She told her own child to end herself, one of the most evil things anyone can say, let alone her own mother. I hope the daughter is getting all the help she needs to heal from the damage inflicted by this horrific, evil monster.
@@reapexerHow are you hearing about a mother pressuring her daughter to kill herself anonymously and harassing her and thinking “just log off” ???? do you see no other problems?
@@ScarfaceLittlebee-mj2chwhile one IS The super fan of a super hero going Full Yandere/mental The other IS The mother wanting something for someone reason that involves harasing here own dauther.
My mother was a narcissistic sociopath who hated young females; specifically me, and eventually my daughter. But it also extended to my nieces (her grandchildren) and my one female cousin. I have two brothers and she treated us much differently growing up, and as adults. I was a teenager in the 70's, so we didn't have social media. She had to bully me in person, which she did every chance she got. She died 8 years ago and I still don't miss her. The repercussions of what this woman has done to her own daughter will last a lifetime.
I remember the first of my Daughters birthdays that my Mom bothered showing up for was about her 5th or 6th birthday and we decided to go to the local amusement park. As soon as we got in my little sister wanted to zip off to the roller coasters and I was like hey woah it's my Daughters birthday we should go to kiddy land first. We had all day we could have gone to every ride in that park it wasn't a very large park. My Mom and Little Sister and Step Dad and Step Sister just bailed off to rollercoaster land. Through the day I'd catch my Step Dad randomly standing around glaring at us while we spent all day in kid land with my Daughter and her cousins and other relatives closer to her age.
I have a similar upbringing! My mother is def not a narcissist. But she has very few warm and fuzzies. She loved her boys. But us girls were only supposed to be something if we married a man. Big surprise all three of the girls are now divorced from men who mistreated us. The five boys are all happily married and well adjusted. I wish I figured it out sooner. It takes time to believe I’m worthy of anything on my own.
@@Drak976, Good for you to know your priority......your lil' girl ❤️ Your good sense mothering and kind heart will shine through your daughter to your grandchildren! You're making a Forever Legacy. Hearing you, reading your story makes me so happy. I broke the cycle with my kids, and seeing how good they are with my grandchildren makes my heart sing. 🌷❤️🌷 Love is stronger than anything they can throw your way. You're powerful, mama! God bless U!
I cannot believe I'm seeing this again. Kendra was my BOSS at my colleges IT dept. Most of us believed she did it because she was getting "jealous" of her daughter for basically growing up and spending more time with her friends instead of her. She would always talk about how she's the cool parent... Best part is she was using campus resources to harass her daughter.
I wouldn't be shocked if it turns out Kendra was trying to make her kid super depressed to ruin her childs career/freedom and also Garner sympathy for herself
Sounds like my mother. She was so different and "christian" and quiet outside of the house, though, to the point that even my husband thought that I was overdramatizing it - at the exact same time that she had been encouraging my identical twin sister to stalk and harass me _for years_ for literally just dating someone for the very first time at the age of 23 - and that's not even getting into all of my childhood BS. My personal guess is this is some narcissistic sociopathic sh*t.
There's definitely a nonzero percentage of people who have children or pets solely to have control/power over something in their life. They're almost always insecure and submissive in all other aspects.
Yeah. My dad did that to me repeatedly when I was actually dealing with suicidal ideation and the guy can’t figure out why I don’t want him in my life anymore. ✂️ What’s extra cool about that is my ex-fiancé knew this was going on but wouldn’t let me put boundaries up with my dad because my dad didn’t do it to him, lol… and that’s why he’s my ex-fiancé. ✂️
You may be correct about the mother having been bullied at some point while growing up. My mother took great pleasure in punishing me for things that happened to her. The one phrase burned into my memory is "Somebody did this to me and I want you to know what it was like." The dirty secret is that some mothers hate their children. Thank God this one got caught.
WTF so bizarre she would do that given she knew what it felt like. Or do you think she’s secretly a sadomasochist? Very strange sorry you went through that
Ah. Yes. A wise choice to birth a child first whilst the mother has crystal clear issues and problems with her mental life. No need to raise them properly. What can go wrong when the child becomes an adult? 😊👍
Only motivation that makes sense is jealousy and envy. She's probably one of those mom's who say "my daughter's my best friend, I'm a cool mom," and as her daughter grew up and started showing interest in forming other relationships she freaked out and tried to shut it down. Hell, she may have been envious of her own daughter's successes, still bitter about her own high school experience
@@ULuvJanae i did not claim it was. Munchausen's By Proxy is rare, and in this scenario I think it's more likely the mother was an asshole on a power trip
My mom does a similar thing. She always forced me to eat large amounts of food as a child, because she wanted me to be large and unattractive. She’d actively sabotage friendships and relationships to make me be alone. It took over a decade of not living under her roof to get my head on straight. The psychological damage is the worst part.
I'm so sorry this happened to you, i can't even imagine my own mom trying to make me feel horrible. I really hope you're better now with plenty of friends and relationships, I wish you the best :)
I honestly feel terribly sorry for the teenage daughter in this situation. Dealing with a bully in any capacity is awful enough, but to find out that the very bully is your own mother just hits new levels of heartbreaking.
I know your worse haters are often someone close to you BUT WOW! How unfortunate does someone have to be that their own mother is being a hateful wretch towards them daily!? Sick world
It’s not insane like you think. It’s a lot more common for mothers to be petty and miserable like this mother nowadays lol. Bunch of resent people will do “insane” things
Lucky for me, I don't have to imagine 🫠 This sounds a lot like my own mother, who I've long suspected is a covert/vulnerable narcissist. She was so different and "christian" and quiet outside of the house, though, to the point that even my husband thought that I was overdramatizing it - at the exact same time that she had been encouraging my identical twin sister to stalk and harass me _for years_ for literally just dating someone for the very first time at the age of 23 - and that's not even getting into all of my childhood BS. My personal guess is this is some narcissistic sociopathic sh*t.
@@AnthonyBlamthony the fact that more and more mothers as a whole are getting exposed online and people in general getting exposed. dont play stupid with me you weirdo. you know damn well what im referring too. you just dont want to admit it cause your your little ego wont let you lol. but go on
The way the mom worked with authorities, the FBI getting involved to raise the stakes, and the mom even trying to frame her daughter's classmate to throw them off her trail is some straight out of Death Note shit. Truth really is stranger than fiction.
Control! The daughter had friends and a bf and was living her life. Mother needed to put her back "in her place". Narcissists cant allow you to do better than them.
my mom is diagnosed with NPD and she sent me formspring questions back in 2008ish so, yeah, p much lol. caught her in it one day, asked why, never got a good reason.
My aunt has narc tendencies. She'd consistently tell me I was fat and body shame me. I'd take off my glasses and say "Here, you need em more than I do. Cause I'm 20 pounds UNDERweight. You're the one that's always wanting to lose weight. Stop projecting" She'd throw stuff in my room for insulting her like that.
The most sickening part to me is that, had her daughter followed through on taking her life, she probably would've milked that sympathy card dry for years.
I honestly think that was her plan. Obviously we don't know but since she refuses to say a motive I can only think it's because her plan was more horrible than just messing with her daughter. I don't know all the details but I could see this lady wanting to be child free or something but didn't want to look bad to the public. I think she was hoping that is her daughter took her own life she would get sympathy and attention from others and not look like the bad guy. But this could just be a wild thought brought on by movies and tv plots. But I also wouldn't put it past anyone. Look at all those cases of parents wanting a new life so they murder their kids. Poor girl all around though. No matter what the "mom" was planning she is a horrible person
Mom sounds jealous, vindictive, and sadistic. During my childhood & adolescence, if I showed the least bit of admiration for a mature woman, mom would go bats*it crazy, & work hard to find some fault with that person. She's extremely old now & still has the emotional mindset of a very mean 11 yr old. Some moms have a pathological hatred for their daughters. It's destructive AF for adolescent girls. It's not a good sign the daughter wants the Court to "go easy" on her mom. Codependency is toxic!
Being codependent as a child is pretty healthy. At that stage of your life you need someone to rely on. I wouldn't blame her for having empathy. She just got really unlucky with her mother.
Insane story. I think it's all about one thing. She harasses her daughter, goes public about wanting to find her harasser, hoping eventually her daughter will exit life and then she will be the poor poor mother that did EVERYTHING to save her daughter. She'll get publicity, sympathy and money.
Personally, this sounds a lot like my mother to me, who I've long suspected is a covert/vulnerable narcissist. She was so different and "christian" and quiet outside of the house, though, to the point that even my husband thought that I was overdramatizing it - at the exact same time that she had been encouraging my identical twin sister to stalk and harass me _for years_ for literally just dating someone for the very first time at the age of 23 - and that's not even getting into all of my childhood BS. My personal guess is this is some narcissistic sociopathic sh*t.
@@harmonyquinn2557 Maybe via social media traction, like a GoFundMe, or something of a similar sort. Seems like a thing that someone thinking like that could go for.
@@harmonyquinn2557donations from people who feel bad for her. She'd prob then start a bogus Fundraiser For Suicidal Teens in her daughter's name and pocket most of the money... then you have potential Talk Show appearances.
This is one of the strangest cases of abuse I’ve heard of. Really an out of the box way to anonymously emotionally and psychologically abuse your child. That’s sickening
This isn’t just traumatic it’s heart and soul breaking, it’s one thing to deal w the trauma of high school bullies. It’s another to deal with this. I can’t even imagine how much anger confusion and despair I would be feeling if I was the daughter.
Some moms are horrible jealous of their daughters. I've seen a mom build up her son while tearing down her daughter. We've heard of 1 sister being jealous of her other sister's looks. It happens with moms too. Women are taught that looking young makes you more attractive. Some moms can't handle when their daughters start looking attractive and get more attraction from guys than they do. My friend's mom was like this. Mom told lies about my friend. Refused to get her medical treatment when needed which caused life long problems. All while spoiling the brother which also caused him problems.
My mom and grandmother told me stories of how their neighbors would always bring up their sons but never their daughters, to the point most didn't know they had daughters. This was 50s - 70s
the amount of distrust that daughter is going to have towards others is astounding, i hope she understands that her mother was / is sick, and that this is not a normal situation for anyone to be in.
Not receiving an explanation could make that harder. She's just gonna wonder "Why ME? What did I do, what's wrong with me? Would anyone target me for the same reason?"
you dont really recover from that kinda shit. I've been lied to for years and had a bunch of money stolen from one of the people who raised me who put up similar ridiculous facades, fake online identities and everything. I understand she's sick in the head (still accepts 0 responsibility for anything) but that doesn't take away the realization that no matter how close a person is to you, anyone can lie to you and get away with it if they want. even the people you wouldn't expect in a million years.
@@TheT3rr0rMask years and years of therapy is the only way to help rewire someone's brain, if the daughter goes and seeks help. this happened during one of the most pivotal stages in a child's development too and so i hate to know that she is going to be struggling for a long time because of a monster of a person. you cant even call that person a mother or a parent.
@realyozYFGABruh your videos are so bad.. you dont talk and got stupid music and tiny words around a powerpoint presentation... why not sit in front of a camera and say what u got to say unless your a shy little coward
My grandmother did stuff like this to multiple generations cos she's a repulsive psycho. She was worse if she suspected you were "abandoning" her. (She literally tried to get my aunt killed cos she DARED to get engaged. She also spread around that i chose to be a pr0 stitute cos I chose to get married instead of choosing to be her free nurse) From personal experience... This lunatic probably saw her daughter being more independent and having a bf... and wanted to attack to "keep her in line". This is a woman that feels entitled to her child's personal life and like she OWNS her therefore she bullied this girl to keep her down, tame and scared. And depending on her "caring mother" that went as far as getting an investigation started. This is so sickening and i hope her daughter gets all the love and support she needs after this selfish monster did this.
I definitely get some “Savior” vibes, creating a hateful character to torment her daughter and then act the caring mom who will work with authorities to stop the bullying.
@@sliyan6726 True story, tho usually volunteers starting forest fires. Then they get to be the hero that puts out the fire. Don’t get me wrong, not ALL firefighters are arsonists, but it does happen.
@@sliyan6726It’s not the majority. It’s a very very small minority. You can read about it yourself. I just wanted to correct this, because it’s like the police shooting thing. People tend to think thousands upon thousands are killed by cops every year, making the majority of cops bad. But less than 1,500 African Americans, less than 3,000 Caucasian’s have been killed by cops SINCE 2017. ( it’s around 200 per year, and 400 respectively) And who knows how many were justified ( ie a person being armed, shooting at the cops, trying to take a cops gun etc)
Sounds like my mother, who I've long suspected now is a covert/vulnerable narcissist. She was so different and "christian" and quiet outside of the house, though, to the point that even my husband thought that I was overdramatizing it - at the exact same time that she had been encouraging my identical twin sister to stalk and harass me _for years_ for literally just dating someone for the very first time at the age of 23 - and that's not even getting into all of my childhood BS. My personal guess is this is some narcissistic sociopathic sh*t.
My theory is that the mom was jealous of her daughter. Probably she felt as if her daughter had robbed her of her youth, or some crazy stuff like that.
coming from an abusive mother myself, the fact that it's reported that she continuously told her daughter to "k*ll herself" leads me to believe that the mother didn't want to be a mother and wanted to rid the world of her daughter without getting her own hands dirty. the fact that no one seems to be wise to that nefariousness is super concerning to me
@@hiiambarney4489 This kind of mindset will end up with you in court one day because you tried defending an armed robber. Sometimes people will be awful just because they can.
Family isn't everything. It's not even the only thing.... You can't choose the family you're born into... but even friends and strangers can be more compassionate towards you than family.
@@alicemadness999 Nah he's just saying it's kinda wild she never blocked her at any point after a year of harassment. Like it seems like an easy solution to avoid being spammed with hate on the daily, not that she did anything wrong by not blocking her
@@alicemadness999I am actually. Any kid on the internet can find a fucking ip address and just stop opening them. All this tech for kids and they whine when someone uses it in a way they don’t approve of.
“She didn’t want to be responsible for sending her mother to jail” Lol she’s not responsible, this is 100% on her crazy mum. Really feel bad for this girl.
The mom sounds like someone who is extremely jealous of her daughter and wanted to hurt her privately while appearing as a "hero" on the outside. This mother is beyond mentally disturbed and delusional to spend every day sending hateful messages to her own child. Regardless if the mother was bullied in the past, there is absolutely no right to go this far to hurt your own baby.
I have a better term for what you described. Mentally challenged. Id say its fairly obvious that people who do such petty things cant really think straight or of the bigger picture.
my mother and older sister would make fake social media accounts and catfish -- part of my mother's agenda amongst other things was to try and force me into thinking I'm gay. Needless to say I don't talk to either of them anymore
@@PartnershipsForYou Actually sometimes it can. People have ideas of what they want their kids to be and while most parents want straight kids and some can be cruel to get it other awant gay kids and can also be cruel to get jt
there's definitely some twisted psychotic reason behind it. from envy because her daughter is in a good relationship or over possessiveness, to her having feelings on the bf and she views her as competition
not surprised by this mom-of-teenage-daughter behavior. honestly so many girls, as they approach adulthood, have their mom’s lash out at them - I think it’s largely just veiled jealousy. it’s like if you’re a teenage dude, just had a growth spurt, and you’re starting to get _almost_ as strong as your dad… but so he gets pissed about it and just decks you haha
They can just send the child to social department or orphanage OR let the caring relatives taking care the child and let them adopt the child if they arent that willing or capable
@@ainzer2903some people have kids simply so they have something that will be subservient to them, something that CANT leave. And once they’re old enough to finally get away, this kind of stuff happens. Some people get off on seeing those who they should love and protect the most suffer. And some people never saw something they didn’t want to kick, just to see if it would still come back to them. Emotional sadists.
I agree wholeheartedly. And there are too many people out there who would make absolutely wonderful parents who can't have children. Not to mention the 16,000 kids (in my state alone) in foster care due to their terrible parents.
Given how she also cyberbullied her boyfriend, this leads me to believe the reason behind it is Freudian. She could've viewed him as a rival for her daughter's attention.
As someone who grew up with a stepmother who hated every aspect of their life, I immediately thought it was a situation like that. My stepmom would make petty comments about everything I wore, how I did my hair, my friends, my interests...everything. They made her feel good and destroyed my self-esteem to the point where I had to fall in line with whatever she wanted to feel remotely good. I really feel like this situation was similar to mine, but she was trying to mask that she was the one doing it so the parent/child bond wouldn't be broken.
I just want to say to the OP and to the reply towards the OP that I admire both of your courage to share your stories and I hope that in doing so, both of you are able to find some comfort and healing. I hope that someday both of you can be surrounded by those who appreciate and value you for who you are.
That sounds very much like Narcissistic Personality Disorder. Having a mother like that whether biological or not, can leave a person with Complex PTSD. Not fun.
It could also be a sort of hero complex. Be there to hold your daughter, couch your daughter through this, get attention from friends around you saying you’re doing a good job comforting.
My idea was a variation of that- it's a twisted new form of "Munchausen by proxy". In the place of faking medical conditions for attention it's instead cyber-bullying
Charlie points that out in the video. Münchausen syndrome. It’s usually when a mother deliberately gets their child sick, so they can be seen as the hero that takes care of her babies
It is a shame the daughter wanted such a lenient sentence for the mother, she shouldn't feel guilty that her mother is facing consequences for harassing not only her but her boyfriend too! I am glad the boyfriend and his family did not go easy on the mother, because something as atrocious as that can't just be excused without punishment.
@@Naoto-kun1085bro it's her own mother, it's easy for you to judge but if your own mother does it no matter what it's your mother you love her you don't want her to go to prison forever, think about it.
@@starboiklem8381 My mother would never do something like this, but if she did then I would feel heartbroken and betrayed, and I would want her to be held accountable for her actions, because if she got away with actual abuse without facing any consequences, she would will never learn! Consequences are necessary for growth, so even if I forgave her then I'd still expect her to face the consequences for her own good. However, the daughter may not be old enough to recognize this, and so I don't blame her for not knowing this, but it's still sad.
I wonder if it IS Munchausen with a twist. What if she wanted to be her daughter’s comforter and rescuer? She sees that if her daughter is frightened and sad, and the worse the texts get, the more the daughter stays at home, turns to her for comfort and actually TALKS to her. It might have started with a couple slightly nasty texts from the girls’s friends, the girl talks to her mom about them and the mom sees it as an opportunity to “strengthen their relationship.” As a parent, like all the other parents in history, there comes a time when your baby just isn’t that interested in being around you or even talking to you about things. It is very sad for parents, but we just accept that they are growing up and becoming independent. I think no parent would want to admit they would do something so viscous and trauma-creating just to get their child to talk to them more. It certainly does indicate a severe co-dependence and insecurity rather than malevolent intentions, imho. A bit like a parent who convinces a child they mustn’t ever leave the house because of danger….but she added a bit of drama and threat evidence to help convince. No completely balanced parent would ever understand & think that was ok & maybe she thought confessing it would get her a higher sentence (or committed)
I know exactly why the mom did it. I was raised by a mother just like her, except she said every cruel thing to my face. Every day, screaming, blaming, accusing me and punishing me for just being a kid. It’s sad how being bullied by your own parent (aka emotional abuse) isn’t taken seriously until they hide behind a social media account, then suddenly it’s considered stalking and abuse of a minor.
Sounds like my mother. She was so different and "christian" and quiet outside of the house, though, to the point that even my husband thought that I was overdramatizing it - at the exact same time that she had been encouraging my identical twin sister to stalk and harass me _for years_ for literally just dating someone for the very first time at the age of 23 - and that's not even getting into all of my childhood BS. My personal guess is this is some narcissistic sociopathic sh*t.
I discovered my own mother had been creating problems for me over the decades too, it's a very strange scenario to accept. Some people are very manipulative, dark, and evil, they'll come across as very well natured too, that's the worst part.
My mom was mad that I refused to speak w her, so she called cops and said I threatened to off her. That guaranteed me not speaking to her. Now she is at end of life stage and pretty much alone bc my bro put her in a facility 90 miles away in a mountain town w no access via bus or rail.
same. except my mom still lives in her home. She showed up at my job a few weeks ago and badmouthed me to my boss. she is 70 and still pissed at my dad from 40 years ago and still taking it out on me. I'm getting a restraining order.
@@justinlong5892In “My Mother the Psychopath” by Olivia Rayne, the author describes how her mother called the director of the summer camp where the daughter was working, and told him that her daughter was a sex offender! Luckily Olivia was able to prove this wasn’t true.
Thats what most narcissistic mother's, outwardly appearance to everyone els us that of a friendly, helpful, loving person. But as soon as your alone behind closed doors......
As someone who's mom actively tells me how everyone including animals actually hates me and I have no real friends except her I think her mom just wanted the daughter isolated and depressed so she's easier to control. It also feels like passive aggressive anger where she can punish her daughter whenever she feels like it but still make herself the good guy. My mom is exactly like this.
What's crazy to me is that she had to act differently in person to not rise any eyebrows for her being the one doing it. If she straight up showed her hatred, people would've picked on her way sooner. Imagine.
I think it was probably a way for the mother to make herself seem more essential in her daughter's life in some way. Like providing emotional support and shit and always being soooo eager to catch that darn stalker. She wanted her daughter to continue being utterly emotionally dependent on her forever
At a surface level, it reminds me of those nurses who nearly kill their patient but miraculously save them just in the nick of time to be the hero. You know... When it works and they don't accidentally actually kill their patient. That being said, I'm not a mind reader and I don't have *all* the information so it's just speculation on my part. I can definitely think of other motives too. Like maybe the stuff she was saying had a kernal of truth and she was trying to get her daughter to improve but didn't have the backbone to have the hard conversations. Or maybe it was just plain ol' hatred.
Can’t even imagine what the kid must be going through. I’d be even more scared of her mum when she’s out of prison, because you can just imagine she’s spent 2-5 years thinking how she’s going to worm her way back into her life. You’d never be able to trust her again, yet she’ll clearly claim she loves her and she’s sorry.
How much you wanna bet the entire time this was happening, the mom was going "I warned you about those dangerous people on the internet" to her own daughter to feign her caring.
"Well I got bullied in highschool so why should you not be?" Its the same thing people do in retail. "Oh I worked in retail, it was hell" but then are the karens. Thats the only reason I can think of why she is doing this to her own child.
I went through mental and physical abuse from my mother and stepdad for most of my childhood,. And then one day when I was 13 they got really drunk and put me on out the side of a highway at 1am and drove away. And then they lied about all of it in court. I'm 40 now. And to this day, I still can't tell you why parents can be evil to their kids. I still don't have any answers to any of it.
Sometimes people just hate having children, they see them and want to inflict on them the pain and frustration they've had all their life but because they don't know how to express that in different ways they lash out to what they feel is their recreation and culprit of their problems Most of the time is just a myriad of psychological problems that exacerbates by a toxic environment and things as narcissistic inferiority complex.
i can't possibly imagine seeing a vulnerable kid that you have power over and genuinely thinking "wow i could get away with hurting this thing! let's go!" in the mother's case she didn't want to be at fault and took lengths to stay anonymous so maybe it was some sort of. hurting her so she'd come to her mother in some weird controlling tactic?
That's exactly the reason why I'm a strong supporter of a "parents license". Give people mandatory therapy and training before or after they've gotten their baby, because they owe their children THAT much at least.
Her mother was getting enjoyment from causing mental anguish to others, even her own daughter. Now she will spend the rest of her life known as the disgusting mother who terrorized her own daughter.
Imagine finding out about this..the person who's supposed to be your biggest fan, attacking you..I couldn’t imagine even my mom doing this to me. Daughter deserves better. Much better.
@@brandonwolfe4000 honestly TH-cam really could delete bot comments automatically with the amount of repeating words they use. they do the same thing with spam and stuff. so it's clear that they just don't care enough.
im so glad that mom got prison time and i hope the daughter has been able to heal from the trauma. its crazy to think how the mom probably wouldnt have gotten into any legal trouble if she had said all that to her daughters face instead of pretending to be a stalker and hadnt gotten the police involved. in my experience, CPS and the authorities rarely take emotional abuse seriously. the saying, "a girls first bully is her mother" is painfully true.
@@bigjalapeno7061 idk if its considered an official saying but recently ive seen a lot of other women quoting it because unfortunately a lot of us can relate to our mothers being our first bully. i agree. its heartbreaking how emotional abuse or just any abuse in general unfortunately is not taken as seriously as it such be by authorities
CPS in my experience often has two extremes of their approach. They're either unwilling to do anything and unconvinced anything bad is occuring, or they're willing to do anything and believe fully that is something bad is occurring. This often leads to children in extremely abusive homes not getting help, and/or children in at worst mildly dysfunctional homes being taken away from their parents with CPS attempting to ensure they can never return ever again. There are a few reasons for this such as the social worker involved having a bit of swing on how CPS approaches an issue so depending on the social worker you got then they might be either understanding and balanced in how they report things or they might be super extreme about how they report the issue back to CPS. Also, budgeting renewal deadlines also makes CPS more likely to try and engage in frivolous legal battles so that they can use up the remaining budget so they don't get less funding for the next budget. This is an especially scummy reason tbh.
@@elbowman9213 Narcissistic parents always feel entitled to a relationship with their children. She absolutely will be wondering this with zero self awareness.
The only thing I can think of is she has a hero complex. Getting to comfort her poor, bullied daughter made her feel like a better parent, a great person. Sad and pathetic
It's almost certainly Munchausen Syndrome by Proxy. The method of causing pain to the loved one is less important than what can be gained from it: sympathy for the daughter but most importantly for the mother as the caregiver to the sufferer. And as you stated, that is where the hero complex comes in; it's a central component of MSP. That would explain why the mother was so involved with the authority's efforts. She's on a crusade to find the evil doers and save the poor innocent child. If you transpose this case onto a classic example of MSP, it matches up strikingly well. A mother makes her child sick and becomes enmeshed in the hospital's effort to find the illness and save the child; a mother makes her child miserable and traumatised and becomes enmeshed in law enforcement's efforts to find the culprit and save the child.
I had a mother who did this to my face. The mother is jealous of her daughter, a young woman who has her whole life ahead of her and if she’s happy for even a second it sparks some kind of rage and that happiness must be put down at every turn
A similar situation happened to me, in which an ex's current girlfriend sent me 200+ texts and calls within a 2 month window. It was goddamn scary when they got my work address, and apparently would doxx me (home address, number, ig, snapchat) and get their friends to do it. I dont understand it. They got time in jail, THIS "mother" got time in jail, IS IT WORTH IT? THEY WILL FIND YOU. I hope her daughter never forgives her, she does NOT deserve it.
Absolutely nailed it on the Münchausen-by-proxy analysis. It's a really unusual variation in that the methods used were purely social rather than physiological, but the root pathology is obviously present. The psychological case studies that are going to come out of this one are going to be fascinating, and they definitely aren't going to reflect flatteringly on a lot of people.
I hope this line of thinking gets chased down, somehow. Seeing a lot of stories in the comments similar to this, similar to mine, of how we (the daughters) were "our mothers' only friend/supporter", lots of cases of kids becoming their mom's therapists etc etc. Maybe some form of long-term post partum issues? maybe attachment issues, feelings of ownership (over the child) etc caused by circumstances surrounding the child's conception and birth? In my case, my mother had a tubal litigation before i was born so i could see the resentment from that turning into the feeling that she was right to try to make me into Heidi 2: Electric Boogaloo, or something?
I agree with you about the Munchausen's by proxy. It makes sense, especially as emotional and psychological problems are so much more fashionable than old standards like leukaemia. Psychological abuse from a position of anonymity is the obvious next step. She must have loved playing the hero Mom dealing with the FBI.
@@lobstermash not just trendier, but also far easier to artificially set up or fabricate without getting caught. That said, it also seems like most of the mothers who do it more this way aren't giving a whole lot of thought to the "how" of what they're doing, which just baffles me with how elaborate the manipulation schemes usually are. It's as if aging white suburban women just have some whole hidden cranial lobe exclusively for plotting Macchiavellian shit like this without any conscious effort. It's uncanny.
And by “don’t like” that can be anyone who might outshine them, or is emotionally supportive to their daughter. Parents who are more balanced and look out for their children may have fears about bad influences or intentions, but vampire parents have other motivations.
And by “don’t like” that can be anyone who might outshine them, or is emotionally supportive to their daughter. Parents who are more balanced and look out for their children may have fears about bad influences or intentions, but vampire parents have other motivations.
People ask why but fail to realize this isn't something new. She was just stupid enough to leave behind traces of her abuse. Many children go through abuse like this every day without any documentation or any investigations and they know exactly that it's their guardians that do it to them, which hurts a lot more.
I mean i had really abusive parents.... but they would have never work in an investigstion of it and try to frame my classmate for it while being nice to my face. Shitty abusive parenting isnt weird unfortunately, this case is.
@@patrickmcpartland1398 she's an absolute narcissist. No doubt about it. Those types that isolate and belittle people to make them solely dependent on them instead. Those types that want to be worshipped. She just used technology to her advantage. It's more creative but it's not that weird to me because I've seen these types irl.
no i understand this, my mum and her sisters have tried to sabotage my independence and self esteem my whole life, i guess they're narcissists w internalised misogyny, bc she's so kind and gentle w my male cousins, but the hatred she has treated me w by comparison, i think she sees me and sees everything she hates about herself, doesn't want to see me "surpassing" her and becoming successful, or at least "leaving her", so she'll always be in control, always "dominate" me a lot of people talk about physically abusive fathers, but no one really talks about the insidiousness of emotionally abusive mothers anyway i live in a diff country from her now, it took a lot to get away, but i hope i'll never have daughters (or children at all) for fear of becoming like her and her sisters
damn i feel bad for her, cant imagine what it was like for her to wake up in the same house with her mom while all of that was happening and not knowing
@@menace2society00 yeah but after her mom got exposed it probably left her in shock knowing she had (probably) lived with her all that time and didnt think anything of it
@@Emerz11111 I think the most fucked up part would be the fact she probably told her mom about the "bully" and her mom was prob like "poor baby we need to stop this" 🤣
Wow. That is so f’d up! My daughter experienced bullying for a couple of years which started at age 12. It broke my heart knowing what she was going through. I can’t even comprehend how a mother could do that. Makes me so mad and upset for her daughter.
I think maybe the mom haves a boyfriend or something because I didn't hear about the father in the history. There's a lot of cases with mothers jealous of daughters and turn against them in fear of losing their couple. I know it's crazy but surprisingly common.
@@LeonelEBD the mom could still have a boyfriend and be jealous of her daughter it really all depends on the internal details and dynamics of the situation and relations
Psychopatic narcissism. Where normal mothers would feel proud of her daughter, a narcisist mother might see her daughter as a threat and feel the need to exert her dominance to "stay on top". By causing her harm this way, the mother suddenly became a safe haven again. She had her baby back, the rebelling teen with boyfriend is put down. But with the involvement of the police and she "helping" them it becomes a thrill and goes all out with framing some kids. That makes me add the psychopath to narcissism.
As someone who’s own Mother also turned out to indeed be their biggest hater/Disney Villan…the Mother is probably a Sociopath who will literally never tell anyone their honest motive. Mine still to this day will take ZERO accountability and refuses to say “Why” she did what she did. Also Charlie please don’t try to figure out the “Why” because you will hurt yourself. Some people are just monsters. I’m glad this girl is finally free from the toxicity. Truly wishing her only happiness and positive vibes from here on out!!
@@bigjalapeno7061 I asked her the same question. She did not answer that question but instead proceeded to attempt to convince me that my reality was wrong.
@@bigjalapeno7061 because people like that don't think of children as their own individuals, they think of them as pets that they can teach some commands and they will listen like dogs do.
thats crazy bro like dang liike holy moly like crazt like on my god my like osh luje nano abouto like me and i like me personally like ohj no like me like thats way to off bro like holy@realyozYFGA
Nobody should fear this. This isn't empathy. If you think your partner could do this then you either hate your partner, dont trust them or you've seen something in them that makes you think this is something they could do. This isn't the behaviour of a bad parent, it's the behaviour of a monster. And despite the news focusing on them, there is only a miniscule amount of monsters in the world.
Some parents hate their offspring, it’s much more common than everyone thinks. Offspring comes start taking time, money, energy and some people are too weak to endure. Having no one to blame for their own acts they project all the frustration for their own weakness into their children. Saw it happen more than I can count.
It’s like that episode of South Park where Kyle’s dad stays up late to just troll and harass people from the elementary school then during the day acts like nothings happened
Her working with authorities to find herself sounds like Death Note 😭
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I was thinking the same thing! thanks for posting this
😂 for reeeaaaaal. I laughed so loud
They must've put L on this case😂😂
Real 😂
She told her own child to end herself, one of the most evil things anyone can say, let alone her own mother. I hope the daughter is getting all the help she needs to heal from the damage inflicted by this horrific, evil monster.
Sticks and stones may break my bones but words…
Oh it happens I assure you.
Oh good its such a shame that you cant block a person harrasing you 😂
if its your own mom, you cant really block her can you?
@@reapexer
@@reapexerHow are you hearing about a mother pressuring her daughter to kill herself anonymously and harassing her and thinking “just log off” ???? do you see no other problems?
Wakes up.
Bullies daughter for years.
Refuses to elaborate.
Goes to prison.
reverse flash levels of hate
Top comment.
It was ME, daughter! I was the who told you to jump!
@@ScarfaceLittlebee-mj2chwhile one IS The super fan of a super hero going Full Yandere/mental The other IS The mother wanting something for someone reason that involves harasing here own dauther.
story of my life
My mother was a narcissistic sociopath who hated young females; specifically me, and eventually my daughter. But it also extended to my nieces (her grandchildren) and my one female cousin. I have two brothers and she treated us much differently growing up, and as adults. I was a teenager in the 70's, so we didn't have social media. She had to bully me in person, which she did every chance she got. She died 8 years ago and I still don't miss her. The repercussions of what this woman has done to her own daughter will last a lifetime.
I remember the first of my Daughters birthdays that my Mom bothered showing up for was about her 5th or 6th birthday and we decided to go to the local amusement park. As soon as we got in my little sister wanted to zip off to the roller coasters and I was like hey woah it's my Daughters birthday we should go to kiddy land first. We had all day we could have gone to every ride in that park it wasn't a very large park. My Mom and Little Sister and Step Dad and Step Sister just bailed off to rollercoaster land. Through the day I'd catch my Step Dad randomly standing around glaring at us while we spent all day in kid land with my Daughter and her cousins and other relatives closer to her age.
I have a similar upbringing! My mother is def not a narcissist. But she has very few warm and fuzzies. She loved her boys. But us girls were only supposed to be something if we married a man. Big surprise all three of the girls are now divorced from men who mistreated us. The five boys are all happily married and well adjusted. I wish I figured it out sooner. It takes time to believe I’m worthy of anything on my own.
@@Drak976,
Good for you to know your priority......your lil' girl ❤️
Your good sense mothering and kind heart will shine through your daughter to your grandchildren! You're making a Forever Legacy.
Hearing you, reading your story makes me so happy.
I broke the cycle with my kids, and seeing how good they are with my grandchildren makes my heart sing. 🌷❤️🌷
Love is stronger than anything they can throw your way. You're powerful, mama! God bless U!
@@OysterwangI know how you feel ❤️🩹
@@Drak976please don’t bring them around her and make sure she’s never alone with them
Mom is such a true hater, paying for her daughter’s phone plan just to make sure she can’t get away from the hate. Astonishing.
daughter should've just turned off her phone
@@Yugga_Bubbayou don’t get out much do you
@@AdrianCosmanyou are on a stolen account
@@Yugga_Bubba your mother should've turned your father off the night you were concieved
You can block any number lol
I cannot believe I'm seeing this again. Kendra was my BOSS at my colleges IT dept. Most of us believed she did it because she was getting "jealous" of her daughter for basically growing up and spending more time with her friends instead of her. She would always talk about how she's the cool parent... Best part is she was using campus resources to harass her daughter.
I wouldn't be shocked if it turns out Kendra was trying to make her kid super depressed to ruin her childs career/freedom and also Garner sympathy for herself
Same.
Sounds like my mother. She was so different and "christian" and quiet outside of the house, though, to the point that even my husband thought that I was overdramatizing it - at the exact same time that she had been encouraging my identical twin sister to stalk and harass me _for years_ for literally just dating someone for the very first time at the age of 23 - and that's not even getting into all of my childhood BS. My personal guess is this is some narcissistic sociopathic sh*t.
Collages? How are college graduates always the dumbest people?
Holy hell that's wild.
I imagine she was an awful boss lmfao
The only motive I can honestly think of is that the mother is just absolutely miserable and can't stand the thought of her own daughter being happy.
that’s exactly it.
She wants to kill jer daughter but lacks the ability to do it herself. Disgusting
Not surprising, she looks like she peaked in high school
There's definitely a nonzero percentage of people who have children or pets solely to have control/power over something in their life. They're almost always insecure and submissive in all other aspects.
somehow worse than the ones that live their lives and let go of their regrets through their children
A mother telling her own child to kill herself is so gross. What a monster!
Its really sad a mother should be caring and sweet not like this person
@@Swiftaholicaljeez you should meet my mum
Yeah. My dad did that to me repeatedly when I was actually dealing with suicidal ideation and the guy can’t figure out why I don’t want him in my life anymore. ✂️
What’s extra cool about that is my ex-fiancé knew this was going on but wouldn’t let me put boundaries up with my dad because my dad didn’t do it to him, lol… and that’s why he’s my ex-fiancé. ✂️
@@naomianomaly8540 stop i want more attention than you
@@lightninggaming219 Lol you can have it. ❤️
You may be correct about the mother having been bullied at some point while growing up. My mother took great pleasure in punishing me for things that happened to her. The one phrase burned into my memory is "Somebody did this to me and I want you to know what it was like." The dirty secret is that some mothers hate their children. Thank God this one got caught.
WTF so bizarre she would do that given she knew what it felt like. Or do you think she’s secretly a sadomasochist? Very strange sorry you went through that
Ah. Yes. A wise choice to birth a child first whilst the mother has crystal clear issues and problems with her mental life. No need to raise them properly. What can go wrong when the child becomes an adult? 😊👍
Very true…some mothers really do hate their children
@@margaretbonanno654Parents are stupid
You are absolutely right. Some mothers hate their children. It’s hard for most people to grasp that but it’s very true.
Only motivation that makes sense is jealousy and envy. She's probably one of those mom's who say "my daughter's my best friend, I'm a cool mom," and as her daughter grew up and started showing interest in forming other relationships she freaked out and tried to shut it down.
Hell, she may have been envious of her own daughter's successes, still bitter about her own high school experience
Possible. I was thinking it was a new form of Munchausen Syndrome, whatever you call it.
Sounds familiar to me
@@MLBlue30yeah, it really sounds like Munchausen by proxy. Mother wanted to be a victim via her daughter.
That’s not Munchausen, not even a little bit.
@@ULuvJanae i did not claim it was. Munchausen's By Proxy is rare, and in this scenario I think it's more likely the mother was an asshole on a power trip
My mom does a similar thing. She always forced me to eat large amounts of food as a child, because she wanted me to be large and unattractive. She’d actively sabotage friendships and relationships to make me be alone. It took over a decade of not living under her roof to get my head on straight. The psychological damage is the worst part.
Damn that sucks. I hope you are better now.
I'm so sorry this happened to you, i can't even imagine my own mom trying to make me feel horrible. I really hope you're better now with plenty of friends and relationships, I wish you the best :)
Sorry about that mate, my parents are fucked up too so I'm here for you
@@lucasrome2301trust me she doesn’t
All kids deserve perents, BUT BOLY SHIT NOT ALL PERENTS DESERVE KIDS, I feel so horrible for you
I honestly feel terribly sorry for the teenage daughter in this situation. Dealing with a bully in any capacity is awful enough, but to find out that the very bully is your own mother just hits new levels of heartbreaking.
Yeah, I just hope that the daughter has someone she can feel safe with, since her mother broke her trust so much
Hey. I'm your hater. I don't like you 😤
@@fayelinaeright
I know your worse haters are often someone close to you BUT WOW! How unfortunate does someone have to be that their own mother is being a hateful wretch towards them daily!? Sick world
👍
Imagine someone who you trusted since birth doing this to you. Insane. I hope the daughter gets help and heals.
Dont trust nobody but yourself
It’s not insane like you think. It’s a lot more common for mothers to be petty and miserable like this mother nowadays lol. Bunch of resent people will do “insane” things
Lucky for me, I don't have to imagine 🫠 This sounds a lot like my own mother, who I've long suspected is a covert/vulnerable narcissist. She was so different and "christian" and quiet outside of the house, though, to the point that even my husband thought that I was overdramatizing it - at the exact same time that she had been encouraging my identical twin sister to stalk and harass me _for years_ for literally just dating someone for the very first time at the age of 23 - and that's not even getting into all of my childhood BS. My personal guess is this is some narcissistic sociopathic sh*t.
@@SamFagundes it’s more common? Where did you get that statistic?
@@AnthonyBlamthony the fact that more and more mothers as a whole are getting exposed online and people in general getting exposed. dont play stupid with me you weirdo. you know damn well what im referring too. you just dont want to admit it cause your your little ego wont let you lol. but go on
The way the mom worked with authorities, the FBI getting involved to raise the stakes, and the mom even trying to frame her daughter's classmate to throw them off her trail is some straight out of Death Note shit. Truth really is stranger than fiction.
I literally said the same, chick thinks she's Light 💀
Right!
@@-Teague-😭
She acting like Light Yagami
Bros on their villain arc
‘’She wont have her mom around for some time.’’
A mom like that, is it really a loss.
really a | | | || | _
No the BF’s family are normal it seems.
This is beyond sick, imagine being that jealous of your own child.
My mom was, I was adopted. She hated the attention i got. She alway broght up me being adopted.
@RealRileyPlayz_YttI hope it does
@RealRileyPlayz_YttWhat kind of Tolkien language is this?
Go band for band bloodclat @realyozYFGA
@RealRileyPlayz_YttWait, hearts beat??
Control! The daughter had friends and a bf and was living her life. Mother needed to put her back "in her place". Narcissists cant allow you to do better than them.
manipulators* dont lump us with NPD with people like her
my mother didnt do this exact thing, but very very similar, and shes a narcissist.
Narcissistic mothers WILL try to ruin their daughter's life!!!!
my mom is diagnosed with NPD and she sent me formspring questions back in 2008ish so, yeah, p much lol. caught her in it one day, asked why, never got a good reason.
My aunt has narc tendencies. She'd consistently tell me I was fat and body shame me.
I'd take off my glasses and say "Here, you need em more than I do. Cause I'm 20 pounds UNDERweight. You're the one that's always wanting to lose weight. Stop projecting"
She'd throw stuff in my room for insulting her like that.
The most sickening part to me is that, had her daughter followed through on taking her life, she probably would've milked that sympathy card dry for years.
I honestly think that was her plan. Obviously we don't know but since she refuses to say a motive I can only think it's because her plan was more horrible than just messing with her daughter. I don't know all the details but I could see this lady wanting to be child free or something but didn't want to look bad to the public. I think she was hoping that is her daughter took her own life she would get sympathy and attention from others and not look like the bad guy. But this could just be a wild thought brought on by movies and tv plots. But I also wouldn't put it past anyone. Look at all those cases of parents wanting a new life so they murder their kids. Poor girl all around though. No matter what the "mom" was planning she is a horrible person
Well duh it’s a woman.
@@ihateallthethings2683 Shut up, Man.
@@ihateallthethings2683???????
@@lindseyjenner7405she wanted her to do it so she can collect life insurance money
Mom sounds jealous, vindictive, and sadistic.
During my childhood & adolescence, if I showed the least bit of admiration for a mature woman, mom would go bats*it crazy, & work hard to find some fault with that person.
She's extremely old now & still has the emotional mindset of a very mean 11 yr old.
Some moms have a pathological hatred for their daughters.
It's destructive AF for adolescent girls.
It's not a good sign the daughter wants the Court to "go easy" on her mom.
Codependency is toxic!
Being codependent as a child is pretty healthy. At that stage of your life you need someone to rely on. I wouldn't blame her for having empathy. She just got really unlucky with her mother.
Insane story. I think it's all about one thing. She harasses her daughter, goes public about wanting to find her harasser, hoping eventually her daughter will exit life and then she will be the poor poor mother that did EVERYTHING to save her daughter. She'll get publicity, sympathy and money.
Personally, this sounds a lot like my mother to me, who I've long suspected is a covert/vulnerable narcissist. She was so different and "christian" and quiet outside of the house, though, to the point that even my husband thought that I was overdramatizing it - at the exact same time that she had been encouraging my identical twin sister to stalk and harass me _for years_ for literally just dating someone for the very first time at the age of 23 - and that's not even getting into all of my childhood BS. My personal guess is this is some narcissistic sociopathic sh*t.
Exit life? U mean commit suicide?
Money how
@@harmonyquinn2557 Maybe via social media traction, like a GoFundMe, or something of a similar sort. Seems like a thing that someone thinking like that could go for.
@@harmonyquinn2557donations from people who feel bad for her. She'd prob then start a bogus Fundraiser For Suicidal Teens in her daughter's name and pocket most of the money... then you have potential Talk Show appearances.
This is one of the strangest cases of abuse I’ve heard of. Really an out of the box way to anonymously emotionally and psychologically abuse your child. That’s sickening
maybe she was trynna get the daughter out of her life without killing her personally? \
@@danielelder6361 I think that's a pretty solid hypothesis
"Modern problems require modern solutions" 🤷🏻♂️
It's pretty cooked
Munchausen by proxy.
The mom wanted attention and bullied her daughter to get it.
Very creative, very cool
This isn’t just traumatic it’s heart and soul breaking, it’s one thing to deal w the trauma of high school bullies. It’s another to deal with this. I can’t even imagine how much anger confusion and despair I would be feeling if I was the daughter.
this shit is so fucked that i cant stop laughing her mom is legit evilmaxxing
spawn camping
i feel like people bullying their own children is not that uncommon it just usually doesn't manifest in this way
I don’t feel bad the daughter could’ve just blocked the person
you're a moron if you think she didn't try that. @@captainsheep793
Some moms are horrible jealous of their daughters. I've seen a mom build up her son while tearing down her daughter. We've heard of 1 sister being jealous of her other sister's looks. It happens with moms too. Women are taught that looking young makes you more attractive. Some moms can't handle when their daughters start looking attractive and get more attraction from guys than they do. My friend's mom was like this. Mom told lies about my friend. Refused to get her medical treatment when needed which caused life long problems. All while spoiling the brother which also caused him problems.
Wow
My mom and grandmother told me stories of how their neighbors would always bring up their sons but never their daughters, to the point most didn't know they had daughters. This was 50s - 70s
the amount of distrust that daughter is going to have towards others is astounding, i hope she understands that her mother was / is sick, and that this is not a normal situation for anyone to be in.
Fuck that her mom isn’t sick she was aware and cognizant of her actions. Quit associating these people with mental Illness, she’s evil.
Not receiving an explanation could make that harder. She's just gonna wonder "Why ME? What did I do, what's wrong with me? Would anyone target me for the same reason?"
Don’t do coke or meth. This is a great example of her mentality going but there’s no excuse she’s an adult and it was her choices
you dont really recover from that kinda shit. I've been lied to for years and had a bunch of money stolen from one of the people who raised me who put up similar ridiculous facades, fake online identities and everything. I understand she's sick in the head (still accepts 0 responsibility for anything) but that doesn't take away the realization that no matter how close a person is to you, anyone can lie to you and get away with it if they want. even the people you wouldn't expect in a million years.
@@TheT3rr0rMask years and years of therapy is the only way to help rewire someone's brain, if the daughter goes and seeks help. this happened during one of the most pivotal stages in a child's development too and so i hate to know that she is going to be struggling for a long time because of a monster of a person. you cant even call that person a mother or a parent.
I can’t imagine how the daughter feels to find out that your mom hates you THAT much.
You didn’t finish the video.
three replies up there are fatherless
Wtf are these comments bruh
ok
@@mainedPlatehuh? Finished the vid and nothing was said opposite to the mom hating her kid, or did I miss it?
This is proof that just because someone is family, doesn't mean they want the best for you
@realyozYFGAwho are you💀gayku pfp user
Uhhh no?
@realyozYFGABruh your videos are so bad.. you dont talk and got stupid music and tiny words around a powerpoint presentation... why not sit in front of a camera and say what u got to say unless your a shy little coward
@@ripadblockno what
I knew this after my mother left me and my sister for drugs.
My grandmother did stuff like this to multiple generations cos she's a repulsive psycho. She was worse if she suspected you were "abandoning" her. (She literally tried to get my aunt killed cos she DARED to get engaged. She also spread around that i chose to be a pr0 stitute cos I chose to get married instead of choosing to be her free nurse)
From personal experience... This lunatic probably saw her daughter being more independent and having a bf... and wanted to attack to "keep her in line". This is a woman that feels entitled to her child's personal life and like she OWNS her therefore she bullied this girl to keep her down, tame and scared.
And depending on her "caring mother" that went as far as getting an investigation started.
This is so sickening and i hope her daughter gets all the love and support she needs after this selfish monster did this.
Every child deserves a parent, but not every parent deserves a child.
The truth needs to be accepted but sometimes you can't accept the truth
@@vortexherelol the pfp makes this even more ominous
@@Killbayne :I
this comment is so over used by now. we get it already!! can you please comment something original next time?
@@scorpion-lg4ic sthu
I definitely get some “Savior” vibes, creating a hateful character to torment her daughter and then act the caring mom who will work with authorities to stop the bullying.
@realyozYFGA goku sucks
My thoughts exactly. Many arsonists turn out to be firemen.
*saviour
@@sliyan6726
True story, tho usually volunteers starting forest fires. Then they get to be the hero that puts out the fire. Don’t get me wrong, not ALL firefighters are arsonists, but it does happen.
@@sliyan6726It’s not the majority. It’s a very very small minority.
You can read about it yourself.
I just wanted to correct this, because it’s like the police shooting thing. People tend to think thousands upon thousands are killed by cops every year, making the majority of cops bad.
But less than 1,500 African Americans, less than 3,000 Caucasian’s have been killed by cops SINCE 2017.
( it’s around 200 per year, and 400 respectively)
And who knows how many were justified ( ie a person being armed, shooting at the cops, trying to take a cops gun etc)
Narcissists destroy everyone they meet.
Only wrathful ones, prideful ones just annoy people but their so obsessed with themselves they dont have a care for taking others down
Sounds like my mother, who I've long suspected now is a covert/vulnerable narcissist. She was so different and "christian" and quiet outside of the house, though, to the point that even my husband thought that I was overdramatizing it - at the exact same time that she had been encouraging my identical twin sister to stalk and harass me _for years_ for literally just dating someone for the very first time at the age of 23 - and that's not even getting into all of my childhood BS. My personal guess is this is some narcissistic sociopathic sh*t.
My father is diagnosed with narcissism and this couldn’t be anymore true.
You have no idea what narcissism is
Except for other narcissists, they team up like packs of hyenas
My theory is that the mom was jealous of her daughter. Probably she felt as if her daughter had robbed her of her youth, or some crazy stuff like that.
Working with authorities and trying to frame someone else should be its own crime with extra sentence. What a sicko.
AGREED
It is - Slander under oath and Unlawful incrimination attempt
coming from an abusive mother myself, the fact that it's reported that she continuously told her daughter to "k*ll herself" leads me to believe that the mother didn't want to be a mother and wanted to rid the world of her daughter without getting her own hands dirty.
the fact that no one seems to be wise to that nefariousness is super concerning to me
That, or a mental issue. I agree man
I think she wanted to isolate her from her boyfriend
you're an abusive mother?
@@goofygoober875 sure, that's what i meant
@@goofygoober875reading comprehension is not your strong suit i see😂
I can't even imagine being the therapist who has to unwind this.
Yeah how do you address a patient who is that evil
@@wanderingseth "Have you considered Canadian healthcare, Mrs. Lakari?"
"Why would anyone ever do this?"
Sometimes I think we try to hard to figure stuff like this out, when sometimes it's just because they can...
It's never just "because one can".
There's always some underlying condition and problem rhetorik that resulted in this behavior.
@@hiiambarney4489 She's a narcissist. She can't stand that her daughter is happier. Might be a psychopath too.
*Remembers Undertale*
@@hiiambarney4489
This kind of mindset will end up with you in court one day because you tried defending an armed robber. Sometimes people will be awful just because they can.
Family isn't everything. It's not even the only thing....
You can't choose the family you're born into... but even friends and strangers can be more compassionate towards you than family.
😢sadly true especially nowadays
You're absolutely right! I have had strangers on the street treat me better than my mother.
The gods gave us relatives, but thank God we can choose our friends.
@@MaureenLycaon you're so right.
Yeah… you don’t get to choose your family and when you have a good one you’ve actually lucked out. Seek healing ❤.
Her mother really took the quote, “Keep your friends close and your enemies closer”, to the heart. Sheesh!
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incest i guess
NAWW literally 😭😭
D1 HATER ON SIGHT
reverse flash
Really impressed by the commitment, she was sending these messages for over a year like it was her 9-5
Also how do you recieve 300 pages of messages without blocking this shit 😭.
@@layn7115 that is what I'm wondering.would of had them blocked day 1 xD
@@layn7115 im sorry but are you victim blaming the child that was getting harassed by her own mother????
@@alicemadness999 Nah he's just saying it's kinda wild she never blocked her at any point after a year of harassment. Like it seems like an easy solution to avoid being spammed with hate on the daily, not that she did anything wrong by not blocking her
@@alicemadness999I am actually. Any kid on the internet can find a fucking ip address and just stop opening them. All this tech for kids and they whine when someone uses it in a way they don’t approve of.
“You think im Kira?” Moment
“She didn’t want to be responsible for sending her mother to jail”
Lol she’s not responsible, this is 100% on her crazy mum. Really feel bad for this girl.
She won't probably understand that at her age, thats why she said that.
@realyozYFGAnobody carw about your channel so stfu
Poor girl. I hope she realises she doesn't have to keep her mother in her life and doesn't have to be nice to (let alone tolerate) her
The mom sounds like someone who is extremely jealous of her daughter and wanted to hurt her privately while appearing as a "hero" on the outside. This mother is beyond mentally disturbed and delusional to spend every day sending hateful messages to her own child. Regardless if the mother was bullied in the past, there is absolutely no right to go this far to hurt your own baby.
I have a better term for what you described.
Mentally challenged.
Id say its fairly obvious that people who do such petty things cant really think straight or of the bigger picture.
Basically the syndrome of parents
It's mind boggling how pointless some of these criminals actions are, like they don't even gain anything at the end of the day.
Here before the trolls come
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Straight outta american dad episode 💀
@@XxProGamerUSAxX nah cuz the mom's trolling came before even u
It is nothing for you because you are normal, for the mom and her pathetic life it is everything she has, and gets her kicks out of it.
my mother and older sister would make fake social media accounts and catfish -- part of my mother's agenda amongst other things was to try and force me into thinking I'm gay. Needless to say I don't talk to either of them anymore
This didn’t happen lol
@@PartnershipsForYou Actually sometimes it can. People have ideas of what they want their kids to be and while most parents want straight kids and some can be cruel to get it other awant gay kids and can also be cruel to get jt
Probably because she was so petrified of her daughter getting pregnant, or just downright jealousy that she could score a bf.
there's definitely some twisted psychotic reason behind it. from envy because her daughter is in a good relationship or over possessiveness, to her having feelings on the bf and she views her as competition
it was just a prank dude
Munchausen by proxy.
@realyozYFGAdon't care + I have proof you like to watch sissy hypnosis videos when you're done typing these comments
@realyozYFGAyou give shame with that pfp
not surprised by this mom-of-teenage-daughter behavior. honestly so many girls, as they approach adulthood, have their mom’s lash out at them - I think it’s largely just veiled jealousy.
it’s like if you’re a teenage dude, just had a growth spurt, and you’re starting to get _almost_ as strong as your dad… but so he gets pissed about it and just decks you haha
So many people don’t deserve to have kids, it’s sad.
Yeah, I wonder why those having kids in first place if in the end they hate it and abandon them...
They can just send the child to social department or orphanage OR let the caring relatives taking care the child and let them adopt the child if they arent that willing or capable
Or just dont do any marriage or the "deed" at all
@@ainzer2903some people have kids simply so they have something that will be subservient to them, something that CANT leave. And once they’re old enough to finally get away, this kind of stuff happens. Some people get off on seeing those who they should love and protect the most suffer. And some people never saw something they didn’t want to kick, just to see if it would still come back to them.
Emotional sadists.
I agree wholeheartedly. And there are too many people out there who would make absolutely wonderful parents who can't have children. Not to mention the 16,000 kids (in my state alone) in foster care due to their terrible parents.
Imagine getting cyber bullied by the person that literally gave you life, that’s gotta be next level emotional damage
Her ability to trust people is definitely damaged forever...
whats crazy is being cyber bullied
I'm sorry but all i could think of when i read this was Stephen He
Well at least her dad didn't do that, so there's that I guess
Meet the Spy
She slipped-up by ending all of her messages with "Love, Mom."
lol
Given how she also cyberbullied her boyfriend, this leads me to believe the reason behind it is Freudian. She could've viewed him as a rival for her daughter's attention.
Munchausen by proxy.
The mom wanted attention and bullied her daughter to get it, she probably was getting off on cooperating with the police.
my boyfriend and i are in a similar situation with his mom, she is really back handed but this mom is a whole new kind of insane for me
@@lavenderlazorise2458 Moms like this have a weird Oedipus complex with their sons, very manipulative and controlling of them too
Or she this she is in competition with her daughter for a young mans attention. This is more common for the type of girl moms who to this
Woman. ☕️
As someone who grew up with a stepmother who hated every aspect of their life, I immediately thought it was a situation like that. My stepmom would make petty comments about everything I wore, how I did my hair, my friends, my interests...everything. They made her feel good and destroyed my self-esteem to the point where I had to fall in line with whatever she wanted to feel remotely good. I really feel like this situation was similar to mine, but she was trying to mask that she was the one doing it so the parent/child bond wouldn't be broken.
Do you suspect NPD is the issue?
Also, sorry about all of the bs you had to endure. Wish you well on the road to healing.
I just want to say to the OP and to the reply towards the OP that I admire both of your courage to share your stories and I hope that in doing so, both of you are able to find some comfort and healing. I hope that someday both of you can be surrounded by those who appreciate and value you for who you are.
That sounds very much like Narcissistic Personality Disorder. Having a mother like that whether biological or not, can leave a person with Complex PTSD. Not fun.
@@raya6508 If I was a dictator, these people would feel absolute wrath on earth, just along with porn site owners and zionist politicians.
it's really not
Trusting people after that experience would be really hard. That's beyond crazy.
It could also be a sort of hero complex. Be there to hold your daughter, couch your daughter through this, get attention from friends around you saying you’re doing a good job comforting.
My idea was a variation of that- it's a twisted new form of "Munchausen by proxy". In the place of faking medical conditions for attention it's instead cyber-bullying
Charlie points that out in the video. Münchausen syndrome. It’s usually when a mother deliberately gets their child sick, so they can be seen as the hero that takes care of her babies
@@McZachary44 Oh my mistake, I must of missed it. I paused and resumed the video a few times as I was doing some cooking.
@@McZachary44 Münchausen is a different mental illness to hero complex. It kind of stems from the same.
@@McZachary44 Münchausen syndrome by proxy is that one that probably exists, but is still debated a little bit right?
This takes the quote "keep your friends close but your enemies closer" to the a whole new level
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I don't apologise to bully my family
i sware charlies channel is just bot central at this point
@RealRileyPlayz_YttNobody cares.
The text are coming...from inside the house!
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It's a shame she got so short of a sentence, I'm sure her daughter would appreciate the extra calm and peace.
It is a shame the daughter wanted such a lenient sentence for the mother, she shouldn't feel guilty that her mother is facing consequences for harassing not only her but her boyfriend too! I am glad the boyfriend and his family did not go easy on the mother, because something as atrocious as that can't just be excused without punishment.
@@Naoto-kun1085bro it's her own mother, it's easy for you to judge but if your own mother does it no matter what it's your mother you love her you don't want her to go to prison forever, think about it.
But maybe i say this because my mother is awesome tbh, idk
@@starboiklem8381 My mother would never do something like this, but if she did then I would feel heartbroken and betrayed, and I would want her to be held accountable for her actions, because if she got away with actual abuse without facing any consequences, she would will never learn! Consequences are necessary for growth, so even if I forgave her then I'd still expect her to face the consequences for her own good. However, the daughter may not be old enough to recognize this, and so I don't blame her for not knowing this, but it's still sad.
@@starboiklem8381it's so glaringly obvious that you've never been abused or traumatized by your own parents saying this shit
I wonder if it IS Munchausen with a twist. What if she wanted to be her daughter’s comforter and rescuer? She sees that if her daughter is frightened and sad, and the worse the texts get, the more the daughter stays at home, turns to her for comfort and actually TALKS to her. It might have started with a couple slightly nasty texts from the girls’s friends, the girl talks to her mom about them and the mom sees it as an opportunity to “strengthen their relationship.”
As a parent, like all the other parents in history, there comes a time when your baby just isn’t that interested in being around you or even talking to you about things. It is very sad for parents, but we just accept that they are growing up and becoming independent.
I think no parent would want to admit they would do something so viscous and trauma-creating just to get their child to talk to them more. It certainly does indicate a severe co-dependence and insecurity rather than malevolent intentions, imho.
A bit like a parent who convinces a child they mustn’t ever leave the house because of danger….but she added a bit of drama and threat evidence to help convince.
No completely balanced parent would ever understand & think that was ok & maybe she thought confessing it would get her a higher sentence (or committed)
No.. she is evil... why add incentives for her daughter to KILL HERSELF?
I know exactly why the mom did it. I was raised by a mother just like her, except she said every cruel thing to my face. Every day, screaming, blaming, accusing me and punishing me for just being a kid. It’s sad how being bullied by your own parent (aka emotional abuse) isn’t taken seriously until they hide behind a social media account, then suddenly it’s considered stalking and abuse of a minor.
Sounds like my mother. She was so different and "christian" and quiet outside of the house, though, to the point that even my husband thought that I was overdramatizing it - at the exact same time that she had been encouraging my identical twin sister to stalk and harass me _for years_ for literally just dating someone for the very first time at the age of 23 - and that's not even getting into all of my childhood BS. My personal guess is this is some narcissistic sociopathic sh*t.
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I discovered my own mother had been creating problems for me over the decades too, it's a very strange scenario to accept. Some people are very manipulative, dark, and evil, they'll come across as very well natured too, that's the worst part.
My mom was mad that I refused to speak w her, so she called cops and said I threatened to off her. That guaranteed me not speaking to her. Now she is at end of life stage and pretty much alone bc my bro put her in a facility 90 miles away in a mountain town w no access via bus or rail.
same. except my mom still lives in her home. She showed up at my job a few weeks ago and badmouthed me to my boss. she is 70 and still pissed at my dad from 40 years ago and still taking it out on me. I'm getting a restraining order.
@@justinlong5892In “My Mother the Psychopath” by Olivia Rayne, the author describes how her mother called the director of the summer camp where the daughter was working, and told him that her daughter was a sex offender! Luckily Olivia was able to prove this wasn’t true.
Thats what most narcissistic mother's, outwardly appearance to everyone els us that of a friendly, helpful, loving person. But as soon as your alone behind closed doors......
Yep, especially if they have people in their church fooled
As someone who's mom actively tells me how everyone including animals actually hates me and I have no real friends except her I think her mom just wanted the daughter isolated and depressed so she's easier to control. It also feels like passive aggressive anger where she can punish her daughter whenever she feels like it but still make herself the good guy. My mom is exactly like this.
So sorry you have to go through that. Hope you have a support system to help you deal with this. Good luck.
Damn that sucks. I am glad you are aware of it and can try to escape from that abuse. Temporarily or for good.
Damn that sucks. I am glad you are aware of it and can try to escape from that abuse. Temporarily or for good.
Damn that sucks. I am glad you are aware of it and can try to escape from that abuse. Temporarily or for good.
What's crazy to me is that she had to act differently in person to not rise any eyebrows for her being the one doing it. If she straight up showed her hatred, people would've picked on her way sooner. Imagine.
"i promise you there are people who don't like you" thanks bro
Can't have haters if no-one knows you exist.
I think it was probably a way for the mother to make herself seem more essential in her daughter's life in some way. Like providing emotional support and shit and always being soooo eager to catch that darn stalker. She wanted her daughter to continue being utterly emotionally dependent on her forever
My thoughts as well and it seems very obvious. She wanted to be her daughter's hero.
Great analysis
At a surface level, it reminds me of those nurses who nearly kill their patient but miraculously save them just in the nick of time to be the hero. You know... When it works and they don't accidentally actually kill their patient.
That being said, I'm not a mind reader and I don't have *all* the information so it's just speculation on my part.
I can definitely think of other motives too. Like maybe the stuff she was saying had a kernal of truth and she was trying to get her daughter to improve but didn't have the backbone to have the hard conversations. Or maybe it was just plain ol' hatred.
I bet she was even messaging her stuff like “Your parents probably hate you” only for her daughter to find out it’s actually her mom
talk about projection lmao
Can’t even imagine what the kid must be going through. I’d be even more scared of her mum when she’s out of prison, because you can just imagine she’s spent 2-5 years thinking how she’s going to worm her way back into her life. You’d never be able to trust her again, yet she’ll clearly claim she loves her and she’s sorry.
How much you wanna bet the entire time this was happening, the mom was going "I warned you about those dangerous people on the internet" to her own daughter to feign her caring.
Every child deserves a parent.
Not every parent deserves a child.
Make no sense
@@VJETRAevery child deserves a good and loving parent, but not all people who are parents should EVER have had children, like this mother
@@gooodmorning4526 yes i know but when you use the same parent word make it sound like it implying all parent.
@@VJETRA they literally said "not every parent" wdym
@@gooodmorning4526 the text above only say parent so it include the "some parent " below
As a parent, why would you ever do this? It just makes no sense.
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some of the worst comments are the ones who rush to say the obvious before they watch the video
Shut up crypto scam
u posted this when the video has only been out 3 minutes, stop fishing for likes.
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This broke my heart. I can’t imagine treating my kids this way. That poor girl. 😢
As a father, I couldn’t agree more. I hope life deals her karma 10x
"Well I got bullied in highschool so why should you not be?" Its the same thing people do in retail. "Oh I worked in retail, it was hell" but then are the karens. Thats the only reason I can think of why she is doing this to her own child.
I went through mental and physical abuse from my mother and stepdad for most of my childhood,. And then one day when I was 13 they got really drunk and put me on out the side of a highway at 1am and drove away. And then they lied about all of it in court. I'm 40 now. And to this day, I still can't tell you why parents can be evil to their kids. I still don't have any answers to any of it.
Sometimes people just hate having children, they see them and want to inflict on them the pain and frustration they've had all their life but because they don't know how to express that in different ways they lash out to what they feel is their recreation and culprit of their problems
Most of the time is just a myriad of psychological problems that exacerbates by a toxic environment and things as narcissistic inferiority complex.
i can't possibly imagine seeing a vulnerable kid that you have power over and genuinely thinking "wow i could get away with hurting this thing! let's go!" in the mother's case she didn't want to be at fault and took lengths to stay anonymous so maybe it was some sort of. hurting her so she'd come to her mother in some weird controlling tactic?
That's exactly the reason why I'm a strong supporter of a "parents license". Give people mandatory therapy and training before or after they've gotten their baby, because they owe their children THAT much at least.
i can tell this is a lie. keep parenthating, this is SURELY going to end well for the impressionable next gen.
@@orewaren8549You’re way too confident in your ignorance. I can literally name 20+ clients of mine that this has happened to.
Her mother was getting enjoyment from causing mental anguish to others, even her own daughter.
Now she will spend the rest of her life known as the disgusting mother who terrorized her own daughter.
this looks very much like Munchhausen by proxy to me - and the mother used new tech
Every child deserves a parent but not every parent deserves a child
Imagine finding out about this..the person who's supposed to be your biggest fan, attacking you..I couldn’t imagine even my mom doing this to me. Daughter deserves better. Much better.
God damn these bots are obnoxious
@@brandonwolfe4000 honestly TH-cam really could delete bot comments automatically with the amount of repeating words they use. they do the same thing with spam and stuff. so it's clear that they just don't care enough.
@@star-not-moonfacts
i mean i can kinda imagine it
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Thank God she’s growing up without her mom. She should divorce her mother. This is horrific and the mother is sick. She is a psychopath.
_not a psychopath: a NARCISSIST._
im so glad that mom got prison time and i hope the daughter has been able to heal from the trauma. its crazy to think how the mom probably wouldnt have gotten into any legal trouble if she had said all that to her daughters face instead of pretending to be a stalker and hadnt gotten the police involved. in my experience, CPS and the authorities rarely take emotional abuse seriously. the saying, "a girls first bully is her mother" is painfully true.
Never heard that saying but it really is sad how police and CPS don't take kids seriously when they need to
@@bigjalapeno7061 idk if its considered an official saying but recently ive seen a lot of other women quoting it because unfortunately a lot of us can relate to our mothers being our first bully. i agree. its heartbreaking how emotional abuse or just any abuse in general unfortunately is not taken as seriously as it such be by authorities
CPS in my experience often has two extremes of their approach. They're either unwilling to do anything and unconvinced anything bad is occuring, or they're willing to do anything and believe fully that is something bad is occurring. This often leads to children in extremely abusive homes not getting help, and/or children in at worst mildly dysfunctional homes being taken away from their parents with CPS attempting to ensure they can never return ever again. There are a few reasons for this such as the social worker involved having a bit of swing on how CPS approaches an issue so depending on the social worker you got then they might be either understanding and balanced in how they report things or they might be super extreme about how they report the issue back to CPS. Also, budgeting renewal deadlines also makes CPS more likely to try and engage in frivolous legal battles so that they can use up the remaining budget so they don't get less funding for the next budget. This is an especially scummy reason tbh.
@@anonymouscommentor411 CPS is incredibly corrupt, their workers literally get paid bonuses based on how many children they remove.
There's something truly dreadful about the person you should be able to trust the most being the one who hurts you the most.
Like I've said before... family isn't everything.
Nobody knows you better than yourself.
Years later, I bet that mom is going to wonder why her daughter doesn't call or visit anymore.
fr, this is so sad
No she’s not..
No, did you watch the video? But who cares you're probably a bot that copied a comment
Some loser spamming comments I reported them
@@elbowman9213 Narcissistic parents always feel entitled to a relationship with their children. She absolutely will be wondering this with zero self awareness.
Who needs enemies when you have *mom* .
The only thing I can think of is she has a hero complex. Getting to comfort her poor, bullied daughter made her feel like a better parent, a great person. Sad and pathetic
I'd agree with this the most. She bullies her daughter. Daughter then comes to her for comfort. Mom gets to feel like a hero. Rinse and repeat
It's almost certainly Munchausen Syndrome by Proxy. The method of causing pain to the loved one is less important than what can be gained from it: sympathy for the daughter but most importantly for the mother as the caregiver to the sufferer. And as you stated, that is where the hero complex comes in; it's a central component of MSP. That would explain why the mother was so involved with the authority's efforts. She's on a crusade to find the evil doers and save the poor innocent child.
If you transpose this case onto a classic example of MSP, it matches up strikingly well. A mother makes her child sick and becomes enmeshed in the hospital's effort to find the illness and save the child; a mother makes her child miserable and traumatised and becomes enmeshed in law enforcement's efforts to find the culprit and save the child.
I had a mother who did this to my face. The mother is jealous of her daughter, a young woman who has her whole life ahead of her and if she’s happy for even a second it sparks some kind of rage and that happiness must be put down at every turn
The dedication the mom has is unmatched, spent a whole year hating on their own child💀
It was non stop hating
2 years
"hating on their own child" why the sudden gender neutral _their_ there lmao
Even telling her to kill herself. Trust is gone forever.
@@geckopecko Why not? Some people default to gender neutral as that is easier. Myself included.
General rule of thumb: if the hater is too good, they're probably a traitor
How sad of a person do you have to be to bully the person youre meant to protect the most, your own child.
Probably hates the father and takes it out on the daughter.
she was jealous of her daughters boyfriend
"it should've been me not her!"
People like this are like the embodiment of misery loves company
@@fus3n she also bullied the boyfriend
@Axeeco "if i cant have him neither can she" - probably the mom
A similar situation happened to me, in which an ex's current girlfriend sent me 200+ texts and calls within a 2 month window. It was goddamn scary when they got my work address, and apparently would doxx me (home address, number, ig, snapchat) and get their friends to do it. I dont understand it. They got time in jail, THIS "mother" got time in jail, IS IT WORTH IT? THEY WILL FIND YOU. I hope her daughter never forgives her, she does NOT deserve it.
wtf thats insane, glad you got out of that situation
reverse flash levels of hate
not the same , not similar .
Absolutely nailed it on the Münchausen-by-proxy analysis. It's a really unusual variation in that the methods used were purely social rather than physiological, but the root pathology is obviously present.
The psychological case studies that are going to come out of this one are going to be fascinating, and they definitely aren't going to reflect flatteringly on a lot of people.
I hope this line of thinking gets chased down, somehow. Seeing a lot of stories in the comments similar to this, similar to mine, of how we (the daughters) were "our mothers' only friend/supporter", lots of cases of kids becoming their mom's therapists etc etc. Maybe some form of long-term post partum issues? maybe attachment issues, feelings of ownership (over the child) etc caused by circumstances surrounding the child's conception and birth? In my case, my mother had a tubal litigation before i was born so i could see the resentment from that turning into the feeling that she was right to try to make me into Heidi 2: Electric Boogaloo, or something?
I agree with you about the Munchausen's by proxy. It makes sense, especially as emotional and psychological problems are so much more fashionable than old standards like leukaemia. Psychological abuse from a position of anonymity is the obvious next step. She must have loved playing the hero Mom dealing with the FBI.
@@lobstermash not just trendier, but also far easier to artificially set up or fabricate without getting caught. That said, it also seems like most of the mothers who do it more this way aren't giving a whole lot of thought to the "how" of what they're doing, which just baffles me with how elaborate the manipulation schemes usually are.
It's as if aging white suburban women just have some whole hidden cranial lobe exclusively for plotting Macchiavellian shit like this without any conscious effort. It's uncanny.
So... Munchausen by proxy server?
Munchausen isn't a real disease. It is just made up by the JWO
"Your biggest hater, who are they?"
"Well of course I know him, he's me."
I know and have witnessed mothers who do this. It is to maintain their control, sometimes break up relationships they dont like.
And by “don’t like” that can be anyone who might outshine them, or is emotionally supportive to their daughter.
Parents who are more balanced and look out for their children may have fears about bad influences or intentions, but vampire parents have other motivations.
And by “don’t like” that can be anyone who might outshine them, or is emotionally supportive to their daughter.
Parents who are more balanced and look out for their children may have fears about bad influences or intentions, but vampire parents have other motivations.
Exactly.
People ask why but fail to realize this isn't something new. She was just stupid enough to leave behind traces of her abuse. Many children go through abuse like this every day without any documentation or any investigations and they know exactly that it's their guardians that do it to them, which hurts a lot more.
I mean i had really abusive parents.... but they would have never work in an investigstion of it and try to frame my classmate for it while being nice to my face. Shitty abusive parenting isnt weird unfortunately, this case is.
@@patrickmcpartland1398 she's an absolute narcissist. No doubt about it. Those types that isolate and belittle people to make them solely dependent on them instead. Those types that want to be worshipped. She just used technology to her advantage. It's more creative but it's not that weird to me because I've seen these types irl.
With a mother like that, who needs enemies?
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No one, Nobody
no i understand this, my mum and her sisters have tried to sabotage my independence and self esteem my whole life, i guess they're narcissists w internalised misogyny, bc she's so kind and gentle w my male cousins, but the hatred she has treated me w by comparison, i think she sees me and sees everything she hates about herself, doesn't want to see me "surpassing" her and becoming successful, or at least "leaving her", so she'll always be in control, always "dominate" me
a lot of people talk about physically abusive fathers, but no one really talks about the insidiousness of emotionally abusive mothers
anyway i live in a diff country from her now, it took a lot to get away, but i hope i'll never have daughters (or children at all) for fear of becoming like her and her sisters
She was tired of being a mom and wanted the daughter to end their relationship in the most F'd up way.
@realyozYFGA Didnt ask + bot alert
@@NamomedTheTF2Enjoyerif it's a bot then why tf are you replying?? It's not like it's gonna change anything lmao
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damn i feel bad for her, cant imagine what it was like for her to wake up in the same house with her mom while all of that was happening and not knowing
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Well since she didnt know she prob felt fine 😂 its now that her stomach is turning
@@Beanzopsthey're the best ones
@@menace2society00 yeah but after her mom got exposed it probably left her in shock knowing she had (probably) lived with her all that time and didnt think anything of it
@@Emerz11111 I think the most fucked up part would be the fact she probably told her mom about the "bully" and her mom was prob like "poor baby we need to stop this" 🤣
Wow. That is so f’d up! My daughter experienced bullying for a couple of years which started at age 12. It broke my heart knowing what she was going through. I can’t even comprehend how a mother could do that. Makes me so mad and upset for her daughter.
"Even if the Perfect person did exist they would have haters."
Jesus Christ is a testament to that.
idk this guy gave out wine which is quite harmful
@@saigastellar Thank you for further proving their point
She's probably jealous of the happiness and relationship her daughter had/has
I think maybe the mom haves a boyfriend or something because I didn't hear about the father in the history. There's a lot of cases with mothers jealous of daughters and turn against them in fear of losing their couple. I know it's crazy but surprisingly common.
@@LeonelEBD the mom could still have a boyfriend and be jealous of her daughter it really all depends on the internal details and dynamics of the situation and relations
Psychopatic narcissism. Where normal mothers would feel proud of her daughter, a narcisist mother might see her daughter as a threat and feel the need to exert her dominance to "stay on top". By causing her harm this way, the mother suddenly became a safe haven again. She had her baby back, the rebelling teen with boyfriend is put down. But with the involvement of the police and she "helping" them it becomes a thrill and goes all out with framing some kids. That makes me add the psychopath to narcissism.
As someone who’s own Mother also turned out to indeed be their biggest hater/Disney Villan…the Mother is probably a Sociopath who will literally never tell anyone their honest motive. Mine still to this day will take ZERO accountability and refuses to say “Why” she did what she did. Also Charlie please don’t try to figure out the “Why” because you will hurt yourself. Some people are just monsters. I’m glad this girl is finally free from the toxicity. Truly wishing her only happiness and positive vibes from here on out!!
I don't get why people like that even have children
@@bigjalapeno7061 I asked her the same question. She did not answer that question but instead proceeded to attempt to convince me that my reality was wrong.
Narcissism is a hell of a drug. I’m so sorry.
@@bigjalapeno7061 because people like that don't think of children as their own individuals, they think of them as pets that they can teach some commands and they will listen like dogs do.
@@sst4rscr34m I guess that makes sense but it's fucked up
It sounds like she doesn't want a daughter anymore so she's trying to make her self delete.
"The call is coming from inside the house!"
@realyozYFGA Lies
@realyozYFGAyour parents don’t love you
They wouldn’t have caught me I’m just saying
Dio level of hatred
thats crazy bro like dang liike holy moly like crazt like on my god my like osh luje nano abouto like me and i like me personally like ohj no like me like thats way to off bro like holy@realyozYFGA
Didnt ask weeb
Lol fr dio sitting back impressed with this one
Reverse flash level of hatred
Reminds me when light worked with L to find kira
as a father I fear these things happening to my children, i cannot fathom how a parent could do this to their child
Let's do the man dance me/you in the squad circle
@@RickTheBoss98 wot? :0
@@thisdeath the man dance
Ty for being empathetic, I bet you're a good Dad
Nobody should fear this. This isn't empathy. If you think your partner could do this then you either hate your partner, dont trust them or you've seen something in them that makes you think this is something they could do. This isn't the behaviour of a bad parent, it's the behaviour of a monster. And despite the news focusing on them, there is only a miniscule amount of monsters in the world.
This is the plot of ‘Awkward’ the tv show
Some parents hate their offspring, it’s much more common than everyone thinks. Offspring comes start taking time, money, energy and some people are too weak to endure. Having no one to blame for their own acts they project all the frustration for their own weakness into their children. Saw it happen more than I can count.
At this point, I'm convinced that parents who don't hate their kids are rare.
It’s like that episode of South Park where Kyle’s dad stays up late to just troll and harass people from the elementary school then during the day acts like nothings happened
But what he did was fucking funny lol
But Kyle's dad didn't cyber bully his own son. Reality is worse 😭