closest I can get to the sound is u-he diva, it does a great job but still I'd kill for a jp
What ESW pack is that for the Jupiter 8 Saw?
I have a couple of ESW packs & I don't have that one.
its very nice!
Great vid!
Thanks
It's from the free "core" pack
@@Bthelick & thats the one I don't have!! you legend! thanks Ill grab that now!
@@Bthelick Subbed!
I need that vital skin 😅
I found it on the forum It's called "default modify2" by Panasony
Where is the JP 8 waveform coming from? ESW does not have a correspondingly named product on their page. Thanks in advance 👍🏻
They have 2 free wavetable packs. It's in the core pack I think.
Do you use Vital over Serum because its free or do you like it more?
Both. It's a little faster ergonomically, visually much clearer, slightly more flexible in some areas, and no barrier to entry for anyone who wants to learn.
Sound wise they are on par, in fact I slightly prefer Vitals default "analog" filter behavior but it's not a deal breaker.
@@Bthelick Thanks!!!
First of all: you are great! I want to ask you something: I watched a video from a different creator and in this video he talks about how important is to have good samples: kick, snares etc... He said the ones in Ableton would not be enough to achieve high quality sound like famous producers. What's your opinion about it? Do you agree? If yes, from where we should take/buy this samples?
Thank you!
depends heavily on the genre. I couldn't honestly tell you what comes with Ableton suite these days as my sample library was already well built for so long that I stopped looking, so I honestly can't say what it's capable of on it's own (sounds like a video eh) the way I and most others work in dance music heavily relies on samples , its not a case of "good" or "bad" because that is entirely contextual.
it's more a case of options. I would bet ableton simply doesn't have a large enough selection of dance kick drums to have one close enough to many modern references.
same with toploops etc.
I don't recommend subscriptions for anything else but I personally believe Splice (or loopcloud etc) is such invaluable resource , most sample packs are uploaded to it so imo it's worth the commitment. I use it every day, and it is the only subscription I pay for. and I really do mean "only subscription" as I don't have netflix or anything non-musical either)
@@Bthelick I really appreciate you, man!
Tracklib for old samples/songs or there's something better out there?
Thank you very much, you are the best!
I don't advise Tracklib because a fellow DJ friend got into a lawsuit after using their service , The sample was in the most expensive tier of their library but had never been cleared with the original artists. So I do not trust their service.
@@Bthelick Thank you, man!
@@marcelmaluf2781 loopcloud has really really good samples for underground house and good vocals as well.
Hi Paul , a question on STFU plugin , about the length and Beat parameter . When choosing length 1/4 for example , does it refer to 1/4 of 1 Beat so it is in fact a 1/16 note length selection ? Thank you for your help .
Who's Paul? 🤣🤔
@@Bthelick
hey sorry, I made a mistake somewhere I thought that was your first name..
Lol all good you got close, it's Ben 😂.
StFU's length is in beats.
It defaults to 1 beat which in musical terms is a quarter note . So yes 4/1 would be a bar (in 4/4 signature) and 1/4 is indeed a 16th
@@Bthelick Thanks for the confirmation.
Ben? Nice!
“Who’s Paul?” reminds me of my first English course in college in France as a first foreign language. Certainly the first sentence we learned at the time (in the 80's...). The next part was “where’s Paul?” “He’s in the kitchen”…😂
@@Bthelick Say Ben, as long as I have you in conversation. In your opinion, are House basses entirely synthetic (FM?) or is it depending on the style?
This is a subject on which I would be really interested in you making videos. The sound in relation to electronic styles.
I try to compose in Dance but I realize that there are associations that don't really sound. On one song I try to combine 2 basses but it doesn't work 100%.
I use the Discovery plugin which is a reproduction of the nord lead for a bass. Maybe it's outdated today for certain styles ??
Noicee! May I ask what version of ableton are you using? I'm almost buying a used live 10 standard, you think that will be enough for me to produce?
This is 11. I have 12 purchased but I always take time to upgrade as I prefer to stay compatible with my clients as we swap sessions a lot.
10 is fine yes. I can't remember what was upgraded other than the rack system.
How much is a used 10? Are licenses transferrable?
Anything will work, the free Waveform DAW (used to my tracktion) is awesome even , any daw is capable of great things. The only difference between any of them is work flow and online resources.
@Bthelick Thank you! All the licenses are transferrable, yes. I can get it for $90 even tho it's the standard version, so it might be worth it since I can't afford much more than that. I tried all major DAWS trials but I fell in love with Ableton's workflow right away! FL Studio regional pricing is very good here in my country, but I didn't really like the software. Keep it up the good work, you are a gift for this community!
Let me borrow a sentence from you to summarise this lesson: "sounds about right" :) thank you
Close enough for jazz!
Hey b I think doing a video on cloone in the Yuma remix would be amazing. It’s a really interesting baseline that is hard for me and others to recreate. Was wondering your thoughts on this. I think you’ll also have a grand time trying to recreate that piano stabs 😂
its just a sine wave being pitch bent no? are people struggling?
@@Bthelick yes I believe so since we dont have your ears lol. Also that kick is hard to find on splice if you find a sample close to it lmk the name
@@matthewdemetree6743 yeah there's a low tom in there too isn't there so I can see why that would be a bit confusing. I'll have a play
@@Bthelick why do the low Subby basses sound so good ? I feel like b minor and c minor grooves well and sounds good on systems as well.
I’m referring mainly to the track paradise we referenced in live and a lot of tracks that cloone plays have really good simple bass lines but very effective
I can't tell where your accent comes from. It's got A 70s or 80s childrens tv presenter vibe to me. I dont mean any of the dodgy ones. Thanks for all this info.
🤣 I'm just a lancashire northerner trying to enunciate properly so I don't have to type captions manually!
@@Bthelick Cool, It's been doing my head in for ages. Now I know. Nice one.
What skin is that super cool
I found it on the forum It's called "default modify2" by Panasony
@@Bthelick thank you sir!!
Mr.B teach usss how to created sick melodyyyyy from chord proooggggss pweaseee 🥺🥺🥺
Have you seen my old melody tutorials? If I did a refresh, What kind of genre would you like to see?
@@Bthelick yeah I've seen it, especially the meduza and night blooming jasmine one of hella examples. I know it's more personal preference things really but what is the do and don'ts, the "science" behind it, or is it just go nuts if it's works it's works kinda thing ?
Ah right no I mean the old old ones (where I sound like I'm bored 🤣)
There is indeed a science to it. Well a theory.
th-cam.com/video/_1v8_7kmA-Q/w-d-xo.htmlsi=UsspQ6luGJA7SmiL
@@Bthelick yep apparently I missed that one haha, thank you Mr.B
Vital skin?
Called "default modify2" by Panasony on the vital forum 👊
Please Afro House plucks
Did i not cover those in the Afro house video?