- why not just have monochromatic sensor and filter wheels to have both 1. Great texture 2. Accurate colours, without that purple effect David was talking about Wouldn't that make perfect camera? A little more complicated but you literally have best of the best of both worlds
Just put mine (mirrorless) into "creative BW" (shooting RAW). This way you'll get the BW preview (EVF and display) to better judge contrast and light. Bonus: It will still be a color image at the computer because RAW (as long as your camera manufacturer isn't especially... creative). Or shoot jpeg if you want to "commit" to BW. Well actually, no, don't do that. Less light per pixel, yeah. But with the performance of modern cameras and AI denoise these days... Esp. with the high megapixel count, noise starts to look an awful lot like film grain (at least to me), which I pretty much enjoy. Have fun shooting :)
As a professional working photographer, this channel is quickly becoming one of the few camera related channels that I actually watch consistently. David, love your work and understanding of photography, and appreciate you sharing your passion to a larger audience. As someone who very regularly shoots black and white, I thought you did a wonderful job of explaining the differences from color shooting.
David should have a photography course. And it would be a unique experience because he isn’t just focusing on the rule of thirds or the horizon, but he’s explaining the hole in the lens that lets light through. I’ll never forget it.
@@casperguo7177 I actually never went to a class, just learnt from the internet, but trust me there are people who won’t talk enough about the mechanics of it, their ideas are more like hacks.
@@AdamSambuco the good ones do, of course. But I don’t think many explain things like david does, or like Neil Degrasse Tyson does. They are professionals but they also sound like educators. Look at Marques, he’s great but I don’t think his explainers are as good.
@@daniyal._personally I think David is great and has some really good takes on photography, but that was the most brief and basic explanation of aperture that I think I've ever heard. That was the "I'm putting this in here because it would be rude not to say anything, but let's keep it brief because most people watching this video already know" explanation. Any photographer worth their salt would be able to give that explanation in passing. He didn't really explain the *important* part of aperture which is that it controls your depth of field (he made a reference to that when talking about the man with the spiral, but never explicitly said it). If you want a really, full depth explanation on basically everything you need to know about the fundamentals of photography, Tuts+ actually has some great 3hr explainers on TH-cam. It may sound daunting, but they're worth the time (and it's *only* 3hrs vs much more struggling on your own).
That shot of Marc Rebillet and the shot of the subway are so cool! Also love attention to detail in the talking head photo review section where the set is mostly monochrome spare for a few red highlights. Fantastic video, hope we see more like it soon!
I am INSANELY impressed with David's photography! I'm playing around with B&W film now, and understand how different the photo taking process is. Great job, and I'd love to see more of these videos on the channel in the future!
I tried the M11 monochrome in the Leica Boston store few months ago and instantly fell in love with it. I've been saving up for it, and I hope I can get it soon.
Purple fringing around tree branches is most probably due to Longitudinal Chromatic Aberration or LOCA, which refers to the fact that different wavelength of light can be focused differently by the lens. So in high contrast scenes, such as tree branches in front of a bright sky, the purple or green wavelengths appear slightly out of focus when the other wavelength are in focus, hence the purple or green fringing. Demosaicing and compression algorithm might accentuate that optical defect, but I doubt they are the cause of fringing, as some lenses are corrected for less LOCA 😊
Actually, it's Lateral Chromatic Aberration that's responsible for the purple fringing David described. Longitudinal Chromatic Aberration (LOCA) is when out-of-focus areas in front of and behind the plane of focus display color fringing. But I agree that David is trying to blame the demosaicing process for a characteristic of the lens. (If he were right, then all lenses would display the same amount of color fringing on any given camera, which is most definitely not the case.)
Noticed this too, either lateral or longitudinal chromatic aberration could cause this. He's not really describing either one, he's making up something about demosaicing. He didn't say that it wasn't slightly out of focus, nor did he say it was at the corner of the image. So it's hard to tell which one the picture was displaying without knowing his camera settings or the rest of the frame. He also mispronounced ISO 😢
Debayer demosaicing can cause similar issues but mot this strong. For example around small red flowers the red may smear out. I have studied this in images taken both with rgb and monochrome sensors so it is easy to compare.
I think *some* amount of it could be explainable by debayering, but yeah I agree that it's unlikely to be noticeable like that example was (which was likely a LOCA or LACA issue). If you have a really good lens on a good camera, debayering does an awfully good job of being really sharp and convincing you that there isn't interpolation happening.
I’ve been involved with imaging in one form or another for many decades. The explanation of how sensors work including the graphics was brilliant and production top notch. And now I want a monochrome sensor camera…
Considering David is a writer/reasearcher at MKBHD....I remember when I found his channel a long time ago and thought...THIS GUY KNOWS WHAT HE IS DOING WITH A CAMERA!
Very enjoyable video. I went in thinking "why would I possibly want a black and white camera?", and ended up thinking "that's actually pretty cool and I would love to have one to check out but certainly not that price" thanks to your explanation and examples.
Some of those shots were amazing. The one from above of that woman in the centre of the frame with blackness all around her. Tha Hand on the wall one was really beautiful too. What a great eye you have for these shots. Definitely the kind of photography I love.
His explanation and craft in not just photography but everything he talks about is remarkable! So glad you are a mainstay on WVFRM and this studio ep is amazing!
This is hands down one of the best explanations on the differences between a monochrome and a normal camera sensor, must watch for anyone interested in the science and technology behind modern cameras!
Cinestill sticker and panoscan (xpan?). Can we please have an exclusive channel for David’s film photography, please, thank you! Your images are great David!
Loved the video. I was always critical of a monochrome camera or B&W photography but a few months ago I tryed out a B&W analog film and actually loved it. Since then at least half of my analog films have been B&W. Digital i still lean more toward color. (also loved the Marc Rebillet cameo at 5:56 :D )
The monochrome Leica and the one they made without a screen on the back are my two dream cameras. I shot film on a Leica back when it was a lot more affordable and to this day I feel so grateful for that experience. They are such amazing cameras to hold, use, and look through. The single best thing about using a Leica (for me) is the manual focus using a coupled rangefinder, nothing compares to that experience, it is such a delight.
It's nice to see a review with more thoughtfully created images. Lovely work. I also enjoyed how you explain the concepts as well as the details of the camera. Look forward to seeing more of your content going forward.
my dedicated astronomy camera for space photography is monochrome for all these reasons - placing specific wavelength filters in front allows for a much for specific and high quality output. thanks for such a great video!
Absolutely awesome content! Really interesting and well filmed/edited! One small critique, I would prefer it if the moving background behind the illustrations were moving much slower. It does distract a bit...
Davids photography theory explanation is so understandable and great , man please do more camera review and photography sessions like these DAVID !! 🤠🤠
watching this video helped reignite my love for photography. i started on black and white film in high school and college, but slowly lost interest over the years as phone cameras got better and better. nothing beats that manual feel though and now i'm searching for a good compact camera to start up again.
One of the most concise and accurate explanations of the differences between color and BW sensors. Now if the maximum mechanical shutter speed on the M11 is 1/4000s, the electronic shutter goes up to 1/16000s. As for the zone system it is a far more complex process that what is referred to (that has nothing to do with zone system by the way) and only applies to film. Great video anyway.
I waited to watch anything, was honestly 10x more happy watch this over the Asus ROG phone. Love the main channel but sometimes this slaps better, sometimes.
Amazing photos! As an aspiring digital artist, I have been studying greyscale images for about two months now (two understand proper values and stuff). I always studied colored photos which were switched to monochrome, but something had always felt off (especially studying from trees and their purple cast on the fine edges). Your photos and your explanation have enlightened me, David. Thank you!
I know this comment is way too late and probably won't ever be seen but I'd love to see in the future (if you ever do another monochrome camera video) is that whenever David says "as you can see, there is so much detail..." is to have taken a photo in that same environment/setting with a color camera (like a regular Leica M11) and then apply a B&W filter or desaturate. Of course it's difficult to fully replicate street photography (since it's not a controlled environment) but the architecture photos could have easily have been also shot using a color camera as well, which would allow us to compare the B&W camera photos with the color camera ones. The photo of the person in front of the painting is a prime example of this. It's mentioned that you can see so much detail in the scarf, but without any control to compare it to, I have no clue if that's a lot of detail given the shooting conditions that were available or not. I've seen plenty of color cameras produce that level of detail (and plenty of color photos that had even sharper detail). I follow the reasoning behind not having to use a color filter = more detail, but I'd rather be shown than told.
Just so you know, your comment is on point and has been noticed… at least by me. I had the opportunity to test the monochrome camera and I must admit the tonal quality of the images struck me as very different from the typical conversion from color. I can only imagine what the camera can do with an APO lens on… the crispness must be mind boggling!
Lived the vid, all the photos are draught 🔥👌 beautiful compositions, nice use of light and shadows. But the cinestill sticker on your lap caught my eye, haha. I need those tooo🙈😹
Very nice pictures! It doesn't happen often that someone who explains the technical side of photography is also an amazing photographer. Very nice video.
"I am still not very good at b&w photography..." these are some impressive shots and meanwhile there are people running around with der 3 year old iPhone calling themselves professional photographers. These are solid photos. You are really good at this. Keep up the good work.
4:25 the purple halo is chromatic aberration, caused by the way light interacts with the glass elements in your lens. This can be fixed using certain arrangements of glass, such as Apochromatic lenses.
Absolutely love David's photography
Indeed! I was going to write the same comment!
Does he have a social media site for the photos?
@@jaughnekow there is a link with the photos in the description
His knowledge lacks a few things, the purple fringing of the tree branches is caused by the lens, not by the sensor....
- why not just have monochromatic sensor and filter wheels to have both
1. Great texture
2. Accurate colours, without that purple effect David was talking about
Wouldn't that make perfect camera?
A little more complicated but you literally have best of the best of both worlds
Why do I suddenly want a monochrome camera now...
I would suspect because its so different than what we're used to now, but also David really sold us on it with his amazing pictures xD
Get a film SLR, like i did
his photos lefts me awe struck
Just put mine (mirrorless) into "creative BW" (shooting RAW). This way you'll get the BW preview (EVF and display) to better judge contrast and light. Bonus: It will still be a color image at the computer because RAW (as long as your camera manufacturer isn't especially... creative). Or shoot jpeg if you want to "commit" to BW. Well actually, no, don't do that.
Less light per pixel, yeah. But with the performance of modern cameras and AI denoise these days... Esp. with the high megapixel count, noise starts to look an awful lot like film grain (at least to me), which I pretty much enjoy.
Have fun shooting :)
Because you love excess?
The fact that all the background/stage was turned into black and white!! shows the dedication these guys have. Top notch content. Absolutely amazing.
The set design of MKBHD channels is innovative
And the red Leica circle on the laptop
@@Theend-ql3vc it's cinestill
This Studio channel is one of the best decision you guys ever made, love this❤
This. This. This. The diversity of the content from goofy around the studio to Davidslong form work. It is a wonderful channel ❤
💯
This crew is phenomenal individually!
As a professional working photographer, this channel is quickly becoming one of the few camera related channels that I actually watch consistently. David, love your work and understanding of photography, and appreciate you sharing your passion to a larger audience. As someone who very regularly shoots black and white, I thought you did a wonderful job of explaining the differences from color shooting.
But this is like their third camera video
My man just dropping an amazing pic of loopdaddy like it’s no biggie
Been a photographer for 10 years now and while I didn’t learn anything new I really appreciate how well thought out and informative this video was
David should have a photography course. And it would be a unique experience because he isn’t just focusing on the rule of thirds or the horizon, but he’s explaining the hole in the lens that lets light through. I’ll never forget it.
I like David's content and all, but every photography course explains the concept of aperture and how much light it lets through.
You got scammed if whoever taught you photography didn’t explain aperture
@@casperguo7177 I actually never went to a class, just learnt from the internet, but trust me there are people who won’t talk enough about the mechanics of it, their ideas are more like hacks.
@@AdamSambuco the good ones do, of course. But I don’t think many explain things like david does, or like Neil Degrasse Tyson does. They are professionals but they also sound like educators. Look at Marques, he’s great but I don’t think his explainers are as good.
@@daniyal._personally I think David is great and has some really good takes on photography, but that was the most brief and basic explanation of aperture that I think I've ever heard. That was the "I'm putting this in here because it would be rude not to say anything, but let's keep it brief because most people watching this video already know" explanation. Any photographer worth their salt would be able to give that explanation in passing. He didn't really explain the *important* part of aperture which is that it controls your depth of field (he made a reference to that when talking about the man with the spiral, but never explicitly said it). If you want a really, full depth explanation on basically everything you need to know about the fundamentals of photography, Tuts+ actually has some great 3hr explainers on TH-cam. It may sound daunting, but they're worth the time (and it's *only* 3hrs vs much more struggling on your own).
I've never seen such an informative review and the sample photos are better than most people's portfolio shots.
The fact the set was in black and white is such great attention to detail
Many channels will teach you these concepts, but very few will do it in a very digestible way like this video. and David's photos are damn good.
The man in the painting photo is outstanding.
Always there for a surprise, Marc Rebillet shot! Great work, David and team!
That shot of Marc Rebillet and the shot of the subway are so cool! Also love attention to detail in the talking head photo review section where the set is mostly monochrome spare for a few red highlights. Fantastic video, hope we see more like it soon!
ok then this is what am gonna talk about in my Computer Architecture presentation lecture this Sunday. THANK YOU
I am INSANELY impressed with David's photography! I'm playing around with B&W film now, and understand how different the photo taking process is. Great job, and I'd love to see more of these videos on the channel in the future!
I tried the M11 monochrome in the Leica Boston store few months ago and instantly fell in love with it. I've been saving up for it, and I hope I can get it soon.
Purple fringing around tree branches is most probably due to Longitudinal Chromatic Aberration or LOCA, which refers to the fact that different wavelength of light can be focused differently by the lens. So in high contrast scenes, such as tree branches in front of a bright sky, the purple or green wavelengths appear slightly out of focus when the other wavelength are in focus, hence the purple or green fringing. Demosaicing and compression algorithm might accentuate that optical defect, but I doubt they are the cause of fringing, as some lenses are corrected for less LOCA 😊
Actually, it's Lateral Chromatic Aberration that's responsible for the purple fringing David described. Longitudinal Chromatic Aberration (LOCA) is when out-of-focus areas in front of and behind the plane of focus display color fringing. But I agree that David is trying to blame the demosaicing process for a characteristic of the lens. (If he were right, then all lenses would display the same amount of color fringing on any given camera, which is most definitely not the case.)
thanks for this comment. i was questioning myself for a second there
Noticed this too, either lateral or longitudinal chromatic aberration could cause this. He's not really describing either one, he's making up something about demosaicing. He didn't say that it wasn't slightly out of focus, nor did he say it was at the corner of the image. So it's hard to tell which one the picture was displaying without knowing his camera settings or the rest of the frame.
He also mispronounced ISO 😢
Debayer demosaicing can cause similar issues but mot this strong. For example around small red flowers the red may smear out. I have studied this in images taken both with rgb and monochrome sensors so it is easy to compare.
I think *some* amount of it could be explainable by debayering, but yeah I agree that it's unlikely to be noticeable like that example was (which was likely a LOCA or LACA issue). If you have a really good lens on a good camera, debayering does an awfully good job of being really sharp and convincing you that there isn't interpolation happening.
I’ve been involved with imaging in one form or another for many decades. The explanation of how sensors work including the graphics was brilliant and production top notch. And now I want a monochrome sensor camera…
"I'm not too good at it" and then shows some absolutely baller photos. Nice job David. You're kicking ass, full stop.
The photo of the man looking at the painting is absolutely phenomenal.
Considering David is a writer/reasearcher at MKBHD....I remember when I found his channel a long time ago and thought...THIS GUY KNOWS WHAT HE IS DOING WITH A CAMERA!
Very enjoyable video. I went in thinking "why would I possibly want a black and white camera?", and ended up thinking "that's actually pretty cool and I would love to have one to check out but certainly not that price" thanks to your explanation and examples.
each time there an entire video with David , I make sure I Watch every second of it.
Some of those shots were amazing. The one from above of that woman in the centre of the frame with blackness all around her. Tha Hand on the wall one was really beautiful too. What a great eye you have for these shots. Definitely the kind of photography I love.
I've seen a few reviews on the M11 Monochrome and this guy's photos are the best example on how to maximise the camera "limitations"
The graphics in the sensor explanation - so good and sleek!
His explanation and craft in not just photography but everything he talks about is remarkable! So glad you are a mainstay on WVFRM and this studio ep is amazing!
Love having Mr. Imel doing the camera reviews over here.
great video. great music. for anyone interested the song at 5:40 is Ten Days - Dylan Sitts
This is hands down one of the best explanations on the differences between a monochrome and a normal camera sensor, must watch for anyone interested in the science and technology behind modern cameras!
david is fantastic at explaining things. wish he posted more solo videos here and on his own channel
LOVE that you guys are using David as the resident "photographer" this is awesome.
Cinestill sticker and panoscan (xpan?). Can we please have an exclusive channel for David’s film photography, please, thank you! Your images are great David!
The thing I enjoyed apart from the explanation and photos was the set they chose. Freaking monochromatic. Awesome🖤
Loved the video. I was always critical of a monochrome camera or B&W photography but a few months ago I tryed out a B&W analog film and actually loved it. Since then at least half of my analog films have been B&W. Digital i still lean more toward color.
(also loved the Marc Rebillet cameo at 5:56 :D )
patiently waiting for david’s photography masterclass
Holy moley those are your photos? You are multi-talented bruv! Btw love the review! Love the early explanation stuff! Keep it up 👌🙏
Can we appreciate how easy he makes complicated things to understand .
the 5:50 photo is incredible!
Your explanation at the first part of the video was great man, props!
This turns out to be a better review than what i see dedicated photography channel covering the M11M. 🎉
The monochrome Leica and the one they made without a screen on the back are my two dream cameras. I shot film on a Leica back when it was a lot more affordable and to this day I feel so grateful for that experience. They are such amazing cameras to hold, use, and look through. The single best thing about using a Leica (for me) is the manual focus using a coupled rangefinder, nothing compares to that experience, it is such a delight.
Something you don't expect to see in camera reviews is good pictures taken during the process, but maaaan, you're good at photography!
It's nice to see a review with more thoughtfully created images. Lovely work. I also enjoyed how you explain the concepts as well as the details of the camera. Look forward to seeing more of your content going forward.
First time I felt like I understood black and white photography. Thank you for this video! Some more please.
the breakdown of how the camera works was really good
Thanks Dear David for sharing res Images
love your photographs
DAMN !! That black and white set in 'Photo Breakdown' section looks SICKKK !! 🔥🔥
Love David's passion for cameras and photography.
I felt like I could watch those shots from David for hours I was so mesmerized 😍
Best camera review I’ve seen in years. More of this please.
my dedicated astronomy camera for space photography is monochrome for all these reasons - placing specific wavelength filters in front allows for a much for specific and high quality output. thanks for such a great video!
Absolutely awesome content! Really interesting and well filmed/edited! One small critique, I would prefer it if the moving background behind the illustrations were moving much slower. It does distract a bit...
That B roll is incredible. Great video.
this is the best studio channel video to date, would love to see more photography content in the future
We definitely need more photocamera reviews from David, new fuji ones would be highly anticipated. Thank you💗
Davids photography theory explanation is so understandable and great , man please do more camera review and photography sessions like these DAVID !! 🤠🤠
watching this video helped reignite my love for photography. i started on black and white film in high school and college, but slowly lost interest over the years as phone cameras got better and better. nothing beats that manual feel though and now i'm searching for a good compact camera to start up again.
i love that your background is black and white with the accessories esp the globe
One of the most concise and accurate explanations of the differences between color and BW sensors. Now if the maximum mechanical shutter speed on the M11 is 1/4000s, the electronic shutter goes up to 1/16000s. As for the zone system it is a far more complex process that what is referred to (that has nothing to do with zone system by the way) and only applies to film. Great video anyway.
awesome video and GREAT photos!
I waited to watch anything, was honestly 10x more happy watch this over the Asus ROG phone. Love the main channel but sometimes this slaps better, sometimes.
Amazing photos! As an aspiring digital artist, I have been studying greyscale images for about two months now (two understand proper values and stuff). I always studied colored photos which were switched to monochrome, but something had always felt off (especially studying from trees and their purple cast on the fine edges). Your photos and your explanation have enlightened me, David. Thank you!
On B&W, I think you’re quite good at it actually! Great video!
This was such an incredibly high quality video
I know this comment is way too late and probably won't ever be seen but I'd love to see in the future (if you ever do another monochrome camera video) is that whenever David says "as you can see, there is so much detail..." is to have taken a photo in that same environment/setting with a color camera (like a regular Leica M11) and then apply a B&W filter or desaturate. Of course it's difficult to fully replicate street photography (since it's not a controlled environment) but the architecture photos could have easily have been also shot using a color camera as well, which would allow us to compare the B&W camera photos with the color camera ones.
The photo of the person in front of the painting is a prime example of this. It's mentioned that you can see so much detail in the scarf, but without any control to compare it to, I have no clue if that's a lot of detail given the shooting conditions that were available or not. I've seen plenty of color cameras produce that level of detail (and plenty of color photos that had even sharper detail). I follow the reasoning behind not having to use a color filter = more detail, but I'd rather be shown than told.
Just so you know, your comment is on point and has been noticed… at least by me. I had the opportunity to test the monochrome camera and I must admit the tonal quality of the images struck me as very different from the typical conversion from color. I can only imagine what the camera can do with an APO lens on… the crispness must be mind boggling!
Would love to see more on photography from David!!
Great Video
Lived the vid, all the photos are draught 🔥👌 beautiful compositions, nice use of light and shadows. But the cinestill sticker on your lap caught my eye, haha. I need those tooo🙈😹
Need more David photography content! Great video
Usually reviewer photos are ass. Your photos are absolute bangers man. Love em
Set design is very thoughtful when you are looking at the photos
One of my favourite videos this channel has made so far!! Absolutely love it
I love that you are doing Leica content on the channel. Simply beautiful technology
I feel so inspired to go out and shoot in black and white after seeing your photos. Fantastic work and loved the video, those are stunning photos!
dude, what the hell, your pictures are brilliant!
Very nice pictures! It doesn't happen often that someone who explains the technical side of photography is also an amazing photographer. Very nice video.
Love the photos and the black and white set up 😊
"I am still not very good at b&w photography..." these are some impressive shots and meanwhile there are people running around with der 3 year old iPhone calling themselves professional photographers. These are solid photos. You are really good at this. Keep up the good work.
Really really cool video, loved how educational it was on camera settings, plus the filter explanation. Big kudos David!
Love David's photography..
Oh man those photos are amazing, been a while since I felt a chill like that... Immaculate.
The crisp in this video is awesome
Yeeeessss!! Another video “review” that comes with explainers and cool graphics! Just like that last review on the Studio channel :D Bring em on!
Loved this review. David is great. Such a fantastic person to review cameras.
So nice video! Great analysis and photography explanation. It's a shame that isn't on the main channel.
Waiting for the next one related to that. Tks
black and white photography is purely amazing when done right
those photos were mesmerising
I love the 'monochrome' set. That was an excellent touch
Beautiful shots, beautiful explanation, beautiful video.
I really enjoyed this video a lot. Also quite some impressive scenes!
Looking forward to the next one
5:41 those are some incredible photos 🤤
Wow this is nice. Keep up stills photography content running. Those photos are incredible!
4:25 the purple halo is chromatic aberration, caused by the way light interacts with the glass elements in your lens. This can be fixed using certain arrangements of glass, such as Apochromatic lenses.
David has some serious talent!
This channel finna be the best tech/education channel
As a big camera nerd, i enjoyed that OG Leica video y'all made so seeing this pop up in my feed made me smile :) yay more camera tech and David!
Very good review David. I checked the Full res images link and they look fantastic.
wow one of those camera reviewers that actually shoot good photos! those photos are absolutely leica worthy
Really enjoyed the photography. Big fan of the compositions