Why not actually make Omegasaur an Omega or at least tie some of the stats to a battlecry, that way cheating it out's not as much of a problem anymore, right?
The point of the card was to say how big does a card need to be before people will say it can be played at 10 mana. The problem is the guy decided to make it a beast and lose all design space while he did it.
What if for ol reliable, if you don't have any other weapons it always reequips? Since it doesn't hold any enchantments, it's always a 1-1 unless you buff it that turn specifically? Or make it so it never loses durability but can't be enchanted/your hero can't gain extra attack? The goal of the weapon is clearly to give warrior a ping ability so you'd want to maintain that at the heart of the card.
I'd say that you could even keep the ability to gain attack for the hero with e.g. heroic charge (I think that's the name) but of course the weapon itself shouldn't be enchantable I'm against the reequiping because then it would be impossible to get rid of for your opponent and I think it should be removeable (also weaponsproject would be interesting with this card)
@@thesilvanalyst6880 To balance it maybe increase the cost. About 3 mana would be good given that it can become a permanent 2 attack weapon with greenskin.
@@thesilvanalyst6880 Maybe it's just fine to have a 1 damage weapon be unremovable? Of course it'd be powerful but I don't think that's awful design inherently.
Yeah I didn't quite get the fuss about this card It isn't a Rogue card and Warrior has way less weapon buff synergies. Meanwhile the comparison to Kingsbane is understandable, but it's quite off in the end.
@@drewpeacock9087 I mean, if there is a class that could have it, it is worrior. I just think there should be some counterplay but maybe it would be possible without. It's not inherently bad but definatly feels bad for the opponent if weapon removal tech cards don't work against a weapon... it would grant infinite value...
CuriousMoth no. Choose One is a Druid Keyword, and it’s weird for a single card to have its own weird mechanics separate from an Expansion. This card is bad
Fwiw there is a bit of a difference between hunter having that, and demon hunter having it. Most Demon Hunter damage is own face, they have no spot removal and little access to charge _and_ rush. Whereas hunter has plenty charge, decent spot removal and _tons_ of access to rush.
I think trump's brain is just roping. If he didn't have the thought and reaction speed of a mentally deficient snail in molasses then it would've gotten a higher rating.
I want to suggest a change for "Ol' Reliable" that does keep it's flavor: add the line "cannot be buffed" I love the thought of the hero pulling his sleeve, going in and punching the monsters with his bare hands XD
Smilinturd Think about it- it’s just as good as playing Silverback Patriarch, except you don’t have to worry about it getting sniped by Hemet in Wild. Such a power play.
I think Frostwyrms Call is actually quite well-balanced where it is. Don't forget that cards have value in and of themselves (hence why Moonfire costs 0 but still does damage). A card that is at its best "Spend 2 cards and 7 mana: Destroy all enemy minions and freeze yours" is well-valued relative to the post-nerf "Spend 2 cards and 8 mana: Destroy all enemy minions" that Paladin has in the form of Equality Consecrate. You'd probably have a larger and thus more annoying to freeze board then when you would tempo play Hyldnir Frostrider anyways. That's my argument, I certainly don't think this card warrants 5 mana cost. It would be far too underpowered.
Two things to add here. 1. The Paladin combo has always been equality + pyromancer, which is a 6 mana clear the whole board instead of 8. 2. Never forget that there is a 2 cards slot limit for a reason in the game. Freezemage would run 4-6 copies of frostnova without a second thought. Also a card like Twisting Nether is already good in warlock, it might be completly broken or useless in another class. Thats hard to say.
u dont spend 2 cards beacause it have echo. you spend one and its echo. also dont forget about the quest mage or even older the freeze mage. 6 freeze all minions + 2 cone of cold + 4 freeze a minion it would be more than 10 turns of the oponent playng minions and end turn without doing anyting else. and we all know how fun and interacting that is.
@@alexandrusologon7701 I'm talking about if you use it with Frost Nova, like Trump proposed. And just let Control Mage have its day. I'm almost certain there's enough OTK these days to dissuade a wannabe Freeze Mage
@@alexandrusologon7701 Frost nova plus frostwyrm call is two cards. Freeze mage stopped being a thing when ice block was sent to the HoF, quest rotates out in the next expansion. The potential freeze overload is a valid point but it's a matter of whether another mass freeze card should be printed at all rather than if it should cost 4 or 5 mana. At 5 the card would never be used for any purpose other than stalling, while at 4 it might see use as a removal tool in a non-stall deck
The two-hand could have your other hand in the quest slot. You hover over the quest to see the other hand like you would check quest reward or progress
then the argument could be made what if you ALSO had your quest? yes you will probably have it finished by turn 8, but that doesn’t matter because it IS possible for them both to be up at the same time
@@girakiuzumaki2354 I guess if they printed that card they would fix that interaction, maybe by allowing multiple questslots or being able to overwrite the quest with the hero. What happens when you play quest when you already have quest? Is it nothing or do you replace it?
can’t cast it, just like if you try casting cleave when your opponent has 1 it no minions, or brawl when there are no minions. they would probably just do something else, but that was a good idea. sadly wouldn’t work, so good thing this is a hypothetical card
3:43 To be fair, one of mage's main weaknesses is a lack of big board clears like twisting nether. Get a board of like 4 5/8s or something and mage will have a difficult time removing it all. I mean especially since Mage's biggest board clear, Dragon's Fury, is rotating out.
I'd give Ol' Reliable "Deathrattle: reequip this". That way you always have it equipped, but if you play an enchantment on it it can only attack once before going back to being a 1 attack weapon. Different from Kingsbane, more flavourful since you always have your fist and I feel like hands shouldn't work very well with being enhanced like blades.
2:50 . This spell work with 5 mana and twinspell. This may fix this idea. Frost nova than Frostwyrn call is 7 mana to destroy enemy minions and froze your side
What if Ol' Reliable could never gain attack, and *did* work like a Quest? That way at the cost of having no weapons in your deck (and starting with one less card) you can hit something for 1 every turn. Might still be too good, but I think it's relatively close to printable.
Another thing to note about Hallion Drake is that it will keep silencing itself,so neither buffs nor debuffs such as Freeze or Corruption will work.They could change it to a battlecry.
No. It silences itself. Including the part that says that it will silence itself. It will still silence debuffs/freeze the first time, but only that one time.
it's like how the only pokemon titled "two handed pokemon" is freaking binacle that guy is THE ONLY character in all of warcraft franchise that has two hands
Terrible tank might be a tad strong. Also having a game warping effect on a 2 cost card seems a bit odd. I am afraid some decks can use it to sandbag really efficiently. The design overall is great, I personally would have chosen different stats and mana cost though.
wut, too strong ? most decks can easily remove it and the only thing it does is hide behind your other minions and the card itself doesn't do anything so it's not like you want to hide it anyway
like what decks would use it, aggro would like to protect high attack cards with taunts so Terrible tank would be bad. Control rarely uses minions for stats and usually for the effect they have, so Terrible tank wouldnt really work. Unless we're bringing back the classic handlock combos, i think it would be fine.
@@andrejoss475 meh maybe your are right. I am a bit worried, that some decks just keep putting stat-blocks in the way, but then again all you need is a frost bolt, so it probably is comparable to sunfury. Better in high rolls, worse in low rolls. I guess that is fine... kinda.
Good way to change frostwyrms call. Echo, freeze all minions, summon a 1/1 for your opponent, 4 mana. It seems a little bit weak if it was 5 mana. So by not increasing the cost you will summon one 1/1 for your opponent if you use it with the echo to destroy all minions
The way I'd do Ol' Reliable is to remove the "starts in your hand" feature and make it a 0-attack weapon, so you need to use weapon buffs in order to use it at all. Sort of breaks the idea of it being "reliable", but does reinforce the idea of using a fist as a weapon
I feel like Ol' Reliable could work with a simple "Can't be buffed" line. Would make for a permanent way to weak attack, which I think is what the author meant to do with the card. This would already make the card quite good: easy way to trigger Battle rage on hero, and Execute enabler.
Okay, take trumps redesign of ol reliable and make it a 1/4 "deathrattle: equip ol reliable" (but without the deathrattle) it's like having two arms and then breaking both of them
I think an easy fix for Ol' Reliable would just be that buffs only last for a turn. It still keeps the flavour of the card without making a deck based around it OP.
the only way taz'gal might make sense would be if you just permanently switch to your other hand. that way you don't need to alter the engine to handle two hands at once, you simply get a new hand of all cards discarded by you that game. that does seem like a very underpowered ability, so maybe the new hero power could be: 4 Mana, Refresh all the cards that the new hand originally started with. Meaning at a cost of 4, if you've built up a good repertoire of discarded cards you can infinitely use those for the rest of the game. That sounds kinda fun actually, and it would be quite interactive as the opponent would probably take note of the cards in your 'new hand' so they can play around it with certainty.
For Lieva, instead of reducing the cleric count, reduce her attack to 4 and add an additional effect to Lieva that whenever a card is drawn by them you draw those cards as well. Which basically nullifies the ability to just delete your opponents deck while allowing both sides to draw, it can be used offensively to still mill your opponent, but unless you kill Lieva, they can ruin you by making you draw as well if they have any amount of healing it'd be a real strategy card. You both draw and the minion can't be deathed or pained. Granted this is coming from a Hearthstone noob, just seemed like a neat idea.
Coming back to this, Frostwyrms Call could prob just be 5 mana and twinspell instead of echo, since Ray of Frost combos well with it and it only needed like a 0.5 mana boost.
fast forward to 2020... Kayn Sunfury, ignore taunts is basically the same as the Orgriz Crookmaw card of give the enemy hero taunt... same same but different...
Ol' Reliable: A fix for this: First would be.... Weapon Buffs. Make it so it has something like "At the end of your turn, set Attack Power to 1". Also make it 2 or 3 cost. So no Kingsbane-esque strategy, Another one: Remove the "doesnt lose durability" part and add "Deathrattle: Return to hand". Not much for weapon buffs and 1 mana for 1 ping at the cost of weapons in your deck. Maybe increase cost to 2 mana, hard to tell.
4-mana Frostwyrms Call would make it a freeze version of a Warlock card, which is something Blizzard's already done with cards in the past, so I'd say it makes sense.
Do you really want to sit there for 5 minutes while your opponent ropes and spends all day choosing options on a card that you're just going to one shot with a spell anyway? It's way more interaction than is necessary for a single card.
@@slushyjarl5486 Kazakus is 3 sets of options. I have no recollection of the classic Kazakus rope turns before it got rotated. 4 sets doesn't seem that bad but i'd still reduce it to 3.
I got another idea about the ol' reliable : With the changes Trump said, the "Doesnt lose durability" stays But also, gain the line "That weapon cannot be buffed", or something like that, or some realy specific other legendaries that interact with that specific weapon
I'd say you could get the intended efferct for Hallion Drake like this: "dormant for 1 turn, when this awakens gain charge - still would be kind of weak IMO, though. And Omegasaur could have a text added like "if this is summoned by the effect of any card or minion, destroy this at the end of your turn. (Maybe refine the wording a bit) this would rule out the cheating out of the card and it would add a cool flavour that would also balance out the stats.
For taz'gal, could make it so the hero power is recastable for +1 mana each time (resetting to 0 at end of each turn) Probably be too strong in wild with inspire mechanics tho...
I think it’s important for taz’gal to not show your other hand. It’s a skill testing card, also it’s an 8 mana draw 5 increase your hand capacity to 20 cards. I don’t think it’s weak and I don’t think it needs the preview view
Frostwyrm call's fine tying with Twisting Nether at 4 mana; warlock cards have to be weaker than other class cards anyway since they have a really strong hero power.
Hallion Drake: Interesting thing to note that I'm surprised didn't come up is that the 'at the start of your turn' effect means that it happens every turn meaning that this card could never receive any buffs (or would treat them all as one turn effects), something that arguably makes it weaker than Strangethorn tiger. Taz'Gal: Interesting idea but would be a headache to work into the game and would likely cause a lot of confusion with how effects that are based on the opponent's hand would work (would it include both hands or just the active hand?), would overdrawn cards go into the other hand if it had room? Terrible Tank: I love this card, reminds me of early raids with my guild in WoW and also has a useful effect on top of the comedy value. Frostwyrm's Call: Interesting thing to note with this card is that it has extra utility over Twisting Nether in that it can also theoretically bypass deathrattles which summon minions due to it being able to be cast multiple times (if you can find a way to lower the cost to allow more than 2 casts). Orgriz Crookmaw: I agree that giving a hero taunt is an interesting effect but in all honesty it seems like something that would be more fitting for a spell than a minion (something like 'Greater Hunter's Mark') however the greatest problem I could see with that is that it then becomes a card that the opponent can do very little about (a board full of powerful minions plus this card or my spell version would basically just be an OTK with little recourse outside of things like Ice Block), it very much falls into the same problem that saw a lot of people grow tired of Leeroy Jenkins. Omegasaur: Mech does have ways of cheating out cards (notably mechwarper lowers the cost) and you would then also need to factor in all the possible magnetic cards that could make it a headache to deal with, not to mention that for one card and 10 mana you will have a minion that will likely require a much bigger investment on the part of the opponent to clear (unless they have a targeted hard removal like power word death or assassinate) which makes me think that such a huge statted minion needs to have a drawback attached to it such as having it attack your minions (or possibly your hero) if there are no enemy minions on the board at the start of your turn, something to make those bulky stats a considered choice rather than a straight upgrade. Kydrys, Dragon Chronicler: A very flavorful card but, to quote my old science teacher, 'in most areas of life, simplicity is favored over complexity', it might have worked a lot better if it had something like 'discover a dragon and transform this minion into it', a lot more straight forward and usable while still conveying the same intentions and themes of the card. Lieva the Scheming: Not much else needs to be said here, it's just designed to set the opponent up for massive milling. Sure, it's effective but much like Orgriz earlier, it's a card that leaves very little that the opponent can do in response to this, I'd say a better rework of this would be to put the Northshire clerics into the opponent's hand rather than on their board, forcing the opponent to either open themselves up to milling or to have three dead cards in their hand (which in turn makes them more vulnerable to milling), it reaches the same end but requires more work on the part of the milling player and still allows the defending player to actually take action. Curio Merchant: A decent little tech card, good for what it does. Natural Selection: Decent for token druid, an idea that comes to mind would be to raise the manna cost, and to have it have an effect that encourages targeting a larger minion such as 'destroy a minion, share it's starts out across your other minions' or 'destroy a minion, adapt your other minions a number of times equal to it's mana cost'. Ol' Reliable: I'd say a way to make it work would be to simply clone the Kingsbane effect of having it return to your deck when broken, I'd say that rather than 'keep weapon enchantments' you give it the effect 'gains +1/+0 every time this is equipped/attacks', making it a weapon you can rely on having in your deck at all times (hence the name) while fitting the theme of being a trusty, go-to weapon you know won't let you down and get more familiar with over time (and encouraging a more aggressive, weapon based playstyle from warrior).
I have a card idea but im lazy so ill Just post it here. Tribalmaster (something) 5 mana 3 attack 5 health start of game: add one minion from each tribe to your deck
Lieva the Scheming: Summon 3 existing cards for your opponent that will lead to some rly rly unfun and uninteractive games Trump: 4 stars design Kydrys: Tells a tale, is actually creative in what it does, does a lot but can easily be fixed. Would be super fun to play with and discover uses for it. Trump: 3 Stars in design I really dont think trumps design ratings are consistant at all and are really just kinda worthless
The whole point of Lieva is to mill, and he changed it so it basically can't. If anything, It should be summon 2 clerics for the opponent and one for you, or something of that nature. The card isn't worth playing if all they get is a free 1/3 draw a card minion.
I feel like even with your changes, ol' reliable is still insanely good. Back when pirate warrior was a thing, people put a 1/1 with charge in their deck, because they could get that 1 extra damage to speed their victory along. It also pulled a card out making the deck more consistently good. This card is insane and if made would almost certainly spawn yet another round of warrior having a ridiculously good aggro deck.
Frostwyrm's Call is fine at 4 Mana because even with the "Frost Nova + FC = 7 mana One-Sided Twisting Nether" it still freezes your minions for a turn which is a rather large drawback, making this combo cost 8 and having it freeze your board would be trash tier.
4 choices is 81 different options. That is indeed a lot of possibilities to consider for only one card. Compare and contrast with Kazakus or Rexxar who only give you 9 options at a time when crafting a card. Maybe you are a pure genius and this is nothing to you, but for most people considering 81 different options in roughly one minute is pretty hard.
@@Wolf_ManJack You're right, some options just wouldn't make sense in some context. But that's also the case for the other two cards I mentionned (btw, I made a mistake, Kazakus has 27 options, not 9, my bad) but that's still a lot more than any other card in the game and it could prove dangerous. Now, I'm not saying that I don't like the idea of that card, but a card with that many options is bound to be very powerful for its sheer flexibility. Just look at Branching Paths, even an overpriced effect can be very powerful if you can get exactly what you need, when you need it, and this card basically guarantees that you will get exactly the minion you need. This is compounded by the fact that you have the same options every time and know in advance what you'll be abe to play. So not only would it be very hard to play optimally due to the amount of possibility, there is a pretty high chance that it would break the gale or at least, become a staple in so many decks that we would be sick of seeing it and begging for it to be Hall of Famed.
Trump, isn’t 4 mama frostwyrms call better at 5 mana? It would fit into a big spell mage way easier, counting as 1 more dmg on dragons fury and 2 extra for allana(don’t know how to spell) and in big spell mage the extra two mana only gets rid of either a kelaseth you could play, but it wouldn’t be as effective it playing it on turn 10+ anyway. Or 1 dmg from hero power. So I find that 5 mana frostwyrms call to be a small buff rather than nerf to the card. Edit: note that the one dmg from hero power has to go face if used after second use since all minions are gone (expect for death rattles) so the only way 4 mana is better if no echo is used, but then frostnova...
I'd argue Old Reliable would deserve to at least be a 1/3 if you can't have any other weapons, or a 2/2. Alternatively, adding a 'this cannot be removed' to it might be good, to prevent someone from doing Coin + Ooze and taking away the thing you sacrificed all your weapons for.
You can have other weapons by other than weapon cards themselves. I can think of three. Six if we take conditional ones. Ten if we take Wild options as well. Also, I'd personally make it 1 mana 1/2 weapon that has some kind of text like this "Destroy weapon" effects set this weapon's attack to 0.
Pirate warrior in wild tho. Give it a free ping to push it to tier one forever. You underestimate power of one damage. Patches was op before it lost charge. Its just one damage
frostwyrm would probably be fine at 4. frost nova + wrostwyrm is 2 card 7 mana clear the opponents board and freeze your own minions which is similar to equality consecration.
On Omegasaur being a beast; Kathrena and Oondasta are already unfair cards, you win most games where you're able to use them. Having slightly larger stats wouldn't make it anymore broken because you lose the keywords from the beasts they usually recruit.
@@mr.paperbag771 No either you summon a 3/12 with taunt and instantly win against aggro or you summon an 8/8 charge and instantly win against control Or you could summon a 16/16 and sometimes win or get hard removed. I'd choose the 3/12 taunt or the 8/8 charge over a flat 16/16 most of the time.
Giving warrior a 1/1 start of the game draw this weapon with immune is op. Making it a 1/2 re-equip if theres no other weapons in your deck when this weapon runs out of durability, means that warrior can still A. Use it as a 1/2 ping. B. Use his weapon buffs like upgrade sufficiently, and C makes sure those upgrades won't get crazy out of hand because the weapon isn't immune. Of course warrior most likely won't get a crazy huge weapon considering his good weapon buff is the corsair cache. I honestly think it could've been in a good spot where it was but the immune text on any weapon just makes me hesitant because it limits design space for a developer
I would say, Ol'reliable would lose it's flavor with no "don't lose durability". I would just simply add there "can't be upgraded" to make sure it always deals 1 dmg by itself. Then you can proceed to face tank and fist every enemy
Even with that change, Ol' Reliable would allow you to essentially have a deck with 1 less card in it, at the cost of having no other weapons. Probably overpowered.
Omegasaur doesn't die to meteor. Design 0/10
Omegasaur
Trump: says many good things about the card
Also Trump: 1 star
He was probably talking about the version that wasn’t a beast
wait wth, I was watching this video now and had no idea I had already watched it lol
Why not actually make Omegasaur an Omega or at least tie some of the stats to a battlecry, that way cheating it out's not as much of a problem anymore, right?
Tachi people need to like this
shudderwock
Yeah, omega defender was such a problem in shudderwock decks
@@Section_99 If it got a + 15/15 it would.
The point of the card was to say how big does a card need to be before people will say it can be played at 10 mana. The problem is the guy decided to make it a beast and lose all design space while he did it.
Took a shirt outta Ben Brode's closet.
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If you like the shirt you can get it at Uniqlo. Pretty sure it's the same shirt.
Took a shirt outta Anthony Fantano's closet
@@hensterino just about to comment this. It is a uniqlo shirt
Make the ol' reliable the equivalent to a rouge dagger to give your opponent the ol' 1/2
"Theres too many choices" "Isn't it a bit much to pick 4 times?" *Archivist Elyiana noises*
tHiS sToRy DeSeRvEs A nEw EnDiNg
@shortname your battle cries trigger twice
With this you have to remember the cards, with elysiana no
What if for ol reliable, if you don't have any other weapons it always reequips? Since it doesn't hold any enchantments, it's always a 1-1 unless you buff it that turn specifically?
Or make it so it never loses durability but can't be enchanted/your hero can't gain extra attack? The goal of the weapon is clearly to give warrior a ping ability so you'd want to maintain that at the heart of the card.
I'd say that you could even keep the ability to gain attack for the hero with e.g. heroic charge (I think that's the name) but of course the weapon itself shouldn't be enchantable
I'm against the reequiping because then it would be impossible to get rid of for your opponent and I think it should be removeable (also weaponsproject would be interesting with this card)
@@thesilvanalyst6880 To balance it maybe increase the cost.
About 3 mana would be good given that it can become a permanent 2 attack weapon with greenskin.
@@thesilvanalyst6880 Maybe it's just fine to have a 1 damage weapon be unremovable? Of course it'd be powerful but I don't think that's awful design inherently.
Yeah I didn't quite get the fuss about this card
It isn't a Rogue card and Warrior has way less weapon buff synergies. Meanwhile the comparison to Kingsbane is understandable, but it's quite off in the end.
@@drewpeacock9087 I mean, if there is a class that could have it, it is worrior. I just think there should be some counterplay but maybe it would be possible without. It's not inherently bad but definatly feels bad for the opponent if weapon removal tech cards don't work against a weapon... it would grant infinite value...
2:34 That's the post-change version of Sunfury Protector shown
Lord Doomer that card is stupidly convoluted
@@0IIIIII The more convoluted you make a card, the less Trump can determine balance.
@@0IIIIIIJust needs fewer steps. First choice: dragon stats, second choice: upside + downside. Then it'd be fine.
CuriousMoth no. Choose One is a Druid Keyword, and it’s weird for a single card to have its own weird mechanics separate from an Expansion. This card is bad
He wasn't saying choose one, it's like discover twice, which is what he meant by "Second choice"@@0IIIIII
Dragon Chronicler, design 0 stars. Missed the chance to tell the tale of the man from Gilneas
The two handed guy ui: when you hover your hero power, it shows your other hand
It’s really interesting watching him review orgriz crookmaw now that Kanye is in the game
Are North and Kim also in now?
Hide behind your servants. I will still find you
proto594 you never know how OP decks will become, decent number of cards get power creeped every expansion
Fwiw there is a bit of a difference between hunter having that, and demon hunter having it. Most Demon Hunter damage is own face, they have no spot removal and little access to charge _and_ rush. Whereas hunter has plenty charge, decent spot removal and _tons_ of access to rush.
Kydrys has too many choices to choose when played so can't be printed as it is?
*laughs in Galvadon*
Laughs in Get In Here!
I think trump's brain is just roping. If he didn't have the thought and reaction speed of a mentally deficient snail in molasses then it would've gotten a higher rating.
The difference is that Galvadon has choices that are already known. A single card shouldn’t have its so many unique choices, it’s too complicated
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Wow you are very intelligent. Please go to college before talking to other people online
@@0IIIIII college isnt a reliable achievemnt for intelligence considering einstein skipping college
I want to suggest a change for "Ol' Reliable" that does keep it's flavor: add the line "cannot be buffed"
I love the thought of the hero pulling his sleeve, going in and punching the monsters with his bare hands XD
aviv goldstein as well as cannot be destroyed, imo.
Fits the flavor of the card.
@@ryujinjakka4518 you can still break your hands from punching so much
Got Ol' Reliable's "starts in your hand" completely reversed: it *is* meant to be like a Quest.
Still ridiculously fucking broken
Nice art on Lieva the Scheming! ;D
Curio merchant + stonehill defender in rouge gets you literally nothing
Davia Sturgis Lets you play Stonehill when you have 9 cards in hand without fear of burning a card. Boom.
@@bird3713 the strats are real haha
Smilinturd Think about it- it’s just as good as playing Silverback Patriarch, except you don’t have to worry about it getting sniped by Hemet in Wild. Such a power play.
What about in rogue
"this card is exactly like ultimate infestation" you know except that it doesn't deal 5 damage or summon a 5/5. But yah exactly the same
TheTuneAce It’s Ultimate Infestation, but with 1s as numbers
3:44 it should be 5 mana and twinspell instead of echo
This video was before ros
It really shouldnt, that would give freezemage 6 aoe freezes.
fantano on a red flannel streak and now trump is wearing one damn
He out here to end redditor careers next
Was looking for this comment
Kripp also wore one recently.
Hmm we never saw Trump and Fantano in the same room 🤔🤔🤔
5:54 “and actually fair”
Faceless behemoth cries in a corner
I think Frostwyrms Call is actually quite well-balanced where it is. Don't forget that cards have value in and of themselves (hence why Moonfire costs 0 but still does damage). A card that is at its best "Spend 2 cards and 7 mana: Destroy all enemy minions and freeze yours" is well-valued relative to the post-nerf "Spend 2 cards and 8 mana: Destroy all enemy minions" that Paladin has in the form of Equality Consecrate.
You'd probably have a larger and thus more annoying to freeze board then when you would tempo play Hyldnir Frostrider anyways.
That's my argument, I certainly don't think this card warrants 5 mana cost. It would be far too underpowered.
Gotta remember mage has the apprentice, at 5 cost you play apprentice and it's the same 2 card removal but it takes a potential combo piece.
Two things to add here.
1. The Paladin combo has always been equality + pyromancer, which is a 6 mana clear the whole board instead of 8.
2. Never forget that there is a 2 cards slot limit for a reason in the game. Freezemage would run 4-6 copies of frostnova without a second thought.
Also a card like Twisting Nether is already good in warlock, it might be completly broken or useless in another class. Thats hard to say.
u dont spend 2 cards beacause it have echo. you spend one and its echo. also dont forget about the quest mage or even older the freeze mage. 6 freeze all minions + 2 cone of cold + 4 freeze a minion it would be more than 10 turns of the oponent playng minions and end turn without doing anyting else. and we all know how fun and interacting that is.
@@alexandrusologon7701 I'm talking about if you use it with Frost Nova, like Trump proposed.
And just let Control Mage have its day.
I'm almost certain there's enough OTK these days to dissuade a wannabe Freeze Mage
@@alexandrusologon7701 Frost nova plus frostwyrm call is two cards. Freeze mage stopped being a thing when ice block was sent to the HoF, quest rotates out in the next expansion. The potential freeze overload is a valid point but it's a matter of whether another mass freeze card should be printed at all rather than if it should cost 4 or 5 mana. At 5 the card would never be used for any purpose other than stalling, while at 4 it might see use as a removal tool in a non-stall deck
4:13 predicted that demon hunter legendary
The two-hand could have your other hand in the quest slot. You hover over the quest to see the other hand like you would check quest reward or progress
then the argument could be made what if you ALSO had your quest? yes you will probably have it finished by turn 8, but that doesn’t matter because it IS possible for them both to be up at the same time
@@girakiuzumaki2354 I guess if they printed that card they would fix that interaction, maybe by allowing multiple questslots or being able to overwrite the quest with the hero. What happens when you play quest when you already have quest? Is it nothing or do you replace it?
can’t cast it, just like if you try casting cleave when your opponent has 1 it no minions, or brawl when there are no minions. they would probably just do something else, but that was a good idea. sadly wouldn’t work, so good thing this is a hypothetical card
3:43
To be fair, one of mage's main weaknesses is a lack of big board clears like twisting nether. Get a board of like 4 5/8s or something and mage will have a difficult time removing it all. I mean especially since Mage's biggest board clear, Dragon's Fury, is rotating out.
And then Reno the amazing happened
I like how Tazgal the two handed sounds so special when you say it but its just normal to have two hands
Leica the scheming would be hilarious and so tilting, I approve of it being a sneaky lightforged. We saw that on Draenor.
Jesus if trump was in charge of hearthstone the game would literally be the basic set
At least then we wouldnt have gotten 4 mana 7/7, Dr. 7 and Shudderwock
@@Penelopisk it's more fun to have a few op cards once in a while rather than the boring meta we are currently in
I would rather ladder with basic cards
Hmm basic ladder sounds like a lot of fun, and a true test of skill.
@@livedandletdie everyone would be face hunter.. which literally what it was before naxrammus, something tells me you didn't play during those times
I'd give Ol' Reliable "Deathrattle: reequip this". That way you always have it equipped, but if you play an enchantment on it it can only attack once before going back to being a 1 attack weapon. Different from Kingsbane, more flavourful since you always have your fist and I feel like hands shouldn't work very well with being enhanced like blades.
Guess I'll use Squarespace then...
All cause of trump.
what does Squarespace do ?
@haha offf It squares your spaces if you know what i mean
@@grezy_mechta6809 It's a website that does website stuff.
What a great website
2:50 . This spell work with 5 mana and twinspell. This may fix this idea.
Frost nova than
Frostwyrn call is 7 mana to destroy enemy minions and froze your side
What if Ol' Reliable could never gain attack, and *did* work like a Quest? That way at the cost of having no weapons in your deck (and starting with one less card) you can hit something for 1 every turn. Might still be too good, but I think it's relatively close to printable.
Another thing to note about Hallion Drake is that it will keep silencing itself,so neither buffs nor debuffs such as Freeze or Corruption will work.They could change it to a battlecry.
No. It silences itself. Including the part that says that it will silence itself. It will still silence debuffs/freeze the first time, but only that one time.
Frostwyrm call works at 4. Because even as a seven mana board clear with nova, it still freezes all your minions.
two hand? damn thats interesting
I swear we've seen that before
it's like how the only pokemon titled "two handed pokemon" is freaking binacle
that guy is THE ONLY character in all of warcraft franchise that has two hands
No that'd be too hard for the beginners, they'd never understand the concept of having two h... wait a minute!
I know I love it
Terrible tank might be a tad strong. Also having a game warping effect on a 2 cost card seems a bit odd. I am afraid some decks can use it to sandbag really efficiently. The design overall is great, I personally would have chosen different stats and mana cost though.
wut, too strong ? most decks can easily remove it and the only thing it does is hide behind your other minions and the card itself doesn't do anything so it's not like you want to hide it anyway
like what decks would use it, aggro would like to protect high attack cards with taunts so Terrible tank would be bad. Control rarely uses minions for stats and usually for the effect they have, so Terrible tank wouldnt really work. Unless we're bringing back the classic handlock combos, i think it would be fine.
@@andrejoss475 meh maybe your are right. I am a bit worried, that some decks just keep putting stat-blocks in the way, but then again all you need is a frost bolt, so it probably is comparable to sunfury. Better in high rolls, worse in low rolls. I guess that is fine... kinda.
Noneofyour Business as someone’s who’s trying to get Taunt-Druid to work (Stonehill Defender) I think it’s a lovely card :)
The tank works with hellion drake. Broken
Watching this 3 years late and with how current hearthstone is, its insane to see how he rates these
This is a good card
Design. - 1 star
Balance.- 1 star
Wow, Hearthstone content. Thought this became the AutoChess channel.
Ikr? Lol
These comments are all identical and equally terrible. Enough.
u guys are annoying, now i can understand why people call Dota's fanbase toxic
Fuk Hearthstone don't support Activision they're fuking over everybody I hope he does become an auto chess Channel fuk you
I miss Trump being a Civilization channel for a while or a Darkest Dungeon channel for a while.
Kydrys is pretty op since you can tempo out a 4 mana 5/5 with taunt, divine shield, or rush
Good way to change frostwyrms call. Echo, freeze all minions, summon a 1/1 for your opponent, 4 mana. It seems a little bit weak if it was 5 mana. So by not increasing the cost you will summon one 1/1 for your opponent if you use it with the echo to destroy all minions
The way I'd do Ol' Reliable is to remove the "starts in your hand" feature and make it a 0-attack weapon, so you need to use weapon buffs in order to use it at all.
Sort of breaks the idea of it being "reliable", but does reinforce the idea of using a fist as a weapon
I feel like Ol' Reliable could work with a simple "Can't be buffed" line. Would make for a permanent way to weak attack, which I think is what the author meant to do with the card. This would already make the card quite good: easy way to trigger Battle rage on hero, and Execute enabler.
Okay, take trumps redesign of ol reliable and make it a 1/4 "deathrattle: equip ol reliable" (but without the deathrattle) it's like having two arms and then breaking both of them
I think an easy fix for Ol' Reliable would just be that buffs only last for a turn. It still keeps the flavour of the card without making a deck based around it OP.
the only way taz'gal might make sense would be if you just permanently switch to your other hand. that way you don't need to alter the engine to handle two hands at once, you simply get a new hand of all cards discarded by you that game.
that does seem like a very underpowered ability, so maybe the new hero power could be: 4 Mana, Refresh all the cards that the new hand originally started with. Meaning at a cost of 4, if you've built up a good repertoire of discarded cards you can infinitely use those for the rest of the game.
That sounds kinda fun actually, and it would be quite interactive as the opponent would probably take note of the cards in your 'new hand' so they can play around it with certainty.
For Lieva, instead of reducing the cleric count, reduce her attack to 4 and add an additional effect to Lieva that whenever a card is drawn by them you draw those cards as well. Which basically nullifies the ability to just delete your opponents deck while allowing both sides to draw, it can be used offensively to still mill your opponent, but unless you kill Lieva, they can ruin you by making you draw as well if they have any amount of healing it'd be a real strategy card. You both draw and the minion can't be deathed or pained.
Granted this is coming from a Hearthstone noob, just seemed like a neat idea.
Isn't terrible tank one of Terion minions in lich king PvE ?
In the PvE fight it has no text. It's a vanilla 2 mana 2/3.
the art is the same, but tirion's guy is vanilla, as in, a river crocolisk with no beast tag
Trumps squarespace ad cracks me up lmao
Oh boy if the freeze mage spell would be in the game with twinspell
Anyone here looking at Orgriz? "way overtuned", indeed.
Hide behind your servants, I will still find you
Coming back to this, Frostwyrms Call could prob just be 5 mana and twinspell instead of echo, since Ray of Frost combos well with it and it only needed like a 0.5 mana boost.
I think if you made ol' reliable immune, but un-buffable it could work nicely, you're sacrificing a lot of good cards to make the best use out of it.
for the ol'reliable you could always put in can't obtain any buffs, so it can't gain any more damage, poison or lifesteal. It is still very OP tho
The two handed is perfect for control, you can store 20 cards at once without overdrawing
fast forward to 2020... Kayn Sunfury, ignore taunts is basically the same as the Orgriz Crookmaw card of give the enemy hero taunt... same same but different...
1:46 yeah you can, put another pop up icon like for secrets in the left of the hero portrait
Ol' Reliable:
A fix for this:
First would be.... Weapon Buffs. Make it so it has something like "At the end of your turn, set Attack Power to 1". Also make it 2 or 3 cost.
So no Kingsbane-esque strategy,
Another one:
Remove the "doesnt lose durability" part and add "Deathrattle: Return to hand". Not much for weapon buffs and 1 mana for 1 ping at the cost of weapons in your deck. Maybe increase cost to 2 mana, hard to tell.
4-mana Frostwyrms Call would make it a freeze version of a Warlock card, which is something Blizzard's already done with cards in the past, so I'd say it makes sense.
Its actually sad that 4 options for that 'craft a dragon' card is considered to much to remember.
Do you really want to sit there for 5 minutes while your opponent ropes and spends all day choosing options on a card that you're just going to one shot with a spell anyway? It's way more interaction than is necessary for a single card.
It's 4 SETS of options. 12 options to build through and that makes pretty much a guaranteed rope every turn it's used.
@@slushyjarl5486 Exactly my point.
@@slushyjarl5486 Kazakus is 3 sets of options. I have no recollection of the classic Kazakus rope turns before it got rotated. 4 sets doesn't seem that bad but i'd still reduce it to 3.
@@ingenjannik 3 sets with 2 rotating was pretty miserable too. Never could build the potion you needed.
I got another idea about the ol' reliable :
With the changes Trump said, the "Doesnt lose durability" stays
But also, gain the line "That weapon cannot be buffed", or something like that, or some realy specific other legendaries that interact with that specific weapon
I'd say you could get the intended efferct for Hallion Drake like this: "dormant for 1 turn, when this awakens gain charge - still would be kind of weak IMO, though.
And Omegasaur could have a text added like "if this is summoned by the effect of any card or minion, destroy this at the end of your turn. (Maybe refine the wording a bit) this would rule out the cheating out of the card and it would add a cool flavour that would also balance out the stats.
6:00 The problem you are speaking about is THUNDRA RHINO
"4 choices is too many"
*laughs in Galvadon and Elysiana*
No problem with 10 mana 16/16
Everything changed when conjurer's calling was created
Everything changed when the Mage Nation attacked.
I think the idea of ol reliable being breakable breaks the fantasy of it being your fist
For taz'gal, could make it so the hero power is recastable for +1 mana each time (resetting to 0 at end of each turn)
Probably be too strong in wild with inspire mechanics tho...
I think it’s important for taz’gal to not show your other hand. It’s a skill testing card, also it’s an 8 mana draw 5 increase your hand capacity to 20 cards. I don’t think it’s weak and I don’t think it needs the preview view
Frostwyrm call's fine tying with Twisting Nether at 4 mana; warlock cards have to be weaker than other class cards anyway since they have a really strong hero power.
Hallion Drake: Interesting thing to note that I'm surprised didn't come up is that the 'at the start of your turn' effect means that it happens every turn meaning that this card could never receive any buffs (or would treat them all as one turn effects), something that arguably makes it weaker than Strangethorn tiger.
Taz'Gal: Interesting idea but would be a headache to work into the game and would likely cause a lot of confusion with how effects that are based on the opponent's hand would work (would it include both hands or just the active hand?), would overdrawn cards go into the other hand if it had room?
Terrible Tank: I love this card, reminds me of early raids with my guild in WoW and also has a useful effect on top of the comedy value.
Frostwyrm's Call: Interesting thing to note with this card is that it has extra utility over Twisting Nether in that it can also theoretically bypass deathrattles which summon minions due to it being able to be cast multiple times (if you can find a way to lower the cost to allow more than 2 casts).
Orgriz Crookmaw: I agree that giving a hero taunt is an interesting effect but in all honesty it seems like something that would be more fitting for a spell than a minion (something like 'Greater Hunter's Mark') however the greatest problem I could see with that is that it then becomes a card that the opponent can do very little about (a board full of powerful minions plus this card or my spell version would basically just be an OTK with little recourse outside of things like Ice Block), it very much falls into the same problem that saw a lot of people grow tired of Leeroy Jenkins.
Omegasaur: Mech does have ways of cheating out cards (notably mechwarper lowers the cost) and you would then also need to factor in all the possible magnetic cards that could make it a headache to deal with, not to mention that for one card and 10 mana you will have a minion that will likely require a much bigger investment on the part of the opponent to clear (unless they have a targeted hard removal like power word death or assassinate) which makes me think that such a huge statted minion needs to have a drawback attached to it such as having it attack your minions (or possibly your hero) if there are no enemy minions on the board at the start of your turn, something to make those bulky stats a considered choice rather than a straight upgrade.
Kydrys, Dragon Chronicler: A very flavorful card but, to quote my old science teacher, 'in most areas of life, simplicity is favored over complexity', it might have worked a lot better if it had something like 'discover a dragon and transform this minion into it', a lot more straight forward and usable while still conveying the same intentions and themes of the card.
Lieva the Scheming: Not much else needs to be said here, it's just designed to set the opponent up for massive milling. Sure, it's effective but much like Orgriz earlier, it's a card that leaves very little that the opponent can do in response to this, I'd say a better rework of this would be to put the Northshire clerics into the opponent's hand rather than on their board, forcing the opponent to either open themselves up to milling or to have three dead cards in their hand (which in turn makes them more vulnerable to milling), it reaches the same end but requires more work on the part of the milling player and still allows the defending player to actually take action.
Curio Merchant: A decent little tech card, good for what it does.
Natural Selection: Decent for token druid, an idea that comes to mind would be to raise the manna cost, and to have it have an effect that encourages targeting a larger minion such as 'destroy a minion, share it's starts out across your other minions' or 'destroy a minion, adapt your other minions a number of times equal to it's mana cost'.
Ol' Reliable: I'd say a way to make it work would be to simply clone the Kingsbane effect of having it return to your deck when broken, I'd say that rather than 'keep weapon enchantments' you give it the effect 'gains +1/+0 every time this is equipped/attacks', making it a weapon you can rely on having in your deck at all times (hence the name) while fitting the theme of being a trusty, go-to weapon you know won't let you down and get more familiar with over time (and encouraging a more aggressive, weapon based playstyle from warrior).
It silences its self the hallion Drake so it loses that ability
frostwyrms call fix : twinspell 6 mana
Damn nice shirt trump, looking good!
I have a card idea but im lazy so ill Just post it here. Tribalmaster (something) 5 mana 3 attack 5 health start of game: add one minion from each tribe to your deck
Lieva the Scheming:
Summon 3 existing cards for your opponent that will lead to some rly rly unfun and uninteractive games
Trump: 4 stars design
Kydrys:
Tells a tale, is actually creative in what it does, does a lot but can easily be fixed. Would be super fun to play with and discover uses for it.
Trump: 3 Stars in design
I really dont think trumps design ratings are consistant at all and are really just kinda worthless
Tophat Owl You're confusing design with balance...
@@Ranger1812 So is Trump, so Tophat is not wrong.
@@Ranger1812 Trump doesn't know much about design.
Officially Jan Trump wasn't confusing the two...
Same here for quite some time, but I still watch from time to time ...
When you realize that Trump says that Taz'gal's double hand effect wouldn't have a good enough payoff but secret passage is strong as hell
For his Orgriz comment, i feel that both class cards, and legendaries are fine balance wise being better than neutral cards
The whole point of Lieva is to mill, and he changed it so it basically can't. If anything, It should be summon 2 clerics for the opponent and one for you, or something of that nature. The card isn't worth playing if all they get is a free 1/3 draw a card minion.
I feel like even with your changes, ol' reliable is still insanely good. Back when pirate warrior was a thing, people put a 1/1 with charge in their deck, because they could get that 1 extra damage to speed their victory along. It also pulled a card out making the deck more consistently good. This card is insane and if made would almost certainly spawn yet another round of warrior having a ridiculously good aggro deck.
"this video is sponsored by squarespace, what a great website is squarespace"
Frostwyrm’s call probably would have been op if it had Twinspell instead of you know, Echo.
Frostwyrms call could be 5 mana, but twinspell instead of echo
4:49 Meanwhile Kayn Sunfury
Frostwyrm's Call is fine at 4 Mana because even with the "Frost Nova + FC = 7 mana One-Sided Twisting Nether" it still freezes your minions for a turn which is a rather large drawback, making this combo cost 8 and having it freeze your board would be trash tier.
"Isn't it a bit too much to click four times and remember all the combinations?"
lol imagine playing hearthstone with a memory better than a dead fish
fuck the average player, thats why more complex cards are epic and legendary. fuck.
4 choices is 81 different options. That is indeed a lot of possibilities to consider for only one card. Compare and contrast with Kazakus or Rexxar who only give you 9 options at a time when crafting a card. Maybe you are a pure genius and this is nothing to you, but for most people considering 81 different options in roughly one minute is pretty hard.
@@Wolf_ManJack You're right, some options just wouldn't make sense in some context. But that's also the case for the other two cards I mentionned (btw, I made a mistake, Kazakus has 27 options, not 9, my bad) but that's still a lot more than any other card in the game and it could prove dangerous.
Now, I'm not saying that I don't like the idea of that card, but a card with that many options is bound to be very powerful for its sheer flexibility. Just look at Branching Paths, even an overpriced effect can be very powerful if you can get exactly what you need, when you need it, and this card basically guarantees that you will get exactly the minion you need.
This is compounded by the fact that you have the same options every time and know in advance what you'll be abe to play.
So not only would it be very hard to play optimally due to the amount of possibility, there is a pretty high chance that it would break the gale or at least, become a staple in so many decks that we would be sick of seeing it and begging for it to be Hall of Famed.
Trump, isn’t 4 mama frostwyrms call better at 5 mana? It would fit into a big spell mage way easier, counting as 1 more dmg on dragons fury and 2 extra for allana(don’t know how to spell) and in big spell mage the extra two mana only gets rid of either a kelaseth you could play, but it wouldn’t be as effective it playing it on turn 10+ anyway. Or 1 dmg from hero power. So I find that 5 mana frostwyrms call to be a small buff rather than nerf to the card.
Edit: note that the one dmg from hero power has to go face if used after second use since all minions are gone (expect for death rattles) so the only way 4 mana is better if no echo is used, but then frostnova...
I'd argue Old Reliable would deserve to at least be a 1/3 if you can't have any other weapons, or a 2/2. Alternatively, adding a 'this cannot be removed' to it might be good, to prevent someone from doing Coin + Ooze and taking away the thing you sacrificed all your weapons for.
You can have other weapons by other than weapon cards themselves. I can think of three. Six if we take conditional ones. Ten if we take Wild options as well. Also, I'd personally make it 1 mana 1/2 weapon that has some kind of text like this "Destroy weapon" effects set this weapon's attack to 0.
Pirate warrior in wild tho. Give it a free ping to push it to tier one forever. You underestimate power of one damage. Patches was op before it lost charge. Its just one damage
4:10 demon hunter coming out with a better version
The spirit of ben brode is in your shirt
Wow! Orgriz predicted Kayn Sunfury really closely
outdated mechanic but inspire: one northshire for your opponent could work
Ol' Reliable: If your deck has no other weapons, this starts equipped, Deathrattle: equip an "Ol' Reliable"
frostwyrm would probably be fine at 4. frost nova + wrostwyrm is 2 card 7 mana clear the opponents board and freeze your own minions which is similar to equality consecration.
And thats why equality got nerfed to four mana
And yet the freeze is still better. One mana less and your minions will likely stay alive.
On Omegasaur being a beast; Kathrena and Oondasta are already unfair cards, you win most games where you're able to use them. Having slightly larger stats wouldn't make it anymore broken because you lose the keywords from the beasts they usually recruit.
7/7 vs 16/16
_slightly larger stats_
@@mr.paperbag771
No either you summon a 3/12 with taunt and instantly win against aggro or you summon an 8/8 charge and instantly win against control
Or you could summon a 16/16 and sometimes win or get hard removed.
I'd choose the 3/12 taunt or the 8/8 charge over a flat 16/16 most of the time.
Giving warrior a 1/1 start of the game draw this weapon with immune is op.
Making it a 1/2 re-equip if theres no other weapons in your deck when this weapon runs out of durability, means that warrior can still A. Use it as a 1/2 ping. B. Use his weapon buffs like upgrade sufficiently, and C makes sure those upgrades won't get crazy out of hand because the weapon isn't immune.
Of course warrior most likely won't get a crazy huge weapon considering his good weapon buff is the corsair cache. I honestly think it could've been in a good spot where it was but the immune text on any weapon just makes me hesitant because it limits design space for a developer
I think kydrys looks like each choice adds atleast one mana crystal so 2 mana 2/3 then 3 mana 4/3 after the plus 2 attack ect
Lieva the scheming could be summon x amount of north shire for both players
Taz'gal could have you hover over or right the actual hero power for your second hand.
I would say, Ol'reliable would lose it's flavor with no "don't lose durability". I would just simply add there "can't be upgraded" to make sure it always deals 1 dmg by itself. Then you can proceed to face tank and fist every enemy
Kydrys is creative af. Really like the touch with a story and wordplay in the end. Why 3 stars lol?
Even with that change, Ol' Reliable would allow you to essentially have a deck with 1 less card in it, at the cost of having no other weapons. Probably overpowered.
Make ol reliable unable to be buffed,hence It's just a warrior punching with his fists.
Then the old Version would be fine