How To :: Badlands 2500# Wireless Winch MOUNTED SWITCH MOD
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- NOTE: This video still applies to winches with the new style solenoid box that the #63139 winch comes with! It uses the same style solenoid and wireless receiver as the #61840 shown in this video.
A VERY simple modification for the Harbor Freight 2500# Wireless-only winch that is a must. By following the video, you can add in an ON MOMENTARY-OFF-ON MOMENTARY switch in parallel to the wireless receiver and effectively add a hard-wire connection to your winch for added dependability. Losing your remote or a dead remote battery is a thing of the past.
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WARNING :: PERFORM THIS MOD AT YOUR OWN RISK!
Be sure to follow safety procedures; disconnect the battery before doing any service to any electric components. Always wear eye protection when welding or grinding. Keep fingers out of moving parts.
THIS WILL VOID ANY AND ALL WARRANTIES ON YOUR WINCH.
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For this mod, you will need:
On Momentary-Off-On Momentary switch
14/16 gauge wire
5x female blade connectors
3x male blade connectors
4x #10 ring connectors
Wire stripper/ crimping tool
Wire cutters
Philips head screwdriver
Silicon/ brush-on electrical tape
Paint markers or something to identify wires
Method based on this tutorial: www.hondaatvfor...
Check out group/mainemudmowers and www.ATLTF.com
10,000 views! - 6/6/2015 - Thanks guys!
I bought the 2500# Badlands winch to use with a Brimley Box Blade I already have for my John Deere X300 Lawn Garden Tractor. Since the Brimley Box Blade swiveled 360 degrees, and was hard to use snowplowing in reverse to see what you are doing. So I built a front frame mount on the JD x300 for the winch to mount too and the Brimley to connect together, so the winch was used to raise/lower the Brimley as a snowplow. I made the snowplow 21-inches height x 48-inches wide, by using a plastic barrel. The Brimley Box Blade is only 15" height x 37" wide normally. I then added a (2) 4" wide x 48" long scrap 1/4 plate steel to the plastic barrel for a snowplow cutting edge, which worked great. This is where I then followed the instructions in this video to add a momentary toggle switch to the dash of the JD X300 to use to raise/lower the plow blade. When I did this, I kept it wired so both the momentary toggle switch and the wireless remote both worked on the winch, but was sluggish or not enough power to operate winch. Note: I did have to rewire the red (+)/black (-) #10 wire from the battery to the winch [for more power] using an old jumper cable wires to carry the load easier to the winch. Then it work flawlessly. I live in Washington, Maine currently, where it has handled the winter 2017-2018 snows on a 300-foot long driveway; plus other areas. His video for the modification works very well and give 5-stars otherwise for his innovation. I hope this helps others. ShaRon K. kellysharon7579@gmail.com if you have any questions on my build too.
Lost the wireless remote to my badlands winch so started searchin youtube how to hardwire in a regular winch switch an your video was great for instructions an installation. Good video bud. Got my winch all set up this morning.
Exactly what my dad and I talked about this morning. He has a rhino 660 that he is putting a snow blade on and was worried about wearing gloves and using the remote. Now he can have both like you have it. Thanks so much and using a marker for each out put helped big time! I will update when we do the mod.
just picked one of these up open- boxed at HF for $30. Discovered the reason for the open box was no remote, lol, because I wanted to have this switch anyway. Found your MOST EXCELLENT and informative video. Thanks so much for taking the time. Dang, I freaking love TH-cam!!! :-{)}
Man, I'd love it if I could get open box winches. Good find!
Thank you so much man, thank you for showing us how to do it step by step. I put the same winch on the back of my 4 seater RZR but I been through 2 winches because the wireless part goes bad every time, so I bypass it like you did and bought the same switch from tractor supply, so now I don't have to worry about the wireless part because I have the switch now.
Thanks for the very detailed video. My remote on my 2500 quit working all together. This was just what I needed to wire mine.
Just wanted to say a big thank you for the great tutorial! It stopped me from having to continue to beat my head against the wall. I ended up just ripping the wireless components out of the solenoid box and using the wires that were running from it to wire the switch. Saved me having to pig tail everything. Thanks again!
Glad it worked for you! I've been removing all of my wireless units lately as well, since I no longer use remotes.
This was a lot easier than it looks in the video. I bought a KFI winch switch for $15 from Rocky Mountain ATV. Took me about an hour. I removed the rubber bushing and ran all through that hole and used silicon to seal it. Awesome video thanks
This was seriously a perfect how to video. I followed the steps you showed and everything went perfect. I will have to change out my switch. The one I got is just an on/off/on switch. Not a momentary. Guess I wasn’t paying attention when I bought the switch. BUT everything worked great. Thanks for an awesome video.
phannphukkingtazztik! Yesterday i was stomache sick trying to troubleshoot how to keep my 2500 from pulling my swing keel thru my sloops hull... from the UNCONTROLLABLE last rotation and a half. Today i'm sipping coffee dikkin' around on the web, and BOOM! you have helped me build a mountain, my friend. Thank you Keystone Motorsports you have no idea. I paused the vid, made a few printscreens and sent to phone, and i'm off to napa. Great video, and gutsy engineering to boot!
I just finished wiring my winch up by following these directions. Worked first try, I'm stoked. Great Video! Thank You for posting!!
Awesome to hear! Thanks for watching!
Don't worry about the video being long. I hate it when someone has a video like this that's way too short to be any help to anyone. Those people seem to get too excited to post a video that they forget that they can retry it and get a better video.
Excellent job. You explained that so well even I understood it. I am about to embark on this excursion. Thank you.
you should got the award for best informative video about badland winch!
Thanks! Means a lot!
agreed
Thanks!
glockman83 Yep. Made it easy to figure out what was going on.
Excellent video. I just purchased the winch and was wondering how to install it. Now I know! I did find a ATV Handle Bar Replacement Winch Mini Rocker Switch on eBay for $17 which should work out well. Now I'll have to head back to Harbor Freight for a mounting plate. Thank you!!
Just did this and it works great! I used an actual winch handlebar switch and it works perfectly. Thank you!!!!!
Thanks a lot! I finished your winch mod today and it works great! Others have to do this. I put my bad lands winch on the front rack of my Honda 3 wheeler big red 250cc 1986
Better hold on to that big red !
Gonna do this to mine tomorrow...got all the parts just need to do this then hook it to power to test it. Thanks for this video.
i guess mine is different... when wiring up the switch, i discovered the wire that goes to the middle leg on the switch...on my winch was a ground wire, not a power wire. so i tried using a jumper off the red power wire, it worked...once then did nothing untill i disconnection the wire from the switch and reconnected it, it worked again ...once, then i had to disconnect / reconnect the wire again.. so yeah, im going to stick with the remote for now.lol
ps ...on mine there is nolag at all while useing the remote, they must have fixed that on the new version winches.
excellent vid. just picked one up for my spare wheeler and wasn't crazy about the remote. definitely doin this mod when I install it. ur vid made it alot easier to do
My control unit was made a little different and didn't have the remote wire exposed but wired up the same. The remote is nice but makes snow plowing difficult. Good video helped a lot thanks!
+gsxr419 I heard from Redzz02 that they changed the wiring a bit. But yeah, remote sucks for plowing. Especially when you want to shake the blade off.
Awesome!! Thank you so much. I've got a plow on the front of my 4-wheeler, but with the remote I couldn't get the right height on the plow--due to the lag time. This solved the problem!! Thanks!
Thats exactly why I did it myself. Glad this helped!
I have been wanting to put this winch on my garden tractor... But I don't want remote control ...Thanks for showing how to do the mod !!!
Thanks tons! Had read up on this winch after seeing the cheap price and was discouraged to see that a lot of the remotes were failing. I will probably set mine up (F150) with those quick disconnects, and place one switch set where I can use it for dragging stuff in, and also build me a 12' cord (as a back up for the remote) for loading motorcycles.
+billmcgraw1959 I actually rewired this winch to the front, and put a new winch on the rear (this position) and made a remote for the new one. I found some small plastic boxes on ebay to hold the switch so it looks "professional", braided the wires and wrapped them in shrink tubing.
I did the mod you did but the only thing different is with the newer winch has the power located where the ground is on the older ones. thanks for making this video it really helps me out a lot
+Caison Uthe I modified a winch the other week and didnt even notice. Thanks for the heads up!
Thanks for an informative video!
My follow-up comment has nothing to do with your installation here, but it IS important. I couldn't help but notice the spring clip on the hook at the end of your winch cable should be on the INSIDE of the hook, not the outside. The purpose of the clip is to keep the hook on whatever it's hooked to.
Again, thanks for a good video! :-)
Yeah, the clips on these are kinda cheap and it ended up bending out of shape and wouldnt grab the hook anymore.
The safety clip bends first time you actually put a load on the winch. From then on its just annoying. I cut the rivet and removed it.
If you do your rigging correctly, you don't need the clip.
Geat Video! This solves the biggest problem with this winch!!
I installed it on my sawmill and boy howdy the anxiety not knowing how to get it to work. Now I can wire it up. Thanx.
Good info. I done this same mod on my daughters UTV this weekend.
You could use a 4-pin trailer connect and just use three of the wires. Good water tight connection. Also can fill connectors and or box with di-electric grease.
Ric Mullins that's a good idea. I actually am switching over to aviation style connectors which are more secure.
Super idea !!!
wow very detailed, enough to gain my subscription! I'm looking forward to watching all your videos. keep up the great work.
I have had this sitting in a box for 5 years. I am going to use it now and looking forward to this mod. My relay switches looking nothing like the ones in the video. Hope I can figure it out, Great video by the way
Check out @redzz02, he has a video on the old style winch.
I mounted my winch on a trailer hitch "stinger" extension with step. I never plan to use it for anything really heavy, mostly raising a 22 ft, 90 lb sailboat mast, which is a bit annoying to do without a second person to put in the rigging pins.
Having the extra switch at the winch will be handy.
Great information. I just bought one of these and was wondering how to install a switch. Thanks for the video!
thanks i checked out 25 vid and you were the only one that made sense
Thanks a lot dude! I have the same winch and my remote stopped working even though I put in two good batteries. I will be doing the same mod soon. Thanks for beating me to the punch...:)
I like having the option with the snow plow. Nice to have a switch and a remote.
Very good information. I put this on my Craftsman garden tractor with snow blower. I`m using the winch to lift it. The manual lift for it only raises a few inches. With the HF winch I can raise it about 6 or 8 inches.
TY, was just out walking the dog and picked one of these from the neighbor's trash. He was throwing out a HF drill press too. Some people just have all the money I guess. By a thing, use it, chuck it out. Idk. Im gonna put the winch on a zero turn that I get stuck sometimes in the mud by the lake behind my house.
These things are tough. Hopefully it works out for you.
Every time I would take extended ride in ATV I would test my remote and this winter it finally failed. When I press power the remote does not illuminate, now I do not have power to winch, unsure if it gets feedback and the light is the pairing, if so perhaps I do not have issue, anyhow I would like to have option to manually use the winch and this will help with that taking the testing phase from the project. Found set of 5 switches for $15 shipped on Amazon so will order those and start my project when they arrive. I had already bought some relays and if there were any distance involved i would recommend installing the relays close to controller and using a ground wire to trigger relays so no worries that the wires going up to switch could cause any issues with there being live wires, possibly unfused, that could touch a hot engine component, get bound by suspension or steering, get whacked by debri etc.. so since my winch and switches will be within a foot of each other I feel safe without those relays, but if others have distance, such as your using switch on cowl, I would recommend a pair of relays, 1 for in, 1 for out, they can be had similar price 5/15 off Amazon as well.. I use those to power on headlamps, fog lights, and other devices that pull current at distances or past hot components, engines/exhaust, of through sheet metal, firewall, cowl..
Actually the 2 relays, if large enough could replace entire controller... and an inline ANL fuse, or similar would protect circuit...
You'll find you don't need to do all that. You can control the winch by using the white and yellow remote receiver wire connections on the contactor with a momentary single pole double throw switch and connect the common to 12 volts. This also makes it easy to put limit switches in the system. For instance, I use the winch for my plow blade. Having put a limit switch on the retract keeps from overloading the winch and possible damage to it. You don't need that big of wire either nor a higher current rated toggle switch.
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That sounds exactly like what I did. Wire size is just what I had on hand.
Im doing the same thing for my atv.i was disappointed finding out they are wireless now.i bought the 1200lbs about 8 years ago to pull cars onto my tilt trailer worked great.the wireless was a separate option you had to buy if u wanted it back then.i did so i could be in the car as i pulled it on. what I found was that the signal was slow to connect n disconnect from the receiver so a bump would somtimes make it run to long.not good so on my atv i want a hard wired connection.also batterys in the remote will go bad or corrosion will get it.you may not realize it till you need it miles from help.
I suppose that you could intercept the white and/or yellow wires with snap action switches to set the limits for in and out. Thanks for the video.
Hi. do you have a actual wiring diagram of your winch? I have this switch, A Pica 5544PT and need to wire it, thanks again
Thanks for your help!. All worked out great.
Thanks 4 the video...lost my remote
THANKS you just saved me from buying a new winch! :)
Edit:it didn't work I'm still in progress with this mod
Xcellent vid !!
Did you make a bracket for the roller plate. ?
I bolted it straight down, but you can get brackets for around $5, which is what I use now
What size blade connector did you use to get both wires in there? Great video 👍🏻
I used standard 14-16ga connectors throughout.
If you traced the leads off the bar switch and wired them into the Badlands solenoid box as shown here it should work. As for if you can just hook up a winch to the existing solenoid box I'm not too sure but I don't see why it wouldn't.
So you had three wires for that momentary switch the power and then you're in and then you're out there's no extra ground cuz I seen you only have 3 wires coming out of that plastic box and also did you have to purchase a winch plate so your rollers on the front of the winch has somewhere to mount it to you know where the hook goes up and stops I don't know it's called kind of like a guide for your winch cable how does that amount must be out on a plate right cuz mine didn't come with a plate for that so you have to order that separately.
Yup, no ground as you are just making a circuit and not powering something.
I did start buying winch plates. The roller guide, or fairlead (hawse if using synthetic rope), mounts sooo much easier.
So where is the video you watched with the old style your post solenoid???
Google/ look up redzz02, he did a mod video on the old style winch.
Nicely done, Doug. I wouldn't want to rely on a stupid remote for this. One, Odds are good you're stting in the seat while winching- steering and keeping the throttle pinned so the charging system feeds the battery, and two- wouldn't it just SUCK to buried up to the floorbords in mud and have the remote battery go dead, or lose the damn thing in the mud? No way. I'd just set fire to it and walk away... :D
Keystone Builder So lets say I dont have the remote, what can I get rid of in the solenoid box so I wont get confused ?
I'm not totally sure, but I believe the small box with the green wire coming from it. That *should* only be the control for the remote.
Just make sure you know what you disconnect, so if something stops working you can replace it.
I removed the remote box last weekend. Just unhook it and wire in switch leads as shown.
That! Is exactly what I wanted to know. Now, I'll get one with my coupon. Cool! Thank you!
Thanks man! Exactly what I was looking for!!!!!!!
I have this winch with the remote. The battery in the remote seems to have died. I took the remote apart but only see the circuit board. I'm assuming the battery is behind it? Do you know how to change the battery in the remote?
With the buttons face down and screws up, they should be on the back of the board. They are about the size of a nickel, and under two holders. You may have to bend a tab up and use a small screwdriver to slide them out. It uses two 3V CR20132 batteries.
I got them replaced. thanks for the info. it was very helpful.
Glad to hear!
can you wire this to where it will still allow you to use the wireless remote and/or handlebar switch without switching wiring on the trail?
Yup. Wireless remote will still work as normal. All you did was wire a switch in parallel.
if your atv already has the old in/out switch on the bars and the breaker installed can you just hook up the battery cables.....?
I posted a reply but forgot to actually reply. Read thru the video comments and you'll find it.
+Richard Whipple If you traced the leads off the bar switch and wired them into the Badlands solenoid box as shown here it should work. As for if you can just hook up a winch to the existing solenoid box I'm not too sure but I don't see why it wouldn't.
How would I wire the same switch but with 6 pins and not 3? As I understand it on the 3 pin switch the center pin is positive with the ground wire on each end pin so that when the switch is pushed one direction it makes the connection and will reverse??
Honestly I am not sure. I havent messed with 6 pin switches ever.
I'd have to see the switch, and do a couple of tests with a voltmeter to be CERTAIN
I expect the 6 lug switch is a DPDT vs the one used in this video is a SPDT.
(DPDT = Double Pole, Double Throw, SPDT = Single Pole, Double Throw)
If that is correct, you can just ignore one set of 3 lugs in a row.
90%+, this is what you are looking at.
There are some interesting things you can do with a DPDT, but none would apply to this project.
thanks that was very helpful .looking to do this mod on my winch i have on my atv with a home made plow
AWESOME video! Thanks for the help! Peace!
I have the badland winch also and the remote got wet and it's shot now. I had put my black box in a dry box bc it on my atv and I do a lot of water riding and mud riding I was wonder if I can do the same thing to mine it would work the same?
Yes.
Keystone Motorsports thank you!
Keystone Motorsports is that switch water proof ?
No. You will be hard pressed to find a waterproof switch. Most are only water resistant with a rubber boot.
can I buy a new remote as mine got left out side on the pontoon couldn't take the Minnesota winter.
are they all set to same frequency?
I use it on pontoon lift.
if I wire in a switch it will be out in the weather too.
You need to replace the wireless solenoid as well, the remotes run on 315mhz but are coded differently so multiple winches can be used within the same area. You can contact Badlands to get a new one.
You can weatherproof the switch buy coating it and the connections in silicone in conjunction with a rubber cover for the toggle. In your case, you may want to modify a dry box from Home Depot (about $8) to house the switch and/or remote next time.
Thank you for contacting Harbor Freight Tools.
Unfortunately, the replacement part you’re requesting is not available and cannot be ordered separately from our manufacturer.
The item may be exchanged if it’s within the 90-day warranty by visiting the store of purchase or by contacting Customer Service department at 1-800-444-3353. We are available Monday-Saturday, 5:00am-9:00pm and Sunday 6:00am-6:00pm (PT).
If the ATV winch is outside the 90-day warranty period replacement remote and transmitter can be found through amazon.com at the following link: www.amazon.com/s?field-keywords=B017I74BZ2
Would it be possible to run two switches at the same time? One in the cockpit and one near the winch?
Anyone put this winch on an arctic atv? Can't seem to mount it on factory mounts.
You may need to make or have someone make a mount. The mounting on these is pretty standard. Having a winch mount plate will help with the install.
I like your video it's very informative
Single Pole Double Throw I believe SPDT in electrician speak.
That would be correct; single pole double throw. If it had 6 terminals on the back it would be DPDT; double pole double throw, which would also work as long as it has a momentary function.
@@KeystoneMotorsports I have that setup on my SnowBlower with a 12V Battery and an old Drill to rotate my chute with DPDT switch. Works great. Battery from Lawn tractor and blue rotating light on top of Canopy. Snow. Bring it!
how do you get the hook through the roller piece
Ronnie Huth Remove a roller, or cut the hook off and put on a hook that's removable. I'd suggest the latter, cause if you accidentally suck the hook through the fairlead you have to do more work to get it out. You can also buy a stopper and put it on when you replace the hook.
Thank you that's what I did the roller came out easy with the snap ring pliers
you dont need that big of wires cause its just signal power that goes from the switch. - the heavy power goes thru the relays inside the box only.
16ga is what is standard inside the solenoid.
how long does this wireless system last? Mine failed out of the box. The additional $25 bucks for the extra solenoid buys you the 3500 lb winch too...
No idea, it depends on how much water is introduced to it. All my current winches have the remotes fully removed and just run switches.
Great video. Very informative.
How did you put the roller guide on there?
Ronnie Rivera Winch mount plate. like $5 at HFT.
ok thanks,
Mine doesn't have a green antenna wire coming from the wireless unit. It has black, red, yellow, & white. And each of them are connected to the main unit.
Can someone tell me how I need to do it?
Chuck Comeau I noticed that in my unit too, it must be internal now. No big deal. the RWY wires are the important ones.
+keystone Motorsports Thanks for the quick reply! As I've got it pulled apart right now & ready to cut the wires. Then I noticed no green one. I'll give it ago without doing anything to the black wire.
Chuck Comeau Yup just follow as normal, just ignore that wire.
Nice job. Its helped me out and saved me alot of time, thanks. Can the winch itself go under water at all? How durable is it?
Excellent video man
You really love lawn mowers.
Looks good douge.
Perfect! Thanks so much !
How not to loose your remote, split ring it to your truck/car/yard tractor keys! Shalom!
The remotes arent water resistant, so they are extremely prone to water contamination if left in the elements or submerged. This eliminates that possibility.
The remote has a key chain on it for a reason, I clip it onto my fourwheeler key and leave it there, never take it off
My mower is push start, no keys. And if it gets wet it will short out. Hard wired is always better.
Seriously? Wow, being meant for a fourwheeler you'd think they'd at least make it water resistant
Theyre ok getting splashed on but leave it out in the rain and itll kill it. I dont think there is a seal holding the two halves of the case together.
+Keystone Motorsports there isn't but I'm probably going to wrap electrical tape or something around it, just for a little more protection
Or use silicone or something. Uncrew the case a bit, run a bead at the seam and reclamp.
learn a lot thanks
Window button out of any old car in the junkyard is the same thing... Juz sayin ....🤔😏
great fix
lol thats the same winch i got
i want to contact you
2bad4u
I think you have succeeded
Money shot at 10:48
I lost my remote. I will buy the remote from anyone who converted theirs.
This conversion does not delete the remote. And from what I have seen, the remotes are on different frequencies to allow multiple winches to be used in the same area, so you would not need just the remote but the wireless reciever as well. My suggestion would be to do as shown in this video or contact Badlands to arrange for a replacement assembly.
I bought one of these before from someone who converted the HF winch to wired on their ATV. All I'm looking for is someone else who is doing the same thing.
+MrZX1206 I might be doing a remote delete in the near future. Keep an eye out.
check this out
Lol
Please invest in a tripod.
This video is 8 years old my guy.
Would it be possible to run two switches at the same time? One in the cockpit and one near the winch?
Yup, just wire the same way or wire off the other switches terminals.
Keystone Motorsports so after the wires are out of the box connect 2 sets?
Also is there any reason not to swap the winch to solenoid cables with the solenoid to battery cables? I would like to mount the solenoid closer to the battery than to the winch.
Last question. All things being equal assuming the price difference is $50 after coupons would you rather have the Badland 2500 or 3500. I think my cost difference will be closer to $25-$30 after additional switches and wiring on the 2500.
You could either pigtail inside the box and run 2 sets (6 wires) out of the box, or run 1 set (3 wires) out of the box to your switch and then run another set of wires off that switch to your 2nd switch. If you want to get fancy, you can get/ make a terminal block to make splitting easier.
You can switch the cables around inside the box to have the longer leads to your battery no problem. I've done that and then used large zip ties to hold the solenoid to the winch motor housing itself.
Standard price difference between the 2500# and 3500# is $75 before coupons. The wireless adapter for the 3500 is $40 on its own. By the end of the day, the 2500# modified is still about 2/3 the cost of the 3500# without the wireless adapter. So it's really a matter of deciding if