Codfish uses a technique much more similar to throat singing simply called “Throat Bass” in beatbox terms. It’s very common in beatboxing but he has some of the best control over it and his transitions are incredibly smooth. In some of his later performances he uses a technique called “Vibration Bass” that’s an additional subharmonic down.
Love the energy you bring to these videos! As others have pointed out, he's using throat bass for the bassline. While he's using air and vibration for the bass, the kick and snare are operating pretty much only through lip pressure. The snare is often called a spit snare, where you push a pocket of air through closed lips to achieve a sort of "spitting" sound. Since the pressure and air is built by opening your jaw (almost like you're chewing gum), you'll notice most beatboxers choose to do the snare on the left or right side of their mouth to make it easier. Essentially the bass is created by engaging the core and throat muscles, while the percussion takes place up at the mouth. Hope that helps clarify what's going on on that tightrope!
Some additional beatbox suggestions with interesting singing techniques to check out. Codfish - Swimming Like a Toad Stitch - Feels Like Nothing King Inertia - GBB21 Elimination Round Den - GBB24 Wildcard Gene Shinozaki - Metamorphosis River - My Way D-low - Sing a Little Harmony
10:23 "fry singing" is also called subharmonic singing and there are plenty of tutorials on it on youtube, you're actually using the first subharmonic which is an octave lower, but after a lot of practice you can get to lower subharmonics for example the second is an octave and a fifth lower than your normal voice! Very fun technique, though i don't think codfish uses it
Yes codfish uses regular throat singing, using his false cords. Also calling fry singing "subharmonic singing" is kinda misleading, because throat bass is also a subharmonic technique, so is vocalized chest bass, or litterally almost any vocalized bass.
@@SubHarmoniKz It's true that there are many other techniques that produce undertones or subharmonics but they are referred to by different names like kargyraa or just throat singing, but the technique that uses vocal fry by majority of people is just called "subharmonic singing" and when you look that phrase up you'll get videos of people using that technique, if they're using a different one they'll always make it known in the title
Love that you are into beatbox now it only seems natural with your love of the human voice. I’m excited to see you unlock yours more dude I love seeing people try to learn
your eyes by river is one of the craziest routines ive seen in terms of the things he can do with his vocals. hes an incredible vocalist on top of being an incredible beatboxer, i recommend you check him out!
3:10 no vocal fry. It's Mongolian throat singing(aka throat bass) is the correct technique. Vocal fry is a bit rare for bbxers though not unheard of. It's a bit too delicate for most people. 5:10 relaxed is a bit of a misnomer. Build the pressure, make the sound but don't keep the tension. Like flicking your finger, build pressure, release but don't keep it tense. Try to isolate drum sounds to occur almost independently from ur throat and breath. The "layering" effect benefits a lot from isolating. 7:00 spit snare, build PRESSURE within only ur mouth, nothing should come from the lungs. Release a little from the center of ur lips. Putting air in either of the lips is acceptable but I personally don't do either. Different mouths, different sounds, do whatever that works and is "easy" 7:35 the nasally sound is a requirement for punchy drum sounds I think, if anyone has any examples of drum sounds with less nasally voice pls tell me. 9:20 no f sound, you can't build pressure with an f sound 10:25 sry for repeating myself but this is not fry, throat singing is way easier technique-wise and doesn't feel as delicate. It is more demanding on ur voice tho so it is recommended to be careful. Consistency over long practice sessions with throat bass Ive been loving the reactions and will be continuing to try and answer any questions you have in future videos. ❤ Sorry if my writing was a little confusing. I'm not used to writing so much. Edit: throat bass does, in fact, use vocal cords.
Throat bass DOES use vocal cords, it' a mix of a note sung with normal voice, and the throat bass is an added distortion using the false folds to create an additional pitch 1 octave below the fundamental (voice). So yeah throat bass does use vocal cords along with false folds
6:58 what you were trying to replicate is called a spit snare most commonly, sometimes also referred to as BMG snare or clap snare. Plenty of good tutorials out there on it and can take a few hours to a few days to a few weeks to learn. One of the earlier sounds I picked up. Love how open you are to talking about this without knowing much and seeing what translates from your background.
Your throat singing has leveled up! Nice job man, really goes to show your dedication knowledge and interest. Not gunna thought you wer corny first video i saw but i was wrong and taking the wrong angle on viewing your vids, it was your passion and thats really come through for me now. So bravo sir.
Yup, it's throat bass. Exactly what you think it is. It's just Codfish has some of the best refined throat bass techniques in the entire world. I've been doing it myself for over a decade and I can't modulate it and pitch it like he can. He's truly very talented.
This is definitely the more thuvan throat singing-like technique. It's generally referred to as "Throat Bass" and is one of the more common bass techniques in beatbox. It takes lots of work to stretch the range, but most dedicated practitioners can get about an octave or more consistently.
Finally I'm in my opinion above average at creating interesting sounds with my exterior and interior face glad your diving into it very much worth the time
Great to see you appreciating Codfish and beatboxing in general. Another beatboxed 8 would recommend is Den. His voice is amazing and has some sick beats!
Love your commentaries! He does that spit snare by blowing a burst of air from only his mouth cavity while creating pressure between the lips. Would love to see more reactions like these! I recommend Gene Shinozaki next, crazy vocal control and melodic techniques. Much love
Hey Chris! I’m a couple days late to this reaction, but it’s still a great reaction! I have a couple notes here - particularly with 2 sounds Codfish is doing 1: You just got back from Indicator, so I think it’s natural to think Codfish’s bass is a Vocal Fry. Though, what he’s doing is commonly referred to as “Throat Bass” (you were kinda right with your demonstration at 3:04). It’s actually very similar to Mongolian Throat Singing… just trained and loosened to make it as agile as Codfish demonstrates. 2: That snare would be a bit of an anomaly for you - since it actually doesn’t use your throat at all. It’s what beatboxers call a “Spit Snare” - a snappy sound created just from the pressure of your own lips coming together. It’s a crazy and helpful sound, since you still have your throat to do for vocal purposes (or to breathe) while you do the sound. Can’t wait to see what you have in store for your next installment of beatboxing!! You’re knee-deep in the rabbit hole, but by the time you’re done, you’ll be completely submersed, lol.
The easiest way to explain the snare sound is trying to squeeze your lips together as tight as you possibly can, fill up your cheeks with air and try to force the air out in a quick small burst. If you hit the air pocket in your cheek with your hand you can accomplish a similar sound. After some development you move the air-pocket to be in the lower lip like codfish is doing (although this is only a personal preference, and different beatboxers will place it in either bottom lip, top lip, or both at the same time), and only use your face muscles to force the air out in quick bursts. Only using your lips means you can easily still hum at the same time.
Hi Chris! So happy cause you entered beatbox comunity! If you want to be amazed by some outstanding vocal techniques you shoul react to beatboxers like Zekka, Show-Go and Gene!
By the way he is using throat singing technique that is most smiliar to Mongolian one. You just have to practice it way too much to get it to his level! And the snare is called BMG or Spit snare. Big up! :D
YES! I am a huge fan of Show-Go so you got my +1 for the recommendation! Gene is an inspiration as well; sadly I am not familiar with Zekka's art but the name is known in the beatbox community! I also recommend the song "If only" by Hiss, River' , Colaps and Alexinho. It blew my mind when it came out! It's a beatbox accapella track!
12:00 for this type of percussion is no air flow from the lungs needed. That's why you can combine percussions with vocalizations. Try putting as much air as possible in your mouth by blowing up your checks and then create a small opening between your lips (optional: with a finger) while pressing them together. (like with a balloon squeaking) Then you can create the pressure by compressing air with tensing your mouth/tongue and create the opening by putting your upper lip slightly over then and pressing hard and still creating a small opening. Hope this explains it somewhat :D
The bass drum is a standard 'Boots and Cuts' style bass drum. Sort of a heavy b/p sound, really short. The snare is called a spit snare, it's all lips and pressure. You may not be able to do it. I am learning to do it now, and it has taken months of practice to get me anywhere near Cod's skill. If you can't do a spit snare, a standard snare is more of a 'pff' sound. His fry singing I'm pretty sure is false chords. I feel it on the front of my throat when I do it. Check out the South Park character Ned Garblanski. The bass and snare can both be done without breathing, leaving space for humming or fry humming over top. He actually doesn't do a very good job of hiding his breaths in this one. Many beat boxers you watch and can't tell when they are breathing. Some of the best beat boxers to check out: D-Low, Wing, Show-GO, Helium, King Inertia... So many more, but that is probably a lot to start. Great vids! Edit: I'm back.. I checked out you throat singing vid, and some other people throat singing. This seems to come naturally to me (if I'm doing it right). I start with a low, slow 'who', then constrict it right and find an oscillation really low in my throat. I think it is my true vocal cords. It resonates through my chest like some of the throat singers were saying, but I don't have much range. I can do this much higher though. Not quite as high a fry scream, but if feels like it is in the front of my throat, and can be nasally, though i can do it without engaging my sinuses. This resonates in my head, and I have much more range with it, getting pretty high even. I think this is what Cod is doing, but you would have to ask him.
hey chris, i think you’re absolutely correct about the “fry singing.” in CVT terms we’d say “sub-octave creaking”. i’ve been developing this for a while and what’s neat about it is that once you’ve really got it locked in, it can be used clear across the range including on very high notes without much modification to the posture. which is what allows it to be so agile!
While some bbxers use fry singing, codfish doesn't. He uses throat bass aka Mongolian throat singing. I personally find throat bass to be easier at being agile. If a bit straining when used a lot. U can go high with throat bass but it increasingly get more straining the higher u go
As a beatbox enthusiast for a while now, it's awesome seeing you dive into it! As others have said, the fry singing you talked about is generally called subharmonic singing, and is actually surprisingly uncommon in beatboxing. Indicator is one of the few I can think of off the top of my head. Also a little note on subharmonics: it's a term that really just refers to the effect when two frequencies interfere and result in a new, lower frequency, and it doesn't have to be vocally produced. Depending on the ratio of the original frequencies, you get different resultant frequencies, and it turns out it to create the inverse of the overtone series, with the first subharmonic being on octave lower, and the second being on octave and a fifth lower, as others have also explained. David Larson has some great videos explaining how it works, but be careful with the older ones because he's made corrections over the years. There are many vocal techniques that are technically a subharmonic, but the fry singing one is what people usually mean when they talk about subharmonics. (You'll quickly find that beatboxing terminology is very inconsistent and unclear, with many people saying the wrong things) The technique Codfish uses is the same as throat singing and not subharmonics, although you could use either and get a similar sound, it's just down to preference. It's called throat bass among beatboxers. As far as recommendations, DEN vs Zer0 | Moments I Had is amazing, and D-low | Sound Sketch is a really awesome freestyle (also a rare recommendation). Anything by D-low, Helium, Gene Shinozaki, Napom, and King Inertia is a safe bet. There are many, many more I could list, but I'm sure you'll hear about them all eventually. There is also a whole subset of beatboxing dedicated to loop stations, where you layer your voice in real time, often using effects to make it sound completely inhuman. It can sound entirely electronic, but it's all vocally sourced and then manipulated from there. There are also people, like Tom Thum (my personal favorite), who will just layer their voice with no electronic effects. I'd recommend holding off on loop station stuff until you're more familiar with traditional beatboxing though, since it's already such a deep rabbit hole to begin with. I hope that was informative, and good luck with your journey into the world of beatbox!
I forgot to note that you'll see "GBB" a lot, and it stands for Grand Beatbox Battle, one of the biggest events in beatboxing. The wildcard videos are entry submissions, of which only a certain number get to enter the actual competition.
Hi Chris, there is a book which might interest you it’s called mouth sounds and it’s by Fred Newman. It only has a small section on drums, but it has other instruments too and animal noises as well. 😂
I'm sure others have recommended his content but D-Low is an absolute giant of beatbox. He showcases a technique you might find interesting called ''Inwards bass'' pretty frequently in his tracks or battles. I can think of his ''If my bones are breaking'' video of the top of my head. You can also see him (and his opponent Zekka) perform absolute elite beatbox if you look into the SBX Kickback 2021 finals.
I've been learning a lot about developing my vocals with your videos in the last few months, I admire your way of teaching and giving clear examples on how different technics should actually feel. I'd love it if you could do a video about Danny Worsnop (Asking Alexandria) vocals, specially the acoustic version he did for the song Into The Fire!
11:35 What you asked here about the balance of "pressure on percussive sounds" and "delicacy and agility vocally": The way beatboxing works is that you never learn a Beat or melody as a whole. You first learn the different sounds used in the piece. So you can access these whenever you want. And then you put them together. This has two positive aspects: 1. You have the muscle memory to use whichever sound in whatever situation without thinking about it. 2. Mentally, you don't even think about whether you're using the correct pressure for this or that sound. Instead, you're only focused on how to string the sounds together
I'd recommend checking out King Inertia 🇺🇸 vs Helium 🇷🇺 | GRAND BEATBOX BATTLE 2021: WORLD LEAGUE | Round of Sixteen (1/8) You'll get two different styles in one killer battle!
I myself was pretty ignorant to beatboxing, but you open this rabbit hole up for me, so yeah thx . Oh and thanks letting me learn so many cool stuff about the voice in general. Another thing i realy would love you to hear one day, is the song Lxa ti-cia from the Ar Nosurge Game. I think its a good example what and how layering vocals can do for a song. All songs by Akiko Shikata are going realy wild in that aspekt. I never heard so many vocal layers sounding still that good. And her voice is a bonus. I realy hope i can throw you in a seccond rabbid hole. Not enough western people know about ar tonelico and ar nosurge unique songs.
Btw if you didn't know already that throat singing technique hes using is called "throat bass" it branches off into MANY other techniques that use the same fundamentals but with different muscles and stuff and one more thing you should check out "improver star sky" hes insanely talented and uses a variation of the throat bass called "inward bass" (you'll know it when you hear it)
The better you get at throatsinging the lower you can go in "velocity". I think it's regular tuvan, his tone is just so defined because he's a champ at this
If you're going down the beatboxing rabbit hole, you absolutely must check out stitch - Feels like nothing... The best polyphonic singing I've ever seen
Great perspective, Codfish is very agile as u decribe with the throat bass (not vocal fry, it is the same as kargyraa (mongolian throat singing but without worrying about changing overtones) . I have been learning it for the past few years, and essentially you have to train your throat muscles so that you can hold the 'tight' position of throat bass effortlessly. Im impressed by ur skill too.
3:14 isn’t kaguura that sounds much more like an over-breathing sub poly technique that people like Shield and I do, the fish is doing normal throat singing here 😁 it would make sense that that technique feels way less flexible because of the breath compression and lesser connection to nearby tissues like the superglottic folds that the throat singing relies on for those easy transitions between chest voice and the octave down.
I would like to shed some scientific light on codfish's throat bass and some other sounds. quick summary before the large wall of text: -Throat bass = 1st subharmonic false fold and normal vocalization (perfect octave below the fundamental note) -Vibration bass = 2nd subharmonic throat bass (perfect octave and a fifth below the fundamental note) -Chest bass = sound made vibrating the epiglottis (vocalized version called vocalized chest bass) -Inward bass = large group or inward vocalized (usually subharmonic) techniques all collectively called inward bass. -Subharmonic singing technique (specifically referring to the technique called that, not subharmonics as a whole) = subharmonics cause by a technique similar to fry (probably best to just search this one up) has no involvement of false folds or epiglottis. -Spit snare = the snare that codfish uses in the video. done by building up pressure in the mouth and tightening the lips until air forces itself out. Does not require exhaling and can be done while humming through the nose. -Humming technique = The technique that beatboxers use to be able to vocalize through the nose while the mouth is free to move, allowing them to make percussive sounds without interrupting vocalization. Throat bass (the double octave sound that codfish is using): this is a first subharmonic sound generated by normal vocalization and false fold vibration at a perfect fifth, which causes an undertone a perfect octave under the normal vocalization. This is essentially Mongolian kargyraa singing just without attempting to amplify overtones. There is no involvement of fry as far as I know. With practice, this technique has nearly as much agility as normal vocalization in chest voice. Vibration bass: this is the 2nd subharmonic version of throat bass. This technique results in a sound a perfect octave and a fifth below the normal vocalization. Much less agility than throat bass due to the sound being somewhat delicate to perform. Chest bass: (isn't mentioned in this video, but might be mentioned in comments or in future videos) This sound is also known in the bass singing community as growl or firebreathing. It is a sound produced entirely by the epiglottis at a low frequency without the involvement of subharmonics (to my knowledge). It is possible to vocalize at the same time, but due to the throat position necessary to create the sound, vowels are largely distorted. Inward bass: usually referring to a throat bass done while inhaling, but sometimes used to refer to any of the above sounds done inwards. Inward basses are usually very low in perceived pitch, but filled with many many subharmonics and overtones and anything that results in the clashing of these notes. Subharmonic singing technique (refers specifically to the technique called subharmonics not all subharmonic sounds): A technique prevalent in the bass singing community that has little usage in the beatboxing community due to the limitations in volume due to vocal fry being a requirement for the sound. This sound is done only using the true vocal folds and has no involvement from the epiglottis or false folds. The true folds vibrate at different speeds which cause a perceived pitch a set. This is a very complicated technique, it's probably best to just search it up on youtube. Spit snare (the staticky sounding percussive sound that codfish does): This sound is done by building up pressure in the mouth with tightened lips until air is forced out causing the staticky sound. Pressure is built up using only the air in the mouth without requiring exhaling or inhaling and can be fully hummed over without interruption using the technique in the paragraph below. Humming technique: as an extension of the previous paragraph, the humming technique (I don't know if it has an actual name) is the common technique in beatboxing in which one can hum and still have full control over the mouth. It's done by first learning how to hum (100% of vocalization is through the nose) while keeping the mouth open. This should allow someone to perform any sound that only requires air in the mouth (like a spit snare) while using any vocalization technique (like throat bass, vibration bass, or even inhaled sounds). On another note, in 99% of cases, percussive sounds should not be vocalized and should have as little additional air as possible (this also applies to the humming technique). The basic kick drum (often denotated as B) should be an unvocalized B sound with no audible air before or after the B sound. I just spend like an hour typing this and I'm not going to bother checking for any mistakes I made. If anyone wants to ask any questions, I'll try to respond though.
When it comes to the beatboxing lingo, the singing Codfish is doing here is called "throat bass", but its the same as the technique called "Kargyraa" from Tuvan throat singing. The vocal-fry approach would be closer to "subharmonic singing", but that one is generally not used by beatboxers all that much. Another 'similar' technique is called "chest fry" but outside the beatbox community ive seen it being referred to as "firebreathing" or "growling."
The snare he uses here is called a "spit snare" You actually landed another snare trying it. It's literally called a "PF snare" PF snares sound really great and you can even pitch them eventually👌 Just a "K" sound makes a super easy snare to begin with as well
Here are my top recommendations of Beatboxers to watch (No personal ranking, I am not that much in the scene, so I am definitely missing some, please help me out!) Beatboxer - Song names/ Video titles = What's special/ interesting for a vocalist (in my opinion; Disclaimer: I am not a vocalist myself) Show-Go - Silver, You're Gone, Jasmine GBB2021 Wildcard = sounds, technique and production is very clean, I love his compositions and style, fun vocal sounds like double-voice is fun to listen to Stitch - Feels like nothing GBB2021 Wildcard, Before I go = Only for his polyphonic voice it's worth watching stitch Gene Shinozaki - Metamorphosis, Hello = Great singing and vocal based sounds like his lip oscilation bass Codfish - Eyes on Fire, GBB Wildcard 2018 = Seemingless switching from throat singing to vibration bass to "regular" singing Trung Bao - Venom GBB Wildcard 2019, GBB World League Wildcard 2020 = I had a sensory overload after listening to these tracks, absolutely mindblowing Hiss, Gene Shinozaki, Napom - Fading = Acapella Beatboxing, Awesome production Hiss, Alexinho, Colaps, River' - If only = Acapella Beatboxing, Awesome production, great interplay between the melodies, addicting to listen to Jairo - GBB2023 Elimination, Begin by letting go = Beatbox Duo, amazing production, mindblowing arrangement and interplay/ harmony between the melodies Den - Feel it still GBB Wildcard 2021 = Great composition, interesting textures, quick changes from bass to falsetto sounds I am looking forward to see more beatbox videos, it's a very fun world to dive into! ^^
So, concerning the snare he's doing-- It's called a spit snare and is a VERY useful snare that many many beatboxers incorporate into their beats because: it's breathless. You don't need to use any air doing this snare, and can continuously hum or do your bass noises WHILE using the snare simultaneously. It only incorporates the lips as well, meaning it doesn't really affect vocal resonance besides having to close the lips. I won't try to explain it all in one comment, but there are plenty of tutorials around for it.
The snare Codfish does is called Spit Snare or BMG Snare. You can do it with a closed throat so you can breathe or do a melodie at the same time. Difficulty is 4 out of 10 so go ahead and try it :)
thanks for this video, you got a new subscriber! for next beatboxer i would recommend mb14 , he is also a extremely talented singer, but he's best videos is the ones he is using a loop station
Codfish uses throat singing, indicator uses a different technique with vocal fry. There are a lot of different vocal bass techniques in the world of beatbox, some examples and the best known are: throat bass (throat singing), Vibration bass (which also uses codfish) and inward bass
do an analysis on Bigman Window beatbox version! He has the best arpeggios in the beatboxing scene, and is a master in the transition of throat bass into singing, or normal voice.
Before I even watch this, I'd watch some of D-low (Dan Lowes) videos, he's a professional who does a pretty gopd job of explaining terms and techniques when he watches others beatbox✌️
@@chrisliepe Ooo, awesome, cant wait to see what you think! Off the top of my head I remember him talking about it alot in his reaction to Ale - Lost in the forest (th-cam.com/video/OK-s_7LrBXU/w-d-xo.html), Taras Stanin (th-cam.com/video/qa6HN6do384/w-d-xo.html), and last but not least his 30 bass(both vocal and non-vocal) th-cam.com/video/qa6HN6do384/w-d-xo.html I'll add more if I think of/find anything else, but he's done alooot of beatbox-watching content, especially since he's a judge in alog of international beatbox competition! Really awesome to see you dive into this world, its a really freed creative mindset, with a completely different way of building up music imo. PS: My favourite beatbox piece ever is Wing - Habanera :D
10:38 that's wrong bro, we used troath to do that. It's called Throat Bass and you need to check out this. There is a much variation of this sound and those called like Inward Bass, you have to inhale to do that. Vibration Bass, It's simular to throat bass but much harder than throat bass. Chest Bass, you have to use your chest to do that. those are incredible sound for human. I can do all bass sound and It's felt so good.
This could also be a really cool subway into subharmonics. David Kahn and David Larson might have some cool insights there. On an unrelated note: Would you consider implementing an uncompressed "in the room sound"-shot/mic into future lessons? I'm asking, because in my opinion in-person-lessons have one major benefit besides the interaction: students can more accurately access the different intensity different vocalizations tend to possess. Getting a sense for talking volume vs belting volume vs screaming volume etc. could elevate our understanding of what you're doing. And subsequently aid in feeling things out in our own voices. Lemme know if I'm ringing off the hook here, but it sounds reasonable in my head haha. Cheers, Dominik
If you think codfish is good, you should definitely do an analysis on Bigman. He's a beatboxer too. He is known in the beatboxing community for his singing. The video you should check out from him is his own original song, "the window". By the way, welcome to the beatbox community
David Larson has been a huge Subharmonics ambassador on TH-cam. He did not invent it but taught and inspired a lot of bassists to use the technique to sing lower. It takes a while to become agile and reach lower subharmonic series. Don't think he is using subharmonics tho.
The way I tend to tell people how to do Codfish style throat bass is to clear your throat, find and hold the vibration of that, and then vocalize it. this will likely hurt if done for extended periods at first.
Hey Chris :) Nice video. Could you maybe analyse "SHOW-GO - Silver (Beatbox)" or "Mad Twinz - Brighter" aswell? One of the most amazing things to me regardings beatbox and really brought me into liking it a lot more. Just wiked flow, consistency and the weird feeling of unhuman sounds
you need to react to a beatboxer by the name of Show-go, his flows are unreal and so much different then others! I think you would enjoy listening to his gbb wildcard submission, Please check it out!!
Welcome to the beatbox world. This is a pretty old video to be honest and the scene has developed SO much. Watch Stitch-Feels like nothing or CodFish-Swimming like a toad. Also, the King Inertia GBB 2021 Elimination and D-Low Kickback Battle compilation
For percussion while singing Beatboxers learn to do some percussion sounds just with mouth muscles and not pushing any additional air from the lungs, which is why it doesn’t disrupt the vocal quality. But some percussion does use more air and is usually done between sung notes or on the onset of the note. But keeping the percussion consistent throughout the listener doesn’t notice the shift.
After trying to get the same sound I'd say it's throat singing, but really softly dialed in - it's basically the same thing as dialing in fry, but with throat singing - I think if it was fry, the bass note would not have such a clean dark sound
Is the deep vocal fry considered throat singing? Meaning is that the placement? I can get the low fry but changing pitch it falls out immediately 😂 oh and BTW Chris, I'm 99% sure I'll be traveling again to lake Havasu AZ this winter so I should be hooking up with yall again. Definitely playing some gigs while I'm out there, and your mixed placement video just made me find mixed voice. Finally!! And my head voice is coming thru nicely as well, thanks to you😊
the beatbox community, it seems is calling it subharmonics, I've been calling it "fry singing" ... It's different than the Will Ramos, false cord thing, but I'm enjoying playing with it. Gonna be great to see you again and work with you again soon! Until then! ... :)
More beatboxers to check out is Taras Stanin, Improver and Helium. They're all Russian and are generating a new genre of not beatboxing per se, but as a music genre in it's own right
Pls react Gabriel Henrique feat Kevs ( Love in the Dark ) Spanish version. The 2 of them together there's nothing like it.. The harmony its out of this world
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Codfish uses a technique much more similar to throat singing simply called “Throat Bass” in beatbox terms. It’s very common in beatboxing but he has some of the best control over it and his transitions are incredibly smooth. In some of his later performances he uses a technique called “Vibration Bass” that’s an additional subharmonic down.
Ahahaaa Chris watching beatbox😍😍 welcome to the family🔥 try stitch - feels like nothing and you will just be blown by literal polyphonic singing
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i love all the recognition I see Stitch getting. Itd be great to see him do a video with Chris like he did with Lolli, The Fairy Voice Mother.
I'm learning singing on my own, with Chris Tutorial Videos xD Hy Kristóf , + I reccomend River' My way or any River' recent track also.
I think a collab with a beatboxer showing you learning beatboxing would be incredibly fascinating!
me too!
@@chrisliepe I recommend reaching out to stitch, he also made a collab with the fairy voice mother
I recommend Tom thum
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@@chrisliepe I recommend d low
Love the energy you bring to these videos! As others have pointed out, he's using throat bass for the bassline. While he's using air and vibration for the bass, the kick and snare are operating pretty much only through lip pressure. The snare is often called a spit snare, where you push a pocket of air through closed lips to achieve a sort of "spitting" sound. Since the pressure and air is built by opening your jaw (almost like you're chewing gum), you'll notice most beatboxers choose to do the snare on the left or right side of their mouth to make it easier. Essentially the bass is created by engaging the core and throat muscles, while the percussion takes place up at the mouth. Hope that helps clarify what's going on on that tightrope!
Some additional beatbox suggestions with interesting singing techniques to check out.
Codfish - Swimming Like a Toad
Stitch - Feels Like Nothing
King Inertia - GBB21 Elimination Round
Den - GBB24 Wildcard
Gene Shinozaki - Metamorphosis
River - My Way
D-low - Sing a Little Harmony
I second all of these. This codfish video is a classic but it's fairly old at this point and all of these represent the state of beatbox better.
enel goes hard btw
River-Ourselves
10:23 "fry singing" is also called subharmonic singing and there are plenty of tutorials on it on youtube, you're actually using the first subharmonic which is an octave lower, but after a lot of practice you can get to lower subharmonics for example the second is an octave and a fifth lower than your normal voice! Very fun technique, though i don't think codfish uses it
thank you!!
Yes codfish uses regular throat singing, using his false cords. Also calling fry singing "subharmonic singing" is kinda misleading, because throat bass is also a subharmonic technique, so is vocalized chest bass, or litterally almost any vocalized bass.
@@SubHarmoniKz It's true that there are many other techniques that produce undertones or subharmonics but they are referred to by different names like kargyraa or just throat singing, but the technique that uses vocal fry by majority of people is just called "subharmonic singing" and when you look that phrase up you'll get videos of people using that technique, if they're using a different one they'll always make it known in the title
@@imGHTmn yeah i know, i was just adding my nerdy note like "aktchually ☝🤓" lol
Love that you are into beatbox now it only seems natural with your love of the human voice. I’m excited to see you unlock yours more dude I love seeing people try to learn
your eyes by river is one of the craziest routines ive seen in terms of the things he can do with his vocals. hes an incredible vocalist on top of being an incredible beatboxer, i recommend you check him out!
Daaaamn! That base of yours sound incredible🎉
3:10 no vocal fry. It's Mongolian throat singing(aka throat bass) is the correct technique. Vocal fry is a bit rare for bbxers though not unheard of. It's a bit too delicate for most people.
5:10 relaxed is a bit of a misnomer. Build the pressure, make the sound but don't keep the tension. Like flicking your finger, build pressure, release but don't keep it tense.
Try to isolate drum sounds to occur almost independently from ur throat and breath. The "layering" effect benefits a lot from isolating.
7:00 spit snare, build PRESSURE within only ur mouth, nothing should come from the lungs. Release a little from the center of ur lips. Putting air in either of the lips is acceptable but I personally don't do either. Different mouths, different sounds, do whatever that works and is "easy"
7:35 the nasally sound is a requirement for punchy drum sounds I think, if anyone has any examples of drum sounds with less nasally voice pls tell me.
9:20 no f sound, you can't build pressure with an f sound
10:25 sry for repeating myself but this is not fry, throat singing is way easier technique-wise and doesn't feel as delicate. It is more demanding on ur voice tho so it is recommended to be careful. Consistency over long practice sessions with throat bass
Ive been loving the reactions and will be continuing to try and answer any questions you have in future videos. ❤
Sorry if my writing was a little confusing. I'm not used to writing so much.
Edit: throat bass does, in fact, use vocal cords.
Throat bass DOES use vocal cords, it' a mix of a note sung with normal voice, and the throat bass is an added distortion using the false folds to create an additional pitch 1 octave below the fundamental (voice). So yeah throat bass does use vocal cords along with false folds
@@SubHarmoniKz after testing my voice a bit I can feel that you're correct, appreciate the knowledge my man.
6:58 what you were trying to replicate is called a spit snare most commonly, sometimes also referred to as BMG snare or clap snare. Plenty of good tutorials out there on it and can take a few hours to a few days to a few weeks to learn. One of the earlier sounds I picked up. Love how open you are to talking about this without knowing much and seeing what translates from your background.
Your throat singing has leveled up! Nice job man, really goes to show your dedication knowledge and interest. Not gunna thought you wer corny first video i saw but i was wrong and taking the wrong angle on viewing your vids, it was your passion and thats really come through for me now. So bravo sir.
Yup, it's throat bass. Exactly what you think it is. It's just Codfish has some of the best refined throat bass techniques in the entire world. I've been doing it myself for over a decade and I can't modulate it and pitch it like he can. He's truly very talented.
He actually has some new covers he came out with recently that he sings a lot more and you can see he has gotten better! 💪
Welcome to Beatboxing Community 🤍🤍🤍 really loves ur reaction, pls make more videos of Beatboxing
This is definitely the more thuvan throat singing-like technique. It's generally referred to as "Throat Bass" and is one of the more common bass techniques in beatbox. It takes lots of work to stretch the range, but most dedicated practitioners can get about an octave or more consistently.
Finally I'm in my opinion above average at creating interesting sounds with my exterior and interior face glad your diving into it very much worth the time
The snare you were trying to do is called the Spit Snare and it is actually pretty hard to realise !
Oh dude here we go 🔥
Great to see you appreciating Codfish and beatboxing in general. Another beatboxed 8 would recommend is Den. His voice is amazing and has some sick beats!
I will recommend bigman , specially his the window (beatbox ver.) Or gbb23 wildcard its just gorgeous
this channel is perfect, i love beatbox and drive/fry vocal techniques lol
🤯 wtf is this?😮I feel like I’ve stepped into an alternate universe…and I love it! 😊
Have fun
You're curiosity for new things is seriously infectious! Thank you! Great reaction!
Love your commentaries! He does that spit snare by blowing a burst of air from only his mouth cavity while creating pressure between the lips.
Would love to see more reactions like these! I recommend Gene Shinozaki next, crazy vocal control and melodic techniques. Much love
the snare is whats called a spit snare and is directing air very tight through the lips, there are a lot of tutorials on the sound
The snare he is using is called a spit snare, and it is from compressing ur lips really tightly and the letting out some air you get this sorta sound
Hey Chris! I’m a couple days late to this reaction, but it’s still a great reaction!
I have a couple notes here - particularly with 2 sounds Codfish is doing
1: You just got back from Indicator, so I think it’s natural to think Codfish’s bass is a Vocal Fry. Though, what he’s doing is commonly referred to as “Throat Bass” (you were kinda right with your demonstration at 3:04). It’s actually very similar to Mongolian Throat Singing… just trained and loosened to make it as agile as Codfish demonstrates.
2: That snare would be a bit of an anomaly for you - since it actually doesn’t use your throat at all. It’s what beatboxers call a “Spit Snare” - a snappy sound created just from the pressure of your own lips coming together. It’s a crazy and helpful sound, since you still have your throat to do for vocal purposes (or to breathe) while you do the sound.
Can’t wait to see what you have in store for your next installment of beatboxing!! You’re knee-deep in the rabbit hole, but by the time you’re done, you’ll be completely submersed, lol.
Codfish has only leveled up since then ;) what he does is called throat bass, there are a couple tutorials maybe check a couple of then :P
The tightness he's doing with his lips to make the snare is called a BMG/spit snare. Great video keep it up ✌
The easiest way to explain the snare sound is trying to squeeze your lips together as tight as you possibly can, fill up your cheeks with air and try to force the air out in a quick small burst. If you hit the air pocket in your cheek with your hand you can accomplish a similar sound. After some development you move the air-pocket to be in the lower lip like codfish is doing (although this is only a personal preference, and different beatboxers will place it in either bottom lip, top lip, or both at the same time), and only use your face muscles to force the air out in quick bursts. Only using your lips means you can easily still hum at the same time.
Funny, I can see people filling their cheeks, but my cheeks are pulled in tight.
@@keithkarnage yeah, its more of a "beginner friendly" way to understand the mechanism
two legends! love you mate
Hi Chris! So happy cause you entered beatbox comunity! If you want to be amazed by some outstanding vocal techniques you shoul react to beatboxers like Zekka, Show-Go and Gene!
By the way he is using throat singing technique that is most smiliar to Mongolian one. You just have to practice it way too much to get it to his level! And the snare is called BMG or Spit snare. Big up! :D
YES! I am a huge fan of Show-Go so you got my +1 for the recommendation! Gene is an inspiration as well; sadly I am not familiar with Zekka's art but the name is known in the beatbox community!
I also recommend the song "If only" by Hiss, River' , Colaps and Alexinho. It blew my mind when it came out! It's a beatbox accapella track!
@@WitchKing99 Zekka made an absolute banger in Kickback Battle championship, the first round! Check it out!
@@dovlabeatbox3041 I couldn't find it so I watched the full 2021 SBX Runner Up Compilation. Great Stuff, thanks for recommending it! ^^
@@dovlabeatbox3041 I could not find it so I watched the full SBX 2021 Runnerup compilation. Great Stuff, thanks for the recommendation! ^^
12:00 for this type of percussion is no air flow from the lungs needed. That's why you can combine percussions with vocalizations.
Try putting as much air as possible in your mouth by blowing up your checks and then create a small opening between your lips (optional: with a finger) while pressing them together. (like with a balloon squeaking)
Then you can create the pressure by compressing air with tensing your mouth/tongue and create the opening by putting your upper lip slightly over then and pressing hard and still creating a small opening.
Hope this explains it somewhat :D
Yes! Thank you!
The bass drum is a standard 'Boots and Cuts' style bass drum. Sort of a heavy b/p sound, really short. The snare is called a spit snare, it's all lips and pressure. You may not be able to do it. I am learning to do it now, and it has taken months of practice to get me anywhere near Cod's skill. If you can't do a spit snare, a standard snare is more of a 'pff' sound. His fry singing I'm pretty sure is false chords. I feel it on the front of my throat when I do it. Check out the South Park character Ned Garblanski. The bass and snare can both be done without breathing, leaving space for humming or fry humming over top. He actually doesn't do a very good job of hiding his breaths in this one. Many beat boxers you watch and can't tell when they are breathing. Some of the best beat boxers to check out: D-Low, Wing, Show-GO, Helium, King Inertia... So many more, but that is probably a lot to start. Great vids!
Edit: I'm back.. I checked out you throat singing vid, and some other people throat singing. This seems to come naturally to me (if I'm doing it right). I start with a low, slow 'who', then constrict it right and find an oscillation really low in my throat. I think it is my true vocal cords. It resonates through my chest like some of the throat singers were saying, but I don't have much range. I can do this much higher though. Not quite as high a fry scream, but if feels like it is in the front of my throat, and can be nasally, though i can do it without engaging my sinuses. This resonates in my head, and I have much more range with it, getting pretty high even. I think this is what Cod is doing, but you would have to ask him.
Most beatbox tutorials describe it as like when you clear your throat and then extends that sound.
Oh... Beatbox is very interesting from perspective of singer. My favorite beatbox cover is "ZHU - Faded (Beatbox Cover By Improver & Taras Stanin)"
hey chris, i think you’re absolutely correct about the “fry singing.” in CVT terms we’d say “sub-octave creaking”. i’ve been developing this for a while and what’s neat about it is that once you’ve really got it locked in, it can be used clear across the range including on very high notes without much modification to the posture. which is what allows it to be so agile!
While some bbxers use fry singing, codfish doesn't. He uses throat bass aka Mongolian throat singing. I personally find throat bass to be easier at being agile. If a bit straining when used a lot. U can go high with throat bass but it increasingly get more straining the higher u go
Napom - Roll Like This. Classic
As a beatbox enthusiast for a while now, it's awesome seeing you dive into it! As others have said, the fry singing you talked about is generally called subharmonic singing, and is actually surprisingly uncommon in beatboxing. Indicator is one of the few I can think of off the top of my head.
Also a little note on subharmonics: it's a term that really just refers to the effect when two frequencies interfere and result in a new, lower frequency, and it doesn't have to be vocally produced. Depending on the ratio of the original frequencies, you get different resultant frequencies, and it turns out it to create the inverse of the overtone series, with the first subharmonic being on octave lower, and the second being on octave and a fifth lower, as others have also explained. David Larson has some great videos explaining how it works, but be careful with the older ones because he's made corrections over the years. There are many vocal techniques that are technically a subharmonic, but the fry singing one is what people usually mean when they talk about subharmonics. (You'll quickly find that beatboxing terminology is very inconsistent and unclear, with many people saying the wrong things)
The technique Codfish uses is the same as throat singing and not subharmonics, although you could use either and get a similar sound, it's just down to preference. It's called throat bass among beatboxers.
As far as recommendations, DEN vs Zer0 | Moments I Had is amazing, and D-low | Sound Sketch is a really awesome freestyle (also a rare recommendation). Anything by D-low, Helium, Gene Shinozaki, Napom, and King Inertia is a safe bet. There are many, many more I could list, but I'm sure you'll hear about them all eventually.
There is also a whole subset of beatboxing dedicated to loop stations, where you layer your voice in real time, often using effects to make it sound completely inhuman. It can sound entirely electronic, but it's all vocally sourced and then manipulated from there. There are also people, like Tom Thum (my personal favorite), who will just layer their voice with no electronic effects. I'd recommend holding off on loop station stuff until you're more familiar with traditional beatboxing though, since it's already such a deep rabbit hole to begin with.
I hope that was informative, and good luck with your journey into the world of beatbox!
I forgot to note that you'll see "GBB" a lot, and it stands for Grand Beatbox Battle, one of the biggest events in beatboxing. The wildcard videos are entry submissions, of which only a certain number get to enter the actual competition.
Hi Chris, there is a book which might interest you it’s called mouth sounds and it’s by Fred Newman. It only has a small section on drums, but it has other instruments too and animal noises as well. 😂
I'm sure others have recommended his content but D-Low is an absolute giant of beatbox. He showcases a technique you might find interesting called ''Inwards bass'' pretty frequently in his tracks or battles. I can think of his ''If my bones are breaking'' video of the top of my head. You can also see him (and his opponent Zekka) perform absolute elite beatbox if you look into the SBX Kickback 2021 finals.
I've been learning a lot about developing my vocals with your videos in the last few months, I admire your way of teaching and giving clear examples on how different technics should actually feel. I'd love it if you could do a video about Danny Worsnop (Asking Alexandria) vocals, specially the acoustic version he did for the song Into The Fire!
11:35 What you asked here about the balance of "pressure on percussive sounds" and "delicacy and agility vocally":
The way beatboxing works is that you never learn a Beat or melody as a whole. You first learn the different sounds used in the piece. So you can access these whenever you want.
And then you put them together. This has two positive aspects:
1. You have the muscle memory to use whichever sound in whatever situation without thinking about it.
2. Mentally, you don't even think about whether you're using the correct pressure for this or that sound. Instead, you're only focused on how to string the sounds together
Great tips! thank you!
I'd recommend checking out King Inertia 🇺🇸 vs Helium 🇷🇺 | GRAND BEATBOX BATTLE 2021: WORLD LEAGUE | Round of Sixteen (1/8)
You'll get two different styles in one killer battle!
Codfish is the goat! Would love to see you react to him more
I myself was pretty ignorant to beatboxing, but you open this rabbit hole up for me, so yeah thx . Oh and thanks letting me learn so many cool stuff about the voice in general.
Another thing i realy would love you to hear one day, is the song Lxa ti-cia from the Ar Nosurge Game. I think its a good example what and how layering vocals can do for a song. All songs by Akiko Shikata are going realy wild in that aspekt. I never heard so many vocal layers sounding still that good. And her voice is a bonus. I realy hope i can throw you in a seccond rabbid hole. Not enough western people know about ar tonelico and ar nosurge unique songs.
Btw if you didn't know already that throat singing technique hes using is called "throat bass" it branches off into MANY other techniques that use the same fundamentals but with different muscles and stuff and one more thing you should check out "improver star sky" hes insanely talented and uses a variation of the throat bass called "inward bass" (you'll know it when you hear it)
Inward bass is basically an inward chest bass and not using the false folds like with throat bass just fyi!
The better you get at throatsinging the lower you can go in "velocity".
I think it's regular tuvan, his tone is just so defined because he's a champ at this
If you're going down the beatboxing rabbit hole, you absolutely must check out stitch - Feels like nothing... The best polyphonic singing I've ever seen
Great perspective, Codfish is very agile as u decribe with the throat bass (not vocal fry, it is the same as kargyraa (mongolian throat singing but without worrying about changing overtones) . I have been learning it for the past few years, and essentially you have to train your throat muscles so that you can hold the 'tight' position of throat bass effortlessly. Im impressed by ur skill too.
Codfish will be in the us at the end of the year, you two can maybe make a collab.
3:14 isn’t kaguura that sounds much more like an over-breathing sub poly technique that people like Shield and I do, the fish is doing normal throat singing here 😁 it would make sense that that technique feels way less flexible because of the breath compression and lesser connection to nearby tissues like the superglottic folds that the throat singing relies on for those easy transitions between chest voice and the octave down.
I would like to shed some scientific light on codfish's throat bass and some other sounds.
quick summary before the large wall of text:
-Throat bass = 1st subharmonic false fold and normal vocalization (perfect octave below the fundamental note)
-Vibration bass = 2nd subharmonic throat bass (perfect octave and a fifth below the fundamental note)
-Chest bass = sound made vibrating the epiglottis (vocalized version called vocalized chest bass)
-Inward bass = large group or inward vocalized (usually subharmonic) techniques all collectively called inward bass.
-Subharmonic singing technique (specifically referring to the technique called that, not subharmonics as a whole) = subharmonics cause by a technique similar to fry (probably best to just search this one up) has no involvement of false folds or epiglottis.
-Spit snare = the snare that codfish uses in the video. done by building up pressure in the mouth and tightening the lips until air forces itself out. Does not require exhaling and can be done while humming through the nose.
-Humming technique = The technique that beatboxers use to be able to vocalize through the nose while the mouth is free to move, allowing them to make percussive sounds without interrupting vocalization.
Throat bass (the double octave sound that codfish is using): this is a first subharmonic sound generated by normal vocalization and false fold vibration at a perfect fifth, which causes an undertone a perfect octave under the normal vocalization. This is essentially Mongolian kargyraa singing just without attempting to amplify overtones. There is no involvement of fry as far as I know. With practice, this technique has nearly as much agility as normal vocalization in chest voice.
Vibration bass: this is the 2nd subharmonic version of throat bass. This technique results in a sound a perfect octave and a fifth below the normal vocalization. Much less agility than throat bass due to the sound being somewhat delicate to perform.
Chest bass: (isn't mentioned in this video, but might be mentioned in comments or in future videos) This sound is also known in the bass singing community as growl or firebreathing. It is a sound produced entirely by the epiglottis at a low frequency without the involvement of subharmonics (to my knowledge). It is possible to vocalize at the same time, but due to the throat position necessary to create the sound, vowels are largely distorted.
Inward bass: usually referring to a throat bass done while inhaling, but sometimes used to refer to any of the above sounds done inwards. Inward basses are usually very low in perceived pitch, but filled with many many subharmonics and overtones and anything that results in the clashing of these notes.
Subharmonic singing technique (refers specifically to the technique called subharmonics not all subharmonic sounds): A technique prevalent in the bass singing community that has little usage in the beatboxing community due to the limitations in volume due to vocal fry being a requirement for the sound. This sound is done only using the true vocal folds and has no involvement from the epiglottis or false folds. The true folds vibrate at different speeds which cause a perceived pitch a set. This is a very complicated technique, it's probably best to just search it up on youtube.
Spit snare (the staticky sounding percussive sound that codfish does): This sound is done by building up pressure in the mouth with tightened lips until air is forced out causing the staticky sound. Pressure is built up using only the air in the mouth without requiring exhaling or inhaling and can be fully hummed over without interruption using the technique in the paragraph below.
Humming technique: as an extension of the previous paragraph, the humming technique (I don't know if it has an actual name) is the common technique in beatboxing in which one can hum and still have full control over the mouth. It's done by first learning how to hum (100% of vocalization is through the nose) while keeping the mouth open. This should allow someone to perform any sound that only requires air in the mouth (like a spit snare) while using any vocalization technique (like throat bass, vibration bass, or even inhaled sounds).
On another note, in 99% of cases, percussive sounds should not be vocalized and should have as little additional air as possible (this also applies to the humming technique). The basic kick drum (often denotated as B) should be an unvocalized B sound with no audible air before or after the B sound.
I just spend like an hour typing this and I'm not going to bother checking for any mistakes I made.
If anyone wants to ask any questions, I'll try to respond though.
Hey Chris the octave drop when he is signing at is called poly sub bass, indicator has a video on it called Alien Bass Tutorial.
When it comes to the beatboxing lingo, the singing Codfish is doing here is called "throat bass", but its the same as the technique called "Kargyraa" from Tuvan throat singing. The vocal-fry approach would be closer to "subharmonic singing", but that one is generally not used by beatboxers all that much. Another 'similar' technique is called "chest fry" but outside the beatbox community ive seen it being referred to as "firebreathing" or "growling."
The snare he uses here is called a "spit snare"
You actually landed another snare trying it. It's literally called a "PF snare"
PF snares sound really great and you can even pitch them eventually👌
Just a "K" sound makes a super easy snare to begin with as well
Here are my top recommendations of Beatboxers to watch (No personal ranking, I am not that much in the scene, so I am definitely missing some, please help me out!)
Beatboxer - Song names/ Video titles = What's special/ interesting for a vocalist (in my opinion; Disclaimer: I am not a vocalist myself)
Show-Go - Silver, You're Gone, Jasmine GBB2021 Wildcard = sounds, technique and production is very clean, I love his compositions and style, fun vocal sounds like double-voice is fun to listen to
Stitch - Feels like nothing GBB2021 Wildcard, Before I go = Only for his polyphonic voice it's worth watching stitch
Gene Shinozaki - Metamorphosis, Hello = Great singing and vocal based sounds like his lip oscilation bass
Codfish - Eyes on Fire, GBB Wildcard 2018 = Seemingless switching from throat singing to vibration bass to "regular" singing
Trung Bao - Venom GBB Wildcard 2019, GBB World League Wildcard 2020 = I had a sensory overload after listening to these tracks, absolutely mindblowing
Hiss, Gene Shinozaki, Napom - Fading = Acapella Beatboxing, Awesome production
Hiss, Alexinho, Colaps, River' - If only = Acapella Beatboxing, Awesome production, great interplay between the melodies, addicting to listen to
Jairo - GBB2023 Elimination, Begin by letting go = Beatbox Duo, amazing production, mindblowing arrangement and interplay/ harmony between the melodies
Den - Feel it still GBB Wildcard 2021 = Great composition, interesting textures, quick changes from bass to falsetto sounds
I am looking forward to see more beatbox videos, it's a very fun world to dive into! ^^
So, concerning the snare he's doing-- It's called a spit snare and is a VERY useful snare that many many beatboxers incorporate into their beats because: it's breathless. You don't need to use any air doing this snare, and can continuously hum or do your bass noises WHILE using the snare simultaneously. It only incorporates the lips as well, meaning it doesn't really affect vocal resonance besides having to close the lips. I won't try to explain it all in one comment, but there are plenty of tutorials around for it.
The snare Codfish does is called Spit Snare or BMG Snare. You can do it with a closed throat so you can breathe or do a melodie at the same time. Difficulty is 4 out of 10 so go ahead and try it :)
Welcome to beatbox world hope u going more react 🫡🔥🌹
thanks for this video, you got a new subscriber! for next beatboxer i would recommend mb14 , he is also a extremely talented singer, but he's best videos is the ones he is using a loop station
Codfish uses throat singing, indicator uses a different technique with vocal fry.
There are a lot of different vocal bass techniques in the world of beatbox, some examples and the best known are: throat bass (throat singing), Vibration bass (which also uses codfish) and inward bass
do an analysis on Bigman Window beatbox version! He has the best arpeggios in the beatboxing scene, and is a master in the transition of throat bass into singing, or normal voice.
Before I even watch this, I'd watch some of D-low (Dan Lowes) videos, he's a professional who does a pretty gopd job of explaining terms and techniques when he watches others beatbox✌️
Oh cool! I filmed a video on d low but haven’t seen any of his explanations yet. Link some here?
@@chrisliepe Ooo, awesome, cant wait to see what you think! Off the top of my head I remember him talking about it alot in his reaction to Ale - Lost in the forest (th-cam.com/video/OK-s_7LrBXU/w-d-xo.html), Taras Stanin (th-cam.com/video/qa6HN6do384/w-d-xo.html), and last but not least his 30 bass(both vocal and non-vocal) th-cam.com/video/qa6HN6do384/w-d-xo.html
I'll add more if I think of/find anything else, but he's done alooot of beatbox-watching content, especially since he's a judge in alog of international beatbox competition!
Really awesome to see you dive into this world, its a really freed creative mindset, with a completely different way of building up music imo.
PS: My favourite beatbox piece ever is Wing - Habanera :D
thanx! nice one!
Can I suggest the weekend beatbox cover from taras stanin: I don't wanna know? Beautiful singing and beatboxing.
River - "My Way", it's a banger !
D-low is the #1 beatboxer to watch.
10:38 that's wrong bro, we used troath to do that. It's called Throat Bass and you need to check out this.
There is a much variation of this sound and those called like
Inward Bass, you have to inhale to do that.
Vibration Bass, It's simular to throat bass but much harder than throat bass.
Chest Bass, you have to use your chest to do that.
those are incredible sound for human. I can do all bass sound and It's felt so good.
This could also be a really cool subway into subharmonics. David Kahn and David Larson might have some cool insights there.
On an unrelated note:
Would you consider implementing an uncompressed "in the room sound"-shot/mic into future lessons?
I'm asking, because in my opinion in-person-lessons have one major benefit besides the interaction: students can more accurately access the different intensity different vocalizations tend to possess.
Getting a sense for talking volume vs belting volume vs screaming volume etc. could elevate our understanding of what you're doing.
And subsequently aid in feeling things out in our own voices.
Lemme know if I'm ringing off the hook here, but it sounds reasonable in my head haha.
Cheers,
Dominik
If you think codfish is good, you should definitely do an analysis on Bigman. He's a beatboxer too. He is known in the beatboxing community for his singing. The video you should check out from him is his own original song, "the window". By the way, welcome to the beatbox community
David Larson has been a huge Subharmonics ambassador on TH-cam. He did not invent it but taught and inspired a lot of bassists to use the technique to sing lower. It takes a while to become agile and reach lower subharmonic series. Don't think he is using subharmonics tho.
The way I tend to tell people how to do Codfish style throat bass is to clear your throat, find and hold the vibration of that, and then vocalize it. this will likely hurt if done for extended periods at first.
Hey Chris :) Nice video. Could you maybe analyse "SHOW-GO - Silver (Beatbox)" or "Mad Twinz - Brighter" aswell? One of the most amazing things to me regardings beatbox and really brought me into liking it a lot more. Just wiked flow, consistency and the weird feeling of unhuman sounds
Hello! Nice to see another person going down this deep rabbit hole. Try: Jairo - Blue Girl.
Have fun and keep up th BeAtBoX! 😎
you need to react to a beatboxer by the name of Show-go, his flows are unreal and so much different then others! I think you would enjoy listening to his gbb wildcard submission, Please check it out!!
Welcome to the beatbox world. This is a pretty old video to be honest and the scene has developed SO much. Watch Stitch-Feels like nothing or CodFish-Swimming like a toad. Also, the King Inertia GBB 2021 Elimination and D-Low Kickback Battle compilation
For percussion while singing Beatboxers learn to do some percussion sounds just with mouth muscles and not pushing any additional air from the lungs, which is why it doesn’t disrupt the vocal quality. But some percussion does use more air and is usually done between sung notes or on the onset of the note. But keeping the percussion consistent throughout the listener doesn’t notice the shift.
I think "Metamorphosis" by Gene Shinozaki would be a great next video, especially for a vocalist!
I'm interested in voice learning
You have to see codfish - eyes on fire
You should check out Show-Go and/or Wing. Their styles are vastly different from the ones that you've checked so far.
Wonder what he will think of "It's hard sometimes" from D-low...
It's vibration bass, i found it like when doing throat bass i relaxes my vocal cords to let them vibrate. Btw check Codfish - mystic man😁
More beatbox please
i think you should lookup at jene: no time. he is not very known but he is an incredible and very unique beatboxer
After trying to get the same sound I'd say it's throat singing, but really softly dialed in - it's basically the same thing as dialing in fry, but with throat singing - I think if it was fry, the bass note would not have such a clean dark sound
If you're looking for more beatboxers that cover known songs or melodies I heeeeeavily recommend checking out Wing - Habanera
Is the deep vocal fry considered throat singing? Meaning is that the placement? I can get the low fry but changing pitch it falls out immediately 😂 oh and BTW Chris, I'm 99% sure I'll be traveling again to lake Havasu AZ this winter so I should be hooking up with yall again. Definitely playing some gigs while I'm out there, and your mixed placement video just made me find mixed voice. Finally!! And my head voice is coming thru nicely as well, thanks to you😊
the beatbox community, it seems is calling it subharmonics, I've been calling it "fry singing" ... It's different than the Will Ramos, false cord thing, but I'm enjoying playing with it. Gonna be great to see you again and work with you again soon!
Until then! ... :)
@@chrisliepe ok cool, always something new to learn 😊 yep see you
Improver - felling good, check please
Yo if you want more videos ideas I recommend listening to kikuohana! Her voice is godly
Next you have to see "Bigman"
I hope to see your reaction to hiroyuki sawano attack on titan❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤
man, you`ve seen 1% of what beatboxers can do with their voice hahah
you should check out vibration bass, polyphonic voice, etc
Gene metarmorphosis plsss
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Would love to see you react to ZVD - Pressure | GBB 23
More beatboxers to check out is Taras Stanin, Improver and Helium. They're all Russian and are generating a new genre of not beatboxing per se, but as a music genre in it's own right
Pls react Gabriel Henrique feat Kevs ( Love in the Dark ) Spanish version. The 2 of them together there's nothing like it.. The harmony its out of this world
hello can you do the analysis of "be a flower" by ryokuoushoku shakai. Btw i love your videos