I love how they got the mysticism of Dune out there and treated it seriously. Imagine Alia as a baby going through this with Baron Vladimir haunting her.
I don’t think she died just yet bc in the previews for upcoming episodes shows her with some kind of device over her mouth with someone saying she’s close to death.
She's 100% not dead. She's comatose. The preview for Ep3 she's her on a medical bed with monitoring stuff on her face and they say, "she may never wake up". If you're watching shows on MAX you can ffw the end credits to see the previews for next week.
“On a path too short”. Reminds me of the kwisatz Haderach which means “shortening of the way”. Maybe Desmond Hart is some kind of primitive flawed failed kwisatz Haderach that inspires the Bene Gesserit to undergo the breeding program.
Your approval of the show is the most important one. I actually enjoyed it, they are threading with the original Herbert concepts and trying to sideline the Brian contribution. Hope that continues.
My fan theory about what Desmond Hart is (possible spoilers, unless I'm totally wrong of course. I've read all of Frank Herbert's books and most of Brian's/KJA's but not Sisterhood of Dune): ****Possible spoilers**** I think he might be a "false" Kwisatz Haderach. Remember how when Paul and others are tested with the Gom Jabar it's mentioned the reason they conduct these tests is because there have been disasters in the past when males were gifted with prescience? I think Desmond may be the first of those and explains both why he's so confused about his powers and why the Sisterhood have no clue how to deal with him or how he fits into the prophecy. Somehow, when he was swallowed by the sandworm he may have been exposed to their bile (or at least a weakened form since it wasn't drowned) and was connected to any latent potential he had, possibly through Bene Gesserit ancestors. He mentions in this episode being able to see what the Sisters cannot see and there's a lot of parallels in the structure of the episode between him and what Lila goes through as part of the Agony and Other Memory. He could still be a ghola too, but I think that's less likely since if the Tleilaxu have the genetic record of someone massively powerful like Desmond I feel like we would've seen them use and splice that into a lot more gholas and creations in the future books. As for the Sister's prophecy, I think they're still seeing the far future with Paul and the rise of the God-Emperor, but they are misinterpreting that as the threat rather than something now that threatens the Sisterhood's current existence (which would prevent Leto's Golden Path from coming to fruition and thus endangering all of humanity). In this early version of their prophecy they see the tyrant as the threat rather than threats that would block the tyrant's rise to power. They haven't mentioned the Kwisatz Haderach in this show yet so it's possible they're still flying very blind. Again, just my thoughts and a fan theory that popped into my head as I was watching the show. I take no credit if this turns out to be wrong by the very next episode. But if I'm right? I expect my check in the mail. 😎
@manasvenraina351 Thanks! I could be totally off (probably totally off), but it jumped into my head while I was watching and I'm glad the show got my noggin going.
That would be wild - I think the idea would be an entertaining one. What's this with the bile exposure and surviving that worm devouring him though? How, you think??
@justinklenk Still an unkown at this point, but maybe his awakening gave him a similar ability to neutralize poisons as the Bene Gesserit have? If one of his ancestors was a Sister they could have jumped in as his consciousness was fading and helped him maybe? As for surviving the rest of the worm eating him I'm still trying to figure that part out. 🤷♂️
Maybe the overall arc of the show is about a reformation in the sisterhood, a process moved by external factors that moves the sisterhood itself to reforge their order/strategy/beliefs consolidating them as the Bene Gesserit that we come to see in Dune.
Yeah it's moving along better than I expected. The production looks really really good and the writing is good. I keep comparing this to The Acolyte and wow... what a difference. 1/3 of the budget too.
Never heard of Dune before the Villeneuve movies, never read the books, have watched hours of content on this channel. That being said, I find myself constantly craving more of the Dune universe and this has currently satisfied that craving lol. It’s early but I think these first 2 episodes are very promising. This stuff is fascinating.
Yes that one scene that was a bit too long, I thought it was unnecessary but then I remembered it’s very Heretics/Chapterhouse core 🌚 I was just waiting for her to say “my hands are fire”
I enjoyed this episode more than the first. I like how things are moving forward and I am also very intrigued by the mystery of Desmond and his abilities. The fact he can resist the Voice really surprised me and excited me to see what's gonna happen next. I wonder what is gonna happen to Kieran because while he wants to help the Rebellion he has feelings for the Princess, and will he get outed or find a way to keep what he's been up to a secret? I wonder how things are gonna turn out for him since, unless we meet other Atreides offspring we have to assume the line of House Atreides that goes to Duke Leto and Paul goes through Kieran.
The great thing about this story is it gives you a sense of how unimportant the events of our day may be when you look ahead tens of thousands of years. People like John Kennedy or Martin Luther or William the Conqueror may be all but forgotten.
Interesting episode. "A path too short" could _conceivably_ refer to Hart's beeline arrival at Seccundus (sp?) after his inexplicable "rebirth" or whatever that impossible sandworm survival event was. "Born of war" - would that have anything to do with this event arising from having had his fellow soldiers all killed in whatever (alleged!) "attack" took place there?? Or is this referencing a larger war? I do think the Leto II theory is much more compelling and interesting and satisfying, though. 👍
I don’t think Desmond was worried if the voice was going to work on him, I think he was just fucking with Valya. He even says something to that effect afterwards, he was testing her, and she feared he “didn’t care what she said”. Like with the Prince he killed, Desmond again seems to get agitated or drained after burning people for a bit.
This is possibly unrelated, but Travis Fimmel, the actor playing Desmond Hart is wearing a contact in his right eye. You can tell there’s like an orange blotch in the blue. And he has very pure piercing blue eyes. You can really tell he’s wearing a contact in one eye in the first episode. I kind of like the idea that Quinn proposed. Possible Cymek. That would explain how he easily caught the robot lizard. Which I thought was really well done! That lizard was beautiful.
If you wait until the end credits of the episode the trailer for the next episode plays. And there was a clip of Lila with some kind of breathing apparatus on like maybe she’s in a coma? And you see Tula with a cup of golden liquid. Possibly spice to try and save her? Maybe this also leads them to using spice instead of Rossack poison. Which would cause another dynamic if she lives where Lila knows that her great grandmother was killed by the rev mother
Thank Shai Halud u are commenting. This new series deserves to be called Dune. I predict we will find out that the Mithraic guy from Raised by Wolves actually poisoned both characters a la Ninja Scrolls. He poisoned them earlier but it took time to kick in.
I loved the ancestors scene. But not telling her who her other ancestor was definitely is gonna backfire😅. Although we know the BG don't get destroyed I wonder what the result will be. I'm wondering if Desmond ability is related to some secret nanotech 🤔. I don't know all Dune technology but can anyone tell me if Nanotechnology was ever within the Dune verse pre jihad? I'm thinking Mother Superior will teach other Sisters the voice as a result to help them tag team Desmond. We saw her voice somewhat worked so logically multiple should be able to complete the task.
This episode was an improvement over the last. It's really, REALLY strange how both this show and the film seem to be allergic to showing us or even talking about the spacing Guild in any way whatsoever for the most part. It definitely existed at this time and was definitely as important as it is now. It's an intrinsic part of both the universe and its power structure. I'm also starting to think that perhaps this mystery character is either the robot Erasmus himself OR his human son. (who is the first mentat of what will become an entire order equal to other similar groups like Suk doctors and sword masters.)
The first one was fantastic save the stupid sex party garbage. (Yes I know the frehmen have orgies). And the emperor is milk toast but I think he is supposed to be
I find this show enjoyable. As someone who is not a fan of the Villeneuve movies (they were just popcorn summer flicks completely devoid of the novel’s depth), I find this show entertaining enough. Of course, like I commented on Quinn’s live stream, it’s HBO so there will be unnecessary sexytime, and other gratuitous content. But that’s expected.
Thank you for clarifying the Agony differences. That part was pretty confusing for me at first. Also I’ll be so upset is Desmond just ends up being some kind of robot or something
** The problem with the show is its weekly.. The reasons the dune Movies work is because all the slow scene accompany n are payed off with all the cinematic and cool action scenes all within the same time span but with the tv show certain things get drawn out an you don’t get cool action you’ve come to expect with dune…. In short you deal with slow pace so you feel satisfied with the fast action. Can’t be done if I gotta wait 6 weeks to finish the story lol
Something i dont see anyone talking about is Lila's ancestry. She was told that her mother died giving birth ... But grandmother (Dorotea) said during the agony that her mother "is not here." Which makes me think mothers death is a lie. If thats true, this is important. When offered a way out by Tula, "We'll just have to look for other options" ... Perhaps Lila isnt the only one they could attempt Agony with. Mother could be out there. Perhaps hard to reach, or someone who has gone rogue / anti Bene Gesseret (after learning about Valya killing Dorotea?). Or ... And this would be nuts ... But Mikaela, the sister assigned to the rebels, is her mother? I suspect Raquella's line will continue to be central to the show, and is perhaps the one rhing Brian Herbert wanted to influence (for better or worse).
I have to admit im so annoyed that so much of the technology is exactly the same as it is 10000 years later. I also have a personal problem with Desmond's character being exactly the same as HBO's character feom their Raised by wolves show. Also, are they just stealing pauls story arc when he gets stuck in a state where he needed more spice to become saturated? I dont like that
Well since he already played the exact role in raised by wolves, I guess he has a near start I see the MAGA jerk trying to force religion on me when he is on the screen
There's a great thematic irony here: Valya sets herself against the inflexibility of the zealots when she was young. Now she finds herself unwilling to disrupt a plan long in the making, blindsiding her and costing her Kasha's life and ultimately access to the Emperor.
Why? I am a pretty orthodox dune guy. But this is fantastic and 100% true to the spirit of the original universe Of Dune. The drug sex scenes seem stupid and a couple character grate like the playboy prince and the emperor‘z butt ugly hag wife. But otherwise I like it. And the wardrobe isn’t from Parrty City Ike the to show
That is the entire point! He is written to look pussy whipped like milk toast and the director is doing great job reining in the actor so he seems weak, frightened, and inefffectual. He’s supposed to look like a lame duck lamb to slaughter to mix animal metaphors
I don't know how you can write it off so easily. It engages with deep lore in a way the recent movies do not. Check Belen Edwards' article comparing the Agony as portrayed in Dune Part Two with the one in this show. Hardly shallow and ill conceived. We are lucky to get something that doesn't shy away from the deeper spiritual aspects of Dune.
@ For starters, why? The wonderful appeal of the original novels was the ambiguity toward the past. Some histories all but forgotten, if not but cloaked in secrecy. Not everything in a story needs to pinpoint an origin, especially when they’re gluing pointless premises together to try and tie up a whole ten Millenia timeline into some convenient little package. Also throwing around ‘Shai-Hulud’ as a term like they’re referring to a breed of dog. So much for the great secrecy of the Fremen and their hidden cultures as described in the original book, even discarding the fact they wouldn’t have been ‘Fremen’ 10,000 years prior. Add to this that Brian Herbert is a fucking disgrace in regards to his attempt at shallow fan fiction. Just my two cents, but this is pure flaming shit.
@@haplozetetic9519 Firstly, why? One of the major appeals of the original books was the ambiguity toward the past, histories long forgotten, if not shrouded in clandestine motives, depending on the movement. Why does everything need to be pinpointed, to a specific moment or person, especially when they’re attempting to glue the loosest pieces of ten Millenia together into a neat little box that would tie in with the original story. Also throwing around the term ‘Shai-Hulud’ like they’re referring to some breed of dog. So much for the long held secrecy and mystique of the Fremen as outlined in the original, irregardless of the fact that the ‘Fremen’ wouldn’t have come to be 10,000 years prior. Add to this that Brian Herbert and his fan fiction is absolute cheap, teenage garbage. Just my two cents.
I feel like this is some low effort rings of power bs, it’s boring, all the women are ugly and boring, the nightclub sex scene and the one in this episode seemed so out of place and forced and stupid, idk what they were thinking, I hate it
Its just a little slow and spread too thin trying to cover all characters. I was kinda snoozing until the other memory happened which brought me back in. Doesn't suck though.
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I love how they got the mysticism of Dune out there and treated it seriously. Imagine Alia as a baby going through this with Baron Vladimir haunting her.
Frank Herbert would be proud of this. They absolutely nailed Spice Agony and Other Memories' Possession.
I don’t think she died just yet bc in the previews for upcoming episodes shows her with some kind of device over her mouth with someone saying she’s close to death.
She's 100% not dead. She's comatose. The preview for Ep3 she's her on a medical bed with monitoring stuff on her face and they say, "she may never wake up".
If you're watching shows on MAX you can ffw the end credits to see the previews for next week.
Lila?
Like some Chosen One after his hubris left him burning on the shores of a volcanic planet 😉
Yes. She is seemingly catatonic currently. They show the Sisters attempting to “revive” her
“On a path too short”. Reminds me of the kwisatz Haderach which means “shortening of the way”. Maybe Desmond Hart is some kind of primitive flawed failed kwisatz Haderach that inspires the Bene Gesserit to undergo the breeding program.
@@awesomehpt8938 No. You’re just desperately trying to fill in gaps that aren’t even there, in a show/story that shouldn’t be here.
They're already doing the breeding program.
@@MrEnjoivolcom1 the goals of the program could evolve over time
The Proto KH!
@@MinhFong-p6m Lame.
so insane how big this channel is now compared to 2016.. much luv, glad to see the success you have found
Your approval of the show is the most important one. I actually enjoyed it, they are threading with the original Herbert concepts and trying to sideline the Brian contribution. Hope that continues.
My fan theory about what Desmond Hart is (possible spoilers, unless I'm totally wrong of course. I've read all of Frank Herbert's books and most of Brian's/KJA's but not Sisterhood of Dune):
****Possible spoilers****
I think he might be a "false" Kwisatz Haderach. Remember how when Paul and others are tested with the Gom Jabar it's mentioned the reason they conduct these tests is because there have been disasters in the past when males were gifted with prescience? I think Desmond may be the first of those and explains both why he's so confused about his powers and why the Sisterhood have no clue how to deal with him or how he fits into the prophecy. Somehow, when he was swallowed by the sandworm he may have been exposed to their bile (or at least a weakened form since it wasn't drowned) and was connected to any latent potential he had, possibly through Bene Gesserit ancestors. He mentions in this episode being able to see what the Sisters cannot see and there's a lot of parallels in the structure of the episode between him and what Lila goes through as part of the Agony and Other Memory.
He could still be a ghola too, but I think that's less likely since if the Tleilaxu have the genetic record of someone massively powerful like Desmond I feel like we would've seen them use and splice that into a lot more gholas and creations in the future books. As for the Sister's prophecy, I think they're still seeing the far future with Paul and the rise of the God-Emperor, but they are misinterpreting that as the threat rather than something now that threatens the Sisterhood's current existence (which would prevent Leto's Golden Path from coming to fruition and thus endangering all of humanity). In this early version of their prophecy they see the tyrant as the threat rather than threats that would block the tyrant's rise to power. They haven't mentioned the Kwisatz Haderach in this show yet so it's possible they're still flying very blind.
Again, just my thoughts and a fan theory that popped into my head as I was watching the show. I take no credit if this turns out to be wrong by the very next episode. But if I'm right? I expect my check in the mail. 😎
Interesting theory.
@manasvenraina351 Thanks! I could be totally off (probably totally off), but it jumped into my head while I was watching and I'm glad the show got my noggin going.
That would be wild - I think the idea would be an entertaining one.
What's this with the bile exposure and surviving that worm devouring him though? How, you think??
@justinklenk Still an unkown at this point, but maybe his awakening gave him a similar ability to neutralize poisons as the Bene Gesserit have? If one of his ancestors was a Sister they could have jumped in as his consciousness was fading and helped him maybe? As for surviving the rest of the worm eating him I'm still trying to figure that part out. 🤷♂️
if Desmond had been poisoned by the sand worm water of life, he should get Eyes of Ibad, don't you think ?
Maybe the overall arc of the show is about a reformation in the sisterhood, a process moved by external factors that moves the sisterhood itself to reforge their order/strategy/beliefs consolidating them as the Bene Gesserit that we come to see in Dune.
I really hope they are talking about Leto II and not Desmond. That would be so dope.
Yeah it's moving along better than I expected. The production looks really really good and the writing is good. I keep comparing this to The Acolyte and wow... what a difference. 1/3 of the budget too.
The horror elements in this episode were really well done. I was intrigued by that part.
Never heard of Dune before the Villeneuve movies, never read the books, have watched hours of content on this channel.
That being said, I find myself constantly craving more of the Dune universe and this has currently satisfied that craving lol. It’s early but I think these first 2 episodes are very promising. This stuff is fascinating.
Same. I’m going to have to eventually read the books though ha ha
Yes that one scene that was a bit too long, I thought it was unnecessary but then I remembered it’s very Heretics/Chapterhouse core 🌚 I was just waiting for her to say “my hands are fire”
"Born once in blood and once in spice" sounds like surviving the Agony of Spice to me...
I enjoyed this episode more than the first. I like how things are moving forward and I am also very intrigued by the mystery of Desmond and his abilities. The fact he can resist the Voice really surprised me and excited me to see what's gonna happen next. I wonder what is gonna happen to Kieran because while he wants to help the Rebellion he has feelings for the Princess, and will he get outed or find a way to keep what he's been up to a secret? I wonder how things are gonna turn out for him since, unless we meet other Atreides offspring we have to assume the line of House Atreides that goes to Duke Leto and Paul goes through Kieran.
The great thing about this story is it gives you a sense of how unimportant the events of our day may be when you look ahead tens of thousands of years. People like John Kennedy or Martin Luther or William the Conqueror may be all but forgotten.
Maybe he is the Bene Tleilax kwisatz haderach. Probably not, just a thought that occurred to me watching today’s episode.
Interesting episode.
"A path too short" could _conceivably_ refer to Hart's beeline arrival at Seccundus (sp?) after his inexplicable "rebirth" or whatever that impossible sandworm survival event was.
"Born of war" - would that have anything to do with this event arising from having had his fellow soldiers all killed in whatever (alleged!) "attack" took place there?? Or is this referencing a larger war?
I do think the Leto II theory is much more compelling and interesting and satisfying, though. 👍
I don’t think Desmond was worried if the voice was going to work on him, I think he was just fucking with Valya. He even says something to that effect afterwards, he was testing her, and she feared he “didn’t care what she said”.
Like with the Prince he killed, Desmond again seems to get agitated or drained after burning people for a bit.
The Voice Simply did not work on him. U r right. He was playing her and she looked pretty bad.
This is possibly unrelated, but Travis Fimmel, the actor playing Desmond Hart is wearing a contact in his right eye. You can tell there’s like an orange blotch in the blue. And he has very pure piercing blue eyes. You can really tell he’s wearing a contact in one eye in the first episode. I kind of like the idea that Quinn proposed. Possible Cymek. That would explain how he easily caught the robot lizard. Which I thought was really well done! That lizard was beautiful.
If you wait until the end credits of the episode the trailer for the next episode plays. And there was a clip of Lila with some kind of breathing apparatus on like maybe she’s in a coma? And you see Tula with a cup of golden liquid. Possibly spice to try and save her? Maybe this also leads them to using spice instead of Rossack poison. Which would cause another dynamic if she lives where Lila knows that her great grandmother was killed by the rev mother
Thank Shai Halud u are commenting. This new series deserves to be called Dune. I predict we will find out that the Mithraic guy from Raised by Wolves actually poisoned both characters a la Ninja Scrolls. He poisoned them earlier but it took time to kick in.
I loved the ancestors scene. But not telling her who her other ancestor was definitely is gonna backfire😅. Although we know the BG don't get destroyed I wonder what the result will be.
I'm wondering if Desmond ability is related to some secret nanotech 🤔. I don't know all Dune technology but can anyone tell me if Nanotechnology was ever within the Dune verse pre jihad?
I'm thinking Mother Superior will teach other Sisters the voice as a result to help them tag team Desmond. We saw her voice somewhat worked so logically multiple should be able to complete the task.
This episode was an improvement over the last. It's really, REALLY strange how both this show and the film seem to be allergic to showing us or even talking about the spacing Guild in any way whatsoever for the most part. It definitely existed at this time and was definitely as important as it is now. It's an intrinsic part of both the universe and its power structure. I'm also starting to think that perhaps this mystery character is either the robot Erasmus himself OR his human son. (who is the first mentat of what will become an entire order equal to other similar groups like Suk doctors and sword masters.)
Remember everyone! Make sure you put on sun tan lotion or you’ll end up looking like the bene gesserit and the little boy
I could do without the sister and brother Carrino! They are the weakest link to me.
Im invested enough. if nothing else i'll watch for Mark Stong's costuming which is amazzing.
I will admit that this episode was a slight improvement over the first episode.
Travis Fimmel is absolutely carrying the show. More of him = better
The first one was fantastic save the stupid sex party garbage. (Yes I know the frehmen have orgies). And the emperor is milk toast but I think he is supposed to be
I find this show enjoyable. As someone who is not a fan of the Villeneuve movies (they were just popcorn summer flicks completely devoid of the novel’s depth), I find this show entertaining enough. Of course, like I commented on Quinn’s live stream, it’s HBO so there will be unnecessary sexytime, and other gratuitous content. But that’s expected.
Prophecy is just Mean Girls in space
Stop pulling our dicks!
Desmond is by far the most interesting character in the show.
Thank you for clarifying the Agony differences. That part was pretty confusing for me at first. Also I’ll be so upset is Desmond just ends up being some kind of robot or something
** The problem with the show is its weekly.. The reasons the dune Movies work is because all the slow scene accompany n are payed off with all the cinematic and cool action scenes all within the same time span but with the tv show certain things get drawn out an you don’t get cool action you’ve come to expect with dune…. In short you deal with slow pace so you feel satisfied with the fast action. Can’t be done if I gotta wait 6 weeks to finish the story lol
Hart v Reverend hooked me for the next episode.
Im so curious how he fits
Something i dont see anyone talking about is Lila's ancestry. She was told that her mother died giving birth ... But grandmother (Dorotea) said during the agony that her mother "is not here." Which makes me think mothers death is a lie.
If thats true, this is important. When offered a way out by Tula, "We'll just have to look for other options" ... Perhaps Lila isnt the only one they could attempt Agony with. Mother could be out there. Perhaps hard to reach, or someone who has gone rogue / anti Bene Gesseret (after learning about Valya killing Dorotea?).
Or ... And this would be nuts ... But Mikaela, the sister assigned to the rebels, is her mother?
I suspect Raquella's line will continue to be central to the show, and is perhaps the one rhing Brian Herbert wanted to influence (for better or worse).
Yes. No fillers. I think there will be a season 2
I'm loving this show thus far. But I think some of the more critical opinions are based in sheer impatience. Dune is not meant for the impatient.
I have to admit im so annoyed that so much of the technology is exactly the same as it is 10000 years later. I also have a personal problem with Desmond's character being exactly the same as HBO's character feom their Raised by wolves show.
Also, are they just stealing pauls story arc when he gets stuck in a state where he needed more spice to become saturated? I dont like that
At the time of the show, they may not have seen a coma like Paul's yet. There's no reason it couldn't have happened in this case.
The spice must flow.
You put me on to the Three Body books and help me sleep, least I can do is give you my thumbs. 👍
Was a really good episode
Bro did you get an early release or do this so quick 😂
I am wondering the same. Some people got 4 of 6 episodes for advanced review.
Why did she not use the weirding way on Hart? She could have taken him out.
I really enjoyed this episode.
Travis Fimmel's character is completely carrying the show for me
Is that the Emperor's wife?
Well since he already played the exact role in raised by wolves, I guess he has a near start I see the MAGA jerk trying to force religion on me when he is on the screen
the goat uploaded
There's a great thematic irony here: Valya sets herself against the inflexibility of the zealots when she was young. Now she finds herself unwilling to disrupt a plan long in the making, blindsiding her and costing her Kasha's life and ultimately access to the Emperor.
Excited to watch these episodes and tune in to see what you have to say. 🎉🎉🎉
Quinn will you review the Xeelee Sequence?
What if Desmond is a Psuedo Qwizas Haderach
I liked this episode but I really hope he’s. Tlexalou or something
Desmond is a ghol ya think?
Yay another video. 😀
Thanks for this review. I have a request. Can you also watch Steins;Gate and give us your review?
It was super good got really horror tho tf owards the end
This comment section is so much better that Reddit. Just horrible takes there.
I made it 10 minutes into the first episode and gave up on it.
Why? I am a pretty orthodox dune guy. But this is fantastic and 100% true to the spirit of the original universe Of Dune. The drug sex scenes seem stupid and a couple character grate like the playboy prince and the emperor‘z butt ugly hag wife. But otherwise I like it. And the wardrobe isn’t from Parrty City
Ike the to show
Damm you fast
I hate how weak they are writing the emperor. He's manipulated and trodden on by everyone including his wife.
That is the entire point! He is written to look pussy whipped like milk toast and the director is doing great job reining in the actor so he seems weak, frightened, and inefffectual. He’s supposed to look like a lame duck lamb to slaughter to mix animal metaphors
I'm done not watching anymore of this Tv show.
First!
Third
I found the first episode very boring
Not once in universe did anyone refer to the Sisterhood as Bene Gesserit.
poggers uwu
NGL, the show is kinda boring and feels a little cheap. 😢
It is a little boring but visually looks pretty good. Looks way better than Star Wars.
@manasvenraina351 except Andor.
could we in the future avoid the thumbnail being a spoiler thanks
Such an unnecessary, pointless show. Cheap, shallow and ill conceived. Pure anti-Dune.
Could you elaborate? I haven't decided yet.
I don't know how you can write it off so easily. It engages with deep lore in a way the recent movies do not. Check Belen Edwards' article comparing the Agony as portrayed in Dune Part Two with the one in this show. Hardly shallow and ill conceived. We are lucky to get something that doesn't shy away from the deeper spiritual aspects of Dune.
@ For starters, why? The wonderful appeal of the original novels was the ambiguity toward the past. Some histories all but forgotten, if not but cloaked in secrecy. Not everything in a story needs to pinpoint an origin, especially when they’re gluing pointless premises together to try and tie up a whole ten Millenia timeline into some convenient little package. Also throwing around ‘Shai-Hulud’ as a term like they’re referring to a breed of dog. So much for the great secrecy of the Fremen and their hidden cultures as described in the original book, even discarding the fact they wouldn’t have been ‘Fremen’ 10,000 years prior. Add to this that Brian Herbert is a fucking disgrace in regards to his attempt at shallow fan fiction. Just my two cents, but this is pure flaming shit.
@@haplozetetic9519 Firstly, why? One of the major appeals of the original books was the ambiguity toward the past, histories long forgotten, if not shrouded in clandestine motives, depending on the movement. Why does everything need to be pinpointed, to a specific moment or person, especially when they’re attempting to glue the loosest pieces of ten Millenia together into a neat little box that would tie in with the original story. Also throwing around the term ‘Shai-Hulud’ like they’re referring to some breed of dog. So much for the long held secrecy and mystique of the Fremen as outlined in the original, irregardless of the fact that the ‘Fremen’ wouldn’t have come to be 10,000 years prior. Add to this that Brian Herbert and his fan fiction is absolute cheap, teenage garbage. Just my two cents.
@@the_journeyman_projectIt’s terrible, disposable garbage that’s as spiritual as I am as an atheist.
I feel like this is some low effort rings of power bs, it’s boring, all the women are ugly and boring, the nightclub sex scene and the one in this episode seemed so out of place and forced and stupid, idk what they were thinking, I hate it
The show sucks sorry
Its just a little slow and spread too thin trying to cover all characters. I was kinda snoozing until the other memory happened which brought me back in. Doesn't suck though.
Over your head. Not shows fault.
That sex scene caught me wayyyyy off guard
He is a golaaaaaaaaaaa