I think your theory is correct but I’d go the route that the only reason why asta is alive right now is because he had no mana, not because his mom took his mana. If he had mana he probably would’ve been killed while still developing in his mother. Also who the hell is his dad😳 like how is it even possible to do anything with this girl when she’s literally killing you slowly? So that’s why I think she is cursed because her magic lets her seal magic lacking things in other things. The part about stealing life force and magic could be a curse that was placed on her after she got pregnant by astas dad, then he either left or died because of it.
You know its pretty sad that Lichita had to give up Asta if she didn't have her condition she would have been an awesome mom and Asta would have had a normal happy life maybe she would have raised Asta and Liebe together that would have been cool to see.
If she had known that Asta had no mana, she'd have known that she didn't need to give him up at all. Asta's even immune to his life being drained, as proven in the reincarnation arc when that purple stuff Zagred summoned did _nothing_ to Asta.
I love how you said "potential mother" as opposed to just mother. It's clear that you're reading the manga with an open mind and a very clear understanding of what's happening in the show. You've earned my subscribe. You're not a clickbaiter
“Help the helpless. Help the poor. Help the needy. Help the orphan. Be the joy for they that suffer in latent. They might not have money to repay you. They might not be able to offer an equal returns of service, but, the inner peace which they may get in their spirit for a moment shall be an awesome lifetime blessings to your body and spirit” ― Ernest Agyemang Yeboah
*Long, developed theory below:* I think that Licita's body can only suck magic and lifeforce from something that has magic/mana in the first place. Otherwise the plants around her and her house would always be wilting and dying, and the dragonfly on Liebe's tail we saw her leaning close to in the flashback would have dropped dead. Now that in mind, what about the snake that dropped dead at Licita's feet during her introduction to Liebe? Well, we saw in episodes 8 and 9 of Season 1 that some animals like the fire boars have magic power of their own. So, it stands to reason and lines up with this theory that the "poison snake" had some magic and was therefore supsectable to Licita's magic+life draining while the dragonfly from before and plants around her house weren't. Now assuming Licita is Asta's mother and keeping this theory in mind: I believe that Asta's genetic mutation that kept "the mana from dwelling within him" (quote from episode 63) is what allowed him to be born in the first place. If he had been in danger of his lifeforce being sucked away, it would have have when he was conceived and still in the womb. So, this mutation of rejecting magic/mana was the way his body "somehow, it found a way to survive" (quote from episode 6). Without his lifeforce being interwoven with a personal affinity to magic, his lifeforce was protected from being siphoned away and Asta was able to live, develop, and ultimately be born. As for why Licita gave Asta up to the church at Hage? I believe the answer is that she didn't want to sentence him to a life stuck with only her for company. Even though it would be hard for her magicless boy (as she would know he was), he could have a life among other people. He didn't have to live a life of seclusion like she had been forced to. So, out of her immense love for her little boy, she let Asta go: Dropping him off in the Forsaken Realm village of Hage, where his magiclessness could be explained away by the general low level of magic in people in that area. And at the church were he would be accepted and raised despite that. Later, when she stumbled upon Liebe, Licita would have known from her body's lack of pulling magic+life from him that it was safe for her to approach and extend a helping hand. Then -- whether it was his likeness to her baby boy (in appearance and lack of magic), the fact that as a devil he would be a permeant outcast to society like herself, or a combination of the two and her caring nature -- Licita extended the offer to Liebe to "stay here and be her kid" where it would only be a benefit to them both. And indeed it was a blessing for both of them. Right up to the event where Lucifero hijacked Liebe and Licita sacrificed herself to save her foster son and preserve his freedom from Lucifero by putting him inside the Five-Leaf Grimoire she had found. Now, jumping to a related topic: How did the Anti-Magic manifestation even come about, when both Liebe (the devil the power supposedly springs from) and Asta (the wielder of said power) are specifically called being *without magic* (not having the opposite of it, simply a lack of it). I think it comes from a combination of four factors: the fact that it was a Five-Leaf Clover Grimoire that Licita's magic sealed Liebe into, that Liebe is a magicless devil, Licita's magic and body's mutation, as well as Asta's mutation and the circumstances before he got his grimoire. Now a Five-Leaf grimoire is a grimoire that was once a Four-Leaf (and thus innately very magically powerful with a dash of "good luck," as known by Sister Lily's statement to Yuno getting a Four-Leaf and the elves' reaction to Litch's) before being touched/corrupted by deep despair and making it accessible to devils and for their whole, true power to awaken when accompanied by a/their physical body (episode 115). Liebe is a devil that had a full physical body but no magic that was sealed into a Five-Leaf grimoire through Licita's magic before it eventually choose Asta as its holder. A devil, a physical body, and a Five-Leaf are the requirements, which we have in a round-about way. A Five-Leaf happens by unusual means and is adaptable; transforming from Four into Five, and allowing another and separate entity to become involved. As a devil, this grimoire was accessible to Liebe to receive and awaken his power by alongside a physical body. However, while he had a body he didn't have the power to reach out and access the grimoire -- until Licita's magic crossed that obstacle and connected them. Now an interesting thing happens here: The powerful and magical tool, the Five-Leaf grimoire capable of awakening power, is present. This mixes (at first) with two separate entities. First, a devil capable of accessing the grimoire's potential to awaken power, though he does not possess any. Second, a dying human who does have magic and also causes magic and life to interconnect and drain (as per my theory). And we've been told magic is special and intrinsic to a single person, meaning a person's magic and lifeforce are connected. This relates to Liebe, Licita, and Asta. We have an innate and adaptable if inactive power of the Five-Leaf, an incoming power that can take a mana/magic-less thing and put it into another that also latches onto and drains life and magic, and an awaiting devil ready to receive and awaken power but now without their physical body (upon being put into the grimoire). This sounds like an entirely new and immense power is primed to be formed and mutated, one that can imbue things with the ability to latch onto life-and-magic and drain (or nullify) it. Sounds an awful lot like Anti-Magic, the swords' capabilities, and Asta's dark form. However, a key part is missing. There is no longer a physical body, which means the process is incomplete. And, if life is drained alongside magic, then a body can't be accessed. And in comes Asta in Episode 1, who is born without magic and can't have his life drained because of it (episode 117). Asta, who is 15 and didn't receive a grimoire. Asta, who had just fallen into deep despair at the words of Chain-Magic Knight Revchi even if he didn't give up and was ready to fight. Asta, who calls to/is called by the devil Liebe's Five-Leaf Clover Grimoire and can provide an accepting, physical body. Asta, who is the third entity to interact with the Five-Leaf. Asta, who was the final, missing piece to completing and creating the Anti-Magic Power. And the rest we know! If you've gotten this far, then thank you for reading and have a great day!
Also you have to think about astas father I feel like lichita manifested some of her magic later in life because it doesnt make sense for her to be astas mother if she could not be around other men unless there is something special about astas father like hes magic less as well or from a special race of people who's magic cant be absorbed
@@neloasta Thanks for pointing that out. We can all theorize about Asta's father: whether he was magicless to, a specific race (like if it was Liebe being a devil that kept him safe and the Anti-Magic was dormant), or if he had a lot of magic power and could thus be around Licita longer (who's to say how fast her magic+life siphoning works?), or like you said maybe her body's magic+life siphoning came later through something like a curse (which was something I hadn't thought of! A very interesting theory, and likely considering the resemblance of Licita's siphoning to Henry of the Black Bulls' curse). It's just that we have literally nothing in canon yet to go off of for Asta's dad. As such, I didn't want to go off down a rabbit hole (I mean, my comment with the the two theories was pretty long by themselves...). With Licita, even though nothing was directly stated, things from her appearance as well as the panel showing her dropping off a basket before meeting Liebe and saying she wouldn't let go this time during the flashback, are strong hints of a connection to her and Asta having some connection. (You could also say her having the Five-Leaf is a hint, but a single book can move a lot over the span of 15 [or less] years.) Regardless, there were strong things to go off of in addition to abstract stuff that can be made into at least somewhat valid theories. Those are the kind I at least try to go for. But again, thanks for your thoughts and constructive criticism, and for reading through my (arduously long) post! ...I hadn't planned on it getting that detailed. 😅
@@jessicagarner8463 no problem you have some solid theories I feel like if she was cursed she would have mentioned it in a flash back but she could have obtained the magic through some sort of weg or forbidden magic ,maybe she obtained her grimoire later in life and obtained that ability?Also maybe she wasn't the only one born with that ability most magic seems to be inherited her parents were probably either killed by magic knights since that ability is dangerous or her magic is a fusion between her parents and the full power could have manifested shortly after becoming pregnant with asta which would go with your asta mutation theory
Yeah, Tabata tends to play around fate and stuff. Like for example, Asta, Yuno and Noelle (3 main characters)'s parents are all been effected by demons (like curses and being killed and stuff) and which affected their life, and it's like the fate for them to face the demons. (I'm so sorry for my extremely bad English and nonsense talking)
Your whole nero discussion was perfect because i felt her statement was read wrong like you stated. But man i see the channel growing almost 20k subs congrats bro
@@JCloudsAnimeTalk can I ask question? First I'm not good in listening english Im just good in reading so I don't really understand what you said, why does lucifero want to take over the body of liebe if he has already dante's body? Pls answer my question
@@Svoo02 It's literally not. Step-siblings become family after their parents re-marry. I don't remember seeing any panel where Licita got hitched with Liebe's dad.
@@hunterdenning6415 You get what he meant. The relationship between you and them don't change in any way. You share no blood, bet share family. Same situation in both names. Although you are correct it really did not matter.
Also a question is how could Lucifer not recognize the anti magic devil when he tried to take over his body 16 years ago? He should have been able to figure out who he might have been just from that fact and the fact he can control all devils below him. He called him low tier, that should have been another clue to himself.
He was magicless at the time but when L. Talked about it he admitted a power even if it’s low tier so.... that’s plot because it’s gonna b the hell of a shock next time asta meet Dante with new form he gonna recognize him 4real
I feel like Lucifero lied because he wants to be seen as powerful and he would have to explain to Dante how he was defeated by a mere human and failed taking over the lowest rank demon. Or Lucifero probably doesn’t see Libe as something he should concerned since Libe is trapped in the grimoire now can’t be controlled by him.
You know what, you’re the first theory black clover youtuber that actually uses logical evidence I’ve seen so far for making theories. Almost every other I’ve seen so far have twisted moments and wordings to fit their theory, completely ignoring the original context of those moments and dialogue
If Liebe didn't have mana or magic and developed anti-magic then it is possible that Asta will also develop something later on. Maybe it will happen when he resurrects, since it would make sense that mana dwells in life so when he develops mana his life force will return to his body and maybe he will get a second grimoire possibly 4 leaf
Gah Damn.....J-Cloud you spittin!!!! I feel as if Licita took her magical powers and Liebe and stored it inside the 5 leaf grimoire, knowing that her magic will be amplified since Liebe is a devil...and in the future, her biological son, Asta will become strong with the grimoire, and Liebe will become strong with her magic attribute. It was as if she called this event way before it happened!!!
Let us not forget the anti magic devil once said to asta he is the closest thing to asta or something like that maybe the anti magic suffers from immnicia or lost memery which means he made promise to asta protect asta and avenge her
Here’s my thing. Licita’s affliction is constantly draining the mana/life force out of anyone who gets near her, right? Which means that Asta’s father (assuming that Licita is actually his mother) would have to have a crazy amount of mana just to tolerate being around her long enough to make a baby. Now...the only people we know of in the series with mana levels that high are royals, nobles and the elves. Which could possible mean that.......
No elf or noble would be able to be near her. 1 touch and your basically gone. If she didnt get it from a curse and someone was able to be near her. It would have to be someone with infinite amount of mana, someone who like asta had no mana, or someone in which countered her absorbing properties.
@@DATRUTH_19 This is why I’m thinking that Lichita might have been cursed and didn’t know about it. Or maybe something happened in between the time of Asta’s conception and his birth. Her “storage magic” is her natural magic. But the draining is way too close to Henry’s curse to be a coincidence.
This is the first video I’ve ever seen of yours (it showed up on my feed) and I loved that intro ! Also, this video was put together so eloquently, it used so many different references that other channels lack
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so since we at looking thru nero's eyes and we don't know how long she was asleep this could have happened 500+ years in past. also if that's the case licita could be asta's ancestor
Asta's mom gave him up because she was afraid she would kill him with her mana absorbing magic. meanwhile, in her belly, since she absorbed mana, asta was born without magic... awesome writing here.
That’s fair enough but then it begs the question about the same stitching on there clothes when they were abandoned at the church. Why is the stitching the same ??
This chapter had answered a lot of questions but there is still one question left? How anti-magic power came into existence? Is it originally from AMD itself or is it born from tremendous negative mana left behind in the 5-leaf by previous owner combined with AMD despair?
i think She could be Asta's Mom or a relative. another note i think all those years later Lucifero either forgot or doesn't remember or doesn't care who liebe is when Dante him Asked who is this devil when Asta was going berserk
I find it hard to believe that Licifero would just forget something that noteworthy happening if it was only a “short” sixteen years. But I guess with everything going on in the Spade Kingdom it would be easy to lose track of something like that when you’re planning an apocalypse.
lucifero probably doesn't remember who he is yet since libe was just a little kid the last time they met and hadn't manifested his anti magic powers yet (we know humans and elfs esp commoners/lower ranked ones will show little or no magic when they are babies/little kids but as they get older they gradually start to manifest more and more of there power until it fully manifests when they get there grimore at around 16 years old and the same most likely applies to demons) or if lucifero does know he doesn't want to tell dante that a random village girl handed him his ass and foiled his old plan to get a body.
@@JCloudsAnimeTalk I also wonder how she could have a child if everything near dies. I think it's possible for it not to effect something with no mana like that purple thing zagrid made with his word magic but not sure about that
The thing is why y'all think the baby is manaless the baby could've had low mana and after yrs asta had sudden mutation and thus being manaless or the baby Mana was low and as generations pass their mana was even lower thus asta no mana
@@michaelovalle yes but we don't if the baby was without Mana ,and then there's question of how she even got pregnant , it's not like she gonna suck it all up in once it will vary to person
This chapter only answer about liebe for sure....and yeah timeline is the problem is this flashback happen 500 years ago or 17 years ago And asta give him a hug please.
Just realized the 500 year statement mostly likely doesn’t add up because Nero said she woke up in the day of new era of magic knights. When she woke up she didn’t know where the grimoire was until she saw Asta. It’s either a misconception or a error on tabata this isn’t the first time he kinda messed up. The only thing left that doesn’t make sense is to how why is Lucifero messing with AMD to find a way knowning he was manaless? He was contracted with Dante so wouldn’t it be better to continue the plan with him? I guess this can all be better explained if tabata reveals more about how devil possession works and why Lucifero planned to used AMD. We know when a devil is contracted with a human they can appear for a limited time so it’s mysterious as to what Lucifero needed amd for when he was useless
@@NarutoUzumaki-ko2te Lucifero wanted to use liebe because he can control and exicist in the human world. He is not limited to dante as he still lives in the underworld and dante jusr borrows his power. He can basically do what he wants
@@ggkg3197 It would make sense if the reason he wanted to use AMD or Liebe is because he only gets limited time to appear with Dante. With Liebe he could control him regardless
Something to take into account with Licita dropping off Asta seemingly being off or not what it seems... Asta wasn't just born, he had a set of hair and was big. Meaning that he was with her for some time. Tabata showcased her magic with the snake and how she killed it seemingly instantly, but most importantly that she STEALS mana and life. Asta has been said to have an abnormal body numerous times. Liebe has no magic/mana. Her magic was only seen again once Asta went into his Black form, correct? Liebe knows about Licita's magic and Tabata has already established that Liebe likes to exaggerate. What if it's really not Anti-Magic, but stealing magic itself. Black Asta has been doing variants of several others' magic abilities and techniques. All from whom that have large mana pool...
I think there needs to be a proper explanation as to how Licita managed to obtain that five-leaf griamore. Finding it randomly seems like such a coincidence and if that was really the case, I feel like the entire story wouldn't have enough depth.
@@pedroolmos8286 maybe not if ur drained of all of it before ur even born, i remember some earlier black clover arc having these guys who stole magic from kids and something about how the kids might never get their magic back.
My only problem with Licita bing Asta’s mother is that her magic absorbs mana like Henry. Asta is the only person that can be around Henry because he has no mana, so the same rules should apply if he is her son. If Asta has no magic, like Liebe, she shouldn’t have had to abandon him.
@@akilmanwaring7767 what do you mean ‘’you guys...’’ lol jk jk. Even so if Asta doesn’t have any mana, then it should be no different then with Liebe. Also, then how does that magic get passed down to Liebe in the form of anti magic? They’re not related by blood and he has no mana. So how did a devil with no magic, the same as Asta come to have her power? Whether through her body or magic assigned to her, there is still a gap there in the explanation. Like I said in my other post, I just hope we get more answers and I’m really excited to see where Tabata takes this!
@@jaden_o7981 along with what @ChristopherRoscoe mentioned. As J-Cloud pointed out in the video, Asta has been shown doing the same thing and withering away the plants. Even if you want to say this is the devils magic (which I’m still not 100% clear on how Licita’s magic ‘’transferred’’ to Liebe and Litch’s Sword Magic grimoire, since Liebe had no mana/magic before) Asta’s body structure magically still has not changed. So his life force should still be getting drained while using the devils powers as well. I’m really hoping this all gets cleared up and I’m just speculating. I am just personally leaning on the idea that this is an ancestor and Asta’s mutation is a recessive gene from the lineage. That and the fact that Liebe said it’s been forever since he was in the human world. I think it would make the most sense if this is a descendant of Licht and Tetia’s child, who both were stated to be alive after Zagred’s invasion of the elves. I mean the name is literally just a combination of the two. Coincidence, I think not! meme lol That could help clear up the timeline issues between what Nero, Liebe, and what has been portrayed in the story so far. This is one of the biggest reveals in BC and I don’t think Tabata would be slipping on timeline details on something so important in Asta/Liebe’s backstory. But hey, we’ll just have to wait and see!
I think when Asta and Liebe finally make an official contract they will see each other’s memories and Liebe will see Asta looking at Licita as she leaves him at the church and Asta will see his mom for the first real time
Even without mana, asta is still op than anyone else because the fact that he is the only one and the only one can use the anti magic swords..the anti magic swords are currently astas plot armor and he is very op and actually he can beat everyone else with just a sword..so i guess he is more more too op if he has magic..asta is definitely a God to them if he can use both anti magic and magic at the same time even julius,lumiere,licht,the dark triads and their devils cant defeat him if that happens . Also i think this will happen but right now, as the main character, asta really need a weakness and that weakness is for him without having a mana besides its completely boring if that happens too early. Hes too op for now and if he gets more op, he can defeat anyone without everyones help
If you think about it, the only way Licita would've had a child is if a mutation happened that stopped her child from having magic, since she would be draining the child of both the magic and lifeforce would've killed the child while it was still in her womb
Great video J I got one question that on my mind since this chapter does Liebe knows that Asta is related to Licita or are they pulling a Dramatic irony at the moment
Lucifero may not be the strongest devil regarding the statement from Liebe. When Lucifero is controlling him he stated he was one of the highest ranks. This implies there are other devils stronger than him
watch there be a demon god thats aboe lucifero named satano since we know the idea of a demon god is possible as the forbidden spell licht used to transform into a demon was called demon god transformation and was stated to be the highest tier of forbidden/weg magic by licht, also other anime like deil is a part timer and blue exorcist split lucifer and satan into 2 separate characters with satan being the higher ranked and superior to lucifer so i could see tabata doing the same.
After this chapter im pretty sure that's Asta mother everything literally adds up to her looking like him, the basket, the dialogue, and Asta with no mana when he was a baby and when secre explained what she did, people must've read it wrong since it was written that way so yeah great video.
Asta not having mana makes sense now. What I don't get now is how a devil, a race with extremely high magic power (higher than the elves) is born with no mana at all. I need that explained tabata lol
You know what is eating me about this whole thing? Ok so liebe was born with out magic... ok ok, how did he gain anti magic? Her mother? I don't know maaaaan
So Luchita has two different magic types or is she cursed? Her magic type was to put things with no mana into things. Then she also absorbs life force and mana. Henry also is the same except we know he’s cursed. Just sumn to think about
Wow. I have watch several videos explaining the timeline, and Nero’s statement of her watching over the grimoire and no one has explained it better, and more detailed than you. So, thank you for that. Keep up with the great work. I think Licita is Asta’s mom. I think Nero watch over the grimoire most of the time just like you explained at the beginning. Also, maybe she was watching the whole time but was robbed of her human consciousnes for most of the time “asleep”. Her “bird-self” might have followed the grimoire, but was not actually her, thus “asleep”. Either way, I’m sure Tabata will address this.
Thank you man! Btw i agree with that & that could be the case that she was awake but her consciousness was elsewhere for 500 years but who knows really haha
Well if you think about it, Licita's magic is uncontrollable and doesn't really have an "off switch." That means Asta was exposed to it as a fetus pretty much constantly so... it's likely his mana defect was a natural evolution to survive in his mother's womb.
I am having doubts that this is astas mother because some people say that she probably accidently took away mana when he was born but if she did then the mana would come back and we do see her put a basket in front of a church but I am not sure if it is asta and if asta was really her child then he would at least have a little bit of mana she probably is an ancestor of asta
the only thing on my mind is if Lucifero was taking over Liebe's body so he could search for a way to manifest into the human world, and Licita places Asta at Hage village took place before that and it happened on the same day that Yuno was placed there and Yuno was placed there because the dark triad took over the spade kingdom and was killing the royalty there, then wouldn't that mean Lucifero already had a contract with Dante at the time he was taking control over Liebe's body. unless the dark triad took control over the spade kingdom without Dante having his devil powers yet but I don't think that's likely. anyways why would Lucifero try to take over Liebe when he already had a contract with Dante at the time is what I'm asking? and if I'm getting any of my facts wrong then please feel free to correct me so I understand better, thank you.
I like this theory. When i saw the episode, i originally thought Liebe was Asta. Like his love for his adoptive mother gave him a sense of belonging and to save him from Lucifero, he was sealed away into or he possessed a child that died during birth to give it a chance of a new life. But it makes sense that the interactions with Lucifero and Lichita caused an unnatural birth of Asta and that her own powers would drain any magic Asta would have had naturally while being born. Either way i loved Liebe and Lichita's back story. Asta is awesome.
Licita finding the grimoire makes a lot more sense if it was soon after the demon attack. It had probably just been thrown somewhere in the forest during the fight. With Licita being a person just wandering around that forest all of the time, it makes perfect sense that she stumbled upon it. Nero probably didn’t find it and hide it until after the events of the flashback.
1. Asta's mother went to hage village to leave Asta there. 2. She found the five leaf clover there and brought that with her. Nero might have seen her and followed her but she is only a bird and of course she couldn't do anything. Also, the grimoire didn't choose Asta's mother; she just found it and took it with her. 3. Asta's mom met with the AMD and showed him the clover that she found recently. 4. Lucifero appears and AMD gets sealed inside the grimore. 5. Nero takes the grimore and returns it back to the cave in Hage village. Nero did looked after the grimore for 500 years. Come on, its 500 fuckin' years and she doesn't have to mention every single moment when the grimore was out of her sight. There might also have been other instances when people came and took the grimore with them in the past 500 years. Nero probably took care of that too.
@@farolddatrinidade6149 the AMD probably has anti magic from the start but since the anti magic isn't magic the demons didn't detect it like asta even though he has anti magic flowing through his body,they are still saying this no magic brat.
Hey bro, I love your predictions and explanations, it makes sense. The episode 170 already released and I watched it. Your prediction is absolute. I love it.
Litchia got killed by Lucifero and when she was about to die she sealed some of her absorbing magic and some of Lucifero magic into the Gilmore also seals Liebe into the Gilmore. Also that’s why one of Asta’s swords were able to drain opponents magic. And Litchia had give away Asta because she was afraid that, she will drain Asta’s magic away. But she did because she was pregnant and she was already draining his magic since he was in her stomach. But the one thing I don’t get is who’s ASTAS father. And like the first wizard king said “ I got to meet my descendants”, was he referring to Asta or Yuno?
I think your theory is one of the few that solved the timeline issue and are 99% chance to be true, maybe Secre meant something else when she said she watch it over.
Remember, First chapter Asta and yuno dropped in church in the same day in same kind of basket wearing same kind of clothes and writing name in the same place with same writing styles and from this chapter licita is citizen of clover kingdom ( magic knights and five leaf clover grimmore) if licita dropped Asta in the church. Then, it's insane level of coincidence. From I know in animes coincidence happen very less and another question who is asta's father if licita has a magic that steals mana and life force what kind of guy get close to her. This chapter creates lots of confusion.
I have a question did the anti magic devil know Asta was possibly his brother because remember when he told him that he was the closest person too him which may state that he he knew they were like brothers but didn’t tell him
Licita left ASTA in the church so that his she couldn't absorb Asta's mana Because ASTA is Licita's son and he was in her belly for Nine months that's why whenever his mana started manifesting , it was absorbed by Licita unintentionally
But it still doesn't make sense for licita to leave asta because he had no magic powers. Licita was able to tell and take care of liebe because he didn't have any magic. I think asta might had a little magic left but his body used it to allow him to increase his normal physical strength
@@shane.309 but you don't get what I'm saying. If asta was born with no magic then licita would've stayed with him because she won't be able to absorb his magic, that's why she could stay with liebe because he had no magic.
Still not convinced that she is Asta's mother. to say that there is a possibility that nero woke up during Asta's timeline doesnt make sense just because there is an inconsistency of looking after 500 years and not being awake for some of those years. I mean if Nero is aware that shes been asleep for more than 450 years she wouldnt say shes been looking after the book for 500 years thats too much of a claim than her being asleep for 20 - 30 years of that 500 years. Another thing is, if this timeline is same with Asta, the AMD couldnt ba that strong right away to assist him on his fight. On chapter 1, it gave me the impression that the AMD is stronger and more capable than that helpless kid who was recently been stored in the book. It would have made more sense if the book has been used before giving the AMD some time to develop and maybe give sense why the 2 swords were scattered. I guess we just have to wait to find out I wonder though how was she able to carry that child in her womb if she can steal life force? And how was it able to survive being with her while carrying it to that place where she left the baby? Obviously she had to spend time with the baby for sometime before she was able to live him there and given how fast her condition was able to affect the snake, the baby shoudnt have had the chance to be near her for too long. hahaha now im overthinking this too much I hate you tabata lol
personally i think that he was born in a village that was loved by mana and he got drained then his parents hid him and sent him to hage village where no one would expect him to be there but idk
Is it also possible that asta's mana has been stored to that small jar? Then when the times come the jar will open then asta's insane mana pool will unleash.
Actually, we do have reason to think that Nero was aware for a huge chunk of time, but that same reason means she would be away from the grimoire for stretches of time. That reason is that Nero knew the location of magic stones and Licht’s sword. Clearly Nero was there and conscious when those things were being hid.
Now I'm REALLY curious who is Asta's dad, knowing all the details about Licita...I have never been this invested in anime or manga before except maybe DBZ as a kid, but still
I think it makes sense...If nero was sleeping for the entire 500 years ,it would make sense why she never brought up tetia and the fact that she might have survived because even if she did,after 500 years she would have passed away anyways... Also the fact that nero didn't had the grimoire and asta got it from the grimoire tower also fits now..
I don’t think is a theory...... I feel the twist here is that asta and liebe are brothers not by blood but licita real blood son and adoptive son They’re reflection of each other Coming up with ways to get stronger merging with each other
My question is, she found a five leaf grimoire , but the devil wasn't sealed in it yet, also asta grows another set of horns when he goes in black form. is there another devil residing in that grimoire?
We are all assuming that Lichita died. Her death wasnt shown, just that she was severely injured. My theory is that Nero knew Lichita and that she had the 5 leaf. Nero may have been watching.over Asta his whole life knowing that he will end up with AMD and the 5 leaf because Lichita asked her to. It's possible Lichita is still alive, Nero knows this and isnt saying anything because that will come I to play much later
Hum.... interesting. It may or may not be. I wonder why Licht’s grimoire chose Asta. We know that Grimoire is very related to the soul.... If you know something please tell me. Thank you and sorry for my English I am French.
@@beingrandomisfun6927 actually licht was the first user of the book then it sat near or on top of the demon skull until licita found it and now ribe/asta are its current owners and users.
@@CrimsonReapa that's what i said, if we go by the theory that litica is asta's mother than liebe and asta both are her sons so no matter who it belongs to it's her son's grimoire, Litch was the former owner and during the elf arc he stated the grimoire no longer belonged to him so i didn't mention him.
Nero/secre wouldnt have know about the grimware (or however it is spelled ) cause since lachita can obsorbe mana and life force secre wouldnt be able to get close and not able to keep track of it
It makes more sense that she woke up around the start of the series if not then nero is pretty much immortal for living over 500 years it would more sense that her sleep was like cryosleep preserving her body and then waking up a year or 2 before asta got the grimoire
When asta fights the anti magic devil, can he use Yami's Katana? Since that's the only one that was not originally shrouded in Anti- magic. Great video BTW!!!
Things doesn't add up such as why the demon dweller and demon destroyer swords were not in the grimoire but were already rustys. Also why Lucifero would took Liebe body while he already have Dante makes no sense too.
It doesn’t add up if Nero already said she fell asleep and many years passed between those 500 years she watched the grimoire for 500 years if the battle took place 500 years ago. You can’t round that up to 500 if she was sleep between those years. That’s a plot hole because that’s not how math works, and like I explained in the video Lucifero was using Liebe I don’t believe he could take over his body to manifest, the underworld gate needs to be open
@Naruto Uzumaki Lucifero wanted to use liebe because he can control and exicist in the human world. He is not limited to dante as he still lives in the underworld and dante jusr borrows his power. He can basically do what he wants
So, Asta inherited the Five Leaf Grimoire and he basically had it the entire time waiting for him at the right moment to come into the world. Though the question is: did Licht when he was in William Vangeance recognize there was a devil in it when he saw it? Remember, in the Episode of the Magic Knights Exam, he said in the Episode "That Grimoire..." as if he could recognize something with it. Licht in William Vangeance knew there was a devil hidden within it. That is the first moment we know something was up with the Grimoire. Also, of you take a look at the writing in the Five Leaf Grimoire, it is different than the other Grimoires, and that is for a reason. Asta had inherited a Grimoire is what I am getting at. So Asta had a Grimoire the entire time, even before Yuno most likely, but I could be wrong.
Lmk what you guys think after listening to this theory, could this be Asta’s mom, his ancestor, or Nero just can’t count lol 🤔
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@@丂ん尺ののム丂乇刀り乇り it’s in the description
I wanna see this chapter in the anime
Love your videos man keep it up
I think your theory is correct but I’d go the route that the only reason why asta is alive right now is because he had no mana, not because his mom took his mana. If he had mana he probably would’ve been killed while still developing in his mother. Also who the hell is his dad😳 like how is it even possible to do anything with this girl when she’s literally killing you slowly? So that’s why I think she is cursed because her magic lets her seal magic lacking things in other things. The part about stealing life force and magic could be a curse that was placed on her after she got pregnant by astas dad, then he either left or died because of it.
You know its pretty sad that Lichita had to give up Asta if she didn't have her condition she would have been an awesome mom and Asta would have had a normal happy life maybe she would have raised Asta and Liebe together that would have been cool to see.
Nah anti magic is more awesome
Then we won't have black Clover anime
@@sukaikantw hate to break the news to you
If she had known that Asta had no mana, she'd have known that she didn't need to give him up at all. Asta's even immune to his life being drained, as proven in the reincarnation arc when that purple stuff Zagred summoned did _nothing_ to Asta.
Bruh! if that would have had happened earlier than this might not be shown in this anime so do not conclude yourself ... writer is awesome
She must be proud of both of son working together lol
Ike
Not going the amd look cute tho
We don't know that yet tho 😒
Whhhoo
@Abdirahman Omar he is talking about astas devil
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*Long, developed theory below:*
I think that Licita's body can only suck magic and lifeforce from something that has magic/mana in the first place. Otherwise the plants around her and her house would always be wilting and dying, and the dragonfly on Liebe's tail we saw her leaning close to in the flashback would have dropped dead.
Now that in mind, what about the snake that dropped dead at Licita's feet during her introduction to Liebe? Well, we saw in episodes 8 and 9 of Season 1 that some animals like the fire boars have magic power of their own. So, it stands to reason and lines up with this theory that the "poison snake" had some magic and was therefore supsectable to Licita's magic+life draining while the dragonfly from before and plants around her house weren't.
Now assuming Licita is Asta's mother and keeping this theory in mind: I believe that Asta's genetic mutation that kept "the mana from dwelling within him" (quote from episode 63) is what allowed him to be born in the first place. If he had been in danger of his lifeforce being sucked away, it would have have when he was conceived and still in the womb. So, this mutation of rejecting magic/mana was the way his body "somehow, it found a way to survive" (quote from episode 6). Without his lifeforce being interwoven with a personal affinity to magic, his lifeforce was protected from being siphoned away and Asta was able to live, develop, and ultimately be born.
As for why Licita gave Asta up to the church at Hage? I believe the answer is that she didn't want to sentence him to a life stuck with only her for company. Even though it would be hard for her magicless boy (as she would know he was), he could have a life among other people. He didn't have to live a life of seclusion like she had been forced to. So, out of her immense love for her little boy, she let Asta go: Dropping him off in the Forsaken Realm village of Hage, where his magiclessness could be explained away by the general low level of magic in people in that area. And at the church were he would be accepted and raised despite that.
Later, when she stumbled upon Liebe, Licita would have known from her body's lack of pulling magic+life from him that it was safe for her to approach and extend a helping hand. Then -- whether it was his likeness to her baby boy (in appearance and lack of magic), the fact that as a devil he would be a permeant outcast to society like herself, or a combination of the two and her caring nature -- Licita extended the offer to Liebe to "stay here and be her kid" where it would only be a benefit to them both. And indeed it was a blessing for both of them. Right up to the event where Lucifero hijacked Liebe and Licita sacrificed herself to save her foster son and preserve his freedom from Lucifero by putting him inside the Five-Leaf Grimoire she had found.
Now, jumping to a related topic: How did the Anti-Magic manifestation even come about, when both Liebe (the devil the power supposedly springs from) and Asta (the wielder of said power) are specifically called being *without magic* (not having the opposite of it, simply a lack of it). I think it comes from a combination of four factors: the fact that it was a Five-Leaf Clover Grimoire that Licita's magic sealed Liebe into, that Liebe is a magicless devil, Licita's magic and body's mutation, as well as Asta's mutation and the circumstances before he got his grimoire.
Now a Five-Leaf grimoire is a grimoire that was once a Four-Leaf (and thus innately very magically powerful with a dash of "good luck," as known by Sister Lily's statement to Yuno getting a Four-Leaf and the elves' reaction to Litch's) before being touched/corrupted by deep despair and making it accessible to devils and for their whole, true power to awaken when accompanied by a/their physical body (episode 115). Liebe is a devil that had a full physical body but no magic that was sealed into a Five-Leaf grimoire through Licita's magic before it eventually choose Asta as its holder.
A devil, a physical body, and a Five-Leaf are the requirements, which we have in a round-about way. A Five-Leaf happens by unusual means and is adaptable; transforming from Four into Five, and allowing another and separate entity to become involved. As a devil, this grimoire was accessible to Liebe to receive and awaken his power by alongside a physical body. However, while he had a body he didn't have the power to reach out and access the grimoire -- until Licita's magic crossed that obstacle and connected them.
Now an interesting thing happens here: The powerful and magical tool, the Five-Leaf grimoire capable of awakening power, is present. This mixes (at first) with two separate entities. First, a devil capable of accessing the grimoire's potential to awaken power, though he does not possess any. Second, a dying human who does have magic and also causes magic and life to interconnect and drain (as per my theory). And we've been told magic is special and intrinsic to a single person, meaning a person's magic and lifeforce are connected. This relates to Liebe, Licita, and Asta.
We have an innate and adaptable if inactive power of the Five-Leaf, an incoming power that can take a mana/magic-less thing and put it into another that also latches onto and drains life and magic, and an awaiting devil ready to receive and awaken power but now without their physical body (upon being put into the grimoire). This sounds like an entirely new and immense power is primed to be formed and mutated, one that can imbue things with the ability to latch onto life-and-magic and drain (or nullify) it. Sounds an awful lot like Anti-Magic, the swords' capabilities, and Asta's dark form. However, a key part is missing. There is no longer a physical body, which means the process is incomplete. And, if life is drained alongside magic, then a body can't be accessed.
And in comes Asta in Episode 1, who is born without magic and can't have his life drained because of it (episode 117). Asta, who is 15 and didn't receive a grimoire. Asta, who had just fallen into deep despair at the words of Chain-Magic Knight Revchi even if he didn't give up and was ready to fight. Asta, who calls to/is called by the devil Liebe's Five-Leaf Clover Grimoire and can provide an accepting, physical body. Asta, who is the third entity to interact with the Five-Leaf. Asta, who was the final, missing piece to completing and creating the Anti-Magic Power.
And the rest we know!
If you've gotten this far, then thank you for reading and have a great day!
Also you have to think about astas father I feel like lichita manifested some of her magic later in life because it doesnt make sense for her to be astas mother if she could not be around other men unless there is something special about astas father like hes magic less as well or from a special race of people who's magic cant be absorbed
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@@neloasta Thanks for pointing that out. We can all theorize about Asta's father: whether he was magicless to, a specific race (like if it was Liebe being a devil that kept him safe and the Anti-Magic was dormant), or if he had a lot of magic power and could thus be around Licita longer (who's to say how fast her magic+life siphoning works?), or like you said maybe her body's magic+life siphoning came later through something like a curse (which was something I hadn't thought of! A very interesting theory, and likely considering the resemblance of Licita's siphoning to Henry of the Black Bulls' curse).
It's just that we have literally nothing in canon yet to go off of for Asta's dad. As such, I didn't want to go off down a rabbit hole (I mean, my comment with the the two theories was pretty long by themselves...). With Licita, even though nothing was directly stated, things from her appearance as well as the panel showing her dropping off a basket before meeting Liebe and saying she wouldn't let go this time during the flashback, are strong hints of a connection to her and Asta having some connection. (You could also say her having the Five-Leaf is a hint, but a single book can move a lot over the span of 15 [or less] years.) Regardless, there were strong things to go off of in addition to abstract stuff that can be made into at least somewhat valid theories. Those are the kind I at least try to go for.
But again, thanks for your thoughts and constructive criticism, and for reading through my (arduously long) post! ...I hadn't planned on it getting that detailed. 😅
@@jessicagarner8463 no problem you have some solid theories I feel like if she was cursed she would have mentioned it in a flash back but she could have obtained the magic through some sort of weg or forbidden magic ,maybe she obtained her grimoire later in life and obtained that ability?Also maybe she wasn't the only one born with that ability most magic seems to be inherited her parents were probably either killed by magic knights since that ability is dangerous or her magic is a fusion between her parents and the full power could have manifested shortly after becoming pregnant with asta which would go with your asta mutation theory
And simple fact as to how lichita knew how to cook and speak and do things for herself makes me think she never had her full powers all her life
So...Asta is using his mother’s power through his adopted devil brother? Sad.
His u mean
I think you mean his
Huh???
Wot
That sentence was confusing to read
If this theory is true. Then AMD libe and him are brothers who were fated to meet
Whats AMD?
@@farishakim6759 anti magic demon
Yeah, Tabata tends to play around fate and stuff.
Like for example, Asta, Yuno and Noelle (3 main characters)'s parents are all been effected by demons (like curses and being killed and stuff) and which affected their life, and it's like the fate for them to face the demons.
(I'm so sorry for my extremely bad English and nonsense talking)
Imagine the whole reason the bc community is in disarray is because we miss read a panel
Yea that panel is very controversial right now haha
Its pretty obvious to me tho
Your whole nero discussion was perfect because i felt her statement was read wrong like you stated. But man i see the channel growing almost 20k subs congrats bro
Thanks bro!
@@JCloudsAnimeTalk 💙
@@JCloudsAnimeTalk can I ask question? First I'm not good in listening english Im just good in reading so I don't really understand what you said, why does lucifero want to take over the body of liebe if he has already dante's body? Pls answer my question
I hope licita is asta mother that would make asta and liebe foster brothers making them having a connection towards licita
It’s gots to be his mother
They won't be step brothers, he'd be more like an adopted brother
@@michaelovalle Literally the same thing
@@Svoo02 It's literally not. Step-siblings become family after their parents re-marry. I don't remember seeing any panel where Licita got hitched with Liebe's dad.
@@hunterdenning6415 You get what he meant. The relationship between you and them don't change in any way. You share no blood, bet share family. Same situation in both names. Although you are correct it really did not matter.
Also a question is how could Lucifer not recognize the anti magic devil when he tried to take over his body 16 years ago? He should have been able to figure out who he might have been just from that fact and the fact he can control all devils below him. He called him low tier, that should have been another clue to himself.
He was magicless at the time but when L. Talked about it he admitted a power even if it’s low tier so.... that’s plot because it’s gonna b the hell of a shock next time asta meet Dante with new form he gonna recognize him 4real
I feel like Lucifero lied because he wants to be seen as powerful and he would have to explain to Dante how he was defeated by a mere human and failed taking over the lowest rank demon. Or Lucifero probably doesn’t see Libe as something he should concerned since Libe is trapped in the grimoire now can’t be controlled by him.
Im pretty sure Anti magic demon is easily forgotten by other demons. Speculation
At the the time he was magcilcelless but when liebe got sealed in the five leaf grimore he gained the anti magic
You know what, you’re the first theory black clover youtuber that actually uses logical evidence I’ve seen so far for making theories. Almost every other I’ve seen so far have twisted moments and wordings to fit their theory, completely ignoring the original context of those moments and dialogue
I have a theory that J stops himself from laughing because he sounds like a devil🤔 if he continues it might sound like hehekeekeke. A theory
Lol 😂
If Liebe didn't have mana or magic and developed anti-magic then it is possible that Asta will also develop something later on. Maybe it will happen when he resurrects, since it would make sense that mana dwells in life so when he develops mana his life force will return to his body and maybe he will get a second grimoire possibly 4 leaf
Gah Damn.....J-Cloud you spittin!!!! I feel as if Licita took her magical powers and Liebe and stored it inside the 5 leaf grimoire, knowing that her magic will be amplified since Liebe is a devil...and in the future, her biological son, Asta will become strong with the grimoire, and Liebe will become strong with her magic attribute.
It was as if she called this event way before it happened!!!
If it’s all true she’s the real MVP of the series haha
@@JCloudsAnimeTalk On Gawd bro!!!!!
One question I have is that if people were chasing down leibe including the magic knights... how come the clover kingdom wasn't aware of devils?
Let us not forget the anti magic devil once said to asta he is the closest thing to asta or something like that maybe the anti magic suffers from immnicia or lost memery which means he made promise to asta protect asta and avenge her
Nero was probably watching after Yuno's magic stone before she found Asta with the grimoire
Here’s my thing. Licita’s affliction is constantly draining the mana/life force out of anyone who gets near her, right? Which means that Asta’s father (assuming that Licita is actually his mother) would have to have a crazy amount of mana just to tolerate being around her long enough to make a baby. Now...the only people we know of in the series with mana levels that high are royals, nobles and the elves.
Which could possible mean that.......
Or a devil
No elf or noble would be able to be near her. 1 touch and your basically gone. If she didnt get it from a curse and someone was able to be near her. It would have to be someone with infinite amount of mana, someone who like asta had no mana, or someone in which countered her absorbing properties.
@@DATRUTH_19 This is why I’m thinking that Lichita might have been cursed and didn’t know about it. Or maybe something happened in between the time of Asta’s conception and his birth. Her “storage magic” is her natural magic. But the draining is way too close to Henry’s curse to be a coincidence.
@@Akakaze22 hell yea i believe she was cursed to unless she had a child with a god or some shit 😂😂
If she really is asta's mother, then probably asta's dad might be a supernatural being to withstand the ability of hers
This is the first video I’ve ever seen of yours (it showed up on my feed) and I loved that intro ! Also, this video was put together so eloquently, it used so many different references that other channels lack
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the wording is definitely weird. i think it says she was asleep for a certain amount of time and she watched over it for 500 years
It still wouldn’t add up to 500 years if she said she fell asleep if licht died 500 years ago. That means year was cut off, you can’t round it to 500
so since we at looking thru nero's eyes and we don't know how long she was asleep this could have happened 500+ years in past. also if that's the case licita could be asta's ancestor
Asta's mom gave him up because she was afraid she would kill him with her mana absorbing magic. meanwhile, in her belly, since she absorbed mana, asta was born without magic... awesome writing here.
That’s fair enough but then it begs the question about the same stitching on there clothes when they were abandoned at the church. Why is the stitching the same ??
That was anime only
@@JCloudsAnimeTalk oh shit I wonder if the anime will be able to tie both narratives together or create a new one
This chapter had answered a lot of questions but there is still one question left? How anti-magic power came into existence? Is it originally from AMD itself or is it born from tremendous negative mana left behind in the 5-leaf by previous owner combined with AMD despair?
She has to be proud of her kids but distraught with everything that is happening and ribe’s pain of him being alone
Licitas power is like henry when you got closer but licita steals a life also
i think She could be Asta's Mom or a relative. another note i think all those years later Lucifero either forgot or doesn't remember or doesn't care who liebe is when Dante him Asked who is this devil when Asta was going berserk
i just think he forgot
I find it hard to believe that Licifero would just forget something that noteworthy happening if it was only a “short” sixteen years. But I guess with everything going on in the Spade Kingdom it would be easy to lose track of something like that when you’re planning an apocalypse.
lucifero probably doesn't remember who he is yet since libe was just a little kid the last time they met and hadn't manifested his anti magic powers yet (we know humans and elfs esp commoners/lower ranked ones will show little or no magic when they are babies/little kids but as they get older they gradually start to manifest more and more of there power until it fully manifests when they get there grimore at around 16 years old and the same most likely applies to demons) or if lucifero does know he doesn't want to tell dante that a random village girl handed him his ass and foiled his old plan to get a body.
If she is his ancestor then wouldn't there be more people like asta and have no magic
Exactly, unless asta comes from a clan from people that have no mana.
@@JCloudsAnimeTalk I also wonder how she could have a child if everything near dies. I think it's possible for it not to effect something with no mana like that purple thing zagrid made with his word magic but not sure about that
The thing is why y'all think the baby is manaless the baby could've had low mana and after yrs asta had sudden mutation and thus being manaless or the baby Mana was low and as generations pass their mana was even lower thus asta no mana
@@kingrp9587 but the ladies magic takes mana and life energy I think
@@michaelovalle yes but we don't if the baby was without Mana ,and then there's question of how she even got pregnant , it's not like she gonna suck it all up in once it will vary to person
This chapter only answer about liebe for sure....and yeah timeline is the problem is this flashback happen 500 years ago or 17 years ago
And asta give him a hug please.
It wouldn’t make sense 500 years ago because the grimoire is a 5 leaf, Licht would’ve been still alive
Just realized the 500 year statement mostly likely doesn’t add up because Nero said she woke up in the day of new era of magic knights. When she woke up she didn’t know where the grimoire was until she saw Asta. It’s either a misconception or a error on tabata this isn’t the first time he kinda messed up.
The only thing left that doesn’t make sense is to how why is Lucifero messing with AMD to find a way knowning he was manaless? He was contracted with Dante so wouldn’t it be better to continue the plan with him? I guess this can all be better explained if tabata reveals more about how devil possession works and why Lucifero planned to used AMD. We know when a devil is contracted with a human they can appear for a limited time so it’s mysterious as to what Lucifero needed amd for when he was useless
@@NarutoUzumaki-ko2te Lucifero wanted to use liebe because he can control and exicist in the human world. He is not limited to dante as he still lives in the underworld and dante jusr borrows his power. He can basically do what he wants
@@ggkg3197 It would make sense if the reason he wanted to use AMD or Liebe is because he only gets limited time to appear with Dante. With Liebe he could control him regardless
@@JCloudsAnimeTalk asta's is not the only 5 leaf grimoire tho
Something to take into account with Licita dropping off Asta seemingly being off or not what it seems... Asta wasn't just born, he had a set of hair and was big. Meaning that he was with her for some time. Tabata showcased her magic with the snake and how she killed it seemingly instantly, but most importantly that she STEALS mana and life. Asta has been said to have an abnormal body numerous times. Liebe has no magic/mana. Her magic was only seen again once Asta went into his Black form, correct? Liebe knows about Licita's magic and Tabata has already established that Liebe likes to exaggerate. What if it's really not Anti-Magic, but stealing magic itself. Black Asta has been doing variants of several others' magic abilities and techniques. All from whom that have large mana pool...
I think there needs to be a proper explanation as to how Licita managed to obtain that five-leaf griamore. Finding it randomly seems like such a coincidence and if that was really the case, I feel like the entire story wouldn't have enough depth.
Correct true. And why Licht’s grimoire chose Asta. The grimoire is very related to the soul as we know it. I wonder why?
I was thinking about that too, that she took Astas magic without meaning to.
But if you have with mana you can get it back, it’s just depleted it can come back. Doesn’t make sense
@@pedroolmos8286 maybe not if ur drained of all of it before ur even born, i remember some earlier black clover arc having these guys who stole magic from kids and something about how the kids might never get their magic back.
@@King-zp3il "might"
After finishing the anime, I pieced it all together and I'm glad I was correct. Thanks for the insightful video
My only problem with Licita bing Asta’s mother is that her magic absorbs mana like Henry. Asta is the only person that can be around Henry because he has no mana, so the same rules should apply if he is her son. If Asta has no magic, like Liebe, she shouldn’t have had to abandon him.
Her magic doesn't absorb...her body does that! her magic basically seals and unseals things with no mana!
I know you guys been mixing that up alot :)
Also she doesn't only absorbs people mana she also absorbs people life force so Asta couldn't stay with her or he would die
@@jaden_o7981 yeah but remember when Zagreds life/Mana stealing creatures touched Asta and had no effect? I think that only solidifies Jake's point.
@@akilmanwaring7767 what do you mean ‘’you guys...’’ lol jk jk. Even so if Asta doesn’t have any mana, then it should be no different then with Liebe. Also, then how does that magic get passed down to Liebe in the form of anti magic? They’re not related by blood and he has no mana. So how did a devil with no magic, the same as Asta come to have her power? Whether through her body or magic assigned to her, there is still a gap there in the explanation. Like I said in my other post, I just hope we get more answers and I’m really excited to see where Tabata takes this!
@@jaden_o7981 along with what @ChristopherRoscoe mentioned. As J-Cloud pointed out in the video, Asta has been shown doing the same thing and withering away the plants. Even if you want to say this is the devils magic (which I’m still not 100% clear on how Licita’s magic ‘’transferred’’ to Liebe and Litch’s Sword Magic grimoire, since Liebe had no mana/magic before) Asta’s body structure magically still has not changed. So his life force should still be getting drained while using the devils powers as well. I’m really hoping this all gets cleared up and I’m just speculating.
I am just personally leaning on the idea that this is an ancestor and Asta’s mutation is a recessive gene from the lineage. That and the fact that Liebe said it’s been forever since he was in the human world. I think it would make the most sense if this is a descendant of Licht and Tetia’s child, who both were stated to be alive after Zagred’s invasion of the elves. I mean the name is literally just a combination of the two. Coincidence, I think not! meme lol
That could help clear up the timeline issues between what Nero, Liebe, and what has been portrayed in the story so far. This is one of the biggest reveals in BC and I don’t think Tabata would be slipping on timeline details on something so important in Asta/Liebe’s backstory.
But hey, we’ll just have to wait and see!
I think when Asta and Liebe finally make an official contract they will see each other’s memories and Liebe will see Asta looking at Licita as she leaves him at the church and Asta will see his mom for the first real time
a video now that's a blessing
What if asta had magic and she tock it out
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@YAMI san wtf does that have to do with this 😂😂😂
Even without mana, asta is still op than anyone else because the fact that he is the only one and the only one can use the anti magic swords..the anti magic swords are currently astas plot armor and he is very op and actually he can beat everyone else with just a sword..so i guess he is more more too op if he has magic..asta is definitely a God to them if he can use both anti magic and magic at the same time even julius,lumiere,licht,the dark triads and their devils cant defeat him if that happens . Also i think this will happen but right now, as the main character, asta really need a weakness and that weakness is for him without having a mana besides its completely boring if that happens too early.
Hes too op for now and if he gets more op, he can defeat anyone without everyones help
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If you think about it, the only way Licita would've had a child is if a mutation happened that stopped her child from having magic, since she would be draining the child of both the magic and lifeforce would've killed the child while it was still in her womb
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Great video J I got one question that on my mind since this chapter does Liebe knows that Asta is related to Licita or are they pulling a Dramatic irony at the moment
I don’t even think he knows, but if he does he definitely just wanted to keep it to himself
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Woah! This theory cleared up my own misunderstanding, lol. We should expect more of the series.
Can I ask question?
I cant stop replaying the video to hear the intro
i mean that is basically his mother and here j said it
Nero is so high as fuck that time. 🤣
I never been this fast to a video before
Lucifero may not be the strongest devil regarding the statement from Liebe. When Lucifero is controlling him he stated he was one of the highest ranks. This implies there are other devils stronger than him
He is the strongest that would know of, but I believe there are other demon kings for sure
Yeah it’s like the apostle of sephirah. Rill was one but charla was stronger
watch there be a demon god thats aboe lucifero named satano since we know the idea of a demon god is possible as the forbidden spell licht used to transform into a demon was called demon god transformation and was stated to be the highest tier of forbidden/weg magic by licht, also other anime like deil is a part timer and blue exorcist split lucifer and satan into 2 separate characters with satan being the higher ranked and superior to lucifer so i could see tabata doing the same.
I still think he’s the strongest, cause I don’t why they would say “if the last devil lucifero comes out the human world is finished”
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Ah yes I love this intro now lets see this video 😌
After this chapter im pretty sure that's Asta mother everything literally adds up to her looking like him, the basket, the dialogue, and Asta with no mana when he was a baby and when secre explained what she did, people must've read it wrong since it was written that way so yeah great video.
Asta not having mana makes sense now. What I don't get now is how a devil, a race with extremely high magic power (higher than the elves) is born with no mana at all. I need that explained tabata lol
True lol that’s very odd
You know what is eating me about this whole thing? Ok so liebe was born with out magic... ok ok, how did he gain anti magic? Her mother? I don't know maaaaan
I just realized it can't be Asta's mother Unless deamons age way faster than humans. Cause the demon looks waaaaay older.
So Luchita has two different magic types or is she cursed? Her magic type was to put things with no mana into things. Then she also absorbs life force and mana. Henry also is the same except we know he’s cursed. Just sumn to think about
Pretty sure it's a curse, if it was her magic then she would be able to control it. Since she can't control it, it is a curse
U make a point
Is that bird tailow in pokemon ?
Wow. I have watch several videos explaining the timeline, and Nero’s statement of her watching over the grimoire and no one has explained it better, and more detailed than you. So, thank you for that. Keep up with the great work.
I think Licita is Asta’s mom. I think Nero watch over the grimoire most of the time just like you explained at the beginning. Also, maybe she was watching the whole time but was robbed of her human consciousnes for most of the time “asleep”. Her “bird-self” might have followed the grimoire, but was not actually her, thus “asleep”. Either way, I’m sure Tabata will address this.
Thank you man! Btw i agree with that & that could be the case that she was awake but her consciousness was elsewhere for 500 years but who knows really haha
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Well if you think about it, Licita's magic is uncontrollable and doesn't really have an "off switch." That means Asta was exposed to it as a fetus pretty much constantly so... it's likely his mana defect was a natural evolution to survive in his mother's womb.
I am having doubts that this is astas mother because some people say that she probably accidently took away mana when he was born but if she did then the mana would come back and we do see her put a basket in front of a church but I am not sure if it is asta and if asta was really her child then he would at least have a little bit of mana she probably is an ancestor of asta
the only thing on my mind is if Lucifero was taking over Liebe's body so he could search for a way to manifest into the human world, and Licita places Asta at Hage village took place before that and it happened on the same day that Yuno was placed there and Yuno was placed there because the dark triad took over the spade kingdom and was killing the royalty there, then wouldn't that mean Lucifero already had a contract with Dante at the time he was taking control over Liebe's body. unless the dark triad took control over the spade kingdom without Dante having his devil powers yet but I don't think that's likely. anyways why would Lucifero try to take over Liebe when he already had a contract with Dante at the time is what I'm asking? and if I'm getting any of my facts wrong then please feel free to correct me so I understand better, thank you.
I like this theory. When i saw the episode, i originally thought Liebe was Asta. Like his love for his adoptive mother gave him a sense of belonging and to save him from Lucifero, he was sealed away into or he possessed a child that died during birth to give it a chance of a new life.
But it makes sense that the interactions with Lucifero and Lichita caused an unnatural birth of Asta and that her own powers would drain any magic Asta would have had naturally while being born.
Either way i loved Liebe and Lichita's back story. Asta is awesome.
Licita finding the grimoire makes a lot more sense if it was soon after the demon attack. It had probably just been thrown somewhere in the forest during the fight. With Licita being a person just wandering around that forest all of the time, it makes perfect sense that she stumbled upon it. Nero probably didn’t find it and hide it until after the events of the flashback.
1. Asta's mother went to hage village to leave Asta there.
2. She found the five leaf clover there and brought that with her. Nero might have seen her and followed her but she is only a bird and of course she couldn't do anything. Also, the grimoire didn't choose Asta's mother; she just found it and took it with her.
3. Asta's mom met with the AMD and showed him the clover that she found recently.
4. Lucifero appears and AMD gets sealed inside the grimore.
5. Nero takes the grimore and returns it back to the cave in Hage village.
Nero did looked after the grimore for 500 years. Come on, its 500 fuckin' years and she doesn't have to mention every single moment when the grimore was out of her sight. There might also have been other instances when people came and took the grimore with them in the past 500 years. Nero probably took care of that too.
5 leaf grimoire she had it because she is descended of lictch and teata
J-Cloud: how did the anti magic demon get his power
He was probably born with it?
It's not like the Anti magic demon had an anti magic demon 😆
He probably got anti magic when got older.
@@jeremydyer5696 but how.
@@farolddatrinidade6149He probably born with it him being in Licht's grimore made him stronger.
@@farolddatrinidade6149 the AMD probably has anti magic from the start but since the anti magic isn't magic the demons didn't detect it like asta even though he has anti magic flowing through his body,they are still saying this no magic brat.
Hey bro, I love your predictions and explanations, it makes sense. The episode 170 already released and I watched it. Your prediction is absolute. I love it.
Litchia got killed by Lucifero and when she was about to die she sealed some of her absorbing magic and some of Lucifero magic into the Gilmore also seals Liebe into the Gilmore. Also that’s why one of Asta’s swords were able to drain opponents magic. And Litchia had give away Asta because she was afraid that, she will drain Asta’s magic away. But she did because she was pregnant and she was already draining his magic since he was in her stomach. But the one thing I don’t get is who’s ASTAS father. And like the first wizard king said “ I got to meet my descendants”, was he referring to Asta or Yuno?
I think your theory is one of the few that solved the timeline issue and are 99% chance to be true, maybe Secre meant something else when she said she watch it over.
Remember, First chapter Asta and yuno dropped in church in the same day in same kind of basket wearing same kind of clothes and writing name in the same place with same writing styles and from this chapter licita is citizen of clover kingdom ( magic knights and five leaf clover grimmore) if licita dropped Asta in the church. Then, it's insane level of coincidence. From I know in animes coincidence happen very less and another question who is asta's father if licita has a magic that steals mana and life force what kind of guy get close to her. This chapter creates lots of confusion.
I have a question did the anti magic devil know Asta was possibly his brother because remember when he told him that he was the closest person too him which may state that he he knew they were like brothers but didn’t tell him
It would make most sense if Licita was either Asta's mother or his grandmother
Licita left ASTA in the church so that his she couldn't absorb Asta's mana
Because ASTA is Licita's son and he was in her belly for Nine months that's why whenever his mana started manifesting , it was absorbed by Licita unintentionally
But it still doesn't make sense for licita to leave asta because he had no magic powers. Licita was able to tell and take care of liebe because he didn't have any magic. I think asta might had a little magic left but his body used it to allow him to increase his normal physical strength
@@skullcrusher5722 You didn't get what I was trying to say
@@shane.309 but you don't get what I'm saying. If asta was born with no magic then licita would've stayed with him because she won't be able to absorb his magic, that's why she could stay with liebe because he had no magic.
@@shane.309 unless asta still had magic when she left him, it doesn't make sense for her to leave him
@@skullcrusher5722 because she didn't knew
She thought the mana haven't
started to manifest that's why but it was too late
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I think your theory is correct
Still not convinced that she is Asta's mother. to say that there is a possibility that nero woke up during Asta's timeline doesnt make sense just because there is an inconsistency of looking after 500 years and not being awake for some of those years. I mean if Nero is aware that shes been asleep for more than 450 years she wouldnt say shes been looking after the book for 500 years thats too much of a claim than her being asleep for 20 - 30 years of that 500 years. Another thing is, if this timeline is same with Asta, the AMD couldnt ba that strong right away to assist him on his fight. On chapter 1, it gave me the impression that the AMD is stronger and more capable than that helpless kid who was recently been stored in the book. It would have made more sense if the book has been used before giving the AMD some time to develop and maybe give sense why the 2 swords were scattered. I guess we just have to wait to find out
I wonder though how was she able to carry that child in her womb if she can steal life force? And how was it able to survive being with her while carrying it to that place where she left the baby? Obviously she had to spend time with the baby for sometime before she was able to live him there and given how fast her condition was able to affect the snake, the baby shoudnt have had the chance to be near her for too long. hahaha now im overthinking this too much I hate you tabata lol
How did that woman even became pregnant in the first place? Can you imagine how that guy even managed it? hahaha
How’d Asta get the royal baby suit thing
Are you a manga reader?
personally i think that he was born in a village that was loved by mana and he got drained then his parents hid him and sent him to hage village where no one would expect him to be there but idk
Is it also possible that asta's mana has been stored to that small jar? Then when the times come the jar will open then asta's insane mana pool will unleash.
This video completely made me look at it differently but I still can't wrap my head around the contract asta has or if he even has one.
yo where do you find the manga passed the current volume thats out?
Your new name is Prof. J-Cloud😼😼
So I think the house Fanzell was in could that have been Licita it seems like close to that area deep in the woods outside of Hage
Actually, we do have reason to think that Nero was aware for a huge chunk of time, but that same reason means she would be away from the grimoire for stretches of time. That reason is that Nero knew the location of magic stones and Licht’s sword. Clearly Nero was there and conscious when those things were being hid.
Why didn't she took the life force of liebe and how did she sealeas him in the grimoire...pls ans this
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Nero/secré probably said 500 years to impress her prince lol
Now I'm REALLY curious who is Asta's dad, knowing all the details about Licita...I have never been this invested in anime or manga before except maybe DBZ as a kid, but still
When you can't beat your enemies so you get help from you big bro lol
Lol right
I think it makes sense...If nero was sleeping for the entire 500 years ,it would make sense why she never brought up tetia and the fact that she might have survived because even if she did,after 500 years she would have passed away anyways...
Also the fact that nero didn't had the grimoire and asta got it from the grimoire tower also fits now..
I don’t think is a theory......
I feel the twist here is that asta and liebe are brothers not by blood but licita real blood son and adoptive son
They’re reflection of each other
Coming up with ways to get stronger merging with each other
My question is, she found a five leaf grimoire , but the devil wasn't sealed in it yet, also asta grows another set of horns when he goes in black form. is there another devil residing in that grimoire?
We are all assuming that Lichita died. Her death wasnt shown, just that she was severely injured. My theory is that Nero knew Lichita and that she had the 5 leaf. Nero may have been watching.over Asta his whole life knowing that he will end up with AMD and the 5 leaf because Lichita asked her to. It's possible Lichita is still alive, Nero knows this and isnt saying anything because that will come I to play much later
Hum.... interesting. It may or may not be. I wonder why Licht’s grimoire chose Asta. We know that Grimoire is very related to the soul.... If you know something please tell me. Thank you and sorry for my English I am French.
Something I don't get: the 5 leaf should have ALREADY had a devil inside it. And apparently it was a devil with antimagic? How does that work?
2 questions
1. WHO IS THE ORIGINAL USER OF THE 5 leaf BOOK.
2. WHO IS ASTA FATHER?
1.litica's son
2.we have to wait.
@@beingrandomisfun6927 actually licht was the first user of the book then it sat near or on top of the demon skull until licita found it and now ribe/asta are its current owners and users.
@@CrimsonReapa that's what i said, if we go by the theory that litica is asta's mother than liebe and asta both are her sons so no matter who it belongs to it's her son's grimoire,
Litch was the former owner and during the elf arc he stated the grimoire no longer belonged to him so i didn't mention him.
Nero/secre wouldnt have know about the grimware (or however it is spelled ) cause since lachita can obsorbe mana and life force secre wouldnt be able to get close and not able to keep track of it
Nero wake up with Asta scream.
Anyone agree with me.
It makes more sense that she woke up around the start of the series if not then nero is pretty much immortal for living over 500 years it would more sense that her sleep was like cryosleep preserving her body and then waking up a year or 2 before asta got the grimoire
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When asta fights the anti magic devil, can he use Yami's Katana? Since that's the only one that was not originally shrouded in Anti- magic. Great video BTW!!!
Things doesn't add up such as why the demon dweller and demon destroyer swords were not in the grimoire but were already rustys. Also why Lucifero would took Liebe body while he already have Dante makes no sense too.
It doesn’t add up if Nero already said she fell asleep and many years passed between those 500 years she watched the grimoire for 500 years if the battle took place 500 years ago. You can’t round that up to 500 if she was sleep between those years. That’s a plot hole because that’s not how math works, and like I explained in the video Lucifero was using Liebe I don’t believe he could take over his body to manifest, the underworld gate needs to be open
@Naruto Uzumaki Lucifero wanted to use liebe because he can control and exicist in the human world. He is not limited to dante as he still lives in the underworld and dante jusr borrows his power. He can basically do what he wants
So, Asta inherited the Five Leaf Grimoire and he basically had it the entire time waiting for him at the right moment to come into the world.
Though the question is: did Licht when he was in William Vangeance recognize there was a devil in it when he saw it? Remember, in the Episode of the Magic Knights Exam, he said in the Episode "That Grimoire..." as if he could recognize something with it. Licht in William Vangeance knew there was a devil hidden within it. That is the first moment we know something was up with the Grimoire. Also, of you take a look at the writing in the Five Leaf Grimoire, it is different than the other Grimoires, and that is for a reason.
Asta had inherited a Grimoire is what I am getting at. So Asta had a Grimoire the entire time, even before Yuno most likely, but I could be wrong.