Not a weird take at all. Sienkiewicz is a master of his craft and can draw in almost any style from hyper realism to abstract. He’s objectively superior. On top of that he’s an awesome dude to meet in person. Saying Liefeld has an “unusual style” is like saying my wife’s burnt brownies are just an “unusual baking technique”.
He is only retiring from Marvel comics. This has been stated a lot. Robert continues to work on his own line of books. The most recent one is called the last blood about the end of his extreme characters. He’s also launching other books.
I think he was pretty clear, he's finished with Work- For -Hire projects. I vaguely remember hearing he had lost his own characters at some point but it was only a rumor, I never heard it from him anywhere! Well, I always liked his cartooning so I might check out those new stories!😊
On his podcasts recently he has elaborated a bit more. Age is catching up to him and after doing thousands of pages over his career, it has taken a toll on him. Of the original image 7, the others gave up consistent interior pages years / decades ago (bar Eric Larson - Savage Dragon). Rob promotes his work. If he believes it is his last Deadpool work, he is going to promote it as such. You've done a video talking about it, you are doing some free marketing for him.
After 33 years of giving us some of the wildest and most iconic comic book moments, he’s choosing to step back while he's still got the magic. Respect for knowing when to bow out on a high note rather than just keep going for the sake of it. This is how legends do it-leave ‘em wanting more! 🙌 Who else thinks Rob deserves a standing ovation for going out on top? #MicDrop #DeadpoolForever #RespectTheArt" .
He said it for attention. Why would you retire from a "job" that you can basically choose when and how much to work. Especially in a cool industry as comics.
He might be dealing with carpal tunnel in the wrist he uses to draw, can happen to anybody that keeps their hands and wrists very busy for prolonged periods of time. Even I dealt with that when I worked in a cubicle years ago, typing away like there's no tomorrow. He's made significant contributions to the comic book industry for decades, has nothing left to prove.
Deadpool is really in the mainstream right now so if he announces that it’s gonna get hit maybe some mainstream news play maybe wouldn’t buy that last issue buy it and promote his upcoming extreme studio program retired and not retiring
Even with all the problems with his style, I take him over any poser and hack who destroyed Marvel and DC in the past years. He loves comics, has a passion for the craft, and is always enthusiastic about his works. Also, comics are paying peanuts nowadays. He makes more money not working for Marvel than doing anything for them. Same for DC.
This is very misleading..the Deadpool team up will be his last with marvel..he's not throwing in the towel ..he's got his creator owned comic last blood issue 2 coming out this September along with other creator projects
Rob has never been the best businessman. He would've been much richer if he didn't pay his collaborators such ridiculous amounts of money (he famously paid Alan Moore $40,000 per issue for his Extreme work, which amounted to at least a couple of million dollars over 2 or 3 years).
Rob will continue to make comics well into the future, just not at Marvel. Regardless of how you feel about his style, he puts more energy and excitement into one issue than anyone else does in a full run. That's why his books still sell.
@@davidsamuelson2089 Deadpool: Bad and Badder Blood; sold out. Whatnot Bloodstrike: Sold out. Any numerous covers, Thundercats, X-Men 97, sold out. Listen to his podcast episode "While I was sucking."
Is he as great as many still in the game or have sadly passed no. But he gave us two iconic characters in marvel/comic history. So what if he can’t draw feet, he deserves to retire on his own terms.
Good for Rob. People gave him Sh!t over the feet thing...Jim Lee has not been great with feet either. Liefeld brought some new coo characters to the genre. Enjoy retirement Rob!
He did that a long time ago. He does a comic book every once in a while but I wouldn’t say he’s active. They didn’t seem to like him at DC. Major X didn’t do well. No one will pay his autograph rate. Hopefully he got paid for the DP movies. even though all the good things about the character were from other creators. He also announced this because he loves attention.
God I hope he does not do Thundar. That was one of my favorite characters. He will ruin it. Don’t like his artwork. I can’t believe he was still working!!! I won’t read anything he’s worked on.
Good riddance. Once he stops doing his Whatnot shows he won't be able to ban people for no reason. He is waaaaaaay too much of a hateful curmudgeon to be in the comic industry.
Liefeld was only decent for the first couple years of NM and that’s only because he was drawing “the Marvel way”. Much like all the other “extreme” artists of that era, once he tasted fame, he went full Liefeld.
Rob is on Whatnot almost every week. He is selling direct to customers for insane prices. I'd be surprised if he just walks away from that too. I saw him sign a book and crush it all up into a ball and it sold for insane money Maybe he just notices there is no incentive to work woth marvel when he can make thousands of dollars an hour on his own
I know nothing about Rob Liefeld's monetary status, but I think you're greatly overestimating his net worth. It's hard to know every creator's contract deals, but I don't believe that Marvel started giving residuals for characters created until after Image was founded and they were in a death spiral of talent that was vacating Marvel in the mid-90's. Could be wrong on that, but both Jim Starlin (notably creator of Thanos) and Ed Brubaker (writer of the Winter Soldier story arc) have talked to anyone that will listen about how poor the payments were from Disney despite their contributions to successful movies. Rob may have been able to cut out a side deal with Fox, but considering how stingy Fox was with the first Deadpool movie, that seems questionable. As for his Image work, while the money did flow in at the beginning of the Image days, the constant lateness of books as well as his own ego (and getting kicked our of the Image partnership) put a severe strain on finances. They did really well to begin with, but like most young adults, when sudden success fell upon Rob, there's a ton of stories out there that he (and Rob was not alone in this behavior) really lost focus and making large purchases while also letting his work habits suffer, causing books to ship months late which helped to accelerate the comic's implosion of the mid-90's. And due to partnerships (and needing funding) after he left Image, he's actually lost the publishing and ownership rights of a bunch of his creations (namely Youngblood - hence why his team-up with LooseCollector to create action figures has such heavy hitters as Cabbot from BloodStrike and BloodWulf). He also doesn't have any Tradepaperbacks of the comics he does still retain the rights to, so there's a pretty good chance that he hasn't been getting a ton of passive income from the characters he did create at Image/Extreme that he still owns the rights to (at current, I'd say the most valuable of the characters he still owns would be either Prophet or Avengelyne. If anything, I would figure that his current work with Marvel has mostly been about filling his bank account while re-introducing his name to the current audience, and if I had to hazard a guess, I'll bet he also has a piece or any characters he did create on this go-around (Major X). The reason he's finishing up his Marvel stuff is because he see's that he's got about 5 years left of work to get his finances in order. Working at Marvel will fill the bank account, but creating his publishing company and creating new characters/re-introducing characters he owns will increase the value of his IPs, and with any luck he'll be able to create something self-sustaning that will carry him into retirement, where he'll be able to get an artist to draw the comics he writes (or brings in writers as well, but again, all for characters he owns). To be completely clear, I could be wrong about absolutely everything in this post, but looking back at the studios he's run, the length of time he took off away from the business (mid-2000's to late 2010's, or at least was not at the forefront of the business), the fractured nature of the characters he created, his return to Marvel and subsequent decision to focus on characters he has control over, I think it's a pretty good guess. TLDR: Rob's net worth is likely overestimated, he has less ownership/publishing rights of characters that he created than some people think, and he's likely looking at his future retirement and trying to make as much hay (and as many IPs) as he can while the sun is shining.
Maybe he was butt-hurt by the "just feet" store front Easter egg in the new movie, or the constant "big chest" rips. Or none of that, the artistic bent can twist you any which way!
He is only retiring from Marvel comics. This has been stated a lot. Robert continues to work on his own line of books. The most recent one is called the last blood about the end of his extreme characters. He’s also launching other books.
Sienkiewicz and Liefeld shouldn't be compared in any way
they both had unusual styles?
Sienkiewicz can actually draw
Weird take. They are both legends of the comic industry. We don't need to tear someone down to build someone else up 🤷♂️
Not a weird take at all. Sienkiewicz is a master of his craft and can draw in almost any style from hyper realism to abstract. He’s objectively superior. On top of that he’s an awesome dude to meet in person.
Saying Liefeld has an “unusual style” is like saying my wife’s burnt brownies are just an “unusual baking technique”.
Unpopular opinion: the way comics look today with the modern coloring ruins them. Bring back the simplified early 90's look.
When I saw Liefeld in his Levi's commercial I thought he was the coolest dude
Good for him. He revived New Mutants back from the dead.
Title was an overstatement.
He's got that Deadpool money, He doesn't need to do comics, besides, I thought he already left years ago
Agreed.
I admit, I haven't bought a modern comic in years. Honestly, when was the last time he's put out ANY content other than tweets?
He is only retiring from Marvel comics. This has been stated a lot. Robert continues to work on his own line of books. The most recent one is called the last blood about the end of his extreme characters. He’s also launching other books.
I think he was pretty clear, he's finished with Work- For -Hire projects. I vaguely remember hearing he had lost his own characters at some point but it was only a rumor, I never heard it from him anywhere! Well, I always liked his cartooning so I might check out those new stories!😊
Yeah he lost Youngblood but wanted to go back to Prophet
As an older person I can tell you repetitive motion will take its toll on you probably why the last issue of an artist career are probably there worst
It couldn’t t have come soon enough. Should’ve been decades ago.
On his podcasts recently he has elaborated a bit more. Age is catching up to him and after doing thousands of pages over his career, it has taken a toll on him. Of the original image 7, the others gave up consistent interior pages years / decades ago (bar Eric Larson - Savage Dragon). Rob promotes his work. If he believes it is his last Deadpool work, he is going to promote it as such. You've done a video talking about it, you are doing some free marketing for him.
Rough note to depart on. Those Deadpool Team Up covers are absolutely horrendous
After 33 years of giving us some of the wildest and most iconic comic book moments, he’s choosing to step back while he's still got the magic. Respect for knowing when to bow out on a high note rather than just keep going for the sake of it. This is how legends do it-leave ‘em wanting more! 🙌 Who else thinks Rob deserves a standing ovation for going out on top? #MicDrop #DeadpoolForever #RespectTheArt" .
He loved comics and did amazing work. Sad to see him go.
Rob Liefeld was cooked years ago
He left his mark you can't deny that but cool.Romita Jr please follow him out of the exit door.please.Frank Miller too.
So in other words trying to milk the comic 😂 create some buzz for a book that would have been MEH at best
He said it for attention. Why would you retire from a "job" that you can basically choose when and how much to work. Especially in a cool industry as comics.
He might be dealing with carpal tunnel in the wrist he uses to draw, can happen to anybody that keeps their hands and wrists very busy for prolonged periods of time. Even I dealt with that when I worked in a cubicle years ago, typing away like there's no tomorrow. He's made significant contributions to the comic book industry for decades, has nothing left to prove.
Deadpool is really in the mainstream right now so if he announces that it’s gonna get hit maybe some mainstream news play maybe wouldn’t buy that last issue buy it and promote his upcoming extreme studio program retired and not retiring
Sounds like some ROCK GROUPS. We have retired and when offered more well you know maybe I can do more. Just hip right now. You wait.
Even with all the problems with his style, I take him over any poser and hack who destroyed Marvel and DC in the past years. He loves comics, has a passion for the craft, and is always enthusiastic about his works. Also, comics are paying peanuts nowadays. He makes more money not working for Marvel than doing anything for them. Same for DC.
You call out Eastman for that dumb tank but ignore Toddy for those worthless HR baseballs that led him to chapter 11.
The infamous Cap chest and feet....
There's a saying that goes, runners never quit, quitters never run.
Curious for your thoughts on how this will affect the market- previous and upcoming books
This is very misleading..the Deadpool team up will be his last with marvel..he's not throwing in the towel ..he's got his creator owned comic last blood issue 2 coming out this September along with other creator projects
Wiki says he's only worth $2 million. That doesn't seem like much for what he's done in the biz.
Rob has never been the best businessman. He would've been much richer if he didn't pay his collaborators such ridiculous amounts of money (he famously paid Alan Moore $40,000 per issue for his Extreme work, which amounted to at least a couple of million dollars over 2 or 3 years).
Unlimited lawsuits , he probably lost them all too .
Liefeld is clearly in cognitive decline.
The page rates are so low at Marvel It's not worth his time. He might as well just do his own creator stuff.
THANK GOD!
Good stuff as always David!
Sienkiewicz is pronounced "sin kev ich".........i think 😂
I think we should all be celebrating 😂
How so?
@@HeySpanky I found him to be the single worst marvel artist of all time
Where can I buy your comics?
@@Chrishansen01 what are you looking for
He said he’d retire once he figures out how to draw feet. Maybe he’s getting close… 🤔
Maybe his hands hurt
I know his art makes my eyes hurt.
When I hear about Rob and Deadpool, I cringe because Deadpool is an outright copy of Deathstroke, the creation of the great George Perez. RIP.
I'll believe it when I see it
The end of an error....
Even Jim Steranko eventually went downhill... Paul Gulacy too.
Cancer diagnosis or terminal diagnosis is my guess.
Click bait wins
Rob will continue to make comics well into the future, just not at Marvel. Regardless of how you feel about his style, he puts more energy and excitement into one issue than anyone else does in a full run. That's why his books still sell.
When was the last time anything he did sold?
@@davidsamuelson2089 Deadpool: Bad and Badder Blood; sold out. Whatnot Bloodstrike: Sold out. Any numerous covers, Thundercats, X-Men 97, sold out. Listen to his podcast episode "While I was sucking."
Was offered journey into mystery 83, cgc 5.0, ow-w Pages. Cost $9k. Any thoughts, any one?
Cause he makes more money selling his auto😂on whatnot
Think he has a whatnot channel you can ask him questions there
Only if he doesn’t get his feelings hurt and ban you. 😂😂
I go on his whatnot all the time, he's nuts! 😅
my opinion he couldn't get any worse from when he started.
Because he is selling his art of Deadpool for ungodly amounts.
Is he as great as many still in the game or have sadly passed no. But he gave us two iconic characters in marvel/comic history. So what if he can’t draw feet, he deserves to retire on his own terms.
I've always felt the same....there are many artists I personally consider much worse than Rob.
The dude lies more than a rug
Romita Jr should be next up. Wow that guy draws like a 6 yr old working with his non-drawing hand.
Good for Rob. People gave him Sh!t over the feet thing...Jim Lee has not been great with feet either. Liefeld brought some new coo characters to the genre. Enjoy retirement Rob!
He did that a long time ago. He does a comic book every once in a while but I wouldn’t say he’s active. They didn’t seem to like him at DC. Major X didn’t do well. No one will pay his autograph rate. Hopefully he got paid for the DP movies. even though all the good things about the character were from other creators. He also announced this because he loves attention.
He sells tons on whatnot.
God I hope he does not do Thundar. That was one of my favorite characters. He will ruin it. Don’t like his artwork. I can’t believe he was still working!!! I won’t read anything he’s worked on.
Leifeld is a drama magnet.
With the current state of the mainstream modern industry, I don't blame Rob one bit.
He was cocky and rude to a lot of his fans. Hope he stays retired
Good riddance. Once he stops doing his Whatnot shows he won't be able to ban people for no reason. He is waaaaaaay too much of a hateful curmudgeon to be in the comic industry.
He's a drama queen.
I think he quit once or twice already
He sees Jim Lee getting 20k per sketch comp and is salivating at the thought of doing the same. 😂
Liefeld was only decent for the first couple years of NM and that’s only because he was drawing “the Marvel way”. Much like all the other “extreme” artists of that era, once he tasted fame, he went full Liefeld.
What a great thumbnail.🙄
Rob is on Whatnot almost every week. He is selling direct to customers for insane prices. I'd be surprised if he just walks away from that too. I saw him sign a book and crush it all up into a ball and it sold for insane money
Maybe he just notices there is no incentive to work woth marvel when he can make thousands of dollars an hour on his own
I know nothing about Rob Liefeld's monetary status, but I think you're greatly overestimating his net worth. It's hard to know every creator's contract deals, but I don't believe that Marvel started giving residuals for characters created until after Image was founded and they were in a death spiral of talent that was vacating Marvel in the mid-90's. Could be wrong on that, but both Jim Starlin (notably creator of Thanos) and Ed Brubaker (writer of the Winter Soldier story arc) have talked to anyone that will listen about how poor the payments were from Disney despite their contributions to successful movies. Rob may have been able to cut out a side deal with Fox, but considering how stingy Fox was with the first Deadpool movie, that seems questionable.
As for his Image work, while the money did flow in at the beginning of the Image days, the constant lateness of books as well as his own ego (and getting kicked our of the Image partnership) put a severe strain on finances. They did really well to begin with, but like most young adults, when sudden success fell upon Rob, there's a ton of stories out there that he (and Rob was not alone in this behavior) really lost focus and making large purchases while also letting his work habits suffer, causing books to ship months late which helped to accelerate the comic's implosion of the mid-90's. And due to partnerships (and needing funding) after he left Image, he's actually lost the publishing and ownership rights of a bunch of his creations (namely Youngblood - hence why his team-up with LooseCollector to create action figures has such heavy hitters as Cabbot from BloodStrike and BloodWulf). He also doesn't have any Tradepaperbacks of the comics he does still retain the rights to, so there's a pretty good chance that he hasn't been getting a ton of passive income from the characters he did create at Image/Extreme that he still owns the rights to (at current, I'd say the most valuable of the characters he still owns would be either Prophet or Avengelyne.
If anything, I would figure that his current work with Marvel has mostly been about filling his bank account while re-introducing his name to the current audience, and if I had to hazard a guess, I'll bet he also has a piece or any characters he did create on this go-around (Major X). The reason he's finishing up his Marvel stuff is because he see's that he's got about 5 years left of work to get his finances in order. Working at Marvel will fill the bank account, but creating his publishing company and creating new characters/re-introducing characters he owns will increase the value of his IPs, and with any luck he'll be able to create something self-sustaning that will carry him into retirement, where he'll be able to get an artist to draw the comics he writes (or brings in writers as well, but again, all for characters he owns).
To be completely clear, I could be wrong about absolutely everything in this post, but looking back at the studios he's run, the length of time he took off away from the business (mid-2000's to late 2010's, or at least was not at the forefront of the business), the fractured nature of the characters he created, his return to Marvel and subsequent decision to focus on characters he has control over, I think it's a pretty good guess.
TLDR: Rob's net worth is likely overestimated, he has less ownership/publishing rights of characters that he created than some people think, and he's likely looking at his future retirement and trying to make as much hay (and as many IPs) as he can while the sun is shining.
He partially created Deadpool - it was never all him. Another Stan Lee taking credit for everything & doing almost nothing.
On whatnot he rants and rants... this is all ego and just for attention
No, you got it, "Bill Skinskevitch".
SIN-kevitch.
Sin Kev Itch
Maybe he was butt-hurt by the "just feet" store front Easter egg in the new movie, or the constant "big chest" rips. Or none of that, the artistic bent can twist you any which way!
He had to sign off on the foot store and thought it was hilarious. He's also taken pics making fun of the cap chest dozens of times. He's funny af.
I mean really the guy who can’t draw feet is leaving? Never really been a fan.
If he does have an illness, it's kind of none of your business, man.
Fake News 📰
WHO CARES🙄
Can't stand his art.
If only Kathleen Kennedy, Brie Larson, hemland, Tatiana, Ziegler, all retired too 😂😂😂😂
He is only retiring from Marvel comics. This has been stated a lot. Robert continues to work on his own line of books. The most recent one is called the last blood about the end of his extreme characters. He’s also launching other books.