The Tomorrow War, starring Chris Pratt and JK Simmons, is a dumb, obvious, cliched sci-fi action movie. It's also surprisingly fun. Join me as I find out why.
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I felt the same way. Please review a show you’re already seen, Farscape with the amazing Claudia Black. It was a small budget weird but unique gem of an Aussie production.
Hey Critical i thought that the reason he becomes estranged from his family is because he goes into the future, comes back all fked up and then ends up like his father and ends up dying alone which fucks up his daughter? If this isnt what was portrayed then i guess i just made it up as I was watching and dont tell me any different because my reality though wrong is better. and with the time thing they conscript anyone who is already dead so they cant lose anyone alive in the future... isnt that the same reason they send back young people who have no way of meeting themselves? again if wrong dont tell me any different because of above reasons
I will take, hand down "Stupid fun moive" anytime Then so call "Oscar contender movie" nowadays. I same goes with Godzilla vs. King Kong movie gave me the same feels too.
It's interesting how these types of movies are making a comeback. People are willing to overlook the flaws just to have some fun action with awesome CGI and minimum politics. Take a hint, Hollywood.
I liked it cause its one of the few movies in a while that doesn't completely shit on fathers. Even his Dad with Vietnam era PTSD finds a way home in the end.
@Thom Hagan the daughter was only a major and was in a scientific role which is very different from a major who is commanding combat units. I don't remember if we ever find out the rank of the one who time travels in the beginning but she was mostly just a liaison between the actual military leadership in the future and contemporary governments and militaries. my point here is that neither one of those characters were really in any sort of significant military leadership role one of my issues with the movie was that we never got to see something like a future high command meeting, it would have been nice to have a 5 or 10 minute scene where combat commanders are planning the last stand, perhaps they could have used that opportunity to squeeze in an explanation for the time machine managing to survive long enough
I mean, we have Harrison Ford. And many other films that depict that very same thing. I wouldn't really call it "refreshing". It's pretty formulaic. But it is nice to see.
Didn't we had the movie "Nobody" with a similar premise to this? This type of premise isn't really "refreshing", unless you don't watch that many movies/tv shows.
Look, I'm gonna be honest. Watching a movie hero literally fistfight an alien to fucking death is exactly what I want to see in a movie. 10/10 would watch again.
This was a refreshing way to show why diversity is good. Its not just to make everyone feel good about themselves, it is also better to live in a society’s that encourages everyone to be different because we never know what might matter in the future.
@@nickjohnson1424 I actually Wikipedia'd him because I've known his work all the way back to Oz, and was asking myself how is it that this guy doesn't age? 😂
I was reading interviews with the director and Pratt and they would like to make more movies looking into the whitespikes and have more world building for the alien race.
sounds liek the begining of a fan-loved and frikin fun universe, hollywood can keep all their woke-shit movies so long as we have ppl making movies like this one imo!
Best line I’ve heard on TH-cam in a long time: "seems totally obvious to anyone who doesn’t need help dressing themselves in the morning ". Bravo, Drinker
Disagree. From the moment Black Widow was introduced in Iron Man 2, I thought Yvonne should have been cast for the role. She's Polish Australian, so she can pull off a convincing Eastern European accent by virtue of the fact she can speak Polish fluently (even if Russian and Polish are two different languages), and she can emote a thousand times better than SJ.
What I watched this movie and it got to the part when they were having a football World cup party my first thought was that I have never heard of such a thing in the United States. I've been to plenty of super bowl parties, but the number of people I have known IRL who are into soccer could be counted on one hand
It is, but at the same time, it is just a dumb fun movie that knows it's a dumb fun movie. This is what movies should be, plain entertainment. You can have deep meaningfull mesages in movies sure, but normally they are the wrong type that makes normal people want to vomit what they ate 4 months ago
@@MachoMan_Vert nah f&f has been going on for so long to just insert messages in it in the last installment would be weird and John wick is made by good people with good intentions
@@MachoMan_Vert The most "woke" F&F was the latest movie where Nikki Minaj was running an all girl SWAT team. This actually wasn't even woke, it's was just normal F&F brand of hilarious, because NM doesn't look like the type to run one.
@Siboniso Buthelezi Oh shit, that's even worse. Cardi B is both a scumbag, & even worse in the role than NM, considering NM despite not having a license, at least still had some interest in cars.
When things were at their very worst: 2 Suns, Cross in the sky, 2 comets will collide = don`t be afraid - repent, accept Lord`s Hand of Mercy. Scientists will say it was a global illusion. Beaware - Jesus will never walk in flesh again. After WW3 - rise of the “ man of peace“ from the East = Antichrist - the most powerful, popular, charismatic and influential leader of all time. Many miracles will be attributed to him. He will imitate Jesus in every conceivable way. Don`t trust „pope“ Francis = the False Prophet - will seem to rise from the dead - will unite all Christian Churches and all Religions as one. One World Religion = the seat of the Antichrist. Benedict XVI is the last true pope - will be accused of a crime of which he is totally innocent. "The schism in My Church will be broken into different stages" Sunday, 20 October 2013 The Book of Truth
It was fun, for sure. I think they missed the boat not having more J.K. Simmons, especially interacting with Chris Pratt. Their scenes were some of the best in the movie.
I got the feeling there may have been more scenes but they got cut. Their interaction during the last combat scenes seemed more than a little bit too familiar for the prolonged estrangement the movie previously showed between them.
@@curtisnucmed On a J.K. note, if you haven't seen it, watch his SF series, Counterpart, available on Prime. Only 2 seasons (and canceled during its original TV run to make way for women oriented programs) but he's amazing in it.
@@cannedbollocks He's polite about it not disrespectful. During his award acceptance speech he even praised Jesus, asked kids to stop fooling around, to work harder, to pray and believe etc etc. He at the end of the day just seems like a genuine good guy and a hard working man. He hasn't been cancelled yet because he isn't political nor has he ever tried to be disrespectful in trying to be funny. He's just living his life peacefully away from all the toxicity.
@@alqaeda7040 at the beginning it shouldn't have even been released in cinemas as originally it only would release on amazon but I think after airing on amazon they decided to also release it in cinema. And on amazon it was the most viewed movie for I think a couple of days to a week which is why sequel is coming
Honestly I would Rather Have A Dumb Movie Than a Woke one, because at least it doesn’t lecture you and Let’s you enjoy something that doesn’t feel like Pushing Agendas for the sake of Agendas
Coulda sworn there is a very distinct climate change message in there though, like please don't f up the planet for future generations, work together to find a solution now, yada yada yada?
The Tomorrow War reminded me of the old 90s action movies like Armageddon and Independence Day. Just a big summer blockbuster with some fun action and humor. Wish we had more of these tbh
One thing I loved was the desperation of the future soldiers in every scene they were in like the queen extraction every soldier was immediate in their response and throwing themselves at the drones even if it only meant seconds of time or the heli pilot immediately swerving to intercept the flying drones it really felt like humanity's last stand
But that made it more stupid. The lack of proper decision making or planning of any form. The willingness to throw away non replaceable resources and screw themselves even more. Also there is no way that the creatures can apparently teleport because there is no way they could have arrived there in time if they had to travel on foot. And if they had effective tranquilizers they could have just used though from the start. Furthermore they didn't need the live queen. They could have just blown her up and collected her remains. Every scene was stupid beyond belief.
Dude I loved this movie. You are right on the money about the family dynamic and the bravery and protecting role of the father. Great stuff. I really miss aspirational male leads nowadays.
@@SP-pn7xx Daim, now when you said it, I'm actually wondering whether they didnt do a motion capture of Miranda based on her. The resemblence is striking! ^^' (bar the hair)
The only thing I disagree with is about Dan and his struggles from a normal life. I feel exactly like he does, and I connected to his entire story . You wouldn’t think I was an unhappy man but we never know what’s in someone’s head
@@thefitnerd5116 I'll give a compliment to the first movie that actively goes out of its way not to be nominated. I watched Dr No the other day, the credits were 20 seconds long, I miss that. No disrespect to the crew, who I know care more about being paid than being listed. Do many people I know have worked on xyz and been uncredited and could not care less.
I like the fact that you're honestly brutal in your review. Shows consistency. I hope that more films have the guts to be fun. Also Yvonne Strahovski is Miranda in Mass Effect 2 and 3.
@@kennethprice8710 I call this movie "a glorified B movie" because of them... and I say this not as an insult because B movies are generally cult movies...
after 10 years of avoiding hollywood movies i watched this edge of tommorow and love and monsters.. and strangly i liked them.. all of them a bit dumb but great.. just like hollywood from the past.. you sit and you enjoy.. no need fo all that brain activity.. i also love that Yvone or how ever she is called.. a very good actress besides her good looks
I feel the same way as you about the movie, but I have to say that the staircase scene where we first encounter the White Spikes was one of the best creature introduction scenes I think I have ever watched. That scene in particular had excellent pacing, and actually unnerved me, which almost no other movie has, even horror ones.
"Is this what movies used to be like?" That was exactly my thoughts coming away from this movie. I didn't realize how on edge I usually am in preparation for some dumbass lecture until I caught myself actually having fun.
If you ignore all the logic holes and lack of intelligence, it was a fine movie for an Amazon release. If I went to the theatre and paid full price I would had some bad things to say, but from a streaming service? It clicked enough boxes for me to find it enjoyable to watch on a weekend.
@@chalion8399 Indeed. Like the drinker said, you can have a field day picking this movie apart. But in this landscape of wokeism, this was one of the best movie I've watched in years. This and "The Father".
@justsomeguyhere jesus there are so many snobs like you , lot of yall must be so bitter and sad if you won't TRY to enjoy a dumb movie , you just sound pretentious when all you do is critique like people care about your opinion , nothing wrong with saying a movie is bad when it clearly is but don't try to make people dislike it if they don't
@@exilemorin04 Or maybe instead of watching dumb movies I'll only watch good ones because I don't have a thousand years to rot away watching low quality shit?
I'd disagree with Drinker in that this movie does have a message, it's that we need more scientists and doctors and engineers. From Chris Pratt's daughter being an MIT grad, to the volcano boy, to Sam Richardson's character, the message I saw being pushed was that we should strive for more of those intellectual roles. However, it's never lecturing, nor does it go the normal Hollywood route of downplaying the military, it doesn't talk down to anyone. It also acknowledged PTSD (again, without being overbearing). It was a fun little scifi flick
yea. there were messages here, they just didnt beat you over the head with them, and they never really detracted from the movie. I really liked this movie for just being what it was...an entertaining sci fi action flick that never took itself too seriously.
@@taliefer16 I thought it had a very strong message of family being what matters, with both the father-daughter and son-father relationship, with a straight white man being in the middle of both. Compared to most films to come out of Hollywood, I'd say that's a better message than you'd usually find.
You missed the actually really creative way they get around the Grandfather paradox in this movie - they use future knowledge to gather a database of eligible recruits in the future, the main criteria being the recruits have to have died by the time the invasion started. I'm assuming they also check to make sure the recruit isn't going to cure cancer or do something equally noteworthy in the few years between 2022 and their death
one thing they didn't touch on was how when the link was destroyed it left behind the people from the future who hadn't been born, but since the link was destroyed they wouldn't be able to go back to the future before they were born in the past, so essentially there is going to be a paradox soon after the time where the movie ended.
But that DOES NOT AVOID THE PARADOX. The very fact they reached backwards in time creates the paradox because in the original timeline no one reached backwards in time. AND that does not mean those people would not have given birth between point A and point B. FURTHERMORE you are forgetting the Butterfly Effect. You don't have to be alive to change the timeline. If you utter word or even just breath that affects the future. So the fact that people were removed from the timeline years before they stopped breathing means they altered the timeline.
The future also uses short barrels(less velocity) for bullet resistant aliens. For a hilarious take on the weapons used check out Brandon Herrera’s breakdown. I think he’s also the pinned comment in this comment section Edit: not the pinned comment, just the first one listed when I clicked on the video
To be fair, there were a couple occasions when they went to their sidearms, presumably because their rifle was empty. But yeah, how hard would it have been to throw in a mag change here or there?
This film, reminds me a lot of Battle: Los Angeles. Think too long about it and you realize that it's objectively terrible, but take it a face value, and you will be entertained. That's all we want- entertainment, is that so hard? This movie deserves to be successful, if only to show Hollywoke that the money is there to be made, if they could only pull their heads out of their asses.
Drinker, you absolutely HAVE to do Netflix’s new “Masters of the Universe.” Hint: there’s a reason why it’s not called “He-man and the Masters of the Universe.”
Black widow movie is so bad, they try to mimic action scene from winter soldier but it not even close, i bet 100% people watch it just because they love natasha
It really isn't any better at all. Same mindless, pointless action movie. Must be that anti Disney agenda clowding your judgment. Disney dumb movie bad! Other company dumb movie good!
@@fullmetalb5241 but black widow tries to be more than it is and tries to be serious but fails and ends up as a dumb action movie anyway, the tomorrow war knows its dumb and acts like it
If this movie had ended when the protagonist had come back and seen his daughter at the 1 hour and 30 mark I would have rated it higher because the movie felt it had reached it's climax.
The movie may not make any sense at all, but it does prove that putting Chris Pratt into anything will make people want to see it. Hell it’s even getting a sequel.
@@RogueFox2185 Feels weird considering this movie felt like it could have been split easily into two or three films and been the better for it. Still was entertained enough for it though.
We should make it an international men's day thing. Have as many men as possible tune into it, or go to theatres with their son's to watch it on 19th November. It might annoy a few people, but I'm certain we can roar louder than they squeak, if it comes to that.
You know how horrible it is to find really good father and daughter movies that are recent. It's sad to tell my daughter that there's not that many when she wants to watch a movie with her favorite person, her father. I mostly have to look for the movies in the past. Glad this movie came out.
I just like how with this setup, we can just completely side-step my common minor pet peeve of "somehow we won against a race who's supposed to be way smarter and more technologically capable, and there isn't a truly satisfying and believable reason why."
As a dad this makes me smile as frankly dad's don't get anywhere near the same respect of the mum. I was stopped from seeing my daughter due to the mother and not any problems. Alot of single dads killed themselves are getting treated like garbage by the system and mothers. I nearly did too for 2 years I wanted to get hit by a bus .
@@dr69_420 what's sad is that not a lot know about it and cares. My boyfriend (an American) told me that his grandfather and uncle killed themselves because of their cheating wives. And he also got cheated on by a girlfriend of 1 year (now ex), who had the audacity to say that she's pregnant with his child when he wasn't. He was scared of getting into relationships again until he met a crazy Asian girl (me). He says he's not ever talking to an American woman again lol.
One other positive of this movie that you didn't mention is the alien design -I think the VFX artists and the design team came up with a really neat looking alien 👌. If the aliens had looked dumb or boring, that also could have easily totally sunk the whole film.
Battle: Los Angeles was really underrated. It actually seems like they consulted the Marine Corps and rest of the military when making the film. It was pretty tactically sound for a conventional modern Marine squad/team/platoon compared to most films.
This is what ‘anti wokeness ‘ does to you: it transforms you into a shell of your past self, only capable of seeing diversity quotas behind every decision. The anti woke have become as annoying and narrow minded as the woke, which is saying something.
@@Hamlet92100 it's glaringly obvious when a film is trying to lecture and make a statement about racial and sexual politics, it's obnoxious and sours otherwise good stories. Tomorrow War, Alita, and Blade Runner 2049 are praised in recent Sci fi because despite having a "diverse" cast its not a vehicle for present day social commentary. Which for the past 5 years, *not*making the minority members of your cast into empty vessels for social commentary had become a statement unto itself. It's pandering and insulting to everyone. And claiming you don't see it or don't care is smug and disingenuous
Now that you mentioned the diverse cast - yeah, you are right - I completely missed that while watching the movie. It was done so organically and felt absolutely natural - just us (humans) vs. them (aliens). I like how they portrayed the Fathers too - one was a nice dad, the other was a complete A-hole, yet both were willing to sacrifice themselves to save their children. This is what most fathers are like.
@@Hamlet92100 And wokeness turns one into a fascist racist/sexist, incapable of seeing past the surface of skin colour or sexual orientation. Look, if the ten best writers available are ten obese black lesbians, then by all means hire the ten obese black lesbians - why bring insignificant hiring 'qualities' such as sex orientation and skin colour, isn't that racist and sexist? Anyway, such diversity hiring is visible in the lower quality, self-obsessed, misandric work it produces, which is perfectly normal when hiring criterions are anything but talent. Sure, sure, we can ride along with a few of these 'statements', like benevolent parents cheering up the clumsy efforts of their kids, but don't ask us - and I am a real progressive guy - to LARP along all the way into mediocrity for racism and sexism's sake. The woke actively destroys our sociologic relations, and while I admit some go way too far, fighting this movement is the right thing to do.
I actually ended up really enjoying this movie, I’d say the first half of it was OK at best but I think as it went on the back half of the movie itself could’ve just been a standalone great movie. And as usual Chris Pratt was phenomenal!
To the movie's credit, it had one of the best alien introductions that I've ever seen. The clicking, the shapes moving around in the darkness, the scientists impaled on spikes. Even the reveal was creepy and terrifying. Perfectly set the tone of horror that it was going for. It's a shame that was the best part of the movie.
What I didn't like was earlier the monster could turn over a jeep but couldn't kill two men earlier. If they were consistent, maybe it could have been slightly better but nonetheless I liked it
I was really hoping they'd do more with that 'clicking' the black guy talked about in therapy. It could have been central to the tale, really adding some gravitas, fear, horror, worry, etc. Sadly, they dropped it like a hot rock because roars were "mo betta", I guess.
He’s charismatic, has moral standards and a straight up guy. Hollywood are repulsed by this kind of star when it’s very existence is owed to them by actors like Chris Pratt. This was one of the only recent releases I’ve watched all the way through. No preaching, virtue signalling or self flagelation. Great stuff👍
Actually this film is metaphorical in itself. The time travel, the aliens, etc... are just the plot device to move the main theme and point, it is a story about regret, 2nd chance, redemption, and family.
The tomorrow War is a brain-melt movie. You can put it on, look at the big explosions and flashy lights and still get the jist if the plot and enjoy it. I like it
I think the white spikes were the best part of the movie, the way they moved and attacked was absolutely spectacular. I enjoyed watching them despite the horrific ways they killed
I think like Chris Pratt had essentially said, it was all to return to a sense of normalcy, to be able to make a movie anyone could enjoy without having to worry about this or that. And all and all I think they succeeded. I said myself when I first saw the trailer that the movie looked cheesy as fuck but hey it managed to essentially do what it was meant to be, just a fun normal stupid action flick that helped to return us to that normal feeling, like there was an actual action movie that we could watch and just enjoy and ignore anything too negative or too positive.
It’s really sad that not being “woke” can elevate a movie so much these days. But it’s true! Any movie like this will always be good in my book for keeping politics out and just entertaining me and allowing me to escape.
It's fun and not at all pushy about it, but the entire plot of the movie is "in 30 years global warming kills us all, so you people living now have to stop it". There's nothing wrong with using it as a plot device for a fun story, but also not worth overlooking the underlying message.
Yep. You nailed it. An imperfect action sci fi movie without a heavy handed message, a happy ending and a decent cast. No wonder I liked it. Hello Hollywood?
I get what you're saying about Chris's character but I'm glad there's a movie about a service member/first responder/ect (hell even a normal dad), that isn't a divorced, depressed, failure of a parent like so many movies nowadays.
This is what irked me about early reviews I read of the film. Chris’s character walked out of the family, and that’s not hinted at with the guy we see. If he was portrayed as a douche bag who’s then redeemed, then ok, that’s a story arc…and probably not one Chris Pratt wants to play.
The 3 best bits for me were a) the complex but positive portrayal of fatherhood(as you already pointed out), b) the daughter having an interest in science and her parents encouraging it. My own daughter is very similar, so that's more of a personal connection and c) the scene where the two civilians, with no training or prior experience, volunteer to hang back and hold the line to try and give the rest of the team a chance to escape. This kind of everyman heroism is what the cultural and political elite sneer at nowadays and we desperately need more stories that feature it.
C: Really struck me immidiately. Part of it was they were the spotters teamed together. When one went down the other wouldn't leave his side and they held off the enemy as long as they could. Life and death situation can form bonds quickly. That and a certain amount of human decency.,
Revisiting this review, Will missed a point in the movie where Dan and Charlie wonder between themselves why the conscripts are older people while the soldiers themselves are young. They conclude that it's to avoid any temporal paradoxes. This is coupled with the fact that Adult Muri revealed that Dan died prior to the war which is why the future soldiers confirmed his death certificate as being seven years from that point in the present when he is officially conscripted. It's not really a plot hole when thinking about the people from the present being erased from the timeline if they die in the future because the movie already showed that the conscripted civilians have already died at some time during the thirty years prior to the White Spikes launching their attack. A prime example of this is Dorian, who volunteered for his third tour, when he revealed to Dan that he has terminal cancer and would rather die fighting the White Spikes than sitting at home waiting for a slow, painful death.
This movie, although not the best, provided a breath of fresh air. My lady and I watched it and it had us in suspense each time the Whitespikes were shown. It was an awesome watch and in certain instances I almost cried. When Forrester didn't get the job and you saw him sitting with his daughter contemplating his life, that scene really resonated with me. As a man, you always want to provide wholesomely for your family.
The movie had the same problem that all modern action and sci-fi movies have - it felt like a video game. Apart from that, it was a breath of fresh air because of the lack of identity politics and feminism being shoved down the viewer's throat.
@@ronniejones1425 The thing is, shockingly, they didn't politicize it and preach down to everyone for a change. It was just there, for the viewer to interpret as they saw fit, without any sermons.
@Z. Michael Gehlke And they're correct. It is a low standard, just as the fact that it's a poorly made movie is a pretty low standard, as pointed out by The Drinker. I'm not saying it was good that they used the tactic. I'm saying that, in our current shitty cinematic climate, even a small improvement is just that - an improvement.
I watched it from start to end without betting an eye because it didn’t force American political agendas on me. Literally just a movie like back in the day.
Is that sarcasm??? It starts with the little girl being the (scientist) Then half the street is black in what appeared to be the most middle class white neighborhood in america. Then the future humans arrive being lead by a mixed race woman, a black man an asian man and what looks like a butch lesbian specific identity you wouldn't wanna get wrong. No white men. At this point i switched it off.
Not American agendas, left-wing agendas. Not the same thing. I know it's schematics but as an American, I do not wish to be associated with the clods in question.
@@covingtonrace1 still, white main character and the whites saved the world too. They have a woke quota to meet to stop The film being canceled so they had to make concessions. It’s like a woke tax almost.
Plot might be a little dumb but it was entertaining and there aren't many movies involving the earth's core so I forgive it. The cast was actually half decent too.
@@votpavel As contradictory as it sounds, I agree with you. I do think its great, even though there's so much wrong with it, the science is hilariously bad and full of errors. The logical part of me says its an awful film, and yet if I saw it on TV, it would be a no brainer to put it on, and i'd enjoy it. Every. Single. Time. A guilty pleasure for me, i guess....
@@itsDDDD the problem was is that they spend 30 extra minutes on useless shit when they portrayed the disasters...bird scene and fee more i forget.The part where they in that open area full of chrystals was so cool but too short,still good. I reccomend space movie "sunshine" if you havent seen it yet, more recent "life" is good too
You can always tell if an actor has used (or been taught hiw to use) a gun by looking at their trigger arm, if its sticking out to the side, you know they've never been taught how, if its tucked in for stability, bingo. Chris Pratt knows how, that always helps my immersion
I liked this movie. The time travel plot issues are awful but the father, son, and daughter redemption arc hit me right in the feels. Unlike most of the other fast and the furious movies it's the first movie I've seen in a while where family MEANS something and bad fathers can find a way home.
I personally liked how they kind of "solved" possible time paradoxes. The soldiers of the past are trained by young future troopers, who haven't been born yet, they make sure that the civilians they conscript are dead in the future they'll travel to and they explain that you can only travel through the 2 "portals" they've created in the flow of time.
Consider that there are 3 timelines we know of. One, which we will call Toxin, where the Toxin is successfully recreated and used to successfully kill the Whitespikes. The second, which our Dan (universe 1) is sent to, where the Jumplink is destroyed but Muri and Dan create the toxin successfully. And a third, hypothetical universe where they fail to create a toxin, causing Dan (originally from universe 2) to return to the second universe thinking Muri (universe 3) died for nothing, thereby estranging her and giving her the impetus to succeed in her own timeline. See where I'm going with this?
@@aspenmgy Yes, that seems like a pretty big hole in the plot. Again, the weak writing to the rescue. They have lousy records in the future, and can't bring back just anyone in case they're among the few still alive? So they have to pick only those for whom records exist, which isn't many.
But why do they send in random people with no training, at least give everyone they believe to be dead in the future some training… it’s like sending a person who’s only ever played football once, and then make him/her play in the Super Bowl 🤷🏼♂️
It's rare enough to get positive fatherhood models in action films these days, not just men in "paternity-adjacent" capacities but men being dads and wanting to actively be good dads at that. Coupled with the fun action scenes and the incredible creature design, I really liked TTW
positive? he risked everything to save his daughter that didnt matter nor exist if he saved the past... and he risked everyone in the past..... unsubbing from frinker, u all r idiots
The movie held my attention for the entire run time - and personally it didn't feel like two and a half hours. It was fast, tense and exciting. Yes, there were issues with the plot but I thought the character dynamic between Chris Pratt's character and Yvonne Strahovski was emotionally moving. Yvonne nailed the role and the relationship seemed real - that really sold the movie. It has been a very long since a new release movie has captured and swept a viewer like myself up that you are having too much fun to care about the plot holes. The action was fast and exciting and it's nice to see a movie focusing on entertainment and fun.
Why not educate everyone immediately on the weak points of the enemy? You know, basic military strategy? Nope, the future generals have less military knowledge than an 8 year old Call of Duty player.
@@Paulafan5 Well, consider that the reason why the aliens are resilient is because of MAGIC. Yep, magic. Because in reality bullets will go through any animal. Physics in all.
There were a ton of shots fired off in this movie from the veteran gratitude to a father being a main part of the family and bread winner, I loved how they slid in these things or maybe I'm just looking too deep into it to find things to diss hollywoke with
6:27 I will admit, when I watched the movie, and I saw that these mufukas could GLIDE (Gargoyles cartoon reference) I was like “ah nah, hell naw, we all gon die yo.” 😂
Pratt's main arc is realizing anyone (even himself) can be fallible and thus forgiving his father, and realigning his own priorities. If he was having trouble to begin with that would just make his initial rejection of his father hypocritical.
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climate change is the real boogie man ... hahahahaha
Same author writes decent horror, but afaik this book wasnt particularly noteworthy.
I felt the same way. Please review a show you’re already seen, Farscape with the amazing Claudia Black. It was a small budget weird but unique gem of an Aussie production.
Hey Critical i thought that the reason he becomes estranged from his family is because he goes into the future, comes back all fked up and then ends up like his father and ends up dying alone which fucks up his daughter? If this isnt what was portrayed then i guess i just made it up as I was watching and dont tell me any different because my reality though wrong is better.
and with the time thing they conscript anyone who is already dead so they cant lose anyone alive in the future... isnt that the same reason they send back young people who have no way of meeting themselves? again if wrong dont tell me any different because of above reasons
These days, "Not going to win any Oscars," is more of an endorsement than anything.
Aint that the truth.
I will take, hand down "Stupid fun moive" anytime Then so call "Oscar contender movie" nowadays. I same goes with Godzilla vs. King Kong movie gave me the same feels too.
Yep
Yeah. There've been a few exceptions in recent years, but for me "Oscar nominated for best picture" means "don't waste your time".
yeah no shit.
“Mr president we’ve found the alien ship”
“Nah it’ll be fine”
"It's a future problem and there's always future solutions"
I read that in the Drinker's voice.
also sir the alliens are like squirrels
That's *Mrs* President! Thank you!
Pretty accurate to real life tbh
It's sad how "It doesn't totally suck" has become a good thing for a movie.
This movie was fun, I was on the edge of my couch and I loved the designs of the aliens
Yeah it’s sad.
@@JonathanGaeta watch edge of tomorrow cause it’s better.
Sigh.
But it does totally suck. It sucks major balls. It's B.A.D. bad. The wording "but enjoyable" is straight bs. It's garbage
It's interesting how these types of movies are making a comeback. People are willing to overlook the flaws just to have some fun action with awesome CGI and minimum politics. Take a hint, Hollywood.
Minimum? It had plenty of politics,people just stoped noticing them. Want some examples?
@@Neyreyan What? Muh global warming?
You are describing most movies that come out. Only people like you and Anita sarkeesian need to see agendas everywhere. Come to reality.
I liked it cause its one of the few movies in a while that doesn't completely shit on fathers. Even his Dad with Vietnam era PTSD finds a way home in the end.
I fell asleep both times I tried to watch it.
I love the use of the “You Serious?” meme for a movie JK Simmons is also in 😂
What are you doing here
Glad to know that the AK Guy is a Critical Drinker enjoyer.
Man the Ak 50 is coming along nicely. Can't wait to see the full furnished prototype
WOLVERINES!!!
I subscribed to you. Let’s hope you don’t get disappeared like FPSRussia
Hey look - a strong, yet still feminine, female character. Now that's a unicorn.
You mean the Female Alien? 😜
Was about to like, but I see it has exactly 69 already. Have my comment instead.
What, you mean the only 2 military leaders (one a tiny female minority) in the clips? See boiling the frog social conditioning does work! lol
@@shigeminotoge4514 They broke it 😐
@Thom Hagan the daughter was only a major and was in a scientific role which is very different from a major who is commanding combat units. I don't remember if we ever find out the rank of the one who time travels in the beginning but she was mostly just a liaison between the actual military leadership in the future and contemporary governments and militaries. my point here is that neither one of those characters were really in any sort of significant military leadership role one of my issues with the movie was that we never got to see something like a future high command meeting, it would have been nice to have a 5 or 10 minute scene where combat commanders are planning the last stand, perhaps they could have used that opportunity to squeeze in an explanation for the time machine managing to survive long enough
It is refreshing to see a male lead that cares about his family and will literally die to save them.
I mean, we have Harrison Ford.
And many other films that depict that very same thing. I wouldn't really call it "refreshing". It's pretty formulaic. But it is nice to see.
@@raymondkravitz2001 I think the fact you used Harrison Ford kind of proves his point about it being refreshing?
Didn't we had the movie "Nobody" with a similar premise to this? This type of premise isn't really "refreshing", unless you don't watch that many movies/tv shows.
Toretto: Did someone said "family"?
@@raymondkravitz2001 Ah yes, so formulaic, that almost no movie or show does it.
Look, I'm gonna be honest. Watching a movie hero literally fistfight an alien to fucking death is exactly what I want to see in a movie. 10/10 would watch again.
That was awesome
He had a claw in his hand. Hence, not a fist fight.
@@orppranator5230 🤓
You too?
It was so satisfying to watch that scene
The movie felt a little like the single player campaign of a FPS.
Yeah this film would probably make for a better video game than a film. I’d play a FPS spin-off of this film. Still a decent movie
Cod: Alien warfare
@@gregoryl.levitre9759 if given to an incompetent Developer/Publisher
@@Iianator Halo: The first encounter
Well did the single player campaign entertain you?
I really enjoyed Yvonne Strahovski; it was like watching Brie Larson if she had a personality.
A prettier more talented version of Brie
Yeah, I remember Yvonne from Dexter and thought she was pretty hot.
You should watch her another flicks like Killer Elite, Manhattan Night and Angel of Mine
@@Tommykey07 Chuck. Criminally underrated action comedy series. She was a CIA agent honeypoting a geek. Also had Adam Baldwin in it
She's Australian, and therefore instantly gets like a +5 awesomeness boost.
I loved the volcano kid. He finally got to talk about volcanoes and save the world at the same time.
I actually laugh at this scene.
😂😂😂😂 that's my boy too
This was a refreshing way to show why diversity is good. Its not just to make everyone feel good about themselves, it is also better to live in a society’s that encourages everyone to be different because we never know what might matter in the future.
Imagine how he's going to feel going forward.
That's got to be the biggest confidence boost you can get.
The scene was ridiculously stupid though
"is this what movies used to be like?"
Hell yes
No
@@Bubbles99718 yes
Props to a 66 year old J. K Simmons who looked jacked af in that movie
Damn he was 66-wow
Yea! Vietnam guy helps save everyone
@@nickjohnson1424 I actually Wikipedia'd him because I've known his work all the way back to Oz, and was asking myself how is it that this guy doesn't age? 😂
@@thelastspartan5377 Lol Botox my man Botox
Props to the doc that gave him the naughty sauce
The least realistic thing about this film is a party in the USA centered around watching a soccer game.
.. and black scientists.
@@Mobus_ What's that supposed to mean? 👀
@@TanisC Not allowed to speak truth so just have my voice suppressed, oppressor.
I mean I’m from the US and many people watch the world cup
@@impg8801 yeah they’re called immigrants
I was reading interviews with the director and Pratt and they would like to make more movies looking into the whitespikes and have more world building for the alien race.
sounds liek the begining of a fan-loved and frikin fun universe, hollywood can keep all their woke-shit movies so long as we have ppl making movies like this one imo!
@@naomy1701 until producers feel it's too white and too masculine...
@@MrlspPrt next movie is definitely gonna be like that.
I liked the movie, but if doesn't need a sequel IMO. It's a decent, self-contained story that ended well.
Sounds like this is gonna be a sci fi f&f
Best line I’ve heard on TH-cam in a long time: "seems totally obvious to anyone who doesn’t need help dressing themselves in the morning ". Bravo, Drinker
This movie just confirmed Yvonne Strahovsky should've been Capt Marvel from day 1.
God damn that is so true
Truer words have never been spoken
I second that.
That's what my buddy said!! I see it now.
Disagree. From the moment Black Widow was introduced in Iron Man 2, I thought Yvonne should have been cast for the role. She's Polish Australian, so she can pull off a convincing Eastern European accent by virtue of the fact she can speak Polish fluently (even if Russian and Polish are two different languages), and she can emote a thousand times better than SJ.
It was fun enough. The most unrealistic scene was so many americans watching soccers.
How dare you call it soccer??? It's called foo... Ha! Just kidding.
How could you say something so brave, yet so true.
I was thinking the same thing!! They chose to show up in the middle of the World Cup?! Well, then the USA would definitely not get the memo.
What I watched this movie and it got to the part when they were having a football World cup party my first thought was that I have never heard of such a thing in the United States. I've been to plenty of super bowl parties, but the number of people I have known IRL who are into soccer could be counted on one hand
@@johngolden3714 🤣🤣🤣
It’s a sad state of affairs where a movie is enjoyable simply because it isn’t woke.
It is, but at the same time, it is just a dumb fun movie that knows it's a dumb fun movie.
This is what movies should be, plain entertainment.
You can have deep meaningfull mesages in movies sure, but normally they are the wrong type that makes normal people want to vomit what they ate 4 months ago
I just hope John wick and Fast and furious doesn't end up woke.
@@MachoMan_Vert nah f&f has been going on for so long to just insert messages in it in the last installment would be weird and John wick is made by good people with good intentions
@@MachoMan_Vert
The most "woke" F&F was the latest movie where Nikki Minaj was running an all girl SWAT team. This actually wasn't even woke, it's was just normal F&F brand of hilarious, because NM doesn't look like the type to run one.
@Siboniso Buthelezi Oh shit, that's even worse. Cardi B is both a scumbag, & even worse in the role than NM, considering NM despite not having a license, at least still had some interest in cars.
So many of ur vids are my thoughts coming out of ur mouth. It’s scary! Keep it up!
I love Swoozie
Hi swoozie big fan, how you been?
Subscribed to your channel, love your work. Nice to see you on C.D.
Never thought I'd see a Swoozie comment on a drinker video, strange collision, but I'm not disappointed! Love your vids man!
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You can tell he enjoyed the movie because his "go away now" didn't sound depressed and tired.
I'm glad that majority of people enjoyed it. And that's honestly what we all need, movies that made for entertainment, not a lecturing session.
Right?!
@@ahmadhakim535 Even if it is shit. Its way more entertaining than a lecture.
When things were at their very worst:
2 Suns, Cross in the sky, 2 comets will collide = don`t be afraid - repent, accept Lord`s Hand of Mercy.
Scientists will say it was a global illusion.
Beaware - Jesus will never walk in flesh again.
After WW3 - rise of the “ man of peace“ from the East = Antichrist - the most powerful, popular, charismatic and influential leader of all time. Many miracles will be attributed to him. He will imitate Jesus in every conceivable way.
Don`t trust „pope“ Francis = the False Prophet
- will seem to rise from the dead
- will unite all Christian Churches and all Religions as one.
One World Religion = the seat of the Antichrist.
Benedict XVI is the last true pope - will be accused of a crime of which he is totally innocent.
"The schism in My Church will be broken into different stages"
Sunday, 20 October 2013
The Book of Truth
It was a bad movie... but occasionally had entertaining moments. Overall? It was a giant meh.
It was fun, for sure. I think they missed the boat not having more J.K. Simmons, especially interacting with Chris Pratt. Their scenes were some of the best in the movie.
All movies can use more JK. Seriously, not jk but JK.
I got the feeling there may have been more scenes but they got cut. Their interaction during the last combat scenes seemed more than a little bit too familiar for the prolonged estrangement the movie previously showed between them.
Well there’s not a single part of the plan that the future people have that makes any sense but fuck it
@@curtisnucmed On a J.K. note, if you haven't seen it, watch his SF series, Counterpart, available on Prime. Only 2 seasons (and canceled during its original TV run to make way for women oriented programs) but he's amazing in it.
the dialogue during the final battle was cringe inducing annd hard to sit through
Haven't seen it, but I like it for Chris Pratt who's not afraid to give PC-culture a constant middle finger.
Lol, what are you talking about? A tv and marvel film actor that’s giving the middle finger? When exactly?
@@cannedbollocks He's polite about it not disrespectful. During his award acceptance speech he even praised Jesus, asked kids to stop fooling around, to work harder, to pray and believe etc etc. He at the end of the day just seems like a genuine good guy and a hard working man. He hasn't been cancelled yet because he isn't political nor has he ever tried to be disrespectful in trying to be funny. He's just living his life peacefully away from all the toxicity.
@@siddarth3955 he's Christian, I had read comments about burning temples, so he'll be cancelled soon.
Wait, so you DO care about actors opinions and their agendas?
@@MrlspPrt Christians and Muslims won't ever get cancelled.
Anyone else extraordinarily happy with seeing Yvonne Strahovski in big movies, and also crushing the role?
She was fantastic in this. She needs to stop wasting her talents in garbage like Handmaid's Tale and get more of these kinds of roles.
She scowled her way through every scene with the emotional depth of a jcpenney manaquin
Lol, this movie didn't even pass cinema
@@alqaeda7040 at the beginning it shouldn't have even been released in cinemas as originally it only would release on amazon but I think after airing on amazon they decided to also release it in cinema. And on amazon it was the most viewed movie for I think a couple of days to a week which is why sequel is coming
"For once, I don't feel the need to drown my sorrows with a bottle of toilet duck"
Fuckin LOL
BREAK OUT THE TURPENTINE!
Ah no, not Toilet Duck again! You know what that does to you! You’ll be seeing pink elephants again!
Quaaaaaaack 🚽 🦆
Honestly I would Rather Have A Dumb Movie Than a Woke one, because at least it doesn’t lecture you and Let’s you enjoy something that doesn’t feel like Pushing Agendas for the sake of Agendas
Coulda sworn there is a very distinct climate change message in there though, like please don't f up the planet for future generations, work together to find a solution now, yada yada yada?
A dumb movie knows it’s dumb, a woke movie is a dumb movie that thinks it’s smart.
@@walmanthegreat Yes It can have a message but
subtlety is a gift let the audience get a clue on it
The Tomorrow War reminded me of the old 90s action movies like Armageddon and Independence Day. Just a big summer blockbuster with some fun action and humor. Wish we had more of these tbh
@@justsomeguywholovesberserk6375 the obvious global warming bit went over most peoples heads , we are now in a paradox.
One thing I loved was the desperation of the future soldiers in every scene they were in like the queen extraction every soldier was immediate in their response and throwing themselves at the drones even if it only meant seconds of time or the heli pilot immediately swerving to intercept the flying drones it really felt like humanity's last stand
But that made it more stupid. The lack of proper decision making or planning of any form. The willingness to throw away non replaceable resources and screw themselves even more. Also there is no way that the creatures can apparently teleport because there is no way they could have arrived there in time if they had to travel on foot. And if they had effective tranquilizers they could have just used though from the start. Furthermore they didn't need the live queen. They could have just blown her up and collected her remains. Every scene was stupid beyond belief.
Dude I loved this movie. You are right on the money about the family dynamic and the bravery and protecting role of the father. Great stuff. I really miss aspirational male leads nowadays.
Has anyone had the feeling that Yvonne Strahovski playing Muri would have been a far better Captain Marvel?
Holy hells, YES.
Now that you say it, hell yes!
She would be great as Miranda Lawson in Mass Effect
I mean, you aren't wrong. But Bill Murray would've made a more watchable Captain Marvel.
@@SP-pn7xx Daim, now when you said it, I'm actually wondering whether they didnt do a motion capture of Miranda based on her. The resemblence is striking! ^^' (bar the hair)
The bar for modern movies has dropped so low that for a movie to be recommended it just has to 1) not have an agenda and 2) exist.
A bit like the love for Battle Angel Alita. A pretty average movie that we all enjoyed because at least it didn't treat us like shit.
Haha yep I've been saying this for a while about certain other mediocre movies
Battle Angel Alita is a rare case where film is actually better than the book.
@@theeffete3396 if you love weird looking cg, i guess.
@@zeropoint546 Dont know, but that movie was good in my pinion, she (it) was cool, likable character, also story was okeish.
The only thing I disagree with is about Dan and his struggles from a normal life. I feel exactly like he does, and I connected to his entire story . You wouldn’t think I was an unhappy man but we never know what’s in someone’s head
not every films needs to blow you away. i enjoyed this film
This would’ve been a good movie by 90’s standards. Not a classic, but will definitely age better than Captain Marvel
This will be a cult classic like aliens. Kids watching it before they are really old enough.. etc.
@@d1agram4 Eeeeh let’s not get too crazy here…
A film about a drunken toxic Taco Bell shit sliding out of someone's ass would be better than Captain Marvel. Easier to watch too.
It's better than black widow
No, not at all.
"It's not gonna win any oscars, that's for sure". Is that meant to be derogatory there Drinker? Put it on the poster in 2021, it''ll break a billion.
Not winning an Oscar might be the best compliment you can give a movie these days.
It puts men in a positive light, it'll be crucified by all the Portland Land Whales.
@@thefitnerd5116 I'll give a compliment to the first movie that actively goes out of its way not to be nominated. I watched Dr No the other day, the credits were 20 seconds long, I miss that. No disrespect to the crew, who I know care more about being paid than being listed. Do many people I know have worked on xyz and been uncredited and could not care less.
@@RealGateGuardian it's not the positive they take issue with, just the light. Fundafeminists all agree Men should not be seen and get hurt.
@@Dc-alpha i know. Sexism 101
the main thing i can’t stand is how horribly setup their carbines are
Yeah they really went for aesthetics over practicality. Should have gone in with AR10s or battle rifles of some kind
@@tlshortyshorty5810 or just nuke Miami from orbit... it's the only way to be sure
@@Swordfish393 you had the wrong idea to the wrong Florida man buddy
I like the fact that you're honestly brutal in your review. Shows consistency. I hope that more films have the guts to be fun.
Also Yvonne Strahovski is Miranda in Mass Effect 2 and 3.
Always my love interest as Cmdr Shepard
@@kennethprice8710 Yeah baby, my main love interest in Mass Effect trilogy. Call me bias, but I really love her acting in this movie.
@@kanatagideon5431
Her and Chris Pratt elevated this movie to really good,their scenes together gave this film emotional weight.
@@kennethprice8710 I call this movie "a glorified B movie" because of them... and I say this not as an insult because B movies are generally cult movies...
Me and my brother screamed, “THEY FLY NOW??” when the monsters chased the helicopter like flying squirrels. 🤣
Haha me too!
Also said that about when they swam to the base. Like... wut.
Your profile pic perfectly matches your comment! :D
I lost my shit at that moment lol. These aliens are unstoppable ll
THEY FLY NOW.
This was the happiest "go away now" we've heard in a long time.
This was one of the few movies I've watched in awhile that I really enjoyed and want to watch again.
after 10 years of avoiding hollywood movies i watched this edge of tommorow and love and monsters.. and strangly i liked them.. all of them a bit dumb but great.. just like hollywood from the past.. you sit and you enjoy.. no need fo all that brain activity.. i also love that Yvone or how ever she is called.. a very good actress besides her good looks
I feel the same way as you about the movie, but I have to say that the staircase scene where we first encounter the White Spikes was one of the best creature introduction scenes I think I have ever watched.
That scene in particular had excellent pacing, and actually unnerved me, which almost no other movie has, even horror ones.
"Is this what movies used to be like?" That was exactly my thoughts coming away from this movie. I didn't realize how on edge I usually am in preparation for some dumbass lecture until I caught myself actually having fun.
If you ignore all the logic holes and lack of intelligence, it was a fine movie for an Amazon release. If I went to the theatre and paid full price I would had some bad things to say, but from a streaming service? It clicked enough boxes for me to find it enjoyable to watch on a weekend.
@@chalion8399 Indeed. Like the drinker said, you can have a field day picking this movie apart. But in this landscape of wokeism, this was one of the best movie I've watched in years. This and "The Father".
Yes, that!!!! That's what I was feeling, thanks for putting it into words.
@justsomeguyhere jesus there are so many snobs like you , lot of yall must be so bitter and sad if you won't TRY to enjoy a dumb movie , you just sound pretentious when all you do is critique like people care about your opinion , nothing wrong with saying a movie is bad when it clearly is but don't try to make people dislike it if they don't
@@exilemorin04 Or maybe instead of watching dumb movies I'll only watch good ones because I don't have a thousand years to rot away watching low quality shit?
I'd disagree with Drinker in that this movie does have a message, it's that we need more scientists and doctors and engineers. From Chris Pratt's daughter being an MIT grad, to the volcano boy, to Sam Richardson's character, the message I saw being pushed was that we should strive for more of those intellectual roles. However, it's never lecturing, nor does it go the normal Hollywood route of downplaying the military, it doesn't talk down to anyone. It also acknowledged PTSD (again, without being overbearing). It was a fun little scifi flick
yea. there were messages here, they just didnt beat you over the head with them, and they never really detracted from the movie. I really liked this movie for just being what it was...an entertaining sci fi action flick that never took itself too seriously.
There's a growing movement for removing the "Disorder" part and just calling it PTS as way to destigmatize the condition.
@@taliefer16 It's funny that a movie can be like a breath of fresh air, when people aren't trying to force things down your throat.
@@taliefer16 Exactly. It's okay for there to be a message behind a movie, but the message can't BECOME the movie. That's where I draw the line.
@@taliefer16 I thought it had a very strong message of family being what matters, with both the father-daughter and son-father relationship, with a straight white man being in the middle of both. Compared to most films to come out of Hollywood, I'd say that's a better message than you'd usually find.
You missed the actually really creative way they get around the Grandfather paradox in this movie - they use future knowledge to gather a database of eligible recruits in the future, the main criteria being the recruits have to have died by the time the invasion started. I'm assuming they also check to make sure the recruit isn't going to cure cancer or do something equally noteworthy in the few years between 2022 and their death
one thing they didn't touch on was how when the link was destroyed it left behind the people from the future who hadn't been born, but since the link was destroyed they wouldn't be able to go back to the future before they were born in the past, so essentially there is going to be a paradox soon after the time where the movie ended.
@@BoulderBoulder_no, because all of them died during the final battle when Dorian blew up the alien ship
But that DOES NOT AVOID THE PARADOX. The very fact they reached backwards in time creates the paradox because in the original timeline no one reached backwards in time. AND that does not mean those people would not have given birth between point A and point B. FURTHERMORE you are forgetting the Butterfly Effect. You don't have to be alive to change the timeline. If you utter word or even just breath that affects the future. So the fact that people were removed from the timeline years before they stopped breathing means they altered the timeline.
@@GeorgeMonet I'm pretty sure it just created a parallel universe that branched off from the point when the humans first came back through time
The film may not be perfect, but hey, at least it ain't "The Last Knight" or "The Last Jedi".
The Last Knight opening is masterpiece tho, i hope they make medieval movie
This movie taught me that future weapons carry unlimited ammo….
Isn't that every movie gun
And future guns don't have ejection ports, the empty casings just phase through the dust covers
The future also uses short barrels(less velocity) for bullet resistant aliens. For a hilarious take on the weapons used check out Brandon Herrera’s breakdown. I think he’s also the pinned comment in this comment section
Edit: not the pinned comment, just the first one listed when I clicked on the video
To be fair, there were a couple occasions when they went to their sidearms, presumably because their rifle was empty. But yeah, how hard would it have been to throw in a mag change here or there?
Maybe they're using Mass Effect guns, that fire grains of sand at 90 percent of lightspeed? 10,000 rounds in a magazine or so?
This film, reminds me a lot of Battle: Los Angeles. Think too long about it and you realize that it's objectively terrible, but take it a face value, and you will be entertained. That's all we want- entertainment, is that so hard? This movie deserves to be successful, if only to show Hollywoke that the money is there to be made, if they could only pull their heads out of their asses.
I liked battle LA. 'Who's naming dogs these days' still makes me chuckle.
@@tdog5035 Yeah, it's everything I wanted in a military Sci fi movie.
I like Battle: LA too.
More battle of LA would be nice
Battle LA is still the only movie I’ve been to that had a standing ovation at the end of it. Crazy huh?
It was fun! Reminded me of watching something like Armageddon or Independence Day.
Drinker, you absolutely HAVE to do Netflix’s new “Masters of the Universe.” Hint: there’s a reason why it’s not called “He-man and the Masters of the Universe.”
The '87 film was also titled without "He-man"
@@Uncle_cheeto If it stars Dolph Lundgren, it's guaranteed to be good.
He has
@Jeff Bridger I thought it was, just as cheesy and fun as the og
Still 10 times better than the new Black Widow movie.
Black widow movie is so bad, they try to mimic action scene from winter soldier but it not even close, i bet 100% people watch it just because they love natasha
BW is in Thor 2 territory…saw it once ☑️ now show me something I’ll rewatch, please?!
It really isn't any better at all. Same mindless, pointless action movie. Must be that anti Disney agenda clowding your judgment. Disney dumb movie bad! Other company dumb movie good!
@Darin St. George that’s insulting to Thor 2
Thor 2 is underrated anyway
@@fullmetalb5241 but black widow tries to be more than it is and tries to be serious but fails and ends up as a dumb action movie anyway, the tomorrow war knows its dumb and acts like it
I remember watching this and saying “This is fucking stupid, but I like it.”
Its all in the name. "Entertainment industry."
Ya I really dont understand the black guy that's the comic. Relief I cringed everytime they showed him
@@jakebaca264 he was really cringe at first but actually became likeable which usually doesn’t happen
Literally my thoughts upon watching it.
actually thats very much possible tho, somethimes a movie can be literally so dumb, and stupid, that its awesome!
If this movie had ended when the protagonist had come back and seen his daughter at the 1 hour and 30 mark I would have rated it higher because the movie felt it had reached it's climax.
@Amer Hamad But he'd have prevented the war by getting the toxin mass produced.
This is the best movie I've seen in a long time. That tells you a lot about today's Hollywood
The movie may not make any sense at all, but it does prove that putting Chris Pratt into anything will make people want to see it.
Hell it’s even getting a sequel.
Wait it is??
Yeah it’s already been confirmed, idk why really but I’m not opposed to it either.
Idiocracy is upon us then.Officially.
@@RogueFox2185 Feels weird considering this movie felt like it could have been split easily into two or three films and been the better for it. Still was entertained enough for it though.
to be honest, he salvaged it... dude is a likable actor!
I really enjoyed this movie. They should have released it on Father’s Day it would have been the perfect time.
"Liberals" In my country hate this movie
We should make it an international men's day thing. Have as many men as possible tune into it, or go to theatres with their son's to watch it on 19th November. It might annoy a few people, but I'm certain we can roar louder than they squeak, if it comes to that.
You know how horrible it is to find really good father and daughter movies that are recent. It's sad to tell my daughter that there's not that many when she wants to watch a movie with her favorite person, her father. I mostly have to look for the movies in the past. Glad this movie came out.
@@ChiefJoey5971 what country do you live in?
@@delta2372 probably America? Fathers are shit on here. There is an entire movement now that pushes a lack of fathers for one race.
I just like how with this setup, we can just completely side-step my common minor pet peeve of "somehow we won against a race who's supposed to be way smarter and more technologically capable, and there isn't a truly satisfying and believable reason why."
I just like the white spikes because of their individual features and sound designs.
I think a wise man once said: "You either die a classic dumb action movie or live long enough to see your franchise become woke."
🧐 Chris said this didn’t he?
I liked how Dad protected his daughter. That’s a good message to any would-be or current Dad.
Family
As a dad this makes me smile as frankly dad's don't get anywhere near the same respect of the mum. I was stopped from seeing my daughter due to the mother and not any problems. Alot of single dads killed themselves are getting treated like garbage by the system and mothers. I nearly did too for 2 years I wanted to get hit by a bus .
@@dr69_420 Maybe you should speak to someone.
Don’t bottle it up dude. Don’t be ashamed.
Take it easy my man. Hope it gets better for you.
@@dr69_420 what's sad is that not a lot know about it and cares. My boyfriend (an American) told me that his grandfather and uncle killed themselves because of their cheating wives. And he also got cheated on by a girlfriend of 1 year (now ex), who had the audacity to say that she's pregnant with his child when he wasn't. He was scared of getting into relationships again until he met a crazy Asian girl (me). He says he's not ever talking to an American woman again lol.
@@dr69_420 shit!, hang on there man, just keep loving your kids
One other positive of this movie that you didn't mention is the alien design -I think the VFX artists and the design team came up with a really neat looking alien 👌. If the aliens had looked dumb or boring, that also could have easily totally sunk the whole film.
Man this was a throwback to good old fashioned action movies I absolutely loved it .
Battle: Los Angeles was a film I liked. Just a straight forward film, reminds me of this film
Ahh yes..pity there was no sequel.
@@iamblade7862 I “think” the studio that did the effects worked on their own movie; skyline while doing that one.
Only thing is that its a pity they were trying to save L.A.
I feel the same about the first Skylines movie as well!
Battle: Los Angeles was really underrated. It actually seems like they consulted the Marine Corps and rest of the military when making the film. It was pretty tactically sound for a conventional modern Marine squad/team/platoon compared to most films.
It wasn´t woke, even if the cast was truly "multicultural". That´s more than one can expect these days...
This is what ‘anti wokeness ‘ does to you: it transforms you into a shell of your past self, only capable of seeing diversity quotas behind every decision. The anti woke have become as annoying and narrow minded as the woke, which is saying something.
K, but he’s right though
@@Hamlet92100 it's glaringly obvious when a film is trying to lecture and make a statement about racial and sexual politics, it's obnoxious and sours otherwise good stories. Tomorrow War, Alita, and Blade Runner 2049 are praised in recent Sci fi because despite having a "diverse" cast its not a vehicle for present day social commentary. Which for the past 5 years, *not*making the minority members of your cast into empty vessels for social commentary had become a statement unto itself. It's pandering and insulting to everyone. And claiming you don't see it or don't care is smug and disingenuous
Now that you mentioned the diverse cast - yeah, you are right - I completely missed that while watching the movie. It was done so organically and felt absolutely natural - just us (humans) vs. them (aliens).
I like how they portrayed the Fathers too - one was a nice dad, the other was a complete A-hole, yet both were willing to sacrifice themselves to save their children. This is what most fathers are like.
@@Hamlet92100 And wokeness turns one into a fascist racist/sexist, incapable of seeing past the surface of skin colour or sexual orientation. Look, if the ten best writers available are ten obese black lesbians, then by all means hire the ten obese black lesbians - why bring insignificant hiring 'qualities' such as sex orientation and skin colour, isn't that racist and sexist? Anyway, such diversity hiring is visible in the lower quality, self-obsessed, misandric work it produces, which is perfectly normal when hiring criterions are anything but talent.
Sure, sure, we can ride along with a few of these 'statements', like benevolent parents cheering up the clumsy efforts of their kids, but don't ask us - and I am a real progressive guy - to LARP along all the way into mediocrity for racism and sexism's sake. The woke actively destroys our sociologic relations, and while I admit some go way too far, fighting this movement is the right thing to do.
I actually ended up really enjoying this movie, I’d say the first half of it was OK at best but I think as it went on the back half of the movie itself could’ve just been a standalone great movie. And as usual Chris Pratt was phenomenal!
The monsters in this movie are arguably what makes this movie cool. They look badass.
To the movie's credit, it had one of the best alien introductions that I've ever seen. The clicking, the shapes moving around in the darkness, the scientists impaled on spikes. Even the reveal was creepy and terrifying. Perfectly set the tone of horror that it was going for. It's a shame that was the best part of the movie.
What I didn't like was earlier the monster could turn over a jeep but couldn't kill two men earlier. If they were consistent, maybe it could have been slightly better but nonetheless I liked it
I was really hoping they'd do more with that 'clicking' the black guy talked about in therapy. It could have been central to the tale, really adding some gravitas, fear, horror, worry, etc. Sadly, they dropped it like a hot rock because roars were "mo betta", I guess.
You can’t not love Chris Pratt. One of the last charismatic Hollywood actors
Yes. Watching James McAvoy disassemble a keyboard with Chris's face in the movie Wanted was always one of my favorites.
Hollywood's greatest Chris
He’s charismatic, has moral standards and a straight up guy. Hollywood are repulsed by this kind of star when it’s very existence is owed to them by actors like Chris Pratt. This was one of the only recent releases I’ve watched all the way through. No preaching, virtue signalling or self flagelation. Great stuff👍
Nah, he's all right but I definitely don't love him. That doesn't meant y'all shouldn't, of course. But, he's no Keanu Reeves.
And his FIL is bad AF too.
Actually this film is metaphorical in itself. The time travel, the aliens, etc... are just the plot device to move the main theme and point, it is a story about regret, 2nd chance, redemption, and family.
The tomorrow War is a brain-melt movie. You can put it on, look at the big explosions and flashy lights and still get the jist if the plot and enjoy it. I like it
The plot has too many Holes, but it was really very enjoyable.
It was not enjoyable. It’s boring. Every time I sit through it I fall asleep 😴
It's not perfect definitely, what potholes did you find?
So like your mum.
i think you're supposed to call them "women" these days.
Time travel plots usually are like that I’ve found. They inherently raise logic issues, even the best ones.
Not to mention that this movie introduced a creature that definitely rivals the zenomorph in its utter ferocity
I think the white spikes were the best part of the movie, the way they moved and attacked was absolutely spectacular. I enjoyed watching them despite the horrific ways they killed
I thought that, too. Put this queen worth the queen from Alien and see who wins.
@@RebekahMartinModernJaneAusten wouldn't that be a fun battle to watch? I'd pay for that honestly
That's one of the aspects that makes the movie fun, they absolutely nailed the alien monster aspect.
*Xenomorph
I think like Chris Pratt had essentially said, it was all to return to a sense of normalcy, to be able to make a movie anyone could enjoy without having to worry about this or that. And all and all I think they succeeded. I said myself when I first saw the trailer that the movie looked cheesy as fuck but hey it managed to essentially do what it was meant to be, just a fun normal stupid action flick that helped to return us to that normal feeling, like there was an actual action movie that we could watch and just enjoy and ignore anything too negative or too positive.
Part of the story was about the ice caps melting.... and there WASN'T a preachy lecture about it all being avoidable and our own fault! Amazing
The message of this movie is kinda cute and wholesome.
fitting for a chris pratt film
Interstellar mixed with Independence Day and any random global warming movie.
@@leeolie3728so it does have THE MESSAGE even though it doesn't beat you over the head with it.
"In the Kingdom of the blind, the one-eyed man is king." sums it up.
It’s really sad that not being “woke” can elevate a movie so much these days. But it’s true! Any movie like this will always be good in my book for keeping politics out and just entertaining me and allowing me to escape.
It's fun and not at all pushy about it, but the entire plot of the movie is "in 30 years global warming kills us all, so you people living now have to stop it". There's nothing wrong with using it as a plot device for a fun story, but also not worth overlooking the underlying message.
Yep. You nailed it. An imperfect action sci fi movie without a heavy handed message, a happy ending and a decent cast. No wonder I liked it. Hello Hollywood?
I get what you're saying about Chris's character but I'm glad there's a movie about a service member/first responder/ect (hell even a normal dad), that isn't a divorced, depressed, failure of a parent like so many movies nowadays.
I mean technically he was in the future, no?
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This is what irked me about early reviews I read of the film. Chris’s character walked out of the family, and that’s not hinted at with the guy we see. If he was portrayed as a douche bag who’s then redeemed, then ok, that’s a story arc…and probably not one Chris Pratt wants to play.
Yeah but he didn’t know that. And he does redeem himself anyway.
There's an easy explanation for why the Pratt we see isn't a drunk, divorced, depressed walkout....*because it hasn't happened yet in their timeline*
The 3 best bits for me were a) the complex but positive portrayal of fatherhood(as you already pointed out), b) the daughter having an interest in science and her parents encouraging it. My own daughter is very similar, so that's more of a personal connection and c) the scene where the two civilians, with no training or prior experience, volunteer to hang back and hold the line to try and give the rest of the team a chance to escape. This kind of everyman heroism is what the cultural and political elite sneer at nowadays and we desperately need more stories that feature it.
C: Really struck me immidiately. Part of it was they were the spotters teamed together. When one went down the other wouldn't leave his side and they held off the enemy as long as they could. Life and death situation can form bonds quickly. That and a certain amount of human decency.,
Yooo that C point tho.
I'm fostering in my daughter and interested in domestic duties because she wants to be a mother when she grows up.
@@dbsommers1 Didn’t recognize this. Thx for pointing it out y’all.
I too found the portrayal and exploration of fatherhood in this movie to be surprisingly meaningful.
Revisiting this review, Will missed a point in the movie where Dan and Charlie wonder between themselves why the conscripts are older people while the soldiers themselves are young. They conclude that it's to avoid any temporal paradoxes. This is coupled with the fact that Adult Muri revealed that Dan died prior to the war which is why the future soldiers confirmed his death certificate as being seven years from that point in the present when he is officially conscripted.
It's not really a plot hole when thinking about the people from the present being erased from the timeline if they die in the future because the movie already showed that the conscripted civilians have already died at some time during the thirty years prior to the White Spikes launching their attack. A prime example of this is Dorian, who volunteered for his third tour, when he revealed to Dan that he has terminal cancer and would rather die fighting the White Spikes than sitting at home waiting for a slow, painful death.
This movie, although not the best, provided a breath of fresh air. My lady and I watched it and it had us in suspense each time the Whitespikes were shown. It was an awesome watch and in certain instances I almost cried. When Forrester didn't get the job and you saw him sitting with his daughter contemplating his life, that scene really resonated with me. As a man, you always want to provide wholesomely for your family.
"Damn, a movie that dares to portray fathers as caring and self-sacrificing" -- The Accountant (2016)!
2016 feels worlds away.
Thanks for suggesting!
@@Katya_Lastochka , it was pretty much the same politics in the mainstream cinema back then as well...
@@japanisch508 , you're welcome! It's a very good movie and quite original for a Hollywood mainstream flick nowadays.
Avengers Endgame and Guardians of the Galaxy Vol 2. as well.
Critical Drinker: "Now you might be thinking."
Me: "How little you know me."
.....thinking?
Forget that. People will expect it all the time
It's the best movie in nearly a decade. 3 out of 10 stars
YOU SERIOUS?! Never gets old😂
The movie had the same problem that all modern action and sci-fi movies have - it felt like a video game. Apart from that, it was a breath of fresh air because of the lack of identity politics and feminism being shoved down the viewer's throat.
80% of our military is minority/female ( other than the main character )??? Oh yeah, no identify politics here. carry-on
@@ronniejones1425 The thing is, shockingly, they didn't politicize it and preach down to everyone for a change. It was just there, for the viewer to interpret as they saw fit, without any sermons.
@@ronniejones1425 thank you I'm glad I'm not the only one who noticed that
@Z. Michael Gehlke And they're correct. It is a low standard, just as the fact that it's a poorly made movie is a pretty low standard, as pointed out by The Drinker. I'm not saying it was good that they used the tactic. I'm saying that, in our current shitty cinematic climate, even a small improvement is just that - an improvement.
Maybe if you play a lot of video games. I don’t, so it felt like a movie w/ a lot of plot holes, that was still enjoyable to watch.
I watched it from start to end without betting an eye because it didn’t force American political agendas on me. Literally just a movie like back in the day.
Is that sarcasm??? It starts with the little girl being the (scientist)
Then half the street is black in what appeared to be the most middle class white neighborhood in america. Then the future humans arrive being lead by a mixed race woman, a black man an asian man and what looks like a butch lesbian specific identity you wouldn't wanna get wrong. No white men.
At this point i switched it off.
Not American agendas, left-wing agendas. Not the same thing. I know it's schematics but as an American, I do not wish to be associated with the clods in question.
Agree with you
@@covingtonrace1 still, white main character and the whites saved the world too. They have a woke quota to meet to stop
The film being canceled so they had to make concessions. It’s like a woke tax almost.
The best part is when the monster bites her arm off 😂 I keep thinking about it and it makes me laugh
Finally what we need: A movie that's fun to watch and doesn't lecture you
Like the sharknado movies
Sharknado was more enjoyable to me than TTW :( Yeah even the 5th one
Haven't seen one of those since about 2014 lol
I thought the same, and, surprisingly, enjoyed it so much that I have already watched it twice.
@@prele well said
This is exactly how I feel about “The Core”. A film that is just awful, yet I can’t help but enjoy it.
its great,wish it was abit longer in planet core part
Plot might be a little dumb but it was entertaining and there aren't many movies involving the earth's core so I forgive it. The cast was actually half decent too.
@@votpavel As contradictory as it sounds, I agree with you. I do think its great, even though there's so much wrong with it, the science is hilariously bad and full of errors. The logical part of me says its an awful film, and yet if I saw it on TV, it would be a no brainer to put it on, and i'd enjoy it. Every. Single. Time.
A guilty pleasure for me, i guess....
Hot pockets, man. Hot pockets.
@@itsDDDD the problem was is that they spend 30 extra minutes on useless shit when they portrayed the disasters...bird scene and fee more i forget.The part where they in that open area full of chrystals was so cool but too short,still good.
I reccomend space movie "sunshine" if you havent seen it yet, more recent "life" is good too
You can always tell if an actor has used (or been taught hiw to use) a gun by looking at their trigger arm, if its sticking out to the side, you know they've never been taught how, if its tucked in for stability, bingo. Chris Pratt knows how, that always helps my immersion
I liked this movie. The time travel plot issues are awful but the father, son, and daughter redemption arc hit me right in the feels. Unlike most of the other fast and the furious movies it's the first movie I've seen in a while where family MEANS something and bad fathers can find a way home.
I personally liked how they kind of "solved" possible time paradoxes. The soldiers of the past are trained by young future troopers, who haven't been born yet, they make sure that the civilians they conscript are dead in the future they'll travel to and they explain that you can only travel through the 2 "portals" they've created in the flow of time.
They say only 500,000 people are still left in the future. It's safe to bet almost anyone can be sent to the future
Consider that there are 3 timelines we know of.
One, which we will call Toxin, where the Toxin is successfully recreated and used to successfully kill the Whitespikes.
The second, which our Dan (universe 1) is sent to, where the Jumplink is destroyed but Muri and Dan create the toxin successfully.
And a third, hypothetical universe where they fail to create a toxin, causing Dan (originally from universe 2) to return to the second universe thinking Muri (universe 3) died for nothing, thereby estranging her and giving her the impetus to succeed in her own timeline.
See where I'm going with this?
@@aspenmgy Yes, that seems like a pretty big hole in the plot. Again, the weak writing to the rescue. They have lousy records in the future, and can't bring back just anyone in case they're among the few still alive? So they have to pick only those for whom records exist, which isn't many.
Oh dear God
But why do they send in random people with no training, at least give everyone they believe to be dead in the future some training… it’s like sending a person who’s only ever played football once, and then make him/her play in the Super Bowl 🤷🏼♂️
It's rare enough to get positive fatherhood models in action films these days, not just men in "paternity-adjacent" capacities but men being dads and wanting to actively be good dads at that. Coupled with the fun action scenes and the incredible creature design, I really liked TTW
positive? he risked everything to save his daughter that didnt matter nor exist if he saved the past... and he risked everyone in the past..... unsubbing from frinker, u all r idiots
@@JoseRamirez-dv5uo How did he do that?
"this was fun - is this what movies used to be like?"
i was l wondering the exact same thing after watching the movie
The movie held my attention for the entire run time - and personally it didn't feel like two and a half hours. It was fast, tense and exciting.
Yes, there were issues with the plot but I thought the character dynamic between Chris Pratt's character and Yvonne Strahovski was emotionally moving. Yvonne nailed the role and the relationship seemed real - that really sold the movie.
It has been a very long since a new release movie has captured and swept a viewer like myself up that you are having too much fun to care about the plot holes.
The action was fast and exciting and it's nice to see a movie focusing on entertainment and fun.
"Why not attack them with all the world's armies when they arrive, or use a nuclear device", nah that would be cheating.
Why not educate everyone immediately on the weak points of the enemy? You know, basic military strategy? Nope, the future generals have less military knowledge than an 8 year old Call of Duty player.
Nah it’ll be fine!
Cheesing the game too much
@@Paulafan5 Well, consider that the reason why the aliens are resilient is because of MAGIC. Yep, magic. Because in reality bullets will go through any animal. Physics in all.
So...spawncamping??
I'm convinced this was satire about the state of Hollywood action films. How many twist ending, deus ex machinas can there possibly be in one movie?!
There were a ton of shots fired off in this movie from the veteran gratitude to a father being a main part of the family and bread winner, I loved how they slid in these things or maybe I'm just looking too deep into it to find things to diss hollywoke with
Allllll of em.
@@WhyIsThisNecessary positive ending and redemption arcs. I loved it.
6:27 I will admit, when I watched the movie, and I saw that these mufukas could GLIDE (Gargoyles cartoon reference) I was like “ah nah, hell naw, we all gon die yo.” 😂
Pratt's main arc is realizing anyone (even himself) can be fallible and thus forgiving his father, and realigning his own priorities. If he was having trouble to begin with that would just make his initial rejection of his father hypocritical.