Our Greatest Enemy | Reapers COMPLETE Breakdown

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  • The Reapers are the greatest enemy to all life in the Milky Way Galaxy. This complete breakdown of this Mass Effect species, which blurred the line between organic and artificial life, from their history with the Leviathan species, to their ultimate fate with Commander Shepard. See while this is the ultimate Mass Effect species.
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  • @spartantraveler7251
    @spartantraveler7251 29 วันที่ผ่านมา +582

    "Ah, yes, 'Reapers'. The immortal race of sentient starships allegedly waiting in dark space. We have dismissed this claim."

    • @paytonturner1421
      @paytonturner1421 29 วันที่ผ่านมา +45

      That line from that taurian is the example of being oblivious to a greater threat.

    • @spartantraveler7251
      @spartantraveler7251 29 วันที่ผ่านมา +22

      @@paytonturner1421 the oh so great Citadel Council blinds themselves and their citizens to maintain the "very precious" status quo. Pathetic.

    • @Austin-sw3mf
      @Austin-sw3mf 29 วันที่ผ่านมา +7

      ​@@spartantraveler7251Terra Firma, mf

    • @jrr7031
      @jrr7031 28 วันที่ผ่านมา +8

      Which game and part was this line from? Im going to clip it and use it on my youtube page as a snarky remark. Lol (not this account im messaging from)

    • @paytonturner1421
      @paytonturner1421 28 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

      @@jrr7031 ME2

  • @Austin-sw3mf
    @Austin-sw3mf 29 วันที่ผ่านมา +255

    It's wild that this series is 17 years old now. I remember getting this for Christmas in 2007, and how much fun I had discovering this crazy galaxy. Definitely peak BioWare, along with NWN, BG 1 and 2, Jade Empire, KOTOR, and DA. Just a fuckin decade+ of bangers from them.

    • @silverthehero1295
      @silverthehero1295 25 วันที่ผ่านมา +10

      I remember my dad got me ME1 for my birthday but I was disappointed and confused. I had never heard of Mass Effect, but I still decided to give it a try.
      I quickly grew to love it with multiple playthroughs.

    • @misanthropicservitorofmars2116
      @misanthropicservitorofmars2116 18 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      The PS3 is almost 18 💀

    • @Austin-sw3mf
      @Austin-sw3mf 18 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      @misanthropicservitorofmars2116 I played it on the 360 bc screw waiting 5 years for them to port it to PS3. We didn't even know IF it was going to get a port at the time.

    • @wanderhillen2435
      @wanderhillen2435 18 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      Man Jade Empire, that takes me back a loooong time. Great game, and obviously all the others were absolute bangers too.

    • @Austin-sw3mf
      @Austin-sw3mf 17 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      @@wanderhillen2435 Yeah, I picked it up when I saw it was a BioWare game. It had a good story, and I liked that BW tried something a little outside of their wheelhouse.

  • @danwybrow7226
    @danwybrow7226 29 วันที่ผ่านมา +136

    “Your words are as empty as your future. We are the vanguards of your destruction.” CHILLS, every single time!

    • @EternalNightingale
      @EternalNightingale 14 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Goosebumps frrr🥶🥶

    • @theend-nz6vs
      @theend-nz6vs 8 วันที่ผ่านมา

      That feels like a roast

  • @MrTrees77
    @MrTrees77 17 วันที่ผ่านมา +59

    God damn Mass effect's such an amazing series. The fact that it stays grounded to real science while still having batshit crazy technology and lore is so appealing

    • @MetaNerdzLore
      @MetaNerdzLore  17 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      yeah every time I look into it more I find new things I love and extra layers

  • @maplemayhem1988
    @maplemayhem1988 19 วันที่ผ่านมา +25

    Imagine getting turned into soup but at least you get to be a super cool giant spaceship robot, only to get murdered again before you even leave the shipyard

  • @AeronHale
    @AeronHale 15 วันที่ผ่านมา +22

    EA are the real Reapers.
    They preserve nothing, while consuming & destroying all they lay their hands on.
    RIP Bioware, builders of wonderful universes and stories.
    You are missed.

  • @skoalsniper006
    @skoalsniper006 29 วันที่ผ่านมา +88

    Man you could tell me the lore of a coconut and I'd listen to it. The fact that you're constantly covering subjects I enjoy is just the benefit. Great work man!

  • @neilhannan5112
    @neilhannan5112 29 วันที่ผ่านมา +111

    Fun Fact: Bioware the Studio behind Mass Effect they also did the STAR WARS KOTOR when developing KOTOR 3 before cancelling the enemies The true sith were inspired by the shadow from Babylon 5 and when the game was cancelled they based The Reapers on the old game

    • @Austin-sw3mf
      @Austin-sw3mf 29 วันที่ผ่านมา +11

      They also graced us with the first 2 Baldur's Gate games, and the excellent Neverwinter Nights. I remember how awesome KOTOR was, bc it felt like NWN, but with a better budget, and the change in camera angle made it feel more cinematic.

    • @nebenkosteh
      @nebenkosteh 28 วันที่ผ่านมา +7

      Damn, so Babylon 5 really did influence sci-fi. The shadows are arguably the best sci-fi villains ever written

    • @razor1.276
      @razor1.276 5 วันที่ผ่านมา

      All this advanced technology do you think no one attempted to record the conversation on their Omni tool

  • @KiShonRasmussen-wj3ie
    @KiShonRasmussen-wj3ie 25 วันที่ผ่านมา +62

    “We impose order on the chaos of organic evolution you exist because we allow it and you will end because we demand it. I am the vanguard of your extinction this exchange is over”Sovereign

  • @isakhagg243
    @isakhagg243 28 วันที่ผ่านมา +45

    “We impose order on the chaos of organic evolution. You exist because we allow it, and you will end because we demand it.”
    ~ Sovereign
    Such a chilling line.
    Baffles me that Sovereign is not Harbinger.
    Harbinger is a loser and doesn’t project the same level of fear as Sovereign. He also had the balls to fight us directly. Taking over Saren’s corpse to try and kill Shepard. Unlike Harbinger, who just stares at the Normandy landing directly infront of it and lets it take off without a single beam of death being fired.

    • @brunohommerding3416
      @brunohommerding3416 18 วันที่ผ่านมา +4

      Well to be fair Harbinger constantly fights against us in ME2 by assuming control of troops just like Sovereign did with Saren. I just found it odd how absent Harbinger was in ME3, i expected him to be the "main" antagonist and taking more direct action against Sheppard. But one could argue that he underestimated him even after all the setbacks and focused on the galactic purge instead until way too late

    • @pietervanderzwaan4295
      @pietervanderzwaan4295 15 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

      ​@@brunohommerding3416at the very end of the game you'll see harbinger, that big ass reaper when you run to the beam leading to the citadel.

    • @emmanuel4989
      @emmanuel4989 14 วันที่ผ่านมา +5

      @@brunohommerding3416 I don't think Harbinger underestimates Shepard, that Reaper on Rannoch said that Harbinger speaks about Shepard and the threat they pose. Also the reason why Harbinger and the Reapers hit Earth the hardest was due to Shepard and in extention humanity gaining the Reapers attention by destroying Sovereign and delaying their invasion. Harbinger even goes to Earth to try and kill Shepard directly in the final beam run. It was a poor decision by Bioware not to include Harbinger in ME3 more though.

    • @brunohommerding3416
      @brunohommerding3416 6 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@emmanuel4989 Oh yeah on these points its clear that it was "personal" for Harbingers and the reapers to focus alot on Earth. I remember back in 2013 watching for the first time Harbinger land while we ran to the citadel beam and was like "FUCK YEAH".
      I just wish he was more interactive like during ME2

  • @Philtopy
    @Philtopy 20 วันที่ผ่านมา +23

    Imagine how many Reapers got destroyed during the games and in the final battle in ME3. They make one Sovereign class per worthy race per cycle. So something between one to four in one Cycle. The Protheans only resulted in a single new Reaper. So even if the reapers had won that final engagement, this Cycle has caused them demage measuring in the dozens and dozens of Cycles. So even if the ME3 organics had lost that war, it would have been an absolute *disaster,* a phyrric victory, for the reapers. Likely forcing them to completely rethink and adjust the cycle in accordance. So if the ME3 organics hadnt won that war, organic intelligent life in its entirety may have never gotten another chance to get that close to them ever again.
    ME3 really is the final battle.

    • @gryphon_Space
      @gryphon_Space 19 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

      so this is a common and understandable misunderstanding, the reapers turn 1 species per cycle into capital ship class reapers while all others becomes destroyers, only 1 capital ship reaper per cycle is unsustainable.

    • @Philtopy
      @Philtopy 17 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@gryphon_Space aaaah I see. thanks! now that makes the statistic for them even worse. even more cause for them to reasses and redesign the cycle alltogether.
      But I always wondered why they never took a more proactive aproach to the entire cycle and indoctrinate and elevate organics way more directly?
      Why not infuse all aspiring civilised organic species with strong religious cults, honoring the reapers as their gods and salvation? Like with the Geth. This leads to them either just surrender to the Reapers as soon as they emerge, or there will be huge religious galactic civil wars, wich weakens their defense against the extermination. Either way the Reapers would have a really easy harvest.
      I am having the Genestealer Cults in Warhammer 40k in mind.
      Or is this like the Matrix: "The system doesnt work if we make it too easy"?

    • @ombrepourpre7562
      @ombrepourpre7562 9 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Agreed,
      Yet a big mistake. Protean were a council of many race under one leading them. But not master/slave.
      So no, there have be more than one build after the fall of the Proteans.
      Beside, Proteans themself have destroyed multiple of the Reapers. Big and little.
      The number of new ship depend of how many world of people each race have settle and live.
      The "one ship for the more dominant race" is the one remaining behind, to prepare the come back.
      Not how many they have built from the cycle.

    • @thrrax
      @thrrax 8 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      The true Protheans, as in Javik's species, were never "reaperized". They were instead turned into the Collectors. Initially they wanted the Collectors to be from all the Prothean empire species, but they decided on true Protheans to be the commanders and the foot soldiers to save up on models, while Abominations and Scions are human mutations and Praetorians are mechanical infused with human DNA (and skulls), created once the Collectors started abducting humans.

  • @KeytarArgonian
    @KeytarArgonian 21 วันที่ผ่านมา +31

    I’d like to point out that it WAS a long time for the intelligence to decide on its final solution: the Reaper program. The intelligence tells you that it studied and tried to intervene in many AI uprises over an unknown period of time. It didn’t just instantly decide it would turn on its masters, and really if you think about it the Reaper program carried out its function successfully for a BILLION YEARS. It’s hard to say it was a failure of a project when it was largely correct, until Shepard and the most upgraded Crucible happened to just show up in the same cycle and prove to the Intelligence that the Reaper program had finally failed. Which is also the best argument against indoctrination theory, because no matter what ending you chose, the catalyst gives you a way to destroy the Reaper program in its current form. Even, ironically, the refusal ending leads to the defeat of the Reapers.

  • @macwelch8599
    @macwelch8599 29 วันที่ผ่านมา +42

    Imagine if Star Wars had something like this

    • @konradoziom2225
      @konradoziom2225 29 วันที่ผ่านมา +21

      Abeloth and Vong should count as such. Or at least something simmilar.

    • @Disco_Biscuit_
      @Disco_Biscuit_ 26 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Star wars
      King's of the galaxy
      Fighting for you and I
      Fighting for me

    • @Gabes_Game_Cave
      @Gabes_Game_Cave 22 วันที่ผ่านมา +6

      The first season of Star Trek: Picard shamelessly ripped off mass effect. STP had "artifacts" that granted visions of an ancient machine race that periodically wiped out organics.

    • @MetastaticMaladies
      @MetastaticMaladies 21 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      The people that have made games and written books set in the Star Wars universe are way better writers than those that created the Star Wars universe. Reason I like the games better than the films, mostly, is because of the terrible writing the films have and all the inconsistencies and bullshit. It’s like they were just making it up as they went with no real thought behind it.

    • @shadowhenge7118
      @shadowhenge7118 11 วันที่ผ่านมา

      ​@@Gabes_Game_Cave and mass effect ripped off a ton of other material. Every idea in sci fi has already been done. Every trope exhausted. Tge trick is can you use those lego bricks to tell a new story.

  • @vonneely1977
    @vonneely1977 28 วันที่ผ่านมา +21

    They worshipped, so they said, the Great Old Ones who lived ages before there were any men, and who came to the young world out of the sky...

    • @craigsovilla6578
      @craigsovilla6578 18 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      Lovecraft's influence on modern media could never be properly measured.

  • @JoshuaAdim
    @JoshuaAdim 19 วันที่ผ่านมา +5

    Mass effect 3 galaxy map theme if you're wondering. I've been listening to it for years whenever I needed to relax and get some sleep

  • @darthvader78441
    @darthvader78441 29 วันที่ผ่านมา +18

    They were inspired by Babylon 5's "Shadows"

  • @jamesbrockis5182
    @jamesbrockis5182 29 วันที่ผ่านมา +52

    Such a great build-up, only to fail at the climax.

    • @silverhawkscape2677
      @silverhawkscape2677 24 วันที่ผ่านมา +8

      That's what she said.

    • @Philtopy
      @Philtopy 20 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@silverhawkscape2677 nnnice

    • @averylynn_buttercup676
      @averylynn_buttercup676 6 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      Often it is thus when someone makes a masterpiece. I understand the ending had its problems, because the team was forced to rush their production of the 3rd game due to time and demand issues. This is one of those times where they were damned if they do, damned if they don't. Had they taken the time to actually get things down good and right most fans would have long been in outcry and profits would have majorly dropped due to the generational gap. Same things we've seen with other games who do try to take the time to end or continue things right. That dilemma combined with the extreme expectations from their fans made it bound to be less than what those expectations were. Me however I am just happy to have gotten to enjoy the journey. Yes it could have ended better, but I'm just happy it did have an end, unlike some other great stories that don't. >~> Looking at you Valve.

    • @volkskrieg8735
      @volkskrieg8735 5 วันที่ผ่านมา

      ​@@averylynn_buttercup676what a mature way to look at it. I enjoy a lot of manga and it is the same dilemma there. 9/10 manga never get an ending.

  • @unrealzman68
    @unrealzman68 10 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

    Leviathans:
    "Oh no the lesser species keep developing ai and getting destroyed by it. How do we stop this cycle"
    "So we built this ai to solve the problem"
    "Why is the ai looking at me weird"

  • @AGSx37
    @AGSx37 29 วันที่ผ่านมา +8

    отлично, мне нравятся твои прошлые видео по Star Wars, а Mass Effect моя самая любимая трилогия - я рад что ты начал делать видео по этой вселенной)

  • @Robert-cl2ft
    @Robert-cl2ft 3 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    I have been seeing a resurgence of mass effect content and this convinced me to replay the trilogy again

  • @matthewsolis7075
    @matthewsolis7075 28 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

    Love mass effect so glad you covered the reapers I think they are awesome and it’s a shame more people didn’t seek out their history while playing the games

  • @Dovah_Slayer
    @Dovah_Slayer 15 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    I'll admit i never expected Metanerdz to cover anything in the Mass Effect series it's a surprise to be sure but a welcome one

  • @justindunlap1235
    @justindunlap1235 7 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Thank you, ive been needing some mass effect lore.

  • @RobotechLegos
    @RobotechLegos 26 วันที่ผ่านมา +4

    Give the writers of mass effect their flowers. Good god!
    I loved the games but no idea how deep the lore was.

  • @BioShrog
    @BioShrog 6 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Awesome video.

  • @Lantian99
    @Lantian99 15 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

    I really need this game turned into a show. A show with ppl that KNOW the material! And make you think about big decisions of the main character throughout the seasons. Thank you for your breakdown it was truly eye-opening to me thinking of the Reapers on a different level of understanding from references in human history.

  • @maplemayhem1988
    @maplemayhem1988 19 วันที่ผ่านมา +4

    The more I hear about the Reapers origin the more I'm starting to think I'm getting indoctrinated

  • @paytonturner1421
    @paytonturner1421 29 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    The video was very entertaining and informative, that's what I like about your channel and your videos. Can you do videos on the Mass Effect races?

    • @MetaNerdzLore
      @MetaNerdzLore  29 วันที่ผ่านมา +4

      Yeah I have them all written up but getting them done is taking time but should be done with all in a few months

    • @paytonturner1421
      @paytonturner1421 29 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@MetaNerdzLoreJust take your time to make sure anything important that you need to do is done. You don't want to rush yourself.

  • @Mike-eo1hl
    @Mike-eo1hl 11 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Alright fine…
    *boots up mass effect for the 19th time*

  • @johnnycatch2243
    @johnnycatch2243 29 วันที่ผ่านมา +27

    The mass effect 3 fight with them was underwhelming

    • @dragonblaster-vu8wz
      @dragonblaster-vu8wz 29 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      I think that game was rushed to completion. Same with Andromeda. So they could've been much better if they were given more time on both games

    • @robinmiller871
      @robinmiller871 16 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Yea.... by the time we fought the 'baby reaper'.... everyone should have known it was over!

  • @volkskrieg8735
    @volkskrieg8735 4 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Drew karpyshyn is a master at telling a story and building a narrative. He was a large reason these games were so good.

  • @mikeyfrederick1232
    @mikeyfrederick1232 7 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Just got to say sir you really did justice to the Mass Effect universe... I think I played it 8 years ago? Still a top pick for one of my favorite games...Your video just reminded me how amazing the game was....
    being torn and nervous when it came to making decisions...and trying to hard to get certain characters to do certain things lol...
    I don't try to be naive but I really think/hope that most sentient beings would cooperate with each other...GRANTED it takes a serious annihilation event to do so... kind of like Independence Day..
    Props to you and your Channel...

  • @dragonblaster-vu8wz
    @dragonblaster-vu8wz 29 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

    I love the inclusion of Mass Effect Andromeda story as well. I really wish they'd make a sequel to that game, if nothing else but to complete that story. Hopefully the upcoming Mass Effect game answers some of those questions

    • @HyugaBlood881
      @HyugaBlood881 29 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      I finally gave Andromeda a chance it honestly wasn't that bad I really liked it I gotta play again on ps5 I wasn't very far on it on my ps4 b4 I upgraded lol

    • @dragonblaster-vu8wz
      @dragonblaster-vu8wz 29 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      @@HyugaBlood881 and it suffered the same behind-the-scenes issues that Mass Effect 3 did too. Rushed to production, even plans canceled because they just didn't have enough time. It's actually a decent game. It could be better, of course, but it still could be much worse

  • @powerstrokin2479
    @powerstrokin2479 19 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    FINALLY someone is doing reaper lore

  • @kienPerry-wi6bl
    @kienPerry-wi6bl 17 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    I hope you can do halo and the covenant species and weapons and ships one day and I hope you’re doing well and take care and keep up the good work😊❤

    • @MetaNerdzLore
      @MetaNerdzLore  17 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      thanks you too! and yep I have a ton of those already written just gotta get to them over the year

  • @darkreflection9087
    @darkreflection9087 27 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Awesome

  • @Bust-it-Open
    @Bust-it-Open 22 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    This game blew my mind. I couldn't stop playing, heartbroken at the end. The Sovereign blew my mind.

  • @retr0dk93
    @retr0dk93 8 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    The scariest part about the reapers is thay at no point do thay consider it a war. It's a harvest to them. The galaxy fighting back is irrelevant to them.

  • @totalchaos444
    @totalchaos444 18 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I took a week off from undergrad classes during 2009 to play this game.
    The memories were good!

  • @feralprocessor9853
    @feralprocessor9853 29 วันที่ผ่านมา +6

    Tali is best girl.

  • @Wavy_Gravy
    @Wavy_Gravy 19 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    Us believing AI will evolve past us is just hubris. This whole story, is about precived hubris, across different mediums, times, dementions(dark space), and so on. IMO.

  • @jyahnarastartes
    @jyahnarastartes 21 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    I know glados/hal is considered to be the best ai villains but I think the reapers take the crown as number one best ai villain.

  • @RaggaeGandalf92
    @RaggaeGandalf92 29 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    How fitting, my Favorit tabletop System Dropzone commander and its sister System dropfleet commander released a trailer for a New faction yesterday, and the faction is a bit like the reaper mixed with 40k's Khorne

  • @AIFRANCHISE1
    @AIFRANCHISE1 17 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    So much damn potential…the writers just couldn’t bring it all together in a way that satisfied all that build up.

  • @davidnavarro4821
    @davidnavarro4821 23 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

    One possible inspiration for the Reapers were the Shivans from the Freespace video game franchise: a non-planetarian aquatic-like species that wiped out an entire ancient civilization eons ago, coming back to exterminate humanity and its extraterrestrial rival for unknown purposes. Their ships have black-red designs and fire destructive red beams

  • @Marxon1134
    @Marxon1134 5 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Interesting how when you investigate the derelict reaper you find that almost, almost all the walkways were cerberus catwalks in cavernous areas that otherwise wouldn't allow for easy foot traffic.
    Really gave that feeling that you were on an expedition into a place you're really not supposed to be.
    The interior of the ship really wasn't designed for you to be in it.

  • @DominusNox106
    @DominusNox106 19 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    The Reapers remind me of the "Hunters of the Dawn" in a book series that starts with Luna Marine and continued through 9 books that gave me hope for our future... even with the Hunters as a BIG BAD.
    They are THE ANSWER to the Fermi Paradox.

    • @MetaNerdzLore
      @MetaNerdzLore  19 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      Sounds interesting I'll look into it

  • @Sbeve_One
    @Sbeve_One 13 วันที่ผ่านมา

    So glad this series was apart of my childhood

  • @Anglomachian
    @Anglomachian 28 วันที่ผ่านมา +7

    Why is everyone suddenly making Reaper videos? I’m getting worried here

    • @MetaNerdzLore
      @MetaNerdzLore  28 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

      Lol really? That is scary

    • @stubbornspaceman7201
      @stubbornspaceman7201 27 วันที่ผ่านมา

      It’s probably just because of all the hype for the new ME game

    • @christophergroenewald5847
      @christophergroenewald5847 25 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Probably because mass effect has been circulating the internet more than usual lately.

    • @Dovah_Slayer
      @Dovah_Slayer 15 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      ​@stubbornspaceman7201 surely this game will be better than andromeda...... right?

    • @stubbornspaceman7201
      @stubbornspaceman7201 15 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@Dovah_SlayerHonestly the biggest problem with Andromeda is that like 3 it was *heavily* rushed. But one can only hope that this new one *doesn’t* flop.

  • @Anonymous-vr6ph
    @Anonymous-vr6ph 14 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Our real enemies are the friends we made along the way

    • @MetaNerdzLore
      @MetaNerdzLore  12 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Lol probably true with the leviathans

  • @ShinigamiSamaH
    @ShinigamiSamaH 22 วันที่ผ่านมา +23

    I know a lot of people hated the three colors ending or how there are theories on Shepard already being indoctrinated by that point.
    But personally, I still subscribe to the Synthesis ending. It is the only one that really offers a long-term solution to the primary conflict of the entire Mass Effect series, racial differences. From the warlike Krogan to the alien Rachni, from the Biotics enhanced Asari to the mechanical Geth, or organics versus synthetics,... all have differences that prevents them from truly uniting. Even as the backdrop or unintended consequence of our actions, Shepard have slowly build bridges and solve those differences throughout the trilogy.
    Destruction would stop the immediate threat, but all it really does is resetting the cycle of violence. Someday, when the lesson of the past is long forgotten, another conflict between organics and synthetics will rise again.
    Control halt the threat, keeping the cycle in a stalemate. But how long will it last? What stopping the cycle to resume when control no longer function, much like the Keepers of the Citadel?
    Synthesis change the cycle, giving it new paths and possibilities. Much like with other races throughout the trilogy, we extend an olive branch of reconciliation to the Reapers. To break down the barrier between organics and synthetics, helping them to see eyes to eyes with each other so we can all come out stronger together.
    If Legion, the Geths, and EDI have a soul, then so does a Reaper. It would be hypocritical otherwise. And personally, the Shepard I know would not throw those lives away if there is another option. The Synthesis option is scary because we fear change, the unknown, and false promises. But if no one take that first step, then nothing changed, nothing get solved.

    • @topethermohenes7658
      @topethermohenes7658 17 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      I've been arguing for years at this point that synthesis was the best option.

    • @Ender7j
      @Ender7j 16 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      Very nice

    • @emmanuel4989
      @emmanuel4989 14 วันที่ผ่านมา +9

      I disagree I think Synthesis is the worst one out the 3. It makes the least sense, it's the worst explained and it looks ridiculous. Forcing evolution on an entire galaxy without there consent, from just one human is unethical. It also wouldn't stop wars as organics and synthetics being connected and understanding each other isn't the only issue, even the Geth had a war with each other against the heretics, as long as everyone is individualistic, and have different ideas and beliefs, there will always be conflict. This ending also doesn't explain what will happen to the millions of husks, who's lives have already been ruined by the Reapers or to all the families that have all been torn apart by the Reapers and we're supposed to believe that they're just going to forgive and work with the Reapers peacefully now? This ending also goes against the trilogy constantly talking about the importance of advancing on your own and not being given short cuts to reaching that goal, this is even said by Legion in ME2. The galaxy is capable of reaching some type of Synthesis on their own without Reaper intervention or without it being forced upon them, If Alec Ryder could figure this out in MEA, I'm pretty sure people more intelligent than him could figure this out too. I think Destroy is the best, just because the Reapers say the problem will continue doesn't mean organics can't prove them wrong and find a solution on their own. Let's not forget, the Reapers also said they couldn't be defeated and were wrong about that too.

    • @topethermohenes7658
      @topethermohenes7658 14 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@emmanuel4989 so "destroy" is ethical? Mind you that we've already established that geth and synthetics have individuality too. But killing trillions of synthetics is ethical?

    • @topethermohenes7658
      @topethermohenes7658 14 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@emmanuel4989 "just because the reapers says the problems will continue doesn't mean the organics can prove them wrong" is one of the stupidest idea out there. Dude the same has been happening for literal billions of cycles, what makes organics of this cycle special? Shepard? 😂 besides the way organics solve problems is with AI and synths EVERY SINGLE TIME. Look at reality right now, we are not far from a world where AI controls everything, DO YOU think you're special? 😂 do you think you're the next Elon musk or the next bill gates?

  • @razor1.276
    @razor1.276 5 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    All this advanced technology, and nobody even wants think to consider to use their Omni tool to record some thing

  • @achristopher112
    @achristopher112 13 วันที่ผ่านมา

    God I remember the Kotor series, jade empire, and the ME series as peak gaming.

  • @overlordtrazyn861
    @overlordtrazyn861 3 วันที่ผ่านมา

    not entirely though yet, but at 18:00 you say that there are walkways inside of the reapers for organics to walk.
    do you mean the ones in the broken reaper? i always went with the assumption that cerberus build all of those to properly research it.
    kinda like construction scaffolding, you know?

  • @eldritchmorgasm4018
    @eldritchmorgasm4018 6 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I think the only movie showing something similar would be "Skyline" (1st one), big biomechanical ships harvesting humans (kinda like the Reapers), extracting brains to brainwash & repurpose them as control-units in other bodies (those could be the Collectors), and dead human bodies being disposed in a converter that makes protein-soup out of them, for food, I guess.

  • @saren7283
    @saren7283 17 วันที่ผ่านมา +5

    My take on The Reapers, is that while being an objectively highly advanced machine race.
    I think they're actually quite lacking on the high end tech and military advancement tree.
    It's very well known that the Reapers would not be able to fight the Covenant Fleet with some research, Reaper ships armor and Kinetic barrier type shielding isn't good enough to handle immensely powerful Plasma weaponry that the Covie fleet uses.
    Moreover, when it comes to the upper echelons of the tech tree that a civilization can reach, the Reapers are powerful, but average fish in the sea. The Reapers aren't capable of technologically progressing, they fall into the classic trap of essentially being a corrupted genocidal machine race. For example, I personally think the Reapers would experience a severe run for their money against the Cybrex and Contingency from Stellaris, it's actually possible the Ghost Signal would completely humble the Reapers.
    I DO think the Cybrex and Contingency wouldn't outright annihilate them very quickly, but they would severely cripple them to the point that the Reapers would never be capable of threatening the Galaxy ever again. If you toss in the Ghost signal? It's over. The Reapers aren't capable of innovation or engineering on a mass scale to protect themselves, they are flawed machines run by a non-adaptive Machine Consciousness.
    The Reapers would also be completely unable to fight against the likes of Mendicant Bias, nor it's superior, Offensive Bias. Such AI are beyond comprehension, reaching Godlike levels of processing capabilities. It's not just those entities' processing and tactical prowess, it's their technology too. It's not really worth digging into.
    Honestly, I'm genuinely unsure how Reapers en masse would be able to handle the Imperium of Man from 40k in space specifically, from what I've seen, Imperium navy ships come slightly short when in even numbers vs a Reaper fleet. But the thing about the Reapers, are that they're a ground invasion type of crisis. I absolutely believe the Imperium would be more than capable of destroying Reaper ground offensives. The Reapers would lose a battle of attrition to the Imperium HARD because of this.
    Reaper Destroyers would go down so goddamn fast, Sovereign class Reapers, while large, would lack the armor and fighting power to actually stand in a protracted fight against the Imperiums capabilities for immense firepower down on planetside.
    If the Reapers fought the Necrons or Eldar? Please, the Reapers are far too primitive in comparison to top level advancement such as them, they are the 0.1% of the 1%
    I think the Reapers are a nightmare scenario crisis for the vast majority of Civilizations in any Galaxy, but when it comes to the upper echelons of civilizations? The Reapers aren't capable of punching in the their own weight class.

    • @tristanbackup2536
      @tristanbackup2536 4 วันที่ผ่านมา

      If Reapers find a civilisation from other IPs that are far more advance than them, they'll have a existential crisis. For the first time, they will retreat & won't attack the galaxy again, they will be hunted down & dissected like lab-rats.

  • @coldsoul333
    @coldsoul333 7 วันที่ผ่านมา

    OMG this bring me back to the game so hard! should I play it game again? I finished the second 3 times and third 3-4 times......

  • @darkreflection9087
    @darkreflection9087 27 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Can you look at Matrix Sentinels

  • @Duran-not-Duran
    @Duran-not-Duran 19 วันที่ผ่านมา

    That multi colored ending that this franchise ended on will never leave the back of my mind.

  • @feralprocessor9853
    @feralprocessor9853 29 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Right off the bat, sovereign dising on organic life.

  • @triviszla1536
    @triviszla1536 22 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Not sure what series this is but have a like and a comment anyway

    • @JesusChristDenton_7
      @JesusChristDenton_7 22 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      Mass Effect.

    • @triviszla1536
      @triviszla1536 22 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      @@JesusChristDenton_7 Thanks, got that after watching. I'm here for the Star Wars content but like to support the content I don't know about as well!

  • @Jon_REDACTED
    @Jon_REDACTED 26 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Truly the final decision of the player is based both of their experience and their morals 🤔
    Comes down to how they view the world, how they interact with it, and how they perceive both it and themselves
    Just what would be the right choice given the gravity and weight the decision makes, we can speculate all we like but none of us would truly know the choice we will make unless we are in the scenario

  • @Apoc_Bone_Daddy
    @Apoc_Bone_Daddy 17 วันที่ผ่านมา

    The Sovereign speech will ALWAYS stick with me

  • @ebusive
    @ebusive 20 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    I still don't get why the Reapers didn't make a beeline to the Citadel to immediately take control of the Mass Relay system during ME3.

  • @user-ug6sm4nj9b
    @user-ug6sm4nj9b 29 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Well good thing that the reapers are now gone right… right?

  • @ramonsalvador6228
    @ramonsalvador6228 13 วันที่ผ่านมา

    They looked like ginormous bedbugs

  • @beskararmor7966
    @beskararmor7966 15 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    That stupid catalyst kid ruined the Reapers for me permanently.

  • @blakeharkness306
    @blakeharkness306 5 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Reading the output of a chat gpt response as the main crux of your TH-cam video blurs the lines between organic and synthetic cohabitation. Teetering on the brink of pure ease of use while also seeming utterly sophisticated, though prompted by a pivotal moment in the history, it also posed a moral dilemma for TH-camrs and TH-cam management alike. Aligning the organic creative process with the intense thoroughness of synthetic knowledge and bland use of sophisticated vocabulary in extraordinarily predictable patterns spelled the end of this TH-camr and any other who would simply read from the output of an ai.

  • @alargefarva4274
    @alargefarva4274 12 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Good thing the Reapers don’t make the Mass relays use the IFF system during the invasion. Resistance would be completely futile if you can’t retreat

  • @sentinelslayer8328
    @sentinelslayer8328 9 วันที่ผ่านมา

    29:30 nothing important was lost that day

  • @JesusChristDenton_7
    @JesusChristDenton_7 22 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    I can take them out. 😎

  • @Emanon...
    @Emanon... 23 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    Their reasoning: "To avoid inevitable conflict between organics and synthetics, we (synthetics) show up every 50.000 years and destroy all organics"
    Wait, what!? That's just outright stupid...

    • @MetaNerdzLore
      @MetaNerdzLore  23 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      watch the whole thing it was that obviously stupid you have to think u missed something. Each species is preserved in the Reaper, the alternative was species kept going extinct. Think like all the other homo genus like Neanderthal that are extinct, they live on in our DNA, but if you wanted to preserve them you would have needed to step in to prevent homo sapiens absorbing them. They also do not destroy all organics, they take only the most technologically advanced ones, that are on the cusp of developing AIs that could make them go extinct.

    • @KeytarArgonian
      @KeytarArgonian 21 วันที่ผ่านมา

      You say that, but the Reaper program runs successfully for a billion years. It can’t be all that bad a plan.

  • @xJAKEx117x
    @xJAKEx117x 13 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I have always wondered... Since the Rachni Wars were going on around the time of the Roman Empire, what if they had worked and Sovereign had weakened the galaxy enough to end the cycle then... The Salarians, Turians, Asari, and Krogan wouldn't be around anymore... But humanity would then have the next 50,000 years to do their thing. Even though the Reapers would have corrected the genetic modification of the Keepers and gained full control of the Citadel, Humanity would still have a ridiculously long time to work through things and most likely come across evidence of the Reapers to some effect pretty early on. Although I guess that's what Sovereign's presence is for, to watch and make sure that no organic civilization has enough time to truly pose a threat. So maybe my hypothetical cycle wouldn't be allowed to last very long haha.

  • @sargepent9815
    @sargepent9815 14 วันที่ผ่านมา

    What's WILD is if you think of how many times the reapers harvested the galaxy in the billion or so years since the first harvest of Harbinger. Even giving them a million years to build the relays and ect, if they conducted the harvest an average of every 50k years, there have been about 20,000 "cycles"

  • @ionic_archangel2655
    @ionic_archangel2655 12 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I hate the refuse ending because it’s like ow well guess I’ll die now but at the beginning of the game and three missions earlier from you speaking with the catalyst it’s established that the alliance have weapons that can kill reapers in one shot so how do we just lose? Also along with the havoc-h3 and thanex cannons we have the leviathan help us so they should also be helpful in making weapons to help kill the reapers so how do we just lose?

  • @squirrel6687
    @squirrel6687 2 วันที่ผ่านมา

    If this harvest creates more, when does saturation occur? As they are immortal, would their numbers eventually become too massive for a single galaxy to support?

  • @dreworyan5652
    @dreworyan5652 16 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Please help me remember the name of a game… it was a trilogy I believe where the guy fights alien invasion but becomes corrupted in the end??

    • @MetaNerdzLore
      @MetaNerdzLore  16 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

      Super Mario Bros.

  • @feralprocessor9853
    @feralprocessor9853 29 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Straight away, Harbinger is a snitch.

  • @jaegergames7042
    @jaegergames7042 28 วันที่ผ่านมา

    “Reapers”
    Sure, buddy.
    Sure.

  • @VelociraptorsOfSkyrim
    @VelociraptorsOfSkyrim 8 วันที่ผ่านมา

    There is a bit of Fanon in this video that significantly hurts it, imo.
    It is not _Element Zero_ technology that is the trap. It is very specifically the Mass Relays and the Citadel.
    We know this because the natives of the Andromeda Galaxy, completely outside of the Reaper Cycle, _still_ use Element Zero as much as the Milky Way Galaxy.
    For example, the Kett use Element Zero to create an Alcubierre drive. Angara, Kett, and Jardaan (Remnant) weapons all use Element Zero in their construction.
    Saying that using Element Zero is the Trap is like saying that using Gold, or Iron, in technology is a trap.

    • @MetaNerdzLore
      @MetaNerdzLore  8 วันที่ผ่านมา

      I wouldn't say that was fanon, that was just unclear or misspoken, I meant the element zero tech advancement. And getting everyone dependent on the mass relay system with the citadel as galactic hq. It is funny when u think how dependent we became that destroying them with the Reapers was seen as possible unacceptable, maybe you should go with becoming a reaper or altering all life in the galaxy lol.

    • @VelociraptorsOfSkyrim
      @VelociraptorsOfSkyrim 8 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@MetaNerdzLore Ah, apologies. That bit of Fanon is so pervasive, even now, it really refuses to die.
      And Agreed. The Reapers really were so insidious with how they set things up.

  • @frostbite1574
    @frostbite1574 18 วันที่ผ่านมา

    So how many endings are there again

  • @Ace-gi8pf
    @Ace-gi8pf 28 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    27:58 Don't think I missed you using the M-920 Cain you filthy casual.
    All jokes aside 2 shot-ing ending boss is never not funny.

  • @neoandroid8586
    @neoandroid8586 12 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I always chose Synthesis tbh

  • @PlainDoll
    @PlainDoll 2 วันที่ผ่านมา

    reaper yuga

  • @Ender7j
    @Ender7j 16 วันที่ผ่านมา

    How many new IPs release today with this kind of worldbuilding and psychology built into it?

    • @MetaNerdzLore
      @MetaNerdzLore  16 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      yeah it is crazy sad going over even just the original halo 1-3, and mass effect, tons of legit philosophy and want to work in real history and biology, playing with religious concepts as well

  • @dustybunny6716
    @dustybunny6716 29 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    Reapers terrifies me as much as a Tyranid hive fleet or Zerg swarm.

  • @haydennoble9253
    @haydennoble9253 26 วันที่ผ่านมา

    We’ll bang, ok?

  • @BaxterAndLunala
    @BaxterAndLunala 13 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Dude, it's Ilos. Ilos is the planet that those Prothean scientists took refuge on, Eos is the first planet to make habitable and colonize in Mass Effect Andromeda.

    • @MetaNerdzLore
      @MetaNerdzLore  13 วันที่ผ่านมา

      lol I know idk what that was, why Eos was even on the mind

  • @GeekyMagpie
    @GeekyMagpie 19 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Its weird that we never got a protheon reapers considering there was a human one

  • @daniell1483
    @daniell1483 16 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I really loved the Reapers as antagonists, as characters. ME3's color coded ending was very disappointing for such a fascinating fusion of angel and alien, of religion and science. I never thought of Reapers in the context of the Christian Resurrection, but it makes a lot of sense!

  •  15 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Reminds me of The Combine, Xenomorphs and Necromorphs. Nothing is original. Only inspired and differently executed.

  • @azzy9263
    @azzy9263 13 วันที่ผ่านมา

    FYI don’t put a red boarder around your thumbnails I thought I’d already seen this due that the red bar running across the bottom of video

  • @christopherdaniels2117
    @christopherdaniels2117 22 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Are the Reapers a play on the Dark Forest.

    • @KeytarArgonian
      @KeytarArgonian 21 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      Not entirely but the theory is semi touched on. Iirc between ME:2 and ME:3, or possible while Shepard was dead during 2 the citadel council made first contact with a brand new spacefaring race called the Raloi, an avian or bird-like race who had to wear enviro suits to protect them from avian influenzas. Anyway it’s super early in the contact. A small delegation visits the citadel between 2 and 3. When the Reaper war begins, they instantly decide they want no part in any of this. They flee home, and Destroy all their Satelites in orbit and their ships to try to hide from the Reapers. So for them, I fair to say the Dark Forest came true faster than for anyone else, and they tried to manifest it. I don’t think they would have been successful though, as they hit the news. Not much chance of hiding from the Reapers after that.

  • @guillermocaliz2488
    @guillermocaliz2488 22 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Games were great compared to now a days, wish they had better evil endings though. It felt shallow compared to good ending.

  • @tonesfreeman1769
    @tonesfreeman1769 20 วันที่ผ่านมา

    To control is a folly, to merge is to join, and, to have no effect is waste. So, option 1 - 'Destroy'. Great video, thanks.

  • @thrrax
    @thrrax 8 วันที่ผ่านมา

    A lot of the footage is so random... The Krogan mural drawings for example have nothing to do with the Leviathans, not even with the Protheans nor the Reapers. They evolved on their own, until they wiped themselves out. They regressed to a primitive species until they were uplifted by the Salarians.
    Anyway, if y'all are still playing ME3 MP (the OG, not the Legendary), you can find me there by the name of Thrrax.

    • @MetaNerdzLore
      @MetaNerdzLore  8 วันที่ผ่านมา

      it is the red orb seeming to radiate power that is seen in similar art, and thought to be an orb controlled by the Leviathans

    • @thrrax
      @thrrax 8 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@MetaNerdzLore It appears so, but the orbs used by Leviathans and Reapers are not red. And the Krogan never had contact with any of them, not even with the Protheans, so while it is possible, it's highly improbable that they would've have access to Levi tech and not being enthralled. Standing on the orb is what appears to be just another Krogan, probably a leader of some sort, who is the focus. The orb could be a representation of their sun.

  • @Slider93
    @Slider93 29 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    Reapers are probably the best AI-sci-fi thing.

  • @boomstick7506
    @boomstick7506 17 วันที่ผ่านมา

    31:40 I don't remember this scene

  • @xSARGEx117x
    @xSARGEx117x 6 วันที่ผ่านมา

    42:00 I bought the game day 1 and finished by day 3.
    After all those various side quests, different plots interweaving and branching outward, promising even more interesting endings for the next game.... Boy was I pissed to be confronted with TWO choices, both of which sucked ass.

  • @doc3087
    @doc3087 14 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    I'm still traumatized from andromeda and will never recover.

    • @thrrax
      @thrrax 8 วันที่ผ่านมา

      If you think you're traumatized by Andromeda, imagine working for EA and seeing how it looked in pre-alpha, testing the MP and then having your gf working on the project and telling you what crap they were doing with it. And then getting her deluxe copy, playing for 15 minutes and uninstalling it.