My wife gets angry at me - I get sad - I watch an ETOE video to cheer me up - I get inspiration for a new bike project - I start a new bike project and paint it - I present my new bike to my wife - my wife gets angry at me because I built another bike in additon to the 28 I already have - I get sad - (..)
yup women do that. just remember why you are painting and building these bikes.. cos it gives you pleasure and a sense of achievement keep up the good work my friend
Old school Martin always liked the effect But still find the crystal effect nicer Strange how people find it difficult All I say just keep practicing on sample boards like i do You'll get there
My problem with Crystal effects is that the urea water solution does not stay on the part. 1:1 ratio, few drops of ox gall liquid, I even lightly sanded the part down with 800 grit. This method is much simpler and easier! 🙌
How is it that you post this video just as I begin sanding down a bike frame to attempt a crystal effect paint job??? I don't even have to watch this video to know your work will turn out AMAZING as usual. I can't wait to see the end result.
awesome as usual. i did a test with citrus based household paint stripper verses a carbon fiber fishing rod, i found it had no effect on carbon fiber, might want to do a test sample on scrap tube. you might want to look in to custom fishing rod building, its another art form, but unknown outside of the fishing world.
One thing that definitely stops the crystal effect forming is too much humidity / moisture in the air. Works perfect every time in the heated booth and in summer but not great other times. From my personal experience
I think the most difficult step for crystal is to sand the surface to the correct roughness for the droplets to stay and spread on the frame. I always failed to make the solution to say on the surface (I already added oxen oil)
try to add 2-3 drops of dish soap and see if it helped to stay,last time i try it the crystals was good on the test sheet surface but total crap on the frame..i am trying to make low budget glow green/ glowing blue crystal effect with the same green blue hyper shift top coat but all the tools i have is a crappy 6$ airbrush and cheapest black spray can and spray lacquer ...and i failed crystal effect 3 times for now ..waiting for shift powder delivery and strong nerves for good proper sanding for 4th time…try,fail,improve till i master it and do the job ...🤞(or till i slap simple chameleon carbon fiber wrap if i surender😂 )
I would have just bought the Midnight Disco. No problem if the customer wanted a one of a kind paint job, it's fine to go that rout. But it makes no sense crapping on the salmon paint when the alternative factory color is both nice looking and pretty unique.
Hello, please do you know what color it is on the shimano Dura-Ace 9150 series components - derailleur, chainrings? For example, some color number, shade, etc. I also paint bicycle frames and refurbish components, but I can't find this color anywhere. It seems to me that it is a combination of some chrome color + candy color, or just colored chrome..... Thank you very much for your help.
I have a bare aluminium frame that I am thinking of painting (because it literally looks shitty with dirt and decals falling off). Question: If I were to apply a crystal layer, could I add additional layers of "crystal" to simulate the layered effects of opal? Not thinking of doing the entire bike, but a portion of the top-tube. Perhaps doing a base-layer, the Crystal, then layer of clear coating, layer of crystal , layer of clear coating?
Hey ETOE, is there anything that can prevent the lowering of the surface tension or something? I always get little water drops instead of an even coat..i ordered the exact same stuff you used via your links but the ochsengalle doesnt work for some reason, is measured everything with a fine scale so the mixture cant be the problem, any tips? Mfg Jan
okay so question is there a difference between spray can and spray gun painting and clear coating in the long term or are they both as durable in the long run.
I've noticed that you are not masking the BB, headset and suspension linkage holes / ferrules for blasting. Won't that cause some problems (especially for this pressfit BB where tolerances are very small)?
Welchen 2k Klarlack benutzt du zum selber anmischen? Bei 11:50 sieht man die zwei großen Kanister auf dem Tisch stehen, welchen Härter und Lack benutzt du da?
I don't quite understand, why my plastic wrap is always eroded by paint, and the paint dries very fast, it is completely different from the one in the video, what type of paint is this?
Kommt da noch die Demontage, Montage, Entlackung ,Verpackung,Versand, wenn ja wohin dazu? Oder wie bekomme ich den Rahmen beteigestellt? Um welches Rahmenmaterial handelt es sich überhaupt?
Love your videos, but I have to say that using purple accent lights in your studio often gives a completely false impression of the effect you have achieved, as at 11:15….
That's the weirdest way I've ever seen that technique done! Just spray the bike with a light, wet coat and clingfilm it straight off? Making more work for ya self! Would work way better too.
I like how you sit there and claim it’s so easy anyone can do it without special tools yet alls you use is special tools. Kinda ignorant if you ask me.
My wife gets angry at me - I get sad - I watch an ETOE video to cheer me up - I get inspiration for a new bike project - I start a new bike project and paint it - I present my new bike to my wife - my wife gets angry at me because I built another bike in additon to the 28 I already have - I get sad - (..)
yup women do that. just remember why you are painting and building these bikes.. cos it gives you pleasure and a sense of achievement keep up the good work my friend
My Always ask me when I Will sell it
😂just get another woman bro there's 4 billion of em...and the ones who love bikes are hotter than your wife
Turned out stunning.. as always.
Hello Martin, your work is beautiful ! I imagine your vidéos take you lot lot lot of time !!
This color is sick. I wish I had in my bike. Great video fantastic jobb.
Old school Martin always liked the effect
But still find the crystal effect nicer
Strange how people find it difficult
All I say just keep practicing on sample boards like i do
You'll get there
My problem with Crystal effects is that the urea water solution does not stay on the part. 1:1 ratio, few drops of ox gall liquid, I even lightly sanded the part down with 800 grit. This method is much simpler and easier! 🙌
How is it that you post this video just as I begin sanding down a bike frame to attempt a crystal effect paint job??? I don't even have to watch this video to know your work will turn out AMAZING as usual. I can't wait to see the end result.
awesome as usual. i did a test with citrus based household paint stripper verses a carbon fiber fishing rod, i found it had no effect on carbon fiber, might want to do a test sample on scrap tube. you might want to look in to custom fishing rod building, its another art form, but unknown outside of the fishing world.
Happy to see Blue Crappy Gun has its place on ETOE's workshop.
Beautiful design and artwork 🔥🤘
This guy rocks!
How much thinners goes into the 50g intercoat & 2g pearl? No thinners
Good job as always!
One thing that definitely stops the crystal effect forming is too much humidity / moisture in the air. Works perfect every time in the heated booth and in summer but not great other times. From my personal experience
I think the most difficult step for crystal is to sand the surface to the correct roughness for the droplets to stay and spread on the frame. I always failed to make the solution to say on the surface (I already added oxen oil)
try to add 2-3 drops of dish soap and see if it helped to stay,last time i try it the crystals was good on the test sheet surface but total crap on the frame..i am trying to make low budget glow green/ glowing blue crystal effect with the same green blue hyper shift top coat but all the tools i have is a crappy 6$ airbrush and cheapest black spray can and spray lacquer ...and i failed crystal effect 3 times for now ..waiting for shift powder delivery and strong nerves for good proper sanding for 4th time…try,fail,improve till i master it and do the job ...🤞(or till i slap simple chameleon carbon fiber wrap if i surender😂 )
I used nitrogen fertilizer 46% (N) , some polish brand called NAWOZ red/pink Plastik bag, 2kg for 13€ and I used dish soap as well.
🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥IMAGINE THIS EFFECT ON A CAARR
Old school way if marblizing effect... as a kid I did this to most of my model cars and bikes....
When painting carbon frames which type of Primer is best? 1k Etch or 2k none etch?
I would have just bought the Midnight Disco. No problem if the customer wanted a one of a kind paint job, it's fine to go that rout. But it makes no sense crapping on the salmon paint when the alternative factory color is both nice looking and pretty unique.
Love to know what the weight it is, before and sanded and then painted 😂 just a fun video idea
No sandpaper after painting?
15 days :D True. Sometimes 2 hours of sanding feels like 15 days 😆😆
Hello, please do you know what color it is on the shimano Dura-Ace 9150 series components - derailleur, chainrings?
For example, some color number, shade, etc. I also paint bicycle frames and refurbish components, but I can't find this color anywhere.
It seems to me that it is a combination of some chrome color + candy color, or just colored chrome.....
Thank you very much for your help.
Maestro, que buen trabajo, una pregunta, que color de letras le pondria a ese trabajo? Le agradezco si me ayuda con esa pregunta
Super 👍
Got a custom hand made lugged mtb bike I need to paint but can’t come up with a good color scheme more modern with lugs any ideas?
Si le pusiera letras, que color se las pondría maestro?
Very useful 🤎
Hi. I wanted to ask what kind of detergent do you use to clean the frame in the sandblaster? Regards.
Hi, wieviel von den Spraydosen braucht man? Primer und clear coat? Reicht da je eine Dose für einen Rennradrahmen?
Danke 👍
I need one of each but most newbies need much more.
I guess it can be done with spray cans too? Just cut piece of foil, spray the paint on it and then do the print?
It can
I have a bare aluminium frame that I am thinking of painting (because it literally looks shitty with dirt and decals falling off).
Question: If I were to apply a crystal layer, could I add additional layers of "crystal" to simulate the layered effects of opal? Not thinking of doing the entire bike, but a portion of the top-tube. Perhaps doing a base-layer, the Crystal, then layer of clear coating, layer of crystal , layer of clear coating?
You can add as much layers as you like.
Hey ETOE, is there anything that can prevent the lowering of the surface tension or something? I always get little water drops instead of an even coat..i ordered the exact same stuff you used via your links but the ochsengalle doesnt work for some reason, is measured everything with a fine scale so the mixture cant be the problem, any tips?
Mfg Jan
Just send me the frame. I can do it for you. It's much easier for me than bringing you to the point where you are able to paint the frame like I did.
okay so question is there a difference between spray can and spray gun painting and clear coating in the long term or are they both as durable in the long run.
My Lambo was painted with spray cans rolling out of the factory. They told me it lasts as long as a pro paint job but saves them tons of money.
I've noticed that you are not masking the BB, headset and suspension linkage holes / ferrules for blasting. Won't that cause some problems (especially for this pressfit BB where tolerances are very small)?
Depends who does the blasting and which media is used.
@@ETOE Thanks for the reply. So, I assume that if the blasting will be done via external contractor it is always best to mask these parts.
Welchen 2k Klarlack benutzt du zum selber anmischen? Bei 11:50 sieht man die zwei großen Kanister auf dem Tisch stehen, welchen Härter und Lack benutzt du da?
Das sind betriebsinterne Informationen die ich nicht veröffentliche um das Geschäft zu schützen.
I don't quite understand, why my plastic wrap is always eroded by paint, and the paint dries very fast, it is completely different from the one in the video, what type of paint is this?
IT`S ALL LINKED IN THE VIDEO DESCRIPTION
well I actually painted my bike with the crystal effect method from your video and it looks fire. any way I can send you some pictures?
No. No way. All messages will be deleted immediately to keep the mail box clear for customers.
in what environment did you apply the crystal fx - temp, humidity?
Was würde diese Lackierung für ein Fully E Bike kosten?
Kommt da noch die Demontage, Montage, Entlackung ,Verpackung,Versand, wenn ja wohin dazu? Oder wie bekomme ich den Rahmen beteigestellt? Um welches Rahmenmaterial handelt es sich überhaupt?
Mega ..
Killer
Which transparent primer can be used if i don't want to spray over the whole frame and see some of the top carbon layer?
Any adhesion promoter. Lots of brands available
Love your videos, but I have to say that using purple accent lights in your studio often gives a completely false impression of the effect you have achieved, as at 11:15….
12-15 days of sanding lol
That's the weirdest way I've ever seen that technique done! Just spray the bike with a light, wet coat and clingfilm it straight off? Making more work for ya self! Would work way better too.
how long does it take to sand blast mtb frame? Full sus
3 hours
I like how you sit there and claim it’s so easy anyone can do it without special tools yet alls you use is special tools. Kinda ignorant if you ask me.
I wonder if this could be done with kustom cans?