@@PeterTheDeleter duuude, yes phdk was meta, but so was mlx, that strat of having the healer stand on 1st floor and los with the gap while u fight on 2nd was not used in na
Everyone missed the fact about 4.1 patch. DK was getting nerfed to the gound combine with the fact that hunter deal really really low dmg.There was no PHD team over 2.2k rating in NA servers at that time. And MLS could just stomped PHD in like less than 1-2min that patch easily. OMG just 2good.
Uhhh… what? This is straight up false there was a lot of Phdk over 2k and hunter is literally one of the best pvp classes in cata. Completely inaccurate information?
if you're saying that season phd was good,you're not just a clown,an entire circus. just saying phd had some good patch in cata doesn't mean its good on that specific patch.its terrible. and i can tell you kfc is phd upgrade that dominate whole ladder most of the expansion. if you dont believe me,go ask people who actually play game back then like massive/snutz etc. maybe reckful too? oh wait hes not quite alive. yeah go say that to those people they'll laugh at you just ike me. it quite annoying red random notification just to see a random internet loser prick who have literally no idea what it was like back then accusing me of mispreading false information. get lost bro.
@its0ver9ooo Not literally dispellable, but it is disabled if the pet gets banished or cycloned. Point being, it's a very fragile ability and cannot be used to claim it's equal to the protection plate offers.
@its0ver9ooo The amount reduced by cloth is negligible. I'm saying that old argument that plate doesn't reduce magic damage is weak when on the other end of the spectrum a blade is ripping through cloth that also does not reduce magic damage.
@its0ver9ooo To have Frost Armor active, a mage has to give up Mage Armor, which makes them more vulnerable to CCs, spell damage, and running OOM. Warlock Soul Link is dispellable and dependent on the pet being alive. Pets don't last too long in PVP typically.
@its0ver9ooo On one team, Pally, Mage, Warlock. + High damage output - Low damage tolerance, very stressful on the healer. - All three use mana. When you're out, you're out. On the other, Pally, DK, Hunter. +Plate and leather can withstand the physical damage from the warlock pet, assuming it's not an imp, and the paladin if he gets aggressive. +DK somewhat self-sufficient with self healing and magic resist kit. Saves pally mana +DK and Hunter use Runic Power and Focus; they can never run OOM.
Toez messed up at the end. He decided to bubble a monkey blind when they weren't under pressure, with everyone sitting at full hp near the end, then got stun/silence locked like 30 sec later when Poopz was actually getting owned. :(
Their paladin was low on mana so they decided to stop toying with them and just lock them down with stuns and silences that are common with death knight/paladin combos. The other paladin had the mana, but just not the HPS to keep a clothie alive through a focused assault. The warlock was OOM and couldn't peel.
This might be the some of the best positioning and management by a Holy Paladin in the game's history. All of OMG played well, crazy stuff. Don't think PHDK was even that amazing at the time.
This phd for the most part wasted many cds and missed a lot of cc. Snutz team just played like ass because they didn't have much experience vs phd in cata. MLP should never lose to phd in cata.
yea but last i checked when i die or one of my friends die our names still shows up in the corner grayed out....they don't disappear like that. for example when that mage dies his name is still up there and just says hes dead.... meaning the lock quit
Locks can heal for almost 7k per second under 25k health. Above that, still 3500+ health per second with demon armor. Locks can also life tap, so no, they can never go oom unless they can never receive a heal.
what happened to the warlock? it looked like he just disappeared with full health shortly after the mage died (feel bad for the mage guy, he looked so broken after he died).
This warlock did run OOM. Probably didn't have time to waste a GCD on lifetapping while frantically trying to fend off all that offensive power. Not that it really mattered, him being a spellcaster and DKs being practically unkillable by casters.
@its0ver9ooo Now you've come full circle. Cloth doesn't do anything against magic damage either. But it's clear you're not going to listen to reason. Keep thinking your death knight wins fights because of skill.
@Philliptheilade It is, though.. In the end, it's just a game. More competitive, sure, but, it's a game. He needs to be a man and not cry about a loss. Yes, 25k you didn't WIN isn't fun, sure, but, he didn't LOSE 25k.
9:20 "Who saw that coming?" I did, when I saw the team lineup at the very beginning. DK and Paladin on the same team? Plate classes have the advantage in PVP.
He had every right to cry, hell OMG had Hunter and DK. Against two casters it wasn't really fair, then again Skill did almost drain OMG of their Pally.
In cataclysm? You really think a team with a mage and an hpal on it is a difficult setup to run? Such low skillcaps all around, no way. Like yeah warlock was a class that scaled really well with skill but I also think hunter and DK scaled well too, up to a point. I'm not really favoring either one, just saying that one of those comps wasn't particularly harder to play than the other. I wish a good WLS would have played the tournament that would've been good, that one from japan was horrible.
Well arenas are not about skill anymore... its about what team can CC / Spell lock the best O.o it normal 2s, 3s, or 5s... people can take 1-2 people out of the fight for 2 mins using chain CCs. its total crap...
Judging by the comments underneath stkill capped wasted their life time raised anf played cloth classes lol. Like this match was the first time skill capped faced plate and leather class team
that one mage "pook" or something seems like a loser man just cries at the end when he dies basically i dont even think he shook hands the white kid is the only one that actually shook hands i think... like if you lose atleast shake hands
Hunter/DK team is of course going to beat the team with two casters. To even say that Skill Capped suck is completely stupid. SC, IMO was better than OMG. As stated earlier Hunter/DK team is going to silence and stun the living hell out of casters. Can't cast spells while getting Death Gripped.
Amazing how pookz is the only one shaking hands Such babies
2024 and this match will always be legendary xd. korea next level gaming
phdk was super broken but their still good players
@@PeterTheDeleter duuude, yes phdk was meta, but so was mlx, that strat of having the healer stand on 1st floor and los with the gap while u fight on 2nd was not used in na
@@juanitoalimony9850Yeah pretty much
Everyone missed the fact about 4.1 patch.
DK was getting nerfed to the gound combine with the fact that hunter deal really really low dmg.There was no PHD team over 2.2k rating in NA servers at that time.
And MLS could just stomped PHD in like less than 1-2min that patch easily.
OMG just 2good.
Yeah i agree, PHD wasnt very good in that patch, and people were pretty surprised to see them even go to finals with that setup lol
Uhhh… what? This is straight up false there was a lot of Phdk over 2k and hunter is literally one of the best pvp classes in cata. Completely inaccurate information?
@@Xsaojn132 imagine having no clue how game was back then and reply 10years old comment.i was 2.6k whats your problem
if you're saying that season phd was good,you're not just a clown,an entire circus.
just saying phd had some good patch in cata doesn't mean its good on that specific patch.its terrible.
and i can tell you kfc is phd upgrade that dominate whole ladder most of the expansion.
if you dont believe me,go ask people who actually play game back then like massive/snutz etc.
maybe reckful too? oh wait hes not quite alive.
yeah go say that to those people they'll laugh at you just ike me.
it quite annoying red random notification just to see a random internet loser prick who have literally no idea what it was like back then accusing me of mispreading false information.
get lost bro.
yeah spreading information that phd is good in cata is clearly inaccurate information
only moron play phd in cata back then just saying
How was he a tauren pala? Can you pick any combination on arena realms?
in cataclysm u can make a tauren paladin
@its0ver9ooo
Not literally dispellable, but it is disabled if the pet gets banished or cycloned. Point being, it's a very fragile ability and cannot be used to claim it's equal to the protection plate offers.
what happened between reckful and snutz?
Probably the best tourny I saw snce I started playing WoW.
@its0ver9ooo The amount reduced by cloth is negligible. I'm saying that old argument that plate doesn't reduce magic damage is weak when on the other end of the spectrum a blade is ripping through cloth that also does not reduce magic damage.
@its0ver9ooo To have Frost Armor active, a mage has to give up Mage Armor, which makes them more vulnerable to CCs, spell damage, and running OOM.
Warlock Soul Link is dispellable and dependent on the pet being alive. Pets don't last too long in PVP typically.
@apaludde Cloth doesn't reduce physical OR magic damage, and the other team had a paladin, death knight, and hunter.
It doesn't matter what team they're going up against. Snutz has always been a sore loser.
@its0ver9ooo
On one team, Pally, Mage, Warlock.
+ High damage output
- Low damage tolerance, very stressful on the healer.
- All three use mana. When you're out, you're out.
On the other, Pally, DK, Hunter.
+Plate and leather can withstand the physical damage from the warlock pet, assuming it's not an imp, and the paladin if he gets aggressive.
+DK somewhat self-sufficient with self healing and magic resist kit. Saves pally mana
+DK and Hunter use Runic Power and Focus; they can never run OOM.
How big of a role did alliance v. horde racials play in this match?
Toez messed up at the end. He decided to bubble a monkey blind when they weren't under pressure, with everyone sitting at full hp near the end, then got stun/silence locked like 30 sec later when Poopz was actually getting owned. :(
this is more about staying clear minded and not making a mistake then it comes down to game play.
WOW that warlock seriously rage quited when the mage died...??? what terrible sportsman ship they deserved to lose.
@quattroformagio You know its for 70+ k $ ? Not ingame gold
Their paladin was low on mana so they decided to stop toying with them and just lock them down with stuns and silences that are common with death knight/paladin combos. The other paladin had the mana, but just not the HPS to keep a clothie alive through a focused assault. The warlock was OOM and couldn't peel.
Could you please upload the other games too in the series. Thanks!
Can someone tell me the char than this corean was playing please?
9:21
hunter, jungyup
This might be the some of the best positioning and management by a Holy Paladin in the game's history. All of OMG played well, crazy stuff. Don't think PHDK was even that amazing at the time.
it wasn't good into comps like ret/war or ret/dk or even RLS but PHDk was a good comp into Mage/lock
@@Palrath1 it countered RLS very hard and probably would beat shit comps like ret warr lol
@@iguerof4159 iono, i just remember smoking phdk as ret/war and ret/dk every game.
This phd for the most part wasted many cds and missed a lot of cc. Snutz team just played like ass because they didn't have much experience vs phd in cata. MLP should never lose to phd in cata.
@@wowwt lol wym? Phd has a blatant advantage on open maps like ring of valor and ruins where the rsham can’t escape.
yea but last i checked when i die or one of my friends die our names still shows up in the corner grayed out....they don't disappear like that. for example when that mage dies his name is still up there and just says hes dead.... meaning the lock quit
@vicvictorw Plate dont reduce magic damage, and the other team had a mage and a warlock
The balance of this makes the current state of the game look like dog doo doo
Now imagine seeing matches like this on TV. E sports will be a real sport soon.
"Soon" Hahhhahahha
This comment could have aged so well...
This comment did age well. Esports are literally a thing now.
At 6:20 Goochi has aura mastery up and the blanket silence from CS still got him? I thought it made them completely immune
Locks can heal for almost 7k per second under 25k health. Above that, still 3500+ health per second with demon armor. Locks can also life tap, so no, they can never go oom unless they can never receive a heal.
he left the match on a world finals...dang that must have ruined his rep so bad...or was it connection problems?
When I saw the title I was like "hah a Asian battle.."
Not really surprised. There was like 1 counter team to PHD and they did stomp them. Everything was wizcleave and PHD is strong agaisnt tht.
what happened to the warlock? it looked like he just disappeared with full health shortly after the mage died (feel bad for the mage guy, he looked so broken after he died).
The warlock was the one with his head down
@FTWFeraldruids ye i meant 75.000 $...
lol goochi is awesome, this team has like full trust in eachother
This warlock did run OOM. Probably didn't have time to waste a GCD on lifetapping while frantically trying to fend off all that offensive power.
Not that it really mattered, him being a spellcaster and DKs being practically unkillable by casters.
That's got to suck for Snutz - losing to his asian counterparts being a United Statesman.
Asian players = Respectful, unpredictable och never afraid of trying new things.
@Okazarak If they didn't overlap so badly they probably could have forced a bubble there.
HD is not HD
KOREANS PUT HUNTERS ON THE BIG SCREENS, KOREANS ARE AWESOME IMO NOW. I LOVE THEM FOR DOING THAT.
wtf this hunter landed 0 traps? 08:22 trap when sac is up ? lol
Imagine seeing a hunter at blizzcon nowadays, hunters are looking good in shadowlands for sure!
There was a few in the AWC last week lol
lmao
$75000 what would you do?
@its0ver9ooo Now you've come full circle. Cloth doesn't do anything against magic damage either.
But it's clear you're not going to listen to reason. Keep thinking your death knight wins fights because of skill.
YES YES YES, I NO BRING DISHONOR TO FAMERY, I CAN LIVE!!!!
i guess skill-capped's skill wasn't capped.
il faut battre ces asiatique au prochain championat du monde,fin 2012 en asie
HQ*
@Philliptheilade It is, though.. In the end, it's just a game. More competitive, sure, but, it's a game. He needs to be a man and not cry about a loss. Yes, 25k you didn't WIN isn't fun, sure, but, he didn't LOSE 25k.
Goochii played really well.
Snutz should play with hunter next year..
So he can shout a lot for the win
9:20
"Who saw that coming?"
I did, when I saw the team lineup at the very beginning. DK and Paladin on the same team? Plate classes have the advantage in PVP.
the guy that was crying on skill capped was playing the lock
I think that team should have one just for the facial expressions of their leader, jesus christ.
Toez Bubbles 8:30 cant stop silence shot boom dead.
He had every right to cry, hell OMG had Hunter and DK. Against two casters it wasn't really fair, then again Skill did almost drain OMG of their Pally.
You mean $75,000 my friend. He said it at 00:59
fucking intense
love how he walks into the dk NP.. i got 15% hp left lets just die.
Lol reckful screaming in the background
he's dead
PHD beat a wizard cleave? Is this really a big surprise to anyone?
Snutz! The Team carrier!
@Alexiony You're funny bad kid. Yadaydadayada 1650 rated.
they did shake hands...open your eyes...
In cataclysm? You really think a team with a mage and an hpal on it is a difficult setup to run? Such low skillcaps all around, no way. Like yeah warlock was a class that scaled really well with skill but I also think hunter and DK scaled well too, up to a point. I'm not really favoring either one, just saying that one of those comps wasn't particularly harder to play than the other. I wish a good WLS would have played the tournament that would've been good, that one from japan was horrible.
Epic Hammer
Clearly the skill cap for Hunters in arena is Korean.
he didn't rage quit, in 3v3 if 1 of ur dps dies its GG.
75,000$? Are u shiting me?
what are you talking about? rofl. this is pvp.
Well arenas are not about skill anymore... its about what team can CC / Spell lock the best O.o it normal 2s, 3s, or 5s... people can take 1-2 people out of the fight for 2 mins using chain CCs. its total crap...
actually he is the best rogue in the world
@yekiMMMMMMMMM well, I would'nt call it, JUST a game, when you have that amount of cash going on...
Judging by the comments underneath stkill capped wasted their life time raised anf played cloth classes lol. Like this match was the first time skill capped faced plate and leather class team
@MrBlazeanator well, taking shit serious is better knowing that u won. rather than didnt take it srs than cry over it..
goochi = holy god
Imagine if Reckful was on one of these teams.. One of the best rogues out there.
Was one of the best*
@@AdolfTrumpler was that really necessary
@@ale_x263 he ded
@@AdolfTrumplerhe still is, his skill is unmatched. If he would go back he would be rank1 the same day
@chimp358 hunters are awsome if you have brain to play them :)
Fuck yeah! :D
phd is Fine
Alliance!
that one mage "pook" or something seems like a loser man just cries at the end when he dies basically i dont even think he shook hands the white kid is the only one that actually shook hands i think... like if you lose atleast shake hands
Look like another Easy mode vs. Hard mode, and Easy lost.
nice!
so the team with the one white kid lost? huh...
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Hunter/DK team is of course going to beat the team with two casters. To even say that Skill Capped suck is completely stupid. SC, IMO was better than OMG. As stated earlier Hunter/DK team is going to silence and stun the living hell out of casters. Can't cast spells while getting Death Gripped.
This mage is a scrub, they should have chosen Cartoonz to go play for them.
and people are paying skill capped to watch their "helpful" videos?! wtf we should be paying OMG to learn how to pro pvp >.>
JUNGYUP HUNTER HERO
For 2 minutes? What? LOL
@yekiMMMMMMMMM Professional*
its so unfair, a non-asian can never win anything like this :(
All Pookz had to do was nova then run one direction. Instead he overextended and decided to do the derp-dance.
Look at 8:30... if only Toez didn't bubble. xD
@dimaskdd don't care
Worst gaming community is the wow arena crew.
looks like skill capped wasnt really capped lolol KARMA
@vicvictorw LOL
nerf bubble
@bcmtube asian racial is overpowered. buff us-racial!