How Spain (Narrowly) Became a Democracy | SideQuest Animated History
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- Somewhat surprisingly, Spain became a democracy only recently; up until the 1970s it remained a brutal dictatorship under the iron fist of Francisco Franco. So how did Spain get there and how did it finally save itself from autocracy?
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King: "I am the undisputed dictator of this nation, AND I WANT A DEMOCRACY!"
Fascists: "But...you can't...that's not...No!
King: "Disagreeing with the Dictator are you? That's awfully democratic for a so-called 'fascist'!"
Fascists: "Nooooo this isn't how its supposed to work!"
Based King.
*heads explode*
HAHAHA!
AAAVEEE MARRIIIAAAAAAA
that's a 200 IQ play
Francisco Franco sounds like the sorta name you would come up with if you were suddenly placed on the spot and told to come up with a Spanish-sounding name.
Franco means truthful
Honestly I keep thinking of james franco both awful but for different reasons
Paquito para los amigos
@euskoferre yeah SPANISH for french lmao
@euskoferre I once heard that his name could be rendered as "Frenchy French."
You could have mentioned Juan Carlos' eventual fall from grace and exile in August 2020. He is the regal personification of the saying "You either die a hero, or live long enough to see yourself become the villain". Excellent video.
What happened to him?
yeah why
@@RandyMCPEmaster Scandals related with money (In addition, the fact that, in the past, he went to Africa to hunt some elephants didn't really help his public image)
oh thats a bit of ashame
though it sounds like he atleast did plenty more good than bad
@@EnderCrypt He will probably be remembered by his role in the transition to democracy. But that will be long after his death I suppose.
Is it just me or does anyone else get the sense SideQuest will be a big history TH-cam channel one day
I really hope so. I think the problem is the lack of outreach. they have no twitter, for example. also the name is hard to pin down (side quest can mean a lot of things). I really hope they can solve these issues and become as big as they deserve to be!
@@teddyboragina6437 a lot of of the history channels on TH-cam grow without Twitter (they later get on Twitter) and many grow with Channel names that don’t mean too much. But it can certainly help to maybe add “history” to the same so SideQuest History” would be a better name
I agree with you and hope that SideQuest does become a huge History channel.
They already should be, SideQuest is legitimately the most underrated channel that I know of. It’s crazy how well made these videos are while having such few subscribers. I really hope they take off soon, they deserve it
It's crazy they only have 79k subscribers. The quality of the videos is amazing!
The Spanish King could have also feared a similar fate that the Estado Novo in neighboring Portugal had. The Portuguese dictatorship heavily supported Franco. It collapsed in 1974 with revolution. This probably might have been a warning to the king of Spain that if he wanted to retain some power he would need to give most of it away or fear losing it all away.
Fear? When the Portugese changed their government, the 'shells' of most of the army rifles were carnation flowers. Hence the name 'carnation revolution'. The only violence that happened came from right wing military that attacked a number of peaceful protestants and killed four.
In perspective, I also doubt that democracy was saved so narrowly. Could Spain remain the only dictatorship in Western Europe for much longer?
In Spain, Carrero Blanco wanted to continue the Francoist regime and was assassinated. King Juan Carlos might've suffered that same fate. Or perhaps he just feared being removed from the throne and its perks, which have allowed him to carry a very hedonistic life.
@@EuroUser1 After the death of Franco democracy was seen as the next step for Spanis. If a dictator had gone on it would failed.
@@pereballestergost2985 Yes. That's a - slightly simplified - version of my point.
Fun fact about Franco's dealings with the US: He allowed them to build an observatory in the Canary Islands that NASA wanted to make for its space program. Franco only allowed it if they promised to build a university next to it at no Spanish expense so they could educate new astronomers right there. Both are still standing and used to this day
Franco also allowed americans to build a radar in the highest mountain in Mallorca (Puig Major) from which you could control most of northern Africa and most of the Mediterranean sea. My father did the former mandatory military service at that base. It was awesome for him because he had access to a lot of things that were forbidden for spanish people through the american soldiers assigned to that military base.
And more... Due to the position of the moon, Armstrongs landing un te moon un 1969 was broadcasted from Canary Islands to the world
En mi pueblo, actualmente cerrado por culpa de gases volcánicos, durante la época de Franco había una base militar estadounidense de detección de submarinos, mi pueblo es Puerto Naos (Puerto De Naos) en la Isla de La Palma, Islas Canarias
In my town, currently closed due to volcanic gases, during the Franco era there was an American military base for detecting submarines, my town is Puerto Naos (Puerto De Naos) on the Island of La Palma, Canary Islands
I can't understan why he is not brought to sanctification with a university and a radar. He only killed more than 100000 spanish people! Not 1 million, 100000 people... Not to many humans 🎉
Didn't know that. Intelligent that Franco.
Jose Ortega y Gasset once wrote:
"We live at a time when man believes himself fabulously capable of creation, but he does not know what to create"
yeah thats my two favourite philosophers
And Chevy Chase once said, "Generalissimo Francisco Franco is still dead. There is no reported change in his condition."
@@albertocastellanos541José Ortega y Gasset it's one whole name, there's not two philosophers xD
@@AceroCarbono that´s the joke XD
How do you not have more subs, like genuinely? Your production value is so good
Yeah, what’s going on? Great production value and interesting videos and yet it doesn’t have that many subscribers?
Well, this just got another sub
@@S0ulSUrviv0R713 this is the second video I've watched, amazing production value. I feel like this channel could really be big one day, there is a niche for what they are producing.
@@rrider1998 it's a good one. It's a bit like History Oversimplified or Overly Sarcastic Productions
I love these short, info-filled videos :)
We all start somewhere
The way you say "boogaloo" tickles the ears.
It’s that nice stretched out “loooo”
Wow you here I’m a big fan
wow your here I'm not a big fan,
@@theidioticbgilson1466 lol who asked
Only the most based are watching this video I suppose
I always have respect for those TH-camrs which don't censore Nazi Germany flag for fear of demonetization. History didn't deserve to be censored! No matter how cruel it is!
But twist and contort everything else...
Huh
Note that you’re wrongly interchanging republic for democracy, Spain had been a constitutional monarchy since 1833 and was nominally a democracy albeit under the same circumstances regarding suffrage, similar to most European nations at that time.
Well, it is from a country where they call a constutional oligarchy with a unelected chamber an absent sovereign and lack of Impact of ones vote a democracy
Between 1833 and the first republic the suffrage was restricted only to the 1% richer, and male. Essentially, nobility, landowners, and the raising bourgeois. Freedom of press, speech, association... were much more restricted than in, say, UK.
After the first republic came the "Turnismo". Voting was less restricted, but the liberals and conservatives, lead by Canovas and Sagasta, agreed to alternate in power with absolute majority by means of electoral fraud - this is both very well documented and not even a secret at the time. After that came Primo de Rivera (Falange´s founder) dictatorship and after that the second republic. There was really not a democracy until 1931. France had universal suffrage or male universal suffrage at several points during its history before this.
@@ElHipokondriako Although proper democracy in Spain was not implemented until 1931, and that the military, aristocracy and dictators had control over the nation at that point: the First and Second Republics were republican regimes while the Kingdom was a monarchist regime. And nominally, all three were democracies so a better way of distinguishing them is by republic and monarchy which is how it is normally done.
As an Spaniard the problem of xix.century and early XX.century "democratic" monarchy was the slow steps to modernize the country. In terms of economy, democracy, corruption and the bad manage of the war against marocco. Mistakes that in 1898 was seen Spanish American war. Spain had 1 battleship when all great powers had 5 Minimum.
All this problems caused the intervention of military in polítical issues. The King only was the scapegoat of the politicians except assuming their mistakes.
One italian King that came to Spain trying to restore a government said: " Spain is ungovernable".
@@sciencefliestothemoon2305 Yes I agree, Spain resembles an Oligarchy now more than anything and democracy took it there. Good observation Christian
I've been sharing these with friends; you guys need to hit a million subs by the end of 2022
That's quite a imposible mission
@@losdirectosdetroopa973 What do you think now?
@@TurPauk A million subs in a history channel, thats pretty hard, it is a niche topic and also, TH-cam doesnt reward quality, it rewards speed. This videos clearly have A LOT of work behind them and delivering them fast is not possible. Thats why I think its almost impossible this channel will get a million subs by the end of 2022, although I would really like that happens
Everybody expected Franco's second in command, Carrero Blanco, to become the leader at the death of the generalísimo. But, something happened.
He got killed
He went on to become Spains first Astronaut
Good old ETA.
Two years before Franco himself.
A severe cause of bombingthehellouttahim happened,and thanks it did!
Very nice video! People even here tend to forget that qe never 'overthrew' the dictatorship, it ended through negotiation, and that is basically opposite to what happened elsewhere.
Still, Spain had had sorta-democracies before. As a reminder, Spain had the first parlamemtary entity (though the regime as a whole was faaar from a democracy, it was still an absolutist monarchy): the Cortes de León, back in 1188, which allowed dialogue between the priviledged (nobles and all that) and the unprivileged (peasants, or, more accurately, the representatives they chose).
Love from Spain! And thank you for explaining our history in a way one can wrap their head arround xd.
Amazing as usual! Your videos really do feel like those of the million-sub history channels.
I love the animation style. Also sidequest is going to be a big channel one day. I know it's going to happen.
He's getting there. The channel is closing in on 400k subs as I write this.
1:18 I actually spat out my tea and dropped my top hat at this part.
Had to get my servants to clean up the entire ballroom...
Great video, but I would like to point out that the transition to democracy wasn't just carried out by Juan Carlos alone, it was the will of the people, it was gaining momentum, it was basically inevitable.
I agree. The king read the writing in the wall (well it was explained to him, probably) and allowed for a peaceful transition, arbitrated by all international powers. Not much later Spain was in the EU and NATO, so clearly there were many interests beyond whatever the King wanted.
@@aitor9185 El rey (aunque su imagen ahora no está muy de moda) estaba decidido a hacer una democracia, peleando y torciendo la voluntad de los continuistas del régimen, y eligiendo a Suárez para que hiciera el cambio. Obligó por ejemplo a Arias Navarro a dimitir, e impuso su voluntad democrática a los franquistas. Él sabía que la dictatura no llevaba a ningún sitio. Incluso Franco (más listo que todos sus colaboradores y palmeros) sabía que la continuidad de la dictadura no tenía futuro, y por eso trajo a España al príncipe, para educarlo, y que fuera un referente neutral, viniera el régimen que viniera, que él sabía que sería una democracia. Juan Carlos simplemente fingía delante de él. Sólo tenía que ver que estábamos rodeados de democracias, y que la economía y la imagen de España estaba muy mermada por una dictadura. Ya no había soviéticos en España como en la guerra, y la OTAN y Europa iban a mirar con más simpatía a una democracia opuesta a la Unión Soviética, impidiendo que volviera el peligro de una dictadura del proletariado, que el mismo Franco había impedido. ¿Para qué seguir con una dictadura entonces?
@@ja8114 Muy de acuerdo contigo. El único reproche que le hago a Juan Carlos es que casi arruina su propio legado, al ser sus errores instrumentalizados por la izquierda (lo que por otra parte es lícito en democracia) pero espero que prevalezca lo que hizo durante la Transición y la influencia internacional, muy benéfica, que ha tenido y tiene la monarquía (casi más que los presidentes del gobierno), sobre todo para unirnos, cuando los nacionalistas quieren destruir todos los símbolos de unión. Lo que tenemos que hacer es reforzarlos.
You're spanish and you praise this antispanish propaganda? 😂😂 No wonder we are where we are. This video is a bad joke
@@Gloriaimperial1 Los años anteriores a la muerte de Franco el sentimiento de la gente era que cuando muriese Franco se acababa la dictadura. Eso podía haber acabado de muchas maneras, por supuesto, ya que en el poder seguían los franquistas. Pero yo también soy de la opinión de que Juan Carlos se dió cuenta de que no iba a salir adelante con lo otro fácilmente. Iniciando la transición se aseguró su propio futuro.
Your the only channel who's videos I don't want at 2x speed. Keep up the good work!!
I wish my history classes in high school had been this interesting and fun.
Unfortunately history isn't just about storytelling. It's about critical and analytical thinking that stretches far beyond the tellings of a single source. While channels like this are amazing at disseminating information in an engaging manner, they should always be viewed with a modicum of scepticism. What sources has the channel used? Are they mainly using secondary sources biased to one school of thought? Or are they using a combination of primary and secondary sources in order to come to their own conclusions in the retelling of their story? Anyway, I have appeared to have gone on something of a rant so I'll shut up. Just something to keep in mind.
Is sad to see such high quality content with so few views. I hope one day one of your videos goes viral and you become famous.
Cool! A new SideQuest video. I was wondering when the next one would come out.
1:31 actually, the anarchists and communists hated each other so much that during the civil war they started to fight between them. The war became a three-sided conflict that ended with the fascist winning. Also, there was another democratic period in the 1820s called "Trienio liberal". Finally, although Juan Carlos restored democracy here in Spain, he now is out of the country because he has stolen a lot of money from the Spanish government even while he was receiving a percentage of the taxes and was already rich. It's complicated to judge him because he stopped the coup of Tejero, saving the democracy in Spain. Anyways, the video is accurate and shows good the modern history of Spain.
No ha robado nada, no mientas.
He didn't stole anything. Don't lie.
@@hullie7529 depende de a quién preguntes te responderán cada cosa, pero el que ha robado es un hecho
@@enriquebenedicto506 En tu cabeza quizá, en la realidad no. Que muchos le acusan no te lo niego, pero las acusaciones de momento hay que probarlas. Al menos si queremos distanciarnos de los linchamientos populares.
@@hullie7529
Siga creyendo en “monarcas santos”🧎🧎🧎
Problem is that the spanish king can't be judged by law since he is considered "not responsible of his actions". Juan carlos. when he abdicated and lost that protection, was given the non-existent title of "Emerit king" so that he couldn't be prosecuted for corruption.
Awesome stuff as always, thank you!
Dude... This is amazing quality content... You surely deserve more subs and views. My wishes
Este canal merece tener millones de seguidores. ¡Muchísimas gracias por hacer un vídeo de España! Saludos desde Madrid.
This channel deserves millions of followers. Thank you a lot for making a video about Spain! Greetings from Madrid.
Totalmente de acuerdo, tiene mucho talento, y merece mucho más reconocimiento por ello. Saludos desde Toledo.
Saludos desde Madrid también
One of my favourite TH-cam channels. Keep up the great work!
Why this channel hasn't blow up yet,the quality is outstanding!!!!!!
Ok, I must point out something: you missed another democratic chapter in spanish history: the Borbonic Restoration (I probably translated it wrong, it's "Restauración Borbónica" in Spanish). From 1874 (IIRC) to 1923, there was a democratic (though, extremely corrupt) regime under the monarchy of Alfonso XII, Queen Maria Cristina (when his son was too young) and Alfonso XIII. In 1923, King Alfonso XIII supported a coup d'etat made by the spanish army and lead by General Miguel Primo de Rivera (BTW, his son would be the creator of Falange during the 2nd Republic). In 1930 there was a 2nd dictator that didn't last very long because democrats, republicans and socialists agreed to create the 2nd republic, which lasted until the Spanish Civil War (1936-39).
I absolutely love these episodes and the little bits added in here and there! So good!
Gigachad Juan Carlos: "I used the dictatorship to destroy the dictatorship."
Like thanos using stones to destroy the stones
Eso es falso
Democracy was also gaining political support - neighboring Portugal overthrew their dictator the year before in 1974. Juan Carlos knew his time was up
Traición
Franco's second in command becoming Spain's first astronaut also helped
Cuando Carrero Blanco murió España fue para abajo , el tenía grandes proyectos a futuro para españa entre ellos el nuclear lo cual haría de españa un país a tener en cuenta.
Un chiste muy gracioso y sobre todo muy original, pero junto a Carrero murieron su escolta y su conductor, gente de clase media que nada tenía que ver y a los cuales sus familias todavía les echan de menos y les tienen que recordar de manera dolorosa cada vez que un descerebrado como tú lo dice.
@@Natetip777 Cuando Franco empezó el golpe de estado España se fue mucho más para abajo. Imagínate si no hubiéramos tenido por pasar por la pos-guerra ni la autocracia.
@@Natetip777España iría para abajo, pero Carrero Blanco fué para arriba xd
Although this was a great video, there are some minor inaccuracies that I feel like addressing. For starters, while it’s true that Franco’s regime was fascist in its beginning due to the influence of the Falangist party, after the Second World War Franco started to distance himself from fascism and by the early 60s Spain, while still being a totalitarian state, had moved far away from the teachings of fascism, especially in regards to the economics. This is due to the gradual replacement of falangist ministers with technocrats.
Another minor inconsistency is that you referred to Juan Carlos swearing fidelity to Falange. However, by this time Falange had come to be known as “Movimiento Nacional”, which was much less associated with Fascism and was almost merely a formality.
Finally, it is implied here that Juan de Borbon, Count of Barcelona supported his son Juan Carlos after taking the throne. In reality, Juan de Borbon reacted negatively to his son inheriting the throne and didn’t even recognize him as the legitimate king of Spain until 1977.
Juan de Borbon was also not very democratic himself. Sure, he might have favored a constitutional monarchy of sorts but not necessarily a democratic one like we have today. Bear in mind one of Juan de Borbon’s main supported was Gil Robles, ex-leader of the CEDA, a hard right party from the time of the republic with ties to fascism.
All in all the video is pretty good. When it started comparing to Britain I already said "Oh, no. One of these again". But after that it drew the rough picture fine enough.
Also the national side suspected that there was a fraud in the 1936 elections (which has been proven to a certain extent now) and their intentions were to celebrate elections again, also Franco wasn't even the leader, he just ended up there through sheer luck and strategy since he was really smart
I love your videos they’re accurate, and they have soul making them unique and extremely entertaining
Nice video, and greetings from Spain!
Recommended you to my friends and they like your content. Love from Denmark, I'm sure you will get a large channel if you keep it up with this quality.
Great stuff as always.
Funnily nough you'd think that a dictators memory would be demonized, but in spain there's quite a few people that openly glorify it and the huge problems like when they confiscated the Pazo de Meiras from the descendants of the said dictator, which resulted in said amily stealing the contents that were inside.
Also to note; due to the spanish king not being able to be judged so long as he's in power there has been some serious corruption going on (mainly with juan carlos). Furthermore, each time there have been attempts to strive towards transparency certain political groups go nuts declaring it a "attack on the royal family and thus an attack on spain".
All this puts a huge stain on the spanish democracy in my opinion.
The system ruling Spain between 1875 to 1921 is called "la restauración" and had a democratically elected parliament with a constitution. It was as much a democracy as their British counterpart, maybe more corrupt but a democracy nonetheless. And was until recently the longest period of political stability seeing by Spain in centuries.
Sin decir que la II República era mejor, debo admitir que la Restauración fue tan solo un show de dos partidos y unas elecciones amañadas por caciques. No había democracia real en ese entonces, aunque existieran las instituciones. Sí fue verdad que España tuvo paz interna.
Is democracy when elections are a fraud?
Results were agreed previously.
Well, """""democracy"""""
@@Oblivion5367 misma "democracia" que con la republica, ¿ganan las derechas las elecciones? Pues intento dar un golpe de estado, eso sí, no le llamamos golpe de estado que queda feo, le llamamos "revolución", igual que se mira para otro lado mientras se ataca a los monárquicos o se queman los conventos, ¿recuerda?
@@marcpegueroles6769 at least as democratic as the Republic that came after the fall of the Monarchy
Way to go, Juan Carlos!
Hugh Thomas's The Spanish Civil War goes into Spain's bad 1808-1939. Franco's dictatorship mellowed out as time went by. There were a lot more nasty places Spain could have gone. Research the meeting he had with Hitler in 1940. Spain sent some soldiers to Barbarossa to return Stalin's favor in the late war, and called them home when it became clear that Hitler was gonna lose.
Franco also went out of his way to make Hitler hate him personally so Germany would avoid any unnecessary business with Spain.
"I'd rather have four teeth extracted without gas than meet again", et al.
@@Stroggoii Hitler was personally disgusting to many. His anticlerical views would have been first to annoy Franco, then it would get worse.
Yet this country was good enough for the German dictator to test their new air raid squadron -> Guernica
@@gabbyn978 The Soviets tested their aerial bombing technique, but did not have a famous artist paint it as an advertisement.
@@tomfrazier1103 (confused) in a foreign country that was supposed to be an ally? What are you referring to?
Love this channel! Keep up the great stuff!
Técnicamente una fantástica presentación, muy imaginativa y colorida, perfecta para mentes infantiles. Totalmente maniquea y prescindible, desde la primera frase cuando se cuenta la tradición democrática europea y puedes comprobar que el sufragio femenino en Francia no llega hasta después de la 2ª mundial y en Gran Bretaña nunca antes de 1928 ( las colonias tampoco votarán), además de completamente descontextualizado, como si fueran iguales Suiza y España, la cual aún está en un proceso desintegrador postimperial al que este video pone su granito ya consciente o inconscientemente. Un detalle el tío Sam junto a su pigargo sin mencionar la dictadura del proletariado desde el año 17 y su expansión a partir de la derrota alemana a todo el este de Europa hasta los años 90. Y entre muchas otras lindezas se salta el proceso de autodigestión de las cortes franquistas y la aprobación por plebiscito de una constitución en 1978. En fin, fantástico video para seguir promoviendo ignorancia y odio, fantástico para demagogos (creación de la democracia) e hipócritas.
Was almost democratic? It was a constitutional monarchy before the republic, just as Britain
So spain wasnt a democracy because it had a monarchy in the 19th century, unlike uk that it was a democracy even if it had (amd still has) a monarchy
Have you ever heard about a parlamentiary monarchy? I mean, like the uk, the dutch, belgian, sweeden, etc.. etc...
Spain wasn't a democracy during the 19th century because, before the 1868's Glorious Revolution, the liberals and conservatives constantly overthrew by coups each other's governments, and after the restoration of the Bourbon Monarchy in 1874, the Canovist System began, in which the two parties alternated in power so peacefully that they even used to agree who was gonna win the next "elections".
This video oversimplifies the history of Spain. There were many attempts at parlamentiary democracy as soon as the 1820s, they were opposed by the monarchy pretty heavily. No mention too of the 1923 dictadorship-with-a-king (TM) that fell when the 1930 democratic republic started.
So basically spain monarchs were total despots that only started liberalizing when it was that or disappear.
@@tile7769 The video mentions it. It starts with the typical "Britain is better" that you can find at any video made by British, but it paints a fair (while rough) picture after that.
Saying that the Secon Republic was democratic. Well, it has a big asterisk.
Not only your animations, your illustrations are simply
brilliant.
I think Adolfo Suarez and the President of the Franquist Courts (yes, there was a parliment, just a very obligarquic and un-democratic one), Torcuato Fernández-Miranda who did most of the job to transform Spain into a democracy
Miranda, the only man that called "senile old man" to Franco in his own face, and only Franco in the room understood what Miranda had said 😂😂
It wildly known in Spain that the Juan Carlos blinked. He wanted to keep power but seen it would be the end of him. Don't give him props.
He could just as easily oppose it and if worse came to be, take up his chances and start a new civil war, he deserves the credit.
I’ve binged all your videos from this one very entertaining, been reading ‘homage to Catalonia’ very good to hear the story articulated again for new masses.
Quality video, thank you!
Omg i just can‘t watch this, this representation of the transicion is not right. We had a seminar at Uni about exactly this.
Winners write history and so did juan carlos „el bobòn“… He was not, as he had some historians write „el piloto del cambio“ (the pilot of the transition).
As some commenters have pointed out already, dictatorship in spain after Francos death would no longer have been fiesable due to changing sentiments amongst the people and the political semioscope around europe. JC had to realise that even if he tried he couldn‘t have upheld a dictatorship.
Militaryman Tejeros coup in 1981 which JC allegedly ended singlehandedly was not unknown to JC before happening, historians have pointed that out in the last decade. JC had knowledge of the forthcoming military coup, let it happen and waited out how the spanish people and world media would react, it was only after that he realised a dictatorship couldn’t have been upheld any longer and took position against the coup, and thus initiated the transition to democracy.
The version represented in the video is still the commonly known one but it is highly patchy and incomplete in its true telling of history.
The short answer is ‘money’. The fascist rulers knew that with democracy, the gates of credit and foreign investor’s wallets will open. When someone in Spain tells very loudly how patriotic they are, you know their money is in a tax haven. Even our former king is living in a self imposed exile to avoid being prosecuted for tax evasion.
There are no charges against him since months for that, even Switzerland has cancel the charges
the general situation of the country was much better with franco than it is now with a gov sold to the international business and interesta
(It’s not hate)- It’s a pretty inaccurate video. I understand that Spanish transition it’s a very complex subject, but this video it’s not just simplify but competing very sustancial errors, being the two principal: Don Juan Carlos don not have such protagonism in it, and it is pretty simplistic to identify periods of democracy in Spain with the only ones who have a democratic regime. But it’s understandable to be complicated to understand it in a small period of time. I love the animation btw.
I mean... If you ignore the entire 19th Century and reduce it to "Monarchy or democracy" then it's alright, I guess... I'll grant it has a superb animation, but the research... Not so much.
Your presentation is too simplistic. Spain’s course is so rich and worth understanding. It reflects the complexity of human history.
You have a chance to help educate humanity if you control your bias.
Buddy... this IS a simple video. The whole channel is about simple videos.
If you want something more in depth then maybe you should go an watch an actual documentary?
It’s “simplistic” because it’s six minutes long, this video is meant to be an entertaining introduction, not an exhaustive documentary.
@@jamestown8398 Perhaps I was not an effective communication, a fault my spouse will frequently note.
My issue was with the bias.
Agreed. There's a sense of anglosaxon bias that runs through the entire video that goes from the title, through the analysis all the way to the little joke at the end ridiculing the spanish legacy by imitating rhe accent of a mexican peasant that has nothing to do with the Kingdom of Spain. The bias is much too obvious.
My man got born with a name like Francisco Franco and just knew he was meant to be the protagonist.
Based GigaChad
Francisco bahamonde franco, or paquito rana to the homies
@@juanon_industries7256 Francisco Franco Bahamonde, "Bahamonde y Pardo de Andrade" era el apellido de la madre y el apellido materno siempre va segundo
@@pedropalotes7638 ahhhh, solo que un día escuche que le dijeron francisco bahamonde franco y nunca pense mas sobre el orden de los apellidos👍
Great video as always! Funny, informative and great quality. :)
I love this channel with a passion. If the videos were released more often or on a more consistent intervals this channel could rival some of the biggest out there for history in a year or two easily
A week ago, this channel was at 60k. Now, it's at 200. Quite the jump.
As a spanish historian i must say that you are confusing the term democracy with republic. Between the two republics, the government could be understand like a democracy, incomplete, but democracy, even with a King. Just like Spain now, just like UK...
Democracy??? There's not even separation of powers in this country, wtf
Fun fact: Adolfo Suarez was at some point member of the Falange
Fun fact: culaquier persona que quisiera tener labores de gobierno debía pertenecer a la FET de las JONS
Y Felipe González
That's par for course for single party dictatorships. You ain't gonna be allowed to work for the state unless you're a member of the ruling party.
Well....many major things missed there I'm afraid.
-Cadis constitution from 1812 was actually the first "modern parlamentary regime" try...which goes bad, but put the basis for Amadeo de Saboya's monarch parlamentary regime.
-Suárez in 1975 was not a liberal, he was totally part of Franco's regime. He was just opportunist.
-Tensions with nationalities beneath Spanish territory has been a major vector of conflicts between many political left and right forces, between federalish territories and a jacobinistic center. Missing this is a gross error.
-the Coup d'état in 1981 done by comandant Tejero, was a manouver of the monarchy, they let him go on with the first moves, to publicly stop him before it was too late. Exactly the same that DeGaulle did with Algeria colonialist militaries in the 70's and what is already told in "The Prince" of Maquiavelo, when he talks about ruling over a reluctant city you just conquered. Nothing new or bizarre. Indeed, Tejero was judged for this, and the video and statements he did in court are still official secrets in Spain...so...
You just missed 2 key plot points. One if Carrero Blanco hadn't been blown up by ETA he would have carried out the full fascists regime after Franco and 2 Tejero's pretended coup had some backing from Juan Carlos himself. Everything else is quite good.
El fascismo solo furó los primeros años del franquismo , luego ya se volvió Nacional-Catolicismo.
Lo de que Juan Carlos tuvo algo que ver con el golpe de Tejero es una conspiranoia muy popular entre los que llevan gorritos de alumino, pero seamos serios.
@@Natetip777 no eso, desde el principio el cuñadísimo se basó más en el Estado Novo portugués que en Mussolini y compañía, al final la "Nueva España" de Franco no era más que una suma de intereses buscando un sistema de equilibrio donde Franco siempre hiciese falta, y cada vez que se cargaba a un ministro de una "familia" hacia lo propio con la otra, incluso después de haber defenestrado a Yagüe lo hizo volver por que sabía que Yagüe no quería saber nada de la monarquía cuando los generales monárquicos intentaron que cediese el poder a Juan de Borbón, con el regreso de Yagüe al generalato se encontraron los monárquicos en minoría
Amazing video but you could’ve also mentioned that otto von habsburg was also asked to become king which he refused
As I Spaniard I feel most of my fellow compatriots need a reminder of this instead of demonizing so thoroughly Juan Carlos. Not to excuse certain behaviors but when all is on the scale we still have a debt because he really had a choice.
Two small corrections to the video, Spain from 1931 to 1939 was a full democracy comparable to any other European country, so the "history of Spanish democracy" does not begin in 1970, furthermore, Spain was not neutral during the 2WW, it was non-belligerent. Very good video.
Well, I wouldn't say that Spain was a perfect democracy during the 2nd republic since women couldn't vote in the 1931 elections and in 1936 there was also an electoral fraud. Also, Spain declared their war state as neutral until 1942, when Franco decided to support Germany against the USSR and the US against Japan due to the Spanish genocide in Philippines. The only front in which Spain remained neutral was the one between Germany and the US
@@ShadasinGaeshi 1- There is a difference between being neutral and non-belligerent and Spain was non-belligerent.
2- I have not said that Spain is a perfect democracy, only that it was a complete democracy if we compare it with the rest of the European countries that are called democracies in the 1930s.
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@@yokin0996 actually Spain was both, from 1939 to 1943 was non-belligerent, and from 1943 to 1945 was neutral. That is why Blue Division was disolved in 1943
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Well... We had "democracies" in the XIX century. Though they were terrible... More or less like the one we've got today hahaha.
And by the way, the 1st Spanish Republic tried to create a federal state copying the USA in the beginning....... It failed miserably.
The colony surpasses its home continent. How do you Europeans feel about being at the mercy of one of your former colonies? I bet it's pretty humiliating. Are those oil and gas prices nice and high now? Just wait until winter rolls around again. 😂😂😂
La primera República tuvo 4 presidentes , dos a favor de una república unitaria y dos de una federal, el problema que se encontraron a la hora de decidir los estados es que no podían hacer como los americanos y expulsar a todos los que vivían ahí desde hacía siglos
British, German, French, Russian or Italian democracy in the 19th century were very imperfect (prohibition of women voting, prohibition of voting for the poor, or direct dictatorships of Napoleon III and Bismarck) We do not need to flag ourselves, our European brothers also had much to progress in that regard.
La democracia mató a españa. Un puñado de ignorantes elegirán a un presidente ineficiente o peor aún que quiera suicidar al país como hace Pedro Sánchez.
i love history chanels on youtube and just found this one, maybe is the lack of social media, or the name or the fact that youtube really don't likes short videos. it is surprising the low number of subscribers with the great quality of the content. but then again I am the target audience and yet youtube never recommended me this channel until today.
bastante detallado y bien estructurado me gusta el video
This is one of those times when you got to wonder what was different about Juan vs Franco what caused one to be a dictator and the other a liberal king who not only agree to give up power but threw it away without even being asked. Now you could say upbringing but I highly doubt that his calls with you US were going on so often that they canceled out Franco’s teaching so I have to assume their must have been some king of hard wiring that lead to these outcomes. Also Spain basically finally got democracy on luck.
I doubt he learned democracy from Kissinger. He had no problem with Latin American dictatorships tossing people into the sea out of helicopters.
Most likely US pressure
@@FunnyBlackHole Since when does the USA exert pressure for democracy?
Honestly I assume it was the father who wanted democracy
@@HUNDmiau Now that you say that, I imagine Kissinger could have been trying to convince him to go full monarchy and it backfired lol
Lovely channel. Friendly observation: from 1833 to 1923 there were elections, liberals and conservatives alternating power, like Wigs and Tories. Canovas & Sagasta were our Gladstone & Disraeli. Monarchy and democracy are not opposites (are they? 🧐🇬🇧). The first Democratic constitution in Spain was in 1812. Fernando VII became an absolute king (🤨) tolerating liberals for 3 year but at his death in 1833, there were changes in the electoral system in 1834, 1837, 1843, 1845, 1852, 1857 and 1865 before Amadeo of Saboya came. So indeed democracy was not comparable to 70’s standards but it was in line with XIXth century and early XXth century standards.
Love it. Vastly Underrated
I'm so glad I stumbled across this channel. Man is it splendid stuff
Good video.
Quite cool seeing a video of my country in a foreign lenguage.
1:55 goofy ahh name, imagine having your initials matching.
Your content is phenomenal
Good on you, Juan.
Great videos. I would love if you could produce a video on Spain’s 16-17th centuries.
There is an abundance of videos about what went wrong, but a scarcity on what went right, and for how long.
Most will be corrupted, he will probably said that Spain had colonies, killed natives and stealed things when that's falls and that's the spanish black legend
“Really just wanted their church back?!?” What?! That’s a pretty generous definition of fascism.
FUN FACT: Juan Carlos I turned out to be one of the most corrupt monarchs in all of Europe…
Thanks for another great one !
There are quite many mistakes, the big ones are the mention Spain hasn't really been a democracy until the 1970s... It was since 1812 with the Constitution of Cádiz, but I think the first time Spanish could vote was in 1839/40 or close, maybe they could on the liberal revolution of 1822... But for the entire last half of the 1800 and until the civil war (with Primo de Ribera's rule spare, supported in a begining by almost everyone) Spain has been as democracy as any other wester country, similar in quality and intensity.
2 I don't understand why the title includes (narrowly), right now Spain is one of the freest country and has one of the most transparent democracy in the world, we are ranking down thanks to Pedro Sánchez...
3 Spain was one of the first countries reaching UNIVERSAL SUFFRAGE by extending it to women, in 1934 Switzerland in the 60s.... And the "right" were the ones fighting for it, it is important to mention the liberals too, as Clara Campoamor.
Overall the video is not bad, but please make sure next time the data is correct.
See you, be good and respect others!
Spain was not a democracy in 1812... Limiting the absolutist powers of the king with some counterpowers and liberal reforms don't mean it's a democracy.
@@gontrandjojo9747 it technically was, as much as England for example but the voting never took place until a couple decades later
The intro is very misleading. You're mixing up being a republic with being a democracy. If the early Netherlands, the UK and France are considered a "democracy" during the 19th century, so is Spain during the last half of the 19th century and the first two decades of the 20th century.
Totally and absolutly desagree.
When Franco died the society wanted to open a the country and have different system. Adolfo Suarez was part of the dictatorial system, not an outsider.
There were strikes every where, and the situation was very tense.
Only a few people wanted the system to remain as it was.
I already knew very well the topic, you've done some great research
You could have noticed how unpopular the monarchy is in Spain today, much of which is also work of king Juan Carlos
It's like 50% hate 50% love.
Many hate the monarchy (me included)
And many love the monarchy
@@oregum Por donde yo vivo (Toledo y Madrid) es bastante 50/50.
La verdad es que se podría saber cómo de popular es exactamente si se preguntara a la gente, al fin y al cabo algunos anti-monarquicos hacen mucho ruido
Es como la independencia de Cataluña, parece que la mayoría lo quiere y es muy popular, pero eso es sólo porque los independentistas hacen mucho ruido
@@losdirectosdetroopa973 To me the independentist won many elections over many years.
Maybe this is foreign propaganda cause I'm aren't spanish but tho.
Always funny for european country to force Serbia to lose Kosovo bc there is the "self determination of people", but everybody close their eyes when Cataluna does it x)
[But yeah, spanish didn't tried to commit genocide against catalonia....Since Franco x) ]
I just don't get how ppl can still defend Franco in Spain. The few times I've been there, I was amazed by the cult around this dictator. I mean...He garroted students ffs, how ppl could defend his actions....
@@lepangolin4080 1. Spain doesnt support the ilegal independene of Kosovo
2. The PSC (unionist) has also won many elections, the independence thing is very 50/50
3. I dont know where you been but franquistas are very very little people
@@lepangolin4080 It happens when people don't tell the real history. Russia has Lenin/Stalin, USA has Confederacy/Jim Crow/Native policy, Turkey has Armenian genocide that get propaganda instead of truth.
History is full of so many fascinating stories I can’t believe I didn’t already know because they’re so incredible you’d think people would be talking about them all the time.
How did I only just now discover this channel. It baffles my mind that a channel this small manages to produce such high quality content. Interesting content never stop.
These videos are amazing!!
I wish I had a guide like you back when I was in school. This was so well informed.
Well you just erased the XIX century from 1831 to 1923 .
Except for the period of Franco (1939-1975) and Primo de Rivera (1923-1930), Spain has been celebrating elections since 1833.
The first universal suffrage elections were celerbrated on 1868.
Well, As a Spaniard i would add what kind of democracy was made. It was not a Democracy system choosen by people, was a Democracy chosen by a dictator, wich was made to be imposible to be changed. Spain still have the 3 main powers controlled by only 1 person, while Montesquieu told us about the importance of dividing them. Also important to understand how voting system was made to allow big groups and not let space to small bands of people , what happed with all Fraco's friends witch remained with the power of the country or how us or the problem with autonomies.
I had to look at the date to be sure this wasnt april fools joke.
This video is 40% accurate, 60% fantasy.
Love the depiction of violence! Keep that up!
“Shining examples like the uk”
Good one 😂