Excellent. Two level headed legends who care deeply about this country. Amazing how this often comes with such resistance. Great conversation, thanks for making it happen.
Its easy to criticize when you are setting on the spectators chair, if you think you are that leader the the cloves and get into the ring and after five year repeat what you said, and match that with what happened. Its difficult to be a leader in Afrika when you have the hand of the colonizer still at play behind the seen, you can criticize but think about it change the colonial system, you may have sanctions please the colonizer then revolt or coup d'état . What happened to Gaddaffi , Robert Mogabe, Chris Hani, and Samorah Marshel just to mention the few? think about it red pill or blue pill each have its own results. Vusi is dancing to the white music then the DJ will reward him, they pick the best and bring them within there circle and control and keep a close watch to them , the brain of this guy is good if he met Chris Hani and Mama Winnie today he will be the most hated black person by the white man
No, Vusi should be one of the Government DTI advisors and they should implement some of his advice. No, he should not be the president, he will not be able say what he thinks.
Nope, I disagree, he can be a good adviser to leaders but not a political leader. Government requires patriotic, robust diplomatic and militantly smart person who will be able to take a stand against the explanation of country by imperialists.
Vusi T. is correct. South Africans need a President who doesn't care whether you like me. SA needs a lot of solid recontraction. Two of them can rule. SA G can be a Vice President for Vusi😅 Or V. Can be a Vice President for G. Yes, The New party will be V&G Glory; both can do much better for South Africans. Yeah, keep speaking, Mr. Vusi. South African Government is sucked right now ppl hate to hear the truth. Look at Down Town JHB is that what Winnie Mandela was fighting for? Ahh, ANC brought Shameful to SA. Thank to Mr G for this powerful interview
Vusi, Cliff excellent talk show. Vusi is a very well and intelligent speaker including Gareth. Vusi is an excellent leader. But needs a major change. Our low and jobless people need to see and understand this. The problem is most of our low jobless income people don't get these messages. We need effective media communication without the ANC mafia blocking the media. People's eyes should be open to see where this government is heading. WAKE UP SOUTH AFRICA!!!!!!!!!!
No matter how tough it gets please dont stop what you are both doing. You have no idea how much you breath oxygen into our future. You are both appreciated beyond measure.
but that's exactly what EFF wants to make South Africa like. crime free within a year. Advancing our civilization. The only reason some middle class and some rich people fear in them is that they don't subscribe to the existing power structures that are remnants of apartheid spatialization ANC BEE. So, you've got apartheid apologists and BEE beneficiaries (both minorities) trying to protect what they have at the expense of everyone else.
I felt a bit emotional when Gareth said he will not leave South Africa because it's home and he can make the most difference here. You can see Vusi is checked out and whether SA survives or not he has made plans to not only survive but thrive outside of the country but who can blame him. I think a lot of South Africans are idealists and don't want to abandon the ship because we believe in the incredible potential of this country but the truth is you have to be a realist like Vusi and start preparing and put your life jacket on because the ship is definitely sinking.
I have watched this interview/ discussion twice. These two gentlemen are top class. Vusi is phenomenal and we are so very lucky that Gareth is not leaving SA, he is right, he is definitely needed here. ❤ This is by far my favorite interview ❤
When you speak your truth, you are called a "clever black". It's a phrase coined for those that dare speak their minds. Continue speaking your truth, it's needed in SA and the world.
its like as blacks we must all conform and have a lifetime commitment to not be critical thinkers, basically stay dumb...and we allow daft pple to convince us of this sh!t🚮
No need to get woke, we all want a working country, if your fellow black isn't doing that, there is absolutely no need to keep voting for him. You can't keep on voting for people who are not working just because you want to stay loyal to the color of your skin. @@FBA.TonYahu6704
This conversation needs to be on every South African television set. The thoughts and opinions expressed here are an example of what happens when competence is valued over popularity. Thanks Gareth for not shying away from the tough conversations, and thank you Vusi for being a shinning light. I hope the overall message of this conversation reaches as many people as possible!
Its easy to criticize when you are setting on the spectators chair, if you think you are that leader the the cloves and get into the ring and after five year repeat what you said, and match that with what happened. Its difficult to be a leader in Afrika when you have the hand of the colonizer still at play behind the seen, you can criticize but think about it change the colonial system, you may have sanctions please the colonizer then revolt or coup d'état . What happened to Gaddaffi , Robert Mogabe, Chris Hani, and Samorah Marshel just to mention the few? think about it red pill or blue pill each have its own results. Vusi is dancing to the white music then the DJ will reward him, they pick the best and bring them within there circle and control and keep a close watch to them , the brain of this guy is good if he met Chris Hani and Mama Winnie today he will be the most hated black person by the white man
Thank you Gareth , for bringing this man on your show. Vusi , You should have been President of SA. Your terminology , problem solving , intellect , analysis and ideology is amazing. Not to mention , your calmness and humbleness. I think Vusi would be the greatest leader SA would have ever seen. I would be thrilled and happy to work under his supervision and leadership. Lord , please make this man president.
Vusi & Gareth spoke like two siblings relaxing in the lounge who both have influence nationally who came home and want to share their views and thoughts before they leave again. How they finish eachothers sentences and fill in words sounds like a bromance for a lifetime of knowledge. Like David and Jonathan in the holy scriptures. Good stuff ya'll.
@LeonardOost1980 Yeah, and who is he speaking to, you? Have you heard the expression 'God helps those who help themselves' Vote to get rid of the ANC Lets not waste any more time waiting for a holy rescue, it ain't gonna happen!!
Two of the most erudite & articulate minds South Africa has to offer. Thank you to the both of you for valiantly telling THE TRUTH. This conversation adds to the belief that there still is hope. ❤🙌🏾
Thanks guys......I loved this and seriously appreciate the time you took to discuss this at a "next level" other than the everyday pattern of thought that we are fed by the "captured media". Good on you guys! You've given me renewed HOPE and just wish that more sportsmen, actors, businessmen, community leaders would speak out as you do.
I just love these two gents, they are not scared to speak their minds (which are very open, realistic and direct) ... In all my time I have been following Mzalwane, for him to be asked a question and is silent for more than 15 sec IYOH, the anticipation of what he was going to say SHO, (one could hear the gears grinding in his head) and to true Vusi expectation when he opens his mind it blows you away ... Bottom line it who we put into positions of management that would steer this ship on a different course ...
This is one black man that i can listen to all day long, as black man myself. Im not stuck in stupid political hype, not at all. Thats just me, and im so glad that i dont wait for any politician to come with new words from his delusioned political dictionary to hype me. You go Vusi. Thanks Gareth for your imput and making this possible. ❤
Great interview!! Thanks for making it happen!!! I too am a entrepreneur with a few companies wondering and waiting for the magic to appear. Until then we bring hope. We all are broken , thats how we have let the light inside! Lovit thanks Vusi!
Vusi we need you, I m a white 74yr old lady and we need you. We can have a new appartheid: the good and the bad, no more colours. Someone with good intelligence and who takes no nonsense! We can make another Orania, for those who just want to take the good of our country. There are so many who are stil wating for the good new SA, but will never have it, it's getting stolen from them by a corrupt few..stand strong we need you....God bless you!!.
Vusi you a young clever man with a lot to offer this country. Please don't stop talking about this useless people running our country and breaking it down until there will be ..... left. It's sad but it is what it is this country is going down and at a very fast rate.
Its easy to criticize when you are setting on the spectators chair, if you think you are that leader the the cloves and get into the ring and after five year repeat what you said, and match that with what happened. Its difficult to be a leader in Afrika when you have the hand of the colonizer still at play behind the seen, you can criticize but think about it change the colonial system, you may have sanctions please the colonizer then revolt or coup d'état . What happened to Gaddaffi , Robert Mogabe, Chris Hani, and Samorah Marshel just to mention the few? think about it red pill or blue pill each have its own results. Vusi is dancing to the white music then the DJ will reward him, they pick the best and bring them within there circle and control and keep a close watch to them , the brain of this guy is good if he met Chris Hani and Mama Winnie today he will be the most hated black person by the white man
South africa 🇿🇦 Is The Only Country in the world where all races & Ethnic Groups can Live Together in Harmony. This Country as a a living Soul. Not even the USA can come close. Black leader should humble themselves and learn from the Afrikaaner how they lift their people out of poverty. This happened in this country less than 100years ago.
I've said it before, and I will say it again. Vusi for President!!!! Such a bright man! C'mon Vusi, you can save this beautiful country of ours. I admire you so much. Keep at it.
I am so dissapointed with Vusi, I thought he was smarter and understood that when they want you on their side, they tell you, you are better than the other blacks, that is what devide and conquer means, inviting you to their tables, " The only black at the dinner table" to talk about us and laugh at how ridiculous we are, any criticism you have on your own people, should be directed at them for the purpose of correction not ridiculing and shaming. He spoke about us not combing our hair, Vusi knows our hair grows like that out of our sculps, combing it is an attempt to straighten it, so that we will be invited to the table that wont accept us as we are, it damages our curls, hense now we have re- learned that our hair should be hand combed, which keeps the curls of our natural hair intact. This has been positive for us because, it says we no longer feel valid, only by being invited to their tables, even at the cost of denouncing our natural features, we want our own table, and that is a noble cause, and a step in the right directin towards self love. Everytime he wants to Illustrate that someone is stupid, he uses a black mans english accent and then he goes back to sounding white to illustrate a clever men, I dont even think he is aware of how obviously he comes accross as thinking less of black people. Chimamanda Ngozi Adichie Nigerian writer says " Every system of oppression, has people on the group of the oppressed to somehow contribute to that oppression.
Thanks Gareth for being a soul of light. From the days of seeing you at the old SABC booth when I did some interviews with Paul Mtirara to now - watching you grow and develop into a human who wants to add value and make a difference. You are doing it. You are appreciated. Vusi thanks for being courageous in speaking up and out. Continue gents to lead by example. People are watching and learning. ❤❤❤
Man im so glad I came across this episode. The number of times I kept thinking about turning it off and going to play fifa, but something kept me drawn to this conversation, lol. I thank God for blessing us with brilliant minds like you guys. Keep up the good work Gareth! Big ups man.
The first time I have ever commented on your channel... But could not let it go... Absolutely amazing interview, on both sides of the mike, I wish every person in SA could meaningfully hear it... You guys have both inspired me to reach further and do more for the future of our country... I too am going nowhere else, well said G... It is home I have had the privilege of travelling to many countries for months at a time.. I just love South Africa and it's people... Thank you so much. By the way Vusi you should really consider running for president, our at least head up a movement that will build that team of compitent people to build the vision for SA.
A wonderful hero of this country! I have listened to numerous talks Vusi, the country loves you! Very powerful, very true! Who cares? We know who we are, what we stand for and what we want! Blessings🕯🕯
Vusi is theeee MAN ,NOT ONE PARLIAMENTARY GUY WILL TAKE VUSI ON , HE TOO AVANCED ,EDUCATED & OUTSPOKEN TO BE CHALLENGED .THERE ARE POLITICIANS WHO DARE NOT TAKE ON VUSI CAUSE OF HIS INTERLECT .
Powerful conversation from these two great South Africans. Thing is we dont vote for an individual to lead us, we vote for a party which will vote for a leader "from them" to run the country. Question is, with all been said, which political party can take us to the promised land?
Simply brilliant... Encouraging in a way that speak a participatory calling to all South Africa who truly seek to work at seeing this Land thrive after this long winter day we are traversing.
The majority of people in South Africa, who carry the most votes, does not have a clue of what you just talked about. Most people just don't understand or care to listen. Keep up the good work.
Vusi and Cliff, we love you, we love your brains, passion and willingness to be here while you can be elsewhere, as part of the young generation of this country, we will continue the fight to fix this country from whatever is bound by from the past and present. We are here to stay, to live and strive, equally and fairly! It’s only a matter of time.
loved this conversation opened my eyes to much Vuzi Im a follower and have a annomous respect for you SA needs intelligent folks like you to be healed may God bless you always please run fot office
Wow this interview was super inspiring!🥳🏆 we love you both 💚Vusi and Gareth. 💛 maybe SA must hit rockbottom, possibly 2025? Only when the sick corrupt structures are demolished, only then can we start to rebuilt. Until then, we get ready, prepare ourselves but you cannot built on the rot. Must first remove it. It will hurt, but in the longterm thats the way forward. Maybe it happens differently, for now thats how i see it going. 🙏🌿
Thank you for your honesty Vusi. We as SA’ns cannot continue to led by the worse of us. I hope with the 2024 elections SA’ns will boot out the ANC with the objective to reboot our country. We need to love our children and country more that these self serving cadres who continue to shame us.
The clarity of this discussion, the precision of the arguments on realistic topics.... it's mind boggling!! Unfortunately this level of intelligence only breeds frustration in a country where mediocrity is applauded. Thank you gentlemen for confirming that I'm not insane.
Mind blowing, awesome first interview ive ever passionately and patiently listened ti from these two compariots and patriots. SA is richly blessed with such guys
The mere fact that Vusi does not have a political agenda but the ability to understand the direction which this country should be following. It would be interesting to see him debate Julius Malema to see how he deals with this character. South Africa needs to consider this young man for Presidency.
I’m always skeptical about hour long TH-cam videos but this one was worth every minute and I could have watched another hour. Gareth and Vusi you have both inspired me to keep working in my community doing what’s in my hands hoping that soon the fruit will show in South Africa!
Both of you want the best for the country like the rest us, I just wish you could maybe be in the advisory board of the presidency. Vusi for president 2024 😂 😂
Listen to that beautiful fluent English...well educated n smart people like Mr vusi should regroup with other smart people that are around n set up yourls party . We would vote yourl to b our government....another man of wise words ...god bless
As a young south african i fully understood what the coversation was about . It was about saving a country that one of a kind trying to create a better environment for it to thrive but the key factor is that the only way it can servive is by letting it either burn or start smoke until the alarms go of and looking at what happens when these action accure.
They say "careful what you wish for" In good faith, I tell you, this is one of those times! The depression that will haunt many of us when we realize the scope of the work needed to save Africa!
Great depth of thoughts, wisdom shared, I was inspired by the interview with Vusi. A true visionary, orator and industrialist of our lifetime. But it is a pitty he is despondent just like I am, lost epitite to drive change and performance. His right the first thing we as citizen can do Is to switch power, change leadership and give them a mandate to govern within, consequence to underperforming officials. No one should be entitled to a position if they fail to deliver, that's how a functional system should uphold.
"The best of us are led by the worst of us, who have then convinced the average, that the worst are the best"- Vusi Thembekwayo
Nami ngizwile lapho. I was really destroyed by that fact
Vusi is himself 'one of the worst'
Ey kodwa umuhle-ke Nozipho🥺
Haak 🔥🔥🔥🙌
Excellent. Two level headed legends who care deeply about this country. Amazing how this often comes with such resistance. Great conversation, thanks for making it happen.
Mr Kiff.
😂
Hi Mr Kiff it's great to see you still side 👋❤️
😂😂😂😂😂😂😂 you are that guy who replaced madiba's face on R100 with a monkey....neh?
Its easy to criticize when you are setting on the spectators chair, if you think you are that leader the the cloves and get into the ring and after five year repeat what you said, and match that with what happened. Its difficult to be a leader in Afrika when you have the hand of the colonizer still at play behind the seen, you can criticize but think about it change the colonial system, you may have sanctions please the colonizer then revolt or coup d'état . What happened to Gaddaffi , Robert Mogabe, Chris Hani, and Samorah Marshel just to mention the few? think about it red pill or blue pill each have its own results. Vusi is dancing to the white music then the DJ will reward him, they pick the best and bring them within there circle and control and keep a close watch to them , the brain of this guy is good if he met Chris Hani and Mama Winnie today he will be the most hated black person by the white man
I could listen to Vusi all day. He speaks sense and inspires in so many ways. He is a great example of what a leader should be like.
ABSOLUTELY
Ikrrrr❤
🙌💯👌This is Powerful
It's sooooo frustrating watching this, because a man like Vusi should be leading us.
President?Don't trust blacks.
No, Vusi should be one of the Government DTI advisors and they should implement some of his advice.
No, he should not be the president, he will not be able say what he thinks.
@@mabhadubhadunongombili1511Agreed. You just need to give this guy work! He's just made for transformation. DTI would be his playground!
Nope, I disagree, he can be a good adviser to leaders but not a political leader. Government requires patriotic, robust diplomatic and militantly smart person who will be able to take a stand against the explanation of country by imperialists.
Leading where?
Vusi does inspire. AND he gives hope. So much respect for this man
Vusi T. is correct. South Africans need a President who doesn't care whether you like me. SA needs a lot of solid recontraction. Two of them can rule. SA G can be a Vice President for Vusi😅 Or V. Can be a Vice President for G. Yes, The New party will be V&G Glory; both can do much better for South Africans. Yeah, keep speaking, Mr. Vusi. South African Government is sucked right now ppl hate to hear the truth. Look at Down Town JHB is that what Winnie Mandela was fighting for? Ahh, ANC brought Shameful to SA. Thank to Mr G for this powerful interview
Who else follows Vusi where ever he goes🎉🎉🎉 just gotta love him man❤
Always
The BEST of us are led by the WORST of us. What a profound statement.
Vusi, Cliff excellent talk show. Vusi is a very well and intelligent speaker including Gareth. Vusi is an excellent leader. But needs a major change. Our low and jobless people need to see and understand this. The problem is most of our low jobless income people don't get these messages. We need effective media communication without the ANC mafia blocking the media. People's eyes should be open to see where this government is heading. WAKE UP SOUTH AFRICA!!!!!!!!!!
But South Africa needs a major change!!!!
No matter how tough it gets please dont stop what you are both doing. You have no idea how much you breath oxygen into our future. You are both appreciated beyond measure.
EXACTLY 💯
💯 we agree.
Vusi is a real leader. If ANC had about 10 people like Vusi South Africa would be like Dubai or Singapore. Great show👌🏼
Or it would be paralyzed by long debates 😂like it is now😅
but that's exactly what EFF wants to make South Africa like. crime free within a year. Advancing our civilization. The only reason some middle class and some rich people fear in them is that they don't subscribe to the existing power structures that are remnants of apartheid spatialization ANC BEE. So, you've got apartheid apologists and BEE beneficiaries (both minorities) trying to protect what they have at the expense of everyone else.
@@sonofsowetothis point also, is very much valid
I felt a bit emotional when Gareth said he will not leave South Africa because it's home and he can make the most difference here. You can see Vusi is checked out and whether SA survives or not he has made plans to not only survive but thrive outside of the country but who can blame him. I think a lot of South Africans are idealists and don't want to abandon the ship because we believe in the incredible potential of this country but the truth is you have to be a realist like Vusi and start preparing and put your life jacket on because the ship is definitely sinking.
I have watched this interview/ discussion twice. These two gentlemen are top class. Vusi is phenomenal and we are so very lucky that Gareth is not leaving SA, he is right, he is definitely needed here. ❤ This is by far my favorite interview ❤
I also watched it twice lol
When you speak your truth, you are called a "clever black". It's a phrase coined for those that dare speak their minds. Continue speaking your truth, it's needed in SA and the world.
its like as blacks we must all conform and have a lifetime commitment to not be critical thinkers, basically stay dumb...and we allow daft pple to convince us of this sh!t🚮
Please run for the top job, Vusi we need you here.
"Let's look for the best among us, not who look like us" wow powerful words Vusi.
UNBELIEVABLE
Smh... Just sad! Anything to please the oppressor.
No need to get woke, we all want a working country, if your fellow black isn't doing that, there is absolutely no need to keep voting for him. You can't keep on voting for people who are not working just because you want to stay loyal to the color of your skin. @@FBA.TonYahu6704
Thank you, Gareth. Awesome interview with Vusi. There is so much content and insight that I was glued to every second of the interview.
This conversation needs to be on every South African television set. The thoughts and opinions expressed here are an example of what happens when competence is valued over popularity. Thanks Gareth for not shying away from the tough conversations, and thank you Vusi for being a shinning light. I hope the overall message of this conversation reaches as many people as possible!
Unfortunately it won't, main media stream don't value things like this
TOTALLY AGREE
Its easy to criticize when you are setting on the spectators chair, if you think you are that leader the the cloves and get into the ring and after five year repeat what you said, and match that with what happened. Its difficult to be a leader in Afrika when you have the hand of the colonizer still at play behind the seen, you can criticize but think about it change the colonial system, you may have sanctions please the colonizer then revolt or coup d'état . What happened to Gaddaffi , Robert Mogabe, Chris Hani, and Samorah Marshel just to mention the few? think about it red pill or blue pill each have its own results. Vusi is dancing to the white music then the DJ will reward him, they pick the best and bring them within there circle and control and keep a close watch to them , the brain of this guy is good if he met Chris Hani and Mama Winnie today he will be the most hated black person by the white man
Yessssss
Vusi is a powerhouse! ❤
This is one of best interviews ever conducted!!!
I have shared it with many of my friends.
Thank you Gareth , for bringing this man on your show.
Vusi , You should have been President of SA. Your terminology , problem solving , intellect , analysis and ideology is amazing. Not to mention , your calmness and humbleness. I think Vusi would be the greatest leader SA would have ever seen. I would be thrilled and happy to work under his supervision and leadership. Lord , please make this man president.
Vusi & Gareth spoke like two siblings relaxing in the lounge who both have influence nationally who came home and want to share their views and thoughts before they leave again. How they finish eachothers sentences and fill in words sounds like a bromance for a lifetime of knowledge. Like David and Jonathan in the holy scriptures. Good stuff ya'll.
Absolutely!!
In the end, God will have the final say over SA
Couldn’t have said it better 👊🏻🤩👏🙌🏻🙏😇
@@JeshuaOurGodThat's profound that's were we should fix our eye God has answers
@LeonardOost1980
Yeah, and who is he speaking to, you?
Have you heard the expression 'God helps those who help themselves'
Vote to get rid of the ANC
Lets not waste any more time waiting for a holy rescue, it ain't gonna happen!!
Two of the most erudite & articulate minds South Africa has to offer. Thank you to the both of you for valiantly telling THE TRUTH. This conversation adds to the belief that there still is hope. ❤🙌🏾
Sheesh, goosebumps, bro. You know when you watch the thing and you sort off know what the next minute is gonna be.... Did not happen here.
INDEED
Thanks guys......I loved this and seriously appreciate the time you took to discuss this at a "next level" other than the everyday pattern of thought that we are fed by the "captured media". Good on you guys! You've given me renewed HOPE and just wish that more sportsmen, actors, businessmen, community leaders would speak out as you do.
I just love these two gents, they are not scared to speak their minds (which are very open, realistic and direct) ... In all my time I have been following Mzalwane, for him to be asked a question and is silent for more than 15 sec IYOH, the anticipation of what he was going to say SHO, (one could hear the gears grinding in his head) and to true Vusi expectation when he opens his mind it blows you away ... Bottom line it who we put into positions of management that would steer this ship on a different course ...
Vusi for president. Thank you for this great interview
He would be slaughtered why would he waste what he has worked for to become a bulshitter.
Wow what a gent VUSI please sand for president,South Africa needs young men like you ,God bless you..
I'm a white South African ...
Vusi…. Please please please please please run for president!
This is one black man that i can listen to all day long, as black man myself. Im not stuck in stupid political hype, not at all. Thats just me, and im so glad that i dont wait for any politician to come with new words from his delusioned political dictionary to hype me. You go Vusi.
Thanks Gareth for your imput and making this possible. ❤
I absolutely love listening to Vusi
Great interview!! Thanks for making it happen!!!
I too am a entrepreneur with a few companies wondering and waiting for the magic to appear. Until then we bring hope. We all are broken , thats how we have let the light inside!
Lovit thanks Vusi!
When VT speaks I keep quite and only listen.
Me too
Vusi is really a inspiration!
Vusi we need you, I m a white 74yr old lady and we need you. We can have a new appartheid: the good and the bad, no more colours. Someone with good intelligence and who takes no nonsense! We can make another Orania, for those who just want to take the good of our country. There are so many who are stil wating for the good new SA, but will never have it, it's getting stolen from them by a corrupt few..stand strong we need you....God bless you!!.
Wow i never gave this Vusi guy a chance but i must say i am impressed. As for Gareth we all know him he is a straight talker and thinker
Vusi is just special guys...Love him or hate the guy is just special 🙂
Sooooo special. An honor and a privilege to listen to him
This man is impressive. Put Vusi in charge of SA, and it'll become a utopia.
Wow... Just wow!
The 5 Power points I've ever heard in one show. Man 👌
You two guys are the BEST.
Yes yes yes
One of the best interviews/conversations for the current climate of south africa.
Vusi you a young clever man with a lot to offer this country. Please don't stop talking about this useless people running our country and breaking it down until there will be ..... left. It's sad but it is what it is this country is going down and at a very fast rate.
This was one of the greatest podcasts in South African Pod cast history
Its easy to criticize when you are setting on the spectators chair, if you think you are that leader the the cloves and get into the ring and after five year repeat what you said, and match that with what happened. Its difficult to be a leader in Afrika when you have the hand of the colonizer still at play behind the seen, you can criticize but think about it change the colonial system, you may have sanctions please the colonizer then revolt or coup d'état . What happened to Gaddaffi , Robert Mogabe, Chris Hani, and Samorah Marshel just to mention the few? think about it red pill or blue pill each have its own results. Vusi is dancing to the white music then the DJ will reward him, they pick the best and bring them within there circle and control and keep a close watch to them , the brain of this guy is good if he met Chris Hani and Mama Winnie today he will be the most hated black person by the white man
Vusi for President. A phenominal leader and visionary with a contributor mindset. His book Magna Carta of exponentiality is true brilliance.
South africa 🇿🇦 Is The Only Country in the world where all races & Ethnic Groups can Live Together in Harmony. This Country as a a living Soul.
Not even the USA can come close.
Black leader should humble themselves and learn from the Afrikaaner how they lift their people out of poverty. This happened in this country less than 100years ago.
which poverty? genuine question
Which harmony are you talking about ?
It hit me hard when Gareth said "This is where I belong". This was such a thought provoking conversations.
Thank you, Gareth brilliant 👏 🙌 interview 👏 🙌 Thank you, Vusi.
Thank you, Gents, for the incredible sit down. Gareth, what an amazing closing 👏 gave me an ahuh moment Danko Broer
I've said it before, and I will say it again. Vusi for President!!!! Such a bright man! C'mon Vusi, you can save this beautiful country of ours. I admire you so much. Keep at it.
Vusi you amazing. thankyou Gareth for an awesome show again. This is home let's fix it ❤
Vusi is just something else. Great interview.
I am so dissapointed with Vusi, I thought he was smarter and understood that when they want you on their side, they tell you, you are better than the other blacks, that is what devide and conquer means, inviting you to their tables, " The only black at the dinner table" to talk about us and laugh at how ridiculous we are, any criticism you have on your own people, should be directed at them for the purpose of correction not ridiculing and shaming.
He spoke about us not combing our hair, Vusi knows our hair grows like that out of our sculps, combing it is an attempt to straighten it, so that we will be invited to the table that wont accept us as we are, it damages our curls, hense now we have re- learned that our hair should be hand combed, which keeps the curls of our natural hair intact. This has been positive for us because, it says we no longer feel valid, only by being invited to their tables, even at the cost of denouncing our natural features, we want our own table, and that is a noble cause, and a step in the right directin towards self love.
Everytime he wants to Illustrate that someone is stupid, he uses a black mans english accent and then he goes back to sounding white to illustrate a clever men, I dont even think he is aware of how obviously he comes accross as thinking less of black people.
Chimamanda Ngozi Adichie
Nigerian writer says " Every system of oppression, has people on the group of the oppressed to somehow contribute to that oppression.
Honestly I thought I was the only one who noticed what you are pointing out
Fantastic conversation! Agree with the suffocation of the Labour laws on our economy.
One of the best interviews
VUSI WHAT A GREAT BRAVE PATRIOT A TRUE EMBASSEDOR FOR SOUTH AFRICA
On CPT point, as a citizen, I am not so convinced. The reality on the ground is basically ordinary people being priced out of paradise
Thanks Gareth for being a soul of light. From the days of seeing you at the old SABC booth when I did some interviews with Paul Mtirara to now - watching you grow and develop into a human who wants to add value and make a difference. You are doing it. You are appreciated. Vusi thanks for being courageous in speaking up and out. Continue gents to lead by example. People are watching and learning. ❤❤❤
Man im so glad I came across this episode. The number of times I kept thinking about turning it off and going to play fifa, but something kept me drawn to this conversation, lol. I thank God for blessing us with brilliant minds like you guys. Keep up the good work Gareth! Big ups man.
Insightful, I thoroughly enjoyed thia conversation
I just love Vusi's face when he's listening to someone...he looks like a lion
The first time I have ever commented on your channel... But could not let it go... Absolutely amazing interview, on both sides of the mike, I wish every person in SA could meaningfully hear it... You guys have both inspired me to reach further and do more for the future of our country... I too am going nowhere else, well said G... It is home I have had the privilege of travelling to many countries for months at a time.. I just love South Africa and it's people... Thank you so much. By the way Vusi you should really consider running for president, our at least head up a movement that will build that team of compitent people to build the vision for SA.
Anna malemela thank you very much both of you guys be blessed
A wonderful hero of this country! I have listened to numerous talks Vusi, the country loves you!
Very powerful, very true!
Who cares? We know who we are, what we stand for and what we want!
Blessings🕯🕯
Always dope listening to Vusi. Loved how he said (Vusi) people just love to misunderstand Gareth.
Thank you Vusi, you're a real thinker. Honesty and Sincerity. Lead by Example. Judge by Results. Integrity. Vote for leaders who can think.
This was mind-blowing. Both your minds are incredible. We need more conversations like this.Thank you Vusi and Gareth
Wow this Vusi oke is super smart, what a relief! Great chat guys!
Vusi is theeee MAN ,NOT ONE PARLIAMENTARY GUY WILL TAKE VUSI ON , HE TOO AVANCED ,EDUCATED & OUTSPOKEN TO BE CHALLENGED .THERE ARE POLITICIANS WHO DARE NOT TAKE ON VUSI CAUSE OF HIS INTERLECT .
This was a great interview but i cant help feel like Vusi has given up on S.A.
Powerful conversation from these two great South Africans. Thing is we dont vote for an individual to lead us, we vote for a party which will vote for a leader "from them" to run the country. Question is, with all been said, which political party can take us to the promised land?
I find myself wanting to smash the like button every 30 seconds!!
I agree with the "waiting for the collapse" . Why would the capable even want to save the ANC's titanic. Let it sink and die.
Sheesh this has left me more grim about South Africa's prospects than the burning platform usually does
Simply brilliant... Encouraging in a way that speak a participatory calling to all South Africa who truly seek to work at seeing this Land thrive after this long winter day we are traversing.
The majority of people in South Africa, who carry the most votes, does not have a clue of what you just talked about. Most people just don't understand or care to listen. Keep up the good work.
Yay Vusi ❤
Vusi and Cliff, we love you, we love your brains, passion and willingness to be here while you can be elsewhere, as part of the young generation of this country, we will continue the fight to fix this country from whatever is bound by from the past and present. We are here to stay, to live and strive, equally and fairly!
It’s only a matter of time.
We need minds like you both to take this country forward, gives me hope. Thank you.
'...outside the tent and pissing in'🤣. Great conversation Gareth & Vusi.
loved this conversation opened my eyes to much
Vuzi Im a follower and have a annomous respect for you SA needs intelligent folks like you to be healed may God bless you always please run fot office
Thank you.....but the tears😢😢😢😢 just keep coming..
Wow this interview was super inspiring!🥳🏆 we love you both 💚Vusi and Gareth. 💛 maybe SA must hit rockbottom, possibly 2025? Only when the sick corrupt structures are demolished, only then can we start to rebuilt. Until then, we get ready, prepare ourselves but you cannot built on the rot. Must first remove it. It will hurt, but in the longterm thats the way forward. Maybe it happens differently, for now thats how i see it going. 🙏🌿
I just like listening to intelligence
I was at home affairs last week. Was great. In in out in 30 minutes
Beautiful conversation - thank you.
Thank you for your honesty Vusi. We as SA’ns cannot continue to led by the worse of us.
I hope with the 2024 elections SA’ns will boot out the ANC with the objective to reboot our country.
We need to love our children and country more that these self serving cadres who continue to shame us.
The clarity of this discussion, the precision of the arguments on realistic topics.... it's mind boggling!! Unfortunately this level of intelligence only breeds frustration in a country where mediocrity is applauded. Thank you gentlemen for confirming that I'm not insane.
Dis n man vir wie ek baie respek het. Dankie Vusi en dankie vir sulke goeie videos!
Mind blowing, awesome first interview ive ever passionately and patiently listened ti from these two compariots and patriots. SA is richly blessed with such guys
The mere fact that Vusi does not have a political agenda but the ability to understand the direction which this country should be following. It would be interesting to see him debate Julius Malema to see how he deals with this character. South Africa needs to consider this young man for Presidency.
Boy, what would I pay to see a debate of that caliber!
best conversation of 2023. thanks Gareth and Vusi
I’m always skeptical about hour long TH-cam videos but this one was worth every minute and I could have watched another hour. Gareth and Vusi you have both inspired me to keep working in my community doing what’s in my hands hoping that soon the fruit will show in South Africa!
Let's hear you pronounce vusi's last name before we believe you
@@sonofsoweto not sure I understand what you mean by this?
@megansmall6656 try saying Vusi's last name before you get the certificate
@@sonofsoweto hahahaha a certificate of completion for finishing the video and for concentrating enough to be able to say Vusi’s Surname after? 😂
Both of you want the best for the country like the rest us, I just wish you could maybe be in the advisory board of the presidency. Vusi for president 2024 😂 😂
What a beautiful interview....wow Guys👌👌👌
Listen to that beautiful fluent English...well educated n smart people like Mr vusi should regroup with other smart people that are around n set up yourls party . We would vote yourl to b our government....another man of wise words ...god bless
As a young south african i fully understood what the coversation was about . It was about saving a country that one of a kind trying to create a better environment for it to thrive but the key factor is that the only way it can servive is by letting it either burn or start smoke until the alarms go of and looking at what happens when these action accure.
Stay put Gareth you keep many of us informed and entertained...❤😊🎉
Gareth you deserve your flowers, your voice and input is very crucial for our society. Thank you for everything. Great interview! My favorite two
Gareth is not alone on the podcast! Racist you belongs bt the anc
Vusi is a very intelligent and articulate individual worth listening to
I wish I could lend Vusi's mind for a hour
😂me 2
They say "careful what you wish for"
In good faith, I tell you, this is one of those times!
The depression that will haunt many of us when we realize the scope of the work needed to save Africa!
Great depth of thoughts, wisdom shared, I was inspired by the interview with Vusi.
A true visionary, orator and industrialist of our lifetime.
But it is a pitty he is despondent just like I am, lost epitite to drive change and performance.
His right the first thing we as citizen can do Is to switch power, change leadership and give them a mandate to govern within, consequence to underperforming officials.
No one should be entitled to a position if they fail to deliver, that's how a functional system should uphold.
Interview I didn't know I desperately needed. Thank you so much Gareth much respect 🙏🏽
I have huge respect for you two, nice question at the end Vusi, I often wondered why you are still here, great answer Cliff