How "Doctor Sleep" Reconciles with King & Kubrick

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  • A video essay taking a look at Mike Flanagan's incredible "Doctor Sleep", and how it merges the separate visions of its predecessors' auteurs, Stephen King and Stanley Kubrick.
    00:00 Introduction
    01:07 Chapter One: The Caretaker
    04:57 Chapter Two: The Kubrick Question
    08:16 Chapter Three: Ka's a Wheel
    13:08 Chapter Four: Old Ghosts
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  • @dodgyd55
    @dodgyd55 ปีที่แล้ว +647

    People really slept on how good this movie was... i'll see myself out

    • @daniel_netzel
      @daniel_netzel  ปีที่แล้ว +30

      i see what you did there ;)

    • @justineharper3346
      @justineharper3346 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      Took me a second 😂

    • @m2kay42
      @m2kay42 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Filmed beautifully I just didn't like the depiction of superpowers element...sucking life force, teleporting and magic. Naw that was some Marvel shit. It took me out of the horror and into scifi. They could have filmed those less cgi

    • @SopranoPizzaJMFNJ
      @SopranoPizzaJMFNJ ปีที่แล้ว +12

      @@m2kay42 Not unfair but that was much closer to the book. Especially so when making the hotel the pervasive evil which was King’s intent. This was clearly changed by Kubrick to show Nicholson descending into madness. I like them both for different reasons but I think the ending of Dr. Sleep tied things up nicely.

    • @Dookieman1975
      @Dookieman1975 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      Just like the shining. Seems to be a cycle of them getting lukewarm responses just to be heralded as underrated classics years later.

  • @LemonCurry.
    @LemonCurry. ปีที่แล้ว +328

    As someone who read the books and saw the films, I had exactly the same feeling as you of reconciliation between the author's original intent and the most known film adaptation's visual meaning. Thank you for putting that interpretation to a video essay.

    • @daniel_netzel
      @daniel_netzel  ปีที่แล้ว +9

      Thank you for your comment!

    • @catherinejohnson8315
      @catherinejohnson8315 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      I feel the same way. You did such an amazing job, thank you. Subscribed

    • @Razorgeist
      @Razorgeist ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Damn straight.

    • @harryfuller3881
      @harryfuller3881 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      "Reconciliation" Perfect word. This film was able to tie the original novel and film together, then resolve both. Amazing.

  • @Sisren86
    @Sisren86 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    When I walked out the theater after Doctor Sleep my biggest takeaway was how amazed I was that it had somehow managed to be both a faithful adaptation and also a sequel to the Kubrik Shining. It blew my mind in the best way. True skill.

  • @Xenunnaki
    @Xenunnaki ปีที่แล้ว +11

    It's perhaps poetic that Doctor Sleep is currently being overlooked in much the same way The Shining was initially panned, in time the films' value will shine through

  • @XER606
    @XER606 ปีที่แล้ว +62

    I've always felt the fact Mike Flanagan seems to hold reverence for both King and Kubrick is what made him the perfect director to make a film that follow both of those artist's works, creating something that I've always felt is a perfect middle ground between the two
    This video really helps fleshing out those feelings I had when coming out of the theater after seeing this film

  • @zinka777
    @zinka777 ปีที่แล้ว +99

    Mike Flanagan is the man. I can't wait to see everything he puts out after Hill House, Bly Manor and Midnight Mass. Doctor sleep is a movie I will never regret missing out in cinema.

    • @daniel_netzel
      @daniel_netzel  ปีที่แล้ว +3

      saaaaaame

    • @Spongebrain97
      @Spongebrain97 ปีที่แล้ว

      When I had read online months before it came to theatres that Doctor Sleep was a sequel to The Shining, I immediately went out to buy the book and luckily finished it by the time I saw the movie

    • @youtubegarbage7876
      @youtubegarbage7876 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      will never regret missing out in cinema?

  • @cruzcflores
    @cruzcflores ปีที่แล้ว +119

    Absolutely agree with your analysis. This is exactly why I liked the movie so much. As for his “turning”, I saw it as more plot necessary as he had to vomit out all the Overlook ghosts to kill Rose and he had to distract the Hotel long enough for it to not notice the boiler. So while Jack was possessed for real, Danny allowed himself to be possessed to destroy the Overlook.

    • @daniel_netzel
      @daniel_netzel  ปีที่แล้ว +18

      Like I said it was a small complaint overall, but I just had this feeling every time that scene came up and through writing this essay it helped me process some of why I think I felt that way, but I like your interpretation! That's a cool way to view the scene.

    • @Kayjee17
      @Kayjee17 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      @@daniel_netzel I like Cruz Flores idea that Dan let the Overlook possess him to keep it distracted, but I don't think he would have risked Abra's safety like that. I think part of what pushed Dan into becoming an addict like his father was him using alcohol and other substances to numb his shine so the monsters from the Overlook couldn't get to him anymore. I imagine how much fear and pain it took to trap them in the boxes and I can understand why he didn't want to use his shine anymore; all it did was cause him trouble. Then he had to let them out to deal with Rose the Hat, and I imagine he wasn't planning on being in the Overlook when they were done with her, but she hurt him enough he didn't have time to get Abra and get out. I believe it was there, surrounded by the things he had feared for so long, and knowing those monsters were stronger after eating Rose the Hat, he faltered in his second test and the Overlook got him... mostly. That little bit of the boy Danny that he used to call Tony was still there because it was the part of Danny that tapped into his shine the strongest, and it was the part of himself that Dan called on for help already. That's why Abra was able to bring him back, even though they didn't have the family bond, and that's why he was able to resist the Overlook long enough for the boiler to explode and burn the place down.
      I liked the bit in the book where Jack was able to help Dan defeat Rose the Hat and live, but I think I like the movie ending better. Dan can still mentor Abra like Halloran did for him, but he was able to end the evil of the Overlook by cleansing it with fire, and hopefully that set everyone free.

  • @suse464
    @suse464 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    The best "wrong" ending ever brought to the screen.
    It fills in the emotional gaps of Kubrik's adaptation and reconciles two versions of the story that until then had always been irreconcilably opposed.
    I was in ecstasy when I came out of the cinema.
    This film is a stroke of genius on more than one level.

    • @daniel_netzel
      @daniel_netzel  10 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Couldn't agree more! Still waiting for the rest of the horror scene to catch on to that haha, still such an underrated movie

  • @scottvincent184
    @scottvincent184 ปีที่แล้ว +21

    'The world is a hungry place'
    Probably the best line ever spoken, it bridges the gap between King and Kubrick, my own opinion of course..

  • @reedkruger5031
    @reedkruger5031 ปีที่แล้ว +191

    This is an amazing video. I’ve been a huge fan of Mike Flanagan for years, and while I always really liked the Doctor Sleep movie, your video made me realize just how good it actually is. The only thing I’m surprised you didn’t bring up was Flanagan’s own struggle with addiction that I’m sure made Doctor Sleep feel so real to the Shining novel

    • @daniel_netzel
      @daniel_netzel  ปีที่แล้ว +13

      Thank you Reed! I definitely thought about going more into that, because I agree, his past struggles with alcohol really made him a good fit for this story, and these themes show up really beautifully in Midnight Mass as well.

  • @jerryschramm4399
    @jerryschramm4399 ปีที่แล้ว +33

    Greatly underrated. Watching "Shining" and "Sleep" back to back is almost as rewarding as the Godfather, and it's sequel. In "Sleep", Rebecca Ferguson as Rose the Hat was particularly effective and just flat out scary. She had such a strong presence, I thought she was probably around 5'10" to 6 feet tall. She's actually 5' 6".

  • @bigneon_glitter
    @bigneon_glitter ปีที่แล้ว +66

    Great video. WB backed _Doctor Sleep_ with a lackluster campaign & the film was indistinguishable from any throwaway King adaptation. I caught it with muted interest, expected nothing, and it completely blew me away.
    More than a great Action/Horror flick, _Doctor Sleep_ is a surprisingly thoughtful & intimate examination of trauma, abuse, depression, grief, & death.
    The _"Aliens"_ to _The Shining's_ _"Alien"_ - it's a special film, a (near) masterpiece, & was the Best Picture of 2019 (imo).
    _Gerald's Game_ is excellent too - a Flanagan produced _Dark Tower_ series would be aces.

    • @daniel_netzel
      @daniel_netzel  ปีที่แล้ว +5

      When I first saw the trailers my thought was "Really? Who the fuck thought making a Shining sequel was a good idea?" It just looked like a lazy sequel at best, or a total shitshow at worst, I never expected it to become one of my favorite horror films, certainly one of the best films of that year. And oh yeah, I absolutely loved Gerald's Game as well, Carla should have won an Oscar for her performance.

    • @trevnoceslaf7394
      @trevnoceslaf7394 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Rebecca Ferguson shoulda gotten a Supporting Actress nom for her role. She plays a truly scary villain bent on evil, yet SO seductive. Her performance reminded me of Hannibal Lecter and his towering presence, even when off-screen. The movie itself, arguably, shoulda been a Best Picture contender. It is a deep-thinking movie, despite the horror element.

    • @BrandonL337
      @BrandonL337 20 วันที่ผ่านมา

      One thing I actually really like is how much of it reminds me of the low-budget but charming made for tv King movies, so much of it takes place in perfectly ordinary campgrounds in the woods, or other places where (in those movies) you can tell that the location is chosen for a cheap shooting budget, but the True Knot has a reason to be in these isolated places, and it seems to be their traditional stomping ground, given the caravan of RV's they travel in.

  • @HolliGenett
    @HolliGenett ปีที่แล้ว +22

    Everything you've said in this essay. But also! There's no denial that seeing King likes this adaptation after his expectations weren't met with Kubrick's film, really warms my heart. I'm happy to see him happy. :)

    • @daniel_netzel
      @daniel_netzel  ปีที่แล้ว +3

      me too! He really seemed to love the film and I love that for him

  • @hanonondricek411
    @hanonondricek411 ปีที่แล้ว +115

    I agree that the Overlook possessing adult Danny seems wrong, but I'm curious if that was a concession to get the scene from the original book where Danny brings Jack back temporarily making him "drop the mask" and allow his son to go free and take out the hotel. When I saw the scene with Danny and Abra in Doctor Sleep I knew immediately it was straight from The Shining novel with the roles shifted.

    • @BellaSwan18
      @BellaSwan18 ปีที่แล้ว +16

      Yeah- it felt like the climax of the film was also trying to reconcile what was dropped from the original adaptation

    • @blank3arth
      @blank3arth ปีที่แล้ว +17

      I don't think it was wrong. The hotel could never gain full possession over Danny like it could his father. I think that's why only one of his eyes goes cloudy.

    • @Dookieman1975
      @Dookieman1975 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      Some reason I actually like it. The overlook fckn with him with Jack first, then waiting for Danny to do kill Rose, and finish what it started. And Danny kills it with one last insult, he still won. He went through the bs his dad went through and won. He breaks the cycle of violence with the true knot, the hotel, and the Torrence lineage. 3 familial generations of bs and 3 cycles of endless violence ended with and because of him. And despite everything that happened he dies peacefully, content, and with closure. more alive in death than he felt in life. But I do like that he lives in the book, another insult. “I won, I survived, and I beat you”

    • @Tyler_W
      @Tyler_W ปีที่แล้ว +6

      I didn't like the idea that Danny could still be possessed, but I think the way it ended redeemed that choice. It implied that the simple choice of denying his addiction, even at that pivotal moment, didn't erase his inner darkness which is frankly realistic, but at the same time, the fact he did deny his addiction is what empowered him to overcome his inner demons to save Abra. The possession and taking back control in a way felt like a mirror image of the struggle of Danny's life.

    • @dawngrrrl
      @dawngrrrl ปีที่แล้ว +2

      That's why I actually liked the partial possession. It was partial because he refused the drink unlike his father, and it allowed them to somehow include that dropped moment from Kubrick's adaptation.

  • @nickasaro8789
    @nickasaro8789 ปีที่แล้ว +20

    I was so surprised by how good this movie was. The Shining is one of my favorite movies of all time and I went in expecting an inferior follow up to Kubrick but as someone with trauma who’s worked very hard at overcoming it despite resorting to my own bad coping mechanisms, it really hit home for me and even made me cry.

    • @wendaltvedt4673
      @wendaltvedt4673 ปีที่แล้ว

      Dr Sleep was a total turd. An insult to Kubrick's masterpiece.

  • @fluffcake
    @fluffcake ปีที่แล้ว +8

    The shining is a certified hood classic in my eyes. It is genuinely that amazing and God help me, Doctor Sleep is criminally overlooked. It's both an amazing adaptation and a beautiful tribute to Kubrick's version of the film. Great movie.

    • @mr.s845
      @mr.s845 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      overlooked lol

  • @thefilmrookie3099
    @thefilmrookie3099 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    I just love that Stephen King can also have some closure on Stanley Kubrick’s movie too. He genuinely looked happy with the legacy the movies will have and how they represented his novels.

  • @evilincoln23
    @evilincoln23 ปีที่แล้ว +15

    I remember hearing the story that Kubrick had seen Eraserhead before he made the shining and the he was so enamored with it, he had a screening for the cast and crew before they started shooting. I don’t know how true that story is, but it does make me wonder how it influenced his approach to king’s story.

    • @daniel_netzel
      @daniel_netzel  ปีที่แล้ว +4

      I've read that Eraserhead became Kubrick's favorite film after watching it, and I know for certain that it influenced him when directing The Shining. I've also seen mention that The Exorcist and Rosemary's Baby were huge influences for him too.

  • @s39596
    @s39596 ปีที่แล้ว +25

    Genuinely such a good movie, I’m so glad you took the time to talk about it!

    • @daniel_netzel
      @daniel_netzel  ปีที่แล้ว

      One of my favorites from one of my favorites. Thinking about doing a video on Midnight Mass too, because that's definitely the top spot of Flanagan's work for me.

  • @chewiebacca5841
    @chewiebacca5841 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Oh! I adore Steve's face. "It was great to go back to the Overlook." I think I'm misting up.

  • @injeraenjoyer4570
    @injeraenjoyer4570 ปีที่แล้ว +41

    Thanks for the high quality analysis as always. I liked when you brought up stuff from Dark Tower. Doctor Sleep is honestly such a unique and great movie, and I love Flanagan's work in general, so it's always good to see a review of it.

    • @daniel_netzel
      @daniel_netzel  ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Thank you for your kind words! Flanagan just keeps blowing me away with everything he does, and Doctor Sleep was such a welcome delight for me as a fan of King and Kubrick, and horror in general. Also highly recommend Gerald's Game if you haven't seen it!

    • @mikelomez9313
      @mikelomez9313 ปีที่แล้ว

      Hey is that your picture with the Nas album cover in the background? That's so cool. I wanna do that too lol

    • @mikelomez9313
      @mikelomez9313 ปีที่แล้ว

      And yeah totally agree with your take on Flanagan. It's about time that the horror genre doesn't always just use jump scares and gore to scare people. I've been waiting for films that scare you with a story instead. So much better!

    • @mikelomez9313
      @mikelomez9313 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@daniel_netzel Just discovered your channel and it's fantastic! I really appreciate someone who puts work into their projects as I do the same every day.

  • @surfagirl
    @surfagirl ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I watched doctor sleep on a flight a few months after it came out and I was very pleasantly surprised. I think Mike Flanagan is definitely a force to be reckoned with in the horror Chandra because his work isn't just about the scary parts but also the humanity Inside all of us. To me every single one of his pieces have been a home run

  • @mysteryneophyte
    @mysteryneophyte ปีที่แล้ว +6

    That really was a good film and Ewan McGregor was awesome in his role in this movie.

  • @josebro352
    @josebro352 ปีที่แล้ว +14

    Doctor Sleep was an amazing film and a perfect sequel. Flanagan really knows his stuff. The one thing that could have made it better in my opinion would've been a Jack Nicholson cameo. Flanagan approached Nicholson about the film but he was turned down as Jack was adamant about his retirement.

    • @tonoornottono
      @tonoornottono ปีที่แล้ว +8

      i think the lookalike actor is very uncanny and unnerving. like dan doesn’t quite remember what his dad looked like.

    • @josebro352
      @josebro352 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@tonoornottono Good point. That actor is Henry Thomas. Elliot from E.T. all grown up. Never would've imagined him one day playing Jack Torrance. LOL. Also I loved how Flanagan kept the continuity from the original with Shelley Duvall's character. Alex Essoe did an amazing job and looked very much like her. I remember two times when I felt actual chills of nostalgia run through my body. One was the first time I saw The Force Awakens trailer with Harrison Ford and the other one was when I saw the Doctor Sleep trailer for the first time. The shot of the Overlook with the Symphony Fantastique score in the background gave me serious chills. Such nostalgia.

  • @QueenBoadicea
    @QueenBoadicea ปีที่แล้ว +1

    15:21 Thomas Lerooy's sculpture "You Were on My Mind" is such a chilling artwork and perfectly encapsulates the alcoholic's struggle. Thank you for including it.

  • @nicolas228
    @nicolas228 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Man, this is amazing. The in-depth knowledge of king’s work and the parallelism with the film is beautifully crafted. Thank you for this

    • @daniel_netzel
      @daniel_netzel  ปีที่แล้ว

      Thank you for the kind words Nicolas!

  • @derkcast620
    @derkcast620 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    I watch the shining every year at Halloween. Your analysis really spoke to me. Well done!

  • @leighblack7944
    @leighblack7944 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I love Mike Flanagan and the way he sees a story. It's never quite what I think is going to happen and I am always pleasantly surprised.

  • @BlainkSaint
    @BlainkSaint ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Love the subject matter of the video but I'm even more blown away by the editing and atmosphere! This is so well put together!

    • @daniel_netzel
      @daniel_netzel  ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I really appreciate that! It's something I try to do for every video :)

    • @BlainkSaint
      @BlainkSaint ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@daniel_netzel This is the first of your videos I've watched but I subbed and i'll be sure to check out more!

  • @larrylobster78
    @larrylobster78 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    Such a wonderfully thought out and well put video essay. Seriously couldn't have worded it better; I saw Doctor Sleep opening weekend and immediately gave it my praise and hold it in such high regard

    • @daniel_netzel
      @daniel_netzel  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Thanks so much for watching! I'm glad you enjoyed it.

  • @jinxshadow5218
    @jinxshadow5218 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    The chapter transitions in this video are gorgeous.

  • @brainglow_lightbright
    @brainglow_lightbright ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Yeah this movie was well beyond what I expected. Great film.

  • @sifatshams1113
    @sifatshams1113 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    The Dark Half (1993). Not only is it an insanely underrated King adaptation, but also an insanely underrated George A. Romero horror film. Check it out, people.

  • @melindawolfUS
    @melindawolfUS ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I'm surprised Dr. Sleep didn't do better, it disturbed and moved me in a way most horror films don't. And then it stuck with me for a long time. I agree with your points here! I thought it was a truly great sequel by enriching the first instead of betraying it. Thanks for articulating this!

  • @MarxistMaverick
    @MarxistMaverick ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Finally got around to seeing the video. I discovered Flanagan's work with Hill House, been hooked on his work since. Great video man

  • @isaiahcarter1967
    @isaiahcarter1967 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Big props to the editing on this video I know it took forever it looks great though 🙌 and I love doctor sleep I feel like it flew under the radar for no reason

    • @daniel_netzel
      @daniel_netzel  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Thank you Isaiah! I appreciate that :) Hopefully with more Flanagan fans every year, eventually it'll get the love it deserves

  • @El-Chad
    @El-Chad ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Kubrick took kings word and turned it into pure genius nightmarish excellence. Nearly everything he touched in cinema would turn to gold, with that Said Mike did a good job.

  • @TomVCunningham
    @TomVCunningham ปีที่แล้ว +4

    For me, Doctor Sleep is the best thing Flanagan has done.

  • @mountpennart
    @mountpennart ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I LOVED Dr. Sleep so so much. It brought me to tears. And I think your analysis knocked it out of the park. I’m eager to visit your back catalogue of videos. You earned my subscription!!

  • @chrisdavies6129
    @chrisdavies6129 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    This video was incredibly well done and I learned a ton of new things about Mike Flanagan. Also a great perspective on Doctor Sleep. Thank you for this!

  • @Dark.Shingo
    @Dark.Shingo ปีที่แล้ว

    Love this. Your approach, the tone, the pace, everything is perfect and take us to understand the concepts and the connections. I saw the movie and loved it, but seeing your video made me understand it more in deep. Kudos for such a superb work!

  • @krb4179
    @krb4179 ปีที่แล้ว

    I love these types of break downs. THank you and great vid!

  • @ryanmorris3114
    @ryanmorris3114 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Dude great video and analysis, very well-chosen words! And I should know, I've spent WAY too long consuming video essays on TH-cam, glad the algorithm worked this time

    • @daniel_netzel
      @daniel_netzel  ปีที่แล้ว

      Thank you Ryan! I'm glad the algorithm worked out too :D

  • @user-kv4pi6wh2l
    @user-kv4pi6wh2l 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    This is an incredibly well edited video. Excellent work! Mike Flanagan is super underrated and needs to be brought to the spotlight as an iconic horror director. Super well done!

  • @tarakennedy707
    @tarakennedy707 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I need to go back and re-watch this. Saw it in theaters when it first came out and you just reminded me of how underrated this movie is.

  • @xmtryanx
    @xmtryanx ปีที่แล้ว +2

    What a fantastic review. Thank you.

  • @tjjordan4207
    @tjjordan4207 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    It's nice to hear that Steven King managed to find peace with Stanley Kubrick's version.

  • @TheAlibobwa
    @TheAlibobwa ปีที่แล้ว

    Thank you so much for writing this

  • @crickcrackcricketycrack5501
    @crickcrackcricketycrack5501 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I was very sceptical of this film being a sequel and adaptation of a book that collided with each other. As you said in the video, Mike somehow pulled it off very well. I honestly believe although the film was not a huge hit or received that well with critics, just like Kubrick's, this film will stand the test of time and be looked back on fondly and appreciated for many years to come.

  • @TheFree2last1
    @TheFree2last1 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    An amazing video, and finally someone who approaches it with some empathy and value.
    I love, hell I adore Doctor Sleep also the Shinning and both are indeed so incredible well done.
    Glad to see someone also sees it this way and understands the concepts made in both movies and the books.

    • @daniel_netzel
      @daniel_netzel  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Thank you! That's something I aspire to with every video :)

  • @jeffg2189
    @jeffg2189 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Fantastic analysis! I love the book and film adaptations of The Shining and Doctor Sleep, and Flanagan did an incredible job bridging the gap between the source material of both novels and Kubrick's The Shining.

  • @fenwar9060
    @fenwar9060 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    This is so well done.👏👏👏👏

  • @Saintletha
    @Saintletha ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Awesome job. Thank you so much for this!

  • @Nodim1er
    @Nodim1er ปีที่แล้ว +1

    You did an amazing work. It was a recommendation from youtube's algorithm that brought me here, and I'll make sure to discover the rest of your body of work.
    Love your vision.

    • @daniel_netzel
      @daniel_netzel  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Thanks so much for saying so! I hope you enjoy some of the other videos too :)

  • @rowboatlaptop
    @rowboatlaptop ปีที่แล้ว

    Great work. Anything that hastens along this film’s inevitable critical and popular reassessment is a good thing. Thank you.

  • @filmpositive6601
    @filmpositive6601 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    What an excellent examination of an amazing movie! I am grateful for your efforts to bring a greater understanding to Doctor Sleep. I too am a great admirer of Flanagan! His work is so unbelievably satisfying. I will never forget my experience watching Doctor Sleep in theater, because it (unintentionally) coincided with my 3 year sobriety date. It was an especially affirming viewing for me that I could not have put into better words than you have with this essay. Thank you!

    • @daniel_netzel
      @daniel_netzel  ปีที่แล้ว

      Thank you so much for your thoughtful comment! I still kick myself for not catching it in theaters lol

  • @Mahoney1
    @Mahoney1 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Excellent analysis! Flanagan is a master storyteller and film maker. I already enjoy Doctor Sleep, but now I can rewatch it with a new perspective.

  • @meimei8718
    @meimei8718 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great video. Thank you for making it.

    • @daniel_netzel
      @daniel_netzel  ปีที่แล้ว

      My pleasure! Thanks for watching!

  • @avancons1
    @avancons1 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I'm glad you're back

  • @soakedbearrd
    @soakedbearrd 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    This movie is really layered with a lot of occult meanings, and parallels. Well worth a watch. Great expose, lots of insights in your video, bravo, subscribed.

  • @MJubecki1984
    @MJubecki1984 ปีที่แล้ว

    Could not agree more. great essay man.

  • @djsalad7891
    @djsalad7891 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    The editing is amazing

    • @daniel_netzel
      @daniel_netzel  ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Thank you, it took a fair bit of time lol

    • @editating_2614
      @editating_2614 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@daniel_netzel how do you do those transitions please tell me. Like the Carrie to IT transition with the balloon. I'm amazed

  • @karlastraight2458
    @karlastraight2458 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Brilliant video!

  • @chrish9698
    @chrish9698 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Very well said and excellent video! This truly is one of favourite horror films and I do my part to recommend it whenever given the chance! 😁

  • @anab.8204
    @anab.8204 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Wonderful analysis!

  • @ennuiblue4295
    @ennuiblue4295 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Good to see you, hope you have a great Halloween 🎃

    • @daniel_netzel
      @daniel_netzel  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      You as well! Happy Halloween :)

  • @dawngrrrl
    @dawngrrrl ปีที่แล้ว

    Fantastic essay! Doctor Sleep deserves more analysis like this.

  • @negasilver63x
    @negasilver63x ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Great video!

  • @VenusianLissette
    @VenusianLissette ปีที่แล้ว

    this is excellent.
    omg thank you sm.

  • @josueamericanistarv
    @josueamericanistarv ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I also loved this movie. It's sad that critics and audiences didn't see its true value. Amazing essay! Tahnk you.

  • @PlayNiceFolks
    @PlayNiceFolks ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Michael Flanagan IS the current film master of horror. Midnight Mass is probably the greatest horror mini series of all time.

    • @daniel_netzel
      @daniel_netzel  ปีที่แล้ว

      Midnight Mass is probably my favorite mini series of any genre.

  • @leoinsf
    @leoinsf ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Kubrick does not need to be apologetic about changing King's scenario in "The Shining."
    Frankly speaking, there is a great difference between the "universe" of the book and the "universe" of the film.
    Kubrick knew this and used King's book as a "springboard."
    What he created is a scenario where the viewer puts himself into "the life of the scenario."
    I feel a part of the scenario of "The Shining" and after 40 viewings, I still return to see it every year.
    King's book is great, but maybe in a few years, I might return to reread it!

  • @jooaquin
    @jooaquin 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Great essay! I loved the film I think is on a short list of amazing secuels to a great film and I enoyed it a lot!

  • @vanyadolly
    @vanyadolly ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Like King I was disappointed with how much character development Kubric took out of the Shining, but Doctor Sleep somehow managed to reconcile both versions of the story perfectly. And you can't deny that the hotel still standing makes for a more climactic ending to the sequel.

  • @santiagorojaspiaggio
    @santiagorojaspiaggio 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    This movie felt so much into the Kingverse... and that's really something to appreciate. There's a lot of waste in films which are not related to this.
    Great video!

  • @FirstnameLastname-qc3xx
    @FirstnameLastname-qc3xx ปีที่แล้ว

    Just discovered your channel and man this video was awesome! Well done. I too loved this film. Mike did a hell of a job with it. I think it takes the cake on best sequel ish horror movie of late. Nothing better than a film that takes it’s time to build the characters and the world. It almost felt like an old movie brought up to todays visual standards. The actors were phenomenal too. Overall besides the ending act I loved every minute. I’m still shocked it was so overlooked (pun intended) when it came out.

  • @MSVlogSupport
    @MSVlogSupport ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Thank you for your great analysis,it made me feel a little better about Kubrick and his version of The Shining. Just not a fan but I absolutely love Doctor Sleep, not really sure why but it stays with me. Have seen it multiple times. I'm also a fan of Flannigan's and agree that he is adding something new to the horror film/show. Very well done!

  • @BruceWayne-wx7tx
    @BruceWayne-wx7tx 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Great Video!!!!

  • @LavenderJack540
    @LavenderJack540 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Excellent, man.
    Excellent.
    Lavender Jack...Swooping On Down.

  • @DonovanWert
    @DonovanWert ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Awesome 😎 thanks brother!!🙏

  • @ethanhughes7462
    @ethanhughes7462 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Awesome vid as always man. Love Flanagans work so much :)

    • @daniel_netzel
      @daniel_netzel  ปีที่แล้ว

      Thanks Ethan! Oh man me too, he's one of the best right now.

  • @pegacorn13
    @pegacorn13 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Having just watched the Shining (in the theater!) for probably the 50th time in my life, this makes me want to revisit Doctor Sleep. I have to keep reminding myself of the whole pretense you are basing this on: that Doctor Sleep is indeed a reconciliation between between King and Kubrick because in Kubrick's version, there is very little (if any) hint that there is a "light side" to Jack. He's essentially pure, unadulterated "evil" in The Shining. It's not that the hotel or the alcohol make him do anything. He has "always been there". He has physically and emotionally abused his family and he's sexually abused Danny long before The Overlook comes into play. Even when he's sober, it's very clear that he's frankly a total monster who consistently demeans his family and keeps them in a constant state of fear and walking on eggshells. I can't remember if Doctor Sleep acknowledges the sexual abuse perpetrated on Dan, although it defiantly parallels the actions of The True Knot and child sexual abuse. I also can't remember but I'm pretty sure that although Danny takes a dive into alcohol abuse and violence, he doesn't veer anywhere near towards becoming a child molester. I think Flanagan and Kubrick tackle some of the same themes but they are very different in their approaches. Kubrick also doesn't touch on Jack's childhood (I don't think it really needs to) whereas Flanagan humanizes Jack. That's just how he rolls. All of Flanagan's films are about trauma and reconciliation and hence lies the perfection of him being chosen to create Doctor Sleep: not only for the reconciliation in the film, but for the reconciliation between King and Kubrick. I think it's very true that to create effective horror, you have create a story that deeply explores characters and depicts love to get the audience invested in the first place. Somehow Kubrick created possibly the best horror film ever made without doing much of this at all. Of course there is the love between Wendy and Danny that we are given glimpses of (and that ultimately wins in the end) but for the majority of The Shining, Wendy fails to keep Danny safe and she certainly can't keep herself safe ( as is true in most domestic abuse scenarios). In any case, great analysis! I'm going to watch Doctor Sleep tonight!

  • @ihatecorpsehusband7147
    @ihatecorpsehusband7147 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I loved this movie a lot. I was really sad when I found out many weren’t fond of it

  • @sebastiaanvanagteren1112
    @sebastiaanvanagteren1112 ปีที่แล้ว

    Wow - thank you for your wonderfull analisis, especially the father son redemption part. I also loved Dr Sleep and did not understand why it did not get better rep.

  • @Kagomai15
    @Kagomai15 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I've been following Flanagan's directorial journey since before Hill House so when I found out he was the director I went from "curious" to "actually excited"

  • @whlewis9164
    @whlewis9164 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Can only hope that down the road this film will get its due.

  • @chewiebacca5841
    @chewiebacca5841 ปีที่แล้ว

    Ha! Nice work with the Trainspotting cuts for Danny's flashback!

  • @Razorgeist
    @Razorgeist วันที่ผ่านมา

    You pretty much summed up my feelings on this movie

  • @michaelstewart1838
    @michaelstewart1838 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    My friend, I don't what to say, you have... Expressed this Film in a way that is, Unparalleled and quite Beautiful. Im stunned, You are a true Craftsman. I know it all too well. I will revisit this and dig myself out. Thank you. I will Subscribe, and all the things, you are cut from a different Cloth. God Bless You 🙏.

  • @DapperManDan
    @DapperManDan ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I know Flanagan's dream King adaptation is The Dark Tower series... I honestly think if he and Frank Darabont worked together they could do a bang up job of adapting that series for a cinematic streaming series... as they are two of the best directors to have adapted Kings work.

    • @daniel_netzel
      @daniel_netzel  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      And let's be real, Frank Darabont already knows how to do a series, he was the reason The Walking Dead was ever worth watching, I still can't fathom why they pushed him out of the show. But the two of them together working on The Dark Tower would be solid fucking gold.

  • @gregoryrogalsky6937
    @gregoryrogalsky6937 ปีที่แล้ว

    Nice analysis.

  • @psalm91.777
    @psalm91.777 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Now I have to see this, thank you I didn't know anything about it

  • @SunnyE_Mechwarrior
    @SunnyE_Mechwarrior ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I think you hit the nail right on the head...Stanley Kubrick's Shining was a master piece that haunting and still thought provoking. But the ending definitely lacked that usually ending of Stephen King, and left so many questions on what will happen to Danny and Wendy... Yet Flanagan's Dr Sleep gave me the chills of the Overlook Hotel and some of the visions and we saw the cycle finally broken with violence and alcoholism with Danny. It had a redemption and it wrapped up Dr Sleep and the original Shining... It really could have been a disaster or shlock but he weaved the stories together and came with an ending that emotional cathartic release. I am sure Kubrick would have hated it, but it's not a Kubrick film, it's a Flanagan film and it's good in my books

  • @GrayNeko
    @GrayNeko 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I predict that this film will take it's place next to 'The Shining' as one of the all-time great horror films of all time. Horror is not a setting, horror is not an event, horror is not a jump scare. Horrror is about the shitty parts of us we're trying to deal with. To quote Ron D. Moore, 'It's the characters, stupid!'

  • @JMD501
    @JMD501 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Ka's a wheel, and having The Dark Tower at the bottom of the adaptation graph, I think I found another fan of the tower. Do ya ken it.

    • @daniel_netzel
      @daniel_netzel  ปีที่แล้ว

      Shamefully I never properly read all of it, but man it's something I need to get back to get through fully.

    • @JMD501
      @JMD501 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@daniel_netzel ya if you want to check it out the audio books are really well done, I have read it once and listened to it twice on my commute. Totally worth the time.

    • @robirvine6970
      @robirvine6970 ปีที่แล้ว

      Don't bother. Dark tower is an over indulgent obsession that ends very weakly and lowers the impact of EVERY book it touches.

    • @Kazza_8240
      @Kazza_8240 ปีที่แล้ว

      Long days and pleasant nights 🌹

    • @JMD501
      @JMD501 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@Kazza_8240 Thankee Sai

  • @nettewilson5926
    @nettewilson5926 ปีที่แล้ว

    Loved this insightful analysis and this movie! And I love that Stephen King loved it too!

  • @81Justathought
    @81Justathought ปีที่แล้ว

    i loved this movie, its still on my pvr and has been for about 2 years now

  • @williamhaas9090
    @williamhaas9090 ปีที่แล้ว

    This video deserves a sub

  • @mckid2683
    @mckid2683 ปีที่แล้ว

    I love the movies! Both of em! I often watch "The Shining" followed by "Doctor Sleep" as I often like to watch any of the movies we own that have any number of sequels in them in succession

  • @TheAlpha1321
    @TheAlpha1321 ปีที่แล้ว

    I absolutely love it