And seeing people fight over edits of certain groups on twt is wilddd. I saw tokkis dragging illit over an sparkly edit of them performing (the same edits they’ve been doing since 2019), pure insanity
Bunnies these days are the biggest hypocrites. NJ Instagram used the colours Red Velvet has used for year and ReVeluv said that NJ copied them. I agree with bunnies that no one owns colours. However, when a Glit used the same filter (a popular filter used by many fandoms) they now claimed that Illit's fandom was copying bunnies. Genuinely the biggest hypocrites in the whole kpop community.
specifically talking about the you know what drama, a part of me thinks that deep down inside they know that no one is stealing anything, but they inherited mhj’s fear of illit’s success and have to make themselves believe it because without the narrative they feel insecure.
@@rosescrib EXACTLY its almost laughable that they contradicting themselves so much. ironic really. 🤣 illit is so much more mature than those ppl will ever be
@@kyooongie lol mhj started dragging illit and le serra to make newjeanzaintfreeyet seem more like victim and what exactly r newjeanz victim of? am confusion
I hate how yall do this as if the internal documents don’t already prove what was done the copied a concept move on and stop trying to defend it yall look foolish and odd
@ idk what you are even talking about this is most definitely something you made up to have a point address the internal documents not whatever you are on about
@@jamirhill5912 the ceo of belift lab literally denied it + the creative director of magnetic did so too, you bunnies have made up weird shit before aint no one gonna believe yall anymore
No one is original in 2024 anymore. All these genres, styling, hair styling, make up looks & concepts have been done for years! Especially concepts concerning fairytales, mythologies, knights, vampires, cults & royals. The "futuristic" & "AI" concepts have been done in the late 90's to early 2000's by a lot of existing artists in different fields within the entertainement industry.
I hate new jeans, I hate their fans, I hate their "mother" CEO, I hate their parents I hate EVERYTHING that has something to do with them. I will forever cringe at the time when I used to be newjeans stan
@kyooongie at first I believed so too but their recent actions screams spoiled little shits. Also the children excuse doesn't work anymore since everyone but Hyein is an adult
why is it so toxic that they cant just idfk focus on they biases? is it really that hard unless theyve done a newjeans and broke contractual rules which they havent then i dont get the need to constantly pit one group against another maybe i thought bts used to be similar to one direction yet thyere still different at the same time. even tho personally their english songs remind me of 1d days lmao thats just because im so used to hearing certain style of english pop song. what these "fans" are whining about is an imagery based non issue. they stress levels must be thru the roof how miserable are they that they cant let illit live peacefully?
@AUGHHHHHBBG yes, it has sparkly filter similar to Newjeans edit. They're planning t report that glit's acc. The illit edit which has so many reach and likes I couldn't find that a few moments ago.
It's not really, kpop had just really watered down concepts to visuals which is why there's so much copying allegations. Everyone is doing the bare minimum of what a concept should be, meaning they are all very similar.
Concept cannot be copyrighted. Period. Even music plagiarism accusation mostly wrong. Amateur do not understand music theory and the law about music plagiarism that some countries have different definition.
@@bimotok757 I agree with you .... I am not a music expert ..... but if I don't know something ........ then I ask the one who knows, I read from books, I ask GOOGLE
It really goes to show how lazy and petty MHJ can be. NJ is supposed to be the younger prettier "upgraded" version of Red Velvet, why shouldn't they also have Red Velvet's colors? I have a feeling she's shopping around with color+fabric names for the future rebrand as we speak.
most K-pop stans act so protective about when another group has the same concept as their faves. It’s so weird. Anyways my favorite concepts are retro and cute.
Hot take, people were saying that Nmixx copy Aespa, when in reality a year prior to their debut JYP sold a exclusive album, nmixx and aespa don't have the same concept, they just share weirdness.
Agencies like WGSN issue trend reports that forecast trends 12 -18 months in advance. They have advance information on fashion and design based on manufacturing order books. That’s why they can’t confidently predict so far ahead. Colours, designs, etc are all covered and widely used by multiple industries.
I think I know why this video was made. *coughs* The drama behind an ILLIT fan edit *coughs* (Honestly, though, it's so freaking stupid how bunnies are getting all pressed over a filter that has existed before NewJeans even debuted and has been used in a lot of videos and edits around 2019-2020 and still being used to this day. No one owns the filter. Not the person who made the ILLIT edit nor the person who made the NewJeans edit.)
Unless it’s an actual made up concept that has never *ever* been done before then I would say that person or group own it. But in kpop nothing is original, it’s all inspired from the west.
i believe its 50/50. i dont think they care if its inspired from the west or nkt they just dont want illit to do well compared to dirtyjeanzforfree group
THANK YOUUU 😭😂😂 I just find it so funny how mfs will say songs are copied without understanding the concept of bloody samples and fan wars will happen meanwhile the idols are deadass besties or atleast friends it’s A JOKE 🙄😂 so embarrassing and dumb I hate it
Recuerdo la primera vez que tuve ésa pelea, cuando criticaron a BTS por usar el concepto del uniforme Escolar, cómo si hubieran copiado 😂😂, mientras que BTS aún tenía integrantes en la Escuela 😅 Siempre hablan cómo si su grupo , por hacerlo primero o popular ( no significa que invento el objetivo) pueda tener derechos para decidir quién puede o no usar .
Seriously hard agree, what shocks me the most with a certain type of fan base making comparisons and shout that the concept was stolen when they are so diffrent from each other. Like i could never see that one group do a newjackswing type of hiphop music while i couldn't see the others do overly cutesy songs. Sometimes I'm wondering if they even are true fans. Because again the concepts to me are so diffrent like tomato and cucumber only similarity being vegetables. Even my friends who just casually listened to both of these groups said they are diffrent. Idk i don't get it really lol.
I love illit, but i think the real damage is that Hybe uses same concepts and marketing strategy in their umbrella, thats like a Industry plant and in some extenses feel empty, buuuuuut Illit is taking new steps in their concept, and i love it
if this is referencing the nwjns/illit thing, i actually have even been seeing viral korean tweets supporting illit and seeing that the concepts are not really similar. though seiran hu's reaction was...immature it was justified as her creative vision for illit is nothing like nwjns. mhj is talking out of her ass saying that illit's creative team copied her. even minji's parents saying illit was making fun of her just because they mentioned kalguksu is straight bullying. nwjns choreographer trying to claim classic old hip hop moves, like the cat daddy, were plagiarized is cultural appropriation at it's finest. and in what world is y2k nostalgia the same concept as surreal magic girls? if anything i see more inspo from groups like loona, cherrybullet and wjsn than nwjns from illit. and if there's any 5th gen big company group that has direct nwjns influence, it's riize (and there's nothing wrong with that since no one owns a concept). the only crime those illit girls faced was having their lineup change from 6 to 5 bc of an unfounded dating rumor, and debuting with natural hair. now do i think it's a little odd that belift asked for nwjn's project proposal? yes. do i think belift might've asked for the project proposal to specifically copy nwjns? not really. i think they wanted to look over it in order to make sure there wasn't any overlap. min heejin clearly thought that ador and all the sublabels would be run more independently and she'd have more control but she clearly didn't read her contracts well enough if she thought a 20/80 split would allow any sort of financial control from a parent company. she also absolutely fcked soumu over before she left her position there so i also wouldn't be surprised if lsfm debuting before nwjns was done to spite her. people seem to forget that SHE is the main reason gfriend disbanded so abruptly. she was obsessed with the idea of producing the 'first hybe gg' and she couldn't do that with veterans gfriend in the house. but then she demanded for her own label and left soumu without any income source until the debut a new gg. so yeah, hybe higher ups clearly didn't like her and she didn't like them. that whole wretched company then used their groups as game pawns to do their power plays. except mhj took it a step further that became very toxically enmeshed with her artists. the main reason she's doing media circus after media circus is because it's the sm way. during second/third gen the way sm would create plagiarism scandals left and right, and it's very reminiscent of what mhj is doing now. i think a couple of years down the line people will realize how victimized all these young idols were, but esp illit.
I see a lot of Army fall for this too. People imitating BTS is just going to happen. That’s what success looks like. If no one is copying then your faves are irrelevant. Its fun to make fun of some times but some take it actually seriously and go after debuting boy groups who have like zero control over anything they do and are forced by their company into imitating the most popular boy group ever. That’s just mean.
The diff with army is that they part that was copied was produced by suga it a diff matter than what this video is saying cause bys dosent have a concept they do lots of diff styles
@@BlissEntertainment-q5i And- the KK song, RM credited KK as a sampling for the other portion. SKZ credited no one. Then after the backlash came out, said oh right it’s a sampling. In the music industry it’s considered unethical to not credit your sampling- just saying. What is the reasoning behind crediting no one? Yeah…
If we want to talk about copying, K pop did not invent hip hop, rap or R & B. Culturally those come from the African American community and the roots of that are the black church, jazz, the blues and African rhythm patterns.When a group's dance moves are inspired by Michael Jackson I don't go on line to say that a K pop group stole his moves. I check to see how well they used his moves to make something fresh and new. So grow up, learn about music and dance then say something intelligent.
There’s nothing wrong with inspiration. My favorite recent music videos (because I like horror/terror)? Because by Dreamcatcher and Cosmic by Red Velvet. They took inspiration from Us and Midsommar, respectively. My one situation where there might be a point is shot for shot stuff, but even then, it’s difficult to prove and comes off as the Tiktokers whining that someone jumped on a trend too.
@@rosescribthank you finally someone said that groups don't own the concepts maybe min he jin should see this video (but the funny thing is illit (dream core)concept is so different from new jeans (y2k)
illit have been receiving their flowers from many globally . Right now it’s easier to point fingers because illit are fresh in but at some point this will all be laughable towards them
Nah because BlackPink is very girl crush coded but I see no one saying pretty much 90% of girl groups today are girl crush and "COPYING" BlackPink 🥱🥱🥱🥱🥱🥱🥱
Taeyeon from twice her come back i don't remember ABCD or something stile the adilib from Amerie's one thing. Seventeen who I adore in theri song i don't understand but i love you instrumental bridge taken right out of Youarefire by Lany. As Melennial i didn't lose my sizz like gen z and alpa are doing
And seeing people fight over edits of certain groups on twt is wilddd. I saw tokkis dragging illit over an sparkly edit of them performing (the same edits they’ve been doing since 2019), pure insanity
Bunnies these days are the biggest hypocrites.
NJ Instagram used the colours Red Velvet has used for year and ReVeluv said that NJ copied them. I agree with bunnies that no one owns colours.
However, when a Glit used the same filter (a popular filter used by many fandoms) they now claimed that Illit's fandom was copying bunnies.
Genuinely the biggest hypocrites in the whole kpop community.
real the only true statement is if a group DOMINATES a concept but they can NEVER own it
@@WinningBlink best summary for this 💖
@rosescrib thank you🥹
💯💯👍
this! blackpink with girlcrush, ateez with pirates and enhypen with vampires>>>>
Illit literally getting dragged for a filter that a fan used on a edit😭
bro. literally saw that and I just gotta say that people are so stupid
specifically talking about the you know what drama, a part of me thinks that deep down inside they know that no one is stealing anything, but they inherited mhj’s fear of illit’s success and have to make themselves believe it because without the narrative they feel insecure.
much agree its absolute projected insecurity they have of illit outdoing newjeans
And funny enough, the more hate they pour on them, the more illit becomes more successful and well known globally
@@rosescrib EXACTLY its almost laughable that they contradicting themselves so much. ironic really. 🤣 illit is so much more mature than those ppl will ever be
I agree!
No because the only reason why I gave Illit the time of day was because I wanted to understand for myself if the "copying" allegations held any merit.
illit: **breathes**
anyone: OMG how dare they copy retiredpants breathing method
Retired pants😭😭😭am wheezing
"Retiredpants" girl 😭
yeah let’s protect illit but drag another group who has the same age range as them… typical kpop stans…
@@kyooongie lol mhj started dragging illit and le serra to make newjeanzaintfreeyet seem more like victim and what exactly r newjeanz victim of? am confusion
@@Itzstar446 someone else called them dirtyjeanz earlier on another video it was too funny
Toxic tokkis need to watch this asap
Min he Jin as well
I hate how yall do this as if the internal documents don’t already prove what was done the copied a concept move on and stop trying to defend it yall look foolish and odd
@@jamirhill5912 you guys claimed that they were copying pants because illit debuted with all black hair bffr
@ idk what you are even talking about this is most definitely something you made up to have a point address the internal documents not whatever you are on about
@@jamirhill5912 the ceo of belift lab literally denied it + the creative director of magnetic did so too, you bunnies have made up weird shit before aint no one gonna believe yall anymore
No one is original in 2024 anymore. All these genres, styling, hair styling, make up looks & concepts have been done for years! Especially concepts concerning fairytales, mythologies, knights, vampires, cults & royals. The "futuristic" & "AI" concepts have been done in the late 90's to early 2000's by a lot of existing artists in different fields within the entertainement industry.
So true!
I hate new jeans, I hate their fans, I hate their "mother" CEO, I hate their parents I hate EVERYTHING that has something to do with them. I will forever cringe at the time when I used to be newjeans stan
why hate newjeans when they were quite obviously being gr00med to think they would be nothing without mhj
@kyooongie at first I believed so too but their recent actions screams spoiled little shits. Also the children excuse doesn't work anymore since everyone but Hyein is an adult
@@kyooongie groomed or not they sided with that witch
@@kyooongie and disrespected many peoples without factual evidence
@@kyooongie they have done lots of things for being hated being groomed does not mean we should not hold them accountable
its funny how they are all fighting when in my country all our artists have only one aesthetic, music, lyrics and everyone is thriving
And then tokkis bully illit non stop because of it
fr no one owns nothing the hairstyle concept dresss it's soo toxic
why is it so toxic that they cant just idfk focus on they biases? is it really that hard unless theyve done a newjeans and broke contractual rules which they havent then i dont get the need to constantly pit one group against another maybe i thought bts used to be similar to one direction yet thyere still different at the same time. even tho personally their english songs remind me of 1d days lmao thats just because im so used to hearing certain style of english pop song. what these "fans" are whining about is an imagery based non issue. they stress levels must be thru the roof how miserable are they that they cant let illit live peacefully?
Now their fans making fuss about an illit video edit. They are claiming that edit is copied from newjeans edit. And it's so frustrating atp.
saw that earlier today and I was in so much shock. Wtf?
@@rosescrib the person who made the edit is facing so much backlash and made another post to clarify she or he didn't cppy them.
AN EDIT? Oh they are tripping BALLSS
@AUGHHHHHBBG yes, it has sparkly filter similar to Newjeans edit. They're planning t report that glit's acc. The illit edit which has so many reach and likes I couldn't find that a few moments ago.
TYY!!!
Like Badvillain got hate for "copying" Babymonster. THEY WEREN'T
and for “copying” xg too like i love both groups and its so sad seeing them be pitted against each other 😢😢
concept is just a look. literally all it is, is an image but why they always target a group with actual minors. i dont know
It's not really, kpop had just really watered down concepts to visuals which is why there's so much copying allegations.
Everyone is doing the bare minimum of what a concept should be, meaning they are all very similar.
@@Myelllie it doesnt help that they get similar plastic surgery so they look for specific type of visuals in an idol or trainee either
Concept cannot be copyrighted. Period. Even music plagiarism accusation mostly wrong. Amateur do not understand music theory and the law about music plagiarism that some countries have different definition.
@@bimotok757 exactlyyyyyy ding ding ding u got it right boo
@@bimotok757 I agree with you .... I am not a music expert ..... but if I don't know something ........ then I ask the one who knows, I read from books, I ask GOOGLE
Me: fr no one owns a concept
Also me: *quiet af as Reveluvs jumping Bunnies for New Jeans boosting Red Velvet colors* what goes around comes around
It really goes to show how lazy and petty MHJ can be. NJ is supposed to be the younger prettier "upgraded" version of Red Velvet, why shouldn't they also have Red Velvet's colors?
I have a feeling she's shopping around with color+fabric names for the future rebrand as we speak.
most K-pop stans act so protective about when another group has the same concept as their faves. It’s so weird. Anyways my favorite concepts are retro and cute.
It’s like they haven’t seen Pinterest before 😞
@@rosescrib RIGHT?!
Bunnies must have their ears really red right now 😂😂
Bunnies who think NJ own Y2K and My who thinks AESPA own AI & Y3K need to see this vid
Hot take, people were saying that Nmixx copy Aespa, when in reality a year prior to their debut JYP sold a exclusive album, nmixx and aespa don't have the same concept, they just share weirdness.
😂 fr and aespa is barely full futuristic like F5VE is in Japan , they’re just dark and light AI with some sci fi!!
Agencies like WGSN issue trend reports that forecast trends 12 -18 months in advance. They have advance information on fashion and design based on manufacturing order books. That’s why they can’t confidently predict so far ahead. Colours, designs, etc are all covered and widely used by multiple industries.
I think I know why this video was made.
*coughs* The drama behind an ILLIT fan edit *coughs*
(Honestly, though, it's so freaking stupid how bunnies are getting all pressed over a filter that has existed before NewJeans even debuted and has been used in a lot of videos and edits around 2019-2020 and still being used to this day. No one owns the filter. Not the person who made the ILLIT edit nor the person who made the NewJeans edit.)
i mean if they didnt pay so much attention to what people are or arent saying about them there shouldnt be such a reaction
Unless it’s an actual made up concept that has never *ever* been done before then I would say that person or group own it. But in kpop nothing is original, it’s all inspired from the west.
i believe its 50/50. i dont think they care if its inspired from the west or nkt they just dont want illit to do well compared to dirtyjeanzforfree group
@randomuser-nt9if”dirtyjeanzforfree”😂 it’s like they’re dirty, they have no value, and that’s why they’re all just for free 😂😂😂
@@MAMB14 they have fragile egos too the ppl writing stuff about illit
THANK YOUUU 😭😂😂 I just find it so funny how mfs will say songs are copied without understanding the concept of bloody samples and fan wars will happen meanwhile the idols are deadass besties or atleast friends it’s A JOKE 🙄😂 so embarrassing and dumb I hate it
Envict pants fans even claim beat count and cord progression these days 😂
MHJ really did ruin Kpop.
0:23 That’s right. *says in chill girl*
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Omg i love this topic and i may also take a look
thanks, pookie 💖💖
Recuerdo la primera vez que tuve ésa pelea, cuando criticaron a BTS por usar el concepto del uniforme Escolar, cómo si hubieran copiado 😂😂, mientras que BTS aún tenía integrantes en la Escuela 😅
Siempre hablan cómo si su grupo , por hacerlo primero o popular ( no significa que invento el objetivo) pueda tener derechos para decidir quién puede o no usar .
Seriously hard agree, what shocks me the most with a certain type of fan base making comparisons and shout that the concept was stolen when they are so diffrent from each other. Like i could never see that one group do a newjackswing type of hiphop music while i couldn't see the others do overly cutesy songs. Sometimes I'm wondering if they even are true fans. Because again the concepts to me are so diffrent like tomato and cucumber only similarity being vegetables. Even my friends who just casually listened to both of these groups said they are diffrent. Idk i don't get it really lol.
idgi anymore am confusion
I love illit, but i think the real damage is that Hybe uses same concepts and marketing strategy in their umbrella, thats like a Industry plant and in some extenses feel empty, buuuuuut Illit is taking new steps in their concept, and i love it
if this is referencing the nwjns/illit thing, i actually have even been seeing viral korean tweets supporting illit and seeing that the concepts are not really similar. though seiran hu's reaction was...immature it was justified as her creative vision for illit is nothing like nwjns. mhj is talking out of her ass saying that illit's creative team copied her. even minji's parents saying illit was making fun of her just because they mentioned kalguksu is straight bullying. nwjns choreographer trying to claim classic old hip hop moves, like the cat daddy, were plagiarized is cultural appropriation at it's finest. and in what world is y2k nostalgia the same concept as surreal magic girls? if anything i see more inspo from groups like loona, cherrybullet and wjsn than nwjns from illit. and if there's any 5th gen big company group that has direct nwjns influence, it's riize (and there's nothing wrong with that since no one owns a concept). the only crime those illit girls faced was having their lineup change from 6 to 5 bc of an unfounded dating rumor, and debuting with natural hair. now do i think it's a little odd that belift asked for nwjn's project proposal? yes. do i think belift might've asked for the project proposal to specifically copy nwjns? not really. i think they wanted to look over it in order to make sure there wasn't any overlap.
min heejin clearly thought that ador and all the sublabels would be run more independently and she'd have more control but she clearly didn't read her contracts well enough if she thought a 20/80 split would allow any sort of financial control from a parent company. she also absolutely fcked soumu over before she left her position there so i also wouldn't be surprised if lsfm debuting before nwjns was done to spite her. people seem to forget that SHE is the main reason gfriend disbanded so abruptly. she was obsessed with the idea of producing the 'first hybe gg' and she couldn't do that with veterans gfriend in the house. but then she demanded for her own label and left soumu without any income source until the debut a new gg. so yeah, hybe higher ups clearly didn't like her and she didn't like them. that whole wretched company then used their groups as game pawns to do their power plays. except mhj took it a step further that became very toxically enmeshed with her artists.
the main reason she's doing media circus after media circus is because it's the sm way. during second/third gen the way sm would create plagiarism scandals left and right, and it's very reminiscent of what mhj is doing now. i think a couple of years down the line people will realize how victimized all these young idols were, but esp illit.
I see a lot of Army fall for this too. People imitating BTS is just going to happen. That’s what success looks like. If no one is copying then your faves are irrelevant. Its fun to make fun of some times but some take it actually seriously and go after debuting boy groups who have like zero control over anything they do and are forced by their company into imitating the most popular boy group ever. That’s just mean.
The diff with army is that they part that was copied was produced by suga it a diff matter than what this video is saying cause bys dosent have a concept they do lots of diff styles
@@BlissEntertainment-q5i And- the KK song, RM credited KK as a sampling for the other portion. SKZ credited no one. Then after the backlash came out, said oh right it’s a sampling. In the music industry it’s considered unethical to not credit your sampling- just saying. What is the reasoning behind crediting no one? Yeah…
The whole copying thing was always wild especially since their music is and concept are different
If we want to talk about copying, K pop did not invent hip hop, rap or R & B. Culturally those come from the African American community and the roots of that are the black church, jazz, the blues and African rhythm patterns.When a group's dance moves are inspired by Michael Jackson I don't go on line to say that a K pop group stole his moves. I check to see how well they used his moves to make something fresh and new. So grow up, learn about music and dance then say something intelligent.
6:52 - 6:57 girl u are so real for that. I'm crying 😭🙌🤣🤣🤣
😌😌😌
3:45 - freakin preach girl. So well said.
TRULY ICONIC VIDEO ILY
LY TOO 🥹💖
Only bunny thinking that.😂😂😂
There’s nothing wrong with inspiration. My favorite recent music videos (because I like horror/terror)? Because by Dreamcatcher and Cosmic by Red Velvet. They took inspiration from Us and Midsommar, respectively.
My one situation where there might be a point is shot for shot stuff, but even then, it’s difficult to prove and comes off as the Tiktokers whining that someone jumped on a trend too.
I'm sorry. But if I see Dirtyjeans doing something similar to other groups. I'm going to drag them cause I HATE hypocrites.
The way this is actually common sense too like y'all gotta take a seat & stop trying to point that pitchfork for just about anything 😭
First.... Love your videos ❤
tysmm 💖🥇🥇
@@rosescribthank you finally someone said that groups don't own the concepts maybe min he jin should see this video (but the funny thing is illit (dream core)concept is so different from new jeans (y2k)
@ istg, she and her puppets are so dumb. The difference in concepts is so clear but because people are so blinded by hate, they can’t see it
@@rosescrib for real bunnies min he jin and her puppies need to chill TF out
I guess they were mad that the blue outfit match the sparkle blue filter and made them look magical 🔥yass illit Queen's slllaaayyyy🔥
Bunnies need to watch your video. I’ve been trying to explain this to some Tokkies but they won’t listen to commonsense.
illit have been receiving their flowers from many globally . Right now it’s easier to point fingers because illit are fresh in but at some point this will all be laughable towards them
Wait until they find out newjeans concept isn’t original mhj stole it from a Mexican group called jeans she didn’t even change the name 🌚
Nah because BlackPink is very girl crush coded but I see no one saying pretty much 90% of girl groups today are girl crush and "COPYING" BlackPink 🥱🥱🥱🥱🥱🥱🥱
Well said
Even the Ai voice is tired of this damn nonsense lmaoooo
😭😭
Taeyeon from twice her come back i don't remember ABCD or something stile the adilib from Amerie's one thing. Seventeen who I adore in theri song i don't understand but i love you instrumental bridge taken right out of Youarefire by Lany. As Melennial i didn't lose my sizz like gen z and alpa are doing
preach sister preach
Great video
thank you ❤
yess yes yesss