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- MAX REVS gets an exclusive opportunity to bring together and compare two members of the Porsche Cayman S family. In this video we explore the design differences between the 987 and 981.
I thought I'd prefer my 987.2 by a mile, but I left appreciating both for their merits.
These are the Caymans you want! Those with naturally aspirated 6 cylinder engines.
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Arctic blue? You mean Aqua Blue Metallic? Fairly certain there is no arctic blue. In my opinion both Cayman's are beautiful cars. However I think the 987.2 has the prettier lines overall with the flying buttress's being much more pronounced along with a bit more curvy, the 981 has a bit sharper lines. Now the GT4 seems to correct the subtleness of the 981 being much more aggressive looking, as did the Cayman R for the 987.2 gen.
Thank-you for your comments and correction on the colour. You’re right! The dealership (911virgin) contacted me as soon as the video went up to say the same thing about the dodgy colour I mentioned. Would have taken me 4 hours to correct, what with editing and uploading 3Gb to TH-cam. I’m going to pin this comment at the top ;-)
I agree, I really love the raw look of the 981 GT4 in particular, both are beautiful in their own way. Thanks for pinning. Take care.
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nls8520 As owner of R & GT4 I totally agreed with your brilliant observation .
@@allenliu4224 WOW!! You have the Cayman R *AND* a 981 GT4?! Amazing! If you would like to feature your cars on this channel by making a short video with your ownership story that would be awesome. Many people have decided to share their Cayman stories on this channel during lockdown. You are the only person I know with the R and a GT4!!
The 987 has a nicer front end.
The 981 has a nicer rear.
They're equally nice in side profile.
981 has a better interior.
987 hasn't got the electric steering.
It's small differences but if I was in a 987 and pulled up beside a 981 I wouldn't feel short changed. Positives and less positives on both cars and two different versions together is not a competition, it's a celebration.
It’s almost like Porsche realized that the 987.1 front end looked too much like the 911…and deliberately made it uglier in subsequent generations. In my opinion Porsche got the styling right first time.
Nah..the 987 has a better front and rear cuz the lights are smaller, more traditional, and elegant but the 981 has a better side profile cuz the side intakes are bigger, interior wise I actually think the 987 is better cuz it doesn’t have that high center console that you bump your knee into on newer Porsche’s
Excellent comparison... definitely one I've been wanting to see for a while. Had the cars not been so similar, I don't think it would have been as effective. THIS is why I love this channel, you always make the extra effort. Keep doing great things.
Thanks for the feedback. Yeah I got lucky this time with such similar specs. If only they had a 718 Cayman S in blue too ;-)
In my opinion it's the 987 all day every day. Both are gorgeous cars but the look and feel of the 987 is just amazing. It's a future curvy classic that I think will stand the test of time. Thanks for a great video!
Thanks for taking the time to share your opinion👍🏼
I agree. I love the classic lines of the 987. The 981 rear end looks too fussy for my taste. I actually love the look of the 986 as well!
Most informative,thank you for a most comprehensive comparison, with adequate linger time to take in all you mentioned. One thing was apparent was the relocation of the high stop brake lamp to a superior location. Well done.
Great complete video, looks like you really enjoy doing it.
I was waiting for the rear trunk comparisson
Hi! It was on the agenda... I just ran out of time. I think I could have spent another 30 minutes with both cars!! I wanted to talk about the different door panels too...
Great side by side comparison. I enjoyed it very much, very informative. Thanks!
Pedro Rivera Glad you enjoyed it. May I please ask for a favour? This weekend I am so close to reaching 1,000 subscribers, it would be really great if you could please subscribe to this channel if you are not already.
Tough call. The 987 is the more analog of the two and in the dawn of the electric car age, that means its something special. Physical key ignition, NA flat 6 engine, manual gearbox, these are all things you won't find in the next decade or there after. The 987 has a very expensive to manufacture rear end, I'm sure Porsche cut back here on the 981, the horizontal line and plastic used by the vents is a clue. Less sheetmetal bends in the 981 also saves money. The 987 came out during a worldwide recession, almost a depression not many out there. Still though the 981 is beautiful too and both have the key NA flat 6 engines, you can't go wrong with either.
Thanks for the GREAT comments. Never thought about the sheet metal stuff before... very insightful👍🏼
The 981 also has a much stiffer body. 40,000 NM/degree versus 30,000NM/degree of the 987 gen2. This improves the handling /cornering reliability... who would have thought that was even possible! :)
alunmauve Wasn’t something I was aware of.
very well put
I just bought a 2015 Cayman 981, which is sapphire blue metallic, black interior, today. It has the sport wheel upgrade, 6 speed and 32k miles. Thanks for the detailed comparisons, I know I made the right choice. I'll get my first look at it when it arrives next week from a dealer in Michigan. I'm giving up my 1986 Red Turbo Porsche. Time to upgrade.
Jersey Mel Ah man, sweet times for you coming up. Congratulations!! Plus you have one of the most desirable body colours imho. Don’t see many blue Caymans around on the roads. That is a great late model 981 with low mileage which you’ve managed to find. May I ask, did you have to wait around for this Cayman, or was it available the moment you started to look for a new car? Sounds like it’s a real keeper!! I wish you many happy years of motoring to come.
I'm going to have to say the 987 aesthetically, is the best looking of the two imho.
Really enjoyed your channel today. Watched numerous vids and can only say keep it up. Looking to upgrade from a 944S to a CaymanS. Appreciate your insight. Cheers from Sweden.
Thanks for your kind words. If you have a 944, and if you haven't seen this video, I highly recommend it. It's about a Cayman from the perspective of a 944 owner.
th-cam.com/video/XIBiy2rvArw/w-d-xo.html
981 more modern but 987 more more sexy
Spectacular! If you have the time, and are really looking at the cars to buy. This is nicely in-depth. Bravo!!
Dockwalk Thanks for your comments. For a small niche channel, I try my best to bring the joy of Caymans to the masses.
987.2 is like a German Dino in some respects with a more timeless, curvier aesthetic than the 981. The 981 by comparison seems a bit more like a 308 - more angular, and probably a slight performance edge from engine tune and lighter-weight materials. That said, I prefer our 987.2 for its curves, the last of the hydraulically assisted steering, better visibility. Great vids you're making - keep up the fine work.
Thanks for the comments and interesting comparisons to those Italian models👍🏼
Really nice video! Thanks.
Tech Tribu - Alain Glico You're more than welcome, and thanks for taking the time to leave a comment👍🏼
Had them both. Just something about the 987. Less "movie by committee".
If I could just have a 987 exterior with a 981 interior life would be perfect
Thanks, I’m now preparing my bank account and the wife. It’s like deciding between chocolate or strawberry ice cream.
To me 😂
Good times ahead either way👍🏼
What a great idea for a movie 😉😍😍
The 987 Cayman is a thing of beauty.
For sure👍🏼. Although I now hold the 981 in higher regard than previously.
Turkey. Strange at the rear.
Great video. Great timing.. I'm in the market for either a 987.2 or 981. I realy want the more updated interior, but in the end the body lines of the 987.2 are pushing me towards that generation. My vote is 987.2
Both will make you smile😃
Andy. What I would say is properly view each car if you can. I always thought the 987 was the better looking car from magazines and videos. Getting up close to the 981, and spending some time with it... it really grows on you. Especially if you want a more updated interior. For me budget was an issue, the 981 was too expensive. Anyhow I love my 987, and I understand why people also love the 981. As for the 718...
Personally I don't think the raised center console/shifter looks good on the 981. Full disclosure: I own a 987.2 😂
MAX REVS thanks. Thats what I'll do. I also need to be aware of the amount of $$$ I spend. Even tge 987.2 will streach me. But... I want to make the right choice
You will love either...
Nice video, good effort!
PorscheAddict Thanks for taking the time to comment. Feedback like this keeps me motivated to produce more content👍🏼
I drive a 987 Cayman in Atlas Grey Metallic and it's the only car I've owned where the novelty factor has never wore off, even after 18 months of ownership. It's beautiful to look at and a fantastic car to drive. I've never driven a 911 and I may one day take the plunge but I somehow think it won't be any better than what I have.
James Richardson I hear you man! I’m in a similar position... 987.2 manual. Would like a bit more power, but would never forgo the mid-engined layout for a 911. Now if I could afford a Cayman GT4...
@@MAXREVS I also forgot to mention my car is also an ex 911 Virgin car, the guy I bought it from purchased it from them and he only kept it for 6 months saying that it was too noisy for him being mid-engined. I can't understand his thinking as that Howl right behind you in 2nd and 3rd gear is just so hypnotic to me.
I know what you mean about the mid-engined balance, and that's before we even get onto the road holding.
My finances can go to 25k which puts me in a 2006 model 997 with around 70-80k miles, maybe just outside of the scary IMS issues of the earlier cars.
Do I risk it knowing I'd let my faultless 987 go. !!!!
Any Cayman 987 (G1/G2) vs an older, higher mileage 997? Ultimately it’s your choice, so I won’t tell you what to do. From your point of view, what is the appeal of the 997? Is it simply because it’s a 911? Do you need the back seats? There is a lot of emotional magic attached to the 911, I won’t deny that. However if you already own a Cayman, you already have the handling dynamics, chassis, and I would argue better engine placement. So the only other reasons to specifically get a 911, say versus a Cayman 981/718 (with the more modern interiors), is because there must be a characteristic of the 911 which you’re after, that you don’t have in your Cayman. What is that? Plus getting an older, higher mileage car when your existing Cayman has been faultless... hmmmmm.
It’s tongue in cheek, but check this video out - th-cam.com/video/7rL597h8z08/w-d-xo.html
@@MAXREVS ...you hit the nail right on the head, ......it's because it's a 911.
I'll admit I'm a badge snob, :-) always have been but now that I have the badge do I have the right model I ask myself. My Cayman is everything I could wish for but I somehow hanker over the Kudos and the legendary status of the 911.
I understand Cayman owners are correct when they say the handling is better, the car is newer and more up to date and controversially it's put together that little bit better but still the 911 draw is strong.
I think your head rules your heart which is the most sensible option whereas in my case it's the opposite. I'm also a bit greedy and wish I could have both. ;-)
Maybe a few hours behind the wheel of a 911 will put all this nonsense in my head to rest.
A great review by the way, looking at the finer points of the styling changes is always overlooked, a nice soundtrack too. Enjoy your weekend.
James Richardson By the way, nothing wrong with hankering after a 911. Calling yourself a badge snob is a bit harsh if you ask me ;-) We all have dreams and aspirations only we can understand, and sometimes even we don’t understand ourselves!! Do what you think is right for yourself, and don’t worry about the others. My only comment would be the age of the car you’re looking to buy into. I just shot raw footage of my next video today... I learnt that a Porsche isn’t designed to live forever, and as many of the components are geared towards sports cars, that means they’re lighter, and won’t last as long as thicker, heavier components. Stay tuned for the next video!
I have a 2007 Cayman S and I'm more then happy with it!
I don't feel short changed at all even if I'm next to a brand new Cayman, my car is wonderful to drive and I love the fact that it has proper power steering! 😀
Still loving it? Thinking of grabbing one
987 is the one that has me interested I saw one with a gt3 style front bumper and now its all I can think about
981 for sure. The rear design with spoiler kind of continuing into the rear lights is such a nice detail. And the interior in the 981 is much nicer.
Great review! Nice to have two Caymans like that together to compare. Love the blue. I’m not sure the Sapphire blue was available on the those Caymans. I think the 981 was a 2014? . I have it on my Macan which is when it was launched. Keep up the good work.
Thanks for your comments. Was a great opportunity to get those cars side by side, and I must thank 911virgin again👍🏼. There should be a comment pinned on this video about the colours, as I was kindly corrected by someone.
Wasn't it called cobalt blue for the 987?
I definitely got the colour name wrong. Someone did correct me somewhere in the comments. I'll pin that comment when I find it.
Found it and pinned it. Aqua blue👍🏼
Having had a 987.2 then a 981 I like certain things better on each of them plus things I don't like as much. Ergonomically speaking I prefer the interior of the 987 while I like the interior styling, fit and finish of the 981 interior. The 987 has hydraulic steering which I prefer. I also like the 3 handy pop out CD trays in the glove box of the 987 and wish they had carried them over to the 981. I actually prefer the headlight design of the 987.2 better than the 981 but I like the much more aggressive side intakes and the rear spoiler design of the 981. If I could reverse time knowing what I know now I probably would have kept my Meteor Grey 987.2. It was a little too front heavy looking compared with the 981 but the rear overhang of the 987 I prefer over the 981 which feels a tad short to me. I like the Aqua and Sapphire Blue color like these the best but was unable to locate one so I settled for the Meteor Grey which I like a lot too.
I’ve got a 981 Boxster S and with the top down, it has very similar lines of my favorite Porsche of all time-the Carrera GT. That’s why I’d take it over the 987. But both are beautiful cars.
Spyder!
Love both, I used to own an 06 987.1 S manuel, and now I'm just about to buy a 2014, 981S pdk. Those two are both beautiful!
Nice video. Both cars are amazing, but without driving both, the more important differences have been left out - such as steering feel (hydraulic vs. electronic), handling & ride quality. Many prefer the more 'connected' feel of the 987 (I plan to buy a 987.2 myself). Still wrestling with the PDK vs. manual dilemma (I live in traffic-clogged LA) . . . Thanks!
Scott Harrell - Hi there and welcome to the channel! I like your comments about the steering. This is covered in my most popular video in this Cayman playlist - th-cam.com/play/PLt1QQMoqCNVn4_XHikJlGyM3ZdgUCuFq2.html
The blue 987.2 is my car and it's an excellent choice sir👍🏼
Scott Harrell - You might also like this video where I really get into the driving characteristics of the 987.2. Check the description for the timecodes if you want to jump right to it.
th-cam.com/video/skJVwC9b_QY/w-d-xo.html
MAX REVS Thanks - I’ll be sure to watch the watch the entire Cayman playlist. Cheers!
Get the manual transmission. Better resale.
Hi Max. I watched this for the 2nd time. I like the rear, the slope of the back and the interior of the 981...but I like the front side bulges of the 987 much better. I wish they would make the headlights more roundish.
Both of them are going to be unique driving experiences in the future. Both are louder than the 911 of its generation, and the overall of the car responds faster and sportier. Weather it be the PDK , or the way the chassis responds. Aside from lacking a heavy rear weight, Caymans have inherited more Porsche DNA over the years.
I suspect 981 might even be a halo classic Cayman in the decades to come
Nice comments and I agree with you. Afterall, if I could have any Porsche it would be the Cayman GT4👍🏼. Not a 911.
987.2 FTW
Thank you for this vid! I watched it a couple of months back (and discovered the rest of your channel in the process!) when I was in the market and debating 987.2 vs 981. This really helped me decide. Went for the 981 in the end mainly on the interior aspect. It's my DD so I fancied the little extra "plushness" from the cabin. It's also the same sapphire blue too by coincidence. Thanks again!
Thanks for taking the time to leave a comment. I'm glad you enjoyed the video, and the other Cayman content available on this channel. Each time I watch this video, I think if I'm honest with myself I prefer the 981 lines. Both great cars, many argue the 987 is the original design, but the 981 looks SO GOOD! I am featuring the man who designed the Porsche Cayman (Pinky Lai) shortly on this channel, so make sure you catch that!
For me the main advantages of the 981 are the side air vents are a MUCH better shape (I don't think the video compared the side vents), the interior is improved and the three vents at the front have been re-shaped and I just prefer the look of them on the 981.
I've just committed to a 981 but it was more due to lower mileage and age as I want a daily driver.
Carl Marsden Congratulations on selecting your Cayman. They’re all great cars. Skip to 7 minutes into the video when the side vents are compared... you will see which one I prefer ;-)
Great video
981 is more "mature" and have moved along from 987.2 . That said both are brilliant to see.
I just got rid of my 987...it was super nice , 20 inch...but I'm either getting a newer 911 or 2014 + cayman. Really liked the mid engine smaller car.
God! In that colour I’d happily take either.
love the colour, both cars are GORGEOUS. I actually really like the interior in the 987 gen 2 tbh, everything where it needs to be, not over complicated or cluttered.
However, the interior in the 981 makes me think I'm in a Carrera GT, big plus point for me as I absolutely LOVE that car.
Do you know if there's noticeable difference in fuel economy between them ??
Yeah you’re right. Both cars are amazing... I came away with a lot more respect for the 981, as previously I would have always gone for the 987. The fact my favourite Cayman is the GT4 says it all.
As far as fuel economy is concerned I think they’re both the same, manual vs manual - 30mpg. The PDK might shift the figure by a couple of mpg.
This car always makes me pay extra and fill up with Shell V power ;-)
MAX REVS 30mpg is incredible for cars like this. It's hard to find a fault with the cayman tbh. As a sports car it does everything :)
My Gen 1 gets a little worse petrol mileage with its FI system at around 26.5-27 mpg in mostly moderate driving in the countryside. I think Porsche rate the DFI system in the Gen 2 at 30 mpg avg ??
Jimmy M 26/27 is still good dude, especially for a gen 1 with that power
I’ve owned both the 987.2 and 981. The 981 is a much better overall car IMHO. Better engine performance, handling and breaking.
the continuation of the rear spoiler line into the rear lights on the 981 doesn't make any sense whatsoever when the spoiler is up. none at all. and the loss of the faux topline is a mistake too. the 981 looks too much like the dated 911 roofline. IMO, the older one is the one to be preferred in all respects. ditto on the side vents. the upswept accent lines make sense as a continuation of the horizontal rocker line. the horizontal lines are an abrupt change coming from nowhere. the less said about the rear defuser on the 981 the better...
Blade Runner Thanks for sharing your thoughts. Now I see many more 718s on the roads, the 987 certainly stands out more against the 981s and 718s.
The reason for the pronounce bridge on the 987. Is the fact that they change the rake of the windshield and extended the window out to take away the Peeky part of the 987 roof to simply smooth the side appearance of the roofline.
This is for Jimmy M. The songs in this video are “King by Years & Years” and “Sunshine by TIEKS”. That is why YT has put ads on this particular video.. any income goes to the music artists. I don’t have enough subscribers to monetise my videos (need 1000+ subs)!
Never heard of eithir of them, but then I am a 62 year old Geezer. LOL Love the sounds though. Thanks for letting me know Max R.
Iv sold my 987.2 and missed it every fkn day. I'm about to buy again either 981 and 987 both options are tantalising but I think in the end I need to go for the 987.2 again. The front is sexier by far. To lose the hydraulic steering seems too much to pass up... the best part of it was feeling rhe road as you growl round a bend.
987.2 looks great. Only thing making it looked dated is the side ducts and wheels. Personally, I would take the 981. I love how the 987 is more raw. But for a daily commute, the 981 would be the one to choose if driving as a daily. Simply more refined. (I am also a Aqua Blue 987.2 owner myself).
FORGETFULFOOT Totally agree with you on the side ducts. They improved massively from the 981 onwards. I’m going to have to start driving for my new job, so let’s see how my 987.2 functions as a daily driver!!
the 2 cars have their own charm and beauty, the porsche should not be compared to each other.
Great side by side comparison 👍
Like you, I have a 987.2 (Boxster) which I feel is not only everything I could wish for from a sports car but also the pinnacle of the Cayman/Boxster models. Although I’ve always felt that the 981 is the better looking car (and in Cayman form one of the best looking cars Porsche has ever made), the 987 offers a more raw and “analogue” experience, with the electronic steering and handbrake of the 981 being the biggest drawbacks. But then came along the 718 GTS 4.0 .....
Clive Harper I’m always in 2 minds about which I prefer the looks of between 987 and 981. At the end of the day I think it’s the 981 for me. However I think the best looking Cayman is the 718 GT4. As for the engine noise, for me you cannot beat the 981 GT4 engine. Inside the cabin it just sounds so different to the 4.0 block in the new 718 GTS. The new 4.0 block is more engine noise, less exhaust from inside the cabin. The 981 GT4 had a different engine sound, and you could hear exhaust noise in the cabin. So for audio quality, the 981 GT4 is my best. Do I sound fussy?! Hahahahaha!!
Front of the 987 but rear of the 981 for me. Although the new gen caymans are so common on the roads where the 987 isnt
Interesting comment. Thanks! Wonder what that would look like? Might be too much of a contrast between the front and back though🤔
The 987.1 Ur - Cayman 2008 with the oval head lights has the best design of all the Caymans its analog it’s a design of the classic shape 911 G series ending 1989 and the base version 2.7 / 245 HP has the best engine sound as well and no issues either they can run over 300.000 km without any problems ! 😉
you right!
Nope not true. Shitty engines in Gen 1
Correct. 100% accurate.
Is there by any chance a video comparing the 2.7 with 3.4 ?
th-cam.com/video/z3Nn364MkfI/w-d-xo.html
th-cam.com/video/yv6Ur4f8Im0/w-d-xo.html
@@MAXREVS thanks for these links Max though have seen these prior. I’m digging for views on how the 2.7/2.9 differ from 3.4.
With the amount of changes and tinkering Porsche have done through the generations, it’s been frustrating to build up knowledge of what’s gone on in the past.
As it stands though the 981 does have a certain appeal to it, must say.
987 is best looking cayman imo
Hi and thanks for taking the time to comment. Until making this video, I totally thought the same as you. The 987 is the best looking. Getting up close to the 981 has made me at least understand why some people prefer it. It’s a pretty different take on the lines of the 987, and has many small changes which adds up to quite a lot. For me the 981 was out of budget, and I love my 987, so I’m totally happy.
absolutely right.
Not!
There's no accounting for taste.
Not sure why, but i love the side air intake of the 981 over the 987
This was my car which I handed to Tom to sell on my behalf. It was my 99th 981 Porsche.
clarky clarky Hi there. It’s hard to know if this is a wind-up... Based on your other comments, you have owned over 100 Porsche cars?
MAX REVS You can speak to Tom regarding the 981 Cayman S you reviewed or check out my profile on PHs under ‘Fizzbomb’....
MAX REVS Correction, 101 981 Boxster/Caymans
MAX REVS Plus I had 6 CRs all at the same time...
A good 987.2 costs almost as much as a equivalent 981 here in Germany (or even more).
The exterior looks more classic (reminiscent of the Carrera GT), but also the interior looks more timeless.
And because I bought a 987.2 today ;-)
sephra 91 Congratulations!! I am very happy about your purchase👍🏼
@@MAXREVS thank you very much :)
You’re making me think I just need the UK weather to improve a bit, and then go on more drives in my 987.2 and spend less time dreaming of the GT4 which I really cannot afford.
I bought a very low mileage 981 GTS..absolutely amazing car and exhaust sound and fell. I’ll probably keep it until I die but may add a 911 to the stable soon.
Kyle Martin WHOA!! Congratulations. That is an awesome choice, you have done well Sir. The GT4 is out of my reach, but I’ve always fancied the GTS for all the options you get. What colour if I may ask? I rarely see them up for sale in the UK.
Kyle Martin Also funny you mention the 911. I’ve seen the 992 and really like the design of it. Given you have the 981 which is a modern Cayman compared to the 987, which 911 are you thinking of? Older or newer model than your Cayman? I’m guessing older to get that old-school analogue feel ;-)
MAX REVS it’s black on black
MAX REVS I’m looking at a 911 09 4S
MAX REVS I bought the 981 GTS because I did not want the 4 banger... I almost bought a 718 S but bailed and went to the 981 GTS
They filled up the curves of 987 and they got a 981, i would like to have a combination of both to be honest, but i may buy both in the future starting with 987 :D
both fantastic cars and i have to say i like more 987 and 981 than the 718
MASSIVE DEAL!
Thanks
Tigerburningbright No worries, was fun making the video👍🏼
Where’s the handling comparison? That’s what everyone wants to know. Does the 981 electric steering ruin it compared to the 987.2?
Great video! I am also super biased as I own a 987.1 S, manual short shift, in Artic grey with Terracotta interior. What keeps me on the 987 side is the hydraulic steering and the more RAW feeling compared to the later generations. For a future classic to be used as a second car, those things make the difference in my opinion. But I am sure the 981 is the better overall car. More refined and modern. Just not as curvy and slightly more aggressive in styling. Both are awesome!
A Lag Great honest comments👍🏼. I know what you mean about the raw feeling. I used to think the 987 would acquire cherished sort after status, but looking at used prices they have softened over the last 1 year. Does that bother me? No! I get enjoyment every time I drive the car and that is priceless. You only live once. Interested to hear about your short shifter. I think it can be retro fitted. Never tried one so don't know what I'm missing!
@@MAXREVS Here in NZ the manual 987 S versions are slowly going up in price, while the automatics are still dropping. Makes sense though, manuals are more fun and in short supply (my guess would be less then 15% are manuals). About the factory short shift option: I love it but have never compared it to a standard one. BTW: I have a Carnewal GT exhaust system fitted, as my car did not have the sport exhaust. Love it!
A Lag Haha!! Was reading about that exhaust only yesterday... haven't heard it with my own ears. Just videos on the Net. Did you own your Cayman before you fitted the exhaust? Any quick comments of the difference you noticed? Slightly hesitant to deviate from factory spec atm.
@@MAXREVS The Carnewal GT exhaust is awesome. I imported one and had it fitted. My 2006 S is fully optioned (it was one of 3 dealer optioned showroom cars to come to NZ). Only option that was not available in the first year was the sport exhaust. And I found the standard one just too quiet.
The great thing about the Carnewal is that these are the standard Porsche mufflers with the rear cats removed and some of the inner tubing reworked. You can either swap your standard mufflers for a reworked one, or have your own set reworked. Just don't replace the exhaust tip and your car looks standard as before.
Gives a wonderful raw sound at cold starts, great pops and crackles when letting of the gas and a great Porsche howl above 5000rpm. They have a dealer in the US. Gives you a much cheaper option then refitting a OEM Porsche sport exhaust. You just do not have a switch, it's always on :)
I imported mine direct from Gert Carnewal in Belgium, paid for shipping and import taxes, still worth every dollar.
Thanks for that insight👍🏼
Mate seems like there’s bunch nice Porsche’s you have there !
Only one is mine😁
@@MAXREVS I gathered and having watched few of your vlogs now I know which one is yours 👍🏽
In all cases 981 is nicer, I wish Iwould had waited when I bought my 987.2 S
Easy decision: Get both!
Love the 987. The only thing I don't like is the hump where the shifter sits. Otherwise a beautiful car. And fast.
The 987 is certainly sleek and muscular looking. The 981 is definitely more modern looking but it also looks more bloated. In my opinion, the 982 combines the sleekness of the 987 with an enhanced modern design to the 981. Looks are subjective so I won’t say it’s the best looking car in fact, but it is in fact the best performing cayman to date. If only they could’ve fitted it with a 2.5L H6 turbo for the base car and a detuned 3.0L H6 turbo from the base 911 for the S variant.
Those aren't the radiators you see on the 981 from the front. Those are the AC consensers. Radiators are behind the condensers.
The 981 pulls me in more after you carefully review the entire automobile. I would like to see a rear window wiper "delete" option espeically as my second car it would not be driveden in the rain much.
Hi, pretty sure it’s an option when buying new. Like you, I prefer without, and I’m not just saying that because my 987.2 doesn’t have one!
I wouldn't mind seeing features of both together I more of turbo and gt2 fan
Cost aside, I could have stretched to a 981 - I bought a 987 as I’d read the steering rack is better + it’s a good excuse to get into a OPC and as if ones available although they are probably too old now 🤦♂️
Both great looking cars and naturally the 981 is more technologically advanced with a longer wheelbase and wider wheel stance ( I believe ), making for slightly improved handling. Not that the 987 does not handle superbly though. I have a 2006 Gen 1 and feel overall that the 987 has more classic styling than the 981, espc out back. The 987 interior is very nice, but the 981 is arguably better in design and quality. It seems to lack the white dials though from what i could see on the video ?? Is that the standard look on the 981 ?? Definitely love the white faces on the 987 3.4, and would miss those. .
Jimmy M Always good to hear from you Jimmy. Both cars are as they left the factory. I started the day thinking the 987 Gen 2 is the better looking car... ended the day thinking they’re both great looking cars. 987 wins out for me principally on affordability issues.
Thanks for all the efforts that you go to with producing these interesting and well produced videos. Your cheery manner is also very welcome. Going back to your video, your inclusion of the rotating images of both cars together was surprisingly helpful, and two things I really like with the 981`s styling updates are the door creases and crease just below the headlights. Nice like a sharp suit !! The wheel design is lovely too, and those big 20 inchers are peachy. Overall, the 981 is more aggressive looking than the 987 with more sharp edges, espc out back, whereas the 987 is the more curvy of the two with that timeless styling that will stand the test of time. Both are future classics in my book. Cheers.
Jimmy M Well picked-up point about the door creases. When driving home, I knew there was something I forgot to add. It was absolutely BOILING the day I made this video, and as I found out, standing on top of gravel just radiates the heat even more. My brain was frazzled at the end of filming! I also forgot to lift the rear boot lids and compare... ah well. Glad you enjoyed the rotating walk around both cars. It took some manual editing with the video timing to get both shots in sync. Was well worth the effort, if it proved useful for others.
Both cars are genius... just a comment on the 981 front fenders...
The creases running down the front fenders on the 981 are aesthetically bothersome to me. Why did Porsche do that? The bubble looking fenders are Porsche’s iconic signature look, and gorgeous to view from the windshield. The creases are even deeper on the 718. I doubt Porsche would dare to do this to the 911.
I prefer the front fender look of the 987 and 986 generations.
You made me smile with your opening line😃. Thanks for sharing your thoughts👍🏼
It’s almost like Porsche realized that the 987.1 front end looked too much like the 911…and deliberately made it uglier in subsequent generations. In my opinion Porsche got the styling right first time.
I've had Boxster 986, now I've got Cayman 987.1 in 2 years I'll change it for Cayman 981, So my vote is Max is 981
How has the ownership experience been for you with the 987.1? I have a 987.1 Boxster S that I've owned for roughly 2 years and am interested in your experience
Nearly all the changes are worse.
987's downward rear into the spoiler is beautiful and slender while 981's iteration just looks bulky like it drank too many beers.
The spoiler connecting into the lights may have been a good idea on paper but again, just loses personality and makes the vehicle more generic looking. Like an infinity coupe.
The smoothed out channels for the headlights just take one of the most staple visual queues of the porsche and minimizes it. They should be more voluptuous like the 987.
981 really just all around looks worse than the 987.
981. Just fractionally a bit nicer all round than the 987.2, I’d be ecstatic with either,
981 interior looks a little nicer and its tail light integration is cool. But on the whole, the 987.2 exterior styling is a clear winner. Then there's the hydraulic steering.
What year is your 987.2?
2009
MAX REVS how is your reliability going. I am planning on buying a 987.2 cayman s 2010.
After the work done on my car, I expect it to last. Things to look out for, be aware of:
1) Check front coolant hoses, can be done my turning the wheels fully each side, and checking the exposed coolant pipes. Check for any patches on the hoses. A 2010 car on original pipes could be due new ones. Weather/climate dependent and weather it was garaged or not
2) If it's a manual car, the shifter cables will be original and not the improved ones, i.e. prone to snapping
3) I think the V belt should have been changed 3 times since 2010, check the belt tensioner (you cannot do this yourself, have to remove the engine cover)
4) Transmission oil should have been changed
5) Check front radiators for stone chips, costly to repair
6) Get a rev range printout from the ECU
7) Stethoscope against the water pump to listen out for imbalances in the impeller
A well maintained Cayman should last for years. There are wear and tear items you cannot escape from, e.g. coolant hoses.
Don't mean to put you off, just got to approach eyes open. A dealer can only sell you a car, and check what is working / not working right now. Ensure you purchase with a warranty in case any of the above go wrong. GOOD LUCK and please keep me informed as to how it goes!
MAX REVS Will do!Thank you so much for your time.You earned a new subscriber
Thanks, just happy to help. This is a small niche channel just trying to help more people Enjoy Life & Cars To The Max!
My first Cayman is 987,2 2,9 manual. Nowadays i wanna to sell it but i really love it. There are more reason: i wanna try PDK, 3,4 engine, comin winter and maybe need money for my business investment. At spring i wanna purchase an other one but i hasitate which one....
718 has only 4 cylinder + turbo...i thing 6 cylinders boxter has better sound
981 has a great engine, nice interior, but i dont like rear of the car. (Looks like when your gf would allways eat fast food and put on weight. You would really love her and dont care about her shape...but you would remember what it looked like when you met her. This is my opinion when i compare with earlier Cayman)
987 is amazing, best looking car in the world. From behind as an ugly frog, i love that shapes. Engine, interior nice, but in 981 these are better. In addition 987 is almost 10 years old tech....i wish i could buy new or used (few years old) 987,2 :/
It would be best if Porsche makes 987,3 ;)
Thanks for your comment. This news came out a few days ago. Read the last paragraph. A new Cayman to be expected in 2020.
www.autoexpress.co.uk/porsche/cayman/105031/porsche-718-cayman-t-confirmed-for-production
I think that 981 Cayman had a blue leather interior.
Hi there and thanks for your comment. Both cars had blue leather interiors. The 981 seemed to have a slightly lighter shade of blue.
S Lee Yes, it did, I was the second owner of this car, originally supplied to a stock broker in London, then spent nearly all its life in Jersey until I bought it, it was my 99th 981 Porsche.
981 all day long, 987 old tech and not as refined. - Still a Porsche so superb to own..
Old for sure but not necessarily worse. The older 987's still had hydraulic steering, mechanical hand brakes and less computer assisted driving. This is especially true with the 718 with it's turbo 4. I believe these older 987's are closer to a purist car, somewhat akin to an older 911, which to me has evolved into more of a GT.
@@Madmanmarque saying that (above) ive just spent the Weekend in a Spyder and that really is superb. 987 platform.
981 looks semi exotic being inspired slightly from the 918. The 987.... looks alright from the front and just butt ugly from the back. Interior wise 981 hands down.
Hung Le Thanks for sharing your thoughts. There is no technical right or wrong, just personal tastes. So I’m glad we have a variety of comments on this video.
987 all day
Going for the 981, first i want to listen to spotify and dont want to go lower than 2014-15 on a car. Second if i would go lower i would proly had trouble driving in germany for the next years cause the emissions are #1 topic right now. In the next years people will not be able to drive in big citys anymore with these old cars
David Rakoczy Wow!! I never considered my 987.2 Cayman S to be SO OLD it would be banned from city centers... I know the 981 improved on emissions, but surely by not that much?
Why talk about the 4 cylinder engine when both cars are flat 6s?
Doug Pigot because the new 718 is crap
1st gen looks better
I prefer the 981. I like the side and the back more.
911v all the way!
MAX Revs - The extended leather option makes the 987 interior a lot better IMO. Was a must for me.
Wing mirrors door mounted??? Perhaps you mean door mirrors? Mirror mounted on wing = wing mirror. Mirror mounted on door = door mirror. Yes, lots of people call door mirrors 'wing mirrors', but then lots of people call whales 'fish', but I wouldn't expect an animal enthusiast to!
Thanks for maintaining high standards when others don't ;-)
The 981 is SO MUCH BETTER looking!
The extended air vents on the 981 do not always work. You have to change a setting to get air from the whole vent or just the chrome surrounded part at the front.
Flies2FLL The air vents on the 981 have a setting? Wow, that’s news to me. Wonder why?
The headlights of 718 and 987 looks much better than the 981.
AL HAMBRA JUHAR Interesting comment. If you have the time, could you please explain your thinking? I am interested...
@@MAXREVS I own the 981. Whenever I saw a 718 or 987, i felt jealous to see the sleek and sexy design of the headlights compare to the bulging headlights of the 981.
Appreciate the honesty. Thanks👍🏼
987.1 (first Gen Cayman) looked most like Porsche 911. Had to made subsequent versions uglier. And they did.
It's like trying to decide which one of my children is my favorite...
Raye Stanley 😃
981 all the way, can u compare a 981 and 718?
Tigerburningbright If I get the opportunity I’ll do it!! All depends on getting access to a 718, ideally in blue!
Sat in a 718 recently if you're interested?
th-cam.com/video/TItgSWhXWEM/w-d-xo.html
The 987 is definitely bluer than the 981.
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And both not as much fun to drive as the Cayman 987.1 base model.
Waiting for a driver's comparison, don't care about the trim
Hate the rear widow wiper on the new one
Leonardo Smeraglia I love it. I wish more cars were spec'ed with them
lol me too! i think that was a $500 option!
Yeah, until you need it!
Wipers are a cost option and were available on both, they look hideous. The airflow over the 987 keeps the rear windscreen dry, even in crazy amounts of rain. As long as you're moving at reasonable speeds, I have never missed the rear wiper on mine.