BAD 4 BLOOD
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 7 ส.ค. 2021
- Thanks to Warner Bros./Turtle Rock Studios for giving me the keys for Back 4 Blood. They were provided for free.
It's a shame, I was actually pretty excited for this but there's so many small issues that combine with the core gameplay loop being really unsatisfying result in a boring slog of game. There's also just a lot of shockingly low quality moments for a full price AAA title. Thankfully, there's nothing stopping us from just booting up Left 4 Dead 2 again. Great game.
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He didn't notice because he played with a group, but the bots are horrible. They can run out of ammo and when they do, they won't even try to defend themselves. I watched them sit there and take a beating while staring off into space.
They stare at walls I have so many screen shots haha
They actually make games harder because they shoot you in the back, block shots and shoot the gas tanks.
Bots also can't get you free if you get stuck from a hocker. They'll just stand around you and do nothing, and will ALL die.
That's surprising considering this game was made by the people who also made Left 4 Dead, and the bot ai in that game was very competent.
There was no zombie and bot deicided to shot a gas tank near me, set me on fire and let me died.
I love how the entire gun violently vibrates and recoils, and the sight just stays still
We love to see it
I tink it is becouse of the charcter shouldering it
@@komessandtomikcoll2154 it's because promgraming dimficult
That's how the sights in 99% of shooters work, they just hide it better. Same thing with the bullets coming out of your eyeballs.
@@hornmonk3zit that's... The point of game development. In normal games sight reticle moves with the sight, like it should. Here they just basically drew a cross with a sharpie in the center of the screen and called it a day
I remember reading a thread where basically someone brought up that a lot of decisions in this game were things that Valve shot down back when L4D was still in development. Things like specific survivor abilities that were unbalanced, inconsistent level difficulty, etc.
Devs be like: "hey what if I make a game with all the bad ideas?"
@@jorgen7702 more like the CEO says “go make shit so that I can get some money”
Atleast one special infected looks like it, the "snitcher" looks like the cut "screamer" in L4D2
I can definitely see that happening. Valve's development philosophy seems to be "if you can put in one thing that really works or ten that are kinda cool, you put the one thing in". Hell, there supposedly were two fully playable TF2s that we never got because Valve was not quite satisfied with them.
and then L4D3 was gonna include a class system and be open-world where you received quests from NPCs.
Mark my words, when this game officially comes out L4D2 concurrent players will peak
Rimmy, make your mod list public if you do a L4D2 run with the lads.
bet
I bet 😂
Yup, nothing will over throw the king. as good as this looks it feels like the rest of AAA crap this gen is pooping out
@@BarrickMacready the sad thing is there so focused on evolving the l4d formula they for got to ask if it really needed evolving
If you need to depopulate an entire aviary to kill that zombie, you do what you gotta do.
If a few birds have to die, so be it. Its not like they’re going to stop it.
It's a self defense situation
Pidgeon Hunter Mission 2.0
LOL I love how at the ending Rimmy said "don't buy this game" and the shop NPC is like "you made the right choice". FUCKING PERFECT.
Even the NPCs are aware of how shit the game is.
@@YetAnotherInv Even the NPC don't wanna be a part of this game.
It's just baffling that with a different publisher, 7 years later, they're making all the same financial mistakes with this game that they did with Evolve to tank it at launch. Full AAA price for a multiplayer only, non-trip-a quality game as the CHEAPEST version available at launch, and throwing in the trending style of grind and monetization right from the get go. They can't lay the blame all at the publisher's feet like they did with Evolve a second time, even for a greasy publisher like WB. A reminder too that neither Left 4 Dead nor Left 4 Dead 2 were full-priced games when they released.
See, I liked Evolve, played the shit outta the BETA... And then it went live and... It was exactly the same and I had burnt myself out on it.
@@Yodakirata I loved evolve it's a shame that it flopped
It's not "Multiplayer only" they just grayed out the option for private lobbies for the beta since they wanted to test filled lobbies. Now, if you wanted to say that "Multiplayer only for the beta" was a stupid concept since they don't get to fine tune the bots I'm on board
@@Angelwithashotgun115 A multiplayer only game means it has no content designed to be played alone. Playing multiplayer campaigns with bots as dumber, mandatory replacements for players doesn't make it a singleplayer game. Also, bots were available for the beta and as mentioned by others, were especially dumb and unhelpful, unable to even pick up ammo for their limited-ammo guns.
@@Yodakirata I played Evole to death when it came out. And not multiplayer mind you, just the same single player campaign over and over. It had its flaws but it was a fun game with a original concept, while Back 4 Blood seems to just do Left 4 Dead 2 but worse
“I can’t wait for back 4 blood to be ported to left 4 dead 2.” Some dude on the b4b trailer
@Aliciel De Boisnoir I'm sure Source modders will put more thought and care in tweaking the designs, so they are fun to play in L4D2. Unlike the devs of B4B.
@@samzilla567 Oh they will. Give them time.
B4B: Before the collapse, I’d read a substantial amount of material that supported the supposition that the military-industrial complex was complicit in the outbreak.
L4D: I hate stairs.
L4D2 maybe the helicopter maybe its made of chocolate
L4D : hey francis, what about you took that mustache and little vest of yours and have yourself a parade?
Good thing I’m indestructible
You know who runs around filling up things with gas? - *Idiots* .
Somehow, Francis's "I hate..." lines have more personality than that singular "I've read" line.
To be fair with the big ogre monster it doesn't despawn. It stops following you until you get to the next area where it rips stuff open to fight.
More specifically, it burrows back into the ground after taking a certain amount of damage... If you are co-ordinated enough you can kill it first time.
@@Yodakirata The one thing that really irked me about it burrowing is that it doesn't even leave disturbed dirt behind. It looks like the thing just vanishes.
@@Venicilia So the Zombies are actually the Zerg?
The whole cards system was the biggest indicator that I wasn't gonna like this game. Minor stat increases or minor buffs given to me by a deck of cards is incredibly annoying to me, because I always have the underlying feeling of card packs being advertised as p2w DLC.
On the plus side, that Aliens: Fireteam Elite game looks really cool.
It stinks of greed to me
The dev have said that the cards are earnable and won't be pay 2 win like EA battlefront 2 when it came out with the loot box card system
though,they really dont look minor at all honestly,from 30% to 50% increases and from a 10hit bash to 1hit knife and such,theyre more like modifiers then small boosts
I cant think of any cards they could charge for that arent already earnable in game, because some of the buffs you get later on are massive
@@kidom2 Oh, definitely a boost, there one card where it'll add 75% ammo capacity but with a negative modifier where you can't take healing items or another one where you can bring two primary weapons
The funny thing is that many of questionable design choices in this game were the exact same one valve filtered back in the development of l4d. Like the special zombies being to smilliar to eachother.
So basically Valve made and published L4D and L4D2,and Turtlerock Studios only made the concept.
@@brawler715 yes ... they made the idea but the game was made by valve.. turtle rock have good ideas but they are bad at making the games...they are more like creators of evolve
Rule34 Artists after hearing Rimmy: Write that down!
Timestamp?
@@ajollyduck i agree, timestamp?
@@ajollyduck 11:45
And confirm he has a thing for redheads don't we all.
Can’t wait to observe
They were so obsessed with not being L4D2 that they forgot what made L4D2 good.
"From the makers of L4D" is purely marketing statement. Valve did most of the work for L4D and even then by the time of B4B development turtle rock only had one person in it that had been around L4D2 days and he was from marketing so hadnt even developped the game.
Looks fun but sheesh those details are rough. Never thought about how important small things like tracers coming from the barrel were until it’s pointed out.
Never notice something until it’s gone, in this case, MANY things are missing.
And hell, the tracers thing isn't something hard to fix. Or shouldn't be. Sure, it's low priority as it's just a visual thing and the current placeholder "just works", but holy crap, that's just lazy work.
It's fun for about 1 hour, then you feel like you've seen everything
its still a pre-purchase only game, so of course its still going to be rough
@@MaineTheMan Refer to 9:10 in the video.
I wouldn’t call this game a successor to the L4D Series. The special infected are just downgraded versions of the L4D special infections, they don’t feel unique unlike L4D with their unique soundtracks and such. Most Characters just in quote of one of the youtubers who reviewed this game “Over designed” including the card system. Guns are everywhere and in places that just don’t make sense unlike L4D, sure there are some questionable gun placements in L4D but you dont see crates everywhere in places where it shouldn’t even be in. L4D did what this game didn’t, for things to make sense. All in all this game is not bad but it shouldn’t be branded as the “next” L4D at all.
When your biggest special infected doesn't struck much fear and panics as it smaller cousin from your other games
The brute plays the role of both the boomer and spitter which I think is so fuckin dumb
@@nicholasgallinaro1306 they stole the idea from the flu season mutation which includes only boomer and spitter and thought of "hey why not just make one with both of those abilities mashed togheter?"
I like what people say, when valve was making L4D with them, they noticed all the bad stuff and decided to take them out, now that they don't have valve babysitting them they are making exactly the same things valve wanted to take out because they felt bad and well... here we are
Aslong as Valve is pulling the strings nothing bad Will ever happen to a game.
I won’t be surprised if this game ends up like how Evolve did
Ya sad about evolve, I still play the shit out of the game tho
Such a shame, too; for both games
I wish I could still play evolve,
But my disc was Dead on Arrival, so I got to play it 3 times, admittedly each experience was the same
@@markmcgehee3864 stage two fixed the replayability issue tbh, but they really should have just did a full relaunch of the game with purchases carrying over; most of the community had already gave up on the game by that point
@@Cole.Ignios each time I load evolve up it lasts for about 15 minutes before my disc dies again but I am too lazy to remove it
So this is what happens when Valve's magic fingers aren't around.
Remember when the biggest controversy surrounding these games was Microsoft forcing Valve to charge money for DLC on the Xbone that was free on PC?
Now the same developers for Left 4 Dead are following suite with how they handled Evolve... Another overpriced game filled with microtransaction(only now cards + season pass) garbage, like every multiplayer game now adays... I miss when you bought a game, and the only way to unlock stuff was to play matches, not throw money at the screen. Halo Reach and Black Ops were when this system peaked and then were quickly cast aside for lootboxes.
@MEME GÓDI It's true. L4D2 was made by Valve, not TRS.
@MEME GÓDI Yes, and your point is?
@Eclipze So it is wrong to be a fan of actually good games?
as a Canadian, I completely understand why Canada is nearly gone, we're to kind to kill the zombies
Wrong, you guys are too nice, the zombies said "nah, they are too kind to kill"
No it’s not the zombies,it’s the moose
Zombies would kill the weak and sick, the moose would kill the rest
If you kill your enemies they win
Dude, so wrong.
All of us went to hide in the tundra and forests up north.
Hard to eat us if we're all hiding.
However, if the majority of the Zombies are Canadian, I think Zoey and Francis from L4D would love that aspect of this game.
After all, Canadian Vampires are anti-biker.
I don’t get why people were ever excited for this. “The creators of Left 4 Dead” also made Evolve. The red flags were all there from the first trailer.
Evolve stage 2 still will own some of my favorite moments in gaming though
People were hoping this would be a return to form after evolve, but somehow they didn’t learn anything at all from it
I mean evolved was a completely different type of game you could argue they just couldn't make a new game good and not something they have experience with
People expected a bigger , better left 4 dead, sadly we get a reskin with less things than the original. Could have been great , can be great if they fix things and lowet the price, but provably wont receive said changes and just flop like evolve.
@@Sparrowthebird I still have fun with B4B. Better then L4D 2
Ye this game is kinda ass, just makes me want to play L4D2
Edit - Okay I changed my mind the zombies call you racial slurs I love this game now.
Same exact thoughts I had when I had the opportunity to play the closed alpha.
I remember when ppl claimed this was the spiritual successor to l4d
@@killernazrat I'll be laughing at them when this game dies 1 year later
So, modded L4D2 video in the future?
yeah i didnt like it very much, i wonder what would the game be like if it had valve's magic in it & had the original L4D studio that made this game never split from valve, especially since this game is made in UE4 & not the source engine
Since this takes place in America, that Howitzer looks like a M119 light howitzer, which is a 105mm, If it were a 155mm howitzer it *should* look more like an M777.
Aye. That and 155mm guns don't have the projectile and propellant cased together like that.
There's also the older M198 155mm howitzer, but it's way bigger. This thing is definitely 105 sized.
When people from the West Coast who hate and detest guns make a game about guns
@@Thenlar The part that kinda gives a big indication for me that its an M119/L118, is the loop towbar. Seems to be fairly distinctive and only on the M119/L118.
Eh, I don't expect even people who like guns to know a lot about military howitzers. In this case, I think it's more a lack of attention to detail where maybe they had thought it was a 155, then someone changed it to 105 to better match the model, but then missed some of the text prompts when editing.
This game has made me curious about playing the original Left 4 Dead games, so good on Back 4 Blood for making me want to buy the originals!
Edit: I bought both games and I’m currently enjoying them
Get L4d 2 on steam, it has both games contenr.
@@moondragon5573 You know what’s funny? I’m downloading both games right now, never played them but I heard they are fun to play.
@@Predator20357 they are very fun, and you can mod them as much as you like
@@moondragon5573 plus you can mod it
@@Predator20357 ps: versus is the best mode
My only real problems with the game is that melee weapons feel pointless and sluggish (a glock literally deals more damage) and there isnt much feedback on getting hit (dont know where you're getting hit from, there is no black and white screen to know you're on your last revive)
the hatchet and fire axe are pretty good at dealing with things, but the machete and bat are meh.
The knife one hits whats the point
I think melee weapons can hit multiple enemies in one swing, which the knife can't. But the knife is still better damage wise.
As for the black and white thing, its the + icons next to the health bars bottom left that tell you how many more times they can go down before being completely dead.
i honestly only noticed the + things for the lifes upon rewatching this video, i still think bigger indicator like a black and white screen would be better tho.
The bat is great for crowd blocking if you're building health-gain on melee kill, health-gain on kill in critical health, and aim for headshots while using Holly. Basically infinite stamina.
I love how there's a big question mark on top of Puerto Rico on the map. We out here livin, bois!!! xD
Boriqua's be chillin.
Honestly that radioactive zone looks like it is pointing at Plant Vogtle or the Savannah River Site.
Fun fact, Rimmy: There is a glitch in the game where you can get 5 people in a lobby, with 2 people being duplicates. I don’t know how it happened, but it’s possible.
Looks like the difficulty settings need an extra option or 2 between easy and normal
It really does
Even on easy you can get easily surrounded and slaughtered in seconds
It doesn't. The difficulty system works along side the campaign, so later levels are harder than the previous, it slowly scales up and at the end of the campaign on easy is when the normal difficulty starts and that goes for normal to hard. That's the reason so many people have trouble from the first act to the next which is actually the 4th act so 3 acts higher in difficulty.
The same goes for the card system the more you unlock the more it opens up and the more choice you have. Cant help but feel most of the complaints from folk currently are based on systems they don't understand yet (and to be fair it isnt explained) and minor gripes with technical issues. Just have to say its kinda shitty to pump on a game over such trivial stuff.
@@Dougster44719 then it needs its difficulty system reworked if this is the case. they need to do what borderlands did, with the standard, true, and ultimate vault hunter modes. you have to play through each difficulty to unlock the next, which allows you to be geared up to counter the huge increase in difficulty.
people wouldn't have an issue with the card system if it operated like a perk system and not as a battle pass with cosmetic items you have to buy in order to unlock better perks and gear.
but I agree let's not shit on the game for having poor mechanics when we can focus on other things, like the png sight, the tracers that move so slow and come from your hand, and how the scripted howitzer shots failed to properly function twice, how useless every melee weapon is compared to even the basic gun or how the combat knife deals more damage than the minigun.
@@j.c.cannon2112 I didn't expect my comment to get replies lol. I don't think an increase in difficulty the later you get through the campaign is bad. It just seems like that ramping up and the difficulty settings are just... jank. Like the difficulty jumps seem rather large. I will admit, haven't played the game myself as I'm trying to save up cash, but this is just what I've observed. Please correct me if I'm wrong, though.
I do agree, though, that the game play issues like the tracers, script problems, and rather pathetic melee weapons need some addressing before full release.
@@Dougster44719 Hm.. that's a little discouraging for me. I enjoyed the fact that all the campaigns in L4D could be the same difficulty while still being enjoyable. That way it didn't matter what order you played in, you just played whatever and still had fun.
It turns out that Bad 4 Blood was bad for Rimmy's blood pressure
bad for my blood :(
That awkward moment when a game from 2021 can't compete with a game from 2009.
Seems to be happening a lot in recent years
@@ianhall6614 back then games were made to be played
I don't understand the concern. L4D had considerably less content to it, and it only stood out because there was no competition/alternative at the time. I would only imagine CS players to enjoy L4D to that extent, as both were built around source engine. I resent CS players.
@@KarmineSlash even with less content in it overall, I'd choose to play L4D/2 over other coop shooters like Payday 2, etc. It's just better made.
@@KarmineSlash Quality over quantity my guy. L4D doesn't have 30+ guns, but the guns it does have are balanced and feel unique from one another.
This game, to me, is the final evidence to convince me that it's not Turtle Rock Studois that made L4D great. It was Valve that made L4D great. I really hope Valve one day goes back to making more games. After Back 4 Blood all i want is Left 4 Dead 3 on Source 2 Engine.
Alright first, Rimmy you continue to have excellent tastes, I applaud that.
Second, as a massive fan of the L4ds this is extremely disappointing. The only way it could be worse is if I had high hopes for it from the start.
Man, as soon as i got to know that Turtle Rock Studios wanted Micro transactions on L4D but Valve didn't allow, and seeing what they did with Evolve (that had the same bullshit marketing of "from the same creators of Left 4 Dead") my hype just died.
Holly is op I was playing it and she with a blue axe and wounding struck and the paste ability make it so you get 5 hp a hit with 40% damage resistance so the most damage she can take is 3 meaning while my whole team was red barred I was in white and over 90% hp for most of veteran difficulty, heavy attack with a axe does 250 damage the highest HP pool for the one arm monster is 230 so one hit one kill even more so if you find meth head perk card
My main mans pulling a Sseth, I can't wait to see what comes out of this
I did see rimmy comment on sseth alt channel...
What do you mean by "pulling a Sseth"?
@@Kriogenic_PixelMan th-cam.com/video/jQ2r2ZFTaWk/w-d-xo.html 9:15 in the video
I will forever have respect for Sseth
As horrible as the church section is.
It’s an interesting concept at least. Actually having to secure your safe house.
Don’t feel that it should try so many specials at you, that do AOE damage in such a small area. But yea.
Addition: Also welcome to the difficulty difference.
Easiest: Actually kinda enjoyable though gets repetitive quickly.
Everything else: Just… Uh….
The "secure your safehouse" concept has been done on l4d2`s workshop before if you have it and want to try it. Cant remember what it was called though.
This game just screams Corporate with its forced in Card system and rare ass purple quality guns.
It's like they completely forgot what made left 4 Dead actually fun.
Im faintly sure i saw somewhere that they had people who worked on one of the L4D's working on this as well, which imo makes it even worse.
@@Klyskada It's actually because of those people. They had some absolutely awful ideas during development, and had to be reined in by Valve more than once.
@@GrugGangGrugGang Don't forget that nearly everyone who actually worked on L4D moved to VALVe after it came out anyways.
That is because they never knew in the first place. When TRS made Left 4 Dead, Valve had to intervene and shoot down horrible ideas multiple times. Stuff like Special Survivor Abilities, Upgradable Weapons and more generic looking special infected were all on the table before Valve told them to fuck off and make it right.
This time around there is no Valve to save the game, so what we got is a horrible mess of corporate greed and annoying trends that will be forgotten in a year.
That would be hilarious if Rimmy funded some, uh, "cultured" art of the videogame, just like Sseth did XD
UnderRail is the best RPG of 2015, people should play it.
It's like old classic Fallouts combined with Metro 2033 and with a LOT of crafting.
I loved it. I still have to beat the last section
Sseth sold me on that game, it's fantastic.
Thanks JK Rowling.
@@Kingofdragons117 ?
@@Danganraptor Look up Seth Underrail.
0:08 what exactly is he referring to? Is he talking about the perk system in dbd?
Edit: later into the video he comments more on it, I do believe it’s the perk system and the bloodweb
yea, but the blood web is way better. you get way more choices and the item you can pick instead of perks are actually helpful to playing the game and not cosmetics and sprays that the game forces you to waste 'money' on to slow down progression.
@@j.c.cannon2112 blood web is shit. It almost impossible to play on multiple different survivors cause all items and perks cannot be moved between characters. And if you want to create a builds you better of stockpile all you perks into 1 character, cause game is grindy as chinese mmo. Also rarity system is broken. You guaranteed to get 1-2 pink rarity item and 3-5 green ones, but there is 3-5(difference between killer and surv) pink items and around 30 green items.
Shorter, fuck dbd and it's devs
@@fack_duck1272 why would you ever want to play on different charachters anyway lmao
@@skotomogilnik6305
I do apologize, but I genuinely can't tell whether or not that was verbal irony. Did you mean that you thought it would be silly to switch characters, or that it is silly that the game makes switching characters so difficult? I'm just curious. Thanks in advance.
@@jonathandoe1367 well what I meant was that if the difference is purely cosmetic then it's not so tragic for player to only play single character. It's concerning Dead by Daylight, if I recall correctly.
so once again a developer makes a game that tries its best to capitalise on peoples nostalgia however they botch it with poor game design choices. The devs honestly look like they went "lets make a modern left 4 dead" and decided that to do that they needed all the trademark mechanics of modern games, Card based buff systems, A freaking battlepass system that no one asked for, "fun" and "realistic" gunplay that looks like its straight out of a budget F2P FPS and a difficulty curve that makes Tarkov look easy. I do seriously worry about the future of the industry because Investors and Executives are pushing for games to imitate each other more and more and its genuinely becoming a concern.
the only people not doing it are small teams, there's still hope. Only whales will buy these types of games...
I hope.
@@droideka1890 Even small teams are guilty of this. People always like to point the blame at publishers for these kinds of issues in games, but some developers aren't exempt of this greed either. This is a situation where I still cast much of the blame on Turtle Rock Studios, despite Warner Bros' infamous reputation with games. Turtle Rock Studios milked the hell out of Evolve and now they're doing the same exact thing again.
What hurts me more that this game *was* made by some of the original people who worked on Left 4 Dead, so to see this game finally come out which I was looking forward to, only for it to be shown off in this state really shows me how much the original devs lost their touch.
@@DeadHandtheSurvivor Most of the OG devs joined valve so if you are "hurt" for any of the 3 or 2 original devs that remained back in that studio dont be, cause they most likely were the people who tried to change both L4Ds into this type of shit only now they get to do it like in Evolve without Valve telling them what not to do.
@@greengarnish1711
That would make a lot of sense.
Now I just wish Valve would actually let the original devs make a new left 4 dead already, I would love to continue the story of the left 4 dead survivors in Source 2.
I was gonna say “man this could’ve been great” but I’ve already used that a hundred times over the past few years, damn shame.
Lost all of the simplicity that made left 4 dead amazing.
As far as fortifying Church goes, it actually takes considerable amount of time for enemies to break them down, like 10 seconds of constant bashing, so what i recommend is that, if you have problem finishing that mission, try to get few window you can to first stage, since if you actually DO finish a window, zombies just ignore it and go for open / unfinished ones, instead of wasting their time and numbers for attempting to bash down partially fortified ones
my friends and I had a fair time on church. having 2 people zerging a window at a time makes it go by fast
I won’t call any 4 coop zombie game Left 4 Dead 3 until I see the VALVE logo
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Please don't forget folks that this is also the studio that made evolve.
At least Evolve, in my opinion, had good ideas- just poor execution.
This, though... This is just bad.
11:20 Truly a man of culture, tomboys are the best...
"Look at her hat, oh yeah the bee"
Somewhere Invader Zim is screaming "THEY'RE AFTER MY ROBOT BEEEEEE!"
This game still shows so much potential, but I won't hold out for if it turns into a No Mans Sky scenario (will be happy if it does tho)
It reminds me of Payday 2 rather empty at first but hopefully it gets filled up with more content for solo and coop players
No. it's over for this awful game… Actually, it was over the minute people started comparing it to masterpieces L4D and L4D2 just cuz "same devs" ignoring the fact that Valve was overseeing the entire development of the those games and who's creative decisions were what actually made the games great.
@@xtdycxtfuv9353 no. It's pretty fun.
@@OULARTDUDE agree. Everyone is looking at left 4 dead with nostalgia. No one seems to remember everyone being PISSED at l4d2 when it came out, calling it nothing more than an expansion pack. Now it’s looked at as a masterpiece. Back4Blood isn’t bad. It needs its kinks worked out. But turtle rock did mess up by not adding the campaign mode of pvp to the beta. The mode they let everyone play is extremely uninspiring.
If it does receive content, then it's going to be behind paid dlc 😆 This game failed.
I hate the fact there are still gamers saying this is Left4Dead 3, IT'S FUCKING NOT. This game is just another zombie slayer simulator.
In my honest opinion I prefer, in terms of fun, World War Z.
Straight up that World War Z game is actually fun as hell. Good game.
yeah WWZ was honestly pretty good, so much better then this mess of a game
Beta is just a stupid excuse, even WWZ has some bugs is still fucking epic. All those zombies horde to mow down is so satisfying
They abandoned most of the things, which made their game enjoyable, current gamestate is the result of it.
I knew a modern L4D wouldn't work.
@@samuel10125 Except this doesn't really match Left 4 Dead. They share zombies and 4 player co op but thats about it. I feel that even a Left 4 Dead Remaster would work well now :-/
I can't bear how unsatisfying melee is in this game, oh god.
Ranged also sucks, feels like you're just pepper spraying them if you're not aiming down the sights.
I just love how rimmy immediately liked holy because she's a tomboys
Tomboys are cute
Tomboys is the ultimate straight man's choice.
Just as femboys are the ultimate bi man's choice.
@@chaosinc.382 Just remember Tomboy Femboys are a thing
The veteran difficult for the game is stupidly difficult for a "Hard" but survivor is a bresse once you've got a hang of it.
My and my friend tried veteran and it is fucking stupid. Ammo count is reduced, health reduced, special spawn increased, corruption cards(cards that fucks your experience or provides special secondaries for you to complete for extra cash) And me and my buddy tries to game the system quite a bit, especially the church window section and 155 loading section as you can get +25/50% use speed) and it ends super quick
My group had a somewhat similar experience except one difficulty higher. Survivor was piss easy but that's fine since it's the easy difficulty but the veteran was also quite easy. We only played the easy difficulty once and then switched to veteran and we never once lost on veteran. Starter decks, about an hour of playtime, uncoordinated decks, builds and weapons and still easily win every time.
Then there's Nightmare difficulty that's just insane compared to veteran. Really tanky special infected being spammed non stop doing tons of damage and you die instantly instead of going down. You'll get like 2 bruisers and a retch before you reach the end of the hallway in the first map and by the time you kill them more spawn. The only way we managed to finish the first map was to just run. Massive difficult spike.
There needs to be at least 3 more difficulty settings to smoothen the experience out, especially since the card system makes you stronger over time as well as you getting better at the game.
As it stands now there is no difficulty setting that is enjoyable for my group. Veteran is too easy and the next step up doesn't even feel possible with our current decks and having to grind an easy difficulty for cards then coordinating our decks and builds just to be able to play the next difficulty doesn't sound like fun.
@@Pakana_ Really? Veteran is easy? I just had a game with 3 randoms and even we struggled a tad bit, especially the end.
Unless the RNG was blessing you guys on your veteran run, but I'd agree with you that the game needs more difficulty options or at least tweak them and add a better description on the difficulties
@@TedTheHobbyist your answer: Randoms
@@merasmus9992 Oh but these random were really competent
@@TedTheHobbyist Well at this point we have played like 10-15 veteran campaings and so far we've yet to really have any issues. Doubt it's just luck.
There are really only two somewhat difficult parts in the campaing. The gauntlet event where you need to run after using the whinch and the last finale. These are the only parts where we've ever wiped. in my 21 hours we've wiped maybe 5 times on veteran.
The gauntlet becomes easy with pipebombs and you just run to the end to stop the horde and then just clean up.
The finale becomes pretty easy when you learn how it goes and prepare for it. Stack the artillery rounds near the gun, set up some gas cans and barbed wire where the infected come, blow up the new entrances to the left of the gun when they open, kill the ogre with the minigun (it dies in like 10 seconds with it) and have the other players cover the person operating the gun.
The last time I played the finale we had a 3 man group and the finale lasted 2 minutes 50 seconds. We had fired 3 of the 6 shots in 50 seconds, the ogre died in 30 seconds from spawning and 10 seconds of shooting at it and only the bot fell down because bots are dumb (the bot literally ran ahead of us, shot a propane tank and downed himself which is why I recorded the finale in the first place). If we hadn't forgotten to put all 4 artillery rounds to the ground we propably could have finished in 2 min 30 seconds, having to find the last round took about 20 seconds.
The difference might just be communication. There's a big gap between competent randoms and competent premade group with coms.
I'm so sick of half-assed "successors" to actually good games that are really nostalgic for a lot of people. It's such a cynical type of cash grab
I see civvie wrote the Title
Provided neither gets delayed, Battlefield 2042 releases 2 weeks after B4B. I don't see things going well for B4B.
No way I'm paying $80 for this either.
Fun fact, the guy who voices Hoffman voice's Rigby from regular show
The card and general shop system, cobbled with the stats gave me a bad feeling about the game, I refunded and will at best wait for a sale.
This game is gonna be a blast in 4 months after release when a ton of bugs are fixed AND it’s 20$. These devs are insane for thinking it’s 60$ and releasing it TEN DAYS before BF 2042.
I bet 200 zł that this game will cost 60$ and it will have minimum bug fixing. I can already hear devs going nuts when people ask to change card systemt to which they replay "We will not becouse bla bla bla"
Bold of you to assume it'll exist 4 months after release with the playercount dropping.
The difference in difficulty is like the difference in difficulty in warface
Ay, Redcon. Thought people forgot that game already.
@@caseblue2232 not yet my friend
I was kinda hopeful for this game, but it seems to have a whole bunch of sloppy design issues and I kinda don't like what its going for. Looking at the gameplay the only thing this has in common with Left 4 Dead is that it has zombies in it and absolutely nothing else.
We don't need another generic looter shooter. How hard is it for game devs to make a game with an organic and engaging system of progression that isn't just "oh this has better numbers, use this and nothing else". How is that fun or innovative? We have too many games that do these things as of late and its simply fatiguing to find it everywhere. We don't need every single game to be an RPG nowadays, they just need to be fun for the player.
And besides, how the hell is a zombie going to know the difference between a level 5 gun and a level 15 gun? They both shoot the exact same bullets for gods sake. Combine the overused generic gameplay loop with all the other strange and lazy issues with the game and you get something that looks nice on the surface but simply wishes to cash in on people's nostalgia for another franchise just like any other bit of low effort shovelware. Like come on devs!
"I got this game for free, I'd be fine with it, if I paid $60 I'd already have gotten a refund".
I thought the same fucking thing dude.
All of us when we looked at the first boss’s name and it’s “Ogre”: IT’S SHREK! RUN IT’S SHREK!
Also, this game looks like a DBD, L4D, CODZ, mix. (Dead by Daylight, Left 4 Dead, and Call Of Duty Zombies)
Left By Duty. :U
Call4Daylight lol.
World War Z got the horde mechnic right, and L4D got the coop, weapons, and maps right, and B4B got the end sequences right. L4D still da best though
Me and some friends are trying to beat this game on nightmare. Its an exercise of fucking frustration. Don't. Do. It.
Literally attempted the fist mission ten times trying to beat it. We're stuck on the third level after three nights of playing because nightmare doesn't record level completions, only every four levels.
Meanwhile me and my pal struggling in Veteran
From hearing some of the devs comments in a couple of streams, they don't really expect anyone to have too much success on Nightmare. Their intent (as I understand it), is to have beat the whole campaign on Veteran first, have a good choice of cards, and THEN attempt it. 1-1 is supposed to follow on, difficult wise at least, from the end of the Veteran campaign, so it's not something we're prepared for in the Beta.
Do wish the had explained the difficulty curve better so that we knew that before we lost our minds trying it...
7:28 You know the game has issues when the turret section is the "fun" part
10:08 Rimmy found the melee-heal build. That's it. He's seen everything he needs to of B4B.
I like how you put my issues with this game into words, like when you were talking about feedback and not having good indication for low hp.
11:20 Rimmy finds his waifu lmao
The more I watch Rimmy the more I realize... Our taste in woman is the same
What's your ideal woman?
@@PeachDragon_ none
@@savathunthewitchqueen4763 based, take this 👑, it's yours
@@PeachDragon_ Zoey...
@@fawful7457 based but elaborate further please
I'm so happy That people actually tear into games again because I was super excited to have a game like this to play with the squad because every other game either locks to less than 4 or you need like 6 people to have fun.
9:18
Paradox: Laughs in major changes every DLC (at least for Stellaris)
At least Paradox's DLCs tend to add something substancial. They're overpriced (and Paradox is very DLC-happy), but the content tends to be good at least.
at love at the end when rimmy says "don't buy this game, it's shit" the NPC says "you made the right choice"
I did not expect this game from you Rimmy, but I definitely want more.
Edit: may have spoke too soon, at least the graphics are decent.
It looks worse than the game it's based off of and that came out in 2009.
@@AParticularlyConcernedCitizen it's 2021 and games today still cannot beat video games made in the 2000s.
I guess classics are classics for a reason
I mean look at the explosions man, honestly seeing them in L4D would not be out of place, and that is a far older game, and I would argue L4D had more weight to some of them.
For those of you curious, the arty piece appeared to be the M119 105mm howitzer (I think it’s like L118 in British service).
17:02 no way man. Nothing will ever beat the concert in l4d2
Rimmy: Don't buy this game.
NPC: You made the right choice!
That particular Howitzer is an M119 A2 and it fires a 105mm projectile.
HEY RIMMY, COMMISSION THE "ART"!!!
I DARE YOU!!!
I think we can officially declare this game is a fustercluck. It's sad cause it had so much potential.
P.S. Rimmy, we wouldn't mind if you would play some L4D2 I'm just saying.
Rimmy play world war z or vermintide. You’d love it
@@Daftanemone world war z feel more like a successor to L4D than this at least it seem more polished than how B4B turn out and from what I see on this video, “the eye in the details” monitor of mine feel like this like a FPS ww2 game on mobile.
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Suddenly, I don't feel insane for being literally the only person as far as I know who saw the reveal and went "Why's everyone so hyped about this? It looks like absolute dogshit."
Not the only one. as i found the gameplay reveal on youtube i immediatly went "Yep, thats fucking generic." and clicked off after around a minute, it was just so... bland.
i played it and had a really fun time with friends. fuck full price though.
So I was thinking about getting the like extreme pre-order, thank you for helping me stop my unthinking spending
Alphas and betas couple months before the game drops are just demos. Idk why people think they will add or remove anything. This game looks like a f2p game.
The *second* I heard about the card system and the shop, I had a bad feeling about Back 4 Blood. They should not be in a Left 4 Dead successor. Not to mention the other issues.
that end is just has the best timing
Rimmy "don't buy this game"
store npc "you made the right choice"
even the game its self knows its bad
For a supposed "Left 4 Dead 3 we never got", this just looks like the worst aspects of today's gaming industry cobbled together and thrown into a Horde gamemode.
It's even got the lazy difficulty settings of "I'm gonna fall asleep", "how is this considered normal", and the difficulty setting preferred by masochists.
The Ascent has some fantastic artdirection and music (the main menu song is like a mixture of Blade Runner and GITS), but the weapons could have used some more work. Damage is alright, but I'd like it if there were more interesting upgrades for them.
Second google result I see when I search for BAD 4 BLOOD:
"Kotaku: Back 4 Blood Beta Players Think They Hear Zombies Yelling The N-Word [Update]"
I've had a feeling this would be a watered down Left 4 Dead when they shown footage of the game for the first time, this just confirms it.
It's weird, I saw some other people playing it months ago and I'm pretty sure it looked way better for graphics and gameplay.
@@whiskeyhound lots of games do that. they look so good in the trailers and stuff, until the early access drops
@@ZeroOne-mp1qe Nah, this was a group of let's players playing through it, I figured it was them running through early access.
I wouldn't base my expectations off promos.
Checked the video, they ran through a darker level and didn't have weapons with sights, so I didn't notice the lackluster blood and weird sight animation in that video.
Nice to see my comment about the bullet tracers leaving the hands got featured on this. This made my day!
It’s sad that so many people jumped into the game thinking it will be L4D only for it to be an entirely different beast
Yep
I was thinking this game would be more like wolrd War Z but FPS. With skills and gun custom etc.
Kinda bad that the marketing made the impression that this is going to be the next left 4 dead. So I'd blame the marketing team.
Thanks for reviewing this; I was super confused why it seemed kind of generic in style, and was hoping something about it made it stand out. Considering I still play a shameful amount of Killing Floor 2 and loved L4D1/2, kinda bummed this just seems to be a WB funded reskin with nothing too much new or polished. :/
Fallout New Vegas has a better shotgun pump animation than this game
thanks devs for reviving left 4 dead 1 and 2's versus i can now play with people that won't votekick me because i didn't death charge someone at a certain time
I went out yesterday and bought the only copy of lfd2 I could find in my area. And back 4 blood will be free on gamepass in October so hopefully they'll have some of the bugs fixed by then.
Remember when infected in Left 4 Dead, a game released in 2008, had dynamic animations for getting shot, meleed, staggered, or pushed?
Yeah. This ain't it, chief.
is the same company who make evolve....those any one remember that game?
Yes, and there's still a reasonably large playerbase that plays it
Yeah it ain't talked about much but evolve was a decent game
I remember how they killed Evolve. This game is doomed as well
Addiction is a serious illness. They should get some help.
Cool development trick.
The player character and environment are rendered on two different cameras, so what you are supposed to see on your end is the gun coming from the barrel on yours and any other render camera involving players, but the environment camera actually shows the bullets coming out your head.
So in due, they didnt do their render cameras very well if you are noticing the tracers.
THEY HAVE IT COMING FROM FROM THE TORSO, LMAO NOOOOO
Watching this again especially that church mission on the middle difficulty reminded me that me and two friends had that problem on release on easy