Why is it that when coal is mined it's "disrupting the ecosystem" but when a hydroelectric dam alters the course of rivers and creates artificial lakes it's just green energy with no downsides?
We can replace it very easily also,MIT recently did a study that showed that imposing a tax of 50% per emissions would kill the coal industry in less than 3 years and it would be quickly replaced by natural gas,solar and wind to make up for the loss,coal is old let it die.
@@mauricio9564 Indoor air pollution from the unvented burning of wood and animal dung kills millions of people per year. For such people, even the dirtiest coal fired power station would be a vast improvement.
6:07 "these tankers are going to kill my way of life". Incorrect, these vessels are ships commonly referred to as bulk carriers. Having worked on this kind of ship and carried cargoes such as coal, grain, bauxite, iron ore etc all over the world. They won't be killing anything only accidents with these ships due negligence will kill.
Umm there is something wrong with this documentary - simply shipping coal by train, barge and ship is not a big deal compared to actually burning it or shipping it by truck! It seems like the documentary is tryin REALLY HARD to make this a concern.
@@saskcyclistsnapsondrivers3104 the coal seams in Wyoming are among the lowest sulfur content in the world. It is cheap and he best of the worst. And while I think about that more of the world should move towards greener pastures it’s more of a use coal and have everyone on electricity or install a few wind turbines and barely be able to supply electricity. It’s like the question between buying 10 diesel buses(where there are none) or buy 7 electric busses. The answer in the end is trams
So frustrating to watch the start of this film. The amount of environmental damage done by moving coal around on ships or trains is minimal. If coal being moved around was a clear and present danger, vast swaths of the North Eastern US would have easy to see differences in health or environment outcomes. The damaging part is mostly in the burning of coal and it clearly has serious pollution issues (even if you discredit climate change). Unfortunately, for now, the Chinese do not have an accessible alternative though they will work at getting off coal as quickly as they can. For now, they will buy LOTS of coal and by blocking the building of these export terminals, that money will go elsewhere and yet the same amount of coal will still be burned in the coming years.
Mining coal is even more devastating than burning, I live near coal mine, and the whole areas where there is coal mine there is no drinkable water, especially when it rain the water passing through mine will go through river killing fish, and did you know it even start burning coal when it rain which won't stop fire over years of years has passed,
I watched this video in a 1907 Iowa farm house heated with coal. It's a warm 72 degrees as I type. One of my videos on TH-cam shows my vintage 1940's coal stove being reloaded. My cost of heating is one half that of propane. No smoke, no risk of a chimney fire - just a pure clean burning blue flame. Here we raise cattle, hogs & corn. My environmental foot print is no bigger than a save the earth greenie type hand washing out their baby's cotton dippers. However I must admit my two Draft horses can blast out a lot of methane when pulling a heavy load. Whoa Nellie !
@Mr Cabot the amount of precautions that are put into Nuclear waste is one of the greatest things that is take care of. The company my father works for test the concrete containers that they use and even if one of his measurement is of by a tenth of a thousands he will be fired without question. Now this video shows you how it is properly done, not a news channel. th-cam.com/video/mILvWNgggfU/w-d-xo.html
Coal mines don’t permanently or long term hurt the environment. Once the mine closes they bury it and plant trees and other vegetation to repair and bring back the wild life.
The biggest problem is that we are growing the world population at a rate of 1 billion people every 12 years. Supporting this type of growth is going to be very difficult, and probably impossible without the use of fossil fuels.
I'm a bnsf train conductor working in gillette wyoming. clean air and beautiful livestock and a local economy that country's would go to war for. average income is 86000 dollars. I grew up in California and have never seen a more ass backwards place.
+Jared S I too am from Wyoming. Our state economy is amazing, if other states would replicate it, we wouldn't be in a shitty situation. I am planning on working for BNSF next year because its such a good job and great benefits from what it sounds like.
SP4449BN9444 it's the best benifits you can get pretty much. Best retirement. Due to the senority system it will be periods of work and then not till you get a few years under your belt but when you can hold good you can make well over 100k a year. Best day for me so far was a 1000 dollars for 4 hours of work. So it is a solid career choice.
Jared S I hope to be working in Lincoln, NE in the fall? But i doubt i get to do training there. Is Lincoln NE a good area or one of the top places to work for BNSF?
+SP4449BN9444 Lincoln ne is good. all the locations make out pretty good. Alliance ne is good because no one wants to work there lol I had a class in McCook ne that cancelled then I got in a class in gillette wyoming. kind of ridiculous to get hired on but we'll worth the effort. I'm hoping to get in an engineer class asap and then I will spend a few years working in alliance since engineers can get forced to work there.
so funny how a documentary tries to show it showing both sides but is so one sided. I love how a movement claims to be on the side of science but doesn't follow the scientific method. wonderful how the kid at the end is fully indoctrinated.
Up-date, Washington state rejected a coal-export terminal on the Columbia. In 2016, the Government of Canada announced its plan to eliminate the use of traditional coal-fired electricity in Canada by 2030.
@@jimmccoal2693 Agenda 2030 it's about helping underdeveloped countries. Like getting clean water to people. Why don't you want them to have clean water to drink?
@@jammer6524 actually it's not about clean drinking water at all. People do donate millions of dollars every year for ,many many decades for this cause. Do they have clean water ? Where is the money going ? This is not a new problem.
the real problem is that the 5.5 billion$ hardly any of it trickles back into the local economy. the majority of the money goes to the department of defense, as if they didnt have enough money already
Yea, 5.5 billion is not even a drop in the bucket anymore. The Gov has been throwing away tax payer money for the last 20 plus years and all of it is borrowed from the future. We are drowning in debt.
a couple of ways. the bunker fuel they use is basically hot tarmac. the sulphur emissions per bulk carrier is equivalent to 60,000 diesel cars. 2nd ballast water takes water from other parts of the world complete with all the microbes and then deposits it in another ecosystem killing everything. oh yes fun fact, they had to dynamite a channel in the great barrier reef to get the extra draft for big coal ships in australia!
@@mrrolandlawrence you better check your facts, first of as of 1st of January 2020 all ships must use low Sulphur diesel in or near coast or ports which is normal diesel in most cases. Ships which are burning heavy fuel must be fitted with scrubber equipment. Cargo ships are the most environmentally friendly form of transport making less pollution per ton carried than any other, and ships carry two thirds of international trade and goods. All ships must have a ballast water mangament plans and either have exchange ballast water far out in deep ocean and or treat ballast water to kill all microscopic organisms in it, this has been in force since 2017 from the IMO.
The most efficient after uranium. In Finland this does not cause any problems to environment. The produktion is extremely clean. And the efficiency is the world's best: 95 %.
@Yankee Gohome It's better and cheaper to use natural gas directly instead of electricity from natural gas-fired generation. Use a gas stove, gas water heater, gas heater, and gas clothes dryer instead of electric versions of those appliances powered by natural gas power plants.
I really wonder. If this coal terminal port doesn't get built, it will go to Canada with 1970 environmental technology. It seems the US port will be more environmental. However that coal will get burnt regardless if the terminal doesn't get built. It get burn anyway. If we don't build, Canada will ship it with more railway distance. Also trains may emit a lot of emissions, but the emission per ton may be a lot lower than trucks shipping coal. Rail is the way to go.
It did end up going through Alberta and BC to the west coast ports of Vancouver and Prince Rupert. It is noted shipping time is shorter due to trains being faster than ships so companies get paid quicker.
Lady at the 11:35 mark is right, WE DONT CARE! lmao we do have speed regulations as well and maybe 10mph is the fastest we can go thru that area. Also, I'm curious on what was there first the tracks or her????
@@lydiacabrera6251 my brother has been driving coal traims for over 30 years.and is fine, my uncle.was cool miner for 42 years he is now 90 years old and perfectly fit so what's your problem? The guy is just doing his job!
To the lady with the super hard life of watering plants and OMG waiting 4 to 5 minutes on a train to go by "i feel so BAD FOR U!!!!""""" that 4 or 5 minute wait at a train stop means hundreds even thousands of kids ate food today and had decent shoes and clothes on their backs and went on to college and have a home to live in right NOW!!!! Im setting here so emotional about how stupid people are it makes me want to cry i live in hard hit coal country my dad gave me a super good life minning coal on his knees and back for 40 years to keep the lights on in this country, in the WV coal mines and never complained once. He is a happy man he provided such a good life for me and my sisters and now im going in the mines to raise my son right!!! These people complaining don't CARE AT ALL i'm sorry its a way of life where i live too, mining coal it's all we got!!! So While you have to almost die waiting 4 to 5 MINUTES on A TRAIN TO PASS THINK NEXT TIME WHAT THAT TRAIN OF COAL MEANS TO OTHER PEOPLE AND KIDS!!!!!
I journeyed across this Salish Sea in 2009 when I took a ferry from Vancouver to Vancouver Island. Eventually got to Tofino on Vancouver Island. There was a lot of lumber washed up on Tofino beach and that's where I had my one and only glimpse at the Pacific Ocean.
Bottom line is Asia is going to burn coal and if we export the powder river basin coal to them it will actually help as it is the cleanest coal in the world. And it would create lots of high paying jobs in our country. This article is very biased towards environmentalists, I have been involved in the coal industry in the powder river basin for over 40 years and I do not believe that is presented fairly at all in this piece.
“High paying jobs and clean burning coal” doesn’t negate the fact that fossil fuels are on there way out. Mountain top removal is a cruel process that destroys land the coal sits under. Coal mining should be done underground.
@@zanecallahan3948 You need to get out more and quit listening to the crap that is no where close to reality, The mines in Wyoming are great stewards of the land When they are done mining the land is better than when they started. There is an over abundance of coal here that can only be mined from the surface as the overburden is not stable enough to mine underground.
@@wayneworthen2685 ridiculous. I live right here in Salt Lake City. I get to lay my eyes on the largest Copper mine in the country every day. It’s good for business but an atrocity to the land. Open your eyes bud, the energy industry needs more competition. Removing layer upon layer of earth to reach a fossil fuel isn’t sustainable to communities surrounding it. Mountain top removal is a downright disgrace, mine UNDERGROUND or find a different job, don’t be scared of a little mine explosion. Oh I’m sure they return the land back to the natural way it was formed over millions of millions of years, sure. Top soil and trees is a good gesture i guess 😂
In a way I'm liberal. It's good to see energy changing to something that isn't so limited. Even huge quantities get used up, eventually. On the other hand, there's a conservative side that says you're not going to get the job done without some work and sacrifice and some people won't be happy. I'm sad to see the jobs go. That's hard, because many of those guys spent some time training and working hard for their position. It's a necessary transition for the long term, but those guys at the plant will need the community's help and support to move to a new age.
signaling moron politicians try to make these people losing their jobs feel better they say they can work in a factory making solar panels or windmills. Only thing is we will never have these factories here. You have to move your family to China because it's the only place with the necessary materials to make that stuff.
Just like those men in the factories. The factories closed down and all they got was low wage, low skill, low respect jobs, heroin addiction, and time in prison.
You could remake this video on the Patapsco River in Maryland in 2025 and not much has changed. We have a coal ash dump, a huge coal powered power plant, and a coal export terminal which is the largest in the US. And a number of other polluters including a medical waste incinerater, tar processing plant, chemical plant, a radioactive superfund site, and several toxic dumps all in the town of Curtis Bay which spans Baltimore City and Anne Arundel County, it still feels like 1975 here. Many of us have been fighting for our right to have clean air, soil, and water in our town and stopping pollution in the river, but we go largely unheard. We live in progressive Maryland's "Sacrifice Zone." Maryland is one of the most hypocritical states in the country.
How does moving trains with coal endanger the environment? All the things they said relate to mining coal. If they want the ports or not they are still gonna mine the damn coal.
Agerkillzz yah a lot of this info is false.. I work with coal everyday I do dust mitigation.. I treat these trains with products that make it burn cleaner and reduces dust by 90%
I love coal and steelmaking. Also most of Indiana's power come from coal. I guess we can't afford clean energy because the sun don't shine, but state government don't seem to like wind. I guess that with these low natural gas prices. Coal plants are being replace with nat gas.
@@megaloblabber2948 Yeah, ironically you get less exposure to radiation living next-door to a nuclear plant than downwind of a coal plant coal is horrible stuff! People like to lean on things like Chernobyl and Fukushima to villainize nuclear but we are holding back research into a safer more efficient designs while forgetting that in comparison to other man-made disasters and climate change, that those events have barely registered in fact life is thriving in Chernobyl exclusion zone, mainly because human activity is low. Biggest threat to nature? Man.
I can clearly see the advantage of living in a very mountainious country like Norway when it comes to producing electricity. Here 98% of electricity is produced in either wind- or waterfall-energy. The only coal production is found on Svalbard, while none of the mines on the mainland produces coal. The result is a healthy ecosystem, vast areas of wilderness and far less health problems for the citizens. Coal is to me very outdated, especially when other forms of energy is available. It doesn't matter if humans are responsible for global warming or not, -coal is still destroying the local ecosystem. That said, I don't see any problem for the local ecosystem by building the new port. Nor do I see the problem of using ships in the process; they won't pollute any more than regular freight ships.
Little girl... What do you mean you didn't do anything wrong? Your parents need to be less ignorant, and make you less ignorant. You have your skis, clothes, trips to the ski area, soccer balls, books,.. all made with energy from coal. Don't be a hypocrite. Asia will get their coal regardless.
If coal fired power plants are eliminated there is still mettalurgical coal although there is only 2.3 billion tons left along the Norfolk And Western Railway that was estimated 20 years ago.
Mr Cabot Seems like the perspective of someone who has never seen the other 95% of people. Most people don’t live in 400k houses. For some people the price of a solar system is 10 times the price of their house. Even for the people in the US only 20% can theoretically get solar because the rest live in urban areas, like myself. And for many it’s just cheaper to not get solar. If I owned a house it just wouldn’t make sense to buy solar.
@Mr Cabot so why are you swearing at people who are asking questions or debating. No need to be hostile. As for forcing people to go solar , forcing is what a country run buy a dictator does. Oh wait..
Spraying waters to coal will decrease dirt as well as risking of flammable. The modern GEVO AC 4 TIER LOCOS exhaust less diesel and very powerful locos 💪
@Mr Cabot coal is God. Canadian coal is low sulphur. This is why countries love our high grade coal. Burns hotter and cleaner. I imagine you support Nuclear Power plants. Tou know the ones with spent rods that take a thousand years to be be none radio active. Chernobyl turned our well and the 2 in Japan that is killing the Pacific Ocean. Long live Coal
@Mr Cabot oh my your butt hurt. In order to make your fancy wind turbines, first off you . Mine it , process it then manufacture it. You need coal and oil and ore. Wow hay. Lol .
@@jimmccoal2693 @Mr Cabot How can neither of you support nuclear. Nuclear is the only base load solution for the future we have. BTW you don't have to worry about radioactivity when the "waste" is hundreds of meters underground.
@@jimmccoal2693 They don't put the waste in the water table. They choose the location carefully. Also its not a bunker, the rods are sealed inside clay, concrete and copper casks that are tested to withstand the impact of an airliner hitting them, so they aren't breaking open until the waste is safe. Say they magically did break open, they are surrounded by clay on all sides as that's what is used to back fill the tunnels.
I work for a company that cleans coal fired power plants I have nothing bad to say yes its dirty but do you all say that when u flick your wall light on turn on the TV etc......... so please
Can someone explain what caused the immense climate change that happened to the Earth a mere 15,000 years ago when glaciers pushes south from Arctic regions as far south as the upper midwest of America?
I think the left call it "Global Warming"....LMAO But if you think about it, the world has been in a steady process of warming since the time of the great glaciers in North America.
divisioneight YOU DON’T KNOW THAT EARTH’S ROTATION SHIFTS? The 23.5 degrees tilt changes slightly and earth switches from ice age to now every 70 million years.
Whiskeybuisness YOU DON’T KNOW THAT EARTH’S ROTATION SHIFTS? The 23.5 degrees tilt changes slightly and earth switches from ice age to now every 70 million years.
@@saskcyclistsnapsondrivers3104 and when it doesn’t happen, you have a lawsuit and possible jail time. And no one wants to go to jail or lose money pointlessly
It's not just about purposeful coal burning. Spontaneous coal fires, mostly in post-mining waste heaps, but also in the natural environment (coal outcrops, e.g., over a vast area in China's Xinjiang, Inner Mongolia, Shaanxi, and other areas) introduce a number of pollutants. Data and estimations show that North China's coal wildfires may state for as much as 1-2% global CO2 input. The CO2 is just an example. Coal fires introduce quite a bunch of toxic compounds like thiophene, dichloromethane (and other halocarbons), as well as cyanic compounds, to mention some. However, coal doesn't need to be either burnt or forgotten. Coals commonly bear a myriad of rare elements - including the so-called critical elements - and these elements can be exctracted, as is already being done, e.g., in China and Virginia. The paradox here is that it commonly goes about the so-called green elements, inluding the REEs, of which dysprosium is, currently, mandatory in wind turbines. This is why coal burning is, simply, a complete waste...
was it in the 80s when cars had to be equipped with catalytic converters to reduce pollution -why can't there be a similar "filter system" for coal-fired power stations?
Thank you, documentary. I agree with what you're presenting 100%! Without coal there would be no climate change, no drought and no famines. All hunger would end and freak weather events and natural disasters would cease to exist forever. As we all know, famines, droughts, floods, heat waves and other climatic disasters never happened before the accursed industrial revolution. Now, we have to start paying our tithes to the authorities so they can fix the climate. And we have to keep paying it for as long as it takes until the climate stops changing. This is for the good of the planet of course! The planet is too weak to exist without us. We've poisoned this planet with carbon dioxide. As any educated person would know, carbon dioxide is a dangerous pollutant that all plants hate. We need to keep the earth green by removing all carbon dioxide from the atmosphere. Only then will we have peace!
Is it possible to cover coal while transporting by train racks compulsorily otherwise water bodies by the side of rail lines and villages would be all covered by coal dust. I am surprised that in India around MP and Chhattisgarh the railways are not compulsorily asking the coal transporters to cover the train 🚆 (maal gadi) to cover the coal. I am dismayed that water is getting coal layer. Black in color. Though it may reduce the oder but deplete fish 🐠🐟🐠🐟🐠🐟......
It's funny that the Americans say we have to build or Canada gets the jobs. Well, Canadians are saying the same thing; build or America gets the jobs. Looks like if no one builds then the jobs will be replaced by another industry. That's how precious capitalism is supposed to work.
I have some small issues. The environmentalists act like the world is going to end in the next year, and if this video was made in 2012-2013, and it is currently 2022, then why hasn't the world ended yet?
The tragedy here is that we ship a raw material abroad to make a foreign country prosperous. This makes north America a third world country. We should have so much manufacturing in north America that none is available for export. Let’s do a special on why we let China make all finished goods for the world with slave labor and no environmental consideration.
Not sure about other countries, but in the case of China, the big coal deposits are located far inland without adequate waterways, so they had to be transported by rail over thousands of miles. For coastal industrial zone like Shanghai, Chinese coal is actually more expensive than American, Australian, or Indonesian coal which do not require so much rail to transport
It's about dang time we evolve out of the 1800s and put clean energy to use. We have the technology to completely eliminate dirty fossil fuels. Wind and solar alone can completely replace fossil fuels if we adapt our infrastructure and put the good of people and the planet above money and profits. We have to simply change our mindset. A decentralized power grid would greatly simplify things and make the transition to wind and solar very feasible and more reliable. There are more jobs in clean renewable energy than there ever will be with coal and oil. This isn't even so much a political issue as it is a life or death issue. Whether or not you believe in climate change one must admit to the fact that the emissions produced from burning fossil fuels are dangerous to people's health. Coal ash has been proven to contain more toxic heavy metals and radioactive particles that cause cancer, birth defects and other harm than even the radiation released from nuclear sites. Irresponsible disposal practices of this filthy fly ash by evil corrupt companies has contaminated air, water and land all over the world which has affected millions upon millions of people. Human beings can and must do better than this, coal, oil, and gas need to go, they are dirty and obsolete technology. LET'S EVOLVE!
Wind and solar are not dependable enough for 100 percent output of all the world's energy needs. Coal is bad but until renewables are much more effecient cheap coal will be countinued to be used. Plus many of the high paying jobs in the Midwest are in the fossil fuel industry.
People will defend what ever they think is good for them. You can't wave signs and banners and get your way then go home and forget it. After you get your way don't go home and think your done. Help to find solutions to protect our planet's future and our children's lives.
What you guys do not realize is that if you force companies to stop mining and using coal, then you will force many companies out of business because they cannot get the coal that they need. I know that if coal is made illegal to mine in the U.S., then my 3rd Assistant Engineers License will not mean anything to me because I will not be able to get a job with Great Lakes Shipping Companies because there will be none. We will also not be able to make anything that is made of steel because steel requires coal in the steel making process, because coal is what makes steel strong and rigid. So therefore, if you ban coal then we cannot make steel, then that means that the iron ore mines will shut down and if you shut down the iron ore mines then you will need ships or trains to move that iron ore. So those companies will be forced out of business. Oh by the way, the car companies cannot manufacture cars with out steel. See what I am driving at? Most people will not realize that coal has a greater effect on the economy than we think. So, I would like to say that in order to protect my job and many other peoples jobs then we cannot even attempt to get rid of the coal mining companies.
I don't have a problem with coal mining necessarily. I simply oppose destroying mountains for coal. Also, I oppose burning coal which should be saved for making steel. I am one of those people who believe the majority of scientists when they say burning fossil fuels fucks up the climate. What people don't realize is that coal emissions cause asthma and heart attacks.
What about cigarettes? Cigarettes cause asthma and heart attacks as well and I do not see all of the environmentalists and the EPA getting all over the cigarette companies. Here is another one for ya. What about all the toxins that are in the solar panels? What are you going to do about that or is green energy companies and other big corporations paying you guys off too?
coolengineer I don't smoke. Just because smoking cigarettes is harmful doesn't mean it's a good idea to burn coal. They aren't related. Burning coal contributes to climate change and causes asthma attacks, heart attacks, acid rain, and indirectly causes sludge impoundment failures. Mining for coal causes ground and surface water contamination, the destruction of mountains, subsidence, sinkholes, acid mine drainage, and worsens erosion. Mining for coal underground endangers workers lives, so there is really nothing good about coal.
Hydro while changing the physical environment and some habitats locally, do not add to Global pollution period. HYDRO has benefits in clean energy, flood protection and control, as well as recreation in many installations. What people need to understand is no One energy source is capable of solving our energy needs... For example Solar power output drops 80 to 90 percent on overcast days and the wind does not always blow in most places... FYI, Portable Inverter-Battery units that come with fold out solar panels, (commonly referred to as Solar Generators) , take many hours to charge by the panels they come with and are finite in stored energy .Solar doesn't work at night. There is no comparison to a engine-driven or (*Fuel Cell 📲) powered generator... Energy Tech is changing, but it's not a next week/ Year thing ... Coal and Oil 🪔 is a component we need to some degree in one form or another. It's pollution reduction that is the challenge...
Coal is not a good source of energy and profits should never come before our one and only habitat. I don't believe most people realize that we are STUCK on this rock. There is an almost zero chance any of us alive today will escape this rock. There is a slightly better chance some of our grandkids might escape, but the chance is still very low. If WE destroy this one and only habitat, WE are doomed as a species. We will be a species that doomed itself by being too shortsighted. Make a buck now, let our descendants deal with the consequences. Not like I'm going to be alive to see it.
Actually, the opposite of what you said is true. Natural gas is the cleanest burning fossil fuel and nuclear power plant emit only water vapor. In fact, you get more radiation from coal-fired plants than from nuclear power plants.
Why is it that when coal is mined it's "disrupting the ecosystem" but when a hydroelectric dam alters the course of rivers and creates artificial lakes it's just green energy with no downsides?
Because coal damages the nearby eco system. Dams do damage the ecosystem but not as much. Plus when coal is burned it’s extremely bad
@@benthezomboni2701 "it's extremely bad"
very compelling argument but still 2nd to "that's a no-no".
@@sneedchuckington It is,coal pollution is estimated to kill 30,000 every year and coal emissions is the highest of all sources of energy in the US.
We can replace it very easily also,MIT recently did a study that showed that imposing a tax of 50% per emissions would kill the coal industry in less than 3 years and it would be quickly replaced by natural gas,solar and wind to make up for the loss,coal is old let it die.
@@mauricio9564 Indoor air pollution from the unvented burning of wood and animal dung kills millions of people per year. For such people, even the dirtiest coal fired power station would be a vast improvement.
6:07 "these tankers are going to kill my way of life". Incorrect, these vessels are ships commonly referred to as bulk carriers. Having worked on this kind of ship and carried cargoes such as coal, grain, bauxite, iron ore etc all over the world. They won't be killing anything only accidents with these ships due negligence will kill.
Outside of whales. Ships hit whales a lot. Like a surprising amount
@@TheWizardGamez Really? Doesn't the sound repel marine life?
Umm there is something wrong with this documentary - simply shipping coal by train, barge and ship is not a big deal compared to actually burning it or shipping it by truck! It seems like the documentary is tryin REALLY HARD to make this a concern.
Yea but burning it is becoming less common in NA and so the transport is the concern
@@saskcyclistsnapsondrivers3104 the coal seams in Wyoming are among the lowest sulfur content in the world. It is cheap and he best of the worst. And while I think about that more of the world should move towards greener pastures it’s more of a use coal and have everyone on electricity or install a few wind turbines and barely be able to supply electricity. It’s like the question between buying 10 diesel buses(where there are none) or buy 7 electric busses. The answer in the end is trams
The exhaust from a locomotive is NOTHING compared to what it would be if everything was carried by truck. Argument over.
+GEES44DC That makes sense when I think about it.
+GEES44DC exactly, its the most efficient way to move large amounts of material over land
GEES44DC 3,200,000 pounds of coal on 135 car train
Donn Worry ...
Everything adds up. All emissions are unnecessary and can be avoided by moving to clean energy sources. Argument over!
So frustrating to watch the start of this film. The amount of environmental damage done by moving coal around on ships or trains is minimal. If coal being moved around was a clear and present danger, vast swaths of the North Eastern US would have easy to see differences in health or environment outcomes. The damaging part is mostly in the burning of coal and it clearly has serious pollution issues (even if you discredit climate change). Unfortunately, for now, the Chinese do not have an accessible alternative though they will work at getting off coal as quickly as they can. For now, they will buy LOTS of coal and by blocking the building of these export terminals, that money will go elsewhere and yet the same amount of coal will still be burned in the coming years.
Chris Ransdell the co2 emissions? Plants love co2 and without co2 you have no oxygen
Coal ash is responsible for 70% of U.S. water pollution in American waterways
Coal ash causes 70% of water pollution in U.S. waterways
@@Nibiru2012ishere Plants to make Oxygen from co2. Plants make Oxygen from the O in H2O
Mining coal is even more devastating than burning, I live near coal mine, and the whole areas where there is coal mine there is no drinkable water, especially when it rain the water passing through mine will go through river killing fish, and did you know it even start burning coal when it rain which won't stop fire over years of years has passed,
I watched this video in a 1907 Iowa farm house heated with coal. It's a warm 72 degrees as I type. One of my videos on TH-cam shows my vintage 1940's coal stove being reloaded. My cost of heating is one half that of propane. No smoke, no risk of a chimney fire - just a pure clean burning blue flame. Here we raise cattle, hogs & corn. My environmental foot print is no bigger than a save the earth greenie type hand washing out their baby's cotton dippers. However I must admit my two Draft horses can blast out a lot of methane when pulling a heavy load. Whoa Nellie !
@Mr Cabot don't sound stupid to me
Mr Cabot violating the constitution? I bet you want to get rid of my right to own a gun. Stfu. From my cold dead hands you Marxist pos.
@Mr Cabot nuclear, dirty? You really have no idea what your on about.
@Mr Cabot the amount of precautions that are put into Nuclear waste is one of the greatest things that is take care of. The company my father works for test the concrete containers that they use and even if one of his measurement is of by a tenth of a thousands he will be fired without question. Now this video shows you how it is properly done, not a news channel.
th-cam.com/video/mILvWNgggfU/w-d-xo.html
@Mr Cabot sorry bud, i ain't lying because unlike some people i look at both sides of the coin when it comes to reports and statistics.
So big lesson. Electrify the US rail network(literally should’ve been done decades ago)
If it was economic the rail companies would do it now.
Coal mines don’t permanently or long term hurt the environment. Once the mine closes they bury it and plant trees and other vegetation to repair and bring back the wild life.
Charles Hartley coal ash. Toxic waste that is left afterwards pollutes with dangerous metals
KrypTeK Charles Hartley coal ash. Toxic waste that is left afterwards pollutes with dangerous metals
@Charles Hartley they definitely can capture co2 from biomass plants. Google it.
The biggest problem is that we are growing the world population at a rate of 1 billion people every 12 years. Supporting this type of growth is going to be very difficult, and probably impossible without the use of fossil fuels.
It’s 2022. We’re now 8 billion people.
19:15 I will no longer be able to ski.
Skiing is leisure so first world problems not really what this is about.
I'm a bnsf train conductor working in gillette wyoming. clean air and beautiful livestock and a local economy that country's would go to war for. average income is 86000 dollars. I grew up in California and have never seen a more ass backwards place.
+Jared S I too am from Wyoming. Our state economy is amazing, if other states would replicate it, we wouldn't be in a shitty situation. I am planning on working for BNSF next year because its such a good job and great benefits from what it sounds like.
SP4449BN9444 it's the best benifits you can get pretty much. Best retirement. Due to the senority system it will be periods of work and then not till you get a few years under your belt but when you can hold good you can make well over 100k a year. Best day for me so far was a 1000 dollars for 4 hours of work. So it is a solid career choice.
Jared S I hope to be working in Lincoln, NE in the fall? But i doubt i get to do training there. Is Lincoln NE a good area or one of the top places to work for BNSF?
+SP4449BN9444 Lincoln ne is good. all the locations make out pretty good. Alliance ne is good because no one wants to work there lol I had a class in McCook ne that cancelled then I got in a class in gillette wyoming. kind of ridiculous to get hired on but we'll worth the effort. I'm hoping to get in an engineer class asap and then I will spend a few years working in alliance since engineers can get forced to work there.
so funny how a documentary tries to show it showing both sides but is so one sided. I love how a movement claims to be on the side of science but doesn't follow the scientific method. wonderful how the kid at the end is fully indoctrinated.
The issue with "climate change" is trying to separate facts from politics.
The biggest shame here, is that poor little boy being named Rachel by his parents.
They describe it as a she. But it's not real obvious.
@Krell: "The biggest shame..." Good one,
Lmao
Up-date,
Washington state rejected a coal-export terminal on the Columbia. In 2016, the Government of Canada announced its plan to eliminate the use of traditional coal-fired electricity in Canada by 2030.
Agenda 2030 . Do your research. It's not about rainbows and puppy dogs.
@@jimmccoal2693So what's your problem with kids in underdeveloped countries having clean water to drink?
@@jammer6524 what ??
@@jimmccoal2693 Agenda 2030 it's about helping underdeveloped countries. Like getting clean water to people. Why don't you want them to have clean water to drink?
@@jammer6524 actually it's not about clean drinking water at all. People do donate millions of dollars every year for ,many many decades for this cause. Do they have clean water ? Where is the money going ? This is not a new problem.
When everyone quits complaining how we live, we will all be happy again. The sun doesn't always shine, and the wind doesn't always blow.
Mining lithium and all rare materials for electric cars is much worse for environment.
the real problem is that the 5.5 billion$ hardly any of it trickles back into the local economy. the majority of the money goes to the department of defense, as if they didnt have enough money already
Yea, 5.5 billion is not even a drop in the bucket anymore. The Gov has been throwing away tax payer money for the last 20 plus years and all of it is borrowed from the future. We are drowning in debt.
I remember when the climate freaks were saying we will freeze to death from global cooling. 70's-80's.
Its fake
youre confusing climate with weather. Climate change can create massive cold snaps due to jet stream weakening
@@biteme9486 Tell me, did the Mammoth's sweat to death? Or freeze to death?
@@TheDustysix the current hypotheses is that they were hunted by humans and the melting of the glaciers destroyed a lot of the plant life they ate
@@biteme9486 And the planet swapped poles too.
They take the money and dump the trash on you. They also invest in the medical industrial complex.
Can someone explain how come the cargo ships would kill the crabs and salmons?
The scheer volume of ships and the pollution they cause? People don't fish in ports like that do they?
@The Anonymous Sir Backspace oil leaks** oil leeks would be a strain of vegetable.
a couple of ways. the bunker fuel they use is basically hot tarmac. the sulphur emissions per bulk carrier is equivalent to 60,000 diesel cars. 2nd ballast water takes water from other parts of the world complete with all the microbes and then deposits it in another ecosystem killing everything. oh yes fun fact, they had to dynamite a channel in the great barrier reef to get the extra draft for big coal ships in australia!
@@mrrolandlawrence Thank you:)
@@mrrolandlawrence you better check your facts, first of as of 1st of January 2020 all ships must use low Sulphur diesel in or near coast or ports which is normal diesel in most cases. Ships which are burning heavy fuel must be fitted with scrubber equipment. Cargo ships are the most environmentally friendly form of transport making less pollution per ton carried than any other, and ships carry two thirds of international trade and goods. All ships must have a ballast water mangament plans and either have exchange ballast water far out in deep ocean and or treat ballast water to kill all microscopic organisms in it, this has been in force since 2017 from the IMO.
you used that kid.
That little boy is nothing but a prop
Parents brainwashed kid with their own beliefs and ideology.
@@pairojeans climatw change is fake
@@wordlife-d8z lol
Coal is not particularly clean but can be made cleaner. It is an effective heater. It does not produce famine or flood.
The most efficient after uranium. In Finland this does not cause any problems to environment. The produktion is extremely clean. And the efficiency is the world's best: 95 %.
If you have anthracite-it's clean, if you have scrubbing it is clean. Still the best energy efficiency.@@pekde
Nuclear, gas, and renewables, please.
@Yankee Gohome It's better and cheaper to use natural gas directly instead of electricity from natural gas-fired generation. Use a gas stove, gas water heater, gas heater, and gas clothes dryer instead of electric versions of those appliances powered by natural gas power plants.
+EarthFixMedia turn your lights off sell your car turn your heat off and air .eat grass .
All good ideas actually
You don’t get it. Go to school
I really wonder. If this coal terminal port doesn't get built, it will go to Canada with 1970 environmental technology. It seems the US port will be more environmental. However that coal will get burnt regardless if the terminal doesn't get built. It get burn anyway. If we don't build, Canada will ship it with more railway distance. Also trains may emit a lot of emissions, but the emission per ton may be a lot lower than trucks shipping coal. Rail is the way to go.
It did end up going through Alberta and BC to the west coast ports of Vancouver and Prince Rupert. It is noted shipping time is shorter due to trains being faster than ships so companies get paid quicker.
Coal is an old fashioned energy that should have been done away with years ago. Natural gas is the transition we need to get to renewables.
Yes! Agreed! Thank you for speaking the truth!
no coal , triple their heating bills and see what they say
Good argument. The environment is worth permanently damaging because coal is a bit cheaper.
@@ahall9839 India will poison us anyway.
coal is more expensive then NATGAS
What if they have gas and or wood and or geothermal heat?
@@ahall9839 your wrong. With todays high tech scrubbers the is almost zero emissions.
Lady at the 11:35 mark is right, WE DONT CARE! lmao we do have speed regulations as well and maybe 10mph is the fastest we can go thru that area. Also, I'm curious on what was there first the tracks or her????
15:30 - Shareem Allen. Showing how to lie with a straight face to protect your job.
It’s microscopic how can u see it! Hope u have life insurance Shareem Allen.
@@lydiacabrera6251 my brother has been driving coal traims for over 30 years.and is fine, my uncle.was cool miner for 42 years he is now 90 years old and perfectly fit so what's your problem? The guy is just doing his job!
To the lady with the super hard life of watering plants and OMG waiting 4 to 5 minutes on a train to go by "i feel so BAD FOR U!!!!""""" that 4 or 5 minute wait at a train stop means hundreds even thousands of kids ate food today and had decent shoes and clothes on their backs and went on to college and have a home to live in right NOW!!!! Im setting here so emotional about how stupid people are it makes me want to cry i live in hard hit coal country my dad gave me a super good life minning coal on his knees and back for 40 years to keep the lights on in this country, in the WV coal mines and never complained once. He is a happy man he provided such a good life for me and my sisters and now im going in the mines to raise my son right!!! These people complaining don't CARE AT ALL i'm sorry its a way of life where i live too, mining coal it's all we got!!! So While you have to almost die waiting 4 to 5 MINUTES on A TRAIN TO PASS THINK NEXT TIME WHAT THAT TRAIN OF COAL MEANS TO OTHER PEOPLE AND KIDS!!!!!
I want them for christmas
I journeyed across this Salish Sea in 2009 when I took a ferry from Vancouver to Vancouver Island. Eventually got to Tofino on Vancouver Island. There was a lot of lumber washed up on Tofino beach and that's where I had my one and only glimpse at the Pacific Ocean.
to save the planet your going to put a wind turbine or a solar panel on every square inch of the earth? sounds a little crazy to me.
Bottom line is Asia is going to burn coal and if we export the powder river basin coal to them it will actually help as it is the cleanest coal in the world. And it would create lots of high paying jobs in our country. This article is very biased towards environmentalists, I have been involved in the coal industry in the powder river basin for over 40 years and I do not believe that is presented fairly at all in this piece.
“High paying jobs and clean burning coal” doesn’t negate the fact that fossil fuels are on there way out. Mountain top removal is a cruel process that destroys land the coal sits under. Coal mining should be done underground.
@@zanecallahan3948 You need to get out more and quit listening to the crap that is no where close to reality, The mines in Wyoming are great stewards of the land When they are done mining the land is better than when they started. There is an over abundance of coal here that can only be mined from the surface as the overburden is not stable enough to mine underground.
@@wayneworthen2685 ridiculous. I live right here in Salt Lake City. I get to lay my eyes on the largest Copper mine in the country every day. It’s good for business but an atrocity to the land. Open your eyes bud, the energy industry needs more competition. Removing layer upon layer of earth to reach a fossil fuel isn’t sustainable to communities surrounding it. Mountain top removal is a downright disgrace, mine UNDERGROUND or find a different job, don’t be scared of a little mine explosion. Oh I’m sure they return the land back to the natural way it was formed over millions of millions of years, sure. Top soil and trees is a good gesture i guess 😂
In a way I'm liberal. It's good to see energy changing to something that isn't so limited. Even huge quantities get used up, eventually. On the other hand, there's a conservative side that says you're not going to get the job done without some work and sacrifice and some people won't be happy. I'm sad to see the jobs go. That's hard, because many of those guys spent some time training and working hard for their position. It's a necessary transition for the long term, but those guys at the plant will need the community's help and support to move to a new age.
signaling moron politicians try to make these people losing their jobs feel better they say they can work in a factory making solar panels or windmills. Only thing is we will never have these factories here. You have to move your family to China because it's the only place with the necessary materials to make that stuff.
Just like those men in the factories. The factories closed down and all they got was low wage, low skill, low respect jobs, heroin addiction, and time in prison.
You could remake this video on the Patapsco River in Maryland in 2025 and not much has changed. We have a coal ash dump, a huge coal powered power plant, and a coal export terminal which is the largest in the US. And a number of other polluters including a medical waste incinerater, tar processing plant, chemical plant, a radioactive superfund site, and several toxic dumps all in the town of Curtis Bay which spans Baltimore City and Anne Arundel County, it still feels like 1975 here. Many of us have been fighting for our right to have clean air, soil, and water in our town and stopping pollution in the river, but we go largely unheard. We live in progressive Maryland's "Sacrifice Zone." Maryland is one of the most hypocritical states in the country.
Trump said we have clean coal.
How does moving trains with coal endanger the environment? All the things they said relate to mining coal. If they want the ports or not they are still gonna mine the damn coal.
It's the coal burning plants overseas. China's w big culprit. If they can achieve clean coal technology, that will help.
Agerkillzz yah a lot of this info is false.. I work with coal everyday I do dust mitigation.. I treat these trains with products that make it burn cleaner and reduces dust by 90%
I love coal and steelmaking. Also most of Indiana's power come from coal. I guess we can't afford clean energy because the sun don't shine, but state government don't seem to like wind. I guess that with these low natural gas prices. Coal plants are being replace with nat gas.
rockify25 Charles Hartley coal ash. Toxic waste that is left afterwards pollutes with dangerous metals
or u know? nuclear?
@@megaloblabber2948 Yeah, ironically you get less exposure to radiation living next-door to a nuclear plant than downwind of a coal plant coal is horrible stuff! People like to lean on things like Chernobyl and Fukushima to villainize nuclear but we are holding back research into a safer more efficient designs while forgetting that in comparison to other man-made disasters and climate change, that those events have barely registered in fact life is thriving in Chernobyl exclusion zone, mainly because human activity is low. Biggest threat to nature? Man.
@@5688gamble 2 out of how many nuclear plants. It’s crazy.
Reported for being "misleading" There, I did my good deed for the day.
snitch
@@Btvstudio coward
Can someone summarize this my science teacher is making me watch it for online school
omg sameeeeeee!!! 😂😂😂
same
sameeee :(
@@Lara-oy8xr sure.. coal is good. You need coal to make steel.
Same
I can clearly see the advantage of living in a very mountainious country like Norway when it comes to producing electricity. Here 98% of electricity is produced in either wind- or waterfall-energy. The only coal production is found on Svalbard, while none of the mines on the mainland produces coal.
The result is a healthy ecosystem, vast areas of wilderness and far less health problems for the citizens. Coal is to me very outdated, especially when other forms of energy is available. It doesn't matter if humans are responsible for global warming or not, -coal is still destroying the local ecosystem.
That said, I don't see any problem for the local ecosystem by building the new port. Nor do I see the problem of using ships in the process; they won't pollute any more than regular freight ships.
Can Coal be vaped to make heat , and in doing that do you eliminate the pollution or heat .
Little girl... What do you mean you didn't do anything wrong? Your parents need to be less ignorant, and make you less ignorant. You have your skis, clothes, trips to the ski area, soccer balls, books,.. all made with energy from coal. Don't be a hypocrite. Asia will get their coal regardless.
If coal fired power plants are eliminated there is still mettalurgical coal although there is only 2.3 billion tons left along the Norfolk And Western Railway that was estimated 20 years ago.
If they are worried about diesel particulate matter escaping make the trains tarp up like trucks have to
That BNSF guy of 19 years sounds like he's reading straight out of the script
you should turn your lights off and heat and air ,that will save earth
@Mr Cabot wow glad you could afford to built a new house. Now what about the other 6billion broke people
@Mr Cabot you sound well educated. You should run for PM of canada.
@Mr Cabot
That's some "Why don't homeless people just buy a house?" logic
Mr Cabot
Seems like the perspective of someone who has never seen the other 95% of people. Most people don’t live in 400k houses. For some people the price of a solar system is 10 times the price of their house. Even for the people in the US only 20% can theoretically get solar because the rest live in urban areas, like myself. And for many it’s just cheaper to not get solar. If I owned a house it just wouldn’t make sense to buy solar.
@Mr Cabot so why are you swearing at people who are asking questions or debating. No need to be hostile. As for forcing people to go solar , forcing is what a country run buy a dictator does. Oh wait..
and I love the air quality test on the bride on coal trains with 0 coal trains passing lol
Spraying waters to coal will decrease dirt as well as risking of flammable. The modern GEVO AC 4 TIER LOCOS exhaust less diesel and very powerful locos 💪
earth heals itself
Thats Why We Need Nuclear Power!
Over fishing ok? Coal equals steel for ships electricity without coal right now yer screwed
@Mr Cabot coal is God. Canadian coal is low sulphur. This is why countries love our high grade coal. Burns hotter and cleaner. I imagine you support Nuclear Power plants. Tou know the ones with spent rods that take a thousand years to be be none radio active. Chernobyl turned our well and the 2 in Japan that is killing the Pacific Ocean. Long live Coal
@Mr Cabot oh my your butt hurt. In order to make your fancy wind turbines, first off you . Mine it , process it then manufacture it. You need coal and oil and ore. Wow hay. Lol .
@@jimmccoal2693 @Mr Cabot
How can neither of you support nuclear. Nuclear is the only base load solution for the future we have. BTW you don't have to worry about radioactivity when the "waste" is hundreds of meters underground.
@@Henriburger1 underground yes. Where is the water table . One crack in the underground bunker could contaminate TRILLIONS of liters of water.
@@jimmccoal2693
They don't put the waste in the water table. They choose the location carefully. Also its not a bunker, the rods are sealed inside clay, concrete and copper casks that are tested to withstand the impact of an airliner hitting them, so they aren't breaking open until the waste is safe. Say they magically did break open, they are surrounded by clay on all sides as that's what is used to back fill the tunnels.
I work for a company that cleans coal fired power plants I have nothing bad to say yes its dirty but do you all say that when u flick your wall light on turn on the TV etc......... so please
Yes I say that.
Filling up a train car of coal dust does it require wearing a mask?
Funding for this documentary was provided by lobbyists you should know.
no coal?....no life....
Can someone explain what caused the immense climate change that happened to the Earth a mere 15,000 years ago when glaciers pushes south from Arctic regions as far south as the upper midwest of America?
I think the left call it "Global Warming"....LMAO
But if you think about it, the world has been in a steady process of warming since the time of the great glaciers in North America.
divisioneight YOU DON’T KNOW THAT EARTH’S ROTATION SHIFTS? The 23.5 degrees tilt changes slightly and earth switches from ice age to now every 70 million years.
Whiskeybuisness YOU DON’T KNOW THAT EARTH’S ROTATION SHIFTS? The 23.5 degrees tilt changes slightly and earth switches from ice age to now every 70 million years.
Apparently, judging by the dearth of answers to your question, they don't want to talk about that.
Worst documentary I've ever watched. Its filled with satire, and conspiracy theories....
Federal law requires mines to reclaim one acre for ever acre mined.
Doesnt mean it happens
@@saskcyclistsnapsondrivers3104 but what proof do you have that it doesn't, baseless sound byte!
@@saskcyclistsnapsondrivers3104 and when it doesn’t happen, you have a lawsuit and possible jail time. And no one wants to go to jail or lose money pointlessly
Y'all worry about the silliest things... keep America working ....
Long shoremen; large capacity freight stevedoring, yes?
Essentially carefulness required to do with it.
It's not just about purposeful coal burning. Spontaneous coal fires, mostly in post-mining waste heaps, but also in the natural environment (coal outcrops, e.g., over a vast area in China's Xinjiang, Inner Mongolia, Shaanxi, and other areas) introduce a number of pollutants. Data and estimations show that North China's coal wildfires may state for as much as 1-2% global CO2 input. The CO2 is just an example. Coal fires introduce quite a bunch of toxic compounds like thiophene, dichloromethane (and other halocarbons), as well as cyanic compounds, to mention some. However, coal doesn't need to be either burnt or forgotten. Coals commonly bear a myriad of rare elements - including the so-called critical elements - and these elements can be exctracted, as is already being done, e.g., in China and Virginia. The paradox here is that it commonly goes about the so-called green elements, inluding the REEs, of which dysprosium is, currently, mandatory in wind turbines. This is why coal burning is, simply, a complete waste...
In SimCity 2000, I will no longer use coal power plants.
was it in the 80s when cars had to be equipped with catalytic converters to reduce pollution -why can't there be a similar "filter system" for coal-fired power stations?
Thank you, documentary. I agree with what you're presenting 100%! Without coal there would be no climate change, no drought and no famines. All hunger would end and freak weather events and natural disasters would cease to exist forever. As we all know, famines, droughts, floods, heat waves and other climatic disasters never happened before the accursed industrial revolution.
Now, we have to start paying our tithes to the authorities so they can fix the climate. And we have to keep paying it for as long as it takes until the climate stops changing. This is for the good of the planet of course! The planet is too weak to exist without us.
We've poisoned this planet with carbon dioxide. As any educated person would know, carbon dioxide is a dangerous pollutant that all plants hate. We need to keep the earth green by removing all carbon dioxide from the atmosphere. Only then will we have peace!
Nice post!
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Is it possible to cover coal while transporting by train racks compulsorily otherwise water bodies by the side of rail lines and villages would be all covered by coal dust. I am surprised that in India around MP and Chhattisgarh the railways are not compulsorily asking the coal transporters to cover the train 🚆 (maal gadi) to cover the coal.
I am dismayed that water is getting coal layer. Black in color. Though it may reduce the oder but deplete fish 🐠🐟🐠🐟🐠🐟......
Coal Powered Power Stations in Asia can still impact on the air quality in the USA..
It's funny that the Americans say we have to build or Canada gets the jobs. Well, Canadians are saying the same thing; build or America gets the jobs. Looks like if no one builds then the jobs will be replaced by another industry. That's how precious capitalism is supposed to work.
I have some small issues. The environmentalists act like the world is going to end in the next year, and if this video was made in 2012-2013, and it is currently 2022, then why hasn't the world ended yet?
no sir...most people are NOT intellengent 25:50
The economy boost is great but the mined land needs to be dealt with
Already is being put back to where is was
@@zachkessler4506 relatively speaking. You still lost yards of elevation
We need more children standing up and teaching us how to run the world because children are really smart
The tragedy here is that we ship a raw material abroad to make a foreign country prosperous. This makes north America a third world country. We should have so much manufacturing in north America that none is available for export. Let’s do a special on why we let China make all finished goods for the world with slave labor and no environmental consideration.
and when the world wants to move to EV, they need more coals to produce more electricity for charging those EVs, its the same thing
cant asia mine their own coal?
Not sure about other countries, but in the case of China, the big coal deposits are located far inland without adequate waterways, so they had to be transported by rail over thousands of miles. For coastal industrial zone like Shanghai, Chinese coal is actually more expensive than American, Australian, or Indonesian coal which do not require so much rail to transport
It's about dang time we evolve out of the 1800s and put clean energy to use. We have the technology to completely eliminate dirty fossil fuels. Wind and solar alone can completely replace fossil fuels if we adapt our infrastructure and put the good of people and the planet above money and profits. We have to simply change our mindset. A decentralized power grid would greatly simplify things and make the transition to wind and solar very feasible and more reliable. There are more jobs in clean renewable energy than there ever will be with coal and oil. This isn't even so much a political issue as it is a life or death issue. Whether or not you believe in climate change one must admit to the fact that the emissions produced from burning fossil fuels are dangerous to people's health. Coal ash has been proven to contain more toxic heavy metals and radioactive particles that cause cancer, birth defects and other harm than even the radiation released from nuclear sites. Irresponsible disposal practices of this filthy fly ash by evil corrupt companies has contaminated air, water and land all over the world which has affected millions upon millions of people. Human beings can and must do better than this, coal, oil, and gas need to go, they are dirty and obsolete technology. LET'S EVOLVE!
Wind and solar are both dependent on factors outside human control and tend to have their highest outputs out of step with periods of peak demand.
Wind and solar are not dependable enough for 100 percent output of all the world's energy needs. Coal is bad but until renewables are much more effecient cheap coal will be countinued to be used. Plus many of the high paying jobs in the Midwest are in the fossil fuel industry.
People will defend what ever they think is good for them. You can't wave signs and banners and get your way then go home and forget it. After you get your way don't go home and think your done. Help to find solutions to protect our planet's future and our children's lives.
Yup , after you drive you vehical home the consumers fossil fuels and was made with ore and coal. Log it mine it pave it. J/K..
Fuck this shit, it's the same fucking story on all sides: "this thing is threatening my livelyhood, so it's bad and needs to go!"
butt you will cut trees down for fire wood
Trees are renewable.
This is bullshit. The complainings related to the coal trains are just... too much
The climate is slowly cooling not warming.
You need coal to make steel by turning coal into coke. So should we stop using steel? And if the coal runs out then we will stop using steel.
Not all steel is produced using coke. There are electric arc furnaces that do the same.
So how do we regulate volcano emissions?
OR back to nuclear or volcano power.
So, Did it get built?
I travelled half-way around the world to earn a living. Never been back home since 1996.
"Clean coal"
-Trump
What you guys do not realize is that if you force companies to stop mining and using coal, then you will force many companies out of business because they cannot get the coal that they need. I know that if coal is made illegal to mine in the U.S., then my 3rd Assistant Engineers License will not mean anything to me because I will not be able to get a job with Great Lakes Shipping Companies because there will be none. We will also not be able to make anything that is made of steel because steel requires coal in the steel making process, because coal is what makes steel strong and rigid. So therefore, if you ban coal then we cannot make steel, then that means that the iron ore mines will shut down and if you shut down the iron ore mines then you will need ships or trains to move that iron ore. So those companies will be forced out of business. Oh by the way, the car companies cannot manufacture cars with out steel. See what I am driving at? Most people will not realize that coal has a greater effect on the economy than we think. So, I would like to say that in order to protect my job and many other peoples jobs then we cannot even attempt to get rid of the coal mining companies.
I don't have a problem with coal mining necessarily. I simply oppose destroying mountains for coal. Also, I oppose burning coal which should be saved for making steel. I am one of those people who believe the majority of scientists when they say burning fossil fuels fucks up the climate. What people don't realize is that coal emissions cause asthma and heart attacks.
What about cigarettes? Cigarettes cause asthma and heart attacks as well and I do not see all of the environmentalists and the EPA getting all over the cigarette companies. Here is another one for ya. What about all the toxins that are in the solar panels? What are you going to do about that or is green energy companies and other big corporations paying you guys off too?
coolengineer do your arguments make sense to you?
Yes they do and if they don't make sense to you then you really do need to brush up on your English skills.
coolengineer
I don't smoke. Just because smoking cigarettes is harmful doesn't mean it's a good idea to burn coal. They aren't related.
Burning coal contributes to climate change and causes asthma attacks, heart attacks, acid rain, and indirectly causes sludge impoundment failures. Mining for coal causes ground and surface water contamination, the destruction of mountains, subsidence, sinkholes, acid mine drainage, and worsens erosion. Mining for coal underground endangers workers lives, so there is really nothing good about coal.
2020 anyone
I want them for Christmas
where my tech boys at?
"As the U.S. economy continues to struggle" Welcome to today.
It would be nice to watch a video like this without all environmental crazy nonsense. We see what it’s doing in 2022. Way to go environmental nut jobs
18:31 "Drill Baby Drill!"
Hydro while changing the physical environment and some habitats locally, do not add to Global pollution period. HYDRO has benefits in clean energy, flood protection and control, as well as recreation in many installations. What people need to understand is no One energy source is capable of solving our energy needs... For example Solar power output drops 80 to 90 percent on overcast days and the wind does not always blow in most places... FYI, Portable Inverter-Battery units that come with fold out solar panels, (commonly referred to as Solar Generators) , take many hours to charge by the panels they come with and are finite in stored energy .Solar doesn't work at night. There is no comparison to a engine-driven or (*Fuel Cell 📲) powered generator... Energy Tech is changing, but it's not a next week/ Year thing ... Coal and Oil 🪔 is a component we need to some degree in one form or another. It's pollution reduction that is the challenge...
19:30 The Greta of 10 tears ago, and she still went skiing every year!!
Infused back into coal company’s pockets
Coal is not a good source of energy and profits should never come before our one and only habitat. I don't believe most people realize that we are STUCK on this rock. There is an almost zero chance any of us alive today will escape this rock. There is a slightly better chance some of our grandkids might escape, but the chance is still very low. If WE destroy this one and only habitat, WE are doomed as a species. We will be a species that doomed itself by being too shortsighted. Make a buck now, let our descendants deal with the consequences. Not like I'm going to be alive to see it.
freeze in the dark
Complain about burning coal is bad, burning gas is even worse and the same with nuclear power does more damage in the long run..
Actually, the opposite of what you said is true. Natural gas is the cleanest burning fossil fuel and nuclear power plant emit only water vapor. In fact, you get more radiation from coal-fired plants than from nuclear power plants.
I don't think that's true.