Was just about to post this, but indeed that's why the convertible versions tend to be somewhat heavier. The chassis needs to be stiffened, as it tends to flex more due to the missing roof structure.
Funfact: Cabriolet usually have the same weight or are heavier than their normal coupe counterparts. This is due to the fact that support struts are needed to prevent the frame from twisting/bending. So the new Porsche is pretty spot on. :D
Exactly. The roof is an important structural part of the car similar to bows on bridges. If you cut the roof, you need to compensate this by reinforce the vehicle floor. Due to how geometry is an important part for structural strength and a roofless car can't profit from geometry that much anymore, you need more reinforcing metal in the floor than you would need for a roof. In fact, that's why all racing cars are coupés and even hyper cars as well as all Porsche designed a little bit more for racing are also mostly coupés.
Just thought you should know, the Taigan can also be used to perform bike jumps, and since it holds 10 rounds at once they can be chained together. Tested it myself, and ended up accelerating fast enough to get stuck sideways in a wall, 10/10 transportation.
I personally love the addition of another convertible. Especially in the first person perspective, with turned up ray tracing, makes driving through corporate plaza at night a whole different experience.
The "Peacekeeper" also has a different exhaust than all the other Kusanagi bikes. It looks like carbon fiber and has dual exhaust ports, 2 on each side. Personally, I'd put it in the S tier as I feel like it's a naked version of the CT3X, and I love naked bikes.
I'm so sad that we're likely done getting new stuff in CP'77. It's been awesome to watch the game grow over the past 3 years (although yes, it should have been a lot better at launch) and all the new features and collectables and secrets have kept the game relatively fresh and exciting. Phantom Liberty (like H of S and B & W before it) was one of the best expansions for any game, period. It's been a good run. Now we wait.
I hope the next cyberpunk is based once again, in Night City...only possible difference being dependent on whether or not it takes places before or after the year 2077 where I'd like for Night City to obviously have changes such as buildings that were under construction in 2077 have been finished in the next game, or if it's in the past to have all the stuff that was destroyed in the second corporate war be in prime condition etc. Point being I want and I think if people thought about it I think most people should want a cyberpunk series that basically always takes place in Night City. Having it become a place that you get to know like home but at the same time having different areas that you go to for different missions different buildings that open up where you go into apartments and warehouses that you hadn't been to before. TLDR I just want to see a cyberpunk series that takes place in/has the same map of Night City as in 2077 but adjusted for the year whether in the future or in the past. So it can be a place that you know but is evolving or for lack of a better word devolving if it's prior to 2077 whatever entry it is. I would love that. I read an article that gave me this opinion and one of the main points of using the same map of Night City is not only would it be cool in my opinion it would also make game development much easier to where they can focus more on actual gameplay and mechanics because instead of just taking an amazing map like Night City using it once and then never using it again, they could make the small adjustments needed for what year it takes place in and also where the next entries main story line and side missions take you within the high rises the back alleys the underground tunnels, the bad lands, apartments etc to meet new characters new gangs with changing territory lines from the street wars they are constantly battling. Or having a ghetto turned into a corpo and/or rich area literally like gentrification or the other way around where Rich neighborhoods fall into poverty. I can just see myself falling in love with my city or essentially never falling out of love with it because we wouldn't have to say hi & bye to Night City where it lived and died in 2077 and that was it. But only getting to know it better, feeling like Night City is YOUR city. Creating a sense of an attachment to it, and even pride about it from your "street knowledge" not even needing the map because you just know where you are in general. It definitely wouldn't have to be for every entry and thinking about it I don't know if I would want it to be but if they were maybe to just have every third release be a different map like New York or somewhere like Colorado with a city but also mountains for a change of pace. BUT 100000% I will be so disappointed if the next cyberpunk is not set in Night City it's just too good of a map with so many things you can do based on the timeline and just opening up different areas and places with new characters. All this is obviously said with me assuming we're going to beat the odds and be lucky enough to have enough time to even play a Cyberpunk #2 by not having the *inevitable* sooner than later crash of the American dollar and/or "simply" having something like a war, emp, invasion of the US causing total anarchy/total societal collapse to even allow for 3, 5, or even 7 entries in the cyberpunk series. Sorry to end on a negative note but the truth is the truth it's not even a conspiracy we spoiled Americans just think we're invincible for so many reasons but what do you expect when the saying "what do men learn from history? That men never learn from history." Still rings true today just like it has for thousands of years lol. "Things will figure themselves out", "we are different" "we'll do it better this time" or the most common outlook of the average American with a goldfish's memory, attention span, and intelligence of "NO WAY AMERICA IS JUST GOING TO COLLAPSE BRO! LOL UR CRAZY" being said with absolutely nothing but emotions not evidence and known history (with how it does literally repeat itself over and over.) I'm get cynical so easy, obviously. SORRY. POINT: CDPR PLEEAAASSE make the next cyberpunk be based once again in Night City!!! That way it SHOULD be good to go from release day with a map I can continue to love and explore. Lol
I found a neat trick to accelerate even faster with the new motorcycle mechanics. If you lean forward while accelerating, you’ll take weight off of the back wheel and allow it to speed up. When you stop leaning the back wheel will push you forward. Not sure how much it helps over the long run but I figured I’d throw it out there in case anyone finds it useful
I really like the kusanagi peacekeeper because it's blue and black, perfect for me. I like this update for the new bikes but i wish we have customization for changing the red kusanagi to black or blue.
Z3X is still on top for me, although I really like Jackies arch a lot too. The new cabriolet is too tacky imho. What I love about the original, is how it felt like a contrast to the time of 2077, tho I still don't like driving it. Me, I was hoping for a speed daemon MC to rival Caliburn , but in stead I removed CP2077. I want to have the option to revisit the game later, and feel like I still got things I haven't done in game. Thanks for completing the vehicle list Sam
My favorite car is still the Riptide "Terrier." Entirely for the style of the roof folding up to enter it, makes me feel like getting in the cockpit of an x-wing. Also the dash looks awesome. I've had this weird relationship with vehicles in 2077, where I started using only bikes due to the handling... and now try to do first person car driving as much as I can for the sheer ambiance. The detail they put into the dashboards of these cars is amazing. For that, the Terrier has a really good field of view with the way the window sits, though the Caliburn has better handling and similar view. Caliburn would win everything if it wasn't for the inability to shoot forwards while driving.
The Porche's weight, thats actually rather common for convertible versions of cars to be heavier. They require more rigidity in the chassis to make up for the lost rigidity of not having a solid roof, the added weight of that is more then whats lost by removing the roof.
I can imagine if Johnny Silverman went full merk an got the relic instead. How do you think that would turn out. In my opinion it would be more comedic at the start of the game then it becomes a don't meet your hero it only leads to disappointment deal.
Fun fact, cabriolets in real life are generally heavier than their coupe/sedan counterparts, since the roof actually serves as an important structural member of a vehicle, and removing it necessitates other areas of the frame to be reinforced. Since this is a far less efficient method of stiffening a vehicle's chassis, they weigh more but even still exhibit more chassis flex than the models with roofs. Triangles for the win.
Fun Fact about the Nazare Racer: The headlights are absolutely blood RED. On a whim I went about turning on the rim lights, wound up turning on the headlights by accident and noticed everything in front of me was bathed in a crazy deep red. That and its overall design really won me over. It looks absolutely amazing. It's fast and manueaverable enough that I don't feel I'm missing out using it.
9:30 despite not having a roof the car has to be fitted with a more reinforced chassis to support the convertible feature, therefore making the car heavier
The cabriolet is heavier for a reason like how the actual Porsche 930 Targa and Cabrio are heavier than the coupe and that actually goes the same ways for all cabrios. Due to lacking a solid roof, there's no connecting pillars to the actual chassis like a normal car thru A, B or sometimes C-pillars so to remedy that, carmakers had to strengthen the core of the chassis by running more bars to prevent twisting and chassis flex due to the lack of a structural support now. That in return increases weight for almost every cabriolet in the market against their coupe counterpart, same goes to the 930 Cabriolet here.
Damn, I still hope there would be patch with more stockalike car variants and two more Apolos (one with that sleek hood and dual lights that Pablo Jumper had, one with all the transport boxes that Altecaldos use)... I want me some base Merrimac, some Mackinaw Larimore, a Shion Targa, a non-rallye Quartz, a solar-powered non-widebody Hella, a pre-facelift Maimai, a junker/drift missile Maimai, a non-widebody Deleon, a clean sporty GA32 Galena, a non-stripped-down Supron, a non-riced Hozouki, a base-eddition Riptide (with those 70's Dodge Challenger-ish rear lights), a Caliburn without aftermarket wheels, an Aerondight with mesh concave wheels, a Alvarado with mesh wheels... Cars that I already see on the streets of Night City in trafic but ones that I am unable to get...
Nice little fact about the new Porche's weight: Convertables are generally heavier than the regular roof, as they need to hold enough fabric in an exrra compartment, both of which add weight, as opposed to heavin a regular roof of lighter materials.
6:11 I can think of a couple reasons as to why bikes aren’t allowed, 1. Normally they require 2 people in one vehicle, one for driving and the other for shooting at other racers (of course the exception has been given to V due to the fact that V can easily drive and shoot at once which is part of the reason on what brings me to #2) and as we know, none of the bikes in this game have 2 seats, and 2. Bikes are generally harder to race against because bikes are generally a lot faster than most vehicles
I have a good video for you Sam: Guaranteed basic 5++ Melee weapons with 2 empty slots. Right now it's impossible in game to save scum one because the rarity always changes, but NCPD scanner hustles ALWAYS drop the same ITEM and it will ALWAYS have a set rarity based on your level. Theres a scanner hustle with 2 punk knives in north east rancho coranado, a few minutes of save scumming you can get a 5++ punk knife with 2 mod slots. Huge for someone on PS5 or Xbox that can't mod. I'm sure theres a scanner hustle with a guaranteed Katana drop somewhere.
I think some futuristic dystopian M.C. type raised handle bars, crazy design, long front forks, straight arms gripping the handlebars, etc would be SICK.
Convertibles are heavier than cars with a roof because it is a structural component, without it the thing needs reinforcements on its sides and bottom, where it is the least efficient to do so in regards to the stresses that they are trying to reinforce to.
9:33 but a hefty amount of chassis strengthening. You see, convertibles that are not designed from the ground up as such will lose a lot of structural integrity upon the removal of the roof, which needs to be compensated for by stiffening the chassis and bodywork (often through running extra cross bracing in the floor, or the doors. The weight of those reinforcements is sufficient that most convertible versions of fixed roof models are in fact heavier (and in the past a lot softer and more wallowy).
@@metadata4255 Not a good way to start a comment full of misreading what I have said and being factually incorrect. First - the MX5 or Miata is designed from the ground up as a Roadster. It is built in a way that doesn’t require additional strengthening being put in, because it never was meant to have a fixed roof to begin with. Furthermore it is a roadster. Characterised by having only two seats, and being meant to be driven predominantly with the roof down. That is a different type of car altogether. Plus, it’s very small. Not a lot of area that hangs freely between the wheels, which naturally aids structural integrity. Second - the RX8 is a four door (2+2 door actually) Coupé with more space for passengers and luggage, and it’s geared more towards everyday driving and the compromises that entails. (More luxuries like air conditioning, sound dampening, electronics… Few weight saving measures) And if you meant to write RX7, which would make a lot more sense, that is its own platform as well. It never had a convertible version and was meant to compete against front engined sports cars of its time, for example the Porsche 944. And it is exactly in the required weight class for that. Take a Bentley Continental for example. That one was designed as a Coupé first, and only after was given a convertible version. As a result the convertible is around 130-200kg heavier than the fixed roof variant. It has a long wheelbase which requires additional bracing so it doesn’t flex as much, and also doesn’t just straight up break in half. An MX5 is the complete opposite in every way. Plus it doesn’t have a mechanism to raise the roof, or a very small one in the newer models, and the old ones lack additional bracing in the roof to make it secure in the event of a rollover. To summarise… please read my comment again (and thoroughly), it is factually correct. Also let me know if it is an RX8 or RX7 (both excellent choices, I love those, and I love MX5s as well!).
Drop tops are heavier, because they need braces to make them as sturdy/rigid as cars with roofs. The body is compromised when you remove the roof. I wish we could get the murdered out Kusanagi from the scanner hustle in the parking building near Judy's.
Spent nearly 500 hours in this game and oh my god if u havent made this video i never would have known that there is a 2nd porsche holy sht, most of my cars nowadays come from mods so i barely ever go to autofixer, well certainly i had no idea they would add more cars/bikes to the game, wow just wow awesome 😂
The cabriolet being heavier makes sense because the lack of a solid roof meant the other parts of the car need to be strengthened in order to maintain its rigidity. You see that all the time in real life cars, Porsches included.
Convertibles are always heavier than the standard model as the frame/chassis has to be stronger due to less structural integrity since there's being no roof.
The Porsche Cabriolet is such a cool addition to the game. Its a performance car that lets you see your character and the handling of the Porsches in this game is top tier so when driving around in the city it has nearly replaced bikes for me. Also as someone who has just started a new playthrough you can buy it as early as the start of Act 2! Which means unlike Johnny's Porsche you can enjoy it for the majority of your playthrough if your willing to cough up $75,000 for it.
9:33 Convertible versions of cars will be heavier than the roofed versions of cars because the body of convertibles have to be reinforced to deal with the lack of a roof which would provide structural rigidity.
Guess they made it like actual drop tops... need more structure in the sides and undercarriage bc no b, or c pillars. So drop tops will be heavier than their roof counterparts.
Oh if ye did not know they added 10 iconic weapons of a form to 2.1 from the air drops or form the illegal weapon vender in Dogtown you can buy or get the Amazon weapons for all players, and There is also 3 new X-mod 2 weapons one is a claw melee on top of the black pyramid building that Hands is at, behind before said building there is a crashed helicopter that ye need 10 body to get a LMG MA70 x-mod, also the building east of the black sapphire on the second level there is a small cramped path that leads to a room that has an Achilles x-mod2 weapon gold, and last near the dam in Aroyyo there is a guy up there with a black version of the weapon from venus and furs weapon, but it is the BFM 9000. I hope this helps.
Cabrio porche or any cabrio version of any car is heavier than the regular one because the base of cabriolets is reinforced with thicker steel for structural purposes because they got no roof.
Interesting observation, the colour scheme for the Porsche seems to be an inversion of the Joest Racing New Man Porsche 956/962 Le Mans winners from the mid 1980's.
I haven’t played since the new patch dropped but my god will that Nazare Racer pair well with the errata and my favorite fashion in the game. Even better than Jackie’s, maybe. Although the Valentino style does help it come off more punk.
Man, the bike stunts are awesome but feels moot considering there's so little oppurtunites to get decent airtime on a bike. There are hardly any ramps in the game besides some staircases that are to line up at high speeds.
Here is an idea for a vid, (Choo2, What is it, who makes it, who sells it.) I'm sure many players see it and go ???. - It's a fuel, Alcohol made from fermenting edible GMO sugary wheat. - The GMO patent is owned & licensed by an Agrochemical biotechnology corporation called Biotechnica. - Petrochem has a special almost monopolistic license to distribute Choo2. And has nearly a complete monopoly on pumping stations (At least in night city.) More than half of all Choo2 is sold by Petrochem. & it's license is renewed every 5 yrs. Where other Distributors/growers have to renew their license each year. - I think... My memory may be fuzzy on it. & things may be different in 2077 vs 2020.
So Cabriolet's tend to be heavier due to minor frame restructuring and the fact that a Cabrio's roof usually folds mechanically requiring additional substructures
Man I just realized I'm not subbed to the channel and felt terrible 😅 I'm not one to sub to everything but this dudes been making quality cyberpunk content for as long as I can remember the game being released. My bad brother 😂
I hope the next cyberpunk is based once again, in Night City...only possible difference being dependent on whether or not it takes places before or after the year 2077 where I'd like for Night City to obviously have changes such as buildings that were under construction in 2077 have been finished in the next game, or if it's in the past to have all the stuff that was destroyed in the second corporate war be in prime condition etc. Point being I want and I think if people thought about it I think most people should want a cyberpunk series that basically always takes place in Night City. Having it become a place that you get to know like home but at the same time having different areas that you go to for different missions different buildings that open up where you go into apartments and warehouses that you hadn't been to before. TLDR I just want to see a cyberpunk series that takes place in/has the same map of Night City as in 2077 but adjusted for the year whether in the future or in the past. So it can be a place that you know but is evolving or for lack of a better word devolving if it's prior to 2077 whatever entry it is. I would love that. I read an article that gave me this opinion and one of the main points of using the same map of Night City is not only would it be cool in my opinion it would also make game development much easier to where they can focus more on actual gameplay and mechanics because instead of just taking an amazing map like Night City using it once and then never using it again, they could make the small adjustments needed for what year it takes place in and also where the next entries main story line and side missions take you within the high rises the back alleys the underground tunnels, the bad lands, apartments etc to meet new characters new gangs with changing territory lines from the street wars they are constantly battling. Or having a ghetto turned into a corpo and/or rich area literally like gentrification or the other way around where Rich neighborhoods fall into poverty. I can just see myself falling in love with my city or essentially never falling out of love with it because we wouldn't have to say hi & bye to Night City where it lived and died in 2077 and that was it. But only getting to know it better, feeling like Night City is YOUR city. Creating a sense of an attachment to it, and even pride about it from your "street knowledge" not even needing the map because you just know where you are in general. It definitely wouldn't have to be for every entry and thinking about it I don't know if I would want it to be but if they were maybe to just have every third release be a different map like New York or somewhere like Colorado with a city but also mountains for a change of pace. BUT 100000% I will be so disappointed if the next cyberpunk is not set in Night City it's just too good of a map with so many things you can do based on the timeline and just opening up different areas and places with new characters. All this is obviously said with me assuming we're going to beat the odds and be lucky enough to have enough time to even play a Cyberpunk #2 by not having the *inevitable* sooner than later crash of the American dollar and/or "simply" having something like a war, emp, invasion of the US causing total anarchy/total societal collapse to even allow for 3, 5, or even 7 entries in the cyberpunk series. Sorry to end on a negative note but the truth is the truth it's not even a conspiracy we spoiled Americans just think we're invincible for so many reasons but what do you expect when the saying "what do men learn from history? That men never learn from history." Still rings true today just like it has for thousands of years lol. "Things will figure themselves out", "we are different" "we'll do it better this time" or the most common outlook of the average American with a goldfish's memory, attention span, and intelligence of "NO WAY AMERICA IS JUST GOING TO COLLAPSE BRO! LOL UR CRAZY" being said with absolutely nothing but emotions not evidence and known history (with how it does literally repeat itself over and over.) I'm get cynical so easy, obviously. SORRY. POINT: CDPR PLEEAAASSE make the next cyberpunk be based once again in Night City!!! That way it SHOULD be good to go from release day with a map I can continue to love and explore. Lol
I finished the game, then selected "one more gig' and upon reloading I got a call from Ashlay offering me the car from the twin netrunner quest. I haven't done her job yet, but it does seem like there's 1 more vehicle added from Phantom Liberty. Ah, I see it on B-tier. so this was phantom liberty and your vid was 2.1 added. my bad.,
Cabriolets almost always weigh more than their hard top counterparts due to the roof folding mechanisms and increased lower chassis stiffening to compensate for the loss of structural integrity from the roof. Also its pronounced Cab-Ree-Oh-Lay. Its not a ravioli lol
There is a message involving our Conspiracy Alien Theory hobo himself I found in the stacks tucked in a little alley between the clothing and med merchant you might be interested in if you haven't found it yet.
The new Porsche ruined my day. Downloaded some new mods, and started a new playthrough to try out a different LP and hopefully avoid the "Uninstalling Blood Pump" bug introduced in 2.1. Saw that a few new vehicles were unlocked in Act 1, including the new sports car...only to be told I need to leave Watson to get it... I just wish I didn't have to carjack Tygers to get access to a Shion, let alone a pretty one.
On a lark I took another loon at Autofixer, and suddenly there were a lot of nice cars for sale! My 2.02 savefile must have been glitched. Think I'm at 30 street cred give or take, and bought my Shion and Kusinagi. If I were richer I could have grabbed a Quadra Turbo R, but alas, wanted to progress the story more and see what options Corpo V has. IIRC my Nomad V had 43 SC and STILL couldn't buy a car that cost more than 40k until after the Heist. Now, if only we had a purple sports car, or even a paint shop either in game or selected at purchase...
They gave us different looking bikes with identical stats instead of vehicle transmog skins. I don't mind that we can't put a rocket launcher or a sentry gun on the Murkman Mobile but it would be nice if we can access different skins per car.
Jackie's Arch has always, and will always, be my favorite vehicle in the game. Not only is the Arch just an amazing bike in general, but I also miss Jackie, so having a memory of him in sweet wheels is always hella nice
This guy is gonna end up making a scanner hustle ranking
The last ranking will surely be junk items.
I dunno about all that but I wonder if there's enough clothes with stats for them to do a video
@@creepyto440ss6”indeed, the guitar pick is one of the more iconic of the junk items and, as such, has earned the 7th spot on the list”
I’m down with that
Hopefully
Makes sense that the Porsche is a little heavier, since convertibles usually need a reinforced chassis to make up for the lack of a roof
Was looking coms because I wanted to say the same thing, the reinfort are heavier than the roof so even this small detail is coherent
Yeah that makes sense now you say it tbf
Was just about to post this, but indeed that's why the convertible versions tend to be somewhat heavier. The chassis needs to be stiffened, as it tends to flex more due to the missing roof structure.
Yeah, Convertibles are always heavier than their Coupe versions.
@@ryanshoults123 I'm hoping to have ending vids for both PL and the base game before the year is out. We'll see how production goes
Funfact: Cabriolet usually have the same weight or are heavier than their normal coupe counterparts.
This is due to the fact that support struts are needed to prevent the frame from twisting/bending. So the new Porsche is pretty spot on. :D
Exactly. The roof is an important structural part of the car similar to bows on bridges. If you cut the roof, you need to compensate this by reinforce the vehicle floor. Due to how geometry is an important part for structural strength and a roofless car can't profit from geometry that much anymore, you need more reinforcing metal in the floor than you would need for a roof. In fact, that's why all racing cars are coupés and even hyper cars as well as all Porsche designed a little bit more for racing are also mostly coupés.
Just thought you should know, the Taigan can also be used to perform bike jumps, and since it holds 10 rounds at once they can be chained together. Tested it myself, and ended up accelerating fast enough to get stuck sideways in a wall, 10/10 transportation.
Ooh great to know! Thanks
I wish you could own a black Kusanagi. Fell in love immediately when I saw it on a random NCPD hustle. 😢
9:30 convertibles are usually heavier because removing the roof makes the frame a lot weaker so you have reinforce it, adding more weight.
You are just repeating the top comment, but nice timestamp.
I personally love the addition of another convertible. Especially in the first person perspective, with turned up ray tracing, makes driving through corporate plaza at night a whole different experience.
The "Peacekeeper" also has a different exhaust than all the other Kusanagi bikes. It looks like carbon fiber and has dual exhaust ports, 2 on each side. Personally, I'd put it in the S tier as I feel like it's a naked version of the CT3X, and I love naked bikes.
I'm so sad that we're likely done getting new stuff in CP'77. It's been awesome to watch the game grow over the past 3 years (although yes, it should have been a lot better at launch) and all the new features and collectables and secrets have kept the game relatively fresh and exciting. Phantom Liberty (like H of S and B & W before it) was one of the best expansions for any game, period. It's been a good run. Now we wait.
I hope the next cyberpunk is based once again, in Night City...only possible difference being dependent on whether or not it takes places before or after the year 2077 where I'd like for Night City to obviously have changes such as buildings that were under construction in 2077 have been finished in the next game, or if it's in the past to have all the stuff that was destroyed in the second corporate war be in prime condition etc.
Point being I want and I think if people thought about it I think most people should want a cyberpunk series that basically always takes place in Night City.
Having it become a place that you get to know like home but at the same time having different areas that you go to for different missions different buildings that open up where you go into apartments and warehouses that you hadn't been to before.
TLDR I just want to see a cyberpunk series that takes place in/has the same map of Night City as in 2077 but adjusted for the year whether in the future or in the past. So it can be a place that you know but is evolving or for lack of a better word devolving if it's prior to 2077 whatever entry it is.
I would love that.
I read an article that gave me this opinion and one of the main points of using the same map of Night City is not only would it be cool in my opinion it would also make game development much easier to where they can focus more on actual gameplay and mechanics because instead of just taking an amazing map like Night City using it once and then never using it again, they could make the small adjustments needed for what year it takes place in and also where the next entries main story line and side missions take you within the high rises the back alleys the underground tunnels, the bad lands, apartments etc to meet new characters new gangs with changing territory lines from the street wars they are constantly battling. Or having a ghetto turned into a corpo and/or rich area literally like gentrification or the other way around where Rich neighborhoods fall into poverty.
I can just see myself falling in love with my city or essentially never falling out of love with it because we wouldn't have to say hi & bye to Night City where it lived and died in 2077 and that was it.
But only getting to know it better, feeling like Night City is YOUR city.
Creating a sense of an attachment to it, and even pride about it from your "street knowledge" not even needing the map because you just know where you are in general.
It definitely wouldn't have to be for every entry and thinking about it I don't know if I would want it to be but if they were maybe to just have every third release be a different map like New York or somewhere like Colorado with a city but also mountains for a change of pace. BUT 100000% I will be so disappointed if the next cyberpunk is not set in Night City it's just too good of a map with so many things you can do based on the timeline and just opening up different areas and places with new characters.
All this is obviously said with me assuming we're going to beat the odds and be lucky enough to have enough time to even play a Cyberpunk #2 by not having the *inevitable* sooner than later crash of the American dollar and/or "simply" having something like a war, emp, invasion of the US causing total anarchy/total societal collapse to even allow for 3, 5, or even 7 entries in the cyberpunk series.
Sorry to end on a negative note but the truth is the truth it's not even a conspiracy we spoiled Americans just think we're invincible for so many reasons but what do you expect when the saying "what do men learn from history? That men never learn from history." Still rings true today just like it has for thousands of years lol.
"Things will figure themselves out", "we are different" "we'll do it better this time" or the most common outlook of the average American with a goldfish's memory, attention span, and intelligence of "NO WAY AMERICA IS JUST GOING TO COLLAPSE BRO! LOL UR CRAZY" being said with absolutely nothing but emotions not evidence and known history (with how it does literally repeat itself over and over.)
I'm get cynical so easy, obviously. SORRY.
POINT: CDPR PLEEAAASSE make the next cyberpunk be based once again in Night City!!! That way it SHOULD be good to go from release day with a map I can continue to love and explore. Lol
I found a neat trick to accelerate even faster with the new motorcycle mechanics. If you lean forward while accelerating, you’ll take weight off of the back wheel and allow it to speed up. When you stop leaning the back wheel will push you forward. Not sure how much it helps over the long run but I figured I’d throw it out there in case anyone finds it useful
Arch is the motorcycle company Keanu Reeves helped found.
I really like the kusanagi peacekeeper because it's blue and black, perfect for me. I like this update for the new bikes but i wish we have customization for changing the red kusanagi to black or blue.
What you talking about? It's white and gold!
Z3X is still on top for me, although I really like Jackies arch a lot too.
The new cabriolet is too tacky imho. What I love about the original, is how it felt like a contrast to the time of 2077, tho I still don't like driving it.
Me, I was hoping for a speed daemon MC to rival Caliburn , but in stead I removed CP2077.
I want to have the option to revisit the game later, and feel like I still got things I haven't done in game.
Thanks for completing the vehicle list Sam
If you were the one who did that sequence of flips at 0:20, I tip my hat to you sir
My favorite car is still the Riptide "Terrier." Entirely for the style of the roof folding up to enter it, makes me feel like getting in the cockpit of an x-wing. Also the dash looks awesome. I've had this weird relationship with vehicles in 2077, where I started using only bikes due to the handling... and now try to do first person car driving as much as I can for the sheer ambiance. The detail they put into the dashboards of these cars is amazing.
For that, the Terrier has a really good field of view with the way the window sits, though the Caliburn has better handling and similar view. Caliburn would win everything if it wasn't for the inability to shoot forwards while driving.
David Yellow Jacket will combine amazingly with that new Porsche
Tried it and it fit like a glove. Made me think this would have been his car had things played differently...
My favourite Cyberpunk vreator rn
I'm going to love the Kobold! Thank you :)
The Porche's weight, thats actually rather common for convertible versions of cars to be heavier. They require more rigidity in the chassis to make up for the lost rigidity of not having a solid roof, the added weight of that is more then whats lost by removing the roof.
I can imagine if Johnny Silverman went full merk an got the relic instead. How do you think that would turn out. In my opinion it would be more comedic at the start of the game then it becomes a don't meet your hero it only leads to disappointment deal.
another amazing ranking, thanks SamBram!
Fun fact, cabriolets in real life are generally heavier than their coupe/sedan counterparts, since the roof actually serves as an important structural member of a vehicle, and removing it necessitates other areas of the frame to be reinforced. Since this is a far less efficient method of stiffening a vehicle's chassis, they weigh more but even still exhibit more chassis flex than the models with roofs. Triangles for the win.
Fun Fact about the Nazare Racer: The headlights are absolutely blood RED. On a whim I went about turning on the rim lights, wound up turning on the headlights by accident and noticed everything in front of me was bathed in a crazy deep red. That and its overall design really won me over. It looks absolutely amazing. It's fast and manueaverable enough that I don't feel I'm missing out using it.
Peacekeeper all the way, pair it with the iconic NCPD jacket, V's pants, combat boots and the silver raybans and you can RP bad cop all day.
If only the Peacekeeper came in black... If only we had customization 😢
9:30 despite not having a roof the car has to be fitted with a more reinforced chassis to support the convertible feature, therefore making the car heavier
Jackie’s Arch is my GOAT Bike. I do like the new ones though. The Nazare and Peacekeeper are my favorite.
i absolutely love the peacekeeper, best bike ngl
The Nazare is my new fave; especially with the red headlight.
Arch nazare racer is the closest looking bike to Pattinson's batbike. Kusanagi is more Bale's or Affleck's batbike model.
The cabriolet is heavier for a reason like how the actual Porsche 930 Targa and Cabrio are heavier than the coupe and that actually goes the same ways for all cabrios.
Due to lacking a solid roof, there's no connecting pillars to the actual chassis like a normal car thru A, B or sometimes C-pillars so to remedy that, carmakers had to strengthen the core of the chassis by running more bars to prevent twisting and chassis flex due to the lack of a structural support now. That in return increases weight for almost every cabriolet in the market against their coupe counterpart, same goes to the 930 Cabriolet here.
Damn, I still hope there would be patch with more stockalike car variants and two more Apolos (one with that sleek hood and dual lights that Pablo Jumper had, one with all the transport boxes that Altecaldos use)...
I want me some base Merrimac, some Mackinaw Larimore, a Shion Targa, a non-rallye Quartz, a solar-powered non-widebody Hella, a pre-facelift Maimai, a junker/drift missile Maimai, a non-widebody Deleon, a clean sporty GA32 Galena, a non-stripped-down Supron, a non-riced Hozouki, a base-eddition Riptide (with those 70's Dodge Challenger-ish rear lights), a Caliburn without aftermarket wheels, an Aerondight with mesh concave wheels, a Alvarado with mesh wheels... Cars that I already see on the streets of Night City in trafic but ones that I am unable to get...
Bro 😂😂I’m begging you every time I see you dropped a video I feel hyped please do a rifle ranking haha
I wanted a black akira but I guess I'll go with the other for my Ghost Rider look :)
Honestly as much as I love the new bikes I was kind of hoping for another caliburn variant or rayfield vehicle. By far my favorite manufacturer.
Nice little fact about the new Porche's weight:
Convertables are generally heavier than the regular roof, as they need to hold enough fabric in an exrra compartment, both of which add weight, as opposed to heavin a regular roof of lighter materials.
Most of cabriolet cars are a litle bit heavier since they need to stiffen the chassi.
6:11 I can think of a couple reasons as to why bikes aren’t allowed, 1. Normally they require 2 people in one vehicle, one for driving and the other for shooting at other racers (of course the exception has been given to V due to the fact that V can easily drive and shoot at once which is part of the reason on what brings me to #2) and as we know, none of the bikes in this game have 2 seats, and 2. Bikes are generally harder to race against because bikes are generally a lot faster than most vehicles
Also a bike is alot smaller and nimbler than a giant ass car, you'd have an advantage since you are harder to hit.
I regularly switch between the CT3X and the Peacekeeper bikes mainly because I like both equally.
I have a good video for you Sam: Guaranteed basic 5++ Melee weapons with 2 empty slots. Right now it's impossible in game to save scum one because the rarity always changes, but NCPD scanner hustles ALWAYS drop the same ITEM and it will ALWAYS have a set rarity based on your level. Theres a scanner hustle with 2 punk knives in north east rancho coranado, a few minutes of save scumming you can get a 5++ punk knife with 2 mod slots. Huge for someone on PS5 or Xbox that can't mod. I'm sure theres a scanner hustle with a guaranteed Katana drop somewhere.
Pleasseeeee release another lore video soon. Definitely my favorite content of yours. Plus no one else does it the way you do
I think some futuristic dystopian M.C. type raised handle bars, crazy design, long front forks, straight arms gripping the handlebars, etc would be SICK.
Happy 3 year anniversary chooms
Convertibles are heavier than cars with a roof because it is a structural component, without it the thing needs reinforcements on its sides and bottom, where it is the least efficient to do so in regards to the stresses that they are trying to reinforce to.
The sounds are important too
This guy is awesome in all reality. Most people cant articulate little details clearly enough to listen to. Hes awesome for baldurs gate also.
9:33 but a hefty amount of chassis strengthening.
You see, convertibles that are not designed from the ground up as such will lose a lot of structural integrity upon the removal of the roof, which needs to be compensated for by stiffening the chassis and bodywork (often through running extra cross bracing in the floor, or the doors.
The weight of those reinforcements is sufficient that most convertible versions of fixed roof models are in fact heavier (and in the past a lot softer and more wallowy).
you don't know what you're talking about lol my miata is way lighter then my friends rx8 and thats literally a hardtop miata
@@metadata4255 Not a good way to start a comment full of misreading what I have said and being factually incorrect.
First - the MX5 or Miata is designed from the ground up as a Roadster. It is built in a way that doesn’t require additional strengthening being put in, because it never was meant to have a fixed roof to begin with. Furthermore it is a roadster. Characterised by having only two seats, and being meant to be driven predominantly with the roof down. That is a different type of car altogether. Plus, it’s very small. Not a lot of area that hangs freely between the wheels, which naturally aids structural integrity.
Second - the RX8 is a four door (2+2 door actually) Coupé with more space for passengers and luggage, and it’s geared more towards everyday driving and the compromises that entails. (More luxuries like air conditioning, sound dampening, electronics… Few weight saving measures)
And if you meant to write RX7, which would make a lot more sense, that is its own platform as well. It never had a convertible version and was meant to compete against front engined sports cars of its time, for example the Porsche 944. And it is exactly in the required weight class for that.
Take a Bentley Continental for example. That one was designed as a Coupé first, and only after was given a convertible version. As a result the convertible is around 130-200kg heavier than the fixed roof variant. It has a long wheelbase which requires additional bracing so it doesn’t flex as much, and also doesn’t just straight up break in half.
An MX5 is the complete opposite in every way. Plus it doesn’t have a mechanism to raise the roof, or a very small one in the newer models, and the old ones lack additional bracing in the roof to make it secure in the event of a rollover.
To summarise… please read my comment again (and thoroughly), it is factually correct. Also let me know if it is an RX8 or RX7 (both excellent choices, I love those, and I love MX5s as well!).
I really like that white Apollo I just wish they had upped the cost and horsepower a bit. Black and blue Kusanagi is 👌🏼
Did you consider making a subjective tierlist of radio stations?
Yes. I will. Somewhen :)
Drop tops are heavier, because they need braces to make them as sturdy/rigid as cars with roofs. The body is compromised when you remove the roof.
I wish we could get the murdered out Kusanagi from the scanner hustle in the parking building near Judy's.
Spent nearly 500 hours in this game and oh my god if u havent made this video i never would have known that there is a 2nd porsche holy sht, most of my cars nowadays come from mods so i barely ever go to autofixer, well certainly i had no idea they would add more cars/bikes to the game, wow just wow awesome 😂
The cabriolet being heavier makes sense because the lack of a solid roof meant the other parts of the car need to be strengthened in order to maintain its rigidity. You see that all the time in real life cars, Porsches included.
The thing of the cabriolet being heavier is the roof, needing mechanical engines to move the tarp roof, that's why it's a tad heavier!
Excellent ranking, thank you Sam, 👍👍👍
Thank you John!
Convertibles are always heavier than the standard model as the frame/chassis has to be stronger due to less structural integrity since there's being no roof.
Thank you Sam.
I use the Peacekeeper along with the Crimestopper to role play a cop. Badge set is a must.
Armed outlaw from El Capitan is one of my go tos now after the Arasaka med truck mission
The Porsche Cabriolet is such a cool addition to the game. Its a performance car that lets you see your character and the handling of the Porsches in this game is top tier so when driving around in the city it has nearly replaced bikes for me. Also as someone who has just started a new playthrough you can buy it as early as the start of Act 2! Which means unlike Johnny's Porsche you can enjoy it for the majority of your playthrough if your willing to cough up $75,000 for it.
9:33 Convertible versions of cars will be heavier than the roofed versions of cars because the body of convertibles have to be reinforced to deal with the lack of a roof which would provide structural rigidity.
I like the Peacekeeper's sound a lot more than the basic Kusanagi's, it's so much less noisy but still has that power racer bike's feel to it
Which is least noisy motorcycle?
Do we have silent electric motorcycles?
How about ranking vehicles that are no obtainable, trucks for example
I think the Apollo 650 S is an hommage to Tetsuo's bike from the 1988 anime movie, Akira
Do I see Quickybaby style Tier Table? Like it! Like you vids and style too! Subscribed!
Guess they made it like actual drop tops... need more structure in the sides and undercarriage bc no b, or c pillars. So drop tops will be heavier than their roof counterparts.
The Porsche is also the best looking car that is really easy to drive in 1st person view in the game.
Oh if ye did not know they added 10 iconic weapons of a form to 2.1 from the air drops or form the illegal weapon vender in Dogtown you can buy or get the Amazon weapons for all players, and There is also 3 new X-mod 2 weapons one is a claw melee on top of the black pyramid building that Hands is at, behind before said building there is a crashed helicopter that ye need 10 body to get a LMG MA70 x-mod, also the building east of the black sapphire on the second level there is a small cramped path that leads to a room that has an Achilles x-mod2 weapon gold, and last near the dam in Aroyyo there is a guy up there with a black version of the weapon from venus and furs weapon, but it is the BFM 9000. I hope this helps.
Cabrio porche or any cabrio version of any car is heavier than the regular one because the base of cabriolets is reinforced with thicker steel for structural purposes because they got no roof.
I’m still tear assing Night City in my Quartz Specter. Only downside is the kickback in the exhaust, but it’s fast, agile, and has guns!
Interesting observation, the colour scheme for the Porsche seems to be an inversion of the Joest Racing New Man Porsche 956/962 Le Mans winners from the mid 1980's.
Man I did the same thing with the Errata. Looks incredible, especially at night.
6:19 I guess the previous owner was a NUSA Air Force veteran, you can see the Air Force rondel below the handlebars.
The Apollo Sport is by far the best handling vehicle in the game.
I always thought the Corvette would be a better fit for Johnny silverhand than the 911 ever was
I haven’t played since the new patch dropped but my god will that Nazare Racer pair well with the errata and my favorite fashion in the game. Even better than Jackie’s, maybe. Although the Valentino style does help it come off more punk.
Nazare racer and kusanagi peacekeeper is my favorite vehicles
Please do an unobtainable vehicles tier list! Like the larger trucks, Basalisk, and NCPD vehicles.
Man, the bike stunts are awesome but feels moot considering there's so little oppurtunites to get decent airtime on a bike. There are hardly any ramps in the game besides some staircases that are to line up at high speeds.
I wish we had gotten more of the CT3x model in different colors tbh
Here is an idea for a vid, (Choo2, What is it, who makes it, who sells it.) I'm sure many players see it and go ???.
- It's a fuel, Alcohol made from fermenting edible GMO sugary wheat.
- The GMO patent is owned & licensed by an Agrochemical biotechnology corporation called Biotechnica.
- Petrochem has a special almost monopolistic license to distribute Choo2. And has nearly a complete monopoly on pumping stations (At least in night city.) More than half of all Choo2 is sold by Petrochem. & it's license is renewed every 5 yrs. Where other Distributors/growers have to renew their license each year.
- I think... My memory may be fuzzy on it. & things may be different in 2077 vs 2020.
Can you rank the top 10 reasons my dad left? In cyberpunk of course
"To get milk" is probably up there somewhere
So Cabriolet's tend to be heavier due to minor frame restructuring and the fact that a Cabrio's roof usually folds mechanically requiring additional substructures
Man I just realized I'm not subbed to the channel and felt terrible 😅 I'm not one to sub to everything but this dudes been making quality cyberpunk content for as long as I can remember the game being released. My bad brother 😂
I hope the next cyberpunk is based once again, in Night City...only possible difference being dependent on whether or not it takes places before or after the year 2077 where I'd like for Night City to obviously have changes such as buildings that were under construction in 2077 have been finished in the next game, or if it's in the past to have all the stuff that was destroyed in the second corporate war be in prime condition etc.
Point being I want and I think if people thought about it I think most people should want a cyberpunk series that basically always takes place in Night City.
Having it become a place that you get to know like home but at the same time having different areas that you go to for different missions different buildings that open up where you go into apartments and warehouses that you hadn't been to before.
TLDR I just want to see a cyberpunk series that takes place in/has the same map of Night City as in 2077 but adjusted for the year whether in the future or in the past. So it can be a place that you know but is evolving or for lack of a better word devolving if it's prior to 2077 whatever entry it is.
I would love that.
I read an article that gave me this opinion and one of the main points of using the same map of Night City is not only would it be cool in my opinion it would also make game development much easier to where they can focus more on actual gameplay and mechanics because instead of just taking an amazing map like Night City using it once and then never using it again, they could make the small adjustments needed for what year it takes place in and also where the next entries main story line and side missions take you within the high rises the back alleys the underground tunnels, the bad lands, apartments etc to meet new characters new gangs with changing territory lines from the street wars they are constantly battling. Or having a ghetto turned into a corpo and/or rich area literally like gentrification or the other way around where Rich neighborhoods fall into poverty.
I can just see myself falling in love with my city or essentially never falling out of love with it because we wouldn't have to say hi & bye to Night City where it lived and died in 2077 and that was it.
But only getting to know it better, feeling like Night City is YOUR city.
Creating a sense of an attachment to it, and even pride about it from your "street knowledge" not even needing the map because you just know where you are in general.
It definitely wouldn't have to be for every entry and thinking about it I don't know if I would want it to be but if they were maybe to just have every third release be a different map like New York or somewhere like Colorado with a city but also mountains for a change of pace. BUT 100000% I will be so disappointed if the next cyberpunk is not set in Night City it's just too good of a map with so many things you can do based on the timeline and just opening up different areas and places with new characters.
All this is obviously said with me assuming we're going to beat the odds and be lucky enough to have enough time to even play a Cyberpunk #2 by not having the *inevitable* sooner than later crash of the American dollar and/or "simply" having something like a war, emp, invasion of the US causing total anarchy/total societal collapse to even allow for 3, 5, or even 7 entries in the cyberpunk series.
Sorry to end on a negative note but the truth is the truth it's not even a conspiracy we spoiled Americans just think we're invincible for so many reasons but what do you expect when the saying "what do men learn from history? That men never learn from history." Still rings true today just like it has for thousands of years lol.
"Things will figure themselves out", "we are different" "we'll do it better this time" or the most common outlook of the average American with a goldfish's memory, attention span, and intelligence of "NO WAY AMERICA IS JUST GOING TO COLLAPSE BRO! LOL UR CRAZY" being said with absolutely nothing but emotions not evidence and known history (with how it does literally repeat itself over and over.)
I'm get cynical so easy, obviously. SORRY.
POINT: CDPR PLEEAAASSE make the next cyberpunk be based once again in Night City!!! That way it SHOULD be good to go from release day with a map I can continue to love and explore. Lol
"Surprisingly heavier despite not having a roof"
You know what happens to a car's chassis when you just hack off its roof without reinforcing it?
I finished the game, then selected "one more gig' and upon reloading I got a call from Ashlay offering me the car from the twin netrunner quest. I haven't done her job yet, but it does seem like there's 1 more vehicle added from Phantom Liberty. Ah, I see it on B-tier. so this was phantom liberty and your vid was 2.1 added. my bad.,
I was really hoping they would add an armored weaponized Porsche for this update but no such luck
I've yet to find a 4 wheeled car that isn't hopelessly tail happy. The Scorpion bike is all you need.
Cabriolets almost always weigh more than their hard top counterparts due to the roof folding mechanisms and increased lower chassis stiffening to compensate for the loss of structural integrity from the roof.
Also its pronounced Cab-Ree-Oh-Lay. Its not a ravioli lol
Subbed. Please make a ranking of all motorcycles with 0-60s. 🙂
Nazare Racer got strong Streethawk vibes
I wish they would've added the pink & blue Kusanagi you can find at the Phantom Of Night City cyberpsycho sighting.
Peacekeeper is my go to. It has a Captn America vibe
There is a message involving our Conspiracy Alien Theory hobo himself I found in the stacks tucked in a little alley between the clothing and med merchant you might be interested in if you haven't found it yet.
The new Porsche ruined my day.
Downloaded some new mods, and started a new playthrough to try out a different LP and hopefully avoid the "Uninstalling Blood Pump" bug introduced in 2.1. Saw that a few new vehicles were unlocked in Act 1, including the new sports car...only to be told I need to leave Watson to get it...
I just wish I didn't have to carjack Tygers to get access to a Shion, let alone a pretty one.
On a lark I took another loon at Autofixer, and suddenly there were a lot of nice cars for sale! My 2.02 savefile must have been glitched. Think I'm at 30 street cred give or take, and bought my Shion and Kusinagi. If I were richer I could have grabbed a Quadra Turbo R, but alas, wanted to progress the story more and see what options Corpo V has.
IIRC my Nomad V had 43 SC and STILL couldn't buy a car that cost more than 40k until after the Heist.
Now, if only we had a purple sports car, or even a paint shop either in game or selected at purchase...
On a new save after the update I grinded for the 911 before the heist and it let me spend the money but I couldn’t reach the quest till after rip
I'd say the next ranking should be finishers but they don't seem to work quite right now.
I love how the NCPD choose to use the slowest motorcycle in the game. 😆
They gave us different looking bikes with identical stats instead of vehicle transmog skins. I don't mind that we can't put a rocket launcher or a sentry gun on the Murkman Mobile but it would be nice if we can access different skins per car.
Jackie's Arch has always, and will always, be my favorite vehicle in the game. Not only is the Arch just an amazing bike in general, but I also miss Jackie, so having a memory of him in sweet wheels is always hella nice