I appreciate the review. We have entirely different experiences with the same product. This could be from inconsistencies in production? First of all, my NVG30 came with an SD card pre-installed. Secondly, while I agree, the mounting system is not optimal, but I was able to mount it seamlessly to my HHV ballistic helmet without issue. I will be replacing it as soon as possible. Ultimately, I’ll be replacing the unit with an Arkayne Photonis set up, so this will be a temporary unit and possibly a ‘hand out’ on a bump helmet. Saturday, I took the NVG 30 to a night shoot in New Hampshire. It performed flawlessly (electronics), though I did find myself needing to tighten the mount after moving dynamically. I was able to engage targets from 25-100 yards, using a Streamlight TLR IR 69192 on my Noveske 13.7 Infidel 5.56. I found latency at 30hz that faded to nearly unnoticeable at 40hz. Is this as good as a PVS-14? Of course not, but for the money, I found it to be very serviceable and a good stop-gap until I finally get the Arkayne PVS bridged with a thermal clip on. It will likely be relegated to a crye soft shell mount for simple ‘bump in the night’ use, but for now, I have an entirely opposite experience with my NVG-30. Once I dialed in the focus, it made it through a 5-hour night class and I’d not hesitate handing it to a friend as a ‘better than nothing’ unit. I do again agree - the mount is the weak point, yet at the same time - it’s better than no mounting option at all. Thanks again for your take on it. Be well.
the nvg30 viewfinder test at minute 44 looks disingenuous at best... you're probably not at the right eye relief distance. Like, it's impossible for it to look so bad compared to the prowl. None of these cheap devices that I know have that problem.
Very few other reviews actually show the view through the viewfinder. Almost all of the footage from others is using the built in recording function, which was shown for most of the review. If you had actually watched the video, the viewfinder is only mentioned after extensively discussing the device's actual physical ability to perform, and we discussed the discrepency between the viewfinder and sensor footage as occurring only in the viewfinder lenses, not in the front objective lens or the sensor or the device's data processing. We also stated explicitly that this would be an objectively superior device and highly competitive if the only change made was better lenses in the viewfinder. Other reviewers without affiliate links from goodnitegear, such as extruded shoots, mention the severe fisheye distortion also, but unlike us, he had a more lenient interpretation of this due to price. We want there to be pressure for binock to improve, so we called it like it is and demonstrated it for you. The prowl was mounted in the exact same way on the exact same day in the exact same room and focused identically. We did not change the focus setting from when we did the shootout at night because we mounted all of the devices including the PVS14 on the same RC2 interface, and an identically compatible RC2 interface was used to mount the prowl and NVG30 on the slider rig. I don't know what more you want from our protocols other than a 15 min B roll showing us setting that up. We can do this if you really don't believe us even though I think it'd be a waste of time as the results won't change even if we change the focal length or diopter.
Bro, I know now one is paying you to do this. So why? The prowl over the nvg 30? C'mon. Other than the field of view the prowl under performs the 30 in everything. My experience. That FOV though.
It's kinda bizarre that you reached that conclusion after watching the entire review, because we explicitly said that we can see the sensor and processing performance is good, and that if it wasn't for the crappy mounting interface and objectively bad viewfinder (i.e what you actually look through), we would be recommending it.
@DD-hz3ts you may have said that in one instance but you said a lot of other things and showed a lot of other comparisons of these devices in other instances that defied my own experience . The prowl is horrible man. The light amplification. The lag. The build quality. Who gives a piddly f*#& about the camera mounting options? Plenty of low light cameras out there at this price point. And the market has spoken. As for the view finder, ever try the aurora? Vast improvement. Huge peripheral market already for the thirty. Nothing for the prowl. Know why? It sucks!
@@JF6798 there is peripheral market because it needs it. The OEM helmet mount is absolute trash. The prowl's design allows you to change which eye it goes on, using a G24 mount, without buying anything at all. The way it's installed, it can go on any gopro head mount. We've used all of the major options, including the opsin and an actual PVS14. The purpose of this recommendation is to get someone a home defense capability to see IR signatures and utilize a low light recording capability (which could be used in court) at a low cost, with a minimum of adaptation. The recordings are from the back of the unit as you'd use it, not using the onboard recording only like 99% of other reviewers do for ease of content production. Can you use the NVG30? Obviously yes. If your unit has a better rear lens then upload your own footage *from the rear output lens*. If it got better then I'd like to know. But to my knowledge it didn't. Even extruded shoots acknowledges the fisheye distortion, but unlike him we have other digital devices that we have compared it to, using their viewfinder images too. I don't have to defend my claims because the proof is there. It's a repeatable test medium that you can do too.
I appreciate the review. We have entirely different experiences with the same product. This could be from inconsistencies in production?
First of all, my NVG30 came with an SD card pre-installed.
Secondly, while I agree, the mounting system is not optimal, but I was able to mount it seamlessly to my HHV ballistic helmet without issue. I will be replacing it as soon as possible. Ultimately, I’ll be replacing the unit with an Arkayne Photonis set up, so this will be a temporary unit and possibly a ‘hand out’ on a bump helmet.
Saturday, I took the NVG 30 to a night shoot in New Hampshire. It performed flawlessly (electronics), though I did find myself needing to tighten the mount after moving dynamically.
I was able to engage targets from 25-100 yards, using a Streamlight TLR IR 69192 on my Noveske 13.7 Infidel 5.56.
I found latency at 30hz that faded to nearly unnoticeable at 40hz. Is this as good as a PVS-14? Of course not, but for the money, I found it to be very serviceable and a good stop-gap until I finally get the Arkayne PVS bridged with a thermal clip on.
It will likely be relegated to a crye soft shell mount for simple ‘bump in the night’ use, but for now, I have an entirely opposite experience with my NVG-30. Once I dialed in the focus, it made it through a 5-hour night class and I’d not hesitate handing it to a friend as a ‘better than nothing’ unit.
I do again agree - the mount is the weak point, yet at the same time - it’s better than no mounting option at all.
Thanks again for your take on it. Be well.
They make mounts to mount to a wilcox.
Fantastic work man.
“Surprise airsoft pvp”
*I was laughing out loud*
Love your style bro. Keep up the great work!
This is sinister looking at first thought I was gonna break contact and do some Chem experiments
Impresionante trabajo!! Gracias!!!
Great job on the review!
Great video !
Since you didn’t like it can you give me yours please?
the nvg30 viewfinder test at minute 44 looks disingenuous at best... you're probably not at the right eye relief distance. Like, it's impossible for it to look so bad compared to the prowl. None of these cheap devices that I know have that problem.
Very few other reviews actually show the view through the viewfinder.
Almost all of the footage from others is using the built in recording function, which was shown for most of the review.
If you had actually watched the video, the viewfinder is only mentioned after extensively discussing the device's actual physical ability to perform, and we discussed the discrepency between the viewfinder and sensor footage as occurring only in the viewfinder lenses, not in the front objective lens or the sensor or the device's data processing. We also stated explicitly that this would be an objectively superior device and highly competitive if the only change made was better lenses in the viewfinder. Other reviewers without affiliate links from goodnitegear, such as extruded shoots, mention the severe fisheye distortion also, but unlike us, he had a more lenient interpretation of this due to price. We want there to be pressure for binock to improve, so we called it like it is and demonstrated it for you.
The prowl was mounted in the exact same way on the exact same day in the exact same room and focused identically. We did not change the focus setting from when we did the shootout at night because we mounted all of the devices including the PVS14 on the same RC2 interface, and an identically compatible RC2 interface was used to mount the prowl and NVG30 on the slider rig. I don't know what more you want from our protocols other than a 15 min B roll showing us setting that up. We can do this if you really don't believe us even though I think it'd be a waste of time as the results won't change even if we change the focal length or diopter.
Cant tell if slow or talking like that to meme...
Mine came with a mirco sd card
Yes, 16 gb
Bro, I know now one is paying you to do this. So why? The prowl over the nvg 30? C'mon. Other than the field of view the prowl under performs the 30 in everything. My experience.
That FOV though.
It's kinda bizarre that you reached that conclusion after watching the entire review, because we explicitly said that we can see the sensor and processing performance is good, and that if it wasn't for the crappy mounting interface and objectively bad viewfinder (i.e what you actually look through), we would be recommending it.
@DD-hz3ts you may have said that in one instance but you said a lot of other things and showed a lot of other comparisons of these devices in other instances that defied my own experience . The prowl is horrible man. The light amplification. The lag. The build quality. Who gives a piddly f*#& about the camera mounting options? Plenty of low light cameras out there at this price point. And the market has spoken. As for the view finder, ever try the aurora? Vast improvement. Huge peripheral market already for the thirty. Nothing for the prowl. Know why? It sucks!
@@JF6798 there is peripheral market because it needs it. The OEM helmet mount is absolute trash. The prowl's design allows you to change which eye it goes on, using a G24 mount, without buying anything at all. The way it's installed, it can go on any gopro head mount.
We've used all of the major options, including the opsin and an actual PVS14. The purpose of this recommendation is to get someone a home defense capability to see IR signatures and utilize a low light recording capability (which could be used in court) at a low cost, with a minimum of adaptation. The recordings are from the back of the unit as you'd use it, not using the onboard recording only like 99% of other reviewers do for ease of content production. Can you use the NVG30? Obviously yes. If your unit has a better rear lens then upload your own footage *from the rear output lens*. If it got better then I'd like to know.
But to my knowledge it didn't. Even extruded shoots acknowledges the fisheye distortion, but unlike him we have other digital devices that we have compared it to, using their viewfinder images too.
I don't have to defend my claims because the proof is there. It's a repeatable test medium that you can do too.
Zzzzzzzzzzzzz, this was hard to watch....
Holy shit right? My new bedtime asmr