The Eurofighter does hold some edge over the F-22. But is it useful?
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If the Typhoon ever finds itself engaged with the F-22... Something has gone terribly wrong somewhere.
America would get raped by Europe
We have no chance against them, a whole ocean and shitty port cities
Reject false Democracy..... Another TH-cam military expert
Tyler Benson stupid patriots, us army is merely a proxy of Israel
They are specifically geared to combat foreign insurgents that stand against greater Israel
America has no national pride, the only pride we have is the gay pride
Tyler Benson - rejected as advised. He certainly seems...confused.
@@stonnerwaffendivision189 You must've been dropped as a baby. Haha
Raptor was designed for air superiority, it was not meant for ground attack, those capabilities are more of an afterthought on the F_22.
Yet in practice that's the thing they are mainly used for, the time of dogfights is long gone... Would be too much of a superexpensive plane if it was only used for "air superiority"...
@@bekeneel Air superiority does not mean dogfighting, it means taking control of the sky over a certain area. The Raptor excels in this role because of its stealth capabilities and its BVRAAMs.
@@thatonetexan1950 Air superiority means squat if there is SAM coverage such as with the Russian S400.
@@EroticOnion23 that's why they never go alone. also the F-35 now also exists that can do both roles pretty damn well. even tho it is slower.
Not a pound for air to ground!
Awesome video!
Can you do video tb2 drones sometime
Why does this have not that many likes and replies-
Unfortunately he didnt show how PIRATE really works, its not an simple IR tracking system and can even detect planes with IR supression.
Next lets have a Fairey Swordfish vs Sukhoi Su-35
Dude, are you dumb? that's so one sided it's not even funny.
You need _at least_ 10 Su-35s to make this even close to a fair fight. A swordfish could take out an F22 no problem.
A single Swordfish was actually the aircraft that nuked Nagasaki and Hiroshima, the American's said it was b-29s because they were intimidated by it so much
only po-2 can win swordfish
@@Sir_Budginton F16 vs Mig21
Bismarck is having a nam flashback moments
A mock battle was recently held between the German and American forces.
One F22 took out 4 German fighters and the German pilots commented that the only time they knew the F22 was there was when the F22 pilot did an inverted overhead pass, just to show them he was there.
F22 in an air superiority role is unmatched.
Source?
"Nah bro, see, the F-22 ain't all that good. It's like, just a little better than the F-35. Nothing special bro."
and the F-35..? it's nothin special either.
(only scoring a 78:1 kill ratio in Red Flag vs Gen 4.5 + AWACS) ... see? it's about even.
78:1 may be misleading. but why would the US keep the most expensive fighter if it's only at parity with a multi--role F-35 ..?
But, if it's "nothing special," WHY NOT EXPORT IT? The Typhoon IS exported as is the F-35 (which has DOMINANT SA at Red Flag).
IS the claim that, _they were lying_ about the 78:1 ..? (Hazard, F-35 pilot's quoted as saying that; & expanded by saying, it was done by a rookie!)
Somehow, a 4.5? 4th Gen? Has parity with a jet every nation _eligible to buy,_ IS BUYING, that's [the] _most expensive military project in history ?_
Which is STILL inferior to the F-22 ..! But! The Typhoon is _just about equal._ ...?? fucking nonsense. WE. HAVE. NO. DATA.
DCS does NOT count.
It's a GAAAAAME.
(Otherwise fucking pilots should beat non-pilots.)
@@trumanhw you know I always hear people talking about how the F-35 was spotted but never about how the Fat Amy's still wiped the floor with everything else. Always hear about how a Rafale pilot got a simulated kill on a Raptor but never about the endless upon endless engagements when Raptors made Rafales and Typhoons look hopelessly outdated. Lockheed Martin burns through money at an insane rate (not as bad as Northrop though) but they've delivered 2 jets that are literally 50 to 100 times better than anything any other NATO supplier has come up with.
@@trumanhw I may be stupid but I cant tell if you're being sarcastic or not.
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Very good video.
And let's not forget, in a real world scenario, both planes would likely be working together.
As it stands today yes.
But considering its Operated by Kuwait,Saudi Arabia,Oman and Qatar its not impossible that they might face eachother if US relations with the nations of the Arabian Peninsula ever worsened.
@@Mattebubben That will only happen when the oil America needs runs out and by then both these aircraft will have been retired.
@@tsu8003 in the Persian Gulf, America would only step in to help stabilize the world economy / world supply of oil. America is already swimming in its own oil based on its own domestic production.
www.cnbc.com/2019/03/11/us-threatens-to-topple-saudi-arabia-as-worlds-top-oil-exporter-iea.html
@@ssranon I don't know about that. The US consumes a lot of oil per day (19 million barrels a day) and its proven reserves are around 35 billion barrels.
@@ddaazahh8064 The U.S. is now the largest exporter of oil in the world.
These two jets would never face each other, but I certainly pity those who end up on the business end of them. A mixed squadron of these would be an absolute nightmare to deal with regardless if if it's air to air or air to ground.
Oh, very much so. The Raptors could engage at a much higher range, and because of their stealth, the enemy thinks they're facing a squadron or so of Typhoons, only to find the ordinance used against them is double or triple what they had estimated. The Typhoon could also handle any ground targets/radars, whilst the Raptors focus on engaging air targets.
Mixed squadrons is what the USAF has in mind for the F-22/F-35 and the new F-15X. The former guide the latter in while giving them air cover.
Someone never realized that in war captured vehicles are commonly put into service
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Very good video:)
One thing you missed on the Typhoon is the Iris-T IR Missle. It can engange Targets even if they are behind the Typhoon and can be used as an Hardkill System that shot down incoming missles, that are being tracked by the defence system of the Typhoon
I'm always amazed just how good the typhoon is.
When us Europeans build, we build well
@@themc.kennyshow6585 same in North America heres too many more years of working together
Well to be fair, the F22 is supposed to be an air superiority fighter, while the typhoon is supposed to be multi-role.
But also designed originally for air superiority.
Bullshit, it was always supposed to be air to air. No compromise has been made for air to ground
How is the Typhoon working out? I haven't read much about it's combat performance.
@Charlie Skelton It's as multirole as Greece's and Turkeys F-16s. Not at all, but they can carry munitions. Simple as that. I'm 100% correct in everything I said, multirole in use, pure air to air in design as is the Raptor.
Itachi21x F22 wings already asserted their air dominance at that point :D
In fact, earliest planes already asserted their dominance way before we ever tried
Huh, so no Russian phrase in the beginning. You're loosing your brand, Binkov. You thought we wouldn't notice?! 0:01
Binkov is actually from Uberslavia.
@@danmorgan3685 Source? 😂
Binkov mentioned it in the comment section of an early video. I'm so not digging that deep for proof.
@@danmorgan3685 Thanks. 😘
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Question: Eurofighter vs Raptor: Who Wins?
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".....Less than 50 percent of F-22 Raptors are available and ready for service".
@@geesehoward700 Well yeah, no military at peace keeps its ENTIRE force ready to deploy, many are reserves
Jurassic world reference?
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Glad I found this channel. You give very good insight into some of the scenarios I've considered.
Considering the Raptor was built strictly as an air to air Fighter, the ground supremacy of the Typhoon goes without saying. Perhaps a comparison with the F35 (if you need a stealth airframe) would be better.
myplane150 exactly what I was thinking. F-22 is an escort and air-to-Air interceptor
@DaH8ter There was no such requirement nor was it designed for deep strike missions in an air to surface role. The F-22 can't carry anything larger than a Mk.83 class bomb because it's weapons bay was designed for air to air missiles, not bombs, and it didn't even have air to ground capabilities until 2011.
There's so much information in these videos especially the annotations, it's great!
Not a bad comparison overall, I liked the objectivity of the review and mentioning the "sekrit Docum3nts!" that all countries hold over their "cutting edge" weapons tech. Will have to check out some more of your videos to see what you've worked on, +1 sub! :)
Georgia the state vs Georgia the country! 1 like=1 peach pie
vs Georgia the Battleship vs Georgia the exotic film star
Hilarious how uneven they fight would be.
Yeah Ga the state....go bull dogs
If only 1 year was given for the war, Georgia the state might actually have a chance. The troops could simply retreat into the mountains and swamps and fight guerilla style, which would bog down and potentially demoralize the soldiers from Georgia the country. Any longer, however, and the state would eventually fall. (This whole scenario assumes that paramilitary, like police and sheriffs, as well as Reservists and National Guardsmen engage in direct combat as well. No rebellions from local populace occur in this scenario, however.)
@@unclejoeoakland That's Why I said that any longer than a year and the State of Georgia might fall to the Country.
" Eurofighter was designed to be multirole "
*chuckles in french*
Yeah. Both rafale and Saab grippen are better as a multirole
Edit: these both are lighter and maneuverable
Well it is multirole is highly capable in it especially now. Also I would argue the rafale is cheaper but far from better.
@@jakehayes1998 Wrong.
@Vladimir Putin lmao designed to surrender in the air
@@bendu49100 okay...
I love this channel! :) Thanks Binkov!
Pure research and analysis for it's own sake.
Good work.
I know a RAF Sgt who was at Groom Lake and he said in battle situations the EuroFighter Typhoon held its own very well.
And 4 GAF typhoons slaughtered 4 F-22 in a red flag exercise a few years ago in a visual range only dogfight. And given that in many future coalition wars visual id is going to be an necessity to avoid "blue on blue" incidents, I think ROE might very well hinder the F22
@@FelixstoweFoamForge eh the typhons started with advantage positions. I.e behind them. Lol the f22 would r4pe typhoons before thr typhoon even saw it.
@@Bornst3ll3r Hey, I can remember the first gulf war back in 1991, visual id was part of the ROE and I can envisage it being a part of coalition warfare in the future. Being almost invisible on radar is no use if there's so many friendly aircraft in the theater of operations that you have to get within visual range before being cleared to engage. And yeah, getting into a position of advantage is what every good intercept should be aiming for. Shoot them in the back and run away before their mates can react.
@@Bornst3ll3r ? you are a cunt. youre mums a cunt, and gobbles dick like the cheap fat whore she is. ive see it do it. raptor is a gimmick.
@@kylitoooooo looooool are you mad
So, given that F-22 is NOT available to any country but the US, the Typhoon defaults to the better option for anyone in the market for a better bang for their buck, with the added benefit of having a superior multi-role platform. All in all, the Typhoon is a damn fine plane!
What a great little video. Thank you.
Both are beautiful, fantastic machines.
spoon vs katana next since we are doing miss-matches
Aaron Robertson I think the spoon would win. Despite its the lack of reach and lethality the spoon is designed for soup combat while the katana is used save the life of a noble horseman.
EmperorLionflame it’s the other way around tbh
@@kilmentvoroshilov2827 no
Knowing the quality of the metal used on spoon, it could go against a katana. A fork however will be a war crime, not only it able to hold a swing of a katana, it could hold the sword down alowing the user to beat up the opponent which have been unarmed.
@@notsoprofessionalweeb *laughs in glock*
You know in an all out crazy war its actually unbelievable how even with these modern missiles, things would probably escalate, or maybe descend or be a better word into cannon engagements. I think a good cannon and manoeuvrability is underrated these days.
Devolve. When a fight goes to primitive weapons we say the fight devolved.
god all this work you put into your videos binkov keep it up
Last year there were lots of reports of manoeuvres between the American and the German Air Force in Alaska where the EF roundly beat the F-22.
The caveat being that these were dog fights using the gun only. The EF was more manoeuvrable being designed for exactly that whereas the F-22 was also designed for stealth.
In a real combat situation, this difference would be even greater due to the superior air2air missiles you mentioned. The reason for that is that after the German reunification, the German Air Force inherited some Mig-29s from Eastern Germany that had missiles that were way more advanced than anything the West had. So instead of continuing to improve the AMRAAM system, Germany developed a new missile system.
Having said all that, you are correct that the F-22 is probably still the superior fighter due to its stealth capabilities and the superior radar. In real life, the F-22 would do everything to stay as far away from the enemy as possible and not engage in dog fights so that it can best play its cards.
However, technological advances in missile defense could nullify that advantage and increase the likelihood of dogfights again. Apparently there is a lot going on in that direction right now. The US Air Force recently announced some successful tests of laser defense systems that can be mounted on planes. For the time being, the F-22 should still have the advantage though.
Well, considering that the F-22 isn't available for export, there is no reason for any other country to consider Raptor.
Part of why it was cancelled.
I think we shoud have a war series something like a ww3 hypothesis
@voodoo star I hope not but Trump is behaving very recklessly and has surrounded himself with some mentally unstable people.
@TheReal RedWolfofDeath You're an idiot. Pakistan (a majority Muslim country) has had nuclear weapons for years and you never seemed to have noticed.
How was the *treaty* signed by the US and Iran illegal? I mean exactly not just that it hurt your feelings.
All I know is that the F22 and F35 and even the F15 look just spectacular.
Whoever is designing the shapes, keep doing what you're doing US! It looks very nice!
Very detailed analysis 👍
Need to play Ace Combat after watching this
I mean... 7 is out, so... Go play it?
@T2 Agressivo That's your excuse? How... Casual.
@Agressive F4 Phantom still fun
Actually.. i talked to some pilots about the "Red Flag" exercise. The Pilots said they had HUGE respect for each other. In other words there were a lot of ties.
they always say that. even if they killed them off at a rate of 90 to 1.
whats he say to the reporter?
" yes the other side were great pilots who used their aircraft in amazing ways and flew in a very professional manner, We have a great deal of respect for them and learned a lot from each other".
@@stanburk7392 Depending on the situation the Raptors were put in the Eurofighters came out ontop in a few of them. google "Raptor Salad" or "Raptor Salat" 2011 Red Flag.
In an excessive in Alaska, with Air Force and Navy planes, I think Raptors racked up a tally of over 100 kills to only two losses. Impresive plane.
They compliment each other excellently.
Pretty decent analysis. One thing that is not mentioned, however, is that typically, because of its stealth, F-22s are able to get to the merge (WVR combat) in extremely favorable position, i.e. at the enemy's six o'clock, unlike your graphics which show the merge happening head-on. F-22's very often get their WVR kills completely unobserved by the target, and that makes superior maneuverability or helmet-mounted sights a moot point. Also, while Meteor is indeed a significantly better missile than AIM-120D as far as range and maneuvering potential at long range, the fact that the F-22 can launch its missiles from far higher supercruise speeds helps offset a lot of that advantage (though I suspect not all). It's not a huge deal anyway given the fact that Typhoon won't detect a Raptor until far too late.
In Red Flag type exercises, yes the F22 can get into a "favorable position". But this is night on impossible in a real combat situation as it would mean the F22 would need to fly behing the enemy putting it in the way of SAMs
@@pacus123LOL... I guess you think stealth only works against other aircraft? You also think Red Flag does not replicate SAMs? By the way, it has been well publicized that this very scenario has actually happened for real in the Persian Gulf against IRIAF fighters. It has also happened over Syria. So my advice to you is to stick to things you know about, and stay silent about what you don't. You will be better off.
@@pacus123 the whole idea behind stealth is that neither aircraft nor sams can see you...
Karl Gruner The AIM-120D isn’t a reliable enough missile against gen 4+ aircraft to maximise the stealth advantage of the F22. The advantage is definitely with the Raptor at BVR but I don’t think radar stealth is the absolute solution it’s often made out to be. The latest generation of IRST tech has really matured and the F22 is an extremely hot aircraft. Against an group of fighters equipped with the latest IRST sensors the Raptor would not realistically be able to close to WVR without detection. No Raptor pilot would ever want to dogfight with a Typhoon, Rafale, or Su-35 as all 3 can at least match the F22 in that arena. This limits the use of the bird to extreme BVR and in this role the missiles limit her effectiveness.
@@rickwalker2 LOL... Another armchair "expert" comes out and thinks he knows all about something he has never experienced. You gotta love it! Tsk, tsk... All the data out there is that IRST is OK to a point, but not nearly good enough to make up for lack of stealth. Typical IRST ranges are in the 30 mile range, maybe a bit more under optimal conditions (assuming absolutely clear skies, IRST range though clouds or significant moisture is essentially zero - how about that!) and that's nowhere far enough to ensure detection before WVR. The F-22 can steer well away from that cone, no issues. True enough, the Raptor won't want to dogfight against any other jet (not just the Typhoon, Rafale, or Su-35) because dogfighting is STUPID! Even in WW II, the highest ranking aces (such as Erich Hartman) avoiding dogfighting like the plague, so it's nothing new. Dogfighting will get you KILLED! Does not matter which aircraft you are flying, or flying against. If you had ever been a REAL fighter pilot, you would know that. Now, I would agree there will be instances (rare) where a turning fight might occur, but that is to be avoided if at all possible, and the massive supercruise speed advantage of the F-22 will allow that (avoidance) much more than for other airplanes. Finally, you quite underestimate the effectiveness of the AIM-120D. It's of course not 100%, but it will kill you, especially since it's unlikely you will see it coming (you might get a warning you are locked on, but only a very rough idea from where... Unless you are in an F-35, then you might get a VERY good idea (thanks to DASS). The AIM-120 data presented in the video is good, but it's all for older models of the missile, including very early A and B models. Anyway, you have much to learn, listen to the guys who have been there and done that instead of wildly speculating. Just a bit of advice.
How does the F-15X Super Eagle, Sukhoi SU-35S Super Flanker, and Eurofighter Typhoon Tranche 3A comapre to each other?
Eagle #1 the other 2 are shit.
I recall reading about an exchange pilot from the UK flying an F-15C saying that even in visual range he couldn’t get a lock onto the F-22.
The newer F-15EXs can also be a missile inventory for the F-22. The F-15s can stay outside the kill zone launching their Amraams while the F-22s home them to the target.
@@EmperorLionflame I don’t think so. Having Four F-15EXs carrying 24 Amraams each outside the kill zone, while F-22s flying closer and guiding Amraams home to target is far more deadly than just Typhoons.
@@EmperorLionflame The F-15s can still fly outside the kill zone while the F-22 can glide the Amraams to target. The Meteor kill zone range isn’t large enough to stop the Eagle from launching an Amraam and then turning and burning to get away. Furthermore, the F-15 can more than hold its own, especially against the EF at BVR. The F-15 is no slouch at dogfighting, either. In exercises at Red Flag Nellis they won every time in 1vs1 battles against Su-30MKIs. In different exercises the Indians also had their MKIs go up against EFs and take it to them. Not saying that the EF is a bad aircraft, not at all, but it sure isn’t at the same level as the F-22. What’s most important is that the EF can beat every Russian fighter, which is what NATO needs.
BVR missiles aren’t of much use against the F-22 because the missile seeker itself can’t track and lock onto it. The F-22 has the advantage in every realm of air-to-air combat. The F-22s AESA radar can jam the Eurofighter’s PESA radar. It’s why recently Egypt recently increased its purchase order of Rafales. They learned in exercises that the Su-35’s PESA could be jammed by the Rafale’s AESA. It didn’t come as a surprise as it was already well known that was one of the key advantages of AESA.
A good example of the Raptor’s dominance are the exercises in Al Dhafa. Raptors, and with rookie pilots, came out undefeated in the exercises, while the Eurofighter got slaughtered by the Rafales. Search here on TH-cam for F-22 Undefeated at Al Dhafa. The F-22 also has a huge advantage of carrying its weapons internally. Not only does external ordnance increase an aircraft’s RCS, it also decreases its agility and speed. The F-22 doesn’t have this problem because its weapons are stored internally and near the center of the fuselage.
Also keep in mind that in exercises that the F-22 carries the Luneburg lens, which intentionally increases it RCS so that the adversary knows where the F-22 is coming from. In reality the Eurofighter wouldn’t know where it’s coming from and the F-22 would have the edge by positioning itself in a dominant position.
@@EmperorLionflame typhoons will be blown up before it sees the raptor.
Nice explanation.
Not gonna lie, this was closer than I would have expected. But how do the three Euro Canards hold up?
In a 3 way, which is better? The Jas-39 Gripen, the Dassault Rafale, or the Eurofighter Typhoon?
I would love to see a comparison between these 3!
Better...for what purpose ? Rafale is only one carrier capable. Gripen flies as good as any of these and probably due to pricing and design will have greater numbers abd readiness rate. It is not that great heavy hitter in terms of payload and range (leave it to Rafale). Basically, built with totally different scenarios in mind.
@@piotrd.4850 Well the Typhoon beats the others in most aspects and especially in technology and countermeasures with its latest tranche. But the gripen is much easier and cheaper to deploy leading to better sortie rate and shorter runways. the rafale obviously get the carrier advantage and as Piotr you say they are all built for different reasons its not realistic to compare in general terms.
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Rafale by far
@@comkar6445 and that was before the rafale used the meteor so its possibly even better now.
Raptor has only limited Air-To-Ground due to fact that it was initially designed as Air Superiority, not as a ground fighter, unlike F-35 (which is being given more attention on upgrading air-to-ground). Raptors A2G will only involve anti-radar, and anti-sam, which is very crucial for a true stealth.
I understand what you're trying to compare here, and you give a very fair analysis. The only thing I'd suggest is breaking the video up into air to air and air to ground segments. With one being a pretty dedicated air to air platform, it loses out big time when it comes to moving mud.
The Eurofighter is getting a electronicly steared radar aswell just as an addition to this nice video
F-16 block52 vs Mirage 2000-5 next!
Yes
f-16 more superior
F-16 is better
Wouldn't the F-35 be a better matchup for the Eurofighter as both are market competitors, while only the US uses the F-22?
Well the F-35 is a single-engined fighter while the Eurofighter and F-22 are twin-engined. That could be why.
in terms of interception and air superiority performance the f-35 would fall short, it would be utility (ordanance, range, ground support etc) that the f-35 is good in.
Yes it would be a better match up, as the f35 is an absolutely garbage air superiority fighter compared to the f22
@@thelzorakee4549 That is not F-22 pilots says about dogfighting the F-35A.
@@teddyballgame4823 Because too much depends on F-35 being seen in a positive light?
Great video! Will you be making one for the gripen and rafale?
Both simply amazing
Please make a video on PAK FA vs F22 and F35.
Lorgar Aurelian the PAK FA would get it’s trousers pulled down and it’s bum skelpt 🤣
The PAK FA (SU-57) has a 3ft radar cross section, vs the F-22's 1 inch radar cross section.
The Su-57 does have IR targeting which is very nice, but not useful at longer ranges.
A lot of the comparisons have more to do with the electronics and weapons used, and these can change over time as aircraft and weapons are upgraded.
If the Brits and Japanese got together and combined their missile tech they could easily build the worlds best long range air to air missile.
Our American AIM-120 is a pretty average air to air missile, the Meteor is usually considered better.
F-22 vs F-35. I would love to see this.
Nope
A battle of radar I'd say f35 is better so it would probably win just my opinion, if radar isn't a factor f22 is more nimble so it wins. Then again what do I know
My whole reasoning for this, is F-35s have been extremely costly and I have heard they are much harder to maintain, especially with all the variants. And with the F-22 being so much cheaper I think they could have a good advantage in numbers.
Geeko170 - I'm not sure where you are getting your info but it is totally wrong. The F-35 is really easy to maintain as long as you have the right equipment and training, which anyone that is operating them should have. The F-35 is also much cheaper. The F-35 is a badass fighter and is by far the most advanced aircraft in the world.
St.Michael actually, the f35 is intentionally designed to be worse than the f22, as it is multi role and meant to be less expensive and more common. In fact, the usaf has said numerous times that the f22 is more advanced and better armed, so even without the seemingly vtol capabilities or the advanced flight helmet the f22 would still stand a better chance. Plus it’s the worlds most advanced stealth fighter, and given that it’s already more advanced than the f35 I have doubts about any f35 could reasonably detect and counter it.
I will buy one of your t-shirts in the near future.
5:33 RBE2-AA is AESA unlike what's claimed in the bottom corner.
It's the RBE2 (not AA) that is PESA.
Well the F-22 is a designated air superiority fighter... or course it sucks at ground attack
The F22 has option to forgo stealth by carrying external payloads being far better than EF2000
The F-22 has excellent air ro ground capabilities.
@@KjetilBalstad
Not really the F-22 sucks.
@@forzaisspeed Ah, it sucks? Mkey, in general, or in a air to ground configuration?
@@KjetilBalstad
The F-22 is not good in any area, its old and outdated, and against a jet like Eurofighter or SU-57 the F-22 is out classed, in both air to air and air to ground, the APG-77 Radar on the F-22 yes is powerful not the best and not the most powerfule, the APG-81 on the F-35 is better, as well as the Captor E on Eurofighter's even the Captor M radar gives the APG-77 a run for its money, remember that is really the only thing the F-22 has its has no other Systems IRST or a ground mapping Radar.
Tjx for the vids! Rafale vs eurofighter?
No match, eurofighter is better. The reason France didn't participate in the first EF-2000 was because they had specific needs that the EF-2000 won't resolve such as a naval fighter which currently the EF-2000 is not (though there's a project to navalize tranche 2 EF-2000's for French, Italian and Spanish carriers).
The EF-2000 is faster, has a higher load of weapons, maneuverability wise are rather similar, larger operational range and technologically the EF-2000 is way ahead as France do not use NATO systems on their Rafales.
Also the EF-2000 is meant to be used in a wider range of scenarios meaning it has to be able to operate from bases lacking the support systems modern planes need for daily maintenance even from roads if need it like with the grippen. Meanwhile Rafale is a much more fragile platform.
Does the rafale has any chance in a 1v1 scenario with all in thir favour for both planes? Sure, is a beautiful piece of French technology, but in real battle with the limitations and complexity that arise during a conflict the EF-2000 is both more durable and flexible.
@@jorgeadelprado Hmmmm... No.
@@jorgeadelprado the Eurofighter will never be carrier capable, it would require a complete redesign of the undercarriage, main wing spar and forward fuselage to be able to handle cat launch and traps. It'd be much cheaper to buy off the shelf F-18 Hornets or Super-Hornets.
Jorge de lprado You say a lot of things that are imprecise or wrong. The speed of the EF is not high enough, compared to the Rafale, to be an advantage because the missiles used go to Mach 4 and have a gate of several tens of kilometers. The maximum take-off weight minus the unladen weight is 14 tonnes for the Rafale and 12.5 tonnes for the EF. The weight of weapons carried is 9.5 tons for the Rafale and 9 tons for the EF. The Rafale is technologically very advanced, it uses NATO technologies such as the Link 16, its radar is one of the best in the world with a capacity for simultaneous engagement of 8 targets. The slightly weak range of this radar is solved with the new RBE2-AESA which equips the last and future Rafale of the French army, and which is considered as the best of Europe. About the fragility of the Rafale, I do not really understand what you mean, the Rafale is a proven plane during many and tough fights. Otherwise, one of the advantages of the Rafale is that it is 100% French, and that in the event of a large-scale war, its production can be increased very rapidly where the states using the EF need pieces from all over Europe. And all this is only theory, in practice, the Rafale is much better than the EF: www.latribune.fr/entreprises-finance/industrie/aeronautique-defense/20120201trib000681583/l-eurofighter-a-perdu-tous-ses-duels-face-au-rafale-.html
@@jorgeadelprado F16 vs Mig21
@Commisar Binkov is that a typo at 5:59? the F-22 can carry x8 8,285lb bombs? ^_^ that meant eight 285 lb bombs right? Love your content! I really appreciate it that you include your citations; it makes a huge difference to me!
The most awaited fight
you can easily determine the max speed of the F-22... just look at the Mach Cone formula. For an F-22 Raptor travelling at its maximum speed of Mach 1.82 the angle of the Mach cone formed is 33.3°
Not exactly
You did not determine any speeds, you determined Mach cone at that speed. You never gave any proof that this is the F-22's max speed.
Norway was once considering between buying either F-35 Lightning II, Eurofighter Typhoon or Jas-39 Gripen (ended up buying F-35). Could you please do an analysis like in this video on these 3 planes? People still to this day debate over whether or not we made the right choice about buying F-35 and I would like to just have a video like this one, to smack them in the face with xD
(please up vote so he can see!)
F-35 clearly the most expensive, but most modern plane.
Stealth tech make the same advantage as the F-22, but the F-35 more like a multi role fighter, not for air dominance.
While Gripen strength is to able to launch from a simple street, F-35 can fly like a helicopter so, it's beat the Gripen on this role.
In air combat maybe not as good as the F-22 so it has much more harder job against both other planes, but it's compensated with the stealth tech.
All in all you want to compair a 5th gen fighter jet vs 2 4th gen.
@@StArShIpEnTeRpRiSe The F-35 is actually cheaper than the Typhoon. While also having superior avionics and tech
@@weasle2904 due to the huge upcoming production lots
@@StArShIpEnTeRpRiSe Norway aren't buying the F35B so it can't fly like a helicopter.
This is the result of great marketing. The F35 is a lame duck, not more!
We can't forget on board countermeasure systems like chaff/flare
So the Eurofighter is a middle of the pack 4th gen plane, that costs almost as much as the F22, deemed to expensive even for the US? Sounds like a great deal to me.
Or the Eurofighter is the best of the rest and a chunk cheaper than the F22.
Thank you for you time spent on this vid. How about EU vs. Great Britain + Commonwealth Countries....
That would be a fun one
None of the commenwealth nations has great projection capabilities so that would pretty much just go like EU vs UK aka a clean Union victory.
If however both sides are given a year to prepare and assemble troops things might actually get interesting and not devolvwed in the EU stomping over Britain
@@matthiasbindl7085 - Blinkovs Vs. match up's NEVER have 1 year preparation. You are correct with the 'projection' part of your comment, however this is the reason WHY I think it would be such a good match up.
The commonwealth countries wouldn't join.
@@tisFrancesfault - Blinkov's Vs. match up's are ALL hypothetical you tit! Take a look at his other videos....
raptor built in my hometown Marietta Ga
Bryan Stephens was***
so what?
Because they are cool. Used to see them on first test flights overhead with F 16 escorts. Cool.
Pretty fair argument here it’s quite well detailed and clearly research was put into it. I have nothing to add except for the amraam kill ratio. While it is true that the AMRAAM has a rather low kill ratio thanks to modern jamming maneuvering and such, this goes for every missile, including the new hypersonic R-37 which is boasted to be one of if not the best air to air missile. This is because missile kill ratio is entirely dependent on the pilot. The pilot has to position his or herself at high altitude and high speed, the higher the speed the more range and same with the altitude along with more of a chance to kill because it loses and has more energy. Along with TWS lock allowing the AMRAAM to not be detected in flight by the Eurofighter until 6-3 miles. By then it’s either too late, or the EF has to rely on jamming which is useless at those ranges the missile will achieve burn through, so likely the Raptors will get a 40-50 mile range kill with the AMRAAM and again this also depends on pilot training and tactics
TVCs are typically only used for maneuvering at low air speeds because at high air speed they cause the plane to pitch relative to its center of mass rather than center of lift.
The eurofighter’s engine is going to be its biggest asset, having a much longer service interval giving it a much higher ready rate.
how about F35 vs Eurofighter? since the F22 is not available for export, many western countries evaluate F35, Typhoons and Rafales as options
Agree with the verdict, I think that if you want to compare typhoon with US fighters it is better compared with super hornet F18E/F.
Why the cost for the eurofighter is extremely comparable to the cost to buy and fly the f22 the f18 is a 70million$ jet
@Astuteous Maximus it's 100 million more it's just comparing things In the same price range not American pride it's a nice fighter just not for the money
Astuteous Maximus yeah but it’s the u.s’s most advanced stealth plane kept from export under confidential lock and key, plus it’s the most expensive fighter in the world. A solo with another fighter outside of base support range is highly unlikely for an f22.
@Astuteous Maximus I really hope the typhoon could deal with a plane that's less than half its cost and if the f22 was still in production its cost would probably be extreamly comparable to the typhoon at this point all I'm saying is for what the typhoon is it cost way to much to purchase and maintain
If the F22 had been manufactured in the kind of numbers the typhoon has been (800+) would Its unit cost have fallen to close to that of the typhoon? Or would things like stealth coating keep the unit cost high regardless of volume?
I had never seen the fighter prototypes that went up against the f15 until the other day, one of them looked pretty similar the eurofighter airframe
Worth noting top speed will help with missile accuracy (giving the missile more initial energy to play with) and missile evasion thanks to a more effective crank in a BVR fight.
F-35 vs SAAB Gripen (E/F).
(Maybe some fudging as the F-35 is still generally considered not to be fully cimbat capable in all models yet).
In addition to head to head, there's total cost/running cost, logistics, pilot fight training and availability and usability. The Saab Gripen can be paired with a integrated air defence and AWACs system (Saab sells a complimentary AWACS aircraft, although the Gripen can data link with it's compatriots). And the Gripen is a lot faster and could also catch fleeing/returning F-35's, that have poor rear facing stealth and apparently a large heat signature.
Both planes are available on the Western market and come from completely different design and strategic philosophies.
Which is better as an overall package not just an individual plane?
The problem with Saab is nobody is buying their airplanes. More profit equals more R&D.
The F-35A is very much combat-ready .
I'm sure the Gripen is a solid, dependable plane, but it is 4++ gen. Integrating with AWACs and an air defense system is the only chance it might have against an F35. The 35's rear stealth aspect isn't poor, it just isn't as stealthy as the front aspect. In the same vein, it doesn't have a large heat signature, though that is probably the least stealthy part of the plane. I think it would be more useful to compare the Gripen with the Rafale and Eurofighter.
"I hate those stealth" lol
Yo binkov can you do a video on making the most cost effective army, airforce and navy?
The british are said to be working on a new form of sensor technology that would replace radar in favour for a laser pulse wave style detection said to detect everything including stealth
Ah, the F-22. Too fantastic to consider selling even to allies.
Or overcomplex, expensive and the stealth doesn't really work anyway? F22 is just companies printing money from the government just like F35
@@tobywenman4769 - Well, quality comes at a price, and when you spend a paltry $10 - 50 bn on your ENTIRE military, you can't afford it.
@@SilvanaDil and why would you spend more on the military? To flex on people on the internet?
@MarxWas RothschildsCousinLovsCIAfakeMSM the American mindset always baffles me. They seem to always think that they're the centre of attention and everyone is only doing things for or against them. Maybe Israel has its own issues and is just trying to deal with itself. To quote trump recently "Israel is no threat" granted that was like a week after he said he was going to invade lmao
@MarxWas RothschildsCousinLovsCIAfakeMSM - You're a nutcase. Bye bye.
Make an Spain vs Morocco one day!
Haha! Why?!
It must be a jear
@@circleofsorrow4583 Are you really asking? At least you know Spain and Morocco are neighbourghs, right?
@@oberfeldspannerdennis6538 What's a jear?
why, we all know Spain would win. It's more interesting with the uncertein ones.
Hmm, like Russia and China vs USA alone(With Russia and China being prepped and trained for this aka Surprise attack) no European allies
Very good video, I like it, however I think I should point out, I think the fuel consumption rate of both the F-22 and the Typhoons are classified
cool film:) could you comper gripen witch f16/rafael/ eurofighter?
The ground verdict should’ve seen the F-22 pushed off. It compares in no way to the Typhoon.
1. Literally the most advanced stealth plane in the world
2. literally the most expensive plane in the world
3.literally beat the f35 and typhoon in dogfights
So yes, it really is incomparable.
I love watching stuff like this. Very informative. My god the armchair generals in the comments need to calm down though!
its just kind of a pointless comparison. the F22 is pure AS. The F-35 is the proper comparison, but its pretty evident that the EF is the second choice there given that anyone who could get an f-35 is scooping them up.
Peace indeed Brother!!!
Don't forget, in a major combat engagement the F-22 would be assisted by EA-18G Growlers which would provide jamming of enemy radar (that's assuming the engagement happens anywhere near an American aircraft carrier or overseas US Marine base). Also, AWACS airborne radar and control airplanes with their super-powerful radars would be on site sharing targeting data with the F-22's, unless the engagement was a total surprise. In a major combat operation the F-22 fighters will never fight by themselves. All this would augment the already impressive capabilities of the F-22.
Do a F-22 vs saab (JAS-39) Gripen
Or Eurofighter vs Gripen
F-22 impales the Saab
@@danielcannon4727 Don't forget the Gripen has A LOT of electronic countermeasures which have caused Typhoon pilots problems in the past when these countermeasures have been used.
Air Superiority vs Multi-role aircraft?
Why do I feel like this was more for views from this old comparison where the answer to "who would win?" is obvious?
So basically what you're saying is the Raptor needs an overhaul to allow their helmets to Target opponents and then fire it's missiles off it's center line. As it's the current weakspot in it's air superiority role when going up against targets that can fire off their center line via helmet targeting.
If it could get a second upgrade, it would likely be more modern missiles as the American inventory is slightly dated when compared to some newer designs around the word.
Once again a dumb ass comment. Slightly outdated cause of a single missile that the amraam still has advantages over.
Another thing worth noting is that even within visual range, radar track is very important for predicting firing solutions and launch parameters. An F-22 will be harder to lock in a dogfight than most planes.
Can you make a comparison, HAL Tejas MK1A vs JF-17 Block 2 and 3
No brother F16 vs Mig21
@@worldbreakerhulk6051 That would be an unfair comparison, just like the F-22 vs Typhoon. I think Typhoon is F-15 would have been a better comparison
@@worldbreakerhulk6051 Yes I've heard of that and there is no proof of that. An AMRAAM missile wreckage doesn't prove anything nor does a screen image. Only if the pilot himself comes out and talks about it, or best proof is gun cam footage
@@F22raptor46 Pakistan is a liar country. First they said that they have shot down 2 Indian jets and arrested 2 pilot's, even Pakistani Prime Minister said that they have 2 indian air force pilot's.
but India said that only 1 mig21 was shot down snd 1 only 1 pilot is in Pakistan custody. And 1 F16 was shot down by a mig21.
After that Pakistan takes Up turns and said that they have only 1 pilot.
So was the 2nd pilot?????
Simple answer Pakistani F16 pilot.
Pakistan is terrorist lier country.
@@F22raptor46 th-cam.com/video/BZJ1q6px2Ug/w-d-xo.html
Please do
Su-35s vs F-16 block 72 viper
@Vladimir Putin Nah, i only need the Su-35s vs F-16 block 72 viper
I want to know with is the best
@Vladimir Putin My country want to buy Su-35s, but the government say why we just buy F-16 block 72 viper?, We need to make relationship USA and Indonesian
@Vladimir Putin And if we buy that is from Russia we Will get economy Crisis
@Vladimir Putin Yeah i know, but we scare the economy crisis just like in 1997-98
@@m.albani4982 with the amount you'll buy, how you integrate with allies is more important than how good the jet is.
Mixed squadrons of F-35 and Typhoons (they are getting a big Electronic warfare upgrade) are most likely the deadlist airforce you can create these days. But also very expensive but again -very good!
The Typhoon is very impressive for a 4th gen fighter. I can't wait to see how capable the Tempest is when it is finally complete.
Is the New one being called tempest? or is it just a project name
Lovely!
Grippen NG x Raptor?
Id like to see JAS Gripen vs. F-35 LightningII.
Nice video, what about Mig-29 vs F-16
F 16 vs Su 27 would be fine.
vintage aircrafts !
@@miguelb.655 f 15 is equal to su 27.... both are heavy weight and BVR fighter
Typhoon's a _Swing Role_, which means it can perform air dominance _and_ ground strike in the same sortie.
Which is cool, it didn't need to land and be reconfigured after completing air dominance.
James Neave most planes don’t, it’s just carrying bombs means you have a large RCS so you will be detected easier.
@Binkov's Battlegrounds, YF-22 was the 1990's Raptor, the 2000's F22 - Raptor is not the same (just watched a video on the YF-22 and YF-23).
F22 vs Su34/Su57 pls
The Russian have 10 Su57 prototypes with jet engines from older planes because new engines don't work. There not ready for service and are flown primarily at air shows. Putin announced this month May 2019 that they would have 76 su-57 ready by the year 2028. 9 yrs from now. Still waiting on 2,300 T -14 Tanks he said would released and in its tank fleet by 2020. Current number of T-14 Tanks produce in its tank fleet 10!
@@TheDavcrz5 Yeah Russia's military is so far behind the US it's kind of a joke.
A non nuclear war between the US and Russia would end very quickly.
Not only does the US have more aircraft (something like 4-5x more...), they're more advanced, newer and superior air craft, whereas Russia fields much more dated air craft as their newer models are too expensive for them.
Then there's navy... I don't even need to talk about this. The US easily has the world's most powerful navy, with 11 nuclear air craft carriers. Whereas Russia has 1... And it's diesel powered LOL.
Then just basic infantry... The US fields better rifles, that are more controllable and lighter. They also have substantially more training. This I imagine is purely due to cost. Russia can't afford the bullets for training as much as the US (loool)
@@TheDavcrz5 US and Russia will not go to war though, not in the next 10 years at least. The US needs to complete ABM development. Ship based RIM-161E might be ready within the next decade. When the weapons achieve high success rate they can mass produce them. Russia is doomed when US acquires a 100% operable nuclear shield. Russia's time is limited, they have 2 decades tops.
Isn't the RAF typhoon superior to the regular eurofighters?
Doesn't matter they have to get close to have a chance or their screw
Yeah its more upto date
Yes
how do you make these units? handdrawn?
I think this is quite a good analysis....
I really like the concept of the F-22 for me there is no real competitor and the US failed to make a better fighter jet in my opinion. It is just so much technologically advanced that they couldn't mass produce it. It is just so expensive because the F-22 really tried to go beyond our current technology. Still really impressive and one real 6th gen fighter can go and match it.
The advance technologically had nothing to do with the production run being stopped. It was being mass produced. What stopped it was a total moron of a president. If we had a president with half a working brain it would still be rolling off the assembly lines. Funny that as advanced as it is, it is America's tech way back in the late 1980 and early 1990. Tech that Russia and China are just now being able to come close to. Can't imagine what they have out in places like Area 52, not 51. Probably have anti gravity craft buzzing around with killer lasers. There is no doubt that what we are allowed to see is years behind what we are not allowed to see.
The YF-23 was better right? But the cost of one Jet was to high?
@@75offensivetackle38 I don't know about the secret US weaponry. I know they exist tho and it is interesting to have a glance what they are doing. Actually we might have a glance. For example the 6th Gen fighter which is probably coming in the early 30s and the B-21 next Gen stealth bomber. It is too late to restore the production of F-22 as it will slow down F-35 roll out not just for the US but also for the US allies and there is no point in doing so. That's because while F-22 is better as a fighter F-35 is not just significantly cheaper but also it has new technologies like better radar, connectivity with other fighters and command in the area and US allies can have it as well. Also cheaper means more in numbers. Dogfights are thing of the past. Russia is trying to make the best dogfighter while the US is laughing at the idea because they will took it down long before that.
@@BansheeNT-D We will never know which one was better or which one was more expensive. The estimated price is always wrong as it only look at the best case scenario which is obviously impossible.
The F-22 rocks the Typhoon in air superiority, the Typhoon is better at everything else
EDIT; and stealth attacks
EmperorLionflame Hahahah
11:22 is that the Kommissar piloting the Typhoon? 😳
Very pragmatic look at both fighters. One gripe I do have is the ground attack take. I believe the typhoon is, far and away, the better platform for AtoG. I don’t believe the Raptor has ever been combat proven in that role. If I recall correctly, the US tested the Raptor for AtoG but, decided against it because of the mods that would be made and the variables that don’t really need consideration. Instead, the USAF decided to rely on the F-15E to take care of that, while the Raptors would provide top cover.