This explains why Honda with the NSX and McLaren with the MP4-12C went to such lengths to produce cars designed around the concept of being better in every way than the comparable Ferrari's of the time, both cars notable for being quicker, cheaper, and easier to live with than their Italian counterparts. It's also why Ferrari has put so much into the aero of their modern cars, they used to be very pretty with lots of power, now they look moreso like Adrian Newey's wet dreams rather than automotive masterpieces
@@fnafboy-fnafgirlssistercar685 HONDA made the NSX Acura is the luxury model to upsell their cars with pretty headlights and taillights lol but it’s Honda who manufactures it all
@@fnafboy-fnafgirlssistercar685 it's only an Acura in the states where they thought the luxury branding would help justify the cost and improve sales. Nearly everywhere else Honda is the only company. Lexus, Toyota's luxury division, was also created primarily for the US market
There's also the fact that Laura had a powerful weapon to hold over Enzo. She knew that he'd had a long-term affair with a woman who gave birth to a son. Enzo's son. And since at the time you couldn't divorce in Italy, she could make Enzo's life hell and he couldn't do anything about it. She also issued an ultimatum that the boy-Piero Lardi-was to have nothing to do with the company as long as she was alive. It wasn't until after Laura's passing that Enzo acknowledged Piero as his son. Today, Piero Ferrari holds his father's shares in Ferrari, is a vice president, and lives in Enzo's old house with his family
I think the issue that Top Gear with Clarkson, Hammond and May with the hypercar shootout confirms what Chris Harris was saying, since obviously Porsche was cool with whatever, McLaren wanted showroom spec cars, and when Porsche and McLaren agreed to the showroom spec cars stipulation then Ferrari freaked out saying they'd ban people from buying their cars if one was given
Well when Chris Harris tested the three on his TH-cam channel before he moved to Top Gear. Simple fact was the McLaren was faster at Portimao on both its standard and more hardcore tyres. Porsche probably didn't care because let's be honest they practically set a new Nurburgring production car lap record every week so they don't need to prove themselves. That and McLaren wanted showroom spec as they wanted a fair fight. Ferrari making this big song and dance about it just goes to show how prevalent this mindset is at Ferrari of "our way or the highway" its probably why Mercedes has been kicking the living hell out of them for years in F1.
When everyone walked out, Ferrari lost Chiti to Alfa. This led to the Alfa V12s years later in the 70s and the F1 effort in the 80s, and the dominant tipo 33 in 75-77. That must have stung. Out of desperation, Ferrari handed the reigns to Mauro Foghieri, who was way too young, but led to many years of crap F1 cars until the 312T. DiMontezemolo then took over the F1 team at age 26. How does a fresh university grad lawyer suddenly run Ferrari F1? Might have to do with the fact that he was the illegitimate son of Gianni Agnelli.
Enzo’s ethics were always suspect in his dealing with other people. Especially with drivers he would always play one off against the others, notably offering a drive to Sterling Moss only to have given the seat to someone else by the time that Moss had arrived. Sterling did the only correct thing and refused to have anything to do with the man.
Fun fact, the only guy that wasn't fired after saying the car was shit or criticizing Ferrari was indeed Lauda I think Rush kinda relates the entire thing. Even Prost got fired by them after some critics and he was a 3 times World Champion at the time.
Enzo Ferrari's only surviving offspring Piero cannot formerly be acknowledged by Enzo until his wife died in 1978 (divorce wasn't legal in Italy until 1975). Piero owns about 10% of Ferrari.
I always say that the fundamental difference between Colin Chapman and Enzo Ferrari is that Chapman was an educated engineer with experience from the aircraft industry whereas Ferrari had little formal education and began as a factory worker post-WWI and got his chance to race cars. I firmly believe this reflected itself in the vastly different approaches of the car makers, particularly in their racing cars. In my mind the engineers should be in charge of a company producing high-tech products. How did the Boeing 737MAX happen? On the net the consensus seems to be this:"Boeing used to be controlled by the engineers, now it's controlled by the accountants..." Well, at least Enzo Ferrari wasn't an accountant. :)
There's a few details to this story that need corrections, but also many more to share. Firstly, Forghieri was not the man Niki Lauda told the Ferrari was shit. It was Enzo himself, with Piero translating for both of them. Secondly, Enzo had a strong belief that his cars were the absolute best and were perfect, but he was willing to listen to a certain extent. Birnging the Niki Lauda example again: Lauda estimated that if the steering problems on the 312 were to be fixed, he could go about 3 tenths of a second faster. And Ferrari was like "Okay, I'll give you this chance to prove me wrong, but if you don't succeed, you're gonna have a problem." Basically, ok, you said the car is shit but if you don't turn this shit into gold, you're out. And then Lauda went eight tenths quicker. Lastly, many of Ferrari's coworkers (Forghieri and Montezemolo included) often bring up the fact that Enzo, being struck with tragedy multiple times, decided to isolate himself from everyone just so he couldn't suffer again. In fact, since Dino died at 24, he had very little emotional connections with anyone. All of the people he deeply and openly loved, such as his own parents, his brother Alfredo who died when Enzo was like 20, engineer Vittorio Jano who was very close to Enzo and committed suicide once he discovered he'd been diagnosed with a terminal tumor... everyone died. Including drivers he was very close with, such as Tazio Nuvolari (who Enzo considered the greatest driver who ever lived), Alberto Ascari and Lorenzo Bandini... all dead. With so many deaths mourned, the passing of Dino and Laura were, no pun intended, the final nail in the coffin for Enzo, who became a shell of his former self with no desire to share an emotional connection with anyone, so ho could not suffer no longer. Until a certain Gilles Villeneuve came about. You've all seen the photo: Enzo and Villeneuve sharing a laugh. If we were to listen to the people who worked at Ferrari at that time, they all said that in that period, Enzo was the happiest he'd been in ages up to that point. And then we all know what happened at Zolder in 1982. The passing of Gilles Villeneuve felt like he had lost Dino once again, and it was devastating. We can all crap on Enzo all day long, and many criticism is pretty well deserved if I say so myself (despite being an Italian myself and loving Ferrari till pigs learn to fly), but we gotta remember how many tragedies he had to live through, many of which were pretty personal to him. The man was definitely tricky to deal with. And his behavior was as complex as his psyche: pretty much impossible to fully understand.
I’m Italian and worked with people like Enzo and this “mentality” of perfectionism along with a bit of totalitarianism. Also having my entire family wiped out in a short period of time. It changes people, they go from being happy to being real miserable mother fuckers. You have to understand how passionate and caring Italians are…then it goes totally the other way when things go bad. It gets dark and not fun. It takes some years to come back from it. Then if something else happens again like you said there’s a “nail in the coffin” mentality” that happens or goes on. I think it’s a cultural thing and I don’t think it’s healthy, but it is human. They really close off and get cold. They don’t know how to deal with it and get very very cold and brutal. You can kind of tell how a king could just wipe out a people like ceaser and go “roman” and say…off with all their heads.
TH-cam algorithm for the win. I kinda forgot about this channel after the great copyright debacle. Glad to see you're still going hard in the paint and are coming up with more great content.
That's why I'm very happy Vettel is no longer at Ferrari! I've Italian heritage andFerrari reminds of some bosses in my former engineering jobs as technical director. After I would prepare a piece to be machined at a CNC milling center, the boss would come around 10min after: "Is it done?" and I would reply "Sir, it's a 54h process, so no!" and ten minutes later: "Is it done?" and on and on and would accuse me of being incompetent for not working faster despite working within the assigned deadlines. That and trying to explain me how to do my job, while not having a hint of a clue about it. I'm always happy to get wisdom from the old guard but that was just bollocks.
Other than Lauda and Gino Rancati's books (and his own autobiography, of course) I have not read many first hand account of Ferrari the man. Luca Dal Monte was too reverential, and Brock Yates tabloid-like almost to the point of libelous. It's like there's an omerta about him still.
They had to change. Big engines alone don’t make great cars. The og NSX made that pretty clear Aero makes cars faster without the for need more hp. Hybrids make them more efficient. And 4K d drive makes them more stable. Cause let’s be honest most Ferraris don’t ever touch a track.
These are the reasons - most of them - that I have no time for Ferrari as a brand or team. Chapman was often considered as cold-hearted when it came to losing drivers, but given that at times he was overwhelmed with grief in public, and knowing that British (especially English) guys of his generation had been brought up to keep their emotions bottled up, particularly in public, I don't think he was like that at all. He did his grieving at home, I'm positive about that. Enzo, however, was every bit as callous as you said - and probably more so. For an Italian, he showed few emotions in public, but from stories I've heard, he showed none in private either. To him, drivers, and everyone else who worked for him were replaceable. Things don't seem to have changed much, either. No, I'll pass on a Ferrari, but give me an E-type (or an XK8/R; the spiritual successor to the E-type - and designed by a woman), and I'll be happy. In fact the only nice thing I've ever heard from Enzo was about that car. He called it the most beautiful car in the world. That was the one thing about which I would ever agree with him.
Oh great a new video. 👏👏 On a side note, the white of the awesome mic is rather bright & distracting. Is there a way to tone it down. A black dead cat cover, maybe?
Great video! Kinda tarnished my obsession with Ferarri. But it's hard to argue with so many beautiful cars over the years. The passion is evident in every detail. There's just nothing quite like them
FYI.. Much like Ferrari ,,,So does Harley-Davidson, my wife was once VEEP there. The waiting list to purchase a motorcycle, is purely contrived and a marketing strategy. They make more on aftermarket bits and bob (think Chrome Kickstand with Harley Davidson stamped on it) and officially licensed merchandise like TShirts, coffee cups, playing cards et al.
Thinking back when i was a teenager, none of the posters on my wall was a ferrari. I didn't see the appeal of them, and i still dont to this day. Its the car rich people buy when they can't be arsed to put any thought into it. I can't think of any price bracket where I'd want a Ferrari over the competition. Cheaper supercar looks, get a Lotus, breakneck supercar speeds, handling and latest carbonfibre manufacturing tech, get a McLaren, ultimate in engineering with unlimited budget, get a koenigsegg, best acceleration with practicality, get a Tesla. I just don't see where Ferrari fit in anywhere. They've done bugger all in F1 too, they contributed nothing over the years (last to adopt rear-engine cars, carbon fibre, etc) and all the ingenious aero advancements over the past 20 years were done by teams other than Ferrari - they flaunt the badge, suck the most money out of F1 and show nothing for it, and then churn out the same old fundamental designs for their road cars. As with Donald Trump, if you praise yourself enough and say how important you are for long enough, morons will believe it without questioning it and promote you to positions you're too inept to handle.
@@Cos_Why_Not luxury? The McLaren hydraulic suspension deals with bad roads as well as a Rolls Royce. Whats so luxurious about a Ferrari? And its hardly exclusive. Koenigsegg would be exclusive.
@@aaronaaronsen3360 you are correct. Personally i don’t like Ferraris that much and don’t like Enzo as a person, but to say they’ve never innovated or made really good f1 cars is a lie. I agree that for how much money they have and the resources they have they’ve done terrible in that regard. But they have had a few eras where they made the best cars in the grid.
@@tonyhawk123 What's exclusive about Ferrari? Do you know anything about their business practises? They have waiting lists, limited amount of produced cars, they're expensive, and some Ferraris can even be sold for more than they were bought. Not only that, Ferrari requires you to sign contracts to buy their cars. All you need to do to see their success is look at the amount of cars sold relative to revenue, or things like market cap or brand value. I understand that from a purely performance side, Ferrari isn't always actually the best, most comfortable or fastest but that's not what the value of the company is based on.
[ 3:42 ] - Yep, that painting is pretty grim 🙈😱. But to have lunch _before_ viewing it, or to have lunch _after_ viewing it? ⚖️🤔. Well, it's questionable whether the lunch and the painting are reconcilable at all 🖼️🤷🍖 , however, if you have lunch _before_ viewing,.. you alluded to the risk you might throw it up 🤢🚽. But if you decide to have lunch _after_ viewing it,.. well, although you might be put off the lunch 🍖🤐, at least there would be a decision to be made,.. and it would be in your hands as opposed to being all over your carpets 😊. And Enzo Ferrari? 🤔 . . . Umm,.. yeah, why not? Nice shirts, that man. Always thought so! 👍. ( You're a _brilliant_ story teller! 👏. I wouldn't have searched half of these topics otherwise. Arrived courtesy of 90's motorsport; stayed for the rest ). - LFCB.
The brand has a rich history of building the best sports cars of the time. The fastest in a straight line and on track, the best handling, the best quality and an exceptional eye for details and how to get them perfect. They are the rolls royce of sports cars. Nowerdays the 488 e.g. is known for being a perfectly fine daily driver, he handles rough roads through the country side, interstates, you can park him decently and if you want you can just pull into a track and go for it without any worries. That is for exotic sportscars, which basicly suck against acutual daily drivers. But look at the countach, where you couldnt reverse without sticking your head outside with the wing door open. You cant park that. It also kills you if you shift wrong. And other brands never had that package. Bugatti didnt exit for decades, Mclaren built one car until recently and that was a legend but you cant build a brand on one product. Porsche has been up there but they never really got to it. Also most Porsches dont fullfill the promises a 918 Spyder sets. A 458 is maybe not as fast as a la Ferrari but damn quick nonetheless and a brilliant car in itsself. Lamborghini build suicide rockets, interesting cars but there were way to few and they were way to much worry to get to the same level as Ferrari has. They are a very respected brand but for totally different reasons and the appeal of the cars has been a nieche before Audi took over and attacked Ferrari more directly with properly usable cars. But they flooded the market. Ferraris are kinda rare, they are special. Maybe Bugatti is on that level of special, some models of other brands like the Aventador or the SLS AMG are too but for Ferrari it doesnt really matter which one you see, they are all special. And thats the deal about Ferrari. I personally dont consider myself a fan but I can appreciate the great cars they have built.
@@invalid8774 "the best quality" 🤣🤣🤣 how to get them perfect" 🤣🤣🤣 "the Rolls-Royce of sportscars" 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣. You've obviously never had to work on one. What most of the tifosi fanbois never want to admit is that, especially pre-Di Montezemolo (who has some sleazy issues of his own, but IMO turned the company around mostly for the better), most Ferraris were not built that well at all, even when factoring in the time period and contemporary competitors. Enzo himself was not exactly astute engineering-wise, and the road cars were rarely on the cutting edge technologically. The road car side of the house was just a money-machine to fund the race team, as far as Enzo was concerned, and he didn't give a rat's ass about the customers. You call out the Countach for (deserved) criticism, while neglecting the abysmal Mondial produced during the same era. Daytonas are notorious for overheating. F355s are a maintenance nightmare. The switchgear used on ALL OF THEM for two to three decades is infamous for turning to the consistency of melted gummy bears. Ad nauseam. Porsches are far superior as actual CARS, giving 90% (or better) of the performance for 50% (or less) of the cost, with REAL every-day usability and durability since the 60's, not just since the last decade. Ferrari *have* made some absolutely stunning cars, and the modern ones especially are mega performers, but let's be real here and acknowledge that a significant part of the "image" and mystique around Ferrari is plain old-fashioned pretentiousness and ego.
@@jsquared1013 I dont like my points getting ripped out of context. I didnt say the cars were perfect, I said Ferrari have a great eye for details and nail them. That said all you point out is totally true and fair but I never said anything else. For exotic sports cars, Ferraris are good quality. Compared to a toyota they are a pos. All exotic supercars are. And yeah Porsche builds way better cars that are actually usable and the cost a lot less too. Thats why you see way more porsches than Ferraris. And thats why a Ferrari is something special while a Porsche is quite a lot less special (depending on the model, motorheads sure will be stunned by a 918 oder a Carrera 2.7). And I dont get why you call me a tifosi. I just know Tifosi as scuderia ferrari fans, not fans of the car brand in general. And Im not a big fan of either, Im a car fan and ferrari has built a lot of great cars. And yeah they have built crap like the mondial, at that time Id gotten a lambo and many others did too. Thats why the countach is more recognized than the miura or the diablo. But the majority is great and has a big fanbase. Also they have built by far the most exotic sports cars ever. Lambo is still single digits with road going sports cars (Miura, Countach, Diablo, Murcielago, Gallardo, Aventador & Huracan - thats 7). Mclaren has built a ton in recent years but dont have that history. And who else is there really? Königsegg, Pagani and Bugatti are on another level, I wouldnt compare them to Ferrari. Porsche is the only brand that has a similar rich history of building great sports cars. But they arent that exotic. And thats the point.
This sounds like an extreme version of how Cosworth was founded. Keith Duckworth was working for Lotus trying to make the Queerbox work, but Colin wouldn't listen to his suggested improvements and didn't want to invest the capital to make them happen. Keith left to start Cosworth with Mike Costin, except without Mike for 3 years because Colin had just coerced Mike into signing an extension to his contract.
Without that agnelli money. Ferrari wouldnt have the money to lure schumacher-brawn without them no .Mclaren would have had all the titles ferrari got.
Aidan did you neglect to mention that Chirs Harris was able to get the 'Holy Trinity' together on a track and have one of the best (if not the best) car journalist, Tiff Needell along with him?
The have the power of propaganda. Which doesn’t count for much when you’re actually trying to build a good car and successful team, hence their inability to win a championship since 2007.
I agree with Enzo, forex i despise those who talked shit about the 2019 Ferrari. I want anybody to make a better example, maybe a collection of 1k people can do it thrice. It's not "that is shit", it is "that is good, but is it good enough? What are the steps we can take from our expertise, and the lessons we can take from others to produce something that is even better?" You call it shit you deny it can be improved. Ferrari did great during the midseason, Alfa also shows that the steps they make in the PU division are good and definitely in the right direction. It is not "shit, ok, best". And domain counts, ie in relation to what?
The start and the end of this video are connected beautifully. When you say that Ferrari makes Bunches of money off of its branding you are completely correct and this is why they are so harshly controlling what media and owners do with their cars. You won't get some idiot to pay $400 for $10 cologne with a Ferrari badge on it if he sees Ferrari getting its pants pulled down by McLaren
All I've learnt today is that Ferrari was even worse than I already thought. I've never desired a Ferrari, and couldn't give a hairy fig if they were to leave F1. The sport would be better off without them. Mind you, it doesn't help the sport that Red Bull seem to be taking pages from the Ferrari playbook as well.
Mille miglia-- gli is like a yee sound from yeet, not lying! With just a tiny l in there some where, very subtle. So it is meeeellaaaaa meelyyyeeuhhhh If that makes.
I read an article in a car magazine where a motoring journalist went to Italy to drive and report on a new Lamborghini. The journo decided (for reasons he doesn't understand) to drive to the Ferrari works; on arrival he stopped outside the entrance whereupon he was approached by an employee, a fellow Brit as it so happened. Without wasting time the employee said "what do you think your doing bringing that thing here, I want you to get out of here now" or words to that effect, the poor journo didn't know what had hit him.
You didn't pause long enough it's "Ferrari is possibly one of the most famous brands.......................................................... ........................................................ ................................................................................................. ................................................................. ...................................................................................................................IN THE WORLD!"
Harris bought a Ferrari , found he couldn't afford it and through his toys out of the pram. Pistonheads forum was full of his mardarsery at the time but it's all deleted now. The lesson learned was don't try the "Don't you realise who I am " against Ferrari
Aidan uploads something about modern F1: I sleep Aidan uploads some useless trivia about the goog ol' days: Real sh1t? Ps: As a native spanish speaker, I'd love to hear you speaking a full sentence on Spanish.
@@Castigar48 Thanks. One of the wonders of simracing is that you get to meet people from all over the world and practice your English with them. I have made some great friends on the US that I visited a couple of times, which has helped my English a lot.
It still happens today and "Ferrari wouldn't be Ferrari without it".....they are in that unique position where good public relations is bad for their brand identity.
Yeaaaaahhhhh talking crap to the boss about the boss’ wife? That is a choice…. And it’s never going to go the way you think. The boss shares a bed and an entire life with them. There’s no possible way you can win that.
@@AidanMillward careful and well argued. That's the plain true, just looks at the vast majority of yours comments below your videos. Facts. You put the effort to reply me but fail to run the extra mile to make a good answer. You disappointed me, Mr. Millward.
@@AidanMillward yeah, but now you need to deal with a worse customer service and have italian everywhere, also the Huracan is expensive AF against the R8, also the R8 sound better, dont @ me
2:08 In other Words. Enzo's God. Dino's Christ. and you must not speak the truth about the cars' flaws. or Get burned to death. And The Big N (Nintendo) did it similar. but in a different story and twist.
I am still mad at elon musk over the labor standards of his families emerald mines and the fact he wanted to coup the democratically elected government of bolivia.
Kinda sounds like your projecting modern day standards on to a 20th century man/industrialist. Different time, different culture, different social norms.
@@AidanMillward he was an arsehole. Im glad he's not around anymore. Judging by his interactions with other subscriptions, he was here to purely cause trouble
I SPEAK SPANISH killed me. Still I appreciate this is not a comedy show. Tiny jokes, mostly well placed, not always funny, always British. Stick with that recipe. (Yeah, I know, Brits and cooking….)
I find it interesting that in a video about Enzo's wife we see a bride dress cover on you wall, I'm not aware of your civic status but, if it means what i think it means, then congrads are in order.
The Ferrari in the organization they run is the most overrated in all of Auto sports and car building. If you want to waste your money you buy a Ferrari.
Now that I think about it. It is true that Ferrari has done impressive things in the past but arrogance is just annoying and I don't have patience for it. Sort of like McLaren when they were with Honda. They blamed the engine until they couldn't anymore then they humbled themselves and built a better car. As far as I know at least that's how it happened.
@@driver1140dg yeah well the Honda engine was shit too. Sure later it was realised that McLaren chassis wasn't as good as touted but that doesn't take away how truly terrible on every metric the Honda engine was.
This explains why Honda with the NSX and McLaren with the MP4-12C went to such lengths to produce cars designed around the concept of being better in every way than the comparable Ferrari's of the time, both cars notable for being quicker, cheaper, and easier to live with than their Italian counterparts. It's also why Ferrari has put so much into the aero of their modern cars, they used to be very pretty with lots of power, now they look moreso like Adrian Newey's wet dreams rather than automotive masterpieces
Acura made the nsx i know Acuras a part of honda but still
At the time the NSX was being developed Honda provided McLaren’s engines and, McLaren’s driver Ayrton Senna had input into the car’s development.
@@fnafboy-fnafgirlssistercar685 Acura puts a badge on Honda developed cars.
@@fnafboy-fnafgirlssistercar685 HONDA made the NSX Acura is the luxury model to upsell their cars with pretty headlights and taillights lol but it’s Honda who manufactures it all
@@fnafboy-fnafgirlssistercar685 it's only an Acura in the states where they thought the luxury branding would help justify the cost and improve sales. Nearly everywhere else Honda is the only company. Lexus, Toyota's luxury division, was also created primarily for the US market
There's also the fact that Laura had a powerful weapon to hold over Enzo. She knew that he'd had a long-term affair with a woman who gave birth to a son. Enzo's son. And since at the time you couldn't divorce in Italy, she could make Enzo's life hell and he couldn't do anything about it. She also issued an ultimatum that the boy-Piero Lardi-was to have nothing to do with the company as long as she was alive. It wasn't until after Laura's passing that Enzo acknowledged Piero as his son. Today, Piero Ferrari holds his father's shares in Ferrari, is a vice president, and lives in Enzo's old house with his family
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To add insult to injury, Lina was apparently having an(other?) affair with Girolamo himself…
Yeah, that sounds like an Italian marriage.
yeah thats a standard italian romantic relationship
Enzo was infamous for keeping, and sleeping with his dead drivers wives. The more I read about him, the less I like him.
With that "shoot the messenger" management style it's no wonder Ferrari's achievements in F1 don't match their expenditure.
Interesting tale. Never knew his wife played such a big role in the walkout.
On a side note, blue and tan is a gorgeous combo. Fight me.
BuT aLL fERRaRiS hAVe to Be ReD
@@AidanMillward red or yellow, any other color is just not right, don't try to change my mind im always right(like enzo)
@@JoseRodriguez-ey7ju They look best in British Racing Green. You are entitled to your incorrect opinion though.
If I had my way every mid engined Ferrari would be red, but no front engined Ferrari would be. They all look better in dark blue, silver or black
@@Official_MikeyT This is true. Ask David Piper about his 250 LM.
I think the issue that Top Gear with Clarkson, Hammond and May with the hypercar shootout confirms what Chris Harris was saying, since obviously Porsche was cool with whatever, McLaren wanted showroom spec cars, and when Porsche and McLaren agreed to the showroom spec cars stipulation then Ferrari freaked out saying they'd ban people from buying their cars if one was given
Well when Chris Harris tested the three on his TH-cam channel before he moved to Top Gear. Simple fact was the McLaren was faster at Portimao on both its standard and more hardcore tyres. Porsche probably didn't care because let's be honest they practically set a new Nurburgring production car lap record every week so they don't need to prove themselves. That and McLaren wanted showroom spec as they wanted a fair fight. Ferrari making this big song and dance about it just goes to show how prevalent this mindset is at Ferrari of "our way or the highway" its probably why Mercedes has been kicking the living hell out of them for years in F1.
@@teabagtowers3823 haha pretty much spot on with F1. It's just that RB is kicking them now and even Merc is catching up to them.
When everyone walked out, Ferrari lost Chiti to Alfa. This led to the Alfa V12s years later in the 70s and the F1 effort in the 80s, and the dominant tipo 33 in 75-77. That must have stung.
Out of desperation, Ferrari handed the reigns to Mauro Foghieri, who was way too young, but led to many years of crap F1 cars until the 312T.
DiMontezemolo then took over the F1 team at age 26. How does a fresh university grad lawyer suddenly run Ferrari F1? Might have to do with the fact that he was the illegitimate son of Gianni Agnelli.
Gianni Agnelli? How?
Enzo’s ethics were always suspect in his dealing with other people. Especially with drivers he would always play one off against the others, notably offering a drive to Sterling Moss only to have given the seat to someone else by the time that Moss had arrived. Sterling did the only correct thing and refused to have anything to do with the man.
Same with Gurney - even early in his career - left after 5 races when he recognized the internal politics that was ongoing and unlikely to cease.
Fun fact, the only guy that wasn't fired after saying the car was shit or criticizing Ferrari was indeed Lauda I think Rush kinda relates the entire thing.
Even Prost got fired by them after some critics and he was a 3 times World Champion at the time.
Enzo Ferrari's only surviving offspring Piero cannot formerly be acknowledged by Enzo until his wife died in 1978 (divorce wasn't legal in Italy until 1975). Piero owns about 10% of Ferrari.
Good for him, he should design a car called the Ferrari bastardo lol
AM has one of the best British voices out there. Sounds like he has a seat in Parliament.
I always say that the fundamental difference between Colin Chapman and Enzo Ferrari is that Chapman was an educated engineer with experience from the aircraft industry whereas Ferrari had little formal education and began as a factory worker post-WWI and got his chance to race cars. I firmly believe this reflected itself in the vastly different approaches of the car makers, particularly in their racing cars.
In my mind the engineers should be in charge of a company producing high-tech products. How did the Boeing 737MAX happen? On the net the consensus seems to be this:"Boeing used to be controlled by the engineers, now it's controlled by the accountants..." Well, at least Enzo Ferrari wasn't an accountant. :)
Lotus is extinct, Ferrari still exist.
@@6lemans10 yes. And let’s be honest Ferrari ain’t what it used to be either.
There's a few details to this story that need corrections, but also many more to share.
Firstly, Forghieri was not the man Niki Lauda told the Ferrari was shit. It was Enzo himself, with Piero translating for both of them.
Secondly, Enzo had a strong belief that his cars were the absolute best and were perfect, but he was willing to listen to a certain extent. Birnging the Niki Lauda example again: Lauda estimated that if the steering problems on the 312 were to be fixed, he could go about 3 tenths of a second faster.
And Ferrari was like "Okay, I'll give you this chance to prove me wrong, but if you don't succeed, you're gonna have a problem."
Basically, ok, you said the car is shit but if you don't turn this shit into gold, you're out.
And then Lauda went eight tenths quicker.
Lastly, many of Ferrari's coworkers (Forghieri and Montezemolo included) often bring up the fact that Enzo, being struck with tragedy multiple times, decided to isolate himself from everyone just so he couldn't suffer again. In fact, since Dino died at 24, he had very little emotional connections with anyone. All of the people he deeply and openly loved, such as his own parents, his brother Alfredo who died when Enzo was like 20, engineer Vittorio Jano who was very close to Enzo and committed suicide once he discovered he'd been diagnosed with a terminal tumor... everyone died. Including drivers he was very close with, such as Tazio Nuvolari (who Enzo considered the greatest driver who ever lived), Alberto Ascari and Lorenzo Bandini... all dead.
With so many deaths mourned, the passing of Dino and Laura were, no pun intended, the final nail in the coffin for Enzo, who became a shell of his former self with no desire to share an emotional connection with anyone, so ho could not suffer no longer.
Until a certain Gilles Villeneuve came about.
You've all seen the photo: Enzo and Villeneuve sharing a laugh. If we were to listen to the people who worked at Ferrari at that time, they all said that in that period, Enzo was the happiest he'd been in ages up to that point. And then we all know what happened at Zolder in 1982.
The passing of Gilles Villeneuve felt like he had lost Dino once again, and it was devastating.
We can all crap on Enzo all day long, and many criticism is pretty well deserved if I say so myself (despite being an Italian myself and loving Ferrari till pigs learn to fly), but we gotta remember how many tragedies he had to live through, many of which were pretty personal to him.
The man was definitely tricky to deal with. And his behavior was as complex as his psyche: pretty much impossible to fully understand.
I’m Italian and worked with people like Enzo and this “mentality” of perfectionism along with a bit of totalitarianism. Also having my entire family wiped out in a short period of time. It changes people, they go from being happy to being real miserable mother fuckers. You have to understand how passionate and caring Italians are…then it goes totally the other way when things go bad. It gets dark and not fun. It takes some years to come back from it. Then if something else happens again like you said there’s a “nail in the coffin” mentality” that happens or goes on. I think it’s a cultural thing and I don’t think it’s healthy, but it is human. They really close off and get cold. They don’t know how to deal with it and get very very cold and brutal. You can kind of tell how a king could just wipe out a people like ceaser and go “roman” and say…off with all their heads.
TH-cam algorithm for the win. I kinda forgot about this channel after the great copyright debacle. Glad to see you're still going hard in the paint and are coming up with more great content.
That's why I'm very happy Vettel is no longer at Ferrari!
I've Italian heritage andFerrari reminds of some bosses in my former engineering jobs as technical director. After I would prepare a piece to be machined at a CNC milling center, the boss would come around 10min after: "Is it done?" and I would reply "Sir, it's a 54h process, so no!" and ten minutes later: "Is it done?" and on and on and would accuse me of being incompetent for not working faster despite working within the assigned deadlines. That and trying to explain me how to do my job, while not having a hint of a clue about it. I'm always happy to get wisdom from the old guard but that was just bollocks.
Other than Lauda and Gino Rancati's books (and his own autobiography, of course) I have not read many first hand account of Ferrari the man. Luca Dal Monte was too reverential, and Brock Yates tabloid-like almost to the point of libelous. It's like there's an omerta about him still.
Suggestion for story time. The Tasman series in the 60s.
AM, another great bit of history. Your stuff is tops.
I like old Ferrari. Now it's all aero, hybrids and 4wd. It's very different from the Ferrari of my childhood.
They had to change. Big engines alone don’t make great cars. The og NSX made that pretty clear Aero makes cars faster without the for need more hp. Hybrids make them more efficient. And 4K d drive makes them more stable. Cause let’s be honest most Ferraris don’t ever touch a track.
Blue over tan is a great spec btw
Excellent video, as always Mr Alford.
These are the reasons - most of them - that I have no time for Ferrari as a brand or team. Chapman was often considered as cold-hearted when it came to losing drivers, but given that at times he was overwhelmed with grief in public, and knowing that British (especially English) guys of his generation had been brought up to keep their emotions bottled up, particularly in public, I don't think he was like that at all. He did his grieving at home, I'm positive about that.
Enzo, however, was every bit as callous as you said - and probably more so. For an Italian, he showed few emotions in public, but from stories I've heard, he showed none in private either. To him, drivers, and everyone else who worked for him were replaceable. Things don't seem to have changed much, either.
No, I'll pass on a Ferrari, but give me an E-type (or an XK8/R; the spiritual successor to the E-type - and designed by a woman), and I'll be happy. In fact the only nice thing I've ever heard from Enzo was about that car. He called it the most beautiful car in the world. That was the one thing about which I would ever agree with him.
Oh great a new video. 👏👏 On a side note, the white of the awesome mic is rather bright & distracting. Is there a way to tone it down. A black dead cat cover, maybe?
It's called a "Rycote"... 😂🤣😂
Great video! Kinda tarnished my obsession with Ferarri. But it's hard to argue with so many beautiful cars over the years. The passion is evident in every detail. There's just nothing quite like them
FYI.. Much like Ferrari ,,,So does Harley-Davidson, my wife was once VEEP there. The waiting list to purchase a motorcycle, is purely contrived and a marketing strategy. They make more on aftermarket bits and bob (think Chrome Kickstand with Harley Davidson stamped on it) and officially licensed merchandise like TShirts, coffee cups, playing cards et al.
That’s exactly what I thought too when he said that. HD makes more in merchandise than they do bikes.
I believe it was the BMW badge they put on the plate of sick. The Ferrari badge was on the wizards sleeve lol
Thinking back when i was a teenager, none of the posters on my wall was a ferrari. I didn't see the appeal of them, and i still dont to this day. Its the car rich people buy when they can't be arsed to put any thought into it. I can't think of any price bracket where I'd want a Ferrari over the competition. Cheaper supercar looks, get a Lotus, breakneck supercar speeds, handling and latest carbonfibre manufacturing tech, get a McLaren, ultimate in engineering with unlimited budget, get a koenigsegg, best acceleration with practicality, get a Tesla. I just don't see where Ferrari fit in anywhere. They've done bugger all in F1 too, they contributed nothing over the years (last to adopt rear-engine cars, carbon fibre, etc) and all the ingenious aero advancements over the past 20 years were done by teams other than Ferrari - they flaunt the badge, suck the most money out of F1 and show nothing for it, and then churn out the same old fundamental designs for their road cars. As with Donald Trump, if you praise yourself enough and say how important you are for long enough, morons will believe it without questioning it and promote you to positions you're too inept to handle.
They did the paddle shifters in the 90s if I'm not mistaken.
Ferrari is the definition of luxury, exclusivity and branding. That's what people support it and buy it for.
@@Cos_Why_Not luxury? The McLaren hydraulic suspension deals with bad roads as well as a Rolls Royce. Whats so luxurious about a Ferrari? And its hardly exclusive. Koenigsegg would be exclusive.
@@aaronaaronsen3360 you are correct. Personally i don’t like Ferraris that much and don’t like Enzo as a person, but to say they’ve never innovated or made really good f1 cars is a lie. I agree that for how much money they have and the resources they have they’ve done terrible in that regard. But they have had a few eras where they made the best cars in the grid.
@@tonyhawk123 What's exclusive about Ferrari? Do you know anything about their business practises? They have waiting lists, limited amount of produced cars, they're expensive, and some Ferraris can even be sold for more than they were bought. Not only that, Ferrari requires you to sign contracts to buy their cars. All you need to do to see their success is look at the amount of cars sold relative to revenue, or things like market cap or brand value. I understand that from a purely performance side, Ferrari isn't always actually the best, most comfortable or fastest but that's not what the value of the company is based on.
I keep telling my friends, if im ever in the position to afford these cars i would never buy a ferrari. Company is the definition of asshole
Nice one Aidan... ✊🏾...
I'm not a Ferrari fan, my "Prancing Horse" is Ferdinand's...
[ 3:42 ] - Yep, that painting is pretty grim 🙈😱. But to have lunch _before_ viewing it, or to have lunch _after_ viewing it? ⚖️🤔.
Well, it's questionable whether the lunch and the painting are reconcilable at all 🖼️🤷🍖 , however, if you have lunch _before_ viewing,.. you alluded to the risk you might throw it up 🤢🚽.
But if you decide to have lunch _after_ viewing it,.. well, although you might be put off the lunch 🍖🤐, at least there would be a decision to be made,.. and it would be in your hands as opposed to being all over your carpets 😊.
And Enzo Ferrari? 🤔 . . . Umm,.. yeah, why not? Nice shirts, that man. Always thought so! 👍. ( You're a _brilliant_ story teller! 👏. I wouldn't have searched half of these topics otherwise. Arrived courtesy of 90's motorsport; stayed for the rest ).
- LFCB.
Oddly, I’ve never actually looked at it.
Never understood the appeal of the dancing donkey myself.
I prefer Lambos, and maintain the only three good looking Ferraris are the F40, 355 and the 458.
@@AidanMillward 458 is a very pretty car agreed
The brand has a rich history of building the best sports cars of the time. The fastest in a straight line and on track, the best handling, the best quality and an exceptional eye for details and how to get them perfect. They are the rolls royce of sports cars.
Nowerdays the 488 e.g. is known for being a perfectly fine daily driver, he handles rough roads through the country side, interstates, you can park him decently and if you want you can just pull into a track and go for it without any worries. That is for exotic sportscars, which basicly suck against acutual daily drivers.
But look at the countach, where you couldnt reverse without sticking your head outside with the wing door open. You cant park that. It also kills you if you shift wrong.
And other brands never had that package.
Bugatti didnt exit for decades, Mclaren built one car until recently and that was a legend but you cant build a brand on one product.
Porsche has been up there but they never really got to it. Also most Porsches dont fullfill the promises a 918 Spyder sets. A 458 is maybe not as fast as a la Ferrari but damn quick nonetheless and a brilliant car in itsself.
Lamborghini build suicide rockets, interesting cars but there were way to few and they were way to much worry to get to the same level as Ferrari has. They are a very respected brand but for totally different reasons and the appeal of the cars has been a nieche before Audi took over and attacked Ferrari more directly with properly usable cars.
But they flooded the market.
Ferraris are kinda rare, they are special. Maybe Bugatti is on that level of special, some models of other brands like the Aventador or the SLS AMG are too but for Ferrari it doesnt really matter which one you see, they are all special.
And thats the deal about Ferrari.
I personally dont consider myself a fan but I can appreciate the great cars they have built.
@@invalid8774 "the best quality" 🤣🤣🤣 how to get them perfect" 🤣🤣🤣 "the Rolls-Royce of sportscars" 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣. You've obviously never had to work on one. What most of the tifosi fanbois never want to admit is that, especially pre-Di Montezemolo (who has some sleazy issues of his own, but IMO turned the company around mostly for the better), most Ferraris were not built that well at all, even when factoring in the time period and contemporary competitors. Enzo himself was not exactly astute engineering-wise, and the road cars were rarely on the cutting edge technologically. The road car side of the house was just a money-machine to fund the race team, as far as Enzo was concerned, and he didn't give a rat's ass about the customers.
You call out the Countach for (deserved) criticism, while neglecting the abysmal Mondial produced during the same era. Daytonas are notorious for overheating. F355s are a maintenance nightmare. The switchgear used on ALL OF THEM for two to three decades is infamous for turning to the consistency of melted gummy bears. Ad nauseam. Porsches are far superior as actual CARS, giving 90% (or better) of the performance for 50% (or less) of the cost, with REAL every-day usability and durability since the 60's, not just since the last decade. Ferrari *have* made some absolutely stunning cars, and the modern ones especially are mega performers, but let's be real here and acknowledge that a significant part of the "image" and mystique around Ferrari is plain old-fashioned pretentiousness and ego.
@@jsquared1013 I dont like my points getting ripped out of context.
I didnt say the cars were perfect, I said Ferrari have a great eye for details and nail them.
That said all you point out is totally true and fair but I never said anything else. For exotic sports cars, Ferraris are good quality. Compared to a toyota they are a pos. All exotic supercars are.
And yeah Porsche builds way better cars that are actually usable and the cost a lot less too. Thats why you see way more porsches than Ferraris. And thats why a Ferrari is something special while a Porsche is quite a lot less special (depending on the model, motorheads sure will be stunned by a 918 oder a Carrera 2.7).
And I dont get why you call me a tifosi. I just know Tifosi as scuderia ferrari fans, not fans of the car brand in general.
And Im not a big fan of either, Im a car fan and ferrari has built a lot of great cars.
And yeah they have built crap like the mondial, at that time Id gotten a lambo and many others did too. Thats why the countach is more recognized than the miura or the diablo.
But the majority is great and has a big fanbase.
Also they have built by far the most exotic sports cars ever. Lambo is still single digits with road going sports cars (Miura, Countach, Diablo, Murcielago, Gallardo, Aventador & Huracan - thats 7).
Mclaren has built a ton in recent years but dont have that history. And who else is there really?
Königsegg, Pagani and Bugatti are on another level, I wouldnt compare them to Ferrari.
Porsche is the only brand that has a similar rich history of building great sports cars. But they arent that exotic. And thats the point.
You should do a extra long storytime on all of ferraris shadey tactics and lies
This sounds like an extreme version of how Cosworth was founded.
Keith Duckworth was working for Lotus trying to make the Queerbox work, but Colin wouldn't listen to his suggested improvements and didn't want to invest the capital to make them happen. Keith left to start Cosworth with Mike Costin, except without Mike for 3 years because Colin had just coerced Mike into signing an extension to his contract.
What model is the hot wheels still in the package in the background
Volvo 850 Estate
Without that agnelli money. Ferrari wouldnt have the money to lure schumacher-brawn without them no .Mclaren would have had all the titles ferrari got.
Aidan did you neglect to mention that Chirs Harris was able to get the 'Holy Trinity' together on a track and have one of the best (if not the best) car journalist, Tiff Needell along with him?
"It's a sh*tbox!"
Niki Lauda, probably
ITS A FERRARI 😨
Ferrari has been acknowledged as the most recognized brand in the World.
The have the power of propaganda. Which doesn’t count for much when you’re actually trying to build a good car and successful team, hence their inability to win a championship since 2007.
Simon Whistler fan here as well! Alegendly
I agree with Enzo, forex i despise those who talked shit about the 2019 Ferrari. I want anybody to make a better example, maybe a collection of 1k people can do it thrice. It's not "that is shit", it is "that is good, but is it good enough? What are the steps we can take from our expertise, and the lessons we can take from others to produce something that is even better?" You call it shit you deny it can be improved. Ferrari did great during the midseason, Alfa also shows that the steps they make in the PU division are good and definitely in the right direction. It is not "shit, ok, best". And domain counts, ie in relation to what?
The start and the end of this video are connected beautifully. When you say that Ferrari makes Bunches of money off of its branding you are completely correct and this is why they are so harshly controlling what media and owners do with their cars. You won't get some idiot to pay $400 for $10 cologne with a Ferrari badge on it if he sees Ferrari getting its pants pulled down by McLaren
Didn't expect to hear Simon Whistlers name.
i suspect he'll be working it in often now. It's not the first time!
All I've learnt today is that Ferrari was even worse than I already thought. I've never desired a Ferrari, and couldn't give a hairy fig if they were to leave F1. The sport would be better off without them. Mind you, it doesn't help the sport that Red Bull seem to be taking pages from the Ferrari playbook as well.
Sergio Marchioni was another epic piece of work!
The nod to Simon 🤣
oswell e spencer be like someone say umbrella 👀👀👀👀?
Mille miglia-- gli is like a yee sound from yeet, not lying! With just a tiny l in there some where, very subtle. So it is meeeellaaaaa meelyyyeeuhhhh If that makes.
I read an article in a car magazine where a motoring journalist went to Italy to drive and report on a new Lamborghini. The journo decided (for reasons he doesn't understand)
to drive to the Ferrari works; on arrival he stopped outside the entrance whereupon he was approached by an employee, a fellow Brit as it so happened. Without wasting time the employee said "what do you think your doing bringing that thing here, I want you to get out of here now" or words to that effect, the poor journo didn't know what had hit him.
You didn't pause long enough it's "Ferrari is possibly one of the most famous brands..........................................................
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Simon whistler reference
When's the Ferrari Forghieri coming? He is one of my favourite designers. Looks good for his age too.
He’s in his 80s now if I remember rightly.
@@AidanMillward 85 I think. Yet, he looks 70
u watch simon whistler. huzaa a man of quality
Allegedly
@@beagleuk3233 ba da bum bump tsss
@@marcushay9889 the boi with the blaze!!!! Watching him now lol
Harris bought a Ferrari , found he couldn't afford it and through his toys out of the pram. Pistonheads forum was full of his mardarsery at the time but it's all deleted now. The lesson learned was don't try the "Don't you realise who I am " against Ferrari
Aidan uploads something about modern F1: I sleep
Aidan uploads some useless trivia about the goog ol' days: Real sh1t?
Ps: As a native spanish speaker, I'd love to hear you speaking a full sentence on Spanish.
your english is pretty good in text form.
@@Castigar48 Thanks. One of the wonders of simracing is that you get to meet people from all over the world and practice your English with them. I have made some great friends on the US that I visited a couple of times, which has helped my English a lot.
@@LucasGonzalezA yeah many of my friends ate bilingual English/spanish keep it up
naturalmente Pedro esta mojado, esta parado debajo de una cascada
@@AidanMillward Gracias Aidan
It still happens today and "Ferrari wouldn't be Ferrari without it".....they are in that unique position where good public relations is bad for their brand identity.
Enzo was certainly a giant in motorracing
At 10:18, I was legitimately 12 when that was released and that’s exactly what I did. I was going nuts about it bc why would you not
i hear from vinwiki that to buy a new ferrari is verry difficult unless your a retern custermer of are on there xmas card list
Yeaaaaahhhhh talking crap to the boss about the boss’ wife? That is a choice…. And it’s never going to go the way you think. The boss shares a bed and an entire life with them. There’s no possible way you can win that.
I've got a lot of pulling power too.
We could have had that trio of a battle of hybrids on Top Gear had Clarkson not punched the producer in the face.
They should have interviewed Mrs Ferrari
Seems to have been ahead of his time ole Enzo looking at companies like Rolex.
Aidan Millward likes Pop Tarts.
awesome, i knew Ferrari was a tough place to work but i did not know all of this
"Mill-ey Mee-leea"
full of anglo ferrari's haters. there'no angels nor devils in racing automotive industry.
🥱
@@AidanMillward careful and well argued. That's the plain true, just looks at the vast majority of yours comments below your videos. Facts. You put the effort to reply me but fail to run the extra mile to make a good answer. You disappointed me, Mr. Millward.
Ferrari is far from the most desirable brand for me. I'd far rather have a Porsche or Lamborghini.
mille miglia sounds like _mil-leh meel-ee-ahh_ ;¬)
Aidan's a viewer of the fact boy Simon whistler
I'm convinced he's several clones. No one can have that many TH-cam channels
Yay! Storytime with Aidan!
Meelay meelya is close to how you'd pronounce mille miglia Aidan
Part of me wish it did hurt the company A LOT because, as much as ferrari is cool and all. I fucking hate their arrogance.
Hmmm…. Looks like I’ll be buying a McLaren then.
Buy an R8, cheaper and you will be able to drive that thing, a Ferrari will be a Ferrari and a McLaren will catch fire
Or buy a Lambo which is an R8 with a more badass looking shell.
@@AidanMillward yeah, but now you need to deal with a worse customer service and have italian everywhere, also the Huracan is expensive AF against the R8, also the R8 sound better, dont @ me
@@AidanMillward or buy a mclaren so you dont finance the empire (vw)
@@glockmat I was told by someone not long ago that McLaren is like the Chevy of Supercars. ….???
2:08 In other Words. Enzo's God. Dino's Christ. and you must not speak the truth about the cars' flaws. or Get burned to death. And The Big N (Nintendo) did it similar. but in a different story and twist.
Enzo is pissed.
Should be a t shirt 🤔
Tan leather, james may bought that car 7 mins ago! 🤣😂
I have a question has a American ever won the 24 hours of Bathurst or the 12. Hour
I just watched the Ford vs ferrari film, so loved this extra bit of information about Enzo
I am still mad at elon musk over the labor standards of his families emerald mines and the fact he wanted to coup the democratically elected government of bolivia.
So basically the Italian mafia but in car business
Enzo reminds me a lot of jack roush
Allegedly😏
I always remember how some rich prick's wife bought him a Ferrari as a Christmas present and he wrote it off the first time he drove it!
You are an amazing storyteller...please improve your Italian.
Just don't read the G and go - Mile Milia :)
yet another reason to dislike ferrari.
Kinda sounds like your projecting modern day standards on to a 20th century man/industrialist. Different time, different culture, different social norms.
Close enough
So Enzo and his wife were dictatorial tyrants. Only makes me dislike the Ferrari brand even more.
Nah, they weren't like Henry Ford lol
Whatever happened to the "back to the sim racer nerd" guy?
I blocked him when he started with the personal insults. He got rattled entry easily.
@@AidanMillward he was an arsehole. Im glad he's not around anymore. Judging by his interactions with other subscriptions, he was here to purely cause trouble
obviously i will never purchase a ferrari again.... .
I SPEAK SPANISH killed me. Still I appreciate this is not a comedy show. Tiny jokes, mostly well placed, not always funny, always British. Stick with that recipe.
(Yeah, I know, Brits and cooking….)
It's pronounced Mille Millllia
Cmon Aidan - very lightweight and under researched compared to your usual output!
I find it interesting that in a video about Enzo's wife we see a bride dress cover on you wall, I'm not aware of your civic status but, if it means what i think it means, then congrads are in order.
That was three years ago.
The Ferrari in the organization they run is the most overrated in all of Auto sports and car building. If you want to waste your money you buy a Ferrari.
Like Ford is overrated too, only want to win.
These are somewhat good, but your "whitty satire", is a bit off putting..
Ferrari could quit F1 and I wouldn't care. I'd be bummed that their cars were gone but it wouldn't harm F1 in my eyes.
Now that I think about it. It is true that Ferrari has done impressive things in the past but arrogance is just annoying and I don't have patience for it. Sort of like McLaren when they were with Honda. They blamed the engine until they couldn't anymore then they humbled themselves and built a better car. As far as I know at least that's how it happened.
@@driver1140dg yeah well the Honda engine was shit too. Sure later it was realised that McLaren chassis wasn't as good as touted but that doesn't take away how truly terrible on every metric the Honda engine was.
And now ferrari can't even win a championship, good mentality Mr. Enzo 😎
Are there ANY era in Ferrari's history, when it looked like sane company/racing team????
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