Methodz and Ben go at it in the Heated CDL Debate! 🌶
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ben saying "ive talked about this on my stream", bruh nobody is watching that shit.
not a soul is watching his stream he uses other peoples stream to platform himself
@@DylFromTheMist TBH DIDNT KNOW HE STREAMED i thought he was just zoomaa flank thing opps
He has a stream?
Your weird
Do you feel better saying this?
ben tries to act so smart and makes up situations that haven't ever even happened lmfao
and gets mad about these false situations 😂😂
I still don't get why they have him on the show, he has consistently terrible takes and acts like he owns the league for some reason
He tries so hard bro 😂
he tries to make a point, argues it and then backtracks, then goes on a rant about teams/rosters that were 5 years ago lol
Ben “Are you going to let me finish” Nissim 🔥🔥
Zin literally cooked both of them
Ben J always spewing nonsense then getting proven wrong and backtracking on his invalid opinion
facts
Ben J always yaps and makes no point ever
Holy shit dude you nailed it , your point is so valid 😃
Cannot stand Ben. Get him off the flank please. Let him work behind the scenes
agree he talks over people that have more cred than he would ever have then trys to argue with them
@@itsmrfatal5373 he's also an absolute prick if someone cuts him off, despite everyone else being shockingly okay with him inserting his dogshit opinions in the middle of someone else's sentence
This is good for the scene 😂 You avid weirdo haters are just weird imo
@@OilFPSwipe your mouth when you’re done with Ben 🤡
@@underground5682 cringe
Will never forgive tommy zoomaa for giving this guy ben a platform
Bro, Ben is a retrospect merchant holy
Cuyler getting dropped should be clear evidence that it is not a friend ship league this shit is straight business
They dropped the new guy who performed the best at the major so their friend could join wym lol
@hybwid yeah they picked dude they won champs with back up and let huke go, plus if you ACTUALLY watched you'd see the team dynamic wasn't there when Huke was on the team. Hes talented but he doesn't mesh well with his old duo anymore much less rest of the team. He would've been kept if it was a TRUE friendship league.
@@hybwid lol they picked up a guy who's proven could win with them at the highest level after one season with them over their close friend who's been with them twice now and hasn't won jack shit. Its the opposite of a friendship league
@@hybwidthey became friends after playing together not before lmao also the friend helped them win champs this comment makes no sense
@@hybwidhuke and shottzy are best friends lol
"Its a friendship league"
"So who shouldnt be there then?"
"Well thats not for me to say"
Biggest cop out ever 😂
Bro was not standing on business
Bro had no balls. He folded so quick
Ben is always saying the dumbest shit then going “not an on stream convo” then everyone dogs on him and he doesn’t know what to do
He’s just confused he never even played a lick of comp on cod so I don’t why we actually listen to his takes I never have I ignore this guy but he literally agreed with zen just to say dumb shit to keep zen in longer😂 honestly kinda funny
They need to bring back CWL format, challenger mixed with pro for majors. Start playing Thursday to decide seeds and challenger have shot. That was fun watching every major. On LAN! No more online dumbness.
That’s actually insane. I never watched the CWL cuz of school and sports but I look at the clips from the events they had and it was crazy . Def should go bring it back 🔥
CWL was the height of competitive CoD. Made and ran by people who loved the game🥲
I agree with Zinni 100%
ppl were literally calling for faze to blow it up the first month of the season lmao
Let’s hear what Ben has to say on the subject….welp Ben is wrong again 😂
Bens talking about friendship league when the only reason he has any platform as low as it is, is because of Zoomaa
Ben just sounds confused lmao
Attach, Nastie, purj, wake, preistahh, and Paulehx all could’ve been dropped tbh, not saying they SHOULD be dropped but if they were I would see why
I honestly don’t think Ben could make it out of plat on ranked let alone be crim or iri
He acts and thinks like a gold 1
Hate too bust your bubble, but ben has been crim or higher for the last 3 cod games in ranked
that's like saying because you have never been a ref you can't say a certain call was bad or if someone is breaking the law you can't call them out because you aren't a lawyer. He does mostly analysis which isn't bad. I don't need to be on a football team to say someone is offsides.
@@JayJayKz you could be a bronze player and pros could carry you that high
I mean Ben is absolute shit with a controller in hand, but he 100% knows cod and how it should be played/how a mini map should look. He yaps constantly and can be super annoying but Idk what his rank matters lol
Watching zooma react to this whole argument and getting triggered by ben was the funniest shit
Ben wants to be viewed as an expert so bad...
"I know of a situation..."
"Im a pundit"...
This guy should not have a platform LOL
calling felo "next up" is honestly insulting to the work he put in all these years.
Every time when he’s been in the league he’s been a walking 0.8 0.9 😅
@@WilliamSteur-dm2qw didnt say he deserves to be in the league. I actually think the opposite. My point was he has been around over a decade so "next up" is an incorrect term. He is a gate keeper to the league. Nothing more. That also doesnt mean he isnt extremely talented.. its just...the jets lost a step or 2
Who remembers fero
What game is he playing
methodz iz on point !!
“What about surge 2019.” You mean the team that had the 3x champ, 2 guys off a finals roster, a 2x champ and a WELL seasoned vet? That was a solid team on paper.
Ben - "IDGAF who get's mad at what I say" I guarantee you ben no pros care about your opinion enough to get upset an anything you have to say.
ben always says its a secret that i only know but i wont say it
Ben talks in a way where it seems he just wants to sound like he knows what he’s talking about
4:56 100% agree! Cloud9 was invited to the offseason kaysan lan bc based on the roster on paper Many thought they would be the 4th/5th best team
Ben talks like hes not fucking plat in ranked😂
facts lmao
Ben: lemme give you two examples
*right after zinni gives three off the top of his head*
“I can say whatever I want. Im a pundit.” Ben, being a random geek on a stream doesn’t mean you’re a pundit. It just means Zooma mad the bad choice to let you use a mic.
What game is on the screen?
zin is def a bronny fan
Ben is such a hard headed dude bro. Like stop tryna win arguments and accept when someone says something that makes sense. u can’t discuss things with people like that until they grow up
ben knows things cuz he's been around but he constantly talks to these guys that are ex-cod champions or multiple time winners. they know what its like to win and how the whole competitive scene takes place. he needs to realize that he is often the end of these debates simply due to not everything being "book" written like how he things lol...
Zin COOKED on this one
C9 had a good preseasons expectations because they had chem as surge
They need more teams
People who say friendship league forget you need to have chemistry for a team to be good. If a team has had prior success then it makes sense they would want to team together. It has nothing to do with friendships
Out of topic but what is Zinni playing?
Off the grid
@ thanks
Ngl these conservations need to be had more often… If we’re just recycling challenger players might as well make tournaments 8 groups 4 teams again and just grow cod viewership lol
Competitive COD would be better off dropping Ben, The guy creates pointless drama just so he can be in the conversation.
The league is a friendship league today because of one pickup in BO2.
The games at the Lan were for the most part pretty close. Constant game 5 round 11s but its a friendship league where people are protecting spots over getting wins.
Ben literally picks 1-2 teams from different seasons and acts like that’s enough proof to call the entire league a friendship league. Brother, just because SOME teams are like that doesn’t mean the entire league is like that.
Anyone know what game he’s playing ?
Who would’ve thought Methodz who is a friend of these pros wouldn’t think some teams prefer friends over non-friend challenger players. If it’s close these pros immediately default to what feels familiar aka past friendship
I mostly don't agree with the whole "friendship league" but I think Methodz feels the need to defend the friendship league stuff because he feels indirectly attacked as his entire career including post retirement has relied entirely on "friendships".
ben lies when he tries to revise history. zoomaa has caught him saying “i sad X was gonna happen” and zoomaa goes back to the vod and been is like “i think Y will happen”
idk why people argue with Ben, he can’t ever be wrong 😂
Ben got destroyed and he just tried his hardest to not pull out on it
i hate how ben always says i know but no one else knows and im not gonna say anything about it
lmaoooooo Bro who tf is Ben first of all, second off, he couldn't be more wrong if he tried lmaooooo. talk about ragebait. irrelevant opinion from whoever that lame is
Methodz “it is less friendship league then ever before” Ben “what about LAG in Cold War? what about Seattle in MW2?” bro’s hella dumb he’s talking about now not years ago..
He just brought up NYSL and they finished 2nd at champs last year
Ben is so insufferable who gave this .15 KD a platform to speak on call of duty his takes are so shit and he’s a whiny little baby.
no way he has made you this mad
@ I’m not mad it’s just the truth where did you get I’m mad from the whole comment? Is this Ben’s burner he’s not gonna fuck you dawg
ive been wondering that since i heard his name
Knowing cod and being bad at cod itself has nothing to do with Knowing and talking about it… how many nba coaches are ass at ball ? Or didn’t hoop themselves ? Or in football/soccer….
@ he’s pretty off with his takes but again Ben’s not going to fuck you it’s my opinion. And from the comments a lot of people agree 🤣🤣.
ben was not saying any of this in off season, why does he constantly try change history
There goes Ben interrupting ppl again.
Ben just speaks out of his ass and spews bullshit
i know this doesnt belong but i left the halo comp scene because i knew when i went to my first tourney that it was a friendship league. Now look at them...
its a friendship league but its not for me to say who should get dropped
dumbest shit ever
i hate whenever ben or rafi or anyone has this take. you cant call out something but not call it out in its entirety. At that point why even say anything?
@@michaelramirez257 Exactly!
Only good thing when Ben speaks is, I know its a great time to go turn the kettle on, and make a cuppa. I know I won't miss any content and don't have to listen to his waffle
What pisses me off is that the people in the cdl or even cod community are scared to call things out. From scump to methods or many others. They talk about the issues but never talk, or they are scared to call out a name. Or say the truth. The league sucks. Players and teams are to play.
Shotzzy was calling everybody out few weeks ago
When will Zooma stop letting Ben hinder his career and drop him already? I know 10 people PERSONALLY that stopped watching anything zooma related because of Ben, imagine how many others there are just like that
If anybody is a friendship team it's fuckin FaZe. Them MFs don't ever split . 🤣🤣😂😂
I think it’s both tbh
People have no respect for Ben when he’s trying to speak 😂 it’s so sad . Plus the same people who don’t give the respect want’s it.
This guys logic
Attach has been bad for a while.
Zinni in 14:00 moving forward is the perfect pov why Ben can be annoying
That Seattle team was not bad until the game happpened. If it we Bo4 they actually would have been solid. Maybe a team a change away
Idk who all these people are but the friendship league guy is clearly farming complaints for easy impressions and can’t back it up. The league has serious problems but rosters change all the time and no one is being stubborn enough to take for friends
The way Ben says Dontais name pisses me offfff
Ben is smart, but in this specific conversation, I think he is a little faded here.
Methods is just projecting his hatred towards optic for dropping huke after.a good major.
Is there a medication Ben can take to fix everything about him?
I mean the league just in a sad state tbh, I wouldn't completely call it a friendship league. But for the most part the league consists of 5 teams that are actually competitive and the rest are just placeholders for the upper teams to stomp on.
Does he ever let anyone talk?? Ben does not stop talking bro
not enough spots. it is what it is.
I mean that Rafi dude is speaking straight facts that shit is a friendship league at its finest
shotzzy dropped his friend huke and twitter/reddit called him a snake 😂😂😂 but i guess friendship league
Dude is a dumbass talking about “it’s a friendship league but I’m not gonna name any” mf then why say it’s a friendship league if you can’t even back up your reasoning and examples
This man Ben was talking almost nothing relevant. Like what you’re talking about the past of COD instead of the current CDL roster. Man was spewing bullshit as far I’m concerned. I couldn’t following logic.
Ben is a clown. Saying he’s seen dms and messages. Lol nobody showing him shit because he is literally irrelevant. He’s backpacking off of zooma and trying to make outlandish takes to get clips to make more money! Idk why he is even part of any of this
Envoy last year is a great example of a friendship league with how he played he shouldve been dropped
Zin is right
Hate that zoomaa has such a soft spot for this dude
You drop kenny for lunarz oh wait.
Who is this Ben guy ? He ain’t had a good take in any of the videos I seen 😂😂😂😂😂😂
Ben is smarter than all of the CDL pros. Please show him some respect please
Sad troll attempt
Bens so dumb he thinks he knows the inside scoop and he says ive seen the screen shots once. it happened once
Ben’s faded
Methodz the cry baby
Ben is actualmy very annoying and really thinks hes relevant to a lot of shit because of Zooma. Zooma needs to humble him. Asap.
I will tell you this these guys that they are talking about attach owakening are on new teams and haven’t played with these guys before some teams need a little time to play together
Cod is dying! Maybe you all should be more concerned about not having a cod to compete on anymore in the future years
they need to get rid of cdl cwl whatever it is. bring back MLG
Methodz is the biggest example of friendship league lol
how he is not playing ?
he's not in the league 😂😂 think you mean nepotism which is facts
Click bait
why are we acting shocked connections and "friendships" play a factor in who people team with welcome to life there is a reason networking is one of the most important skills to have in life in general shit aint knew and aint cod league exclusive
Its a friendship league you got old heads still playing and not winning or doing good
battle of the mid
C9 friendship team when none of them knew eachother
Cloud9? They all teamed together pretty much, apart from Kremp maybe, and even coach accuracy played with them all, that’s basically a friendship team
Big Tony tweaking
Good observation
He's been unbearable since joining optic
@@hybwidhey man we love Zinny
Nah methods thinks he knows ball bro is so lost in the optic bullshit he’s out of touch
He is the only one speaking facts and notice how when he asked who they would drop they didn’t say anything. It’s just arguing just to argue. “I could call out some teams but I’m not going to” is the biggest cop out ever. Methodz has some goofy takes sometimes but he’s 100% correct here
WTF does him being on optic have to do with anything😂😂
@@Edwin-xi3zhthey just be hating optic bruh all it is 😂 literally had nothing to do with it
to the @raidlees dude