smash tournaments should change the rules to where the opponent who first passes the blast zones loses because the animation shouldnt count obviously, that player is already dead.... smash community shoukd fix this. k9 won man he got the last hit
Everyone can agree to this: If you're Techei, you'd be on top of the world at the end result. If you're K9, you'd be agitated at that amount of spaghetti.
But still, Sheik angles her leg up during the kick, and this honestly isn't the first time I've seen Greninja's Utilt pull off some wonky shitbox porn.
SynysterDawn Greninja's up-tilt does have a big reach upwards, though. Check where the hit special effect pops up. In any case, hitboxes are going to seem wonky if they hit a long limb like Sheik's leg during bair, because the hit character immediately goes to hitstun animation.
+Ash Ketchup clearly he was just sleeping on techei after bodying him game 2. Then he messed up game 3. It was his fault for playing poorly, don't blame jetlag...
''My girlfriend is being treated in the E.R . The doctors say she'll be fine, but shes still scared . So i'm going to be there for her'' ''HAhA no johns noob''
Damn. I think that if he had done a bouncing fish and then vanished, he would've won. But to do so in such little time after the up-air requires fast reflexes.
+M Nope, you shouldn't throw out risky ballsy moves that would get you killed. Star KOs and Screen KOs punish that. It's not RNG. It's not random. It's apart of the game. Adapt and just deal with it. Screen and Star KOs are not as bad as what you're trying to make it out to be. 98% of the time when those KOs happen no jank happens.
A S H L E Y Unless you're telling me you can force a blast-off animation 100% of the time, its RNG. techi hit the blastzone first, which mean K9's ''risky ballsy'' moves payoff. k9 just lost because a RNG animation.
M Nope. You'll only get that top of the blast zone kill if the attack is strong. It's the upper blast zone line this time. It is not RNG. It was purposely designed in the game and you can't do anything about it. Just accept it.
This has always been a controversy. Yes, K9 barely outplayed him but it's also his fault for delaying his recovery. Like if a Puff rests offstage for the game, but it's a star KO and the Puff dies first, their fault. I think it's fair.
Thing is, how you'd do it otherwise? When do we count the Star KO as an actual KO ? When the little off-screen-cursor disappears? That's the earliest you can pick without letting blatant SD's turn into wins on Star KO's, which would be just as unfair. That would have been fine here probably, but if K9 hit the blastzone immediately after the cursor disappeared, it would be difficult to determine the winner. You'd have to at the very last watch a replay, and count seconds. And that's assuming the community actually manages to reach a consensus on the When. Even then, it's still kinda ambigous, due to blastzones or hurtboxes being different on some stages/characters. In any case, you'd have a third party decide the result, and you don't want drama or debates about who's actually won in the middle of a tourney, so that decision has to be final regardless of whether it's right or not. This would have certainly favored K9 here - but it might screw over someone else unfairly at some other point. It'd be the same issue we have here, only with a higher chance of drama. Better blame the game than people.
Xan1m I understand what you're trying to say, but my point is that K9 killed Techei, THEN died, so K9 won. But for some reason, just because an animation occurs by RNG, the kill doesn't count for another 3 seconds? That can cost people SETS, like shown here.
Greninja saved his luck for this match instead of the Kalos League :^/
Lol xD
It was just as close too
I hate Pokemon anime writers
Smash is better anyways
A S H L E Y Smash doesn't have an anime tho
(BUT THAT WOULD BE AWESOME)
I thought for sure K9 was going to rage. Good on him for being a good sport
I know eh!? Shit. What a good sport, considering. I'm sure it's due to him reaslising he won the fight, not the position in the tournament. You know?
+Cody Hall but he lost tho
True, yea. But I feel he made a statement at least
+Joseph Franc ^
at least hes trying.
K9 didnt want to be on the next "best salty moment ssb wii u" compilation
Jesus CHRIST that set!
It was absolutely phenomenal.
Props to both players.
What???
And dat boi can't win the Kalos League, but he can do this?
7:03 nice hitbox on that utilt
bair
6:57 actually.
This breaks my heart. I get such MIXED emotions when that spaghetti happens
11:45 that guy with the orange shirt is exactly how I reacted
smash tournaments should change the rules to where the opponent who first passes the blast zones loses because the animation shouldnt count obviously, that player is already dead.... smash community shoukd fix this. k9 won man he got the last hit
Nah, I like it the way it is. Makes it more hype.
Everyone can agree to this:
If you're Techei, you'd be on top of the world at the end result.
If you're K9, you'd be agitated at that amount of spaghetti.
this is possibly the craziest set I've seen in a while
Why couldn't this happen at the Kalos League?
Wish I could take part in a tournament like this XD
So that's why they call him Techei
Yo can someone give me a link to buy that shirt techi was wearing
DAMN THE ENDING THO
By far craziest ending to a game I've ever seen
This entire set I was like why is this set of the week? right up until that last stock, I thought that upair was it for techei lol
Sheik's the better Greninja? Nah, Greninja is the better Sheik.
Better nerf him lol
How was that not sudden death?
I wish this happened at the Kalos League.
I saw this on stream and it was hype beyond words
glad to see techei gettin better. a win is a win, no matter how you get it
That last round ending was intense
the teching gods have shined on techei and gave him the star ko ftw
Insuring your own safety after an all in off stage bet is apart of the game. Great set, too bad for K9 there LOL.
Do you think k9 could have staled with bouncing fish the did up B to win?
Who is the best ninja
whoaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa
your avatar fits everyone's reaction, lol
does k9 always play top tier??
The fuck is that Utilt hitbox at 7:00?
I think Sheik did a bair, and Greninja hit her leg.
But still, Sheik angles her leg up during the kick, and this honestly isn't the first time I've seen Greninja's Utilt pull off some wonky shitbox porn.
SynysterDawn Greninja's up-tilt does have a big reach upwards, though. Check where the hit special effect pops up.
In any case, hitboxes are going to seem wonky if they hit a long limb like Sheik's leg during bair, because the hit character immediately goes to hitstun animation.
K9 better do some crazy shit
I saw that coming from deep if youve seen any smash compilation you know death to star KO is a possibility.
Wow K9 didn't explode like usual. I feel like he's saving it all in for later.
I'd like to see Greninja dittos between Techei and iStudying
Sakurai why
Out of all the things that's made K9 salty, this didnt do anything. I'm shocked
instead of breaking the wall he broke inside
techei is always in the match of the week.
Who eliminated K9 though cause I thought this only sent him to losers
bump
Dexter eliminated K9 that night with Roy, match happened off stream.
+Onaje Jones damn that would have been ideal to watch on stream for the Roy Sheik matchup
this is the name brand vs great value set
Damn son that shit came hella close. Props to both players.
RIP Bruce
Surprised he wasn't more salty than the ocean on that one.
I hate it when commentators throw out johns for the players that just lost. Please stop.
"oh yeah, traveling really takes a toll on players"
like seriously?
Say it before game 1 ends in a loss.
+Roman 3MP1R3 but it does... Some johns aren't actually johns
+Ash Ketchup clearly he was just sleeping on techei after bodying him game 2. Then he messed up game 3. It was his fault for playing poorly, don't blame jetlag...
''My girlfriend is being treated in the E.R . The doctors say she'll be fine, but shes still scared . So i'm going to be there for her''
''HAhA no johns noob''
oh my god at that ending
Still not Serge vs Darkfall.
Damn. I think that if he had done a bouncing fish and then vanished, he would've won. But to do so in such little time after the up-air requires fast reflexes.
That match and finish, though!
Yo for real K9, kudos to ya for taking shit in stride nowadays.
Dude I'd cry
Techei is not even close to iStudying or alias level
Wario BikeFromNike So What, m8? It’s not something to take that seriously.
Oh my goodness.
good for techei , but he would have won a bit earlier if he had waited a bit longer in the up smash to punish the airdodge
The match was this close 👌
We take those
Bro...what a fucking set!
That was the set of 2016 lmao
I LITERALLY FUCKING SCREAMED
why are the annocers making excuses for k9
He lost because of RNG?
+M Nope, you shouldn't throw out risky ballsy moves that would get you killed. Star KOs and Screen KOs punish that. It's not RNG. It's not random. It's apart of the game. Adapt and just deal with it. Screen and Star KOs are not as bad as what you're trying to make it out to be. 98% of the time when those KOs happen no jank happens.
A S H L E Y
Unless you're telling me you can force a blast-off animation 100% of the time, its RNG.
techi hit the blastzone first, which mean K9's ''risky ballsy'' moves payoff. k9 just lost because a RNG animation.
M Nope. You'll only get that top of the blast zone kill if the attack is strong. It's the upper blast zone line this time. It is not RNG. It was purposely designed in the game and you can't do anything about it. Just accept it.
A S H L E Y
I've tested this already with 999% and koing off the top . It was pretty much random lol
Oh my, think I need to lie down after that sey
set*
just wow k9 be a good sport i would flip my s
I'm surprised K9 didn't get salty af after that bullshet
this stuff has happened way too many times to be mad about it. its a part of the game. just get over it.
If I was K9 the salt would be so strong lol
Didnt get to see a k9 pop off
No one pops off from their own sd.
it got so real 😱
Holy shit this match was crazy!
GrSmash pls
GRSMASH!?
ninja battle. finally
I gasped so loud......
Techei is really tall...
Ib4 on GR smash
I felt so salty for k9 when I first saw this lol
Thank god for star KOs, amiright?
amirite*
Techei ur my favorite :D
Press 1
Cheese
this dude had no reason to pop off a undeserved win lol
wow great 1
woah
Anyone else came to see K9 Rage?
wow
HOLY SHIT
WHAT THE FUCK!!!!!!!!!!!?????????
Uhg that's the worst man
Lit
Beter nerf greninja
At least he can go to loosers
el negro ese es poser y cuando pierde hace mañas xd
lmfao
Gooood, what a mistake! D:! xDD
:O omgggggggggggggggg
K9 won. Simple as that.
Who came up with the idea that the stock shouldn't be counted out until the animation finishes in a Star KO?!
yea that was horse
This has always been a controversy. Yes, K9 barely outplayed him but it's also his fault for delaying his recovery. Like if a Puff rests offstage for the game, but it's a star KO and the Puff dies first, their fault. I think it's fair.
Thing is, how you'd do it otherwise? When do we count the Star KO as an actual KO ? When the little off-screen-cursor disappears? That's the earliest you can pick without letting blatant SD's turn into wins on Star KO's, which would be just as unfair.
That would have been fine here probably, but if K9 hit the blastzone immediately after the cursor disappeared, it would be difficult to determine the winner. You'd have to at the very last watch a replay, and count seconds. And that's assuming the community actually manages to reach a consensus on the When. Even then, it's still kinda ambigous, due to blastzones or hurtboxes being different on some stages/characters. In any case, you'd have a third party decide the result, and you don't want drama or debates about who's actually won in the middle of a tourney, so that decision has to be final regardless of whether it's right or not. This would have certainly favored K9 here - but it might screw over someone else unfairly at some other point. It'd be the same issue we have here, only with a higher chance of drama. Better blame the game than people.
Xan1m I understand what you're trying to say, but my point is that K9 killed Techei, THEN died, so K9 won.
But for some reason, just because an animation occurs by RNG, the kill doesn't count for another 3 seconds? That can cost people SETS, like shown here.
+Eddie The Internet Pacifist Winner is decided by results screen. No exceptions. That's just how it's been since the beginning of Smash.
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