Old Spike Milligan sketch... 'I am sentencing you to ten years in Strangeways.' 'I haven't got any strange ways.' 'You will have when you've been in there for ten years.'
When I was young I was at the swimming and getting changed outside the lockers because it wasn't busy and one locker swung open with an old scary looking guy playing with himself and tried to grab my arm to haul me in. I managed to struggle away and just as I got away my skinhead neighbour decided to go swimming that day and thank god he did. He seen how scared I was and just asked me to point to the locker and I did. This skinhead with his big doctor Martins on kicked this man up and down the changing room for ages. The man ran out covered in blood half naked and don't know what happened after. But these animals are evil beyond evil. I often think to myself what would have happened to me if he got me in that locker. He could have killed me aswell you never know. Skinhead Bendy I owe you.🙏
So much enrichment arriving daily , diversity and rainbow people . Also we now have a plethora of genders instead of just two we really are living in a paradise compared to back then
@@laurarules3642 If that's your biggest problem you must lead a charmed life. The rest of us worry about employment, our health and not being able to afford the basics. Still I suppose it was better back then when they used to give shorter sentences for beasts and Jimmy Saville was upto his filthy tricks. The good old days!
Legit facts mate, I’m 1984 … unluckily before 10 years old one got to me but he only tickled and touched me, I say “ Just “ because compared to being penetrated, or full r raped etc it was at least less physically but still hard for me to process and understand for along tone. Anyway the story gets better, he tried to get his fucking grubby hands on another child on our council estate, and her father was a local gangster, drug dealer, pretty well respected etc and she’d told him about it or he was notified or whatever, and him and a few other of his handy mates together, and they marched into his house, knocked the bastard about a bit tied him up and bundled him into their 4x4 and he was taken up the moors and beaten again, stripped and I was told he was buried in a hole up to his nick, and they left him there, put it this way he was never seen again. But that’s what they said, but I guess you can interpreted how you like.
I had to go back to see that coz I was that disgusted st what he was saying I fast forwarded past it. Yeah well done to thst screw for doing that and disgrace to every other screw that doesn’t. And it’s a disgrace he only got 2 years 4 months.
@@damianbutterworth2434I’m from a tiny village in the Scottish highlands where everyone knows everyone’s business. My dad was a “special” for a while in the 80s and it came out that a guy in his 20s was kicking the bejaysus out of his mum and had been for a while. The dad did fuck all and let it happen. One night my dad and the Sergeant, (both ex military), were called to this young guy as he was in the village trying to start a fight with anyone he saw and being a total fud. Dad and Sergeant got him up to the police station and gave him a sound thrashing and told him that if they ever even suspected he was abusing his mum or anyone again they’d break his legs. He spent the night in the cell and waddled home the next morning. He never grassed up and actually went on to sort out his drinking and temper. Dad told me this when I was about 18. Shame today’s police can’t go old school and beat the crap out of violent, abusive people rather than give them a slap on the wrist.
Fascinating watching this, my dad was a prison officer and this brought back a lot of memories. My early life (born in 54) was growing up on the Isle of Sheppey in the early part of his career. When I was around six or seven dad was transferred to Blundeston maximum security prison when it opened. A few years later he was transferred to Gartree near Market Harborough in Leicestershire. Although I was young I understood that the prisons were maximum security and held some extremely dangerous inmates. He sadly passed away at 45 when I was just 12 but I remember him being very proud of what he did for a living. As I was so young he didn’t share any of his experiences with me but my mum recounted some of them when I was older….. not a career for those of an overly sensitive nature !
I’ve worked with the kids who are the victims of these guys who are constantly let out to abuse others. These kids are seriously messed up for life- it’s heartbreaking how much devastation one man can inflict on so many lives.
It worried me how the meeting to decide whether the child abuser should be let out or not. Staggering lack of knowledge. It felt like a morning chat over coffee
My first wife was brought up in care because her mum’s partner was doing things to her she shouldn’t have been doing. She battled addiction throughout her life. She didn’t trust anyone and was paranoid. She would panic if I was stuck in traffic on the way home from work, she hated being on her own. Some nights she would be sad and tearful and I would have to cuddle her tight and promise I’ll always love and protect her. She was the most sweet and loving woman it’s disgusting what these monsters do to them.
I remember watching this. I was 12/13 years old. I recall my mother disapproving of me watching it, due to the adult content. My father and older brothers loved it!
4 years after this was shown I was in there and it had not improved much but then again you are there to be punished plus I was only there a couple of weeks as it was an allocation centre at the time, i ended up there again in 1985 and 1987 but just for a few weeks again before I got allocated 😜
Unfortunately as a young apprentice of 16, I was assaulted by a Clark of the works who was employed by Surry county council. The guy who was supposed to be looking after me did nothing. I had to threaten him with a claw hammer to keep him away from me. I leant that day that being a gentle lad working in construction meant that you were going to be violent to keep yourself safe. That was back in 1979, since then I have been very careful to look after any young man who I have had any form of management over. I never want anyone to feel as frightened as I was by that old bastard.
I absolutely take my hat off to you. All the Screws in this documentary are very impressive and this is exactly what we need today. No nonsense and professional! Excellent stuff! Thank you for your service. 🇬🇧
@@georginaohara42 many experiences, worked in cat A jails as well- enjoyed my service- never assaulted, no PTSD and a great pension, look back with good memories
@@Alanhock75 I’m so grateful you have wonderful memories & got out without mental scarring. . When I hear people share their experiences, I almost wish I had been there. Maybe in another lifetime lol. Do you have a channel ? Wishing you a very blessed day 🙏🫶
what a treat to hear from someone NOT claiming PTSD. Even though I reckon some of what you saw would be enough to send these current boohoohooers straight to mommy. Cheers! @@Alanhock75
@@cultfiction3865 it all comes from the top (Gov) from music to film (who runs it all?), the aim is to make you hate your country so they can take it away. same with all the media and films with mixin. i just wish more brits were switched on to hidden hand. many things are way wayy more complex then people think.
And all the excuses!! He used a clenched fist on a toddler so many times he lost count and was lucky to have not killed him 😱 and the boys mother wanted to hide the boys injuries and keep this freak😱🤦 that poor little boy.
The woman that wanted to hide the damage that the piece of crap did to her 2 year old, needs to be behind bars. The officer that gave him a hiding, well done sir.
Two years and four months for battering a not yet two year old baby?! NOT LONG ENOUGH! The so called mother should have got sentenced as well for wanting to protect HIM and not her CHILD! 😡
@@adriantowe278but you’re crime is not the sort of thing that judges,barristers,high ranking police officers,politicians, councillors get turned on by. Saville got away with it because he was protected by these people because they are all in the same club.
@@Brettmaybullydestroyer people sometimes say things not knowing the guy on tv saying he wanted to tell the police to try make him self look good I hope your life is a bit better for you and your mum take care mate and look after your mum thanks for messaging me back take care
This is amazing yet obviously sickening at the same time, it’s rare we get a peep at folk “on the numbers” the nonchalance the little Irish one had made me want to puke.
Some Great British traditions on display in the 1st few minutes "Beast!" still carrying on today. Men & lads can have all sorts of faults in life but what Beasts did & do is unforgivable!!
What is so disheartening, is to hear them talk about their grotesque crimes with no real remorse and plenty of ad hoc justifications. Nothing has been learnt, whatsoever. Back on the streets they go, just to reoffend.
Respect to these prison guards. That guard who dealt with the Removal of the occupant due to being homosexual was truely a professional approach. Think he was ex army. Hard work especially in those days. I salute you sir.
Unfortunately these monsters existed at my boarding school in the 1980s. I hope children are safer now that people are more aware of their methods. Nothing is more devastating than abuse
There is a belief that monsters look like monsters, unfortunately they are hiding in plain sight in positions of responsibility near children. I hope you have been able to leave the trauma behind.
@@MackemdownsouthF.T.Mhe must have come across some horrible scum in there. Do you know any stories of these sex cases getting seriously beaten by staff? I hope so
I met an officer on a visit to Strangeways 20 years ago who said he preferred working on this wing. Don't know how unusual this was. Obviously, I wouldn't trust any of these people at all outside prison, but inside day to day, they're not as bad as some of the people who've done stuff like GBH and robbery. I can see why a spell on this wing might be a bit of a break from that.
When i was in Preston prison in 2003 there was a guy in for having sex with his mums corpse and another guy in for having sex with a pony so they padded them up together 😂😂imagine the conversations they would have 😜
@@OrdinaryJoe12 True enough - crimes against property/wealth are often punished more harshly than crimes against individuals and why? Because the people that make the laws are more concerned about those things.
Lots of them battered the prisoners. Even battered the YOUTH prisoners. In Armley, they were well known, and thankfully prosecuted for their horrific bullying of vulnerable men. They WERE tough, but lots of them were sadistic bullying bastards, who fed young men to KNOWN RAPISTS! its easy to look at these videos and think they were honourable men, although some of them really were decent men, but a significant number of them were just psychopathic sadists with no morals. Prison is a parallel universe, where might makes right, but at the end of the day, huge numbers of these screws abused prisoners for two decades.
As a father of 30 month old boy that evil scum who beat that kid makes me feel an anger I’ve never felt before Good on that copper for giving him a good hiding
This is how to run a prison. None of this pandering to the prisoners - oh sorry - clients! They do what they're told, they do their time and they leave. Brilliant prison officers.
I was raped as a 6 year old in 1966 by a 19 year old lad, he got 18 months. I was permanently damaged internally & it had an effect on my growing up years. 😢
I can't believe the woman on the parole board is considering letting him out because he can't get treatment in prison. Big f in deal. Keep him locked up.
Don't know myself. People have to be able to move on from their offences eventually. Touching boys is bad but it's not murder. There are plenty of support networks for sexually abused bairns these days that can draw strength from each others experiences.its not like they have to carry it around alone
At heart Mini never meant any harm .Instead of tying to help him , his father used to punch and hit him with his belt. When he was asked if he felt like setting fire to the second school his reply was "NO , THERE WHERE KIDS IN THERE"..
I take it you've one then yes. That guy has no respect and consent is highly debatable in prison and homosexuality shouldn't be allowed and is frowned upon In UK prisons and rightly so.
@@lrwguitar Definitely not what i have seen on the news and heard about, YOIs are full of people that are consenting, adult prisons are worse, there is no such thing as a straight man. Some criminals target people to use. Lots of STIs are treated in prisons!
The guy who hurt the wee bairn? He was in bad conditions? Stressed?My Da went down a pit every week, the depths of the earth and took nothing out on us!! Under pressure? Are you kidding me? Poor bairn😔
The Irishman at 12:00 is saying he doesn’t think it’s a serious offence at all, in 1980, but society disagreed, roll on to 2024 and we have a movement for M.A.P. that’s minor attracted person, an adult who’s sexually attracted to kid. The idea being that so long as the child consents ( not sure how that’s obtained) and not physically harmed then it’s just another expression of human sexuality. It’s gaining ground because now they have kids deciding in primary school if they want to change gender, and a court will uphold their decision and approve hormone treatment. Well if a child is considered able to decide such a thing then the argument from the nonces is they’re also able to decide on sexual activity. Hence we have lessons now for small children telling them about masturbation and other stuff that a small child has no need to know about. But we have a massive paedo ring in power, from the royals to the politicians to celebrities to music big names and actors, look at the list who went to Epstein island. When I was in jail in 1984 we had no idea who was a nonce, unless someone had some information and made it known, most of us were car thieves and burglars robbers and other stupid shit that young men do. The segregation wing E wing was apparently IRA but officially that wing was knocked down in 1969 (Reading jail) but we ( young offenders) were abusing them verbally as they watched from the locked landing gate ( letting air into the wing next to the yard) while we played volley ball, the screw told us that if we knew who they really were we’d shit ourselves, that they were the real deal. They didn’t shout back. We had a Hells Angel come in after a shooting in the New Forest. He got respect and everyone avoided him. He was only n remand. Walking about in his leather wastecoat. Anyway nonces can’t be cured cos they don’t see it as a crime. That’s why Gary glitter got refused parole last week an he’s 79, he’s incurable and can’t be trusted.
Think you will find by the nature of his tattoo's that he wouldn't agree to you calling him Irish he is an Ulster loyalist who sees himself as British not Irish
In the 1970s there was a similar group to the one you are describing, called the Paedophile Information Exchange (PIE). They also argued that having sex with children was an act of their self-expression and interest in minors. Thet were disbanded in the 1980s but not until allegations were made against senior politicians for their connections and support for the group, particularly the Labour politician Harriet Harman. These people have been at it and protected for centuries.
I used to work on the servery in Brixton. One of my jobs was to take food to the beast’s wing upstairs. Many extra “ingredients” were added to their food on my way up the stairs by the lads.
@@kaysmith8992 No need to feel bad, every single word he spoke was for his gain, even when he lost the decision all he could do was talk about his injustice and denigrate the other person. Being isolated for 3 months would further reinforce to himself he was correct. He also had a worrying blink.👍
I was a screw for 14years…..normal screw to SO to dog handler……worked all over the country, even Holloway……..been told I should write a book! lol…..the things I’ve seen……unbelievable! Beats anything I saw in the military, hands down!!
@@dionomed9144 they are all on the landings and spurs now with cover stories and eyes and ears for the uniforms..... .they learned that it's cheaper and more convenient to use them than segregate them.....all the lads that aren't on normal location are good heads on GOAD.... another acronym that is a nonsense catchall umbrella term that's totally a backronyn when it comes to common sense . Unless that Is your a security SO...... ......how times change........ Only so called beasts ..just plain evil to me are spotted by the normal location lads through intel...more often than not supplied by the screws ..so the system turns. around the panopticon. wheel........
It doesn't - the word predates that rather contrived explanation. It's known as a "Backronym" where people come up with an explanation after the event. In the same way "chav" doesn't mean "council housed and violent" as some people boldly state it does, it's a Romany word meaning "youth"
Agreed, but they are no different to other criminals, they're all as bad as each other, all locked away for a reason, all kept away from decent honest people.
"They [the nonces] go through hell here!" Wow! That guy is... I dunno, sympathetic? I just couldn't be like that... Hindsight is a strange thing. When I looked back at my middle childhood, between 7 and 12 years old... I realised that there had been at least three or four separate times when I came close to being predated on and/or sexually assaulted by two or three older individuals in my life. One was a 14/16 year old neighbour who _attempted something_ a couple of separate times but didn't have or take the _opportunity,_ so to speak. Another was a vicar (35-45 years old perhaps?) who ran the younger kids youth club in his big church hall. He also knew my neighbour. I never noticed their advances at the time, and it was only when I was looking back which made me pause and then turn white with shock. Very strange feeling. When that kid was about 18/20, a group of similar aged lads hunted him down after a kid brother of one of them confided to his older brother that he'd done 'something'. The nonce ended up in hospital with a demolished face, missing teeth, internal bleeding, multiple broken limbs etc. His family disowned him, they are a lovely family and just as in shock about their vile son... I believe he ended up in prison for doing what _they_ do! 😐 *Shudder!*
I know they have to be locked up there for the safety of us all but what freaks me out is to think that there is possibly still some inmates locked away who were there when I was on the roof looking down into some cells about 30 years ago. When you think of all the freedoms fun and liberty you have enjoyed over the years and some poor yes maybe evil mental souls have been banged up to keep us safe.
@@adriantowe278 you can't mess with their money, but they can mess with the kids, Mate, it's the civil service middle class climbers, they all come through the public school system, where subservience is bred into them from an early age, and taking it in the rear is a life lesson to understand there is a hierarchy, so sex crimes isn't much of a thing to them, so crimes against children doesn't really resonate like it does with the likes of us from the working class.
That guys opinions are abhorrent. He seems annoyed that ppl in the outside world consider sexually assaulting a 9 year old a serious crime. The undercurrent being that he doesn’t, unfathomable!
i remember in HMP Bedford the screws would open up certain inmates over the lunch break ...so they could batter the beasts whose door they would forget to shut 😂😂
Prison is about order. Recognising what you’ve done wrong. The way these officers installed order is superb. All of the prisoners need help. Not from prison officers though, there has to be a line between order and rehabilitation
I visited Strangeways with work in 2000. Was shown a lot of differet parts, including the equivalent of this wing, which was called the Vulnerable Prisoners wing. One group that were in this wing (and not mentioned in this film) were people who owed money to high level criminals, usually over drugs. They couldn't be safe on normal location, so there they were.
@@chrismanners9091 A tobbaco/drug baron is/was someone who has access to tobbaco/drugs in prison, then sells it on to fellow inmates for a profit on a smoke now pay later principle. If you have no family outside to give you money before you know it your in debt. Can't pay? You get a smack in the face, or worse.
You shouldn't go in numbers for any circumstance you'll get more respect sticking around and taking what ever punishment is dished out. Don't borrow and don't bet. Simple really.
to be fair, i thought for some reason "styx" was a heavy rock band, gonna have a little download of their hits now!! hahaha where in usa are you mate?@@danrobinson572
this series, hands down, beats 'Kubrick's A Clockwork Orange': real life, no nonsense societal outcasts and their 'superiors'. Liberal social workers, authoritarian guvnors, hard pressed screws, reclaritant offenders-the lot! Brilliant job for uploading.
What's misplaced forced distopian psychotherapic torture and life-changing mind control in clockwork orange got to do with a real life prison system made to rehabilitate men to society..... Ya pranny!...your clever you are...m
How can you compare a documentary to a work of fiction….?? Absolutely preposterous, and you have clearly demonstrated that you have no critical understanding whatsoever of the film A Clockwork Orange. Oh dear 😂
@@wesleyashworth5061 But I did, didn't I. I have a critical understanding of the book, the film, and the sociological 'sitz im leben' which society provided for both Burgess and Kubrick: the evidence of which is clearly outlined in this documentary. watch your blood pressure 🤣
@@nathanielgrant3909 sociological ‘sitz im leben’ notwithstanding, your contention that the documentary series “ beats Kubrik’s A Clockwork Orange hands down” is still preposterous. Which is best, a train or a pencil ?
@@wesleyashworth5061 Alright then: this amelioration. "I found, in this documentary series, all of the sociological themes which Kubrick intended to unpack in his adaptation of Burgess's A Clockwork Orange' brought into *vivid* relief in the stark actuality of the unreconstructed criminal life, the repressive authoritarianism of the screws, the world-weary cynicism of the guv'nors, the glib liberalism of social workers and the lack of honour among criminals. Life succeded in outshining the imitations of art-for me personally, in this instance of portraying our systems of correction of the human condition."
Amazing to hear the parole board reflecting on a paedophiles 'treatment' before considering his release. What 'treatment' can be given to someone whose sexual preference is children? Absolutely nothing can change that.
@@Steven-xj6yb considering gays at the time had a higher legal age of consent than the rest of us, I wonder if he was even a sexual offender by our standards - in 1980 you could be a sex offender for sleeping with a 20 year-old adult man, but shagging a 16 year-old girl was legally fine.
Is that Cloughie's brother at the beginning and never understood why people think it's a badge of honour to have been sent to Prison?? Also, the screws look proper back in the day also, like they'd smash ya if you fcuked about!! 😀
It's a strong emotional journey not a badge of pride....some criminal are products of the environment....care ETC etc....abuse...it Is a recurring story.....most start with the care system...
Old Spike Milligan sketch...
'I am sentencing you to ten years in Strangeways.'
'I haven't got any strange ways.'
'You will have when you've been in there for ten years.'
🤣😂🤣😂
lol
the judge has strange ways to sentence people
The two screws in the governors office lol .
With the big side burns.
Try that now .😮.
Shit life children learn from this
The sound of Blakeys Studs scraping the tiles coming off the screws boots at the end . Lol
When I was young I was at the swimming and getting changed outside the lockers because it wasn't busy and one locker swung open with an old scary looking guy playing with himself and tried to grab my arm to haul me in. I managed to struggle away and just as I got away my skinhead neighbour decided to go swimming that day and thank god he did. He seen how scared I was and just asked me to point to the locker and I did. This skinhead with his big doctor Martins on kicked this man up and down the changing room for ages. The man ran out covered in blood half naked and don't know what happened after. But these animals are evil beyond evil. I often think to myself what would have happened to me if he got me in that locker. He could have killed me aswell you never know. Skinhead Bendy I owe you.🙏
Love it ! That’s a great story
Well done Bendy 👏
Wow what a horrible experience you were very lucky.
@@chrissyp7433 yes Chrissy I was indeed.👍
@@bigpoppapump2025 yes thank you Bendy indeed.👍
Born in 1976 i can honestly say im amazed at how much the world, qnd especially the UK has changed.
Me too pal, Gen X. We've seen the country change for the worse.
So much enrichment arriving daily , diversity and rainbow people . Also we now have a plethora of genders instead of just two we really are living in a paradise compared to back then
@@laurarules3642 you reckon?
@@laurarules3642 If that's your biggest problem you must lead a charmed life. The rest of us worry about employment, our health and not being able to afford the basics.
Still I suppose it was better back then when they used to give shorter sentences for beasts and Jimmy Saville was upto his filthy tricks. The good old days!
@@laurarules3642 that certainly doesn't sound like paradise to me. A hellscape , maybe
This was riveting. Better than any play or novel could ever be.
Scum is pretty good, the play and film.
@@alexojideaguyes brutal film. British documentary are very good. Probably best in thr world.
I'm going to pretend I am watching Heat.
No matter how bad it gets, who the fuc punches a child!
And repeatedly at that !!! Losing your temper and lashing out is bad enough but nearly killing a 2 year old is pure evil
Anybody being annoyed by one....
I’m wondering if he lied about that and is the same person they spoke about later at the parole board
@@errolkim1334really? 🤔I don’t think so.
@@errolkim1334 nonce.
As a man who was born in 1980 can I say how thankful I am to the authorities of the day for putting these perverts away and protecting my childhood ❤
Also as a man also born in 1980..... "hello mate!"
Fuckin well said me too Mate🤝👍🫡
@@philipboyd7692 the sad part is we're importing the fuckers now🤯
Legit facts mate, I’m 1984 … unluckily before 10 years old one got to me but he only tickled and touched me, I say “ Just “ because compared to being penetrated, or full r raped etc it was at least less physically but still hard for me to process and understand for along tone. Anyway the story gets better, he tried to get his fucking grubby hands on another child on our council estate, and her father was a local gangster, drug dealer, pretty well respected etc and she’d told him about it or he was notified or whatever, and him and a few other of his handy mates together, and they marched into his house, knocked the bastard about a bit tied him up and bundled him into their 4x4 and he was taken up the moors and beaten again, stripped and I was told he was buried in a hole up to his nick, and they left him there, put it this way he was never seen again. But that’s what they said, but I guess you can interpreted how you like.
@@technomickdocumentalist2495 they're actually importing them now
16:00 Well done to the Officer who gave that BEAST a little taste of his own medicine!! 👏
I just said that to my mrs , made me laugh when he said to copper said take your glasses off .
I had to go back to see that coz I was that disgusted st what he was saying I fast forwarded past it. Yeah well done to thst screw for doing that and disgrace to every other screw that doesn’t.
And it’s a disgrace he only got 2 years 4 months.
I wish the police where like this today.
I used to work with an ex copper from Yorkshire. He said he left when they stopped them beating criminals up.
@@damianbutterworth2434I’m from a tiny village in the Scottish highlands where everyone knows everyone’s business. My dad was a “special” for a while in the 80s and it came out that a guy in his 20s was kicking the bejaysus out of his mum and had been for a while. The dad did fuck all and let it happen. One night my dad and the Sergeant, (both ex military), were called to this young guy as he was in the village trying to start a fight with anyone he saw and being a total fud. Dad and Sergeant got him up to the police station and gave him a sound thrashing and told him that if they ever even suspected he was abusing his mum or anyone again they’d break his legs. He spent the night in the cell and waddled home the next morning. He never grassed up and actually went on to sort out his drinking and temper. Dad told me this when I was about 18. Shame today’s police can’t go old school and beat the crap out of violent, abusive people rather than give them a slap on the wrist.
Excellent film, made when television was worth watching. Politics would not allow this to be made today.
True.TV isn't worth watching these days. Woke PC freaks took the reins
There was so much buggery going on back then in Strangeways.
@@FiachraravenOoh err!!!
@@patkearney9320 Yera, Pat, there’s a lot to be said for the madness.
@@patkearney9320 I’m so glad you’re free, Pat, and that you have a wife, someone who loves you. You’re a good man, a really good man.
Fascinating watching this, my dad was a prison officer and this brought back a lot of memories. My early life (born in 54) was growing up on the Isle of Sheppey in the early part of his career. When I was around six or seven dad was transferred to Blundeston maximum security prison when it opened. A few years later he was transferred to Gartree near Market Harborough in Leicestershire. Although I was young I understood that the prisons were maximum security and held some extremely dangerous inmates. He sadly passed away at 45 when I was just 12 but I remember him being very proud of what he did for a living. As I was so young he didn’t share any of his experiences with me but my mum recounted some of them when I was older….. not a career for those of an overly sensitive nature !
I’ve worked with the kids who are the victims of these guys who are constantly let out to abuse others. These kids are seriously messed up for life- it’s heartbreaking how much devastation one man can inflict on so many lives.
It worried me how the meeting to decide whether the child abuser should be let out or not. Staggering lack of knowledge. It felt like a morning chat over coffee
Yup fostered one lad..he was used in a nonce ring and some very high up people..he was messed up for life.
My first wife was brought up in care because her mum’s partner was doing things to her she shouldn’t have been doing. She battled addiction throughout her life. She didn’t trust anyone and was paranoid. She would panic if I was stuck in traffic on the way home from work, she hated being on her own. Some nights she would be sad and tearful and I would have to cuddle her tight and promise I’ll always love and protect her. She was the most sweet and loving woman it’s disgusting what these monsters do to them.
Some abused become abusers
I'm one of them but after 35 years starting to heal finally utter sc*m they are 😢
Assault on a 9 year old child isn’t a serious offence? What world is he living in? Anyone who hurts a child should b put away 4 life in my opinion
Unless they are Israeli then it's just standard operating procedure because they are our allies and they have had a bad time back in the 1940s
Rendered Speechless !!!!!!!
just touchin' 'em....nothin' more......
They are all as bad as each other in prison sadly.
@@peterrobbins2862I think it is Hamas doing that looking at the evidence. Do yourself a favour and read a book.
I remember watching this. I was 12/13 years old. I recall my mother disapproving of me watching it, due to the adult content. My father and older brothers loved it!
Must be the same age as me
4 years after this was shown I was in there and it had not improved much but then again you are there to be punished plus I was only there a couple of weeks as it was an allocation centre at the time, i ended up there again in 1985 and 1987 but just for a few weeks again before I got allocated 😜
I thought i was watching a Porridge Christmas Special. I was wondering why Fletch and Godber hadn't appeared yet 🤔
Good one I remember when they rioted there
Yeah, I was beginning to think it wasn't as funny as I remembered.
@@dianebonner8827in Slade? 😂
Ronni appears at 05:25
@@ic3358that’s mean on the late Ronnie Barker that fella. 😂
Unfortunately as a young apprentice of 16, I was assaulted by a Clark of the works who was employed by Surry county council.
The guy who was supposed to be looking after me did nothing.
I had to threaten him with a claw hammer to keep him away from me.
I leant that day that being a gentle lad working in construction meant that you were going to be violent to keep yourself safe.
That was back in 1979, since then I have been very careful to look after any young man who I have had any form of management over.
I never want anyone to feel as frightened as I was by that old bastard.
Thank god we're not the violent society we were back then. That kind of thing not acceptable these days. People turned a blind eye back then.
What’s your trade?
@@zeddekaAre you having a laugh ? Today's britain is much more violent what with stabbings , rapes robberys , ffs wake up .
Started my 30 years as a screw at strangeways in 1975- what an eye opener
I’d love to hear your experiences. Bet it was a baptism of fire.
I absolutely take my hat off to you. All the Screws in this documentary are very impressive and this is exactly what we need today. No nonsense and professional! Excellent stuff!
Thank you for your service. 🇬🇧
@@georginaohara42 many experiences, worked in cat A jails as well- enjoyed my service- never assaulted, no PTSD and a great pension, look back with good memories
@@Alanhock75 I’m so grateful you have wonderful memories & got out without mental scarring. . When I hear people share their experiences, I almost wish I had been there. Maybe in another lifetime lol. Do you have a channel ? Wishing you a very blessed day 🙏🫶
what a treat to hear from someone NOT claiming PTSD. Even though I reckon some of what you saw would be enough to send these current boohoohooers straight to mommy. Cheers! @@Alanhock75
Even crims were articulate and well spoken back then. Compared to now anyway.
nowadays
Especially all these in prisons saying saying "yeah bruv. Sweet bruv" and all this irritating modern talk that feels patronizing
@@cultfiction3865 it all comes from the top (Gov) from music to film (who runs it all?), the aim is to make you hate your country so they can take it away. same with all the media and films with mixin. i just wish more brits were switched on to hidden hand. many things are way wayy more complex then people think.
@@cultfiction3865 import Africa and you get Africa.
Before they all started acting like they are black.
2 year 4 month sentence for gbh on a 23 month old child ???? Absolutely sickening!! Should never be released 🤬🤬
It was the 'stress he was living under'... save it for the Judge nonce...
And all the excuses!! He used a clenched fist on a toddler so many times he lost count and was lucky to have not killed him 😱 and the boys mother wanted to hide the boys injuries and keep this freak😱🤦 that poor little boy.
Calm down mate. It was 45 years ago
The woman that wanted to hide the damage that the piece of crap did to her 2 year old, needs to be behind bars. The officer that gave him a hiding, well done sir.
That was HIS story.Maybe she wanted to call the police and he threatened her.
Every colour under the sun walks those floors nowadays, a lot has changed in Britain since 1980, thanks for upload, very interesting.
Two years and four months for battering a not yet two year old baby?! NOT LONG ENOUGH! The so called mother should have got sentenced as well for wanting to protect HIM and not her CHILD! 😡
I am shocked I got 8 years for cash machines unbelievable
@@adriantowe278but you’re crime is not the sort of thing that judges,barristers,high ranking police officers,politicians, councillors get turned on by.
Saville got away with it because he was protected by these people because they are all in the same club.
@@timcoakley5498 I agree thanks take care mate
@@Brettmaybullydestroyer don't take this the wrong way but are you been real or was you just joking
@@Brettmaybullydestroyer people sometimes say things not knowing the guy on tv saying he wanted to tell the police to try make him self look good I hope your life is a bit better for you and your mum take care mate and look after your mum thanks for messaging me back take care
At least the copper let him take his glasses off before punching the beasts head in for that poor child.
This is amazing yet obviously sickening at the same time, it’s rare we get a peep at folk “on the numbers” the nonchalance the little Irish one had made me want to puke.
You'd never get interviews like this these days, because of stupid privacy rules.
The person that named the prison obviously had a sense of humor
Yeah good one 😅😅😅
The name is merely derived from its location in Manchester, which is Strangeways.
@@dWFnZWVr Yes, some people should do their homework before making such stupid comments.
Well the person who decided to put the jail in a place called Strangeways has a sense of humour then.@@philfyphil
@@dWFnZWVr It was a local name for hmp Manchester,if you had strange ways you would end up there
officer: “you’ll be hard pressed to find 2 straights down ‘ere 😂
Ha ha 😂😅lol 😂 😅I know so funny when he said that right.
Fabulous, not seen this strangeways documentary before.❤😊
Same here. HMP Risely aka Grisely Risely! 😂
“Please protect me” that’s what your victims thought.
It’s mad how eloquent prisoners were back then. If you see modern prison footage they are barely literate.
Yeah they're having a nice old civilised conversation in that kitchen.
Yes, drugs have really screwed up prison life.
Was thinking the same. They all seem to realise they need to work things out.
I live in south wales had a mate who went to jail (Welsh jail) and came out talking like he was in a drill gang from London …. Fucking muppet!
Better class of inmate back then!
Fantastic doc.. this what British television was all about! I also loved the 90's style crime documentaries aswell! 💯✌️
Same. I've never seen this but documentaries now are nothing like this.
Some Great British traditions on display in the 1st few minutes "Beast!" still carrying on today. Men & lads can have all sorts of faults in life but what Beasts did & do is unforgivable!!
What is so disheartening, is to hear them talk about their grotesque crimes with no real remorse and plenty of ad hoc justifications. Nothing has been learnt, whatsoever. Back on the streets they go, just to reoffend.
Paedos can’t be rehabilitated
Respect to these prison guards. That guard who dealt with the Removal of the occupant due to being homosexual was truely a professional approach. Think he was ex army. Hard work especially in those days. I salute you sir.
You didn’t seem them off camera.
Should have showed him some cold steel!! They don't like it up em 😊
@darrenremington6422 he would of
Dr Campbell played a huge part in allowing many dozens of dangerous sex offenders to be released and to re-offend.
Scum.
Has it ever occurred to anyone looking back on this that he may have been the organiser of a ring.
That bleeding heart woman didn’t help. Only Mr Pascall knew what was what.
@kidsfitbyhiit2fit766 good point
Unfortunately these monsters existed at my boarding school in the 1980s. I hope children are safer now that people are more aware of their methods. Nothing is more devastating than abuse
There is a belief that monsters look like monsters, unfortunately they are hiding in plain sight in positions of responsibility near children. I hope you have been able to leave the trauma behind.
Imagine not committing any crime but choosing a job that puts you inside amongst these sex cases for years every day. Tough job
My dad had that job as an instructor for 35 years in HMP Durham
@@MackemdownsouthF.T.Mhe must have come across some horrible scum in there. Do you know any stories of these sex cases getting seriously beaten by staff? I hope so
@@truthseeker9945 in my 30 years, this happened many times
Imagine hurting a child and then blaming it on the fact that You were out of work . 😢
I met an officer on a visit to Strangeways 20 years ago who said he preferred working on this wing. Don't know how unusual this was. Obviously, I wouldn't trust any of these people at all outside prison, but inside day to day, they're not as bad as some of the people who've done stuff like GBH and robbery. I can see why a spell on this wing might be a bit of a break from that.
Being stuck in a cell with a couple of fruits, that's truly revolting.
Not as bad as the nonces
cracking array of videos you put up, i subscribed....thanks lad
The convo between the cell mates is almost comedy sketch level😂
Brilliant isn't it comedy at it's finest right.
When i was in Preston prison in 2003 there was a guy in for having sex with his mums corpse and another guy in for having sex with a pony so they padded them up together 😂😂imagine the conversations they would have 😜
I'm getting the word.....NONCE!!!
Ya'lright?
Clinton baptiste is doing a UK tour this year 😂
@@pmin5554The spirits are very strong tonight!
You've got to be cruel to be kind.
@@iant340Don't shoot the messenger!
Nearly beat a toddler to death 2 to 3 years sentence, wtf
Yeah I was gobsmacked at that. Judges just don't care when its offences against kids.
@@OrdinaryJoe12 True enough - crimes against property/wealth are often punished more harshly than crimes against individuals and why? Because the people that make the laws are more concerned about those things.
@@finncullenthe government want natives ded. Crimes they hate are ilegal guns, tax evasion, bank jobs and anything against chewish people. Facts.
Thst was mad. Gbh against a fkn baby...2/3years.... stress he says🤷🤦 omg. Should still be locked up now
I wonder what became of that character?
Nonces have not changed in appearance. They still look the same today, it’s just that look they have. Surprised these were not rocking Slazenger
The scary thing is that they really don't
true though a lot have big bushy beards and wear sandals wont eat bacon for breakfast
I thought the same its just something about them
@@adriantowe278 So scientific.
@@EddieAstma ha ha I like that one
Screws look hard as nails back then
Bullies and criminal minded, hence why offenders never forgave the authorities for employing biologically sick animals!!!!!
soft as shit these days woke and diverse
Lots of them battered the prisoners.
Even battered the YOUTH prisoners.
In Armley, they were well known, and thankfully prosecuted for their horrific bullying of vulnerable men.
They WERE tough, but lots of them were sadistic bullying bastards, who fed young men to KNOWN RAPISTS!
its easy to look at these videos and think they were honourable men, although some of them really were decent men, but a significant number of them were just psychopathic sadists with no morals.
Prison is a parallel universe, where might makes right, but at the end of the day, huge numbers of these screws abused prisoners for two decades.
Bit like the Police too. Since my retirement it's gone soft and fluffy.
My old time friends dad was a screw there for 30 years .
He’s still hard as nails in his retirement 😊
The Screws were proper screws in them days - they oozed authority.
Many were ex-army back then.
These days it’s all about gender pronouns.
And utter contempt for the nonces
Scum
All screws are fckin wanker cowards 💯👍
Bon king nowadays
Didn't realise Brian Clough used to be a prison warden.
Hahahahaha
Now then Young man ! Cloughie was the best
@@mcfcguvnors OHHHH that was a DISGRAAACE! You want bluddy SHOOOOTINNNNGGGGG!
Ha! Thought the same . recognised the Middlesbrough accent 👏👍
😂😂
As a father of 30 month old boy that evil scum who beat that kid makes me feel an anger I’ve never felt before
Good on that copper for giving him a good hiding
My dad used to say with people like this " I'd break his legs"
The conversation between the three cell mates was super interesting. It was like a comedy skit.
This is how to run a prison. None of this pandering to the prisoners - oh sorry - clients! They do what they're told, they do their time and they leave. Brilliant prison officers.
The first 30 seconds is exactly what I like to here 👏 😊a real citizen for the people 😊.
I was raped as a 6 year old in 1966 by a 19 year old lad, he got 18 months. I was permanently damaged internally & it had an effect on my growing up years. 😢
So sorry to hear that, should of been a harsher sentence than that. Terrible.
Please stay strong
Bstard sorry to hear that
I’m so bloody sad reading this. Sending love and a hope for peace for you .
@@DemeterTelphousia-Erinyes thank you 🙏🏻
I was born in the 50’s. I wish I was back in those years. Tv was good in the 70’s Play for Today etc. When Tv was worth watching.
The policeman who told you to take your glasses off I would like to shake your hands well done sir for doing it to him
I can't believe the woman on the parole board is considering letting him out because he can't get treatment in prison. Big f in deal. Keep him locked up.
absolutely , no one cares about that kind of scum anyway
Don't know myself. People have to be able to move on from their offences eventually. Touching boys is bad but it's not murder. There are plenty of support networks for sexually abused bairns these days that can draw strength from each others experiences.its not like they have to carry it around alone
@@cultfiction3865 The kids never ever get over it and the beasts never ever stop wanting to reoffend.
@cultfiction3865 you are dodgy.
@@keh.32"I'm getting the word... NONCE!"
I can't believe that guy just admitted he battered a kid on camera,
Then he said when his partner came home cos they've got a strong relationship she wanted to hide it!!!! 2 years 4 months for GBH on a baby ffs
that kid will be in their mid-40s now. I wonder if he or she has ever seen this footage?
@@stevenmcghee6649 If he has, I bet he goes looking for the bastard if he's still alive.
Now this is fascinating.
If anyone is interested i highly recommend a documentary called Mini about an endearing little pyromaniac kid.
thats one of loius theroux's favourites
the kid from the north east?
@@MrAlistar99 way eye man
At heart Mini never meant any harm .Instead of tying to help him , his father used to punch and hit him with his belt. When he was asked if he felt like setting fire to the second school his reply was "NO , THERE WHERE KIDS IN THERE"..
@@jamielee9350 wonder how he turned out
25:04 that was a brilliant conversation..he said "you get half hour on exercise and you spend 15 minutes trying to find out whos queer".
I take it you've one then yes. That guy has no respect and consent is highly debatable in prison and homosexuality shouldn't be allowed and is frowned upon In UK prisons and rightly so.
@@lrwguitar Definitely not what i have seen on the news and heard about, YOIs are full of people that are consenting, adult prisons are worse, there is no such thing as a straight man. Some criminals target people to use. Lots of STIs are treated in prisons!
@@Bond2025 a lot of shitty dickies on that wing by the sounds of it phew
The guy who hurt the wee bairn? He was in bad conditions? Stressed?My Da went down a pit every week, the depths of the earth and took nothing out on us!! Under pressure? Are you kidding me? Poor bairn😔
The Irishman at 12:00 is saying he doesn’t think it’s a serious offence at all, in 1980, but society disagreed, roll on to 2024 and we have a movement for M.A.P. that’s minor attracted person, an adult who’s sexually attracted to kid. The idea being that so long as the child consents ( not sure how that’s obtained) and not physically harmed then it’s just another expression of human sexuality. It’s gaining ground because now they have kids deciding in primary school if they want to change gender, and a court will uphold their decision and approve hormone treatment. Well if a child is considered able to decide such a thing then the argument from the nonces is they’re also able to decide on sexual activity. Hence we have lessons now for small children telling them about masturbation and other stuff that a small child has no need to know about. But we have a massive paedo ring in power, from the royals to the politicians to celebrities to music big names and actors, look at the list who went to Epstein island.
When I was in jail in 1984 we had no idea who was a nonce, unless someone had some information and made it known, most of us were car thieves and burglars robbers and other stupid shit that young men do. The segregation wing E wing was apparently IRA but officially that wing was knocked down in 1969 (Reading jail) but we ( young offenders) were abusing them verbally as they watched from the locked landing gate ( letting air into the wing next to the yard) while we played volley ball, the screw told us that if we knew who they really were we’d shit ourselves, that they were the real deal. They didn’t shout back. We had a Hells Angel come in after a shooting in the New Forest. He got respect and everyone avoided him. He was only n remand. Walking about in his leather wastecoat. Anyway nonces can’t be cured cos they don’t see it as a crime. That’s why Gary glitter got refused parole last week an he’s 79, he’s incurable and can’t be trusted.
Well blow me down…..! An intelligent comment
Think you will find by the nature of his tattoo's that he wouldn't agree to you calling him Irish he is an Ulster loyalist who sees himself as British not Irish
@@JustSean413 So he "Identifies as British" - and to think we thought that was a new phenomenon
In the 1970s there was a similar group to the one you are describing, called the Paedophile Information Exchange (PIE). They also argued that having sex with children was an act of their self-expression and interest in minors. Thet were disbanded in the 1980s but not until allegations were made against senior politicians for their connections and support for the group, particularly the Labour politician Harriet Harman. These people have been at it and protected for centuries.
Trying to excuse some religions...
I was 1 year old when this came out, such a different word back then one I'd be happy to go to
Me to mate
@kevinadams346 no worries anytime
@kevinadams346 sad isn't it how good England was back then and now look at it
What? Having someone empty your nappy and feed you Farleys Rusks. Weirdo.
The good old days where nonces were overprotected????
I used to work on the servery in Brixton. One of my jobs was to take food to the beast’s wing upstairs. Many extra “ingredients” were added to their food on my way up the stairs by the lads.
That screw was great i liked him
Homosexual desires?
I was 12. This seems like a million years ago now.
Good thing you weren't in NONCE wing then.
The scene with the straight man and two gays is so funny!
He was definitely in the closet!
@Bond2025 exactly what I was thinking. The meek little guy had him spot on and was clearly trying to coax a 'coming out' 😂
Parole hearing a joke poor prisoner,never mind the boy he assaulted
Not much has changed there..
30:32 that guy Steve is a very devious piece of work. I’m glad they moved him out
You can see it in him can't you.
I did wonder if there was more to him but I feel bad being automatically suspicious.
Was looking for a comment like this. I thought that as well.
@@kaysmith8992Admitted a previous offence for noncery. A little psychopath.
@@kaysmith8992 No need to feel bad, every single word he spoke was for his gain, even when he lost the decision all he could do was talk about his injustice and denigrate the other person.
Being isolated for 3 months would further reinforce to himself he was correct.
He also had a worrying blink.👍
i like the start with the honest comments from staff
This was actually filmed at the end of 1979 I think, although it was broadcast at the end of 1980.
Brian Glover keeps them in line...
All beasts need the prison justice
What about people who come into your house and nick your stuff? Or those who pick fights and leave people with serious injuries?
I was a screw for 14years…..normal screw to SO to dog handler……worked all over the country, even Holloway……..been told I should write a book! lol…..the things I’ve seen……unbelievable! Beats anything I saw in the military, hands down!!
You best learn the correct use of punctuation first.
@@SpeccyMan😂😂😂
An eye opener this even for 1980 44 year's ago i wonder how many returned to strangeways since this was filmed and for the same crimes
All the beasts... Every time
Sadly true I really don't know the answers to this continued problem as this film shows it's a long standing offence
Very good way to deal with Steve👍
He came across as very devious
@@desdicadoricall homosexuals are devious, can’t trust ‘em.
NONCE means 'not on normal courtyard exercise'
Not many folk know the acronym anymore
It's an urban myth. It's a backronym
@@dionomed9144 they are all on the landings and spurs now with cover stories and eyes and ears for the uniforms..... .they learned that it's cheaper and more convenient to use them than segregate them.....all the lads that aren't on normal location are good heads on GOAD.... another acronym that is a nonsense catchall umbrella term that's totally a backronyn when it comes to common sense . Unless that Is your a security SO...... ......how times change........ Only so called beasts ..just plain evil to me are spotted by the normal location lads through intel...more often than not supplied by the screws ..so the system turns. around the panopticon. wheel........
It doesn't - the word predates that rather contrived explanation. It's known as a "Backronym" where people come up with an explanation after the event. In the same way "chav" doesn't mean "council housed and violent" as some people boldly state it does, it's a Romany word meaning "youth"
Not Of Normal Criminal Element
There’s no cure for kiddie fiddler’s
The noose
@@bartonbank2531 Fair one
Agreed, but they are no different to other criminals, they're all as bad as each other, all locked away for a reason, all kept away from decent honest people.
Boiling water and sugar goes some way to curing them . Trust me
@@ciaranlynam2456boiling water and bleach and shit save the sugar
"They [the nonces] go through hell here!"
Wow! That guy is... I dunno, sympathetic? I just couldn't be like that...
Hindsight is a strange thing. When I looked back at my middle childhood, between 7 and 12 years old... I realised that there had been at least three or four separate times when I came close to being predated on and/or sexually assaulted by two or three older individuals in my life. One was a 14/16 year old neighbour who _attempted something_ a couple of separate times but didn't have or take the _opportunity,_ so to speak. Another was a vicar (35-45 years old perhaps?) who ran the younger kids youth club in his big church hall. He also knew my neighbour. I never noticed their advances at the time, and it was only when I was looking back which made me pause and then turn white with shock. Very strange feeling. When that kid was about 18/20, a group of similar aged lads hunted him down after a kid brother of one of them confided to his older brother that he'd done 'something'. The nonce ended up in hospital with a demolished face, missing teeth, internal bleeding, multiple broken limbs etc. His family disowned him, they are a lovely family and just as in shock about their vile son... I believe he ended up in prison for doing what _they_ do! 😐
*Shudder!*
I know they have to be locked up there for the safety of us all but what freaks me out is to think that there is possibly still some inmates locked away who were there when I was on the roof looking down into some cells about 30 years ago. When you think of all the freedoms fun and liberty you have enjoyed over the years and some poor yes maybe evil mental souls have been banged up to keep us safe.
good on the screw for putting the last one down the block, very nasty character, despite his harmless demeaner.
There is no curing a sex offender. Ever.
Oh there is, a short rope and a long drop
Castration.
There is..a bullet
or any other scum in prison.
@@Bond2025no cure for leftists and people who are ok with enthoside. Like you?
Hey, that guy singing "WITH YOU I'M BORN AGAIN" was pretty good !
I thought so too. Very talented.
Jésus after watching this england HAS gone DOWN the Drain big time, even the prisoners were Well spoken and Well mannered
Yeah ridiculous to watch how civilised they were back then
@@joesmoothee Prisoners were more civilised than the average person today.
that screw in charge would of made it as a hangman he’s got a touch of the Albert pierrepoint
Extraordinary documentary. Such a fascinating window in.
When the kid basher said the CID officer asked him to remove his glasses. 👋 thrown..
Yes I had to laugh when he said that.😂😂😂
2and helf years I got 8 years for cash machines unbelievable
@@adriantowe278 you can't mess with their money, but they can mess with the kids,
Mate, it's the civil service middle class climbers, they all come through the public school system, where subservience is bred into them from an early age, and taking it in the rear is a life lesson to understand there is a hierarchy, so sex crimes isn't much of a thing to them, so crimes against children doesn't really resonate like it does with the likes of us from the working class.
good job by the officer
@@adriantowe278 where did you spend the time?
12:15 ".. Before I know it I have my hands on them.."!! 😂😂
@@Theduke12 because it's insane, he's making out his hands aren't controlled by his brain! 🤣
I have the same problem but with cash 😅😅😅
That guys opinions are abhorrent. He seems annoyed that ppl in the outside world consider sexually assaulting a 9 year old a serious crime. The undercurrent being that he doesn’t, unfathomable!
@@Rob-ws2khagreed. That blokes moral compass is off the scale.
@@Rob-ws2khhes insane and repulsive!
2:52 isn’t that Anton Chigurh?! This is No country for bad wigs. 😂
12:39 beautiful folk. Warms my heart to hear this.
i remember in HMP Bedford the screws would open up certain inmates over the lunch break ...so they could batter the beasts whose door they would forget to shut 😂😂
Unfortunately you get a lot of bent, corrupt and disturbed officers.
@@Bond2025you spelt fortunately wrong
Prison is about order. Recognising what you’ve done wrong. The way these officers installed order is superb. All of the prisoners need help. Not from prison officers though, there has to be a line between order and rehabilitation
I visited Strangeways with work in 2000. Was shown a lot of differet parts, including the equivalent of this wing, which was called the Vulnerable Prisoners wing. One group that were in this wing (and not mentioned in this film) were people who owed money to high level criminals, usually over drugs. They couldn't be safe on normal location, so there they were.
They mentioned the tobacco barons which were the same really. Probably less drugs around than now also.
@@krakenturdz I was confused by the tobacco baron thing. What does that mean? Why would they be in such danger?
@@chrismanners9091 A tobbaco/drug baron is/was someone who has access to tobbaco/drugs in prison, then sells it on to fellow inmates for a profit on a smoke now pay later principle. If you have no family outside to give you money before you know it your in debt. Can't pay? You get a smack in the face, or worse.
@@chrismanners9091you borrow half ounce you owe 1 ounce next week. It is what it is. Don’t borrow in prison.
You shouldn't go in numbers for any circumstance you'll get more respect sticking around and taking what ever punishment is dished out. Don't borrow and don't bet. Simple really.
Excellent documentary
At 36:00 listen to the song on the radio 📻. That song suits these blokes. Wow this is definitely 1980 because that song came out than.
Babe by Styx.
@@BunyanaRed1958 good 👍 song 🎶
well spotted dan!! so funny hahaah
@@19george73 big hit back than especially over here in America 🇺🇸
to be fair, i thought for some reason "styx" was a heavy rock band, gonna have a little download of their hits now!! hahaha where in usa are you mate?@@danrobinson572
TOTALLY agree with the introduction !!!!
this series, hands down, beats 'Kubrick's A Clockwork Orange': real life, no nonsense societal outcasts and their 'superiors'. Liberal social workers, authoritarian guvnors, hard pressed screws, reclaritant offenders-the lot!
Brilliant job for uploading.
What's misplaced forced distopian psychotherapic torture and life-changing mind control in clockwork orange got to do with a real life prison system made to rehabilitate men to society..... Ya pranny!...your clever you are...m
How can you compare a documentary to a work of fiction….?? Absolutely preposterous, and you have clearly demonstrated that you have no critical understanding whatsoever of the film A Clockwork Orange. Oh dear 😂
@@wesleyashworth5061 But I did, didn't I. I have a critical understanding of the book, the film, and the sociological 'sitz im leben' which society provided for both Burgess and Kubrick: the evidence of which is clearly outlined in this documentary.
watch your blood pressure 🤣
@@nathanielgrant3909 sociological ‘sitz im leben’ notwithstanding, your contention that the documentary series “ beats Kubrik’s A Clockwork Orange hands down” is still preposterous. Which is best, a train or a pencil ?
@@wesleyashworth5061 Alright then: this amelioration.
"I found, in this documentary series, all of the sociological themes which Kubrick intended to unpack in his adaptation of Burgess's A Clockwork Orange' brought into *vivid* relief in the stark actuality of the unreconstructed criminal life, the repressive authoritarianism of the screws, the world-weary cynicism of the guv'nors, the glib liberalism of social workers and the lack of honour among criminals. Life succeded in outshining the imitations of art-for me personally, in this instance of portraying our systems of correction of the human condition."
Amazing to hear the parole board reflecting on a paedophiles 'treatment' before considering his release. What 'treatment' can be given to someone whose sexual preference is children? Absolutely nothing can change that.
True, but maybe what they mean by "treatment" is to give them the self discipline to not molest children despite remaining attracted to them.
'steve' who got sent to the punishment block was a very creepy guy
Yeah I thought that myself he looked creepy right.
@@marielewis2803 I think he's got an undiagnosed mental health condition. Possibly a personality disorder, borderline psychotic elements.
Already on the sex offenders wing and he's up to his old trucks again
He was definitely grooming the younger one.
@@Steven-xj6yb considering gays at the time had a higher legal age of consent than the rest of us, I wonder if he was even a sexual offender by our standards - in 1980 you could be a sex offender for sleeping with a 20 year-old adult man, but shagging a 16 year-old girl was legally fine.
UK prisons a different world back in 1980. Iron rule, no luxuries for prisoners and very little drug-taking!
Horrific rates of buggery though.
The guards were good with their fists .It isn't tolerated now
@RollinNoMolly Yes, that’s just about it.
@@Marvin-dg8vj fisticuffs
The mullets are overwhelming
Unfortunately if u r not wired up right, no counselling or therapy will help…it’s just the way they are.
At 35.54 the prison office timed that well, listen to the song on the radio on the background as he packs his stuff to leave the cell.
Ha ha classic
i was waiting to see Godper
Is that Cloughie's brother at the beginning and never understood why people think it's a badge of honour to have been sent to Prison?? Also, the screws look proper back in the day also, like they'd smash ya if you fcuked about!! 😀
yep...i gt whacked for having my shirt hanging out at the dinner que 😂
It's a strong emotional journey not a badge of pride....some criminal are products of the environment....care ETC etc....abuse...it Is a recurring story.....most start with the care system...
Lots were ex army so didn’t take any shit
@@pmin5554 too many ex army ..POA was like the British legion. At one time. . changed a bit but yes they were represented
Gay PACKS HIS KIT, TO MOVE from his. Lover AND THE radio PLAYS***, I'll be lonely without YOU..,, ****
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