Honestly don't buy this crap printer. I don't believe it's worth even the 89 bucks. It's a waste of plastic and electronics. They should make quality products for a good price that lasts. This product is just designed to add more electronics waste to the pile. China where are your ethics? Oh lol. I forgot..
That pony looks very good for the cost of the printer. I expect getting the settings right would make it a good choice for someone printing minis for D&D and similar small things.
F Huber I think FDM is the wrong technology for minis. If I wanted to make minis, I’d definitely spend a little more money and invest in an SLA printer.
Bugger as if I've not spent enough over Christmas, just ordered one for my boy :) well, it's arrived and printing, the included slicer is perfect for younger users.
Thanks for sharing. I too thought of it that way too. It's only $89. You aren't forking out hundreds of dollars at this and your samples are impressive indeed. Love your channel. Can't wait for your next vid.
I'm curious about the other thermal runaway situation (or if it even could happen, based on the construction). That is, if the thermistor is still connected to the board but is removed from the hot end assembly, meaning the printer might keep heating the hot end to reach the target temp. Neat little device!
THIS is what I've been waiting for. A fully functional (and mostly assembled) printer for a reasonable price. That it can be used to make parts for a larger, open source printer cheaply is a bonus. Too bad the "flash sale" is only 1% when I checked it.
Noticed it too. Curious^^ was that segment of video made before he had orinted everything? If not that tels me he was capable of those prints with that loose of a belt! ( probably because there is such low print speed it didnt slip but still ) thats wicked! Such an easy fix and you can probably print faster
@Matthew Findley Jeez someone woke up on the wrong side of the bed. XD
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I've run any number of tensions on my belt, it's honestly not a big deal for slow prints. The part that actually pulls the head gets taught when the motor is running.
Sounds like a bad hottend design and I’d change it personally unless it broke with user error and you just had it smash into an object and destroy itself with some powerful motors and flying across at 200+ mm/s (aka “head crashing”) Most hotends are like $15 (the extruder is not part of the hottend), so like when I wanted to switch to cheaper 3mm rolls it cost me like $12 for the heatsink/heater block/heater/thermocouple/nozzle/quick connect (I switched mine from 1.75 direct to 3mm Bowden for more speed) and it works well (I have printed above 150mm/s through bigger nozzles and it handles the flow rate just fine), even printing over-extruded for 1.5mm to really dump material in fast because I use it like a rapid prototype machine and I can make multiple per hour of 3 inch diameter by half inch thick double herringbone gears (solid infil) on my machine with smaller 0.5 nozzle. I’ve seen people on robotics teams get way worse hot ends for like $60 and I look at it and point out a lot of flaws compared to mine in like 10 second glance, you obviously need to know what to look for but I’m shocked the price variation is so much for often inferior products (and yeah that design sucked in every way I thought it would). It’s bad when the purchasing is in charge of someone with the logic of “well it costs more so it must be better” and ignores the overall inferior design. I could see a nozzle costing $85 though, maybe that’s what cost so much on yours (or it’s some proprietary inferior garbage designed so poorly it breaks partly in the hopes of scamming more customers with replacement parts like those Makerbots with wailing motors and crappy single piece driver board controllers that seem to blow up unlike most DIY parts, inexcusable poor quality for $2k machines losing to $200 DIY machines). You can tell I like proprietary right? Haha!
No, it doesn't. There's barely any material in this, and dinky little $1 motors everywhere, no heated bed, tiny little lightweight thing overall so cheaper to ship. I'm not going to claim that there aren't many many companies and products with high margins, but if you think of something like Ender3 and its various siblings (Geeetech A10, Tevo Tarantula, etc which all have their advantages) around $200 mark, there really isn't all that much margin in there, probably not that much difference. Correspondingly for 2-ish times the price you don't get a printer that's merely twice as good, you get one that is really like 10 times as good. Not only 4 times the print area and 8 times the print volume, but also much more stable and capable of higher forces, tougher to print materials, etc. But i don't mean to bash on this little thing, it's kind of remarkable in the mere fact that it works at all in spite of being made of very low-cost hardware. There is value in getting something made which is the barest and cheapest thing that could possibly work, someone might just need exactly that to get themselves off the ground.
@@SianaGearz Even then to get the features you described, I can just buy from China. It's much cheaper because of your Taxation in the West. The west always lose in terms of price
Not necessarily. The ones that come out first have development costs. The later ones do not have such steep development costs, but have price elasticity from competition.
"Thermal Runaway" and magnetic plate, it literally offers more with that as some 300€ bigger ones. The nice point is, it´s IDEAL if you are a tinkerer who can upgrade the frame for instance. Love how this one turned out. Just had a giggle by thinking "Hmmm... let´s test a large print at 60mm/s" Joe leaves for the night, turns back, just finds all parts of the poor lil freak scattered around with the motors still moving... :P
:D 60mm/s, the thing just about hemorrhages... 27mm/s is the max I've got without the quality going south. So yes, slower than the big boys, though it chugs away quite well...
I've had similar so I clean the plate with 'bathroom cleaner' and scrub it and dry it well before each use. It's done the job. No more peeling off half way through a print. Chuffed to bits with mine.
You're the second one to do a review on this. On my Monoprice Mini, it also has no cooling fan so I just use a USB dual fan and that always did the job for me. But at this price, it will be great for any parent who wants to get one for there kid who's been dying for one. I hope that you and your family had a great New Year and can't wait to see what you have for us this year.
Michael WithadoubleB that doesn’t have to do with tensioning the belt. The belt can be tensioned properly with just a zip tie and it’s pretty easy and not risky to do.
@@KrishnaVijayraman how would you use a ziptie to do it? I would 3d print a belt tensioner, it's 30 minute job and requires a small spring and maybe some screws aside from 3d printable stuff.
@@lazar2175 you can see zip tied belts being tensioned on smaller printers such as this and the tronxy xy-100. A belt tensioner is overkill as you can get good tension by just lining the jaws of the belt with each other and then zip tying it tight to lock the jaws in place. You have to make sure you can pull the belt as tight as possible though before you line up the jaws (without putting too much strain on the belt so that it doesn't break). This should provide good belt tension and you can clip off any excess belt provided you zip tie it near the extruder head (obviously not near the bearings). In fact if you look at the back of the Prusa printers, you can see what I mean by locking the belt with its own jaws.
@@KrishnaVijayraman Thanks a lot, i wouldn't have thought of that in ages lol, this will come in handy because i made my own printer and my belts stretch out so i just 3d printed a small gear tensioned by 2 springs from a ball point pen. This solution is much more elegant and will increase the reliability of my 3d printer because my belt will sometimes slip out or get loose. Thank you so much!
WOW! I can't believe that works. I have had worse prints on my Ender 3 (before calibration of course) 3D printing tech has really grown and come down in price. Amazing! Thanks for the video.
Awesome little printer, thanks for posting the review. Have been playing with it since Christmas, the key to good quality from it is go slower. 27mm/s seems to be the fastest before quality starts to degrade. Also too 0.1mm seems to be the finest it copes with, without making a mess. Will look at adding the fan, keen to grab the link to the .stl proposed for this. :)
This would be so nice for my grandkids. I can't even trying to make one at that price, even using parts I already have and calling those free parts. Thanks for posting the video and not just reformatting your memory card to be forever lost.
I'm glad you made this video, I've been looking at this printer and trying to find out the specs and info to compare it to the Prusa Mini, which I have ordered. I will be waiting for the X2 version of this machine as it includes an LCD on the console and more controls like preheat, I also like that the X2 moves the hot end away from the part when paused then returns when you resume the print job. You've confirmed my thoughts about this machine and I will be ordering when the X2 is released in 1 month. Thanks :D
I’m going to get this printer! I need a small cheap printer for doll customization, and with a bit of sanding and with epoxy should make some pretty good pieces for doll customization! Thanks for the review! ☺️
i bought an Imakrr Startt two years ago for 99 bucks as my then 12 year olds (and mine) first printer. Basically a rebranded tronxy product. sort of a (130 by 140 mm) mini Anet A8 with a v6 clone and no heated bed. We have since ran 600 hours through that printer. We now have a prusa clone a Sunly S8 and building a large scale core XY machine. All because of that little Startt!
This is actually really amazing. It's so cheap for a 3D printer, under 100 dollars and still produces good quality prints! And it has thermal runaway protection! The fact that it even works at all is amazing. It seems stable enough and it has a direct drive extruder. It might even be able to print flexible filament. For 89 dollars, I think it's worth the money. It works well and is easy to use. It could be a good addition to a workspace for printing small and medium sized parts.
The X2 has display, but there is no real advantage in that, using it is even easier without the screen... Except that you can screen live the hotend-temperature, and so, detect faults, just in case they should occur...
There is easy way to add part colling fan just download model for it from online(Enter something like easythreed x1 part colling fan model)and ju just put a small fan in 3d printer and it will becom a part colling fan.Here is link for better explanation and model. www.aliexpress.com/item/4000469006532.html?spm=a2g0o.productlist.0.0.559f5d34dkg16N&algo_pvid=d39d0048-5cb0-4ac6-9ff3-440be4b99a0e&algo_expid=d39d0048-5cb0-4ac6-9ff3-440be4b99a0e-0&btsid=f61f3362-6e7b-44e6-99af-e592da0af92a&ws_ab_test=searchweb0_0,searchweb201602_4,searchweb201603_55. You dont need to buy this fan just take one.
The Tronxy X3 is $99 kit. It has a screen and there is a simple fan duct you can print for free (flaps so it’s great for PLA and closes off the nozzle side for ABS). I’m fairly impressed with its results and it’s 200x200x200 standard print volume (technically it’s more, but that’s kind of it’s class size). It’s also very good because it teaches you how everything is assembled and you can fearlessly fox and modify it. It’s also easier than most LEGO kits I did when I was 12, like significantly easier, so you can have fun building it with your 10 year olds (or much younger depending on the kid, I think I could have built all but the wiring due to safety when I was 8, but that doesn’t mean I didn’t play with 110v AC when I was 8, haha!)
FYI: I bought the same 3D Printer a few days ago and got a X1 with an ET4000 V2 (Atmel Atmega1284) mainboard. So don't expect to always get a 32Bit mainboard.
@5:50 Wait wait wait, hold on a minute... isn't that setup basically direct drive??? Why aren't more printers using a similar setup with a pancake stepper or NEMA 14 right out of the box?
I think its about speed limit. The motor looks like a geared one (bigger than the 1$ type you get from china, but definitly with an internal gear - as you can see in the video, the motor sits centric, but on the other side you see the axis is not centric - a definit sign for an internal gear (but not an planetary one) inside to get the force to move the filament. This type of motor typicly use a high gear ratio (impossible to move the axis by hand), so the motor has to rotate with a relative high speed to push the filament slowly. In my opinion, this is the reason the printer prints so slow - it can not push more filament in time with this design, as the speed of a stepper is limited.+ But of course it is impressive and I hope some more development will be done there.
I work with very expensive industrial printers and I am surprised and excited to see these inexpensive printers starting get better. I hope they use the fan and wifi parts on the board soon.
I got this 3-D printer and then I watch the review and when I got it it works better than expected I wanted a low budget device that can make 3-D models if your kid wants A 3-D printer this is when to get them it’s super easy to set up in the newer models you can buy on Amazon come with a rocket ship 3-D print sample and within about 25 minutes it should be finished printing I’d like to say I’m happy with this purchase and it’s one of the best budget 3-D printers I’ve ever had I highly recommend it
There is now a pre-installed cooling fan on it. Small but its already installed. They also give you like a model to "upgrade" the thing that diverts the air so you can replace the pre-installed one. Might change the fan for a bigger one, like the one he showed on the video.
Izzy, não esperava encontrar um brazuca famoso por aqui! Cara, você me ajudou a comprar o meu Kobo com o review que você fez dele, você recomenda a compra dessa impressora 3d?
Honestly, it doesn't look half bad for someone's first 3D printer. For someone wanting to try out the tech and see if it's something they'd want, the price is def right.
Based on my experience as a raw beginner with the M3D Micro (through Kickstarter) it will probably take a complete beginner a lot more than days or weeks to outgrow this.
in 2015 when I got my M3D mircro, I used it for 2 years. It had the same build volume, but was 300 dollars more than this. Can't wait to see the future of budget 3D printing!
Try a MonoPrice delta mini on black Friday sales(£65/$85) You can get almost prusa i3 quality prints and it's cheap, but there's no assembly required. Prints out of the box.
I just picked one of these up today for $75 canadian. It is used but from what i can tell it was just the free filiment. I know its cheap but im not looking to enter a whole new hoppy I am just adding another tool to the tool box. Everything i can do to make it work better while staying cheap will be done.
Dude! For $89? This thing is outstanding! It looks like they built the hotend from some of the OLD Reprap designs. I hope you keep using it and keep us informed. If I don't get one my self, I would love to hear about the kind of mantainance experience you have.
So much better than the 101 Zero lol! That was the worst ever printer! The only thing I liked about it was it was a delta and it did not need to be connected by usb to the pc to print! Eventually I turned that printer into a spool holder... it makes for a excellent spool holder as you can have multiple spools 🧵 on it.
I have a Prusa i3 replica, the reason being its cheaper. I love the way people are upgrading and going further into the premium. category. my concern is that we are now outdoing these printers and the goal for the fdm printers; cheap and accessible. I love the way Prusa mini has come across, but still far too expensive, would you agree? I would like to see a challenge that uses cheap accessible electronics and print the rest of the build, such as the bearings and brackets. In a way that it's replicable as well as accessible to the wide audience.
i think this printer is the perfect example of buy once cry once. Its definetly aimed as a present. if you have kids your kids get sth better so you dont blow out 90$ in to weeks when you outgrow it. as a present you spent 90$ ask a nother person to colaberate on a gift and get an ender 3 its only twice the price has an interface real steppers a comunity and is made of aluminium not plastic. You coud even ask the perants owning the child if they woud be interestet caus everybody profits when a houshold gets a 3d printer.
Thank you for this great video. I've been wanting to get into 3D printing (since I do a lot of DIY synth stuffs and am often in need of small parts), but the price was always an issue. When I saw this cheap thing I doubted it would be any good, but glad to see it holds up! Going to order soon :D
A much better printer at this price range is the Tronxy X3 (it’s a kit, so you’ll have to put it together, but it sounds like you probably know how to assemble LEGOs so you’ll be fine). It’s way bigger, much much faster printing, and higher quality prints. If you get one you’ll want 2 mods and then it’s golden (and they are printable with like $0.40 in plastic, so no big deal). It’s just a way better machine, but it does take a while to assemble (it’s fun though, it really is just like being a kid again but with “high tech” LEGOs, but pretty much all aluminum extrusions and a few bearings. It’s just a lot of screws, haha! It’s my second printer (first one I built over 6 years ago and just modified everything on it, a total Frankenstein monster totally tailoring it to my needs and preferences, but I wanted a second one). Sure I wanted to spend $500 on the second printer, but honestly didn’t like most of them, they were all basically Ender 3 level of performance (which isn’t bad for the Ender 3), but I wanted the fun of building another one, and the Ender didn’t have a parts bucket/kit option so I went with this. If you have the budget Ender 3 is better but the Tronxy X3 is remarkably impressive for its under $100 price tag shipped to your door in the US. (PS, I’m a mechanical and aerospace engineer, I love designing and modifying everything, almost as much fun modding printers as using them to make gears and whatever else I need printed for my projects, most of the mainstream printers are very modding/upgrade friendly).
Move ahead to Aug 1, 2020: received mine (printer #31) from LightBox in China, fan duct and fan was installed, very nice quality for the price, and way better than all early reviews, Handles TPU.
At that price I'm intrigued. I only have an SLA printer side I figured if I was going to spend $200+ I wanted the best quality prints I could get. But there are reasons I would like to try an FDM.
And another thing when it comes to how his printer came out in mine I was actually just printing directly off and pulling it directly out of a box as is no modifications at all in the current state besides having the build plate itself get to a point where I can't even do please print so therefore I had to use the 3M blue painter's tape method
Inside the extruder, above it inside the orange plastic casing, there is a small fan 5:59 . Could anyone please tell me what the purpose of this fan is? Is it running continiously? Could one let the whole extuder-casing away, and the re-purpose this fan as an print-cooling-fan, instead of adding a 2nd fan, as you did?
That's pretty incredible. Yes it's small and not perfect, but probably just a year ago it would've cost double to get a decent 3D print. Regardless if this does well it's making 3D printing more affordable.
I've managed to do TPU on the EasyThreed Nano (same manufacturer) - which looks very similar in part design (and was picked up for about the same price in a flash sale)
Seems like a rather nice groundwork for building up. Fanshroud there, a bit of support here... In the end, makes prints rivaling a genuine Prusa, but has about 99% new parts, printed and otherwise. :) A 3D printer of Theseus...
interesting. I wonder what kind of upgrades would be possible. both with stock board and maybe what a replacment board would do (btt skr 1.3 with tmc2209 anyone?) if you configured cura for it would the connector for the buttons be able to run an LCD? for example.
I actually like this one. It's totally bare-bones, but it's enough to do its job while being cheaper than some hotends, which is more than you can say for the $100-200 printers a few years ago. Looks like maintenance would be dead simple, aside from maybe the practically inevitable clogged nozzle that just seems to happen to most newbies to printing, and those are a pain on basically everything.
Not a fan of the lack of a screen/dumbed down controls but you could just head to microcenter, pick up a pi zero w for $5, throw octoprint on it and presto - you've got a stupidly good setup for just under $100.
Xaverderschnitzelfan you can already almost completely 3d print a printer. The only parts that need to be bought is the technological components and the bed.
As long as it is calibrated, any printer will often do. You dont get super quality for a high price, part cooling fans are not necessary for pla or a heated bed either. Petg prints go fine on mine cheap homebuilt in wood and aluminium tubes. As long as you take time to adjust most printers are equal to a prusa or a mendel
I might have to try man again the heating nozzle that came with mine is a little bit different it does not have Teflon tape around it and has a rubber grommet on the end of it it looks a little bit different so I could be a different upgraded model
its very good print for this price main reasons- low printing speed direct extruder with cheap components quite a good assembly and small printing area that makes it easier to work ( less problems with the geometry of the frame, etc.)
Apparently Labists is selling this same exact 3D printer but under their brand... I got it for $50 more than advertised here. It's a shame. Also, the starting filament kinda sucks? But that honestly doesn't surprise me. Good review, nice to know that *eventually* it might produce something of actually acceptable quality.
I have one...prints pretty well...but the only problem is it uses those slow 28BYJ-48 geared steppers...so printing at much over 10mm/s will cause the motors to get quite hot Definitely a toyish printer..but GREAT if you want to get something for the kiddo's to play around with...but is pretty darn fun!!
The sample calicat seems to have printed mirrored (usually the tail goes to the left). Is this printer printing mirrored or is the sample sliced wrong?
I’d be super interested to see how far one could self upgrade with one of these. As it be really cool, to start with something like this. Build more parts from it. And build it up slowly. Who knows?
So that's what I was thinking of doing , upgrading slowly over time first increasing the size of the printer and then who knows . I ordered one last night to start experimenting with
I can not believe that there is a ok printer for $89, amazing! The technology has really grown since I started!
Honestly don't buy this crap printer. I don't believe it's worth even the 89 bucks. It's a waste of plastic and electronics. They should make quality products for a good price that lasts. This product is just designed to add more electronics waste to the pile. China where are your ethics? Oh lol. I forgot..
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if you tune it well and maintain it well, its actually quite amazing what a hundred dollar printer can do
I just saw it for only 50€, its Amazing how cheap it gets after one year... I think its a very Good print for its price.
That pony looks very good for the cost of the printer.
I expect getting the settings right would make it a good choice for someone printing minis for D&D and similar small things.
F Huber I think FDM is the wrong technology for minis. If I wanted to make minis, I’d definitely spend a little more money and invest in an SLA printer.
@John Citizen could still use it for props and tiles
Bugger as if I've not spent enough over Christmas, just ordered one for my boy :) well, it's arrived and printing, the included slicer is perfect for younger users.
hooray for over consumption and over spending....
Thanks for sharing. I too thought of it that way too. It's only $89. You aren't forking out hundreds of dollars at this and your samples are impressive indeed. Love your channel. Can't wait for your next vid.
I heard that they added a part cooling fan in the kit now
Lex4G More money out yo pocket
I didn't have a part cooling fan, but there is a duct on thingiverse and the wiring for it is already in place
yep, I had one in mine
I’ll tell you I’m opening mine tomorrow maybe on stream.
BowieMoonen so I there one?
I'm curious about the other thermal runaway situation (or if it even could happen, based on the construction). That is, if the thermistor is still connected to the board but is removed from the hot end assembly, meaning the printer might keep heating the hot end to reach the target temp.
Neat little device!
THIS is what I've been waiting for. A fully functional (and mostly assembled) printer for a reasonable price. That it can be used to make parts for a larger, open source printer cheaply is a bonus. Too bad the "flash sale" is only 1% when I checked it.
Just don't leave it unattended.
@@thilotech yea I dont want this thing catching fire when im not there
You could get a monoprice select min
7:50 who else noticed loose belt on x axis
Noticed it too. Curious^^ was that segment of video made before he had orinted everything? If not that tels me he was capable of those prints with that loose of a belt! ( probably because there is such low print speed it didnt slip but still ) thats wicked! Such an easy fix and you can probably print faster
@Matthew Findley Jeez someone woke up on the wrong side of the bed. XD
I've run any number of tensions on my belt, it's honestly not a big deal for slow prints. The part that actually pulls the head gets taught when the motor is running.
i’m honestly really interested in this printer
I just spent $84 to fix my hot end on my printer. This printer looks like it has the potential to be an affordable fun start to get into 3D printing.
Sounds like a bad hottend design and I’d change it personally unless it broke with user error and you just had it smash into an object and destroy itself with some powerful motors and flying across at 200+ mm/s (aka “head crashing”)
Most hotends are like $15 (the extruder is not part of the hottend), so like when I wanted to switch to cheaper 3mm rolls it cost me like $12 for the heatsink/heater block/heater/thermocouple/nozzle/quick connect (I switched mine from 1.75 direct to 3mm Bowden for more speed) and it works well (I have printed above 150mm/s through bigger nozzles and it handles the flow rate just fine), even printing over-extruded for 1.5mm to really dump material in fast because I use it like a rapid prototype machine and I can make multiple per hour of 3 inch diameter by half inch thick double herringbone gears (solid infil) on my machine with smaller 0.5 nozzle.
I’ve seen people on robotics teams get way worse hot ends for like $60 and I look at it and point out a lot of flaws compared to mine in like 10 second glance, you obviously need to know what to look for but I’m shocked the price variation is so much for often inferior products (and yeah that design sucked in every way I thought it would). It’s bad when the purchasing is in charge of someone with the logic of “well it costs more so it must be better” and ignores the overall inferior design.
I could see a nozzle costing $85 though, maybe that’s what cost so much on yours (or it’s some proprietary inferior garbage designed so poorly it breaks partly in the hopes of scamming more customers with replacement parts like those Makerbots with wailing motors and crappy single piece driver board controllers that seem to blow up unlike most DIY parts, inexcusable poor quality for $2k machines losing to $200 DIY machines). You can tell I like proprietary right? Haha!
It goes to show how much margin other brands manufacturers are enjoying
No, it doesn't. There's barely any material in this, and dinky little $1 motors everywhere, no heated bed, tiny little lightweight thing overall so cheaper to ship. I'm not going to claim that there aren't many many companies and products with high margins, but if you think of something like Ender3 and its various siblings (Geeetech A10, Tevo Tarantula, etc which all have their advantages) around $200 mark, there really isn't all that much margin in there, probably not that much difference. Correspondingly for 2-ish times the price you don't get a printer that's merely twice as good, you get one that is really like 10 times as good. Not only 4 times the print area and 8 times the print volume, but also much more stable and capable of higher forces, tougher to print materials, etc.
But i don't mean to bash on this little thing, it's kind of remarkable in the mere fact that it works at all in spite of being made of very low-cost hardware. There is value in getting something made which is the barest and cheapest thing that could possibly work, someone might just need exactly that to get themselves off the ground.
@@SianaGearz Even then to get the features you described, I can just buy from China. It's much cheaper because of your Taxation in the West. The west always lose in terms of price
Not necessarily. The ones that come out first have development costs. The later ones do not have such steep development costs, but have price elasticity from competition.
"Thermal Runaway" and magnetic plate, it literally offers more with that as some 300€ bigger ones. The nice point is, it´s IDEAL if you are a tinkerer who can upgrade the frame for instance. Love how this one turned out. Just had a giggle by thinking "Hmmm... let´s test a large print at 60mm/s" Joe leaves for the night, turns back, just finds all parts of the poor lil freak scattered around with the motors still moving... :P
:D 60mm/s, the thing just about hemorrhages... 27mm/s is the max I've got without the quality going south. So yes, slower than the big boys, though it chugs away quite well...
I've had similar so I clean the plate with 'bathroom cleaner' and scrub it and dry it well before each use. It's done the job. No more peeling off half way through a print. Chuffed to bits with mine.
You're the second one to do a review on this. On my Monoprice Mini, it also has no cooling fan so I just use a USB dual fan and that always did the job for me. But at this price, it will be great for any parent who wants to get one for there kid who's been dying for one. I hope that you and your family had a great New Year and can't wait to see what you have for us this year.
Impressive Quality for the money
Thanks for sharing this simple printer :-)
Great video! The print quality could even be better if the belts were tensioned correctly. (7:50)
I think tom said those motors are really easy to break the tiny gears inside
Maybe it's risky?
Michael WithadoubleB that doesn’t have to do with tensioning the belt. The belt can be tensioned properly with just a zip tie and it’s pretty easy and not risky to do.
@@KrishnaVijayraman how would you use a ziptie to do it?
I would 3d print a belt tensioner, it's 30 minute job and requires a small spring and maybe some screws aside from 3d printable stuff.
@@lazar2175 you can see zip tied belts being tensioned on smaller printers such as this and the tronxy xy-100. A belt tensioner is overkill as you can get good tension by just lining the jaws of the belt with each other and then zip tying it tight to lock the jaws in place. You have to make sure you can pull the belt as tight as possible though before you line up the jaws (without putting too much strain on the belt so that it doesn't break). This should provide good belt tension and you can clip off any excess belt provided you zip tie it near the extruder head (obviously not near the bearings). In fact if you look at the back of the Prusa printers, you can see what I mean by locking the belt with its own jaws.
@@KrishnaVijayraman Thanks a lot, i wouldn't have thought of that in ages lol, this will come in handy because i made my own printer and my belts stretch out so i just 3d printed a small gear tensioned by 2 springs from a ball point pen.
This solution is much more elegant and will increase the reliability of my 3d printer because my belt will sometimes slip out or get loose.
Thank you so much!
WOW! I can't believe that works. I have had worse prints on my Ender 3 (before calibration of course) 3D printing tech has really grown and come down in price. Amazing! Thanks for the video.
Awesome little printer, thanks for posting the review. Have been playing with it since Christmas, the key to good quality from it is go slower. 27mm/s seems to be the fastest before quality starts to degrade. Also too 0.1mm seems to be the finest it copes with, without making a mess. Will look at adding the fan, keen to grab the link to the .stl proposed for this. :)
Make a video and let us know if you add the fan!
This would be so nice for my grandkids. I can't even trying to make one at that price, even using parts I already have and calling those free parts. Thanks for posting the video and not just reformatting your memory card to be forever lost.
Read my post from a little while ago. A Tronxy P802M kit can be bought for the same price or lower, and is a much more capable printer.
I'm glad you made this video, I've been looking at this printer and trying to find out the specs and info to compare it to the Prusa Mini, which I have ordered. I will be waiting for the X2 version of this machine as it includes an LCD on the console and more controls like preheat, I also like that the X2 moves the hot end away from the part when paused then returns when you resume the print job.
You've confirmed my thoughts about this machine and I will be ordering when the X2 is released in 1 month. Thanks :D
I’m going to get this printer! I need a small cheap printer for doll customization, and with a bit of sanding and with epoxy should make some pretty good pieces for doll customization! Thanks for the review! ☺️
i bought an Imakrr Startt two years ago for 99 bucks as my then 12 year olds (and mine) first printer. Basically a rebranded tronxy product. sort of a (130 by 140 mm) mini Anet A8 with a v6 clone and no heated bed. We have since ran 600 hours through that printer. We now have a prusa clone a Sunly S8 and building a large scale core XY machine. All because of that little Startt!
This is actually really amazing. It's so cheap for a 3D printer, under 100 dollars and still produces good quality prints! And it has thermal runaway protection! The fact that it even works at all is amazing. It seems stable enough and it has a direct drive extruder. It might even be able to print flexible filament. For 89 dollars, I think it's worth the money. It works well and is easy to use. It could be a good addition to a workspace for printing small and medium sized parts.
If u could mod an lcd screen on this and a part cooling fan this would be probs the best budget printer
The X2 has display: th-cam.com/video/VfYkGFNamNI/w-d-xo.html
The X2 has display, but there is no real advantage in that, using it is even easier without the screen... Except that you can screen live the hotend-temperature, and so, detect faults, just in case they should occur...
There is easy way to add part colling fan just download model for it from online(Enter something like easythreed x1 part colling fan model)and ju just put a small fan in 3d printer and it will becom a part colling fan.Here is link for better explanation and model. www.aliexpress.com/item/4000469006532.html?spm=a2g0o.productlist.0.0.559f5d34dkg16N&algo_pvid=d39d0048-5cb0-4ac6-9ff3-440be4b99a0e&algo_expid=d39d0048-5cb0-4ac6-9ff3-440be4b99a0e-0&btsid=f61f3362-6e7b-44e6-99af-e592da0af92a&ws_ab_test=searchweb0_0,searchweb201602_4,searchweb201603_55. You dont need to buy this fan just take one.
The Tronxy X3 is $99 kit. It has a screen and there is a simple fan duct you can print for free (flaps so it’s great for PLA and closes off the nozzle side for ABS). I’m fairly impressed with its results and it’s 200x200x200 standard print volume (technically it’s more, but that’s kind of it’s class size). It’s also very good because it teaches you how everything is assembled and you can fearlessly fox and modify it. It’s also easier than most LEGO kits I did when I was 12, like significantly easier, so you can have fun building it with your 10 year olds (or much younger depending on the kid, I think I could have built all but the wiring due to safety when I was 8, but that doesn’t mean I didn’t play with 110v AC when I was 8, haha!)
@@jakegarrett8109 I only saw the 217 dollar version
FYI: I bought the same 3D Printer a few days ago and got a X1 with an ET4000 V2 (Atmel Atmega1284) mainboard. So don't expect to always get a 32Bit mainboard.
Prints better than my out of box tronxy.
Looks like an interesting little printer. Good to see safety features have been put in place
Great video. Aside from the price, its a great little printer to give kids who want to learn more about the nuts and bolts of 3D printing.
thank you Joe for the Malta-Red prints :)
"Joe Cool" T-Shirt. Nice
If you didn’t know, Easythreed came out with an X2 version that includes a part cooling fan.
Awesome little machine for the money. I can't believe how far 3d printing has come and how far the prices have dropped!
This is great for teaching kids how to use CAD, Blender, Max and then to make their creations 3D
@5:50 Wait wait wait, hold on a minute... isn't that setup basically direct drive??? Why aren't more printers using a similar setup with a pancake stepper or NEMA 14 right out of the box?
I think its about speed limit. The motor looks like a geared one (bigger than the 1$ type you get from china, but definitly with an internal gear - as you can see in the video, the motor sits centric, but on the other side you see the axis is not centric - a definit sign for an internal gear (but not an planetary one) inside to get the force to move the filament. This type of motor typicly use a high gear ratio (impossible to move the axis by hand), so the motor has to rotate with a relative high speed to push the filament slowly.
In my opinion, this is the reason the printer prints so slow - it can not push more filament in time with this design, as the speed of a stepper is limited.+
But of course it is impressive and I hope some more development will be done there.
I actually wonder how it would print flexibles.
Expensive toy. Shows 96 euros for me. I have seen ender 3 for 136 euros. on Black Friday missed it. Paid 150$ for mine. Love it.
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yea that would be a surprise to me too but from where I was setting the prints looked pretty good great job on the review
For $89 this is good value. You can't complain really. Happy New Year Joe
At that price point I was impressed....thanks for sharing....Jack
J Olliemark anet A8 costs 75$
wow! impressive for sure. A perfect gift for the kiddos to pop curiosity
I work with very expensive industrial printers and I am surprised and excited to see these inexpensive printers starting get better. I hope they use the fan and wifi parts on the board soon.
What other filaments can this printer use? Is only PLA? Great video by the way...
This thing is so small and adorable!
I got this 3-D printer and then I watch the review and when I got it it works better than expected I wanted a low budget device that can make 3-D models if your kid wants A 3-D printer this is when to get them it’s super easy to set up in the newer models you can buy on Amazon come with a rocket ship 3-D print sample and within about 25 minutes it should be finished printing I’d like to say I’m happy with this purchase and it’s one of the best budget 3-D printers I’ve ever had I highly recommend it
Looks like I'm gonna get this to try out 3d printing for the first time
Please keep us informed if you do design a holder for the coolingfan. I have both X1 and X2 (X2 has a screen and a rotary button).
There is now a pre-installed cooling fan on it. Small but its already installed. They also give you like a model to "upgrade" the thing that diverts the air so you can replace the pre-installed one. Might change the fan for a bigger one, like the one he showed on the video.
The inspiration to the Prusa Mini! HA!!!
I like the Product!!!😊😊😊
A nice small printer I can give my little cousins partents to get them into 3d printing. When I dont have 300 for a tiny prusa to send to them.
That's fascinating that a printer that cheap works so easily and prints.
My filament doesn't come out the nozzle, and now I can't pull it out of the printer head :(
you get what you pay for I guess.
I have this printer try to heat it up then take the filiment out
I just tried it and it works press the plus button and wait like 10 second and after you take it out then press the plus button again
Izzy, não esperava encontrar um brazuca famoso por aqui! Cara, você me ajudou a comprar o meu Kobo com o review que você fez dele, você recomenda a compra dessa impressora 3d?
@@khalildamree8675 I’m just replying to this so when I get mine I can trouble shoot it
You should do another video on mods for it.
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Honestly, it doesn't look half bad for someone's first 3D printer. For someone wanting to try out the tech and see if it's something they'd want, the price is def right.
You've actually tested "min temp error" not "thermal runway".
I was like ," is he really going to melt it?!?!?"
..... Oh that's not what he did....😒
I bought this same printer 2 years ago because of its price. Mine came with a part cooling fan. Now i have 3 more printers ranging from 170 to 400.
Based on my experience as a raw beginner with the M3D Micro (through Kickstarter) it will probably take a complete beginner a lot more than days or weeks to outgrow this.
That’s even better, more bang for your buck :)
in 2015 when I got my M3D mircro, I used it for 2 years. It had the same build volume, but was 300 dollars more than this. Can't wait to see the future of budget 3D printing!
@@juicycoding819 Hell I still use mine. Got it in 2015
I bought the Creality Ender 2 for $120 and that is a great printer and produced beautiful prints.
I was thinking of buying a printer for my 16yo son, but now I've seen this, yes I think it's a great model to start with. Nice-1...!
Try a MonoPrice delta mini on black Friday sales(£65/$85) You can get almost prusa i3 quality prints and it's cheap, but there's no assembly required. Prints out of the box.
looks good, my only concern is quality control, you got a good one, but was that just look, or are they all as good?
Cool little printer, btw, love your T-shirt!
I just picked one of these up today for $75 canadian. It is used but from what i can tell it was just the free filiment. I know its cheap but im not looking to enter a whole new hoppy I am just adding another tool to the tool box. Everything i can do to make it work better while staying cheap will be done.
Dude! For $89? This thing is outstanding! It looks like they built the hotend from some of the OLD Reprap designs. I hope you keep using it and keep us informed. If I don't get one my self, I would love to hear about the kind of mantainance experience you have.
This printer would be good for schools because you can have so many with a quick set up at a low cost
Can i know about the measurement accuracy about this printer?
So much better than the 101 Zero lol! That was the worst ever printer! The only thing I liked about it was it was a delta and it did not need to be connected by usb to the pc to print! Eventually I turned that printer into a spool holder... it makes for a excellent spool holder as you can have multiple spools 🧵 on it.
I have a Prusa i3 replica, the reason being its cheaper. I love the way people are upgrading and going further into the premium. category. my concern is that we are now outdoing these printers and the goal for the fdm printers; cheap and accessible. I love the way Prusa mini has come across, but still far too expensive, would you agree? I would like to see a challenge that uses cheap accessible electronics and print the rest of the build, such as the bearings and brackets. In a way that it's replicable as well as accessible to the wide audience.
i think this printer is the perfect example of buy once cry once. Its definetly aimed as a present. if you have kids your kids get sth better so you dont blow out 90$ in to weeks when you outgrow it.
as a present you spent 90$ ask a nother person to colaberate on a gift and get an ender 3 its only twice the price has an interface real steppers a comunity and is made of aluminium not plastic.
You coud even ask the perants owning the child if they woud be interestet caus everybody profits when a houshold gets a 3d printer.
Thank you for this great video. I've been wanting to get into 3D printing (since I do a lot of DIY synth stuffs and am often in need of small parts), but the price was always an issue. When I saw this cheap thing I doubted it would be any good, but glad to see it holds up!
Going to order soon :D
A much better printer at this price range is the Tronxy X3 (it’s a kit, so you’ll have to put it together, but it sounds like you probably know how to assemble LEGOs so you’ll be fine). It’s way bigger, much much faster printing, and higher quality prints. If you get one you’ll want 2 mods and then it’s golden (and they are printable with like $0.40 in plastic, so no big deal). It’s just a way better machine, but it does take a while to assemble (it’s fun though, it really is just like being a kid again but with “high tech” LEGOs, but pretty much all aluminum extrusions and a few bearings. It’s just a lot of screws, haha!
It’s my second printer (first one I built over 6 years ago and just modified everything on it, a total Frankenstein monster totally tailoring it to my needs and preferences, but I wanted a second one). Sure I wanted to spend $500 on the second printer, but honestly didn’t like most of them, they were all basically Ender 3 level of performance (which isn’t bad for the Ender 3), but I wanted the fun of building another one, and the Ender didn’t have a parts bucket/kit option so I went with this. If you have the budget Ender 3 is better but the Tronxy X3 is remarkably impressive for its under $100 price tag shipped to your door in the US. (PS, I’m a mechanical and aerospace engineer, I love designing and modifying everything, almost as much fun modding printers as using them to make gears and whatever else I need printed for my projects, most of the mainstream printers are very modding/upgrade friendly).
i wonder if octoprint would work on this
Move ahead to Aug 1, 2020: received mine (printer #31) from LightBox in China, fan duct and fan was installed, very nice quality for the price, and way better than all early reviews, Handles TPU.
Excellent review.
At that price I'm intrigued. I only have an SLA printer side I figured if I was going to spend $200+ I wanted the best quality prints I could get. But there are reasons I would like to try an FDM.
Hey do you know how to change the PLA mid print without it starting from the beginning again?
That's beautiful filament, what is it?
And another thing when it comes to how his printer came out in mine I was actually just printing directly off and pulling it directly out of a box as is no modifications at all in the current state besides having the build plate itself get to a point where I can't even do please print so therefore I had to use the 3M blue painter's tape method
Inside the extruder, above it inside the orange plastic casing, there is a small fan 5:59 . Could anyone please tell me what the purpose of this fan is? Is it running continiously? Could one let the whole extuder-casing away, and the re-purpose this fan as an print-cooling-fan, instead of adding a 2nd fan, as you did?
That's pretty incredible. Yes it's small and not perfect, but probably just a year ago it would've cost double to get a decent 3D print.
Regardless if this does well it's making 3D printing more affordable.
I have the Labists version and damn its good quality.
Direct drive, wonder if it can do tpu? With a printed fan shroud it might be useful.
I've managed to do TPU on the EasyThreed Nano (same manufacturer) - which looks very similar in part design (and was picked up for about the same price in a flash sale)
There's a fan add-on www.aliexpress.com/item/4000469006532.html?spm=2114.12010615.8148356.21.1f111cfbxChuq7
Very nice and informative presentation. Big thanks!
Seems like a rather nice groundwork for building up. Fanshroud there, a bit of support here... In the end, makes prints rivaling a genuine Prusa, but has about 99% new parts, printed and otherwise. :) A 3D printer of Theseus...
With the wimpy little motors it has, i don't think it is a good groundwork for building up.
@@SianaGearz That's number 2 thing to replace. :)
Just bought one for my little siblings and im testing it now. I had some extra filament from my ender 5
printing better than my chiron at present lol. happy new year Joe!!
Thank you for sharing your oppinion. Good result for the price
interesting. I wonder what kind of upgrades would be possible. both with stock board and maybe what a replacment board would do (btt skr 1.3 with tmc2209 anyone?)
if you configured cura for it would the connector for the buttons be able to run an LCD? for example.
The X2 version of this machine has an lcd and rotary knob control
I actually like this one. It's totally bare-bones, but it's enough to do its job while being cheaper than some hotends, which is more than you can say for the $100-200 printers a few years ago. Looks like maintenance would be dead simple, aside from maybe the practically inevitable clogged nozzle that just seems to happen to most newbies to printing, and those are a pain on basically everything.
im definently buying this. thanks alot for this video
Not a fan of the lack of a screen/dumbed down controls but you could just head to microcenter, pick up a pi zero w for $5, throw octoprint on it and presto - you've got a stupidly good setup for just under $100.
In 10 years we will printing the printer. The filament prints itself
Xaverderschnitzelfan you can already almost completely 3d print a printer. The only parts that need to be bought is the technological components and the bed.
@@n1ji_ no, i mean the filament IS the printer
Xaverderschnitzelfan oh I see what you mean
Apparently if u use a good filament the prints are actually kind of nice
If octoprint works with this guy I'd buy Ina heartbeat
ya, if octoprint works it might be even more useful as a demo/intro to PIs and 3d printers
As long as it is calibrated, any printer will often do. You dont get super quality for a high price, part cooling fans are not necessary for pla or a heated bed either. Petg prints go fine on mine cheap homebuilt in wood and aluminium tubes. As long as you take time to adjust most printers are equal to a prusa or a mendel
I might have to try man again the heating nozzle that came with mine is a little bit different it does not have Teflon tape around it and has a rubber grommet on the end of it it looks a little bit different so I could be a different upgraded model
its very good print for this price
main reasons-
low printing speed
direct extruder
with cheap components quite a good assembly
and small printing area that makes it easier to work ( less problems with the geometry of the frame, etc.)
kinda best choice for first printer if want @just try@
Apparently Labists is selling this same exact 3D printer but under their brand... I got it for $50 more than advertised here. It's a shame. Also, the starting filament kinda sucks? But that honestly doesn't surprise me. Good review, nice to know that *eventually* it might produce something of actually acceptable quality.
I have one...prints pretty well...but the only problem is it uses those slow 28BYJ-48 geared steppers...so printing at much over 10mm/s will cause the motors to get quite hot
Definitely a toyish printer..but GREAT if you want to get something for the kiddo's to play around with...but is pretty darn fun!!
The sample calicat seems to have printed mirrored (usually the tail goes to the left). Is this printer printing mirrored or is the sample sliced wrong?
Maybe it's the video that's mirrored?
I printed an Arduíno stand and it was also mirrored in the end.. I think there's something inverted in the project...
That is awesome, I recently bought a printer for $120 and it wasn’t bad either, I wonder how this compares. Mine has a heated removable bed though
I’d be super interested to see how far one could self upgrade with one of these. As it be really cool, to start with something like this. Build more parts from it. And build it up slowly. Who knows?
So that's what I was thinking of doing , upgrading slowly over time first increasing the size of the printer and then who knows . I ordered one last night to start experimenting with
I have the K-9 version and I am shocked it works better than my other printers