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If League guide sites use words like suck, if streamers and worlds commentators act same, if challenger coaches like Hector disrespect low elo players, I am not suprised this whole game is most toxic place to be in when gaming.
And I must say this too. 50% of your advises does not work, because its low elo. You are talking from challenger game perspective, not low elo, like gold, because low elo mostly is just random fights and no roamings, vision control, etc. Those are good, but not great advices. Mostly they help a lot, but often very useless, when teams just randomly walk around map with no vision or play aram after laning phase.
When you say play around strong players tpu’re forgetting one thing. My 0/9 botlane in 10th minute will ping me to death to come and gank even though the lane is warded and we will probably lose a 3v2 because of their 7/0 draven. Then when i don’t do that for obvious reasons they will question mark ping me every time they die and then write jg diff for no drakes, even though we had no botlane prior the whole game. This is how low elo works...
nah, thats not true, occasionally there will be nothing you can do really, but what you can do is be positive, mute them entirely, politely tell them to stand back and play safe under their turret, play around your winning or not losing crazy hard lanes, make sure you actually get your farm right and do what you can do right, instead of complaining about your low elo shitty teammates. I am silver myself, for now, but I´ve learned alot and it works. I just recently had a game where I got invaded by their whole team and Ekko took my red, I even died, then my mid just didnt pay attention and died while Ekko was coming out of our jungle at lvl 2, continued to gank and got kills ... etc. my team was tilting, but I remained calm, took my farm, ganked only when it was favourable and safe. at lvl 7 I was 16 CS and 2 levels ahead of Ekko and even though I was Zac, and not a carry jungler, that made a huge difference. I actually invaded him and killed him on his blue, cause I had ult and he didnt ... thing is the old me wouldve given up on the game right after Ekko got that double assist at lvl 3 botlane. old me wouldve tried to power gank my lanes back into the game and just failed miserably. instead I learned from my mistakes and took whatever ressources I could from my jungle, his jungle, the lanes and it paid off in the end. you´d be surprised how hard you can "come back" from a game that looks totally dire, and I say "come back" like this because in actuallity I have never been really behind in that game, it just felt like I was massively behind, but I wasnt, and realizing that is huge. never listen to your laners, they usually dont know what they´re doing, they dont have the map awareness that you have and they simply want you to help them win their lanes, no matter what.
I've literally just had a game where this happened. I continued to play around our winning mid and eventually wrote him to come with me to bot because enemy ezreal is fed. Since we already secured mid prio and I was more fed than enemy jungler, we had very little to fear. We killed bot, shutdown gold, tilting enemy, easy win. Obviously doesn't work all the time, but surprisingly often does. Mid prio is insane if you can secure it. What is important: don't try to gank them by youself, 2v3 is not that hard to win, and if enemy jungler is there you just donated 3 free kills.
@@vladislavchudak6160 Also if he used the vison/sweeper right he could have landed a W cause he didnt even check wolves with it, he walked forward and got spotted XD so he misses the drop on lee, missed skills and canceled 4 autos. what a play.
I feel most of what is stated in this video applies to most roles and most players. Take ADC for example: you want to play around your own carry potential while sticking with strong teammates to help you. You would want to avoid even teamfights with ADC but if one breaks out, you have to help in order to win. Same for supports: a Blitzcrank is not very useful himself but is very useful when he gets a pick with a team by his side. His quirk is that he can make a teamfight unfair for the enemy with a single grab. Your guide clearly explains these concepts which is very nice! Keep it up!
When you take your time like this, your team starts pinging you, flaming you and dying unnecessarily trying to defend a dragon that wouldn't matter anyways, and then flaming you again for not "being there". Best advice for junglers: mute them all and do your thing.
Dude just pick a hero that make get kill to even an imbecile like sejuani or nunu and choose a lane to gank that dominate the game like renekton or zed and congrulations! Lay on your back and enjoy ur free win.
I want to thank your jungler guides since it helped me dig myself out of Silver II 50% WR to Plat I 63% win rate, I know it's not much of a climb but I wouldn't have been able to do it without your videos.
"Vision is secured by support".... supports in my ranked game be like: "Lol support item? Do you even know how Lux support works? Check my history I am going with darkseil!!"
Yeah, the most annoying thing every is seeing a Support with an upgraded ward item...and the lowest vision on the team because they haven't set a ward since a level one trinket before jungle spawn.
What you are forgetting.... if you ignore the 0/4 bot lane to help lanes that are winning that adc will rq. You can't use challenger strategies when your working with children. You have to coddle them otherwise they will just leave or try to lose because the jg didn't help them. Just had a game where a top yi....went 0/10 in 17mins with no ganks from either team. After he lost FB he just ran straight at the top tower and flamed jg.
Having watched a lot of content from this channel. I think you guys should create more content on the idea of pushing mid to get priority. It doesn't seem to be emphasised enough when compared to how often you guys say "even team fights are a coin flip". Regardless of that, I think these kinds of videos asking questions to make the audience think, is good content.
I wish so much that more people had watched your vids and used that knowledge in game. So tiresome when teammates spawn and just autopath mid and start fighting once they see own adc catching side lane farm and 5 enemy champs in front of them
main thing about carrying on low elo is understanding that people would rather prefer farming if there is something to farm, in this situation you could easily go drake urself after making sure there is no wards nearby, and if is not then go for a gank to get a prio.
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Didn't watch this yet but I know my issue in jungle is either 1) I go a hard-carry jungler (like Evelynn) and I'm not good enough to 1v5 or 2) I go jungler that helps me laners get fed (like Poppy) and then they blow their lead. Whenever I play jungle, I always feel that when I invest fully in my self, I can't 1v9. When I invest in my laners, they blow their leads and/or can't 1v9. I was Diana jg, Irelia V Camille top lane. Got Irelia a 1-0-1 lead, then she became 1-4-1 and Camille became 4-1-0. I was Kindred jg, Garen V Darius top lane. Got my Garen a 4-0-1 lead against a 0-4-0 Darius, but that 9-0-8 Jinx on the enemy team fucked us. I just never feel I can sway the output of the game from Jungle. I have a 100% winrate in support and mid in ranked (Bronze 1 getting queued with and against Silver 3's). 0% winrate in Jungle and Top. Top is just because I'm bad at 1v1ing in top lane, I don't know the champs well enough :< Edit: Mission one is impossible when all lanes are feeding ;-;
skill capped ignore how ekko canceled his auto like 3 times and completely missed his q and didn't even both with the w, then proceeded to walk around taking honey fruit at full hp. Trying to go for lee was fine, the execution was a disaster. Katarina should have just left afterwards but got baited.
I mean the thing is that macro is generally more important than micro for climbing. A challenger could first time a champion and probably still win in a gold game.
@@Juslin7989 bruh. challengers could play a troll pick and win in gold, they are just better at the game. The point I'm making is that they criticize his macro decision but ignore how he completely fails his invade. Sure, macro is more important overall, but you need at least enough micro TO USE YOUR ABILITIES AND NOT CANCEL ALL YOUR AUTOS
@@pokopo1859 Yeah, and what are they going to tell you? Don't cancel your autos and miss your abilities? That's common sense that even iron players know.
This video was just amazing, thank you skill capped. It talked about something that is really interesting with a summary at the end to remember it afterwards. i don't comment munch on youtube, but this time i felt like you really deserved it. Thank you!
Most important thing to focus on if you want to climb is mechanics. Doesn't matter if you make the correct decisions all game if you lack the mechanics to execute on them. Most of the games I lose are from mechanical misplays off an otherwise good play. For instance, if Ekko had better mechanics, he would've killed Lee and gotten out easily, and then he could've secured herald uncontested, or gone for a dive on mid lane. Killing them enemy jungler gives you such a huge advantage over them. Going for the lee was the correct play, but it was poorly executed. Also I'm surprised you didn't mention that Ekko shouldn't have been the one clearing that pink ward in dragon pit, it should've been one of his ranged teammates. That's a very common ward, and it should almost always be cleared by a ranged champ.
Need advice (newbie junker playing only Olaf): bot lane have two champions and don't need help; top and mid lane tell everyone to back off. How do I gank or push lanes if everyone is not wanting help? How do I gank but not kill steal enemy champs? Staying in jungle the entire game seems ineffective, esp. late game. Thanks.
Bro you fuys are out of the world. When i predicted what graves would do on the mid lane if felt like such a pro lol. I wasnt really expecting lee sin to go mid, that was a really bright idea from him
What should you do as Kayn if your only winning lane is bot lane, but you need red orbs for Rhaast form? Is it worth delaying your transformation to keep ganking for bot lane?
Well maybe I am wrong and maybe most of the chall players could disagree but i am also a chall player and i think thst first example is just wrong. I mean, the decision about killing lee is correct, just a mechanical execution is so damn poor. Lee had hp that let ekko kill him for 1 combo if he didnt mess up, also ekko is very safe champion thanks to all his W, R and dash on E so if he knew how to play his champ he had a really eady way out of this situation, and taking herald would most likely end up same as the invade since garen roamed on river anyways. So if Ekko wasnt so bad mechanicly it would look like this: -he kills lee -run away -wait for kled and Kata to come back from base (in the meantime he could clear his raptors or even both raptors and gollems) -secure herald 3v2 since lee died last so he will be back there as last too That doesnt only benefit as kill and herald but also forces lee to stay top side longer so that Ekko's bot lane would longer be safe (they recall as the whole action takes place so probably after getting back there their wave will be stacked on their side and slowly push into enemy side) On the other side it could result in free drake for lee as ekko stays top side longer but 1. Ekko gets herald that is really important in pushing lead even further and 2. As said probably after getting back to lane Ekko's bot will have bigger wave and that means they can push it hard and get prio to stop Lee on drake.
Ekkos error at 4min30 isnt that his top laner was dead (you could make an argument for that). Its the fact that he invaded lee and missed Q then threw a random W in the middle of the lane now this ability is on like 12 sec cooldown. Then he took the plant to gain like 200 mana back? He would have escaped garen if he just left right away
Ye this is definitely for me... whether its ganking a ton and still having my team throw it all away, or farming to be the highest level with most gold as my team is all dying to much to help, it just seems when laning is over while I can kill 2 people solo still the rest of my team can't kill 1 person with all 4 of them and I just get stuck between, do I split, which I'm not great at and don't play 1v9 champs so at best can distract 2-3 people, or do I help my team and hope my strength lets them finally do something.
Hi! So I am someone who actually uses your guides on your site, but I do have a small issue with the setup, the website features no search fuction/video tagging for searching for useful information, the other day for example I was trying to remember a graves build discussed but could not find the video because there is no feature or tagging to search for things like 'GRAVES ITEMIZATION', is there plans for things like this in the future or do you have a place you recommend for easy accessible list of things such as itemization, tier list, and optimal strategies for each individual champion beyond searching the last 3 minutes of 100 different videos?
8:37 So in this frame I would go Top and/or secure the Herald. Only after I see Olaf in the next frame the decision is made to clear out the mid wave. Right or Wrong?
Jungle role is very stressful n painfully frustrating when u watch ur team. Throwingleads n farming jungle after winning team fight instead of pushing ... That is just one thing that is most common
Nice video, however I always have trouble applying all the knowledge live in game. Like, it's relatively easy to answer correctly to the questions in your videos, since I guess I have the time to focus on them or something, but in game I find it much harder to actually apply the knowledge...
4:48 the problem is if I make that play I can ping my mid laner to go bot with me to take last turret and they’ll never go. The biggest problem at least in NA is nobody cares to listen. If you ping them they don’t react. And when u have to give up so much all game they just flame you and say you suck for being behind when you and them could have shut the game down duo handed. Can you make a video about when to ping and when landers and even bunglers should listen to pings and value the info. That’s the bigger problem in my eyes.
On the first one, I completely disagree with you wanting to do Rift Herald. Ekko has 2000 gold and your solo laner's in base. Katarina also wants to recall, as you're saying. The play here clearly is to do Krugs and to then recall to spend your gold.
At skill capped website if we buy the program do we get more videos like the ones where hector doesn't cs for 5 minutes and such? Like challenges? I find those very informative since they show ways to work around a rough start honestly and was just wondering if those are available on the website.
Just at the end of the video i started getting the logic behind all the 3 steps... But still, there are a lot of "IF's" here, Bronce, Silver and Gold don't respond idealy at all, specially if they are stuborn and the Lee Player at the end shows it, you can follow these steps but at the end, if the team reacts like the Lee's one and you end up lossing, then there is not much to do... Even worse, lee was forced to help, but if he managed to kill Kaisa and his team lost the 4v4, he would have been raged at. So that's a lot of IFS and a lot of trust... Jungling is really hard.
Yeah you're so right. I can crush it and be on the mid inhib off a triple kill, pinging assist and my team will have 2 on my raptors, 1 warding river and 1 'split pushing'. So I think a huge part of it is just playing heaps of games... Ideally absolutely crushing at least 2 of the enemy players consistently and then hoping the laners you helped end up doing at least one useful thing
play sejuani jungle, the queen of CC, so you're relevant all throughout the game even if you're not ahead or a bit behind or just even. you can influence the game in all phases.
So question, if I take a fight that would be advantageous if my laners rotate and they don't should I not have taken that fight or is it something to keep in mind as I continue playing? Of course if they are able to rotate I wouldn't complain otherwise, but it happens to me a lot
You gotta keep pushing after you hit power spike and it's not you lvl that will secure a win it will be your gold. Once you hit spike become much more assertive in your engagement s.
You're talking about mate rotation, but we all know gold people are pinging you then trolling if you help them to push a lane, and some of them won't move from their lane
worst thing is that game plan you made is right, you make right decision to focus on easy winnable matchups on lanes but these players turn out to have 0 knowledge and throw
4:37 garen rotating mid how can he take herald tho. If he decided to take herald instead of invading lee's farm, garen would've caught him and killed him with lee backing him up. If he decides to retreat, that's a herald stolen lol.
Garen only rotates coz he saw ekko fighting ls on the wolf camp. So he tries to cut ekko off. If ekko went for herald garen would be busy pushing top and ekko wouldve get the herald since ls is already low and wont be able to contest
Lol, I have the same thought. Kata is recalling and kled is dead, which means that ekko would have to take the herald alone. Worst case is getting collapse by both garen and lee sin then got herald stolen. Invade wasn't really a bad choice
Ekko's plan to kill lee sin wasnt so bad, he just fucked up everything by literally missing everything and using e ON THE HONEYFRIUT instead of using it to escape
ekko should 100% not have gone for herald... it is too risky and it doesn't matter if the enemies got it that much because plates are down. lee would've got full HP from wolves and blue, then would've most likely checked herald if garen didn't check it (and can kill/stop him without lee). krugs would've been the better option and waiting for kled to come and take it if they haven't finished it, or tp / ult for the 3v3 which katarina will excel at cleaning up.
4:27 I'm not saying that it was a good decision trying to kill Lee but after failing that Q he would have to run away as fast as he can, I don't understand why he chased him
nonon at min 4:00 he cant just take herald its risky cuz top is dead mid wanna back and lee can easy heal on jng he should take crugs then go for herald when they are back or when he see lee at dragon side river
Pretty sure you meant to say "If Zac took the time to push out mid, Syndra would've spammed him with fall back pings and gone on tilt til the game was over"
Im a silver player, so sry, if im wrong, but Ekko taking the honeyfruit wasn't a bad play too? He had full health/mana and blue+red buffs, so he just wasted his e to jump into a dead end there.
Hi. Im bronze and play top lane and jungle. When I play top I usually find myself winning the lane and getting the turret but I find it hard to carry. Any help?
This directly contradicts that last video you made about low elo junglers. You are literally recommending junglers to farm so fast they 1v9, avoid taking objectives and avoid ganking and now suddenly Herald is the best option for Ekko.
tbh it is completely bs gold and lower elo will leave the wave even if it is big to crash on their tower if their teammates ping them. from my experience in lower elo, the main factor of randomness is the player in your game. Even if, you push out the wave from mid lane , it is either blue mid lane take the wave or she follows fight despite having a wave crashing their tower.As a proof low elo csing is bad and there is a reason for that. In theory it is viable, but there is no logic in low elo.
8:00 but why would annie clear wave if theyre being outnumbered at dragon? wouldnt literally everyone help out dragon to win a teamfight and an objective?
The argument kinda doesn't make sense. If your top laner is dead, your mid lane is recalling, how is taking the hearld the right option without even knowing if enemy has vision?
In the first clip, since kled died and kata wanted to recall isnt too risky to start herald? I feel like the best play is transition gank mid to help push out wave and let kata recall into bot scuttle and look for pick botside else do gromp and recall.
Yeah, we had one Challenger consultant say that he would just take Krugs and the other said that he felt safe starting Herald because Lee was seen very low on health and mid/top were both pushed in. Herald is definitely a calculated risk at this point, but one that did feel fairly safe overall to our consultants.
@@skillcapped it also isn't taken into account on herald, if ekko sweeps it or pops vision plant, if they have vision there, the enemy team would know he is there as well and could easily collapse on him forcing him off of it. lee also has smite up and probably wouldn't have used it on wolves if ekko never can and went to herald. just too many variables to justify herald, krugs, transition gank mid into scuttle.
Every point you make is from hindsight. The rift call would have been terrible as Kat was backing and he'd find himself in a 1v3 especially when both top and mid are being pushed by Garen and LB. Later you say don't go for objectives without lanes pushed, total contradiction. The second clip he came from base and we don't know the circumstances. He could've backed to spend 3K gold before drag for all we know. Maybe he did ward earlier and it was cleared at some point. Also, you're whole point revolves around his bot lane rotating faster. The zyra rotated first and one shot him. Ideally his ranged allies would've cleared those wards and he should've stayed back. I agree Zac was disastrous but again the clip doesn't match the comments. Syndra was going to drag not mid. Zac would've had to clear against Annie all alone and as a melee would not have gone well. After she cleared and dropped rift she could collapse anyways. When you ask what we should do in the Graves clip the mid wave is pushing and we can't see olaf so it already tricks us to say the wrong thing. We also don't see the lee sin clip team fight engage. Was it a blitz pull pick? Also fiora showed up as lee showed so it was a 4v3, then a 5v4 when lee showed, then by the time kaisa shows her team is dead. Great team fight IMO. Later you said 1 for 2, it was a 2 for 2 with elise+ashe vs trist+vel. If ashe had ulti it would have gone from even fight to great fight in elise's favour. All these low elo players saying "great guide" when you are just spewing biased info for views. Lastly playing around your strong player isn't always best. You should always check who is your win condition at the start of the game. A fed ornn or tank malphite top won't carry, but an 0-2 kassadin mid still could.
The sad thing is...in low elo people dont care about their farm and will just rotate to dragon even though they would lose farm ( here annie for example). She would just rotate and then its an evem fight again...
Ekko's decision was fine there what are u on lol? If he hit the Q and didnt cancel autos wouldve been 10/10 invade. Also, if he just walked out and havent stayed for plants he wouldve lived. So beside doing everything wrong after deciding to invade I think he made the right call.
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If League guide sites use words like suck, if streamers and worlds commentators act same, if challenger coaches like Hector disrespect low elo players, I am not suprised this whole game is most toxic place to be in when gaming.
And I must say this too. 50% of your advises does not work, because its low elo. You are talking from challenger game perspective, not low elo, like gold, because low elo mostly is just random fights and no roamings, vision control, etc. Those are good, but not great advices. Mostly they help a lot, but often very useless, when teams just randomly walk around map with no vision or play aram after laning phase.
@Play Safe yes same problem i just had
@Play Safe most lol player are like around 20 and not many 20 year olds have a credit card kinda dumb
Ain't no laning phase if you don't leave the jungle
Haha best comment
Karthus be like
Karthus ftw 😎
They don’t even contest the enemies jungle they just contest scuttle maybe
Its Always laning phase when your a Nasus
That opening sequence where you introduced the teammates? I felt that.
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the older version took me from silver 4 to silver 1, now lets see how long can i go from silver 2 this season, thnx
I made an account at skill-capped and got from plat4 to plat1 in less than a week, the guides are awesome
Good luck :)
@@Noixelfer from p3 to d3 in less than month. i watched every single video on skillcappd xd
I’m D2 and hardstuck, I don’t find any useful tips on TH-cam, do you think that I should create an account on skillcapped ?
Sekemeke Gamabanama yeah I’m jungle, okay thanks I’ll see
When you say play around strong players tpu’re forgetting one thing. My 0/9 botlane in 10th minute will ping me to death to come and gank even though the lane is warded and we will probably lose a 3v2 because of their 7/0 draven. Then when i don’t do that for obvious reasons they will question mark ping me every time they die and then write jg diff for no drakes, even though we had no botlane prior the whole game. This is how low elo works...
Simple yet powerful tool: /mute all (unmute pings if you feel like)
nah, thats not true, occasionally there will be nothing you can do really, but what you can do is be positive, mute them entirely, politely tell them to stand back and play safe under their turret, play around your winning or not losing crazy hard lanes, make sure you actually get your farm right and do what you can do right, instead of complaining about your low elo shitty teammates.
I am silver myself, for now, but I´ve learned alot and it works.
I just recently had a game where I got invaded by their whole team and Ekko took my red, I even died, then my mid just didnt pay attention and died while Ekko was coming out of our jungle at lvl 2, continued to gank and got kills ... etc. my team was tilting, but I remained calm, took my farm, ganked only when it was favourable and safe.
at lvl 7 I was 16 CS and 2 levels ahead of Ekko and even though I was Zac, and not a carry jungler, that made a huge difference. I actually invaded him and killed him on his blue, cause I had ult and he didnt ... thing is the old me wouldve given up on the game right after Ekko got that double assist at lvl 3 botlane.
old me wouldve tried to power gank my lanes back into the game and just failed miserably.
instead I learned from my mistakes and took whatever ressources I could from my jungle, his jungle, the lanes and it paid off in the end.
you´d be surprised how hard you can "come back" from a game that looks totally dire, and I say "come back" like this because in actuallity I have never been really behind in that game, it just felt like I was massively behind, but I wasnt, and realizing that is huge.
never listen to your laners, they usually dont know what they´re doing, they dont have the map awareness that you have and they simply want you to help them win their lanes, no matter what.
I've literally just had a game where this happened. I continued to play around our winning mid and eventually wrote him to come with me to bot because enemy ezreal is fed. Since we already secured mid prio and I was more fed than enemy jungler, we had very little to fear. We killed bot, shutdown gold, tilting enemy, easy win. Obviously doesn't work all the time, but surprisingly often does. Mid prio is insane if you can secure it.
What is important: don't try to gank them by youself, 2v3 is not that hard to win, and if enemy jungler is there you just donated 3 free kills.
some games are impossible to win. youre remembering that one game, stop focusing on it, not every game is like that
I saw 2 lcs players jungle and mid loosing a gold game .
4:31 im surprised Ekko wasn't demoted yet
Missing Q like that and using E on river plants when he already has max Hp and Mana
He properly took it to deny the enemy mid laner it
you seem to be the one being demoted here, misses happen, the way he cancelled 4 autos tho, and yea, plant is taken to deny it from enemies
@@vladislavchudak6160 Also if he used the vison/sweeper right he could have landed a W cause he didnt even check wolves with it, he walked forward and got spotted XD so he misses the drop on lee, missed skills and canceled 4 autos. what a play.
I was that Ekko :(
Vladislav Chudak I know he used to it remove resources but he did not need to use his E to get it lol
1. Stick with the strength * abandon feeding lanes as fighting with them results in uneven fights
2. Push wave before taking an objective
Words cannot explain how badly I needed this specific video today. Thanks as always, SkillCapped :)
I feel most of what is stated in this video applies to most roles and most players. Take ADC for example: you want to play around your own carry potential while sticking with strong teammates to help you. You would want to avoid even teamfights with ADC but if one breaks out, you have to help in order to win. Same for supports: a Blitzcrank is not very useful himself but is very useful when he gets a pick with a team by his side. His quirk is that he can make a teamfight unfair for the enemy with a single grab. Your guide clearly explains these concepts which is very nice! Keep it up!
When you take your time like this, your team starts pinging you, flaming you and dying unnecessarily trying to defend a dragon that wouldn't matter anyways, and then flaming you again for not "being there". Best advice for junglers: mute them all and do your thing.
I swear I have seen this before, Didn't I?
Here's a refreshed version!
@@skillcapped OK then. At least my brain is working properly xD
"play around the strong players in your team". Did you just assume I get any good player in my team? :P
Dude just pick a hero that make get kill to even an imbecile like sejuani or nunu and choose a lane to gank that dominate the game like renekton or zed and congrulations! Lay on your back and enjoy ur free win.
You gank the fed lane and your inting lane starts flaming you for not ganking when they're 0/7
@@trashcontent4851 that is so ture
I want to thank your jungler guides since it helped me dig myself out of Silver II 50% WR to Plat I 63% win rate, I know it's not much of a climb but I wouldn't have been able to do it without your videos.
"Vision is secured by support".... supports in my ranked game be like: "Lol support item? Do you even know how Lux support works? Check my history I am going with darkseil!!"
Yeah, the most annoying thing every is seeing a Support with an upgraded ward item...and the lowest vision on the team because they haven't set a ward since a level one trinket before jungle spawn.
@@AJStarhiker ..... i main yuumi and i place more wards than that i place 5 normaly
What you are forgetting.... if you ignore the 0/4 bot lane to help lanes that are winning that adc will rq. You can't use challenger strategies when your working with children. You have to coddle them otherwise they will just leave or try to lose because the jg didn't help them. Just had a game where a top yi....went 0/10 in 17mins with no ganks from either team. After he lost FB he just ran straight at the top tower and flamed jg.
Skillcapped is legit such a good source to imrpove yourself
8:12 Well... Annie would probably just skip the wave.
Having watched a lot of content from this channel. I think you guys should create more content on the idea of pushing mid to get priority. It doesn't seem to be emphasised enough when compared to how often you guys say "even team fights are a coin flip".
Regardless of that, I think these kinds of videos asking questions to make the audience think, is good content.
I wish so much that more people had watched your vids and used that knowledge in game.
So tiresome when teammates spawn and just autopath mid and start fighting once they see own adc catching side lane farm and 5 enemy champs in front of them
Imagine people use this knowledge and now it's hard to climb out of silver.
@@OmegaRayblade gold would become good rank (not elo hell) again after so many years
@@OmegaRayblade Well i have started to see some silver-gold players make freezes and maintain it, so, some are improving
Oftentigre probably smurfs
Your guys videos have really helped! Went from iron 1 to bronze 1 rather quickly
main thing about carrying on low elo is understanding that people would rather prefer farming if there is something to farm, in this situation you could easily go drake urself after making sure there is no wards nearby, and if is not then go for a gank to get a prio.
just wanted to ask how soon is "VERY SOON"?
If you're referring to "how to create a gameplan" on our site, about 2 hours... It's possibly our best video ever so we wanted to polish it first. Sorry for the delay!
@@skillcapped ty, just didnt know where else to ask
Wait you translated it to polish?
@@hung-upear2659 well considering most polish people i know are stuck in bronze/silver, possible
Didn't watch this yet but I know my issue in jungle is either 1) I go a hard-carry jungler (like Evelynn) and I'm not good enough to 1v5 or 2) I go jungler that helps me laners get fed (like Poppy) and then they blow their lead. Whenever I play jungle, I always feel that when I invest fully in my self, I can't 1v9. When I invest in my laners, they blow their leads and/or can't 1v9. I was Diana jg, Irelia V Camille top lane. Got Irelia a 1-0-1 lead, then she became 1-4-1 and Camille became 4-1-0. I was Kindred jg, Garen V Darius top lane. Got my Garen a 4-0-1 lead against a 0-4-0 Darius, but that 9-0-8 Jinx on the enemy team fucked us. I just never feel I can sway the output of the game from Jungle. I have a 100% winrate in support and mid in ranked (Bronze 1 getting queued with and against Silver 3's). 0% winrate in Jungle and Top. Top is just because I'm bad at 1v1ing in top lane, I don't know the champs well enough :<
Edit: Mission one is impossible when all lanes are feeding ;-;
skill capped ignore how ekko canceled his auto like 3 times and completely missed his q and didn't even both with the w, then proceeded to walk around taking honey fruit at full hp. Trying to go for lee was fine, the execution was a disaster. Katarina should have just left afterwards but got baited.
I mean the thing is that macro is generally more important than micro for climbing. A challenger could first time a champion and probably still win in a gold game.
Pokopo same thing as i thought
@@Juslin7989 bruh. challengers could play a troll pick and win in gold, they are just better at the game. The point I'm making is that they criticize his macro decision but ignore how he completely fails his invade. Sure, macro is more important overall, but you need at least enough micro TO USE YOUR ABILITIES AND NOT CANCEL ALL YOUR AUTOS
@@pokopo1859 Yeah, and what are they going to tell you? Don't cancel your autos and miss your abilities? That's common sense that even iron players know.
I think you’re overestimating what iron players know
0:27 As a ADC main I definitely feel Chaz's concerns
This video was just amazing, thank you skill capped. It talked about something that is really interesting with a summary at the end to remember it afterwards. i don't comment munch on youtube, but this time i felt like you really deserved it. Thank you!
Most important thing to focus on if you want to climb is mechanics. Doesn't matter if you make the correct decisions all game if you lack the mechanics to execute on them. Most of the games I lose are from mechanical misplays off an otherwise good play.
For instance, if Ekko had better mechanics, he would've killed Lee and gotten out easily, and then he could've secured herald uncontested, or gone for a dive on mid lane.
Killing them enemy jungler gives you such a huge advantage over them. Going for the lee was the correct play, but it was poorly executed.
Also I'm surprised you didn't mention that Ekko shouldn't have been the one clearing that pink ward in dragon pit, it should've been one of his ranged teammates. That's a very common ward, and it should almost always be cleared by a ranged champ.
Need advice (newbie junker playing only Olaf): bot lane have two champions and don't need help; top and mid lane tell everyone to back off. How do I gank or push lanes if everyone is not wanting help? How do I gank but not kill steal enemy champs? Staying in jungle the entire game seems ineffective, esp. late game. Thanks.
Slowly, but finaly getting better. Thx guys!
As a Silver 3 who's lazy to play LoL right now, this makes me feel good playing with my power players for the mid to late
Bro you fuys are out of the world.
When i predicted what graves would do on the mid lane if felt like such a pro lol.
I wasnt really expecting lee sin to go mid, that was a really bright idea from him
What should you do as Kayn if your only winning lane is bot lane, but you need red orbs for Rhaast form? Is it worth delaying your transformation to keep ganking for bot lane?
Well maybe I am wrong and maybe most of the chall players could disagree but i am also a chall player and i think thst first example is just wrong. I mean, the decision about killing lee is correct, just a mechanical execution is so damn poor. Lee had hp that let ekko kill him for 1 combo if he didnt mess up, also ekko is very safe champion thanks to all his W, R and dash on E so if he knew how to play his champ he had a really eady way out of this situation, and taking herald would most likely end up same as the invade since garen roamed on river anyways. So if Ekko wasnt so bad mechanicly it would look like this:
-he kills lee
-run away
-wait for kled and Kata to come back from base (in the meantime he could clear his raptors or even both raptors and gollems)
-secure herald 3v2 since lee died last so he will be back there as last too
That doesnt only benefit as kill and herald but also forces lee to stay top side longer so that Ekko's bot lane would longer be safe (they recall as the whole action takes place so probably after getting back there their wave will be stacked on their side and slowly push into enemy side)
On the other side it could result in free drake for lee as ekko stays top side longer but 1. Ekko gets herald that is really important in pushing lead even further and 2. As said probably after getting back to lane Ekko's bot will have bigger wave and that means they can push it hard and get prio to stop Lee on drake.
I felt that intro on a emotional level
Me early game: 4/0/3
Me post-game: 5/12/4
*lol*
That opening did dirty to me. HIT HOME REAL HARD!
Ekkos error at 4min30 isnt that his top laner was dead (you could make an argument for that). Its the fact that he invaded lee and missed Q then threw a random W in the middle of the lane now this ability is on like 12 sec cooldown. Then he took the plant to gain like 200 mana back? He would have escaped garen if he just left right away
Ye this is definitely for me... whether its ganking a ton and still having my team throw it all away, or farming to be the highest level with most gold as my team is all dying to much to help, it just seems when laning is over while I can kill 2 people solo still the rest of my team can't kill 1 person with all 4 of them and I just get stuck between, do I split, which I'm not great at and don't play 1v9 champs so at best can distract 2-3 people, or do I help my team and hope my strength lets them finally do something.
Earlier I was bummed out cause I held a ProGuides video for a new Skillcapped guide but now there actually is one!!
Very helpful video. Could you guys do one for top? For me it is easier to carry as jungler than top since i rely too much on team
12:31 "So in shock has two pinks in the same place"
At least they warded xD
I've had gold elo games where top, mid, and supp all had vision scores
I know this pain, I cannot tell you how often I have a better vision score then the supports on my teams.
Hi! So I am someone who actually uses your guides on your site, but I do have a small issue with the setup, the website features no search fuction/video tagging for searching for useful information, the other day for example I was trying to remember a graves build discussed but could not find the video because there is no feature or tagging to search for things like 'GRAVES ITEMIZATION', is there plans for things like this in the future or do you have a place you recommend for easy accessible list of things such as itemization, tier list, and optimal strategies for each individual champion beyond searching the last 3 minutes of 100 different videos?
8:37 So in this frame I would go Top and/or secure the Herald. Only after I see Olaf in the next frame the decision is made to clear out the mid wave. Right or Wrong?
Jungle role is very stressful n painfully frustrating when u watch ur team. Throwingleads n farming jungle after winning team fight instead of pushing ... That is just one thing that is most common
Such a helpful guide 🙏
Nice video, however I always have trouble applying all the knowledge live in game. Like, it's relatively easy to answer correctly to the questions in your videos, since I guess I have the time to focus on them or something, but in game I find it much harder to actually apply the knowledge...
I've spent tons of hours on watching your videos and so far can hugely feel the improvement. thanks for these :)
4:48 the problem is if I make that play I can ping my mid laner to go bot with me to take last turret and they’ll never go. The biggest problem at least in NA is nobody cares to listen. If you ping them they don’t react. And when u have to give up so much all game they just flame you and say you suck for being behind when you and them could have shut the game down duo handed. Can you make a video about when to ping and when landers and even bunglers should listen to pings and value the info. That’s the bigger problem in my eyes.
- Push lanes especially mid then take objectives
- Vision before objectives
On the first one, I completely disagree with you wanting to do Rift Herald. Ekko has 2000 gold and your solo laner's in base. Katarina also wants to recall, as you're saying. The play here clearly is to do Krugs and to then recall to spend your gold.
Easy basics of jungle haha but still interesting good video 👍 i enjoy watching all elo videos treating this as a refresher thanks skill-capped
I have not had a promised 30 day return on my membership purchase yet what should I do?
At skill capped website if we buy the program do we get more videos like the ones where hector doesn't cs for 5 minutes and such? Like challenges? I find those very informative since they show ways to work around a rough start honestly and was just wondering if those are available on the website.
oh and also is there coaching on your website or not?
Just at the end of the video i started getting the logic behind all the 3 steps... But still, there are a lot of "IF's" here, Bronce, Silver and Gold don't respond idealy at all, specially if they are stuborn and the Lee Player at the end shows it, you can follow these steps but at the end, if the team reacts like the Lee's one and you end up lossing, then there is not much to do... Even worse, lee was forced to help, but if he managed to kill Kaisa and his team lost the 4v4, he would have been raged at. So that's a lot of IFS and a lot of trust... Jungling is really hard.
Yeah you're so right. I can crush it and be on the mid inhib off a triple kill, pinging assist and my team will have 2 on my raptors, 1 warding river and 1 'split pushing'. So I think a huge part of it is just playing heaps of games... Ideally absolutely crushing at least 2 of the enemy players consistently and then hoping the laners you helped end up doing at least one useful thing
play sejuani jungle, the queen of CC, so you're relevant all throughout the game even if you're not ahead or a bit behind or just even. you can influence the game in all phases.
Zac is just a better sejuani though
Video starts at 1:31
So question, if I take a fight that would be advantageous if my laners rotate and they don't should I not have taken that fight or is it something to keep in mind as I continue playing? Of course if they are able to rotate I wouldn't complain otherwise, but it happens to me a lot
You gotta keep pushing after you hit power spike and it's not you lvl that will secure a win it will be your gold. Once you hit spike become much more assertive in your engagement s.
is nobody gonna talk abt the "support" that one shot ekko at 5:17
What support? I only see a Zyra...
You're talking about mate rotation, but we all know gold people are pinging you then trolling if you help them to push a lane, and some of them won't move from their lane
"Avoid even fights" HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
My team laners die in lane without enemy jg presence before level 6
Pretty sure that comment was about team fights and not about 1v1 laning :)
0:25 that situation... omg I can't count the times I have beem there
Rift herald would have been an awful call for Ekko to do. I mean the Garen even pathed that way when he killed him.
Well this video isn't for me, i dont fall off after laning phase, i already suck during laning phase. xD
The weird thing is for me I feel the exact opposite. My laning phase is usually decent but not great. Then I just completely farm after that.
worst thing is that game plan you made is right, you make right decision to focus on easy winnable matchups on lanes but these players turn out to have 0 knowledge and throw
4:37 garen rotating mid how can he take herald tho. If he decided to take herald instead of invading lee's farm, garen would've caught him and killed him with lee backing him up. If he decides to retreat, that's a herald stolen lol.
Garen only rotates coz he saw ekko fighting ls on the wolf camp. So he tries to cut ekko off. If ekko went for herald garen would be busy pushing top and ekko wouldve get the herald since ls is already low and wont be able to contest
Lol, I have the same thought. Kata is recalling and kled is dead, which means that ekko would have to take the herald alone. Worst case is getting collapse by both garen and lee sin then got herald stolen. Invade wasn't really a bad choice
Ekko's plan to kill lee sin wasnt so bad, he just fucked up everything by literally missing everything and using e ON THE HONEYFRIUT instead of using it to escape
Now I understand where those challenger smurfs on the opposite team in my rankeds come from. All sent by skillcapped... damn you guys.
Basically, play around strong lane, push mid, get vision then picks/free objectives. Don't fight even.
ekko should 100% not have gone for herald... it is too risky and it doesn't matter if the enemies got it that much because plates are down. lee would've got full HP from wolves and blue, then would've most likely checked herald if garen didn't check it (and can kill/stop him without lee). krugs would've been the better option and waiting for kled to come and take it if they haven't finished it, or tp / ult for the 3v3 which katarina will excel at cleaning up.
4:27 I'm not saying that it was a good decision trying to kill Lee but after failing that Q he would have to run away as fast as he can, I don't understand why he chased him
That ekko's mechanics are insane
is not a mistake to follow herald on mid instead of unleash it and immediately go to drake in the last replay?
nonon at min 4:00 he cant just take herald its risky cuz top is dead mid wanna back and lee can easy heal on jng he should take crugs then go for herald when they are back or when he see lee at dragon side river
Pretty sure you meant to say "If Zac took the time to push out mid, Syndra would've spammed him with fall back pings and gone on tilt til the game was over"
Im a silver player, so sry, if im wrong, but Ekko taking the honeyfruit wasn't a bad play too? He had full health/mana and blue+red buffs, so he just wasted his e to jump into a dead end there.
Stay consistent ❤️❤️
Watching this cause I’m currently on a losing streak 0-5 and learning how my jg wont gank for us with me being 2/0/1 and my supp 0/1/3
probs cuz youre pushing and they dont think they can / cant dive
coz u probs have 0 vision on enemy jungle as well if u towerdive and get counter ganked it can get fucking bad
Hi. Im bronze and play top lane and jungle. When I play top I usually find myself winning the lane and getting the turret but I find it hard to carry. Any help?
The problem is that junglers ignore Heralds... Not sure how they fall off SEJ is op...Rammus OP...with COMPETENT players.
This directly contradicts that last video you made about low elo junglers. You are literally recommending junglers to farm so fast they 1v9, avoid taking objectives and avoid ganking and now suddenly Herald is the best option for Ekko.
tbh it is completely bs gold and lower elo will leave the wave even if it is big to crash on their tower if their teammates ping them. from my experience in lower elo, the main factor of randomness is the player in your game. Even if, you push out the wave from mid lane
, it is either blue mid lane take the wave or she follows fight despite having a wave crashing their tower.As a proof low elo csing is bad and there is a reason for that.
In theory it is viable, but there is no logic in low elo.
What is the music at 11:30?
8:00 but why would annie clear wave if theyre being outnumbered at dragon? wouldnt literally everyone help out dragon to win a teamfight and an objective?
I saw old version for the first time just yesterday, what a timing guys
The argument kinda doesn't make sense. If your top laner is dead, your mid lane is recalling, how is taking the hearld the right option without even knowing if enemy has vision?
I would actually love it if my adc was Chazz Princeton. CHAZZ IT UP
Bold to assume my team mates will look at the map xD
In the first clip, since kled died and kata wanted to recall isnt too risky to start herald? I feel like the best play is transition gank mid to help push out wave and let kata recall into bot scuttle and look for pick botside else do gromp and recall.
Yeah, we had one Challenger consultant say that he would just take Krugs and the other said that he felt safe starting Herald because Lee was seen very low on health and mid/top were both pushed in. Herald is definitely a calculated risk at this point, but one that did feel fairly safe overall to our consultants.
@@skillcapped it also isn't taken into account on herald, if ekko sweeps it or pops vision plant, if they have vision there, the enemy team would know he is there as well and could easily collapse on him forcing him off of it. lee also has smite up and probably wouldn't have used it on wolves if ekko never can and went to herald. just too many variables to justify herald, krugs, transition gank mid into scuttle.
12:30 double control ward xd
Every point you make is from hindsight. The rift call would have been terrible as Kat was backing and he'd find himself in a 1v3 especially when both top and mid are being pushed by Garen and LB. Later you say don't go for objectives without lanes pushed, total contradiction. The second clip he came from base and we don't know the circumstances. He could've backed to spend 3K gold before drag for all we know. Maybe he did ward earlier and it was cleared at some point. Also, you're whole point revolves around his bot lane rotating faster. The zyra rotated first and one shot him. Ideally his ranged allies would've cleared those wards and he should've stayed back. I agree Zac was disastrous but again the clip doesn't match the comments. Syndra was going to drag not mid. Zac would've had to clear against Annie all alone and as a melee would not have gone well. After she cleared and dropped rift she could collapse anyways. When you ask what we should do in the Graves clip the mid wave is pushing and we can't see olaf so it already tricks us to say the wrong thing. We also don't see the lee sin clip team fight engage. Was it a blitz pull pick? Also fiora showed up as lee showed so it was a 4v3, then a 5v4 when lee showed, then by the time kaisa shows her team is dead. Great team fight IMO. Later you said 1 for 2, it was a 2 for 2 with elise+ashe vs trist+vel. If ashe had ulti it would have gone from even fight to great fight in elise's favour. All these low elo players saying "great guide" when you are just spewing biased info for views. Lastly playing around your strong player isn't always best. You should always check who is your win condition at the start of the game. A fed ornn or tank malphite top won't carry, but an 0-2 kassadin mid still could.
This is insanely helpful, even for me play 2 lol thanks!! :)
The sad thing is...in low elo people dont care about their farm and will just rotate to dragon even though they would lose farm ( here annie for example). She would just rotate and then its an evem fight again...
Jungle is the hardest role to play mentally. Easiest to play skill wise.
Ekko's decision was fine there what are u on lol? If he hit the Q and didnt cancel autos wouldve been 10/10 invade.
Also, if he just walked out and havent stayed for plants he wouldve lived. So beside doing everything wrong after deciding to invade I think he made the right call.
Finally, what to do after laning phase.
the first 40 secs hit me deeply
Why do i get the most unique teams in the word. Somehow getting 3 SUPPORTS AND A CRAPPY JUNGLES