To me, it can be more useful sometimes to build a special faster not with special charge up, but by actually inking faster by using ink saver main, swim speed, or run speed. They are great to use in tandem with special charge up.
InuYasha6651 that was my thought as well, at some point the return you get from more special up isn’t as worthwhile as the extra second you can shoot ink from ink saver or the extra space you cover with run/swim speed up
A full build of Special Saver seems to actually save more than 100% of your special (100.3%) So in theory you'd actually gain a bit of special charge after getting splatted?
I did not know about this site, I'm very glad you showed it to us. Now I can use it to figure out exactly what the abilities are doing, and create the build that I want without any guessing! Thank you :)
Warning: long post below with some basic mathematics. I really hope you all appreciate this. TL;DR: Special charge up is more effective with higher inking weapons and with lower points needed for special; also, when looking at specials charged per match, diminishing returns is less dramatic ***************************************** DIMINISHING RETURNS IS LESS DRAMATIC WHEN CONSIDERING NUMBER OF SPECIALS CHARGED VERSUS POINTS PER SPECIAL Do keep in mind that diminishing returns appears to over-compensate. Consider if you ink X points in a match (without dying and without waste) and your special takes (180-15y) to charge. With one main of special charge up, your special takes 165 points to charge. For a match where you ink 700 points, you go from 3.89 specials charged to 4.24 specials charged (0.35 more specials). Adding another main with no diminishing returns would make it 150 points for a special. In our 700 point example, you get 4.67 specials, which is a 0.43 increase from one main! Three mains in this case would be 135 points for a special, or 5.19 specials in our 700 match (increased by 0.52 specials from two). So there are two reasons why the second or third main isn't as effective. The first is diminishing returns, which is what you already normally think of. The second reason is the linear deduction of 180 to 165 to 150 points per special would require more from special charge up than a linear increase of 3.89 to 4.24 to 4.59 specials per match would. HIGHER INKING WEAPONS PROFIT MORE FROM SPECIAL CHARGE UP With this in mind, if special charge up works the same for every weapon with 180 points to charge a special, those that typically ink the most in a match will benefit the most from it. I will compare two matches, one inking 500 points and another inking 1000 points, both having 180 points for a special normally and 165 points for a special with gear: 500 points, normal: 2.778 specials 500 points, with gear: 3.030 specials Special charge up profit: 0.252 more specials per match 1000 points, normal: 5.556 specials 1000 points, with gear: 6.061 specials Special charge up profit: 0.505 more specials per match The higher inking weapon gained more specials from the same amount of special charge up. SO HOW MUCH SPECIAL CHARGE UP SHOULD I RUN? While stacking an absurd amount of special charge up does get to 1 or 0 points per sub, a careful analysis of things like ~ how much ink you put out in an average match, ~ how often you die per match (reducing by a multiplicative factor; when trying to consider how full your special usually is when you die, it gets stupid complicated), ~ how often you use your special per match/how many points you waste because you inked when your special was charged per match (do you pop your special right away?) ~ how important an additional special would be/how strategic your specials are (compare stingray on tower control versus a less game-changing special) ~ opportunity cost of those gear slots (and so on) can help you determine what amount of special charge up would get you another special per match, on average, which may mean the difference between victory and defeat. This may happen at one main of special charge up, but it might happen at two mains of special charge up. Even without so complex an analysis, think: higher-inking weapon = better results from special charge up (when weapons have same points to charge special). To figure out how much special charge up would help you, record the number of specials you use in a match. Pay attention: ~ if you inked 1000 turf and (from the earlier example) thus should have gotten 5 whole specials to use but only used 3, why is that? Are you dying a lot? Or are you holding on to your special for the right moment? ~ if you use 4 or 5 specials out of 5 on a round, you'll probably get to use another special by adding special charge up. Even if your specials in a round doesn't pass a whole number (so 5.1 --> 5.6), it might help; if you die during the round and loose 20% of your special gauge, you just went from 5.1 to 4.9 specials possible in the round. With special charge up, you'd go from 5.6 to 5.4 specials possible. BUT REALLY, HOW MUCH SHOULD I RUN? Up to you. But crunch some numbers. The following are examples, with average ink per round guessed. (at this point I would crunch many numbers about DUDE's favorite weapons, factoring in how often he dies, if he's more/less likely to die while using special or with high special buildup, etc, but I haven't actually seen him play a lot of standard matches ^_^; ) Inkbrush, average 1000 points a round, 160 points to special (1 main: 146; 2 mains: 137; 3 mains: 130) Yield: No gear: 6.25 1 main: 6.85 2 mains: 7.30 3 mains: 7.70 If you think you die enough and/or hold your special enough that 6.25 and 6.85 would yield a different number of specials you get to use (but 6.85 and 7.30 are effectively the same), you should run one main or three mains. If you don't think you die/hold enough, 6.25 and 6.85 are the same to you. You should run zero or two mains. Splat charger, average 650 points a round, 190 points to special (1:174; 2:163; 3:155) Yield: None: 3.42 1: 3.74 2: 3.99 3: 4.19 If you're confident that you usually don't die, don't hold your special, and would ink more than 650 points a round, run two mains. If you want. (but why?) If you find you usually get two specials in a round, consider why (dying? Or holding a fully charged special?) and run special charge up or special saver accordingly. If you use three specials on average and REALLY want the fourth, you might have to run a lot of special charge up. Or focus on inking more in matches. Or pick a different weapon. Tentatek Splattershot, average 800 points a round, 210 points to special (1:192; 2:180; 3:171) Yield: None: 3.81 1: 4.17 2: 4.44 3: 4.68 Tentatek Splattershot, average 1000 points a round, 210 points to special (1:192; 2:180; 3:171) Yield: None: 4.76 1: 5.21 2: 5.56 3: 5.85 A very interesting thing to note is although special charge up seems to do more when your specials take more points to charge (160 --> 146 vs 210 --> 192), it's a larger gap. Thus, even with 1000 points on each weapon, the 18 points saved per special might be getting you 0.45 more specials per round on the tentatek while the 14 points saved per special might be getting you 0.60 more specials per round on the inkbrush. Weird stuff.
Thanks. Octo expansion spoilers ahead in my comment. I finished the secret final boss that spams ultimates. I got the gold toothpick reward. I will stack special charge on that and stop there.
I don't rely much to Special Charge Up or Special Savers because there's gonna be a way someone is going to splat me before or during using my special such as Inkjet, Tenta Missles, and Splashdown. So, it puts all my effort of raising my special bar to shame in an instant.
Respawn Punisher is what I typically use in ranked modes. The extra time it takes for the opponents to get back in the game makes quite the difference. Just make sure you slap on some Special Saver to counterbalance the effect it has when you get splatted.
The reason you got inconsistent reductions with those sub abilities is because the game (or the website) rounds off the numbers. An even better way of eyeballing how much of an effect you'll receive per ability point (main=10, sub=3) would be to take a look at Inkipedia's graph of ability stacking effects below: cdn.wikimg.net/splatoonwiki/images/b/b5/S2_Ability_Overview_Chart.png Graphically, diminishing returns are when the line begins to level out, e.g. Ink Saver Main seems to experience this only at very high stacks, maybe at ~45 points? Special Charge and Swim Speed begin their diminishing returns pretty early on, and on top of that they never really experience a tremendous increase anyway, capping at 120-125%.
My usual gear is: Opening Gambit - Sp Charge, Swim Spd, Ink Recov Haunt - Sp Charge, Swim Spd, Ink Recov Sp Charge - Sp Charge, Swim Spd, Ink Recov I mostly use this casually but I like it lol
I use one main, and three subs for an N-zapper with well, ink armor, in my opinion, that works wonders, like two more specials in one match or something, which doesn't make up for the fact that I suck, but it makes me feel more usefull, sometimes.
hey dude, do you think you could do bomb defence up for the next perk in this series? i know people have pretty mixed opinions on it and i'd love to hear your input
I run 1 main and 3 Subs. And watching you place them on the gear there’s only a one point difference between that and having 2 mains. You might as well go for the 1and 3 Subs and use the other main for something else to have a stronger effect.
Don't tell me to over-stack anything. I'm aware that stacking abilities diminishes them, but I have plans to make a hardcore meme loadout of nothing but special charge ups so I can rain down hell with tenta-missiles, and to do that, I'm going need *EVERY. SINGLE. LAST. MINUSCULE BIT THAT I CAN GET.*
I hate to be that guy, but could someone tell me what song is in the background? I definitely recognize it, but I can't remember where it's from for the life of me. I kinda wanna say it's from A Hat in Time, but hell if I know. Anyways, great video as always, Dude. I only use 1 main of SCU on one of my inkbrush sets, which is really enough for me, but it's good to know I'm not missing out on much by not stacking more. I don't really have enough room to stack any.
Anyone know a good loadout for all abilities for the forge pro? I’m using Ink saver main (1main 3subs) swim speed (1main3subs) and ink resistance (1main3subs) at the moment but I want to know if there’s something more beneficial
To: ThatSrbDude Splatoon 2 had received a new patch (v2.0). See this board www.gamefaqs.com/boards/200279-splatoon-2/76024576 This patch will increase the number of tri-slosher users. The patch will undone some of patch 1.3 and 1.1.2 changes to the tri-slosher. Since patch 1.3, I notice a large drop in the number of tri-slosher user in rank battle.
*That moment when Dude realizes he's just revealed a site that renders this entire series obsolete...*
Tracer Bullet haha! u right
But it's impossible to use on my phone so...
Right up until it stopped being updated which made it obsolete
@@lamegamertime when was that
@@quintongareau-hames7903 nvm, they switched to a new site. But the one in the description of THIS video isn't up to date.
Dang, I ran a lot of special charge for my Nzap build for so long lol. Gonna add swim speed and other stuff to my build then
Ryanator ayy good to see you here
To me, it can be more useful sometimes to build a special faster not with special charge up, but by actually inking faster by using ink saver main, swim speed, or run speed. They are great to use in tandem with special charge up.
InuYasha6651 that was my thought as well, at some point the return you get from more special up isn’t as worthwhile as the extra second you can shoot ink from ink saver or the extra space you cover with run/swim speed up
Thank you Dude for being the one splatoon TH-camr that isn’t cringy/annoying ❤️
Noah Vega I agree but there are other that are on DUDE's level that are not cringe too like Penguitt, Power, Silver, Sendou.. : )
Etce? I like him. But he doesn't do videos like these
A full build of Special Saver seems to actually save more than 100% of your special (100.3%)
So in theory you'd actually gain a bit of special charge after getting splatted?
Might round down
Isn't there diminishing returns with everything?
Yes, so this would apply to every stackable ability.
Yeah, only Ink Saver Main seems to be less affected by it, and it still has some.
HiroProtagonest ink saver main has the lowest diminishing returns in the game, stacking it on ink hungry weapons is really good
I stacked swim speed and its really great
Really? That's good to know.
I did not know about this site, I'm very glad you showed it to us. Now I can use it to figure out exactly what the abilities are doing, and create the build that I want without any guessing! Thank you :)
I only have 3 subs and 1 main of it so I THINK I’m good. Thanks for the info, Dude!
Vsauce Puppet I also run a set similar to that
I have a pure of Special Charge
U FRIGGEN EVERYWHERE
@@hypehatesyou got a pure golden toothpick so I'm good
Me too.
Warning: long post below with some basic mathematics.
I really hope you all appreciate this.
TL;DR: Special charge up is more effective with higher inking weapons and with lower points needed for special; also, when looking at specials charged per match, diminishing returns is less dramatic
*****************************************
DIMINISHING RETURNS IS LESS DRAMATIC WHEN CONSIDERING NUMBER OF SPECIALS CHARGED VERSUS POINTS PER SPECIAL
Do keep in mind that diminishing returns appears to over-compensate. Consider if you ink X points in a match (without dying and without waste) and your special takes (180-15y) to charge. With one main of special charge up, your special takes 165 points to charge. For a match where you ink 700 points, you go from 3.89 specials charged to 4.24 specials charged (0.35 more specials).
Adding another main with no diminishing returns would make it 150 points for a special. In our 700 point example, you get 4.67 specials, which is a 0.43 increase from one main! Three mains in this case would be 135 points for a special, or 5.19 specials in our 700 match (increased by 0.52 specials from two).
So there are two reasons why the second or third main isn't as effective. The first is diminishing returns, which is what you already normally think of. The second reason is the linear deduction of 180 to 165 to 150 points per special would require more from special charge up than a linear increase of 3.89 to 4.24 to 4.59 specials per match would.
HIGHER INKING WEAPONS PROFIT MORE FROM SPECIAL CHARGE UP
With this in mind, if special charge up works the same for every weapon with 180 points to charge a special, those that typically ink the most in a match will benefit the most from it. I will compare two matches, one inking 500 points and another inking 1000 points, both having 180 points for a special normally and 165 points for a special with gear:
500 points, normal:
2.778 specials
500 points, with gear:
3.030 specials
Special charge up profit: 0.252 more specials per match
1000 points, normal:
5.556 specials
1000 points, with gear:
6.061 specials
Special charge up profit: 0.505 more specials per match
The higher inking weapon gained more specials from the same amount of special charge up.
SO HOW MUCH SPECIAL CHARGE UP SHOULD I RUN?
While stacking an absurd amount of special charge up does get to 1 or 0 points per sub, a careful analysis of things like
~ how much ink you put out in an average match,
~ how often you die per match (reducing by a multiplicative factor; when trying to consider how full your special usually is when you die, it gets stupid complicated),
~ how often you use your special per match/how many points you waste because you inked when your special was charged per match (do you pop your special right away?)
~ how important an additional special would be/how strategic your specials are (compare stingray on tower control versus a less game-changing special)
~ opportunity cost of those gear slots
(and so on) can help you determine what amount of special charge up would get you another special per match, on average, which may mean the difference between victory and defeat. This may happen at one main of special charge up, but it might happen at two mains of special charge up.
Even without so complex an analysis, think: higher-inking weapon = better results from special charge up (when weapons have same points to charge special).
To figure out how much special charge up would help you, record the number of specials you use in a match. Pay attention:
~ if you inked 1000 turf and (from the earlier example) thus should have gotten 5 whole specials to use but only used 3, why is that? Are you dying a lot? Or are you holding on to your special for the right moment?
~ if you use 4 or 5 specials out of 5 on a round, you'll probably get to use another special by adding special charge up. Even if your specials in a round doesn't pass a whole number (so 5.1 --> 5.6), it might help; if you die during the round and loose 20% of your special gauge, you just went from 5.1 to 4.9 specials possible in the round. With special charge up, you'd go from 5.6 to 5.4 specials possible.
BUT REALLY, HOW MUCH SHOULD I RUN?
Up to you. But crunch some numbers.
The following are examples, with average ink per round guessed.
(at this point I would crunch many numbers about DUDE's favorite weapons, factoring in how often he dies, if he's more/less likely to die while using special or with high special buildup, etc, but I haven't actually seen him play a lot of standard matches ^_^; )
Inkbrush, average 1000 points a round, 160 points to special (1 main: 146; 2 mains: 137; 3 mains: 130)
Yield:
No gear: 6.25
1 main: 6.85
2 mains: 7.30
3 mains: 7.70
If you think you die enough and/or hold your special enough that 6.25 and 6.85 would yield a different number of specials you get to use (but 6.85 and 7.30 are effectively the same), you should run one main or three mains.
If you don't think you die/hold enough, 6.25 and 6.85 are the same to you. You should run zero or two mains.
Splat charger, average 650 points a round, 190 points to special (1:174; 2:163; 3:155)
Yield:
None: 3.42
1: 3.74
2: 3.99
3: 4.19
If you're confident that you usually don't die, don't hold your special, and would ink more than 650 points a round, run two mains. If you want. (but why?)
If you find you usually get two specials in a round, consider why (dying? Or holding a fully charged special?) and run special charge up or special saver accordingly.
If you use three specials on average and REALLY want the fourth, you might have to run a lot of special charge up. Or focus on inking more in matches. Or pick a different weapon.
Tentatek Splattershot, average 800 points a round, 210 points to special (1:192; 2:180; 3:171)
Yield:
None: 3.81
1: 4.17
2: 4.44
3: 4.68
Tentatek Splattershot, average 1000 points a round, 210 points to special (1:192; 2:180; 3:171)
Yield:
None: 4.76
1: 5.21
2: 5.56
3: 5.85
A very interesting thing to note is although special charge up seems to do more when your specials take more points to charge (160 --> 146 vs 210 --> 192), it's a larger gap. Thus, even with 1000 points on each weapon, the 18 points saved per special might be getting you 0.45 more specials per round on the tentatek while the 14 points saved per special might be getting you 0.60 more specials per round on the inkbrush.
Weird stuff.
lol ok
Thanks. Octo expansion spoilers ahead in my comment.
I finished the secret final boss that spams ultimates. I got the gold toothpick reward. I will stack special charge on that and stop there.
Underrated comment. Genius.
I don't rely much to Special Charge Up or Special Savers because there's gonna be a way someone is going to splat me before or during using my special such as Inkjet, Tenta Missles, and Splashdown.
So, it puts all my effort of raising my special bar to shame in an instant.
I used to run 2 mains at first, then slowly indulged into 4 mains. Maybe that was too much?
How do you have 4 mains?
Jakoob the Noob 3:58
Respawn Punisher is what I typically use in ranked modes. The extra time it takes for the opponents to get back in the game makes quite the difference. Just make sure you slap on some Special Saver to counterbalance the effect it has when you get splatted.
I got the notification for this video while watching this video... thanks TH-cam
The reason you got inconsistent reductions with those sub abilities is because the game (or the website) rounds off the numbers. An even better way of eyeballing how much of an effect you'll receive per ability point (main=10, sub=3) would be to take a look at Inkipedia's graph of ability stacking effects below:
cdn.wikimg.net/splatoonwiki/images/b/b5/S2_Ability_Overview_Chart.png
Graphically, diminishing returns are when the line begins to level out, e.g. Ink Saver Main seems to experience this only at very high stacks, maybe at ~45 points?
Special Charge and Swim Speed begin their diminishing returns pretty early on, and on top of that they never really experience a tremendous increase anyway, capping at 120-125%.
I can’t wait for the update! New ranked mode is gonna be great
Lza 94 Too bad it comes out in December
My usual gear is:
Opening Gambit - Sp Charge, Swim Spd, Ink Recov
Haunt - Sp Charge, Swim Spd, Ink Recov
Sp Charge - Sp Charge, Swim Spd, Ink Recov
I mostly use this casually but I like it lol
My "Jack of all trades" loadout has one main, but my "Master of some" has one full stacked piece. Guess I should change that...
If you wonder why some people always have a special ready everytime you encounter them, now you know why.
Yup, I was wondering how this spammer got tenta missiles every 25-30 seconds
"When you put in 9 Mains.." 😂
I use one main, and three subs for an N-zapper with well, ink armor, in my opinion, that works wonders, like two more specials in one match or something, which doesn't make up for the fact that I suck, but it makes me feel more usefull, sometimes.
I'm patiently waiting for the big update. ( Half of it )
I use 2 mains and 9 subs of special charge up, and 1 main of tenacity. This makes it a lot more effective.
You should be looking at the percentage on the right. The "p" value is based on that with some rounding giving the weird results.
Thanks DUDE I'm getting splatoon 2 soon and wasn't sure if special charge will be useful
Very informative as always, thank you
So is tenacity better than Sp. Charge?
I got a question about Special Saver. If I have 3 subs of special saver how much and i really saving?
what do you use ink resistance for ?, how many subs n mains you put in to make a difference ?
hey dude, do you think you could do bomb defence up for the next perk in this series? i know people have pretty mixed opinions on it and i'd love to hear your input
Thanks for bringing this to my attention. I am totally going to start using .ink!
I literally just got my pearlescent kicks into 4 different slots with special charge up
Just so you know instead of dragging it you could click the ability and it will go on it
people are so lazy at giving a thumbs up, that link it great, thanks for sharing
I run 1 main and 3 Subs. And watching you place them on the gear there’s only a one point difference between that and having 2 mains. You might as well go for the 1and 3 Subs and use the other main for something else to have a stronger effect.
Really liked the background pokemon music! Haven't heard it in a long time!
Edit: I just realized it's pokemon bank
Thats the Aether Foundation and not the Pkmn Bank
Can you do a video about tenacity vs special charge up? (If you haven't already)
Wait so does Special Charge Up increase how fast the gauge goes up and how much you need to fill in Splatoon 2?
Why the Ethereal foundation music?
Can u do the worth of ink saver main?
Happy thanks giving!
Happy Thanksgiving! Have a nice day!
I don't think they celebrate American Thanksgiving in England.
Don't tell me to over-stack anything. I'm aware that stacking abilities diminishes them, but I have plans to make a hardcore meme loadout of nothing but special charge ups so I can rain down hell with tenta-missiles, and to do that, I'm going need *EVERY. SINGLE. LAST. MINUSCULE BIT THAT I CAN GET.*
DUDE, can you do a video like this except for cold blooded? I don’t see it used that often and it would be interesting to see how valuable it could be
Or you could just use the site he’s using
loadout.ink/
cold blooded drops point sensors from 10sec(unbuffed) to 2 sec
Good thing that I watched this video before trying this out
I'll stack it all I want don't tell me what to do
I mostly use 1 pure for the tentatek to make it at 199p instead of 230p xp
My gear is three mains of special charge up, and 9 subs of special saver.
The pokemon music confuses me a bit
Do bomb defense plz
Why isn't this web browser thingy on the Nintendo app!
I hate to be that guy, but could someone tell me what song is in the background? I definitely recognize it, but I can't remember where it's from for the life of me. I kinda wanna say it's from A Hat in Time, but hell if I know.
Anyways, great video as always, Dude. I only use 1 main of SCU on one of my inkbrush sets, which is really enough for me, but it's good to know I'm not missing out on much by not stacking more. I don't really have enough room to stack any.
Mildly Attractive Fire Extinguisher aether paradise from pokemon sun and moon.
segtendonerd64
Thanks, my dude!
Great info! Hey DUDE, what’s the worth of bomb defense up?
Worth exactly $19.99, but if you order now, you get one extra main for FREE!
Just call 1-800-USELESS to get your very own bomb defense up today!
Anyone know a good loadout for all abilities for the forge pro? I’m using Ink saver main (1main 3subs) swim speed (1main3subs) and ink resistance (1main3subs) at the moment but I want to know if there’s something more beneficial
Monomeko the Intulexual thanks, so wha t should I swap? Saver main?
The mitochondria is the powerhouse of the cell
The nucleus is the city hall of the cell
Great vid DUDE
wait what... what site is this?
How have I never seen this website!?
So at most you only want to use one main or 3subs
Can you do special power up?
Pretty Please?
How do i use the special ability im new
Hmm, now i can calculate ink armor every time i see a jr. or nzap with nothing but special charge up 0/
To: ThatSrbDude
Splatoon 2 had received a new patch (v2.0). See this board
www.gamefaqs.com/boards/200279-splatoon-2/76024576
This patch will increase the number of tri-slosher users. The patch will undone some of patch 1.3 and 1.1.2 changes to the tri-slosher. Since patch 1.3, I notice a large drop in the number of tri-slosher user in rank battle.
I only use one main but it has helped a lot for my Brella
What website did you use?
What's the music in the background?
claggy egg Mario Galaxy more than likely
It's actually from Pokémon moon/sun. Aether Island I think is called
This applies to almost every upgrade
I only have 3 main specials and i get my special from 145 points. I think this site is broken
The link isnt in the description
Done
Oh, I run 3 mains and 3subs of special charge up and 3 subs of special power up and cold blooded
I only 3 subs of this for my pro set and only 2 mains for my machine set. It's okay but nothing major
i run 5 special charge up subs and it works well for me
Is that PSO music I hear in the background? Right on :).
You forgot the link
Done
So the pure I have is useless
Do bomb defence
Main and 3 sub is the best worth imo I use it
Bayley McNamee Same! My shoes have one main and three subs and I find it helps get the special nicely.
Wut is dat website/program?
Domiyu[PL] link in the description.
StarShade I see only discord twitch and twitter links...
loadout.ink
In the description now.
Vasko Games THX Vasil.
I am using only one main of every ability.With this strategy am I getting the most out of my clothes.
I know why becuse someone will use all those to get ther special rapidly and the game will be unfair
Combine it with special saver duh
I️ wish u made this vid like 1 month ago 😕
Which site is this
In description now.
Ty Dude
I already over stacked it
Good vid but you could have made it a lot shorter 😐
Special Spam > Playing Smart
Smart special spam 🤔
Joey Roger Enlightened
Yurii • this was why aerospray was nerfed
Nice video.
I overstack because of MEMES!
Whoa, nice site
152nd without notification. For no notification I am early.
This is why I run *AT THE MOST* 1 Main and 3 Subs of SCU. Any more than and your wasting your time.
This made me avoid it somewhat now. 😕
N e a t
First also yay updates
TheBoomoBro doesn't it come out tonight at 11 :00
EGS 2 no, it's at 8:00 est
Bludroidgamer tonight or tomorrow
EGS 2 tonight
doesn't it come out on friday
WTF
16th... lol