PLEASE LOOK INTO WHAT THE ISRAILI TROOPS HAVE DONE TO THE PALESTINIAN CHRISTIANS AND MUSLIMS, HOW THEY ARE SEGREGATED AND TREATS AS HUTLETER TREATED THE JEWS IM WW2 - YOU SAY YOU ARE UNBIASED, PLEASE PLEASE LOOK INTO IT!! THEY HAVE TAKENNOVER THE COUNTRY FROM 6% TO OVER 80% AND REFUSE PEACE AS THEY SEE PALESTINIANS AS LESS THAN, CHRISTIANS AND JEWS. BETHLEHEM IS IN PALESTINE!! YOU NEED TO LOOK INTO THE HISTORY AND MORE OF WHATS BEEN GOING ON, DON'T BE JADED BY THE HURT OF WHATS HAPPENING TO YOUR FAMILY, IT'S AFFECTING EVERYONE, YOU MUST BE UNBIASED, WE NEED SOMEONE TO UNCOVER THE MAINSTREAM MEDIA. PLEASE!! THIS ISN'T JUST MUSLIMS BUT CHRISTIANS TOO THAT ARE DYING. I CAN SHARE INF INFORMATION, HISTORY. PLEASE ANDREW
Folks, if you like Andrew's reporting, not just on this situation but everything he done, so please do check out his work on many other subjects too, he is also on Locals. There is a growing group of genuine and really lovely people there. andrewgold.locals.com/ There is free option. Andrew also has a code to get three free months where you can interact with everyone and chat on lives there etc... Zero censorship, only rule is be kind to each other. As no matter how we agree on, we will always find things where we don't agree. And Locals is growing and somewhere people are caring and understanding and can agree to differ or discuss things in calm reasoned manner.
I really found this interview very interesting, many people here in the states including myself, think if more people would look at themselves as Americans, (as a whole) would be better than separating ourselves into categories of Italian American, Mexican Americans ect that as American culture would be more unified, it seems here that many people put more into the ancestry then they do American culture, American culture IS a mixture of people who are seeking basically the same goals, freedom to pursue a good life for our families ect..
You speak for yourself, there are plenty of informed people in the west; many of them are journalists, intellectuals, activists and other humanitarians who’ve been speaking the truth about the colonization of the Palestinian people for decades and no one would listen and they still aren’t but the tide is turning. Andrew has to find the only racist black man from America to come on his show to spoon feed you his Zionist messaging.
.It is the Theocracy in Iran that is behind this war. They want to rule the entire world. No religious freedom, no freedom of speech, no rights for women, just the old men with their theocracy. And it is not the Iranian people. They too want to be free. The Theocratic rulers are the cause and the enemy of the human race. They can't be reasoned with, they are the sworn enemy of reason. If they have their bloody triumph (they would use nuclear weapons) there will be no more freedom of religion, no more music, art, literature, cultures, and nations. There will only be them, asserting their authority is from their vision of God. What they did to those Israeli women, children, families, homes, and the elderly is what they wish for the entire human race. Horror and death. They say it quite clearly. When people tell you what they are, believe them. Every other human conflict among nations pales in importance. This is the greatest menace to everyone. The Iranian theocracy wants to conquer the entire world. The US and Israel are their are their main targets now. But there is no nation they will allow to be free in any form. And even if they form ugly alliances with North Korea, Russia, and China, those alliances too are temporary. If the US and Israel fall, North Korea, Russia, and China would probably celebrate our destruction. For a time. But they too are in the Iranian Theocracy eye sights. They won't stop until every culture, every tradition that is not their own, every people is crushed into "submission". Unless we stop them.
I have mixed feelings. I am from the US and when 9-11 happen Bush was looking to get even/look strong with the attackers and went after the wrong country (Iraq) and wasted billions of dollars, created an opioid crisis at home through corruption in the poppy fields, and spent 20 years getting nothing done while killing lots of people. I have long thought that if we had turned the other check to the terrorists and challenged them to the negotiation table, but we could have had the world on our side it finding and stopping the problem. I might be naïve, but what my nation did was totally idiotic and seems like it came out of the worse timeline. I wonder if a bit of sympathy would have been a bit better.
@@motherofone979 Tell that to the numerous people injured and the families of those killed by the IRA at Aldershot, Westminster, Harrods, The Hilton, London Tower, West Ham, Walton's, Green Park, Cannon Street, West Ham, Camden, Eltham, Wembley, Woolwich, Canary Wharf, Olympia, Canvey Island, Brighton, Birmingham, Guildford, Bristol, Manchester, Warrington...and so on...
Love that Andrew allows his guests to speak without butting in , a lesson in media journalism interviews for every other host.Great response from Colman,clear precise and without drama.bless you both .
I just love that he let this guy spew out hateful propaganda non stop without push back, what that does is propagandize the public and that’s exactly what the intent was here. No one knows who his guest is in the states except for one of the few right wing black conservatives who doesn’t believe there is discrimination against black people in America, I’ve got some news for him 😂😂.
It is terrifying how easily people fall into tribalism. There have been absolutely sickening things said on both sides of this conflict by people not there.
Someone legit messaged me on insta saying 'gaza is ready come in we'll give what you deserve, you pigs that hitler sadly failed to wipe' bro what the hell is wrong with ppl
I keep ignoring streams on it for this reason. It is popping up all over my algorithm though and so many people chiming in on a foreign war. When innocent people on both sides are dying. It actually makes me sick to see people taking sides so insanely. In fact with that. I am departing and watching another video 😂 I am fine with andrew’s streams he isn’t like that. But still can’t handle it.
@@WhoAreYou-.-. Only one side raises their children to hate and kill all Jews. Israeli Jews go to school, work with and live alongside Arabs. Israeli children aren't taught that Arabs must be killed. So, no, there aren't good people on both sides.
@@WhoAreYou-.-.just came across this video and NYC Jews SHUT DOWN Grand Central Station in support of the Palestinians being just slaughtered by Zionists in Gaza in the apartheid racist state of Israel. Two entirely different groups of people. Many of the dead on the 7th were very possibly merked by the IDF as the state of Israel has a Hannibal Direcive to eliminate hostages along with 'terrorists' to prevent having to deal with hostage situations and there are reports of Hamas waiting for HOURS while telling the hostages to call the IDF in as they wanted a fight with the state. As far as the Zionists in Israel go, there are a ton of TikTok videos of the settlers mocking the Palestinians being slaughtered. Conflating American Jews with Israeli Zionist settlers is so disingenuous.
Some samples of last 20 years: Nigeria vs Boko Haram 350,000 dead Sudan vs JEM/Darfur 300,000 dead Yemen vs Houthis 233,000 dead Pakistan vs Islamists 50,000 dead Syria's civil war 400,000 dead South Sudan's civil war 400,000 dead Ethiopia and Eritrea vs Tigray 600,000 dead Do you remember protests for all these dead? Me, neither. It is not about people or land in Gaza.
I don't believe there is any coming back from this division. Any person who celebrates murder can only be described as evil. Not only are there celebrations and dancing in the streets, but there is outright denial by others. This division is going to be a major problem very soon.
They danced yesterday. Displayed a dead, gang-raped naked non-Israeili woman on their vehicle, they cheered. Now they bury their sons and daughters today and tomorrow and the day after tomorrow too.
At least they have openly shown themselves. These people were always there, hiding behind oppression narratives and Identity politics. Fundamentalist Islamists are not a group that should be allowed a voice. Islam should be put under intense scrutiny because it speaks in 2 tongues, one to its enemies and one to its believers. The worst part about this all are the naive progressive women and LGBT people who cozy up to people who would kill or oppress them if they had a chance. The moderate left needs to wake up, see who their far left "friends" are openly supporting and disown all the monsters, Islamists and Tankies alike. They made it clear "this is what a revolution looks like" in their eyes and they want one in america.
@@mrsbrown1705 it can't be slander as slander is spoken, libel is written. And no it isn't libelous either. It is opinion. Which everyone has a right to. Even if we cannot all agree on our opinions. I'm a Barrister btw. What is happening is that a small number of people on boths sides are playing politics and power games and it is us normal ordinary folks who die. No different to when I was growing up in Northern Ireland. But the IRA didn't fire rockets from schools and hospitals, unlike Hamas. And Hamas know that Israel always will fire back from where the rocket was launched. They then get their optics for the rest of the world. when they chose to have their own people killed for optics. Just as the haredi population of Israel keep voting in the far right Netanyahu who is mad for the power too. He sacked all the good intelligence officers and put in yes men. And it is the people who are paying the price. But HAredis are exempt from military service. Unlike muslims born in Israel who do have to do their National Service in the IDF. Imagine how that feels. That the people voting in mad men on both sides, are either radialised by the murder of their families which is technically done by israel yet their kids would still be alive if Hamas hadn't fired the rocket for the school their child attends. It's all kinds of f**cked up just like Northern Ireland was. But we have peace now, relative peace. People are not dying anymore. There is hope eternal and we must always as ordinary people, hold onto this. As I never thought I'd see peace in my life time in northern ireland but yet it happened before I even turned 20!!! The Peace Agreement was the first time I was able to vote on anything in fact.
I have not seen anyone on "the left" celebrating what Hamas did. I have seen many people voicing support for Palestinian people, but that is a different thing.
75 YEARS OF PALESTINIAN GENOCIDE AND MURDER SINCE 1948 AND STILL ONGOING!!! PLEASE 🙏 READ THE LETTER FROM THE ENGLISH AFRED BALFOUR TO THE EXTREMELY WEALTHY JEWISH LORD ROTHSCHILD - TELLING HIM TO INFORM THE ZIONIST FEDERATION THAT THE MEMBERS OF PARLIAMENT IN BRITAIN 🇬🇧 HAD AGREED TO CREATE A JEWISH RELIGIOUS STATE UPON THE PEOPLE OF PALESTINE 🇵🇸 - AND IN THIS LETTER THE NATIVE INDIGENOUS ARAB POPULATION OF PALESTINE ARE DISMISSIVELY REFERRED TO AS NON-JEWISH RESIDENTS/ NON-JEWISH POPULATION… ANDREW IS UTTERLY CLUELESS AS TO HIS OWN COUNTRIES INVOLVEMENT IN THE STEALING OF PALESTINE BY THE ZIONIST FEDERATION - AND HIS OLD TESTAMENT/ TORAH SCRIPTURES - WHERE HIS “GOD” TELLS HIS ANCESTOR ABRAHAM “TO GO DOWN TO CANAAN AND SMITE ALL OF THE CANAANITES!!!” THE CANAANITES ARE THE ANCESTORS OF THE PHILISTINES WHO ARE THE ANCESTORS OF PRESENT DAY INDIGENOUS NATIVE PALESTINIANS!!! IT HAS BEEN THEIR HOMELAND FOR THOUSANDS OF YEARS!!! ABRAHAM WAS TOLD TO TAKE HIS FATHER TERAH AND MOVE OUT OF THE CITY OF UR IN PRESENT DAY IRAQ - DOWN TO CANAAN AND TO SMITE ALL OF THE CANAANITES - AND IF ABRAHAM AGREED TK FIGHT ALL OF THIS “GOD’S” WARS FOR HIM - HE WOULD MAKE HIM AND HIS DESCENDANTS “HIS CHOSEN PEOPLE” MY LEBANESE AUNTY TOLD ME THAT THE TWO BLUE LINES ON THE FLAG OF ISRAEL 🇮🇱 MEAN “FROM THE NILE TO THE EUPHRATES” - MEANING THEIR “GOD” PROMISED HIS CHOSEN PEOPLE ALL OF THE LAND FROM THE NILE RIVER IN EGYPT 🇪🇬 TO THE EUPHRATES RIVER IN IRAQ 🇮🇶
@@powderandpaint14 sadly there have been many comments I've seen celebrating the deaths of innocent Jews. And the other way round too. It's f**ked up. Men at the top play their politics and power games and we all die. Ordinary people on both sides.
I don’t really know any Jews personally, but since I was a kid and first learned about the Holocaust, it broke my heart and I just couldn’t believe it happened. How people can hate one group of people so much for zero reason. Growing up christian, I was always taught that the Jews were Gods chosen people and since the beginning of time they have been hated on. I’ve always been confused by this. In august I visited Auschwitz and was in tears the entire time. I have a soft spot in my heart for Jews because they have been treated terribly for zero reason. Now this has happened, and I can’t even believe what I’m hearing people say. People actually defending terrorists. It makes me so sad. My heart is with the Israeli people ❤ I’m sad by all innocent lives lost on both sides. It’s just all so very sad and heartbreaking all around 💔
What you just said is the reason why Jews have joined ProPalestinians rallies. They've been through ethnic cleansing in Germany and don't want to see it happening again with the Gazans who are trapped in the world's largest concentration camp in the world. This fight isn't against Jews and Palestinians but against all montheists in the area and Zionists. Rabbi Dovid Weiss is one of the biggest advocates of the rallies as well as Jewish Voice for Peace. And the whole beheading babies and rape thing already got retracted because it was a lie propagated to justify the complete annihilation of Palestinians in Gaza
I so agree! I had friends in elementary school whose grandparents came from Europe on vacation in the summer and they had SURVIVED the holocaust. We heard their stories first hand. I’m 60, but never thought NEVER that this could happen again. Until now. And I’m shocked and horrified 💔🇮🇱💔
I have seen so much J hatred online. They are having a field day hating on J's, right now. Sadly, it makes me think oh, ok, I see how the Holocaust happened.
Palestinians are not terrorist, Hamas is the terrorist who runs the Gaza Strip. Years ago they were voted in but they have not held elections in years. They are a militant dictatorship. No Palestinian could speak out against them. Not every Palestinian joined Hamas or agree with Hamas. I am sure Hamas recruited Palestinians. Palestinians are some of the poorest people on the planet. They were an oppressed people. If you want to know about the Palestinians read my comment in this thread I wrote about them. And the views I had in the beginning. I thought they were part of Hamas, but that is not true.
I'm a Brit and I relate to what Andrew says about our mainstream TV. I was an absolute BBC TV & Radio 4 devotee for most of my life, but a few years back I just started to find it weird & unwatchable. It seemed to me like it had stopped understanding humour, nuance, human relations, & people's desire for democracy. I felt the more it trumpeted its virtue & inclusivity, the more insufferable & elitist it became. I'm a hated GB News watcher these days. They are a bit low-brow for my tastes, but at least the don't despise ordinary working class British citizens and their desire for stability & security in their lives. The BBC can't even bring themselves to describe HAMAS as 'Terrorists' for God's Sakes! WTF?
It’s all a bit too much hypocrisy, isn’t it really? The never ending scandals particularly in and around SA or sexual impropriety really does go against everything they claim to stand for. In the wake of the current Brand scandal, I found the public reaction to instant (alleged) victim blaming far too familiar and far too triggering which resulted in finding Andrew’s channel to begin with. I must admit, I find Gold’s ‘middle-ground’ approach far more realistic, pleasant and a far more fair minded approach than any mainstream has currently to offer.
Look I'm Irish, I have always found BBC radio 4 weird, they are simply without perception, instead the build concepts to the level of insane abstractions. Once a year, I will listen to one of their plays to see how far the insanity has gone, in fact their plays stopped making sense a few years ago. As a woman, I found Woman's Hour the most selfish pathetic and utterly oppressive slurry that ever poured through the air ways.
I'm an Irish woman, too. Pushing hysteria and rage is standard in our media. Convincing young people we're all terrible and their lives are miserable when one trip to a developing country will open their eyes. They're also hidden from the cold, hard reports we had. Basic news: This happened, that happened - here's the weather. 😂 I saw women and gays protesting for palestine and last month I saw a report in the middle east celebrating the execution of gays and a 'women are vile' opinion piece for using social media. Bonkers stuff. Middle Eastern news and Arabic comments translated for me are mocking western white protests. Threatening us.
So, politically aware people with compassion, and an actual awareness of history,and have a better grasp of what actually going on are "bonkers" because you're too ignorant to try and find the truth or understand what's actually going on.... Again, make it make sense!!!
Coleman is right about what Israel's options are for recourse. Israel really does NOT have any options other than retaliate...and to retaliate HARD. Their lives, their safety and actually the "right" to actually live & survive all depends upon how they respond. If Israel were to just retaliate with only sanctions, such a response would just be a green light to Hamas to plan another attack that's even more severe, because they would think that they could actually attain what it is they want...which is to end the life of each & every Jewish individual. Weakness or half measures are absolutely not options to Israel. Their actual existence depends upon a very rigorous defense. Andrew, glad you invited Coleman to give his perspectives.
I'm a north-Londoner, daughter of a catholic mother & jewish refugee father. I grew up near Golders Green, which has a large jewish community, and this fact often drew the kind of comments Christopher Hitchens called 'off-the-cuff British anti-semitism'. As a woman I got that extra dollop of misogynism. I've been told that I have a 'jewish nose', that I'm a 'jewish neurotic' - even though I'm pretty level-headed, and that I'm a 'jewish princess' - despite very clearly always living modestly and from cheque to cheque. Now I do speak up if someone says something anti-semitic, but it's taken me many years to get to this point and when I was young, I said nothing and I look back and realise that it was destructive.
I know that this is a time of infinite sadness, of fear, of discouragement. But I wanted to tell you, Andrew , as a message of friendship, the favorite Jewish joke of Raymond Aubrac, one of the greatest and highest figures of the French Resistance during the WW2. - Why are we sure that Jesus is Jewish? - Because at 30 years old, he still lives with his parents, he adores his mother and his mother takes him for god. As for the rest, I am very impressed by the quality of this extremely interesting exchange. I also like that you dare to talk about the existential question of Jewishness as you experience it in the UK. I have nothing special to say except I'm learning a lot by listening to you. Thank you so much !
This is my first time watching you Andrew. I was brought over by Coleman, who I love. Thank you so much for your vulnerability and honesty. One of the last things you said about if an Italian guy living in the Uk has kids, they are just British. I’m sure this is why the British, Irish, etc find it so obnoxious when some Americans reference their ancestry. Of course we are all Americans, but many either also identify as or give reverence to that ancestry.
It’s so true! We in the US are attempting to view the situation in Israel/Gaza in terms of the Civil Rights movement and the two situations are not even close to being the same. This is unlike anything we’ve ever seen or experienced firsthand. We honestly have no idea how complex and tragic this really is. 9/11 is just a small sample of what Israel has been through in the past 75 years. Imagine if that was happening all the time here for decades.
This has to be the most tone deaf hilariously clueless Zionist comment ever. It looks like a made-up invented country, that's built on stolen land doesn't work out so well, what an absolute shocker!.... Especially ironic given the colonialist history of the situation and the fact that the instigators were the British. Again, what a surprise! 😂😂😂
The ancient community of Jews that used to live in Gaza perished in Islamist riots of 1929, concurrent with dozens of other communities, the massacre in Hebron was documented, you can see the photos of that ISIS style massacre in archives of the NYT. Photos like the gut churning photos of the massacre of Oct. 7 only in black and white. *In 1929 the massacres were committed mostly by mobs. 1929 is 19 years before the rebirth of Israel, 38 years before Israel got into Gaza strip, 37 years before the process of appropriating the title Palestinians by Arabs even started.
I just subscribed to Coleman's page too. Thank you Andrew for introducing me to him. Whenever I can find a normal person I want to keep them in my circle. 🍁🍂😊
A normal person who justifies killing thousands of civilians? They’re bombing indiscriminately. The Israeli gov is as bad, if not worse than Hamas because they will kill thousands. It will only create a new generation of Hamas of the children who survive the massacre. They can’t even leave Palestine. They’re sitting ducks. What Hamas did was horrific. This is just more of the same senseless killing.
Thank you for your posts, so important to talk about what is happening, so much fake news out there hard to decipher through it all. My family is still safe, everyone is just trying to get through this difficult time 🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻 there is so much good though happening at the same time
The ancient community of Jews that used to live in Gaza perished in Islamist riots of 1929, concurrent with dozens of other communities, the massacre in Hebron was documented, you can see the photos of that ISIS style massacre in archives of the NYT. Photos like the gut churning photos of the massacre of Oct. 7 only in black and white. *In 1929 the massacres were committed mostly by mobs. 1929 is 19 years before the rebirth of Israel, 38 years before Israel got into Gaza strip, 37 years before the process of appropriating the title Palestinians by Arabs even started.
@@ef2718 Palestinians had never attacked Jews in the centuries they lived together The reason was not related to religion. This is not to justy the riots, but spreaing the notion that Jews were targetted brcause they were Jews i and linking he attack to Islamism, is unacceptable and irresponsable. ' The British-appointed Shaw Commission found that the fundamental cause of the violence, "without which in our opinion disturbances either would not have occurred or would have been little more than a local riot, is the Arab feeling of animosity and hostility towards the Jews consequent upon the disappointment of their political and national aspirations and fear for their economic future",[6] as well as Arab fears of Jewish immigrants "not only as a menace to their livelihood but as a possible overlord of the future'". Wikipedia'
@@ThreetwoOne-wu7ye Some samples of last 20 years: Nigeria vs Boko Haram 350,000 dead Sudan vs JEM/Darfur 300,000 dead Yemen vs Houthis 233,000 dead Pakistan vs Islamists 50,000 dead Syria's civil war 400,000 dead South Sudan's civil war 400,000 dead Ethiopia and Eritrea vs Tigray 600,000 dead Do you remember protests for all these dead? Me, neither. It is not about people or land in Gaza, it is about Islamic domination.
@@ef2718 Qualifying the riots as 'Islamists' is wrong. I think that it is not my job to fill in the blanks. The riots had a reason and certainly not an 'Islamist one'. Not to say the massacres were justified but they are understandable. There wa no such thing as antisemitism in the Arab world or else we would need to invent a similar terms for Arab Christians. Both were accepted with restrictions. Historians seem to concur in the fact that antisemitism started after 1948 in Arab countries. So no such thing as 'islamist riots'. Jews' historical persecutors were Christians and Arab countries were really an asylum for them. My husband's great-grandfather was the Great Rabbi of Alexandria and my husband's father and uncle had the most famous textile fabric in all the near East. Palestinians had no kind of power over Arab Jews. The reasons for the massacres and the riots that preceded had nothing to do with antisemitism. You forgot to mention that the massacres happened 32 years after the official beginning of the zionist project which was to create a Jewish homeland in Palestine (the birth of zionism dating back to 1887 with the immigration of 35'000 Jews from Russian and mostly Ashkenazi, all fleeing Pogroms.) I have written a whole essay, but it's not my job to correct everything.
Thankyou Guys, i have watched both your videos and feel humbled. You are two supremely intelligent and brave thinkers. It is such a horrifying subject but you have dealt with it in such a calm, considered way. It is pure relief to know that people like you with such compassion and wisdom exist in these insane and frightening times. Thankyou
You mean like the Gazan "civillians" who invaded Israel and raped, mutilated and dragged people into underground terror tunnels in Gaza? There's no equivalecy between Israelis and "Palestinians"(which is an artifically fabricated 'national identity' with ZERO historical basis). NO MORE LIES. There's good and there's evil in this world, make your choice!
14 Nov. 2023 survey among Palestinian Arabs. Table 27: How much do you support the military operation carried out by the Palestinian resistance led by Hamas on October 7th? Extremely support - 59.3% Somewhat support -15.7% Total 75% Source: Arab World for Research and Development (AWRAD)
Your guest referred to Jews who “moved” to Israel from Arab countries. I think it is important for your audience to understand that those Jews were displaced and forced to move from their homes due to the formation of Israel. The estimates are that there were as many displaced Jews as there were Palestinians. The Jews were welcomed into their new homeland, the Palestinians refused to form a state of their own and their neighboring Arab neighbors did not want them to come in with the exception of Jordan.
500,000-700,000 Arabs fled from Israel and became refugees. 900,000-1,000,000 Jews fled from Arab Countries to Israel and became refugees, their descendants make the majority of Israelis. You don’t hear about the refugees who fled to Israel, Israel has absorbed those incoming refugees, while the Arab countries for the most part did not, they use them as a political tool (a common cause, a unifying topic, a diversion from poverty, poor health care, poor education and corrupt governments).
Over 100 million people were refugees on the 20th century, they all have moved on, except for those Arabs of Palestine/Israel, who are kept a refugee status by Arab countries, UNRWA and their own political leaders.
I am Catholic Chinese Indonesian currently living in Australia. It's common mistake for general public to mix culture and religion. When my sister-in-law who is a really good Muslim - joining our Chinese New Year tradition, which is culture, lots of people condemned her. And when I visited my parents' graves to pay respect by doing Chinese ritual, lots of people said "but you're Catholic". Culture is what I was born into, I don't think I can choose my culture, it's in my vein (it's explained of why I am forever stingy) but I can choose my religion.
Coleman is an awesome guest and I love the way he interviewed you Andrew! I’m learning so much from you about Hamas and Israel and have been educating my mum and her friends. I can’t believe the LGBT plus community in America are protesting with the Pro Palestine groups. They are so ignorant of what would happen to them over there and they are celebrating terrorism and the deaths and torture of the innocent. The Mayor of NYC gave a very powerful speech today in solidarity with Israel. It was very moving ❤
The "LGBT community" collectively are NOT celebrating the Hamas attack, rather it's minority fringe extremist political elements of the LGBT community who are. Get your facts straight. Also, the whole " you should agree with murdering innocent people and children because they would discriminate/ kill you if you were in a Muslim country" is patronising AF. Neither the Palestinians nor the LGBT community need the likes of you or Andrew telling us what the score is when you're also absolutely fucking ignorant about what you're talking about anyways. Go learn about about the history of colonialism. The true history of Israel unbiased to either side, not the zionist lies that people like Andrew promote no matter how well intended on his part.
The Torah says homosexuals should be put to death. An ultra-Orthodox Jew stabbed to death a 16-year-old girl at a gay pride parade in Israel in 2016. Google "Yishai Schlissel." Does this mean LGBT people shouldn't care about religious Jews that are killed by Hamas? "You should only care about people that agree with you about everything" is a pretty weak morality.
I can't believe that you side with Israeli occupants and oppressors. Palestine needs its own state and when this is achieved, time to grow and develop. Israel too has been deeply homophobic until very recently. Don't you remember the stabbing as late as at the 2015 Pride in Jerusalem, and Bezalel Smotrich, a Knesset member, calling the Pride a 'beast parade'.
@@ThreetwoOne-wu7yeThe issue is Islam, Read the Hamas Charter, it states that jihad is the only answer to destroy Israel, and all the world's Jews should be killed it has nothing to do with territory!!!
@@ThreetwoOne-wu7ye It is a majority vs. minority conflict. The middle east Arab Islamic majority cannot accept the existence of an independent state of a minority, be it of Maronites, Assyrians, Druze or others, especially of Jews. By Arab Islamic culture, if it is not dominated and controlled by an Arab Islamic regime then it is an occupation.
@@ef2718 Not it is Europe implanting a country in the middle East. Nothing to do with minority. But all Zionist will defend this thesis because it is the one that will profit Israel most but it is not for the good of mankind. Either you are a bit naive or not quite honest with yourself. It is understandable to a certain point. At some point you have to choose between truth and your tribe. Americans don't seem able to reach that point. They don't see that truth is better and that we can take it. I don't know the whole story. I listened to a Palestinian woman talking in a very one-sided manner as well, and it got on my nerves the same. Bye
Yeah why is the title accusing all of is in the US of this when that's not true? We Americans aren't all evil. Why are people saying this? Does Andrew want Americans to get killed to? Very disappointed
@@hanselmansell7555Interesting. How do you negotiate with an organization that hates Jews more than they love their own people? I have sympathy for what innocent Palestinians suffer because they are forced to live under a terrorist regime that has no problem sacrificing innocent Palestinians to further their cause of the complete destruction of Israel and Jews.
I responded to this discussion with Coleman Hughes on his channel which you directed us to for Part One of this hugely important issue. Thank you for introducing me to Coleman and his channel. I have subscribed to his channel as well.
How many Trump supporting right wingers are celebrating Hamas? Exactly. Also, I'm American. I see the absolute ridiculousness that Andrew is referring to. It absolutely is people from the left supporting Hamas. The funny Irony is- They are defending Hamas. A group that hates America. I'm sure there's a lot more about you than being a leftist. So don't make this Israel/ Hamas situation all about you and your feelings. Because it's actually more important than your feelings being hurt. Just saying ✌️
I think very very few actually are. There are people on the actual far left (not who get called the far left) who believe that the Palestinians have a right to violence resistance in that they literally have no other choice being imprisoned in the Gaza Strip and dominated by Israel. Those people are very similar to the people who think Israel has a right to murder innocent Palestinians. It is true that the Israeli government has grown increasingly extreme and volatile towards Palestine over the years and so, it’s not surprising that Hamas came into the picture and is getting more and more extreme. We know this happens. It happened after the Iraq war with Isis. When you watch your family members murdered, and witness horrific treatment of your people, your entire life, it would make it that much easier to be radicalized into believing these people hate you and that revenge is the only answer. Violence begets violence. Israel gov stopped trying to make peace with Palestine and has been increasingly hostile and controlling. Then when violence escalated, they become worse and it just keeps escalating. This guy interviewed thinks warfare that targets civilians is perfectly ok. Modern warfare has become more deadly for civilians than the military because of the bombing and refusal to use ground troops and risk the lives of soldiers. If you’re sacrificing babies for the lives of your soldiers, you are a war criminal in my mind. The actions of Hamas and Israeli both result in the same tragedy and neither will bring peace. Only more violence.
Bless you guys for this SANE conversation. Seriously. Thank You. (PS Coleman, I'm dying for you to do a 2nd interview with Benny Morris in the wake of the Hamas attacks. Couldn't be a more poignant time to do it). Thanks for your thoughtfulness guys.
I am Greek decent and, as a teacher, was told by my high school student: “Ms. M., I didn’t know you was white”. It really made me reflect, since in those days, I wasn’t really accepted as white! I always checked “other” or wrote in Hellenic” on forms!
@@English_By_The_Grace_Of_God Some samples of last 20 years: Nigeria vs Boko Haram 350,000 dead Sudan vs JEM/Darfur 300,000 dead Yemen vs Houthis 233,000 dead Pakistan vs Islamists 50,000 dead Syria's civil war 400,000 dead South Sudan's civil war 400,000 dead Ethiopia and Eritrea vs Tigray 600,000 dead Do you remember protests for all these dead? Me, neither. It is not about people or land in Gaza, it is about Islamic domination.
What a great conversation, this and the part on Coleman's channel. It's important to talk about this topic, rationally and calmly. Thank you for the video!
“There is only one language that Hamas understands: strength” (violence). I agree completely. My in-laws grew up in Morocco and told me the same thing about Arabs in general. I thought it extreme, yet I knew my in-laws were wise. That opinion has been shown to be true. My American liberal views have long since vanished. I live in Tel Aviv-Yafo and see the truth. My son-in-law is in the military reserves, and I feel a rush of pride seeing him in uniform. Just as I felt when I married an Israeli who’d been a paratrooper in the IDF. I side with Israel. We want to live.
As a mom of Marines and a “conservative Christian,” I honestly find these two groups of people the most lighthearted when it comes to joking about any kind of identity thing. Maybe because all Marines are “green,” first and all fellow believers are “family” first. Just my two cents. I loved this conversation.
A class act that believes in sacrificing innocent people as retaliation for the actions of others? Why is it such a strange idea to go after the Hamas individuals who actually did the killings without bombing the hell out of civilians?
@@mercurialshift5793the Hamas are hiding out underneath civilian places, including under hospitals. So they are using human shields of their own people.
Why can't we just love each other, what is happening today is absolutely horendous, these poor people going through this is inhumane, please stop destroying people ❤
You can't love a person IF that person's LIFE GOAL is to kill you and your whole family because they hate you and your family so much because their religion tells them they HAVE TO hate you and MUST hate you. The worse thing is, that person whose life goal is to kill you and your family? His family and his friends' life goals are also TO KILL you and your whole family because they have the same religoin. Yes, those kind of people do exist in REALITY and you have seen recently in the news the evil they could do. Well, Okay, if you must insist, you can love those persons who want to kill you and your whole family. But when you and your family are killed, those persons who want to kill you and your family are not going to be remorseful or feel bad for killing you. They will celebrate that you and your family are dead. So that explains why to say that "why can't we just love each other and everything will be peaceful" cannot happen in the REAL WORLD. Because in the real world, there are people WHO WANT TO HATE and WANT TO DO EVIL THINGS to other people because their prophet and their religion commands them that they must hate you and they must do evil things to you and your family unless you convert to their religion.
Im a Catholic who married an Israeli Mossad and it was an extremely mixed blessing. I met an amazingly diverse number of people. A South African Jewish person asked why I'd married an Israeli, as if they were not good. Conversely she thought I was Jewish, which Im not. He was an Ashkenazi jew whose first wife was Moroccan Sephanic. Different looks. Weird????
There are morons and scumbags on both sides of this tragedy, and both sides' extremists want to discredit the middle ground. You can have the most deserving cause in the world but murdered children will still be murdered children, however murdered children also doesn't justify more murdered children
@@powderandpaint14 precisely my point, sadly though there are people effectively claiming that objecting to dead Palestinian children means you are in favour of dead Israeli children
@Buzz359 exactly, and in times like this people must stand firm against all these atrocities, as I said murdered children will always be murdered children, whose children is irrelevant
Im 50 and when i was a teenager the idea of someone being a holocaust denier would be totally crackpot, today alot of teenagers genuinely dont know what the holocaust is, the modern conspiracy popularity could influence niave people
Very interesting chaps. I'm a 62 year old, white woman, brought up in the East end. Immigration was always present because of the docks. Nobody took any notice as long as people worked hard and contributed to the Community. Sadly, that isn't how it works now. Englands 'class structure' has always been a massive problem, we always felt that the rich kept us back. That seems to have been replaced by the need to find differences in people, usually the colour of someones skin. Keep up the good work Andrew, i hope your family stay safe
I've always said I went to school with the United Nations, we had Asians, Yugoslavians ( as they were then ) Jews, Aboriginals, Lebanese, Poles, Czechoslovakians, and probably any other nationally you can name. We all ate at each other's homes ( broke bread together) we all studied and played together, and we grew up together some of these friendships have lasted over 45 years, we frankly don't give a rat's arse what a person's ethnicity is. I've travelled extensively the world and it would be a much better place if we all had that type of melting pot.
I am a Christian with a very precious Jewish extended family It beggars belief as to why in the world it makes a difference what nationality, race or color anyone happens to be. I assume it comes from deep seated fear and inferiority complex. I am sometimes intimidated by very intelligent or talented people because I would like to be like them! Anyway, your podcast is extremely balanced and sane. Thank you ... and may the God you cannot believe in bless you and keep you safe!
Andrew.... Words are never enough....but i will still continusely say I'm sorry....i can't begin to imagine what you and thousands of others are going through. please know there are people who care and do not have evil at heart. Thank you ❤
@@DeathRayGraphics I will repeat again.... I can't imagine. I don't know why you are focusing anger at me. I now realize I am better off keeping what I feel to myself and I will. Thank you for your honesty.
@@gailkelly6154 Andrew is not actually going through ANYTHING. (I mean-- am I wrong? Did he say that he has family in Israel? I don't think he did). So, while what is happening in Israel may pluck his heartstrings as a Jew, it is pretty rich of him to be outraged on behalf of the Israelis under attack right now (actually, the attack is over), but be willfully ignorant of the daily oppression of the Arabs inside Israel which has preceded this violence. This was not an attack on "Jews". It was an attack on Israel. It is the natural result of apartheid. Not justified, but inevitable.
I found you through Shaun Atwood (who I don’t often watch anymore) and your channel has been the best by a mile on this subject. My mother died when I was 11 and my dad succumbed to alcohol from then on. I was welcomed into my best friend’s home and family who looked after me and taught me so much. I’m 58 now and moved down south from Leeds to Somerset. He’s still my best friend and now lives in California and we talk at least for an hour or two every week. Here most of my friends are left wing and believe in being ‘good’. They were largely in the corbyn camp of thinking. The chants of “Oh Jeremy Corbyn” rang out at Glastonbury last time I went, 2019 I think. It’s very difficult to engage in conversation with them on the subject of Israel/Palestine so I now steer them towards your channel. Thank you for all your work Andrew.
Progressive Democrats are reforming the party from the bottom up, it takes time. depending on where you are you may or may not be seeing progress. California we are… Its hard. whatever you choose to do, make sure its progress and do no harm.
I feel the same way, if this is what the left celebrate than, I don't want to be a part of it. I guess I'm not as left leaning I thought I was. I'm really more middle grounded.
There is a huge difference between Democratic Politicians and the insane far left on the ground. Its gonna be a long time till progressives get popular enough to vote in their own president instead of having to rally behind a more moderate established candidate. This is to say just because the left sucks doesn't make the right great right now either. Personal politics should always be more center focused so you can evaluate events and policies individually without having to buy into some package deal of beliefs.
I’ve reached my limit. I don’t know how you two manage to be so damned calm about this. Even Sam Harris is reaching his limit. Douglas Murray is cathartic for me right now.
I am fifty - and went to school in a southern African country that was mixed. Noone gave the Jewish kids a bad time there, we were mystified when they had celebrations and I remember being confused that they wouldn't get Xmas presents. But that was about it, we were altogether quite fine. I hope you wear your star with pride.
This is what I don't understand in this world, that shouldn't be, we are all different & should be allowed to be proud of that, it's not a bad thing, I guess we could say it Proves that people of the light & people of the dark can not coexist.
Agree with all of your points and everything. And as an Israeli I really appreciate the coverage and the conversation... But I also want to acknowledge the beautiful colour grade both of you have, incredible job by the editor! I rarely notice how good a colour grade looks, but this one is really nice, and stands out in a really good way
Wow, it's my first time on your channel - just stumbled upon it. I was so impressed by your eloquence and intelligent reasoning (so hard to find these days) that I just had to subscribe. Thank you for presenting such a balanced and level-headed perspective.
@@blakesleyk.7166 aww thank you. Unfortunately autocorrect decided to write ‘isn’t’ as opposed to ‘is’ but never mind, I’ve amended it now. And Coleman really is a great thinker, glad to discover him with the wonderful Mr Gold.
Im horrified by some people's response. Its unfathomable to me. Ignorance isn't an explanation. Its evil whats happened in Israel. Personally i won't have anyone in my life in any meaningful way that thinks this is in anyway understanable or justified
It is not but neither is the behaviour of Israel. You can’t kill more babies as a response to babies being killed and think that makes sense. Clearly the violence over the decades towards Palestine has only created more violence. It’s not that hard to realize you can’t trap people in an open air prison and expect anything good to come if it. When you create hellish conditions, hell spills over eventually. That’s not a justification. That’s sociology. It’s what we’ve learned from history.
It may not have been justified, but as for understandable, if you can't understand why it happened, you're ignoring 70 years of history, as well as the massive power imbalance between the two sides and how that can lead to desperate acts. Not everyone is willing to take the moral high ground while they're being slowly but forcibly displaced or outright killed for your land, but it's really easy to take the moral high ground when you're safe in another country.
@@jc3drums916 You seem to be very generous of the palestinian people when they have throughout the history of this conflict been the aggressor. Weakness is not a virtue.
@@jc3drums916what are you talking about? Gaza is ruled by Hamas, which they elected themselves. Israel had withdrawn from there since 2005, as a peace gesture. Tons of money in aid were flowing there from Europe, USA, Katar, and all over the world. They could build another Dubai there, if they wanted. Instead, they invested in tunnels, weapons and perpetuating hate
@@jc3drums916just read the history. The Palestinians have consistently been the aggressor. Israel would not even be an occupying force otherwise. If they got it together and got some good political leadership there would be peace tomorrow.
Hi Andrew love your channel Im from Australia catholic thank you for teaching me about your lineage and thank you for educating me about what is going on right now in Israel I feel for you and your fiance and hope everyone is safe please keep doing your videos about what is going in there you are a great human being escuse my spelling have had a stroke so difficult to spell things sometimes take care
"Some on the left" would be better, "a small minority on the left" would be more accurate but "the left" is just a sweeping generalisation, as a fan of the channel I'm kinda disappointed TBH
@diannetex what? I'm hardly demanding he change his point of view lol. If anyone can't see how referring to "the left " as a whole is problematic I don't know what to tell you, after all just in the uk "the left" is several million people at the very least
@susandelgado6926 well it's the guys channel so he can write what he wants and its not really important enough to get outraged about, its only a TH-cam vid after all, hardly matters compared to the real world, and to be fair he has changed it to the far left, which is still a generalisation, I'm pretty far left myself and everyone I know is as outraged as me by the atrocities of both sides
Andrew makes a good point. In Britain, we have no concept of "African British" whereas American's label each other as "African American" or "Italian American" etc. In Britain, a citizen is singularly British and your ethnicity has no bearing. This is a consequence of us Brits being much less prone to racialising everything with a pulse, unlike in the U.S, and that's a good thing.
But just like EVERYTHING that reaches our shores from America, all be it several years later, such hyper racialised mindset is most certainly permeating the UK.
Glad to have found your channel Andrew. You and Coleman come across as very reasoned, honest and thoughtful people on these terribly difficult issues, which is rare these days; and I have learned a lot from you both. One thing i never really understood though, is how you can still retain a religion based identity, once you have left that religion and become an athiest? Wouldnt you just resort to your ethnic ancestry as your root identity? For example, I'm from a Bangladeshi Muslim family, but I decided to leave the religion of islam and i am no longer a Muslim. I resorted back to my ethnic cultural identity as a Bengali, and would never identity as a Muslim anymore, even though my family and everyone from my background still are Muslims.. So similarly, wouldn't it be the case that, for someone like you, Andrew, who is from an east European Jewish family, but is atheist and doesn't believe in the Jewish religion, wouldn't your ethnic identity simply be east european, russian/ukrainian, instead of still Jewish? For example, there are European Christians, African Christians, Asian Christians and the same goes for people of other religions. And if they leave their religion, they still have their ethnic identity, be it African or European. Why is it that only with Judaism, that you are still considered a Jew even if you no longer believe?
This is an understandable question, since many people view Judaism as a religion only. The truth is that it's a lot more intricate and complex than that. Judaism is a religion, but it's not only a religion - that's the short answer to explain why people can be non-believing and non-observant, yet still identify as Jewish in culture/heritage/ethnicity. You can't fit Jews and Judaism into a neat box. We share a common race for the most part - but according to the true definition of a race you can't enter into a race since it's based on biology. A person can convert to Judaism and become a Jew, so we're not really a race. Some might categorize us as an ethnicity, but that wouldn't account for the religious component. We're not a nationality either because our identity isn't dependent on a specific land (though obviously we call Israel our homeland, we continue to exist outside of it as well. A nationality is tied to a specific place by definition). So to answer your question, for many Jews, being Jewish is their core and root identity. We may be Jewish AND another race or nationality, but for many of us we are Jews at our core. For those of us who are observant Jews, the religion and are a huge piece of that. But many Jews who don't believe still identify themselves as Jews. Certainly, many of the people over the years who have wanted to eliminate the Jews have not differentiated based on whether a Jew was or was not religious - all they care about is ridding the world of Jews.
Jewish people were chased out of all those countries by pogroms and other forms of oppression, long before the holocaust even happened. I think this is why they don’t identify with those nationalities. If you want to know more, there are some interesting videos and podcasts regarding this phenomena.
@te9693 very good of you to give such a detailed response. Also totally agree. It's complicated but at the end of the day those coming for the Jews do not care about the delineations and so that has to be a big component of the identification.
People shouldn't be celebrating any innocent deaths on either side. I don't believe the average Palestinian is anymore intrested in murder than the average Israeli. We always take the bait though don't we!
Unfortunately, this is not true. through the Strife palestinians have taught their children to absolutely hate the Jews in every which way and most of the children. If you ask them what they aspire to be are killers of Jews.
@@ChienaAvtzon Call them what you will. I call them prisoners of war and I know good and well most of them aren't interested in being slaughtered for murdering others and going straight to Hell. They aren't stupid. I'd sooner believe our own government set the whole thing up anyway. That's exactly what they have a long history of doing. It's no secret that Hamas wouldn't exist today anyway if they weren't backed up by the Israelis to being with they use them to keep their prisoners of war divided. What if a group of lunatics from your city murdered a bunch of people from another town and the government's response was to just start randomly killing the residents of your city by the tens of thousands, maybe more. That would be literally insane.
@@ChienaAvtzon I'd love to know where you picked up this silly and completely untrue idea. All of modern (fake) Israel, including the West Bank and Gaza had been occupied by Palestinians for a very, very long prior to WWII and modern Zionism, which is utterly Satanic on it's face. If God wishes to give that land to his people, for starters, he'd actually put his people there instead of the impersonators who are there today and he wouldn't use the most evil Satanic people on earth from the UN to accomplish it with the help of the Rothschilds.
What are your thoughts? If you enjoyed this, please do hit like and share on socials because that makes the video spread to the world.
PLEASE LOOK INTO WHAT THE ISRAILI TROOPS HAVE DONE TO THE PALESTINIAN CHRISTIANS AND MUSLIMS, HOW THEY ARE SEGREGATED AND TREATS AS HUTLETER TREATED THE JEWS IM WW2 - YOU SAY YOU ARE UNBIASED, PLEASE PLEASE LOOK INTO IT!! THEY HAVE TAKENNOVER THE COUNTRY FROM 6% TO OVER 80% AND REFUSE PEACE AS THEY SEE PALESTINIANS AS LESS THAN, CHRISTIANS AND JEWS. BETHLEHEM IS IN PALESTINE!! YOU NEED TO LOOK INTO THE HISTORY AND MORE OF WHATS BEEN GOING ON, DON'T BE JADED BY THE HURT OF WHATS HAPPENING TO YOUR FAMILY, IT'S AFFECTING EVERYONE, YOU MUST BE UNBIASED, WE NEED SOMEONE TO UNCOVER THE MAINSTREAM MEDIA. PLEASE!! THIS ISN'T JUST MUSLIMS BUT CHRISTIANS TOO THAT ARE DYING. I CAN SHARE INF INFORMATION, HISTORY. PLEASE ANDREW
Have an interview with Gilad Atzmon, I am sure he would oblige
Left, right, centre, they all sicken me; take the side of oppressors when it suits them!
Folks, if you like Andrew's reporting, not just on this situation but everything he done, so please do check out his work on many other subjects too, he is also on Locals.
There is a growing group of genuine and really lovely people there. andrewgold.locals.com/ There is free option. Andrew also has a code to get three free months where you can interact with everyone and chat on lives there etc...
Zero censorship, only rule is be kind to each other.
As no matter how we agree on, we will always find things where we don't agree. And Locals is growing and somewhere people are caring and understanding and can agree to differ or discuss things in calm reasoned manner.
I really found this interview very interesting, many people here in the states including myself, think if more people would look at themselves as Americans, (as a whole) would be better than separating ourselves into categories of Italian American, Mexican Americans ect that as American culture would be more unified, it seems here that many people put more into the ancestry then they do American culture, American culture IS a mixture of people who are seeking basically the same goals, freedom to pursue a good life for our families ect..
Hearing the crowd in NYC cheering the news of the massacre was one of the most terrifying things ive ever seen.
Shocking
PAYBACK IS A BITCH ISN'T IT - TABLES HAD TURNED - FOR ONCE - ISRAEL GOT A TASTE OF THEIR OWN MEDICINE - THEY HAVE BEHAVE FAR WORSE THAN THE NAZIS!
What are you talking about? what precisely do you know?
@@msbramble176 th-cam.com/video/GRfUI3-mr24/w-d-xo.html at the 13.44 mark
Useful idiots, moral imbeciles.
As a secular gay Jew, I cannot imagine anything more utterly asinine as 'Queers for Palestine'.
Well said I totally agree.
Thankl you :) @@bibsann861
Absolutely?
You're right. It's like saying 'humanitarians for Israel'
@@DK-pn8bd where Arabs have the same human rights as Jews. Can you say the same for 'Palestine'? No.
Him saying that "sympathy is a luxury of the safe", or something to that effect, hit me hard. He's so correct. We are so ignorant in the West.
traveling will change all that, for sure!
You speak for yourself, there are plenty of informed people in the west; many of them are journalists, intellectuals, activists and other humanitarians who’ve been speaking the truth about the colonization of the Palestinian people for decades and no one would listen and they still aren’t but the tide is turning. Andrew has to find the only racist black man from America to come on his show to spoon feed you his Zionist messaging.
So true
.It is the Theocracy in Iran that is behind this war. They want to rule the entire world. No religious freedom, no freedom of speech, no rights for women, just the old men with their theocracy. And it is not the Iranian people. They too want to be free. The Theocratic rulers are the cause and the enemy of the human race. They can't be reasoned with, they are the sworn enemy of reason. If they have their bloody triumph (they would use nuclear weapons) there will be no more freedom of religion, no more music, art, literature, cultures, and nations. There will only be them, asserting their authority is from their vision of God. What they did to those Israeli women, children, families, homes, and the elderly is what they wish for the entire human race. Horror and death. They say it quite clearly. When people tell you what they are, believe them. Every other human conflict among nations pales in importance. This is the greatest menace to everyone. The Iranian theocracy wants to conquer the entire world. The US and Israel are their are their main targets now. But there is no nation they will allow to be free in any form. And even if they form ugly alliances with North Korea, Russia, and China, those alliances too are temporary. If the US and Israel fall, North Korea, Russia, and China would probably celebrate our destruction. For a time. But they too are in the Iranian Theocracy eye sights. They won't stop until every culture, every tradition that is not their own, every people is crushed into "submission". Unless we stop them.
I have mixed feelings. I am from the US and when 9-11 happen Bush was looking to get even/look strong with the attackers and went after the wrong country (Iraq) and wasted billions of dollars, created an opioid crisis at home through corruption in the poppy fields, and spent 20 years getting nothing done while killing lots of people. I have long thought that if we had turned the other check to the terrorists and challenged them to the negotiation table, but we could have had the world on our side it finding and stopping the problem. I might be naïve, but what my nation did was totally idiotic and seems like it came out of the worse timeline. I wonder if a bit of sympathy would have been a bit better.
“You can’t negotiate with someone that wants to kill you.” --Golda Meir
It worked with the IRA 🤷
Golda Meir was a psychopath on the level of Jeffery Dahmer.
@@lorree1the IRA didn't want to wipe England off the map though
@@motherofone979 Tell that to the numerous people injured and the families of those killed by the IRA at Aldershot, Westminster, Harrods, The Hilton, London Tower, West Ham, Walton's, Green Park, Cannon Street, West Ham, Camden, Eltham, Wembley, Woolwich, Canary Wharf, Olympia, Canvey Island, Brighton, Birmingham, Guildford, Bristol, Manchester, Warrington...and so on...
In what way?@@tumslucks9781
Love that Andrew allows his guests to speak without butting in , a lesson in media journalism interviews for every other host.Great response from Colman,clear precise and without drama.bless you both .
I agree. I don't often watch interviews anymore on other channels. I love how Andrew has figured this out so professionally and enjoyable.
Andrew is the best interviewer out there!
Be quiet, you don't know what you are saying
I literally thought about what a good listener he is on another video I saw earlier of his. You're right 👍
I just love that he let this guy spew out hateful propaganda non stop without push back, what that does is propagandize the public and that’s exactly what the intent was here. No one knows who his guest is in the states except for one of the few right wing black conservatives who doesn’t believe there is discrimination against black people in America, I’ve got some news for him 😂😂.
It is terrifying how easily people fall into tribalism. There have been absolutely sickening things said on both sides of this conflict by people not there.
Someone legit messaged me on insta saying 'gaza is ready come in we'll give what you deserve, you pigs that hitler sadly failed to wipe' bro what the hell is wrong with ppl
I keep ignoring streams on it for this reason. It is popping up all over my algorithm though and so many people chiming in on a foreign war. When innocent people on both sides are dying. It actually makes me sick to see people taking sides so insanely. In fact with that. I am departing and watching another video 😂 I am fine with andrew’s streams he isn’t like that. But still can’t handle it.
@@WhoAreYou-.-. Only one side raises their children to hate and kill all Jews.
Israeli Jews go to school, work with and live alongside Arabs. Israeli children aren't taught that Arabs must be killed. So, no, there aren't good people on both sides.
@@WhoAreYou-.-.just came across this video and NYC Jews SHUT DOWN Grand Central Station in support of the Palestinians being just slaughtered by Zionists in Gaza in the apartheid racist state of Israel. Two entirely different groups of people. Many of the dead on the 7th were very possibly merked by the IDF as the state of Israel has a Hannibal Direcive to eliminate hostages along with 'terrorists' to prevent having to deal with hostage situations and there are reports of Hamas waiting for HOURS while telling the hostages to call the IDF in as they wanted a fight with the state. As far as the Zionists in Israel go, there are a ton of TikTok videos of the settlers mocking the Palestinians being slaughtered. Conflating American Jews with Israeli Zionist settlers is so disingenuous.
Some samples of last 20 years:
Nigeria vs Boko Haram 350,000 dead
Sudan vs JEM/Darfur 300,000 dead
Yemen vs Houthis 233,000 dead
Pakistan vs Islamists 50,000 dead
Syria's civil war 400,000 dead
South Sudan's civil war 400,000 dead
Ethiopia and Eritrea vs Tigray 600,000 dead
Do you remember protests for all these dead?
Me, neither.
It is not about people or land in Gaza.
I don't believe there is any coming back from this division. Any person who celebrates murder can only be described as evil. Not only are there celebrations and dancing in the streets, but there is outright denial by others. This division is going to be a major problem very soon.
They danced yesterday. Displayed a dead, gang-raped naked non-Israeili woman on their vehicle, they cheered. Now they bury their sons and daughters today and tomorrow and the day after tomorrow too.
At least they have openly shown themselves. These people were always there, hiding behind oppression narratives and Identity politics.
Fundamentalist Islamists are not a group that should be allowed a voice.
Islam should be put under intense scrutiny because it speaks in 2 tongues, one to its enemies and one to its believers.
The worst part about this all are the naive progressive women and LGBT people who cozy up to people who would kill or oppress them if they had a chance.
The moderate left needs to wake up, see who their far left "friends" are openly supporting and disown all the monsters, Islamists and Tankies alike.
They made it clear "this is what a revolution looks like" in their eyes and they want one in america.
It already is and has been for a very long time…
I’m left and I’m not celebrating anything in reference to this subject. I’m horrified by it all and utterly gutted.
The headline is slander. But pro Israel supporters, can and do say anything they like.
@@mrsbrown1705 it can't be slander as slander is spoken, libel is written. And no it isn't libelous either. It is opinion. Which everyone has a right to. Even if we cannot all agree on our opinions. I'm a Barrister btw.
What is happening is that a small number of people on boths sides are playing politics and power games and it is us normal ordinary folks who die. No different to when I was growing up in Northern Ireland. But the IRA didn't fire rockets from schools and hospitals, unlike Hamas. And Hamas know that Israel always will fire back from where the rocket was launched. They then get their optics for the rest of the world. when they chose to have their own people killed for optics.
Just as the haredi population of Israel keep voting in the far right Netanyahu who is mad for the power too. He sacked all the good intelligence officers and put in yes men. And it is the people who are paying the price. But HAredis are exempt from military service. Unlike muslims born in Israel who do have to do their National Service in the IDF. Imagine how that feels. That the people voting in mad men on both sides, are either radialised by the murder of their families which is technically done by israel yet their kids would still be alive if Hamas hadn't fired the rocket for the school their child attends. It's all kinds of f**cked up just like Northern Ireland was.
But we have peace now, relative peace. People are not dying anymore. There is hope eternal and we must always as ordinary people, hold onto this. As I never thought I'd see peace in my life time in northern ireland but yet it happened before I even turned 20!!! The Peace Agreement was the first time I was able to vote on anything in fact.
I have not seen anyone on "the left" celebrating what Hamas did. I have seen many people voicing support for Palestinian people, but that is a different thing.
75 YEARS OF PALESTINIAN GENOCIDE AND MURDER SINCE 1948 AND STILL ONGOING!!!
PLEASE 🙏 READ THE LETTER FROM THE ENGLISH AFRED BALFOUR TO THE EXTREMELY WEALTHY JEWISH LORD ROTHSCHILD - TELLING HIM TO INFORM THE ZIONIST FEDERATION THAT THE MEMBERS OF PARLIAMENT IN BRITAIN 🇬🇧 HAD AGREED TO CREATE A JEWISH RELIGIOUS STATE UPON THE PEOPLE OF PALESTINE 🇵🇸 - AND IN THIS LETTER THE NATIVE INDIGENOUS ARAB POPULATION OF PALESTINE ARE DISMISSIVELY REFERRED TO AS NON-JEWISH RESIDENTS/ NON-JEWISH POPULATION… ANDREW IS UTTERLY CLUELESS AS TO HIS OWN COUNTRIES INVOLVEMENT IN THE STEALING OF PALESTINE BY THE ZIONIST FEDERATION - AND HIS OLD TESTAMENT/ TORAH SCRIPTURES - WHERE HIS “GOD” TELLS HIS ANCESTOR ABRAHAM “TO GO DOWN TO CANAAN AND SMITE ALL OF THE CANAANITES!!!”
THE CANAANITES ARE THE ANCESTORS OF THE PHILISTINES WHO ARE THE ANCESTORS OF PRESENT DAY INDIGENOUS NATIVE PALESTINIANS!!!
IT HAS BEEN THEIR HOMELAND FOR THOUSANDS OF YEARS!!!
ABRAHAM WAS TOLD TO TAKE HIS FATHER TERAH AND MOVE OUT OF THE CITY OF UR IN PRESENT DAY IRAQ - DOWN TO CANAAN AND TO SMITE ALL OF THE CANAANITES - AND IF ABRAHAM AGREED TK FIGHT ALL OF THIS “GOD’S” WARS FOR HIM - HE WOULD MAKE HIM AND HIS DESCENDANTS “HIS CHOSEN PEOPLE”
MY LEBANESE AUNTY TOLD ME THAT THE TWO BLUE LINES ON THE FLAG OF ISRAEL 🇮🇱 MEAN “FROM THE NILE TO THE EUPHRATES” - MEANING THEIR “GOD” PROMISED HIS CHOSEN PEOPLE ALL OF THE LAND FROM THE NILE RIVER IN EGYPT 🇪🇬 TO THE EUPHRATES RIVER IN IRAQ 🇮🇶
@@powderandpaint14 sadly there have been many comments I've seen celebrating the deaths of innocent Jews. And the other way round too. It's f**ked up.
Men at the top play their politics and power games and we all die. Ordinary people on both sides.
I'm so glad I found your program on TH-cam and Rumble. Your logic and reasoning is such a gift. It's something we desperately need now. Thank you.
please come join Andrew on Locals as well, andrewgold.locals.com/
He does uncensored lives and there are some really genuine and lovely people there.
I don’t really know any Jews personally, but since I was a kid and first learned about the Holocaust, it broke my heart and I just couldn’t believe it happened. How people can hate one group of people so much for zero reason. Growing up christian, I was always taught that the Jews were Gods chosen people and since the beginning of time they have been hated on. I’ve always been confused by this. In august I visited Auschwitz and was in tears the entire time. I have a soft spot in my heart for Jews because they have been treated terribly for zero reason. Now this has happened, and I can’t even believe what I’m hearing people say. People actually defending terrorists. It makes me so sad. My heart is with the Israeli people ❤ I’m sad by all innocent lives lost on both sides. It’s just all so very sad and heartbreaking all around 💔
What you just said is the reason why Jews have joined ProPalestinians rallies. They've been through ethnic cleansing in Germany and don't want to see it happening again with the Gazans who are trapped in the world's largest concentration camp in the world. This fight isn't against Jews and Palestinians but against all montheists in the area and Zionists. Rabbi Dovid Weiss is one of the biggest advocates of the rallies as well as Jewish Voice for Peace. And the whole beheading babies and rape thing already got retracted because it was a lie propagated to justify the complete annihilation of Palestinians in Gaza
I so agree! I had friends in elementary school whose grandparents came from Europe on vacation in the summer and they had SURVIVED the holocaust. We heard their stories first hand. I’m 60, but never thought NEVER that this could happen again. Until now. And I’m shocked and horrified 💔🇮🇱💔
I have seen so much J hatred online. They are having a field day hating on J's, right now.
Sadly, it makes me think oh, ok, I see how the Holocaust happened.
Palestinians are not terrorist, Hamas is the terrorist who runs the Gaza Strip. Years ago they were voted in but they have not held elections in years. They are a militant dictatorship. No Palestinian could speak out against them. Not every Palestinian joined Hamas or agree with Hamas. I am sure Hamas recruited Palestinians. Palestinians are some of the poorest people on the planet. They were an oppressed people. If you want to know about the Palestinians read my comment in this thread I wrote about them. And the views I had in the beginning. I thought they were part of Hamas, but that is not true.
Agree but Palestinians have also been treated wrong by Jewish people when it comes to land.
I'm a Brit and I relate to what Andrew says about our mainstream TV. I was an absolute BBC TV & Radio 4 devotee for most of my life, but a few years back I just started to find it weird & unwatchable. It seemed to me like it had stopped understanding humour, nuance, human relations, & people's desire for democracy. I felt the more it trumpeted its virtue & inclusivity, the more insufferable & elitist it became. I'm a hated GB News watcher these days. They are a bit low-brow for my tastes, but at least the don't despise ordinary working class British citizens and their desire for stability & security in their lives. The BBC can't even bring themselves to describe HAMAS as 'Terrorists' for God's Sakes! WTF?
It’s all a bit too much hypocrisy, isn’t it really? The never ending scandals particularly in and around SA or sexual impropriety really does go against everything they claim to stand for. In the wake of the current Brand scandal, I found the public reaction to instant (alleged) victim blaming far too familiar and far too triggering which resulted in finding Andrew’s channel to begin with. I must admit, I find Gold’s ‘middle-ground’ approach far more realistic, pleasant and a far more fair minded approach than any mainstream has currently to offer.
Look I'm Irish, I have always found BBC radio 4 weird, they are simply without perception, instead the build concepts to the level of insane abstractions. Once a year, I will listen to one of their plays to see how far the insanity has gone, in fact their plays stopped making sense a few years ago. As a woman, I found Woman's Hour the most selfish pathetic and utterly oppressive slurry that ever poured through the air ways.
I'm an Irish woman, too. Pushing hysteria and rage is standard in our media. Convincing young people we're all terrible and their lives are miserable when one trip to a developing country will open their eyes. They're also hidden from the cold, hard reports we had. Basic news: This happened, that happened - here's the weather. 😂
I saw women and gays protesting for palestine and last month I saw a report in the middle east celebrating the execution of gays and a 'women are vile' opinion piece for using social media. Bonkers stuff. Middle Eastern news and Arabic comments translated for me are mocking western white protests. Threatening us.
BBC has called them terrorists.. you wouldn’t know you don’t follow BBC anymore
So, politically aware people with compassion, and an actual awareness of history,and have a better grasp of what actually going on are "bonkers" because you're too ignorant to try and find the truth or understand what's actually going on....
Again, make it make sense!!!
Coleman is right about what Israel's options are for recourse. Israel really does NOT have any options other than retaliate...and to retaliate HARD. Their lives, their safety and actually the "right" to actually live & survive all depends upon how they respond. If Israel were to just retaliate with only sanctions, such a response would just be a green light to Hamas to plan another attack that's even more severe, because they would think that they could actually attain what it is they want...which is to end the life of each & every Jewish individual. Weakness or half measures are absolutely not options to Israel. Their actual existence depends upon a very rigorous defense. Andrew, glad you invited Coleman to give his perspectives.
So do the Palestinians have the right to try and “retaliate HARD” against decades of massacres, land theft, rape, humiliation, lack of basic rights ?
This was such an interesting discussion. I love that you both showed each other so much respect and curiosity
Praying for all the innocents affected in both Israel and Gaza 🙏🏽 Praying for peace in the Middle East 🕊️
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Have you contacted your congressman? They can only hear phone calls, not prayers.
@@DeathRayGraphicsMaybe you can, since that's your idea.
@@Murgatroydian And what will YOU be doing that might actually have material influence?
I'm also going to do nothing ...
I'm a north-Londoner, daughter of a catholic mother & jewish refugee father. I grew up near Golders Green, which has a large jewish community, and this fact often drew the kind of comments Christopher Hitchens called 'off-the-cuff British anti-semitism'. As a woman I got that extra dollop of misogynism. I've been told that I have a 'jewish nose', that I'm a 'jewish neurotic' - even though I'm pretty level-headed, and that I'm a 'jewish princess' - despite very clearly always living modestly and from cheque to cheque. Now I do speak up if someone says something anti-semitic, but it's taken me many years to get to this point and when I was young, I said nothing and I look back and realise that it was destructive.
I know that this is a time of infinite sadness, of fear, of discouragement. But I wanted to tell you, Andrew , as a message of friendship, the favorite Jewish joke of Raymond Aubrac, one of the greatest and highest figures of the French Resistance during the WW2.
- Why are we sure that Jesus is Jewish?
- Because at 30 years old, he still lives with his parents, he adores his mother and his mother takes him for god.
As for the rest, I am very impressed by the quality of this extremely interesting exchange. I also like that you dare to talk about the existential question of Jewishness as you experience it in the UK. I have nothing special to say except I'm learning a lot by listening to you.
Thank you so much !
Coleman is very bright and sort of soothing to listen to. I like him very much.
This is my first time watching you Andrew. I was brought over by Coleman, who I love. Thank you so much for your vulnerability and honesty. One of the last things you said about if an Italian guy living in the Uk has kids, they are just British. I’m sure this is why the British, Irish, etc find it so obnoxious when some Americans reference their ancestry. Of course we are all Americans, but many either also identify as or give reverence to that ancestry.
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@@bl4531 I mean all American citizens are Americans.
It’s so true! We in the US are attempting to view the situation in Israel/Gaza in terms of the Civil Rights movement and the two situations are not even close to being the same. This is unlike anything we’ve ever seen or experienced firsthand.
We honestly have no idea how complex and tragic this really is. 9/11 is just a small sample of what Israel has been through in the past 75 years. Imagine if that was happening all the time here for decades.
Most people are comparing it to South Africa, not America
This has to be the most tone deaf hilariously clueless Zionist comment ever.
It looks like a made-up invented country, that's built on stolen land doesn't work out so well, what an absolute shocker!....
Especially ironic given the colonialist history of the situation and the fact that the instigators were the British.
Again, what a surprise!
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ARE YOU FUCKING KIDDING ME - IT IS THE PALESTINE THAT HAVE BEEN DEALING WITH ISRAELIS TYRANT!
The ancient community of Jews that used to live in Gaza perished in Islamist riots of 1929, concurrent with dozens of other communities, the massacre in Hebron was documented, you can see the photos of that ISIS style massacre in archives of the NYT. Photos like the gut churning photos of the massacre of Oct. 7 only in black and white.
*In 1929 the massacres were committed mostly by mobs.
1929 is 19 years before the rebirth of Israel, 38 years before Israel got into Gaza strip, 37 years before the process of appropriating the title Palestinians by Arabs even started.
I just subscribed to Coleman's page too. Thank you Andrew for introducing me to him. Whenever I can find a normal person I want to keep them in my circle. 🍁🍂😊
A normal person who justifies killing thousands of civilians? They’re bombing indiscriminately. The Israeli gov is as bad, if not worse than Hamas because they will kill thousands. It will only create a new generation of Hamas of the children who survive the massacre. They can’t even leave Palestine. They’re sitting ducks. What Hamas did was horrific. This is just more of the same senseless killing.
Thank you both! You both seem to be just such good, honest people.
Thank you for your posts, so important to talk about what is happening, so much fake news out there hard to decipher through it all. My family is still safe, everyone is just trying to get through this difficult time 🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻 there is so much good though happening at the same time
Hoping they remain safe.
So glad you are talking to Coleman Hughes. As a “boomer,” the two of you give me hope for the future. Keep the dialogue going.
Thank you for this reasoned, thoughtful and intelligent discussion.
but, Andrew did not introduce him...I want to know who he is...loved listening to him....
Coleman Hughes. Every word. Well said. You are a morally candid and assertive and on the right side of history, ethics and morality.
I'm left and what Hamas did to Israeli citizens (of all ages) is beyond words.
We need to learn more about all that-
The ancient community of Jews that used to live in Gaza perished in Islamist riots of 1929, concurrent with dozens of other communities, the massacre in Hebron was documented, you can see the photos of that ISIS style massacre in archives of the NYT. Photos like the gut churning photos of the massacre of Oct. 7 only in black and white.
*In 1929 the massacres were committed mostly by mobs.
1929 is 19 years before the rebirth of Israel, 38 years before Israel got into Gaza strip, 37 years before the process of appropriating the title Palestinians by Arabs even started.
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Palestinians had never attacked Jews in the centuries they lived together The reason was not related to religion.
This is not to justy the riots, but spreaing the notion that Jews were targetted brcause they were Jews i and linking he attack to Islamism, is unacceptable and irresponsable.
' The British-appointed Shaw Commission found that the fundamental cause of the violence, "without which in our opinion disturbances either would not have occurred or would have been little more than a local riot, is the Arab feeling of animosity and hostility towards the Jews consequent upon the disappointment of their political and national aspirations and fear for their economic future",[6] as well as Arab fears of Jewish immigrants "not only as a menace to their livelihood but as a possible overlord of the future'".
Wikipedia'
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Some samples of last 20 years:
Nigeria vs Boko Haram 350,000 dead
Sudan vs JEM/Darfur 300,000 dead
Yemen vs Houthis 233,000 dead
Pakistan vs Islamists 50,000 dead
Syria's civil war 400,000 dead
South Sudan's civil war 400,000 dead
Ethiopia and Eritrea vs Tigray 600,000 dead
Do you remember protests for all these dead?
Me, neither.
It is not about people or land in Gaza, it is about Islamic domination.
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Qualifying the riots as 'Islamists' is wrong.
I think that it is not my job to fill in the blanks.
The riots had a reason and certainly not an 'Islamist one'. Not to say the massacres were justified but they are understandable.
There wa no such thing as antisemitism in the Arab world or else we would need to invent a similar terms for Arab Christians. Both were accepted with restrictions.
Historians seem to concur in the fact that antisemitism started after 1948 in Arab countries.
So no such thing as 'islamist riots'.
Jews' historical persecutors were Christians and Arab countries were really an asylum for them. My husband's great-grandfather was the Great Rabbi of Alexandria and my husband's father and uncle had the most famous textile fabric in all the near East.
Palestinians had no kind of power over Arab Jews. The reasons for the massacres and the riots that preceded had nothing to do with antisemitism.
You forgot to mention that the massacres happened 32 years after the official beginning of the zionist project which was to create a Jewish homeland in Palestine (the birth of zionism dating back to 1887 with the immigration of 35'000 Jews from Russian and mostly Ashkenazi, all fleeing Pogroms.)
I have written a whole essay, but it's not my job to correct everything.
I’m an American and a lifelong democrat but this is truly shameful!
Thankyou Guys, i have watched both your videos and feel humbled. You are two supremely intelligent and brave thinkers. It is such a horrifying subject but you have dealt with it in such a calm, considered way. It is pure relief to know that people like you with such compassion and wisdom exist in these insane and frightening times. Thankyou
Hoping things get better soon. So many innocent Palestinians and Israelis are caught in the middle.
Right now only Palestinians are being literally massacred.
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You mean like the Gazan "civillians" who invaded Israel and raped, mutilated and dragged people into underground terror tunnels in Gaza? There's no equivalecy between Israelis and "Palestinians"(which is an artifically fabricated 'national identity' with ZERO historical basis). NO MORE LIES. There's good and there's evil in this world, make your choice!
14 Nov. 2023 survey among Palestinian Arabs.
Table 27: How much do you support the military operation carried out by the Palestinian resistance led by Hamas on October 7th?
Extremely support - 59.3%
Somewhat support -15.7%
Total 75%
Source: Arab World for Research and Development (AWRAD)
If there were more people like the two of you in this world❤❤
Your guest referred to Jews who “moved” to Israel from Arab countries. I think it is important for your audience to understand that those Jews were displaced and forced to move from their homes due to the formation of Israel. The estimates are that there were as many displaced Jews as there were Palestinians. The Jews were welcomed into their new homeland, the Palestinians refused to form a state of their own and their neighboring Arab neighbors did not want them to come in with the exception of Jordan.
The Palestinians already had a state. Half of it was handed over to the Zionists.
500,000-700,000 Arabs fled from Israel and became refugees.
900,000-1,000,000 Jews fled from Arab Countries to Israel and became refugees, their descendants make the majority of Israelis.
You don’t hear about the refugees who fled to Israel, Israel has absorbed those incoming refugees, while the Arab countries for the most part did not, they use them as a political tool (a common cause, a unifying topic, a diversion from poverty, poor health care, poor education and corrupt governments).
Over 100 million people were refugees on the 20th century, they all have moved on, except for those Arabs of Palestine/Israel, who are kept a refugee status by Arab countries, UNRWA and their own political leaders.
Did not Jordan have an issue with pals? Paul tried to start their own thing so they and another Arab country killed thousands of pals? Black September
Thankyou always Andrew! Love your guests and interview questions. ❤
I am Catholic Chinese Indonesian currently living in Australia. It's common mistake for general public to mix culture and religion. When my sister-in-law who is a really good Muslim - joining our Chinese New Year tradition, which is culture, lots of people condemned her. And when I visited my parents' graves to pay respect by doing Chinese ritual, lots of people said "but you're Catholic". Culture is what I was born into, I don't think I can choose my culture, it's in my vein (it's explained of why I am forever stingy) but I can choose my religion.
Coleman is an awesome guest and I love the way he interviewed you Andrew!
I’m learning so much from you about Hamas and Israel and have been educating my mum and her friends. I can’t believe the LGBT plus community in America are protesting with the Pro Palestine groups. They are so ignorant of what would happen to them over there and they are celebrating terrorism and the deaths and torture of the innocent.
The Mayor of NYC gave a very powerful speech today in solidarity with Israel. It was very moving ❤
The "LGBT community" collectively are NOT celebrating the Hamas attack, rather it's minority fringe extremist political elements of the LGBT community who are.
Get your facts straight.
Also, the whole " you should agree with murdering innocent people and children because they would discriminate/ kill you if you were in a Muslim country" is patronising AF.
Neither the Palestinians nor the LGBT community need the likes of you or Andrew telling us what the score is when you're also absolutely fucking ignorant about what you're talking about anyways.
Go learn about about the history of colonialism.
The true history of Israel unbiased to either side, not the zionist lies that people like Andrew promote no matter how well intended on his part.
The Torah says homosexuals should be put to death. An ultra-Orthodox Jew stabbed to death a 16-year-old girl at a gay pride parade in Israel in 2016. Google "Yishai Schlissel." Does this mean LGBT people shouldn't care about religious Jews that are killed by Hamas? "You should only care about people that agree with you about everything" is a pretty weak morality.
I can't believe that you side with Israeli occupants and oppressors. Palestine needs its own state and when this is achieved, time to grow and develop. Israel too has been deeply homophobic until very recently. Don't you remember the stabbing as late as at the 2015 Pride in Jerusalem, and Bezalel Smotrich, a Knesset member, calling the Pride a 'beast parade'.
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I,m not Jewish, but being 68yrs old, I grew up with The Holocaust, Totally don't understand antisemitism in 2023. RESPECT ❤❤ from Australia.
The issue is territorial here.
@@ThreetwoOne-wu7yeThe issue is Islam, Read the Hamas Charter, it states that jihad is the only answer to destroy Israel, and all the world's Jews should be killed it has nothing to do with territory!!!
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It is a majority vs. minority conflict.
The middle east Arab Islamic majority cannot accept the existence of an independent state of a minority, be it of Maronites, Assyrians, Druze or others, especially of Jews. By Arab Islamic culture, if it is not dominated and controlled by an Arab Islamic regime then it is an occupation.
@@ef2718 Not it is Europe implanting a country in the middle East. Nothing to do with minority. But all Zionist will defend this thesis because it is the one that will profit Israel most but it is not for the good of mankind. Either you are a bit naive or not quite honest with yourself. It is understandable to a certain point.
At some point you have to choose between truth and your tribe. Americans don't seem able to reach that point. They don't see that truth is better and that we can take it.
I don't know the whole story. I listened to a Palestinian woman talking in a very one-sided manner as well, and it got on my nerves the same. Bye
Thank you both so much for your unbiased and comprehensive look at current events. ❤
This enlightening conversation is YT at it’s finest. Applies to all AG’s videos. Journalism I trust & applaud.
Good to see there's still normal people like you guys.What the hell is going on with this world???
🇬🇧🏴 Andrew we aren't all antisemitic. It's horrific what has happened in Israel. I'm sorry that the UK is so bad. 🕊️🙏
Are they the ones who deliberately attacked the uss liberty
Yeah why is the title accusing all of is in the US of this when that's not true? We Americans aren't all evil. Why are people saying this? Does Andrew want Americans to get killed to? Very disappointed
And protesting against Israeli state war crimes is not in anyway antisemitic either 🇬🇧🇵🇸
@@hanselmansell7555Interesting. How do you negotiate with an organization that hates Jews more than they love their own people? I have sympathy for what innocent Palestinians suffer because they are forced to live under a terrorist regime that has no problem sacrificing innocent Palestinians to further their cause of the complete destruction of Israel and Jews.
@@hanselmansell7555 Didn't you get the memo if you're not pro-israel you're anti-semitic
I'm loud and proud!! I refuse to let the nonJewish world make me ashamed of being part of the ancient, historic ethnic group I belong to!!
You shouldn't some of the best, smartest, amazing people in my life were/are jews. 💛
Andrew and Colman are a wonderful team! Please do more of these podcasts together!
I responded to this discussion with Coleman Hughes on his channel which you directed us to for Part One of this hugely important issue. Thank you for introducing me to Coleman and his channel. I have subscribed to his channel as well.
I’m of the left, I ain’t celebrating any killing on any side, that’s a gross generalisation
How many Trump supporting right wingers are celebrating Hamas? Exactly.
Also, I'm American. I see the absolute ridiculousness that Andrew is referring to. It absolutely is people from the left supporting Hamas. The funny Irony is- They are defending Hamas. A group that hates America.
I'm sure there's a lot more about you than being a leftist. So don't make this Israel/ Hamas situation all about you and your feelings. Because it's actually more important than your feelings being hurt. Just saying ✌️
it isnt all the left but the only ones doing it are from the left like not all muslims are terrorists but most terrorist are muslim
I think very very few actually are. There are people on the actual far left (not who get called the far left) who believe that the Palestinians have a right to violence resistance in that they literally have no other choice being imprisoned in the Gaza Strip and dominated by Israel. Those people are very similar to the people who think Israel has a right to murder innocent Palestinians.
It is true that the Israeli government has grown increasingly extreme and volatile towards Palestine over the years and so, it’s not surprising that Hamas came into the picture and is getting more and more extreme. We know this happens. It happened after the Iraq war with Isis. When you watch your family members murdered, and witness horrific treatment of your people, your entire life, it would make it that much easier to be radicalized into believing these people hate you and that revenge is the only answer.
Violence begets violence. Israel gov stopped trying to make peace with Palestine and has been increasingly hostile and controlling. Then when violence escalated, they become worse and it just keeps escalating.
This guy interviewed thinks warfare that targets civilians is perfectly ok. Modern warfare has become more deadly for civilians than the military because of the bombing and refusal to use ground troops and risk the lives of soldiers. If you’re sacrificing babies for the lives of your soldiers, you are a war criminal in my mind. The actions of Hamas and Israeli both result in the same tragedy and neither will bring peace. Only more violence.
Brilliant guest, I love the intelligents of this calm conversation. Andrew, you're a great journalist 👏👍😀 thankyou Coleman xxx
Bless you guys for this SANE conversation. Seriously. Thank You. (PS Coleman, I'm dying for you to do a 2nd interview with Benny Morris in the wake of the Hamas attacks. Couldn't be a more poignant time to do it). Thanks for your thoughtfulness guys.
I am Greek decent and, as a teacher, was told by my high school student: “Ms. M., I didn’t know you was white”. It really made me reflect, since in those days, I wasn’t really accepted as white! I always checked “other” or wrote in Hellenic” on forms!
My brother in law is Cyprus, he has land on the Turkish side of the border he can never touch. I never hear anyone saying free Cyprus!
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Some samples of last 20 years:
Nigeria vs Boko Haram 350,000 dead
Sudan vs JEM/Darfur 300,000 dead
Yemen vs Houthis 233,000 dead
Pakistan vs Islamists 50,000 dead
Syria's civil war 400,000 dead
South Sudan's civil war 400,000 dead
Ethiopia and Eritrea vs Tigray 600,000 dead
Do you remember protests for all these dead?
Me, neither.
It is not about people or land in Gaza, it is about Islamic domination.
What a great conversation, this and the part on Coleman's channel. It's important to talk about this topic, rationally and calmly. Thank you for the video!
“There is only one language that Hamas understands: strength” (violence). I agree completely. My in-laws grew up in Morocco and told me the same thing about Arabs in general. I thought it extreme, yet I knew my in-laws were wise. That opinion has been shown to be true. My American liberal views have long since vanished.
I live in Tel Aviv-Yafo and see the truth. My son-in-law is in the military reserves, and I feel a rush of pride seeing him in uniform. Just as I felt when I married an Israeli who’d been a paratrooper in the IDF. I side with Israel. We want to live.
As a mom of Marines and a “conservative Christian,” I honestly find these two groups of people the most lighthearted when it comes to joking about any kind of identity thing. Maybe because all Marines are “green,” first and all fellow believers are “family” first.
Just my two cents.
I loved this conversation.
Yeah, make a comic the Prophet Mohammed and it's hate, but oh boy do we have fun at the expense of the papacy 😅
Coleman Hughes is so eloquent and smart. A true class act. ❤
A class act that believes in sacrificing innocent people as retaliation for the actions of others? Why is it such a strange idea to go after the Hamas individuals who actually did the killings without bombing the hell out of civilians?
@@mercurialshift5793the Hamas are hiding out underneath civilian places, including under hospitals. So they are using human shields of their own people.
Gentlemen, articulate and insightful podcast. Much appreciated. I hope you work together again.
Why can't we just love each other, what is happening today is absolutely horendous, these poor people going through this is inhumane, please stop destroying people ❤
You can't love a person IF that person's LIFE GOAL is to kill you and your whole family because they hate you and your family so much because their religion tells them they HAVE TO hate you and MUST hate you. The worse thing is, that person whose life goal is to kill you and your family? His family and his friends' life goals are also TO KILL you and your whole family because they have the same religoin.
Yes, those kind of people do exist in REALITY and you have seen recently in the news the evil they could do.
Well, Okay, if you must insist, you can love those persons who want to kill you and your whole family. But when you and your family are killed, those persons who want to kill you and your family are not going to be remorseful or feel bad for killing you. They will celebrate that you and your family are dead.
So that explains why to say that "why can't we just love each other and everything will be peaceful" cannot happen in the REAL WORLD.
Because in the real world, there are people WHO WANT TO HATE and WANT TO DO EVIL THINGS to other people because their prophet and their religion commands them that they must hate you and they must do evil things to you and your family unless you convert to their religion.
Im a Catholic who married an Israeli Mossad and it was an extremely mixed blessing. I met an amazingly diverse number of people. A South African Jewish person asked why I'd married an Israeli, as if they were not good. Conversely she thought I was Jewish, which Im not. He was an Ashkenazi jew whose first wife was Moroccan Sephanic. Different looks. Weird????
When people show you who they are, believe them
Found you from Coleman's video. Subbed, will watch your stuff from now on.
There are morons and scumbags on both sides of this tragedy, and both sides' extremists want to discredit the middle ground. You can have the most deserving cause in the world but murdered children will still be murdered children, however murdered children also doesn't justify more murdered children
Well said.
Exactly, Palestinian murdered children are just as much a tragedy that shouldn't be happening as the Israeli children that have been murdered.
@@powderandpaint14 precisely my point, sadly though there are people effectively claiming that objecting to dead Palestinian children means you are in favour of dead Israeli children
@@powderandpaint14yes, that's what was said. These silly & asinine tit for tat commentary when it's already been said in exact words.
Tedious
@Buzz359 exactly, and in times like this people must stand firm against all these atrocities, as I said murdered children will always be murdered children, whose children is irrelevant
Im 50 and when i was a teenager the idea of someone being a holocaust denier would be totally crackpot, today alot of teenagers genuinely dont know what the holocaust is, the modern conspiracy popularity could influence niave people
ty for your honesty and willingness to share.Andrew
Coleman for President.
He really breaks this down well, and has good insight. I respect his careful thinking process.
If only.
I need to follow this guest. He’s so easy to understand and the way he analyzes is superb.
An amazing example of clear thinking and expression. Coleman should have a much wider audience.
Very interesting chaps. I'm a 62 year old, white woman, brought up in the East end. Immigration was always present because of the docks. Nobody took any notice as long as people worked hard and contributed to the Community. Sadly, that isn't how it works now. Englands 'class structure' has always been a massive problem, we always felt that the rich kept us back. That seems to have been replaced by the need to find differences in people, usually the colour of someones skin. Keep up the good work Andrew, i hope your family stay safe
I've always said I went to school with the United Nations, we had Asians, Yugoslavians ( as they were then ) Jews, Aboriginals, Lebanese, Poles, Czechoslovakians, and probably any other nationally you can name. We all ate at each other's homes ( broke bread together) we all studied and played together, and we grew up together some of these friendships have lasted over 45 years, we frankly don't give a rat's arse what a person's ethnicity is. I've travelled extensively the world and it would be a much better place if we all had that type of melting pot.
Great conversation. Good job guys
Love to see Coleman here!
I am a Christian with a very precious Jewish extended family
It beggars belief as to why in the world it makes a difference what nationality, race or color anyone happens to be. I assume it comes from deep seated fear and inferiority complex. I am sometimes intimidated by very intelligent or talented people because I would like to be like them! Anyway, your podcast is extremely balanced and sane. Thank you ... and may the God you cannot believe in bless you and keep you safe!
Are you implying that all Jewish people are intelligent or talented? All of them?
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Exactly.
what do you mean ..the God he cannot believe in??is Andrew an atheist??
Wish I’d read the last sentence first.
Andrew.... Words are never enough....but i will still continusely say I'm sorry....i can't begin to imagine what you and thousands of others are going through. please know there are people who care and do not have evil at heart. Thank you ❤
Have you ever imagined what millions of Palestinians are going through every day under the boot of an apartheid regime? Try it sometime.
@@DeathRayGraphics I will repeat again.... I can't imagine. I don't know why you are focusing anger at me. I now realize I am better off keeping what I feel to myself and I will. Thank you for your honesty.
@@gailkelly6154 Andrew is not actually going through ANYTHING. (I mean-- am I wrong? Did he say that he has family in Israel? I don't think he did). So, while what is happening in Israel may pluck his heartstrings as a Jew, it is pretty rich of him to be outraged on behalf of the Israelis under attack right now (actually, the attack is over), but be willfully ignorant of the daily oppression of the Arabs inside Israel which has preceded this violence.
This was not an attack on "Jews". It was an attack on Israel. It is the natural result of apartheid. Not justified, but inevitable.
My support is for Israel 🇮🇱 AND I’m on the Left 🤷🏻♀️
My ❤ goes out to you, Andrew.
I found you through Shaun Atwood (who I don’t often watch anymore) and your channel has been the best by a mile on this subject. My mother died when I was 11 and my dad succumbed to alcohol from then on. I was welcomed into my best friend’s home and family who looked after me and taught me so much. I’m 58 now and moved down south from Leeds to Somerset. He’s still my best friend and now lives in California and we talk at least for an hour or two every week. Here most of my friends are left wing and believe in being ‘good’. They were largely in the corbyn camp of thinking. The chants of “Oh Jeremy Corbyn” rang out at Glastonbury last time I went, 2019 I think. It’s very difficult to engage in conversation with them on the subject of Israel/Palestine so I now steer them towards your channel. Thank you for all your work Andrew.
I’m a Democrat. Always been. How can I continue to support them? I’m really struggling with this. This hurts deeply.
Progressive Democrats are reforming the party from the bottom up, it takes time. depending on where you are you may or may not be seeing progress. California we are… Its hard. whatever you choose to do, make sure its progress and do no harm.
Walk away
I feel the same way, if this is what the left celebrate than, I don't want to be a part of it. I guess I'm not as left leaning I thought I was. I'm really more middle grounded.
There is a huge difference between Democratic Politicians and the insane far left on the ground.
Its gonna be a long time till progressives get popular enough to vote in their own president instead of having to rally behind a more moderate established candidate.
This is to say just because the left sucks doesn't make the right great right now either.
Personal politics should always be more center focused so you can evaluate events and policies individually without having to buy into some package deal of beliefs.
I’ve reached my limit. I don’t know how you two manage to be so damned calm about this. Even Sam Harris is reaching his limit. Douglas Murray is cathartic for me right now.
Love Douglas even tho don't agree with him on everything
I could listen to the 2 of you all day. ❤
Solidarity Andrew. Thank you for all you do.
Strength is the only thing vile bullies and cowards like Hamas understand. Thank you for a wonderful but hard and important conversation.
I am 81 years old and as a child I never wore my Star of David. I was bullied at school.
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I am fifty - and went to school in a southern African country that was mixed. Noone gave the Jewish kids a bad time there, we were mystified when they had celebrations and I remember being confused that they wouldn't get Xmas presents. But that was about it, we were altogether quite fine.
I hope you wear your star with pride.
This is what I don't understand in this world, that shouldn't be, we are all different & should be allowed to be proud of that, it's not a bad thing, I guess we could say it Proves that people of the light & people of the dark can not coexist.
Agree with all of your points and everything. And as an Israeli I really appreciate the coverage and the conversation...
But I also want to acknowledge the beautiful colour grade both of you have, incredible job by the editor! I rarely notice how good a colour grade looks, but this one is really nice, and stands out in a really good way
Also both of you lighting and camera setup plays a big part of that, so, yeah lol
Wow, it's my first time on your channel - just stumbled upon it. I was so impressed by your eloquence and intelligent reasoning (so hard to find these days) that I just had to subscribe. Thank you for presenting such a balanced and level-headed perspective.
This guy is brilliant in his thought process and articulation of the gastly reality.
That was supposed to sound smart and instead made no sense
@@MG-pj2oo autocorrect is a pain. I meant ‘IS’
@@generaljo78From the outset your comment was well said.
@@blakesleyk.7166 aww thank you. Unfortunately autocorrect decided to write ‘isn’t’ as opposed to ‘is’ but never mind, I’ve amended it now. And Coleman really is a great thinker, glad to discover him with the wonderful Mr Gold.
This was incredible!! It was so insightful. And yet great to understand Andrew Gold better, fascinating.
Im horrified by some people's response. Its unfathomable to me. Ignorance isn't an explanation. Its evil whats happened in Israel. Personally i won't have anyone in my life in any meaningful way that thinks this is in anyway understanable or justified
It is not but neither is the behaviour of Israel. You can’t kill more babies as a response to babies being killed and think that makes sense. Clearly the violence over the decades towards Palestine has only created more violence. It’s not that hard to realize you can’t trap people in an open air prison and expect anything good to come if it. When you create hellish conditions, hell spills over eventually. That’s not a justification. That’s sociology. It’s what we’ve learned from history.
It may not have been justified, but as for understandable, if you can't understand why it happened, you're ignoring 70 years of history, as well as the massive power imbalance between the two sides and how that can lead to desperate acts. Not everyone is willing to take the moral high ground while they're being slowly but forcibly displaced or outright killed for your land, but it's really easy to take the moral high ground when you're safe in another country.
@@jc3drums916 You seem to be very generous of the palestinian people when they have throughout the history of this conflict been the aggressor.
Weakness is not a virtue.
@@jc3drums916what are you talking about? Gaza is ruled by Hamas, which they elected themselves. Israel had withdrawn from there since 2005, as a peace gesture. Tons of money in aid were flowing there from Europe, USA, Katar, and all over the world. They could build another Dubai there, if they wanted. Instead, they invested in tunnels, weapons and perpetuating hate
@@jc3drums916just read the history. The Palestinians have consistently been the aggressor. Israel would not even be an occupying force otherwise. If they got it together and got some good political leadership there would be peace tomorrow.
Andrew: Thank you for listening (most people never do).
Just wanted you to know it was noticed and appreciated.
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Thanks for what you're doing, Andrew. This is doing a great job of shedding light on the current Israel war.
No, it's not at all.
Hi Andrew love your channel Im from Australia catholic thank you for teaching me about your lineage and thank you for educating me about what is going on right now in Israel I feel for you and your fiance and hope everyone is safe please keep doing your videos about what is going in there you are a great human being escuse my spelling have had a stroke so difficult to spell things sometimes take care
Praying for peace
Beautiful sentiment but unfortunately not realistic. So heartbreaking
@@TheInppropriateHeiferWhenever I see someone pray for peace, I remember that scene in “Independence Day”. “Peace? No Peace!”
Peace comes from within...then flows outwards. Peace will come when we are at peace with our own self.....then peace will flourish. ❤❤❤
The best analysis so far from Coleman.
Great interview.
"Some on the left" would be better, "a small minority on the left" would be more accurate but "the left" is just a sweeping generalisation, as a fan of the channel I'm kinda disappointed TBH
Wow. Can someone say "Control Freak" without admitting they're a control freak 😂
@diannetex what? I'm hardly demanding he change his point of view lol. If anyone can't see how referring to "the left " as a whole is problematic I don't know what to tell you, after all just in the uk "the left" is several million people at the very least
Please don‘t say that you are disappointed. There‘s no use in being disappointed.
@susandelgado6926 well it's the guys channel so he can write what he wants and its not really important enough to get outraged about, its only a TH-cam vid after all, hardly matters compared to the real world, and to be fair he has changed it to the far left, which is still a generalisation, I'm pretty far left myself and everyone I know is as outraged as me by the atrocities of both sides
It's the lost left celebrating - actual lefties have compassion and will be equally saddened for all the loss here.
but they are conveniently silent. What a happy convenient life they have.
These two are my most fav collabs in all of YT universe. Crime, beauty, commentary….❤️ best best best.
This is a level headed conversation
I am so grateful for this intelligent, thoughtful discussion. Thank you both.
Excellent one-to-one!
Thanks for sharing your thoughts
Andrew makes a good point. In Britain, we have no concept of "African British" whereas American's label each other as "African American" or "Italian American" etc. In Britain, a citizen is singularly British and your ethnicity has no bearing. This is a consequence of us Brits being much less prone to racialising everything with a pulse, unlike in the U.S, and that's a good thing.
I 100 percent don't believe this. There is a ton of racism in Britain
But just like EVERYTHING that reaches our shores from America, all be it several years later, such hyper racialised mindset is most certainly permeating the UK.
But Muslims see themselves as Muslims first and British second.
Maybe Jews are treated this way in Britain but it's not the understanding I have of Black, Middle Eastern, East Indian people in Britain.
@sbaumgartner9848 That's probably because you don't live in Britain (I'm Middle Eastern)
Beautiful man. Thank you. Keep it up.
Glad to have found your channel Andrew. You and Coleman come across as very reasoned, honest and thoughtful people on these terribly difficult issues, which is rare these days; and I have learned a lot from you both.
One thing i never really understood though, is how you can still retain a religion based identity, once you have left that religion and become an athiest? Wouldnt you just resort to your ethnic ancestry as your root identity?
For example, I'm from a Bangladeshi Muslim family, but I decided to leave the religion of islam and i am no longer a Muslim. I resorted back to my ethnic cultural identity as a Bengali, and would never identity as a Muslim anymore, even though my family and everyone from my background still are Muslims..
So similarly, wouldn't it be the case that, for someone like you, Andrew, who is from an east European Jewish family, but is atheist and doesn't believe in the Jewish religion, wouldn't your ethnic identity simply be east european, russian/ukrainian, instead of still Jewish?
For example, there are European Christians, African Christians, Asian Christians and the same goes for people of other religions. And if they leave their religion, they still have their ethnic identity, be it African or European. Why is it that only with Judaism, that you are still considered a Jew even if you no longer believe?
This is an understandable question, since many people view Judaism as a religion only. The truth is that it's a lot more intricate and complex than that. Judaism is a religion, but it's not only a religion - that's the short answer to explain why people can be non-believing and non-observant, yet still identify as Jewish in culture/heritage/ethnicity. You can't fit Jews and Judaism into a neat box. We share a common race for the most part - but according to the true definition of a race you can't enter into a race since it's based on biology. A person can convert to Judaism and become a Jew, so we're not really a race. Some might categorize us as an ethnicity, but that wouldn't account for the religious component. We're not a nationality either because our identity isn't dependent on a specific land (though obviously we call Israel our homeland, we continue to exist outside of it as well. A nationality is tied to a specific place by definition).
So to answer your question, for many Jews, being Jewish is their core and root identity. We may be Jewish AND another race or nationality, but for many of us we are Jews at our core. For those of us who are observant Jews, the religion and are a huge piece of that. But many Jews who don't believe still identify themselves as Jews. Certainly, many of the people over the years who have wanted to eliminate the Jews have not differentiated based on whether a Jew was or was not religious - all they care about is ridding the world of Jews.
Very well explained
Jewish people were chased out of all those countries by pogroms and other forms of oppression, long before the holocaust even happened. I think this is why they don’t identify with those nationalities. If you want to know more, there are some interesting videos and podcasts regarding this phenomena.
@te9693 very good of you to give such a detailed response. Also totally agree. It's complicated but at the end of the day those coming for the Jews do not care about the delineations and so that has to be a big component of the identification.
Great interview!
People shouldn't be celebrating any innocent deaths on either side. I don't believe the average Palestinian is anymore intrested in murder than the average Israeli. We always take the bait though don't we!
Unfortunately, this is not true. through the Strife palestinians have taught their children to absolutely hate the Jews in every which way and most of the children. If you ask them what they aspire to be are killers of Jews.
Only Gazans live in Gaza. Palestinians live in the West Bank.
@@ChienaAvtzon Call them what you will. I call them prisoners of war and I know good and well most of them aren't interested in being slaughtered for murdering others and going straight to Hell. They aren't stupid. I'd sooner believe our own government set the whole thing up anyway. That's exactly what they have a long history of doing. It's no secret that Hamas wouldn't exist today anyway if they weren't backed up by the Israelis to being with they use them to keep their prisoners of war divided.
What if a group of lunatics from your city murdered a bunch of people from another town and the government's response was to just start randomly killing the residents of your city by the tens of thousands, maybe more. That would be literally insane.
@@ChienaAvtzon I'd love to know where you picked up this silly and completely untrue idea. All of modern (fake) Israel, including the West Bank and Gaza had been occupied by Palestinians for a very, very long prior to WWII and modern Zionism, which is utterly Satanic on it's face. If God wishes to give that land to his people, for starters, he'd actually put his people there instead of the impersonators who are there today and he wouldn't use the most evil Satanic people on earth from the UN to accomplish it with the help of the Rothschilds.
This is a fantastically interesting interview!! Thank you!!