damn it, there was a time when doom slayer killed demons with his bare fists (because he won't find them in hell) and with his bare ass covered in the blood of the unclean, perhaps for millennia or millions of years, because in hell the concept of time practically does not matter
But if you go back to doom 93 it is said to be mad by uac weapons division and is widely used by the marine Corp yet more proof 93 and 2016 are very different universes
They’re for sure different universes but the doom guy from the OGs is the same in the new games. The armor he’s wearing in 2016 is very different from his original set
Doom: they killed my rabbit Doom 2: well fuk it's everyone's problem now Doom 64: I don't remember why I'm angry Doom 3: what Doom (2016): I have awoken in hell and I wanna find the monster who holds my rabbit Edit: Doom eternal: I'm the monster holding my rabbit, woah
My favorite part is in doom 2 or whenever they did the rabbit thing in the same game demons killed his wife and daughter too and we only remember the rabbit
In an old interview with Hugo Martin he explained that the reason the Praetor suit has humanoid symbols (at least in the 2016 version) is because Doomguy is constantly adding to, and modifying it. We can see this with how he takes upgrades off the Elite Guard, and furthermore in Eternal where he gives the suit a complete redesign as seen in the fortress of Doom, stripping parts off the 2016 armor to accommodate his new one, so it’s like the suit has been altered heavily from its "original" form when it was given to him by the Wretch mentioned in the Slayer’s Testaments
Ah, ok cool. Very interesting. Makes a lot of sense. Though I still wonder who “the wretch” was. I’m guessing Samur Maykr but it’s hard to say for sure EDIT: it’s not Samur or Valen, Hugo has confirmed that the wretch is a separate character
@@Woodyisasexybeast That’s still a mystery. Some ppl are under the impression that "Wretch" could be the Betrayer, since not only do we see him in hell (since we know the armor was made there) but he’s also seen supplying Doomguy with armaments. But personally I believe the Wretch is some kind of Demon that betrayed Hell, since the Slayer’s Testaments (told by the Dark Lord) label his acts as "heresy" which wouldn’t make sense for the Betrayer since he was never allied with them to begin with, but for an actual demon it makes much more sense
And the true reason is that the Doom Slayer was originally going to be one of many power armoured Space Marines (or something like that) since prelease material shows his helmet's Slayer's Mark replaced with F90.
Personally because of its ability to interact with UAC tech, I think it's possible that it could be his original armor heavily modified by the demon dubbed "The Wretch".
That’s possible. If that’s the case, it’s been completely and totally altered though. The armor in DOOM 64, which is what takes place before 2016, looks nothing like it
I don't think so, I believe his original armor got taken from him when he was first captured by the night sentinels, especially since we see they took his helmet, and then once he began proving himself he got that one but later replaced it entirely with the praetor suit
I know this was 1 year ago but I think when doomsayer got upgraded in the divinity machine the machine may have also upgraded the suit doomguy was wearing in the divinity machine. It’s probably why his suit and doomguy are connected
So the suit doesn't have any biometric verification, no soul recognition system, no passphrase, or anything like that. The reason it works when Doomguy wears it is simply because it knows better.
@@NatureDocumentaryTF2 No, I mean the original protagonist for Doom 4 was just a regular US Space Marine sent in to clean up the Mars Facility. The first gameplay trailer opens with the helmet equip animation from the start of Doom 4 and we can see that in place of the Slayer's Mark is a designation F90, which coupled with the rest of the English script on the armour strongly indicates that the Slayer was just going to be a regular marine. There is a theory that each of the trailers shows two to three different marines fighting demons, thus showing they're just a few of many.
@@achimpanzee9210 not "a" wretch, THE wretch. He was called that because he is a demon that made the armor for the one man that has been murdering every other demons in hell. Imagine humanity is being attack by an alien god. And then there's a bunch of people that started to make weapons and armor for that god. Won't you call them names too?
They didn’t accidentally discover doom guy armour in hell, they deliberately went to get it, because it was Samuel Hayden’s insurance policy if things got out of hand.
Yeah, and the reason for it is bc Samuel Hayden was never a human to begin with. He was/is the seraphim that put doom guy/ doom slayer into the divinity machine. So of course Samuel Hayden aka the Seraphin would know where his suit is.
What’s worse is that his normal flesh is said to be even stronger than the suit Edit apparently anything can spawn a roast battle between comments nowadays
I love the Doomslayer. The fact that he uses weapons to kill the demons purely to make things more entertaining for himself and he could easily slaughter every demon in seconds but he just doesn't is cool.
His suit is one of those outfits where you think "That's not practical at all, its way too heavy and stiff. Nobody can wear that" But then Doom Slayer comes in and instantly proves everybody wrong and ROCKS the suit with Style.
@@ordinaryfellow9093Obviously cuz by the second game, he became so much more powerful that he had to remove the sleeves on his suit to let his Huge Biceps breathe. Man NEVER leaves the Gym.
The praetor suit was created by the Sentinels, according to the historical context of the game, during the events of Doom 1, Doom 2 and its expansions Evilution and Plutonia the Doom Guy was a human with only weapons and enough willpower to kill demons, at the end of these events the doom guy falls through a portal that takes him to the planet of the Sentinels. It was there where he was found and given the opportunity to fight to gain a place in their society (the Sentinels themselves explain that he spoke a language that sounded "dirty and uncivilized" (the doom guy probably already had a great post-traumatic stress and many traumas from his encounters with demons so he kept saying "rip and tear" implying that he could not think of anything else but to kill every last demon). For years he fight shoulder to shoulder with the Sentinels and earned a place among them, eventually Samuel Hayden who is actually a Mayker saw that unstoppable force and with one of his celestial machines imbued the doom guy with unstoppable strength and the ability to absorb the energy of his enemies to continue killing them, (at this point the doom guy transforms into doom slayer no longer an human) in addition to his armor which is a mix between Mayker and Sentinel technology adapted specially for him. Plus the UAC found several Sentinel technology and Samuel Hayden as head scientist make technology for human with enough compatibility (remember, the UAC want to use the infernal energy)
This is late, but don't forget that Doom 64 is also canon and that game's ending is him being stuck in hell fighting demons for eons until he was found by the Knight Sentinels. I don't think Evilution and Plutonia are exactly part of the lore but 64 surely is.
Can we all agree that he was just going to be another Doom Marine, and for whatever reason, they decided they wanted to have a story so instead we got a bloated pos of a narrative that was changed after they already planned to make a game more akin to part 1. In fact, Dolm 2016 actually is a much better game imo than Eternal for many reasons. One of which is the contrived story they came up with. Samuel Hayden was way cooler as a mad scientist, and his reveal was the last awful nail in the coffin as far as any expectation of a good story. Just a horroble contrived idea. ,@@Woodyisasexybeast
I dont think it was a foolish experiment because hayden (seraphim, the one Who created the Slayer )was looking for doomguy all Along because hé needed him to solve the conflict
According to the lore. (if i remember right) The Seraphim upgraded Doomslayers suit with the Maykr's Divinity Machine and made the Doomslayer stronger faster and more agile to continue his war against the demons. Rip and Tear, until its done.
I personally believe this is his old marine armor from when he was still human, just heavily modified by said "wretch". That would explain the UAC integration, human/military look, and the number designation. He was probably Marine D22.
@tennebnoswad4383 the wretch was not explained in eternal and therefore, the praetor suit hasn’t been either. We still don’t know the identity of that character.
This isn't commonly known, but the protagonist of Doom 4 was originally not going to be the Doom Slayer. Obviously he looked identical, but based on the prelease gameplay he was going to be a regular Space Marine in power armour, as his helmet lacked the Slayer's mark and instead sported the designation "F90" as well as being equipped with various equipment that allowed him to interface with various UAC technologies (e.g. a small drone that allowed him to view holographic recordings).
I played the original doom back in the day when it first came out in the early 90's. Back then he was just a normal space marine that fought against a never ending onslaught of demons, slowly got access to OP weapons. And under insurmountable odds, he barely made it out alive in the end. Haven't played it since then. Fast forward to now, he's superman / God with even more OP weapons. What the heck happened? Seems like there is no challenge.
Oh, dont worry friend there is still a bullet-hell kind of challenges. Eternal makes better use of mobility over survivability, and there are some challenging aspects to it. Health being one of them, it's not regularly found throughout the game, and mostly comes from glory kills. Armor is still within a game, but its more a supportive feature than a core aspect of the game play, kinda acts like a buffer. Yeah we got all these cool new OP weapons, but there is still challenge. Give it a crack!
The D22, in my opinion, is a military denomination. D Company, 2nd Platoon, 2nd Squad. If that is true, then there could be upwards of 3,000 of those suits, all varying in usage. There would be medic suits, Heavy Artillery suits, Sniper suits, the Foot Soldier suit (most common and customizable, like the Doom Guy's suit), and different levels of protection (depending on rank, so Doom Guy's would be a Sergeant First Class, in my opinion) There is the final option though. It could just be decorational, and have no meaning whatsoever.
I think the praetor suit is a mix of both his original Marine armor, which had a HUD and Weapon Storage unit, and his Sentinel armor that he wore during the argenta civil war. And given that it’s impervious and runs on Argent Energy, it makes sense that a traitorous Demon, the Wretch, made the suit by fusing them together
i believe that there's also uac logos on the suit, so i think that doom guy is upgrading and repairing his suit with parts around the uac facility in the form of game upgrades and prator points
My guess is, it's because nobody but the Doom Slayer himself can handle wearing it. Or its designed not to activate unless it recognised his unique bio-signature, as a suprr soldier elite.
Perhaps the suit would only be activated by someone who was completely determined by their fury to kill the demons, and Doom Slayer is able to use it because of what the demons did to Daisy and his wife and son
Probably activated cuz the suit was made for the slayer that would one day kill the dark lord and potentially activated due to Doom guy having the essence of the father empowering him Ehhh I'm jus giving out theories as to why, But all I gotta say bout doom slayer is "power to match his will" 🥶
Let's just admit, Doomguy is an incredibly powerful fictional character who faces very few challenges due to his near-indestructible nature, making him similar to Saitama in his universe.😂
Doom Slayer is written to be the most powerful character in all of fiction. He defeats everyone with ease. Super heroes and villains. Thanos with the infinity gauntlet and Punch Man and Galactus and Goku and Superman couldn't beat Doom Slayer if they jumped him at the same time. Doom Slayer is absurdly overpowered. He was written that way. He would blitz his way thru the entire Marvel, DC, and Anime universes with his bare hands and not break a sweat. This fact really upsets people. I didn't write the lore for Doom Slayer.. I don't see why this upsets people because Doom Slayer is super cool.. Doom Slayer always scales his power above his opponent's power. That is one of Doom Slayer's powers. He can also kill immortals. Based on those 2 powers alone, he can't be defeated by anyone no matter what. Doom Slayer is basically the Punisher if he became so OP that he kills The One Above All... Basically God with a capital G... And he took God out wiith his hands.
Is doomguy as durable as he is without the armour and can his skin be damaged or cut through like can his arm be sliced off and he Regenerates it when he absorbs argent energy from demons????
He’s very durable but the the limits to that durability are unclear. All we know is that he is killable. The demons could kill him, he’s just too badass
Maybe the d in “D22” is the model (like how the Gundam in the original anime is the RX-78-2. Coincidentally the second unit) and the 22 is how many were made (like when I’m referring to ALL of the RX-78 Gundams I say unit 2 or unit 3 if I’m talking about the origins of the RX-78-2 and the RX-78-3. [the two surviving RX-78 units]).
For literally any game but 2016 and eternal it’s just uac marine armour. And considering the multiverse nonsense and time traveling in eternal Im just going to go with that. Mystery solved.
90s: The Doom Guy is just a badass motherfucker who rose to the challenge 2020s, where zoomers don't believe anyone is exceptional: The Doom Slayer's suit is an ancient, mystic artifiact....
No other praetor suit has been found because if the other individuals that wore one are anything like doomguy, you're never laying a hand on another suit unless you want to die, lol.
If the alloys were indestructible, the Doom guy wouldn't be capable of sustaining any damage from melee attacks, only shockwave and high impact attacks.
HEY WHAT IF... much like METROID... DOOM GUY finds different pieces of OTHER suits adds their functions to his and tries to defeats demons that are much more powerful than his DEVIL doppelganger
I like to think this is what happens when modern game worlds try to make sense of old 1990's tech: "This Armor is Made of Things We Do Not Understand, Crude, Ancient, and Strangely Indestructible..."
WRONG, there IS another Doom suit. "The Betrayer" wears a suit VERY MUCH like the Praetor suit that has what looks like a shoulder mounted cannon on it. He could be wearing an older version of the suit.
Gonna be honest, I’m not a fan of the 2016/ eternal lore. It feels overwhelmingly like DeviantArt Fan Fiction. As if someone who’s never heard of Marvel, never even read a comic book, unaware of the concept of superheroes, decided to watch Avengers: Endgame, in a complete contextual vacuum.
I like how its "indestructible" but you can still die in it. Ive heard that no demon can pierce it, but you can still die. Probably just for gameplay design, like how doomguy is canonically as strong as Berserk mode.
Isn’t he contained in that tomb in ancient gods after he kills the dark lord so I think it’s all a paradox But hey, that’s just a theory, A GAME THEORY.
TLDR; the Preator suit is the original UAC armor from the original Doom series, but modified by a Sentinel that underwent Demonization. The suit was made completely by humans, and the demons were metaphorically or primitively explaining the Slayer's powers. "The Wretch" is not named, and since that word appears in other codex entries referring to other beings, "wretch" seems to be the Demons' catch-all term for anything that isn't a Demon, or is and doesn’t act like a Demon. As we can see from pictures of the armor, there's English on Doomguy's armor, as if it were mass produced by a corporation (gee I wonder which big bad game Corporation it could be), but the Demons' writing system was taken wholesale from the Argent D'Nur when they conquered it, so if Doomguy had been one of them, there wouldn't be English on his Armor, but runes instead. The conclusion is that *Doomguy* in 2016/Eternal *IS* the same one from Classic Doom games so, likely, this means when he got teleported to Argent D'Nur, they upgraded his already existing armor and the Wretch further upgraded, after Argent D’Nur fell, using Argent energies and some sort of runic Hell smithing techniques. Remember, Argent energy can corrupt beings and make them into Demons, which likely means, “The Wretch”, is a likely a transformed Sentinel of Argent D’Nur. Quote: “The true nature of Argent energy is explained in Doom Eternal when the Slayer goes to Nekravol, where demons torture their victims until the last flickers of hope are removed. The soul is then extracted from the victim, and the husk body mutates into a new demon.” Quote directly from Hayden himself: “The demons only utilize a portion of the resources that come from the human soul. It was the Maykrs and the Sentinel Priests who discovered and unlocked the true power of the Essence. They combined Sentinel and Hell energies together, refined it, and created... Argent.” So somewhere along the way, a Sentinel got Demonified, turned into “The Wretch” and still, somehow, retained his former self to some degree and upgraded the original UAC armor Doomguy showed up in. Mystery solved, even if it isn’t at all important to the series or the narrative the series is telling. Pretty simple A-B through line. Friendly reminder, not everything in a story needs explaining, or digging into.
D22 could mean it took 22 Devil Souls or something to make it, or Demon Soul's, like embedded in the suit itself, giving it that Indestructible and Mysterious origin, and maybe The Wretch did collect 22 Demon or Devil Soul's to make it, hence why it could deal with Hellish Argent Energy without dying and being evaporated out of existence.
So for 3 games he was simply surviving, gaining more and more of a blood lust. (Redacted) Then he awakens to kill demons, now finally being able to jump, he has a better time killing, whatever the demonic forces did to him, it rewarded his blood lust with a vamperic ability upon killing his enemies, slowly becoming more and more reliant on hell to survive, he requires the very thing he originally sought to destroy. At least thats what I got from 1, 2, 64, 2016, and Eternal
My favorite part is that everyone is mentioning 'the wretch', a Seraphim, and Samuel Hayden. Now, I don't know 'the wretch' as much, but if you listen to the Seraphim's voice (the one that uses the machine on him in Doom Eternal), and Samuel Hayden... Yea, it's the same guy.
What if the Doom guy was sent back in time with that suit because the human race was conquered by the demons? Maybe that would explain why he was the only one who could use it. But it's only a theory, a THOUGHT THEORY
Well, from what I've heard the Wretch is a traitor demon who forged the suit, but I can't find any actual information on this. The suit seems like it was heavily based on the Slayer's Sentinel suit during the Dark Ages which is why Marauders has a very similar armor to it, but I am sure that the Suit in the Dark Ages isn't the Praetor Suit. Hopefully we'll actually see the Wretch in the Dark Ages, and we might see him actually forging the Praetor suit. The Praetor suit is insane durable though, tanking an argent explosion that rips through the fabric of spacetime twice in DOOM 2016, and still did not leave a single scratch on the suit.
The design is very human
Well its made to fit a human
@@alexmediato299 :0 no way
@alexmediato299 Not necessarily. It’s made to fit a humanoid. Davoth, for example, could more than likely wear the suit and he is not human.
@@Woodyisasexybeast r/woooosh
@Pizza_Time05 Nope. Replying to “well it’s made to fit a human” not the original comment. Ironic
The suit is the body, doom guy is the soul, parted they are frail, together they can clash with the heavens and hells.
Doom 4, and doom 64, they both have the best suits in my opinion
The way he pronounced praetor suit had me dying for some reason
The doom marine is just Masterchief who fell through universes.
damn it, there was a time when doom slayer killed demons with his bare fists (because he won't find them in hell) and with his bare ass covered in the blood of the unclean, perhaps for millennia or millions of years, because in hell the concept of time practically does not matter
I have problems with the lore explanation since the UAC logo is clearly visible on it in the model viewer
Who made the preator suit
Doom guy himself made it
But if you go back to doom 93 it is said to be mad by uac weapons division and is widely used by the marine Corp yet more proof 93 and 2016 are very different universes
They’re for sure different universes but the doom guy from the OGs is the same in the new games. The armor he’s wearing in 2016 is very different from his original set
@@Woodyisasexybeast agreed you drulling to play the new game? I got my copy reserved already
Absolutely. Looks killer already. As long as Hugo as at the helm, I’m confident it’ll be a great experience
Doom lore:
They killed my fuckin rabbit
Doom lore:
They killed my fuckin rabbit, and now it’s EVERYONES problem.
@@atmac2162 🤣
The demon that killed the rabbit: I kill this thing and make everyone dead
Doom: they killed my rabbit
Doom 2: well fuk it's everyone's problem now
Doom 64: I don't remember why I'm angry
Doom 3: what
Doom (2016): I have awoken in hell and I wanna find the monster who holds my rabbit
Edit: Doom eternal: I'm the monster holding my rabbit, woah
My favorite part is in doom 2 or whenever they did the rabbit thing in the same game demons killed his wife and daughter too and we only remember the rabbit
In an old interview with Hugo Martin he explained that the reason the Praetor suit has humanoid symbols (at least in the 2016 version) is because Doomguy is constantly adding to, and modifying it. We can see this with how he takes upgrades off the Elite Guard, and furthermore in Eternal where he gives the suit a complete redesign as seen in the fortress of Doom, stripping parts off the 2016 armor to accommodate his new one, so it’s like the suit has been altered heavily from its "original" form when it was given to him by the Wretch mentioned in the Slayer’s Testaments
Ah, ok cool. Very interesting. Makes a lot of sense. Though I still wonder who “the wretch” was. I’m guessing Samur Maykr but it’s hard to say for sure
EDIT: it’s not Samur or Valen, Hugo has confirmed that the wretch is a separate character
@@Woodyisasexybeast That’s still a mystery. Some ppl are under the impression that "Wretch" could be the Betrayer, since not only do we see him in hell (since we know the armor was made there) but he’s also seen supplying Doomguy with armaments. But personally I believe the Wretch is some kind of Demon that betrayed Hell, since the Slayer’s Testaments (told by the Dark Lord) label his acts as "heresy" which wouldn’t make sense for the Betrayer since he was never allied with them to begin with, but for an actual demon it makes much more sense
And the true reason is that the Doom Slayer was originally going to be one of many power armoured Space Marines (or something like that) since prelease material shows his helmet's Slayer's Mark replaced with F90.
@@DarthSateus The wording of the Slayer's Testaments directly implicates the Wretch as a betrayer of the demons, there's no other interpretation.
yeah but where thye hell has he got the workshop and tools to even execute such a task
Personally because of its ability to interact with UAC tech, I think it's possible that it could be his original armor heavily modified by the demon dubbed "The Wretch".
That’s possible. If that’s the case, it’s been completely and totally altered though. The armor in DOOM 64, which is what takes place before 2016, looks nothing like it
@@Woodyisasexybeastit’s soooo similar to everything marine in doom 3 even the turrets
@@Duskofoolacile420Maybe that wretch stole some equipment from uac and then made the suit from that
I don't think so, I believe his original armor got taken from him when he was first captured by the night sentinels, especially since we see they took his helmet, and then once he began proving himself he got that one but later replaced it entirely with the praetor suit
I know this was 1 year ago but I think when doomsayer got upgraded in the divinity machine the machine may have also upgraded the suit doomguy was wearing in the divinity machine. It’s probably why his suit and doomguy are connected
So the suit doesn't have any biometric verification, no soul recognition system, no passphrase, or anything like that. The reason it works when Doomguy wears it is simply because it knows better.
Just imagine they have like 21 other doom guy suits just laying around somewhere....
That was originally the case.
@@dutch_asocialite so theres 22 chosen ones?
@@NatureDocumentaryTF2 No, I mean the original protagonist for Doom 4 was just a regular US Space Marine sent in to clean up the Mars Facility. The first gameplay trailer opens with the helmet equip animation from the start of Doom 4 and we can see that in place of the Slayer's Mark is a designation F90, which coupled with the rest of the English script on the armour strongly indicates that the Slayer was just going to be a regular marine. There is a theory that each of the trailers shows two to three different marines fighting demons, thus showing they're just a few of many.
They’re all stiff when someone pushes them over like a mannequin.. like these gigantic pieces of heavy alloy have been starched 😂
@@ShabbyCoronet81 I'm Gonna Make a Comedic Animation Of That Now.
Here lemme help: he was part of the sentinels, so it likely was created by some kind of armorer within that group
It was made by a wretch within hells armies
@@achimpanzee9210 not "a" wretch, THE wretch. He was called that because he is a demon that made the armor for the one man that has been murdering every other demons in hell.
Imagine humanity is being attack by an alien god. And then there's a bunch of people that started to make weapons and armor for that god. Won't you call them names too?
@@amirhaikal6672 imagine trying to conquer an alien race and then they send an immortal god of rage to destroy us.
@@norielgames4765then some random guy of your race just make that god armor which makes him even stronger
@@aguafria9003then he sends you back to hell and due to time differences he's there to and beats you to death a second time 😂
They didn’t accidentally discover doom guy armour in hell, they deliberately went to get it, because it was Samuel Hayden’s insurance policy if things got out of hand.
not only that, fi you know everything about the dlc lore of eternal samuel already knew where to search and what he would find.
His trump card in case shit hit the fan.
Yeah, and the reason for it is bc Samuel Hayden was never a human to begin with. He was/is the seraphim that put doom guy/ doom slayer into the divinity machine. So of course Samuel Hayden aka the Seraphin would know where his suit is.
What’s worse is that his normal flesh is said to be even stronger than the suit
Edit apparently anything can spawn a roast battle between comments nowadays
Yes the suit is his condom
@@Dragonsoul82445 so the suit is his condom or his skin is?
@@ethandoessomestuff...8949 lol the suit
He just wears it to make the demons feel better like theyll have a chance if they get it off him
Why do you ngas say random shit like this his skin is not stronger than the suit why tf you tho he wears it stop making shit up buddy
I love the Doomslayer. The fact that he uses weapons to kill the demons purely to make things more entertaining for himself and he could easily slaughter every demon in seconds but he just doesn't is cool.
"Your weapons are weak"
"That's why I use them"
His suit is one of those outfits where you think "That's not practical at all, its way too heavy and stiff. Nobody can wear that" But then Doom Slayer comes in and instantly proves everybody wrong and ROCKS the suit with Style.
Not only that, it BECOMES flexible on him too!
Well I mean, it's not made for a normal human, rather for a super human god-like immortal entity fueled by pure rage and hatred
@@ordinaryfellow9093Obviously cuz by the second game, he became so much more powerful that he had to remove the sleeves on his suit to let his Huge Biceps breathe. Man NEVER leaves the Gym.
@@thanos1335 nahh he IS the gym
i always thought the suit only had wifi functionality and the slayer willed the suit to be tougher
We also can't forget that this all started for survival and a dead bunny
The praetor suit was created by the Sentinels, according to the historical context of the game, during the events of Doom 1, Doom 2 and its expansions Evilution and Plutonia the Doom Guy was a human with only weapons and enough willpower to kill demons, at the end of these events the doom guy falls through a portal that takes him to the planet of the Sentinels.
It was there where he was found and given the opportunity to fight to gain a place in their society (the Sentinels themselves explain that he spoke a language that sounded "dirty and uncivilized" (the doom guy probably already had a great post-traumatic stress and many traumas from his encounters with demons so he kept saying "rip and tear" implying that he could not think of anything else but to kill every last demon).
For years he fight shoulder to shoulder with the Sentinels and earned a place among them, eventually Samuel Hayden who is actually a Mayker saw that unstoppable force and with one of his celestial machines imbued the doom guy with unstoppable strength and the ability to absorb the energy of his enemies to continue killing them, (at this point the doom guy transforms into doom slayer no longer an human) in addition to his armor which is a mix between Mayker and Sentinel technology adapted specially for him. Plus the UAC found several Sentinel technology and Samuel Hayden as head scientist make technology for human with enough compatibility (remember, the UAC want to use the infernal energy)
You’re right about everything except the creators of the suit. It was made by “the wretch” who Hugo confirmed is neither Valen nor Hayden.
Isn’t Doom Guy’s normal flesh like a lot stronger than the suits armor
This is late, but don't forget that Doom 64 is also canon and that game's ending is him being stuck in hell fighting demons for eons until he was found by the Knight Sentinels. I don't think Evilution and Plutonia are exactly part of the lore but 64 surely is.
Can we all agree that he was just going to be another Doom Marine, and for whatever reason, they decided they wanted to have a story so instead we got a bloated pos of a narrative that was changed after they already planned to make a game more akin to part 1. In fact, Dolm 2016 actually is a much better game imo than Eternal for many reasons. One of which is the contrived story they came up with. Samuel Hayden was way cooler as a mad scientist, and his reveal was the last awful nail in the coffin as far as any expectation of a good story. Just a horroble contrived idea. ,@@Woodyisasexybeast
i though doom guy was effectively retconned to always have been a prime evil with the prerogative of annihilating all of the ‘demons’ of hell
Doom is such a simple game, until you start paying attention
The suit is so strong it endured VEGA’s meltdown point blank
D18: *armored everywhere but the abs*
I dont think it was a foolish experiment because hayden (seraphim, the one Who created the Slayer )was looking for doomguy all Along because hé needed him to solve the conflict
According to the lore.
(if i remember right)
The Seraphim upgraded Doomslayers suit with the Maykr's Divinity Machine and made the Doomslayer stronger faster and more agile to continue his war against the demons. Rip and Tear, until its done.
@@Mr.Fortunato I dont think he upgraded the armor but the Slayer himself
@@Sideswipin I thought it was the suit, but i could be wrong, the lore can get confusing at times
@@Mr.Fortunato True
I personally believe this is his old marine armor from when he was still human, just heavily modified by said "wretch". That would explain the UAC integration, human/military look, and the number designation. He was probably Marine D22.
It isn't
@@tennebnoswad4383 lemme theorize
@@nucle3ar_wint3r there is no theorising to be had because the suit and weapon have been explained in doom eternal
@tennebnoswad4383 the wretch was not explained in eternal and therefore, the praetor suit hasn’t been either. We still don’t know the identity of that character.
@@Woodyisasexybeast you meet the wretch in doom eternal
It works on the doom guy perfectly cause he is the chosen one.
Doom Guy is just the Master Chief obviously.
His new suit just came up from Seongnam this morning
@madk3 OH, REALLY? IT’S ALMOST AS IF IT’S A JOKE!!?!?!
Nah I prefer to keep them as separate entities.
Bro doom came out before halo 💀
@@whiteblack2008 STOP STATING THE OBVIOUS AHHHHHH
Works with The Slayer's argent energy, maybe.
The wretch who shall not be named. The betrayer.
Hugo said the wretch is a different character. It’s not Valen
@@Woodyisasexybeast well, maybe. I just thought It made sense to me.
Imagine a army of doomsayers 😭
Hell already didn’t stand a chance against doomguy😭
If anything multiple doomguys will just eliminate hell quicker
space marines
It’s made out of doomium or soul of the doomed demons.
lol. Doomium
@@Woodyisasexybeast And when the energy is more intense it is called Doomium MAX
This isn't commonly known, but the protagonist of Doom 4 was originally not going to be the Doom Slayer. Obviously he looked identical, but based on the prelease gameplay he was going to be a regular Space Marine in power armour, as his helmet lacked the Slayer's mark and instead sported the designation "F90" as well as being equipped with various equipment that allowed him to interface with various UAC technologies (e.g. a small drone that allowed him to view holographic recordings).
I played the original doom back in the day when it first came out in the early 90's. Back then he was just a normal space marine that fought against a never ending onslaught of demons, slowly got access to OP weapons. And under insurmountable odds, he barely made it out alive in the end. Haven't played it since then.
Fast forward to now, he's superman / God with even more OP weapons. What the heck happened? Seems like there is no challenge.
He’s the same character. His abilities simply escalated.
Oh, dont worry friend there is still a bullet-hell kind of challenges. Eternal makes better use of mobility over survivability, and there are some challenging aspects to it. Health being one of them, it's not regularly found throughout the game, and mostly comes from glory kills. Armor is still within a game, but its more a supportive feature than a core aspect of the game play, kinda acts like a buffer.
Yeah we got all these cool new OP weapons, but there is still challenge. Give it a crack!
Quality Lore here !
I really hope that we'll learn more about "the Wretch" in Doom Dark Ages
Seriously would be sweet
The D22, in my opinion, is a military denomination. D Company, 2nd Platoon, 2nd Squad. If that is true, then there could be upwards of 3,000 of those suits, all varying in usage. There would be medic suits, Heavy Artillery suits, Sniper suits, the Foot Soldier suit (most common and customizable, like the Doom Guy's suit), and different levels of protection (depending on rank, so Doom Guy's would be a Sergeant First Class, in my opinion)
There is the final option though.
It could just be decorational, and have no meaning whatsoever.
Couldn't it be some "biblical" stuff? I'm not religious but it would fit perfectly!
@@Hasselroeder how?
@@nxbisWell, Doom is about Hell and stuff, that's why I thought there could be a connection.
I think the praetor suit is a mix of both his original Marine armor, which had a HUD and Weapon Storage unit, and his Sentinel armor that he wore during the argenta civil war. And given that it’s impervious and runs on Argent Energy, it makes sense that a traitorous Demon, the Wretch, made the suit by fusing them together
i believe that there's also uac logos on the suit, so i think that doom guy is upgrading and repairing his suit with parts around the uac facility in the form of game upgrades and prator points
I’ve always wondered if doom is just the precursor to Warhammer 40 K
I mean... The machine guns/assault rifles we get in 2016 and eternal can fire micro rockets
The way 40k is set up, nearly anything can be a precursor to 40k.
@@dutch_asocialite so who knows maybe real life is a precursor to 40k XD
@@dutch_asocialitesuffer not the unclean to live
I mean. It could quite literally be that Doom Guy is actually the Emperor after he is woken back up due to the appearance of the Chaos Gods.
My guess is, it's because nobody but the Doom Slayer himself can handle wearing it. Or its designed not to activate unless it recognised his unique bio-signature, as a suprr soldier elite.
That seems to be the implication at least
Perhaps the suit would only be activated by someone who was completely determined by their fury to kill the demons, and Doom Slayer is able to use it because of what the demons did to Daisy and his wife and son
Issac Clarke would love to be doomslayer
The suit chooses it's master
Does it cost 5 grand though 🐝🚘
He's still way more durable than the suit
Absolutely. The suit is nothing without doomguy.
Probably activated cuz the suit was made for the slayer that would one day kill the dark lord and potentially activated due to Doom guy having the essence of the father empowering him
Ehhh I'm jus giving out theories as to why,
But all I gotta say bout doom slayer is "power to match his will" 🥶
Let's just admit, Doomguy is an incredibly powerful fictional character who faces very few challenges due to his near-indestructible nature, making him similar to Saitama in his universe.😂
He's one punch man
Doom Slayer is written to be the most powerful character in all of fiction. He defeats everyone with ease. Super heroes and villains. Thanos with the infinity gauntlet and Punch Man and Galactus and Goku and Superman couldn't beat Doom Slayer if they jumped him at the same time.
Doom Slayer is absurdly overpowered. He was written that way. He would blitz his way thru the entire Marvel, DC, and Anime universes with his bare hands and not break a sweat.
This fact really upsets people. I didn't write the lore for Doom Slayer.. I don't see why this upsets people because Doom Slayer is super cool..
Doom Slayer always scales his power above his opponent's power. That is one of Doom Slayer's powers. He can also kill immortals. Based on those 2 powers alone, he can't be defeated by anyone no matter what.
Doom Slayer is basically the Punisher if he became so OP that he kills The One Above All... Basically God with a capital G... And he took God out wiith his hands.
@@outlawgt3045 if they can be killed they're not immortal
I'm guessing its compatible with UAC tech is because they reversed engineer this and the sentinel armors to create the UAC armor in the first place
NGL, I do love my suit
you'd look better with it off tbh
@@ghostsghoul 😏perhaps
@@Doom_SlayerYT im free tn ;)
@@ghostsghoul are you?😳
@@Doom_SlayerYT are you ?
Jesus loves you guys and died for you so, you could one day come to know Him ❤❤❤❤
That's the new Fortnite guy right
That’s the guy from Halo
Ain’t this the guy from Quake?
@@achimpanzee9210he's from doom.
@@raven5953 it was a joke
@@raven5953 No he’s from Destiny
"In a foolish human expedition 🤓." I've heard saying no offense lets people know I'm not serious
Doom 2016 was the best doom game.
👇
No 😂
Clearly it was made by God and it has parallels with Biblical story.
Doomguy is Link... Look into it. A hero in green, slaying monsters with a powerful sword. And D22 is Doom 2022
I think the 2016 design was amazing and the eternal design was a downgrade even though it's closer to the original
I think doom eternal was an abomination in terms of design and lore
Doom 2016 better story than eternal
Ok
Oh shit, i JUST remembered that i bought this game last night, fucking love this game, thx for reminding me
“Prey tore” one silly goofy wave pronouncing predator but somehow bad ass
It’s not called the predator suit. It’s the praetor suit.
Is doomguy as durable as he is without the armour and can his skin be damaged or cut through like can his arm be sliced off and he Regenerates it when he absorbs argent energy from demons????
He’s very durable but the the limits to that durability are unclear. All we know is that he is killable. The demons could kill him, he’s just too badass
Marvin the Martian forged the suit
Maybe the d in “D22” is the model (like how the Gundam in the original anime is the RX-78-2. Coincidentally the second unit) and the 22 is how many were made (like when I’m referring to ALL of the RX-78 Gundams I say unit 2 or unit 3 if I’m talking about the origins of the RX-78-2 and the RX-78-3. [the two surviving RX-78 units]).
I wonder if doom the dark ages will explain this
I’m willing to bet on it
I don’t care lore. I want gore.
What about my suit?
For literally any game but 2016 and eternal it’s just uac marine armour. And considering the multiverse nonsense and time traveling in eternal Im just going to go with that. Mystery solved.
Well yeah but that’s boring. Over analyzing is more fun
It’s not tho. Can’t it survive stuff as strong as the sun? If normal uac tech could survive that, how could have the demons overtaken earth?
What if this plays into halo with humanity vs the flood
Master Chief and the Doom Slayer being the same character?
well the doom guy's lore isn't as much of a mystery if you've read the lore in any of the games. Armor is somewhat tricky.
90s: The Doom Guy is just a badass motherfucker who rose to the challenge
2020s, where zoomers don't believe anyone is exceptional: The Doom Slayer's suit is an ancient, mystic artifiact....
Tech Biomechanics and Destiny is all prime in this guy..hes the devine plan..plan for all evil..the messiah..the GODS WRATH
The design is human like. The fact that its electronic and ancient... IT DEFINETLY IS ANCIENT ALIEN TECH SOME KIND.
modern doom lore : 𝙚𝙭𝙩𝙚𝙣𝙨𝙞𝙫𝙚 𝙗𝙪𝙡𝙡𝙨𝙝𝙞𝙩
old doom lore : You kill my rabbit now i commit Genocide
No other praetor suit has been found because if the other individuals that wore one are anything like doomguy, you're never laying a hand on another suit unless you want to die, lol.
So basically.
We don't know.
Doom Guy can walk on Sun surface that strong and undistructable this suit is
Doom lore explained in less words:
They killed my fucking rabbit, I'm going to send them to the abyss now and I'll also kill myself just because.
Why couldn’t there be 1 BTTF DeLorean with 2 alternate body kits?
the script sounds AI generated asf
I've got 4, BHS, institute, pristine, and Vault-tec in fallout 4
If the alloys were indestructible, the Doom guy wouldn't be capable of sustaining any damage from melee attacks, only shockwave and high impact attacks.
Always wonderdywhy it was named after Phyrexian deamons, hmmmm, completion anyone?
HEY WHAT IF... much like METROID... DOOM GUY finds different pieces of OTHER suits adds their functions to his and tries to defeats demons that are much more powerful than his DEVIL doppelganger
It's "Dimension 22." The Doom Slayer traverses universes.
I like to think this is what happens when modern game worlds try to make sense of old 1990's tech:
"This Armor is Made of Things We Do Not Understand, Crude, Ancient, and Strangely Indestructible..."
WRONG, there IS another Doom suit. "The Betrayer" wears a suit VERY MUCH like the Praetor suit that has what looks like a shoulder mounted cannon on it. He could be wearing an older version of the suit.
Gonna be honest, I’m not a fan of the 2016/ eternal lore. It feels overwhelmingly like DeviantArt Fan Fiction. As if someone who’s never heard of Marvel, never even read a comic book, unaware of the concept of superheroes, decided to watch Avengers: Endgame, in a complete contextual vacuum.
How do say absolutely nothing in 35 seconds. I'm not mad, I'm impressed. It's quite a skill. You should go into middle management.
D22 kinda feels like Doom-22...
Shower thoughts.
I like how its "indestructible" but you can still die in it. Ive heard that no demon can pierce it, but you can still die. Probably just for gameplay design, like how doomguy is canonically as strong as Berserk mode.
I wonder with DOOM: The Dark Ages Announced will we finally see the Wretch and the original unaltered Praetor Suit
Imagine all that time ago when that suit was produced for probably armies.
What the fuck were they preparing for.
Isn’t he contained in that tomb in ancient gods after he kills the dark lord so I think it’s all a paradox
But hey,
that’s just a theory,
A GAME THEORY.
TLDR; the Preator suit is the original UAC armor from the original Doom series, but modified by a Sentinel that underwent Demonization.
The suit was made completely by humans, and the demons were metaphorically or primitively explaining the Slayer's powers.
"The Wretch" is not named, and since that word appears in other codex entries referring to other beings, "wretch" seems to be the Demons' catch-all term for anything that isn't a Demon, or is and doesn’t act like a Demon.
As we can see from pictures of the armor, there's English on Doomguy's armor, as if it were mass produced by a corporation (gee I wonder which big bad game Corporation it could be), but the Demons' writing system was taken wholesale from the Argent D'Nur when they conquered it, so if Doomguy had been one of them, there wouldn't be English on his Armor, but runes instead.
The conclusion is that *Doomguy* in 2016/Eternal *IS* the same one from Classic Doom games so, likely, this means when he got teleported to Argent D'Nur, they upgraded his already existing armor and the Wretch further upgraded, after Argent D’Nur fell, using Argent energies and some sort of runic Hell smithing techniques.
Remember, Argent energy can corrupt beings and make them into Demons, which likely means, “The Wretch”, is a likely a transformed Sentinel of Argent D’Nur.
Quote: “The true nature of Argent energy is explained in Doom Eternal when the Slayer goes to Nekravol, where demons torture their victims until the last flickers of hope are removed. The soul is then extracted from the victim, and the husk body mutates into a new demon.”
Quote directly from Hayden himself: “The demons only utilize a portion of the resources that come from the human soul. It was the Maykrs and the Sentinel Priests who discovered and unlocked the true power of the Essence. They combined Sentinel and Hell energies together, refined it, and created... Argent.”
So somewhere along the way, a Sentinel got Demonified, turned into “The Wretch” and still, somehow, retained his former self to some degree and upgraded the original UAC armor Doomguy showed up in.
Mystery solved, even if it isn’t at all important to the series or the narrative the series is telling. Pretty simple A-B through line.
Friendly reminder, not everything in a story needs explaining, or digging into.
D22 could mean it took 22 Devil Souls or something to make it, or Demon Soul's, like embedded in the suit itself, giving it that Indestructible and Mysterious origin, and maybe The Wretch did collect 22 Demon or Devil Soul's to make it, hence why it could deal with Hellish Argent Energy without dying and being evaporated out of existence.
So for 3 games he was simply surviving, gaining more and more of a blood lust. (Redacted) Then he awakens to kill demons, now finally being able to jump, he has a better time killing, whatever the demonic forces did to him, it rewarded his blood lust with a vamperic ability upon killing his enemies, slowly becoming more and more reliant on hell to survive, he requires the very thing he originally sought to destroy. At least thats what I got from 1, 2, 64, 2016, and Eternal
My favorite part is that everyone is mentioning 'the wretch', a Seraphim, and Samuel Hayden. Now, I don't know 'the wretch' as much, but if you listen to the Seraphim's voice (the one that uses the machine on him in Doom Eternal), and Samuel Hayden... Yea, it's the same guy.
What if the Doom guy was sent back in time with that suit because the human race was conquered by the demons? Maybe that would explain why he was the only one who could use it. But it's only a theory, a THOUGHT THEORY
The thing I don't get is why use armor which is less efficient than your own skin?
Theres a new suit in the trailer for DOOM: The Dark Ages. Could that be another praetor suit?
Well, from what I've heard the Wretch is a traitor demon who forged the suit, but I can't find any actual information on this. The suit seems like it was heavily based on the Slayer's Sentinel suit during the Dark Ages which is why Marauders has a very similar armor to it, but I am sure that the Suit in the Dark Ages isn't the Praetor Suit. Hopefully we'll actually see the Wretch in the Dark Ages, and we might see him actually forging the Praetor suit. The Praetor suit is insane durable though, tanking an argent explosion that rips through the fabric of spacetime twice in DOOM 2016, and still did not leave a single scratch on the suit.
Old marine suit: ReCrafted to be DoomSlayer own unique armor, they leave the number so resemble DoomSlayer old soldier number
The number designations could be a huge plot point of doom, just imaging doom guy 1v8ing enemies in his caliber