The 5950 is a very nice CPU. My 10900k is still rocking hard but you are averaging 7-8 more fps in Cyberpunk with your CPU. Nice! I like that you are benchmarking with very high quality settings at 1440p and 4k resolutions. That's what many of us want to see.
I could get 3080 TI for $1450 but the vendor just told me its gone, now he offers me: 3070 for $950 3060 TI for $770 3080 for $1350 I thought take 3080 TI to skip few gens ahead, but if I cant get 3080 TI for this price, then I rather take mid-range and possibly upgrade in next gen or gen after next. Thoughts on what should I do? P.S. I did a mistake, 2 weeks ago got 6700 XT for $1000 (money i reserved for major upgrade), realized this card isnt for me as it doesnt do well in RT, i sold it for $800 few days after got it... so I really need make the right choice and not lose money again. Help me with your opinion, thanks!
@@Rico24337 it isn't the same price, like the 3090s other cards have dropped to. Where the 3090 is now around 1000 or a little less the 3080 is around $550 and the 3080ti around $650-$700
@Bryce Czirr How so?, this graphics cards are everywhere in my country, they are highly priced and not worth buying right now though, did you mean they are hard to find at reasonable price?, then I agree with you completely.
@@rosg9739 I have a 3090 and hes right lmao… 3080ti is just a money grab by nvidia. 10 more fps (which you wont notice irl) for 50% more price than the 3080. I guarantee you’re too poor to afford any of em too
I ordered my 3080 two days ago. Glad I ordered it for a huge price margin against the 3080 Ti, because those 10 fps it has on the 3080 are NOT worth $500.
so sad you could get any of these cards and your still just a few fps from one another, the 3000 series, what a horrible horrible generation and to think these cards were selling at up to 4g's at one point, the TI increased their price by 100's all for 3-10% insane times
As someone who upgraded from a 3080 to a 3080Ti I can tell you its not worth it. Only reason I can justify it is because I was able to sell my 3080 at 3080Ti cost otherwise you are spending over $500 more for a few frames.
i'm more about the extra vram/memory for rendering, contact creating. I didn't have a 3080, but i just upgraded from my old 1050 GTX to Rog Strix 3080 TI. I could have had 3080 but i decided to wait out the rumors because i know there's always a TI coming up. for gaming not so much difference but Nvidia alwaystake the errors from the vanille version to improve the TI version as the answer, at least at the rendering department i'm sure it's better, i glad i watied it out.
@@pootsplasencia4846 obviously you'll get more power, but 3080 TI cost like a 3090 now minus the memory. might as well wait for price drop and if u want to sell ur 3070 to use th emoney for 3090 go for it, otherwise no.
yeah for 10-15fps more i dont think its worth 400euro more, im waiting for rtx 4000 series, but if i was in a hurry i deff go for 3080 and not 3080ti, as i said 400euros more for 10-15fps, and tbh its not even 10fps diff if u want the video carefully
Lol, glad I didn’t wait for the 3080ti like some people said. It’s a rubbish value for money and honestly the gpu situation is worse now. Glad I got a 3080, which along with the 3060ti are the best value for money cards
@@lottexy I didn't buy a 3080ti. I have a regular 3080. The 3080ti is bad because who is it for? Not for video editors because they need 24GB VRAM and it's certainly not for gamers as you can just OC a 3080 and be on par with it.
@@silverwatchdog you can also with extreme overclocking knownledge squeeze quite a gap of performance and buy a custom waterloop for it making it easily on par with the fe
@@silverwatchdog Lol the 30 series cards are notoriously bad overclockers. You are NOT going to overclock a 3080 and get the same performance out of it as a 3080 Ti or 3090 no matter how hard you try.
@@Dagger_323 True, but I got to overclock mine 1000 points away from a top tier EVGA FTW ULTRA 3080ti in time spy, which means I am getting 95% of the performance of it. Of course, real-world performance differences could be less, but a 5% margin is pretty close. Maybe with water cooling, it's possible to match a stock AIB 3080ti and even beat the FE, but either way, it's totally not worth the extra $400. Edit: Forgot to mention, mine is the Gigabyte Gaming OC, so a midrange AIB. Maybe I just won the silicon lottery with it because I can get 2050MHz stable out of it.
I was gonna upgrade from my 3080 to a 3080 ti, but it really doesn't seem worth the extra money. I don't think the extra 5-7 fps second extra is worth a few extra hundred dollars. Besides, at 4k and Ultra settings, I always get well over 60 fps easy, unless the game only goes up to 60 fps. Perhaps I should just be cool with what I have and stop being greedy for extra crumbs.
If I already had the 3080 I would t do such a small upgrade wait till the 4000 series comes near December or January you’re not missing out with such a small upgrade 3080 is still a monster.
That power usage difference between the 3080 and 3080Ti is massive. Not sure it is worth that much extra on my utilities bill for only on average a 10 FPS difference.
@@xMACHOxMANx some quick math at 18 cents a kWh when using your PC 6 hours a day at 700W is about $22.68 a month. If your PC was 800W then that will increase by about $3 to $25.92 or about 14% plus/minus per 100W. Not much but something to consider.
Word I just got the 3060 for the original msrp by luck because a guy just returned it , gonna wait until the 40 series to drop so I sell my 3060 and 2060 to get it
Well, 3080 Ti is getting very close to MSRP these days because its overpriced from the start :D but at least one doesn't feel like an idiot in case of 3080, which is double the price.
Yeeeaahhh... The only liiiitle problem is that 3080Ti now (Sept. 10th 2021) costs EXACTLY the same money as 3090 costed when I bought it almost a year ago, and has twice less VRAM, what may (or may not) have some impact on future games
@@julienlauzon1106 GPU mining is "likely" to pretty much die in Q1 2022 with ETH2.0. Once the 4000 series is launched the resale value will likely half, nothing new. Secondly the 3080TI is the same poor value for mining as the 3090, as its now about 70% the mining performance with the NBminer unlock, BUT at 70 % of the price of the 3090, pretty much even.
Usually i would say for gaming only pick a 3080 Ti and if you render or edit in any way you should go with the 3090 .... but currently it´s more like .... take what you get. LoL
@@Durion7 please tell me where the fk u can get a rtx 3080 for $700? Cause cheapest one is found is $1550 plus tax and shipping. And 3080ti for $1650-1700.
Don't look at that 10% performance. You are getting 2 GB extra VRAM. I know it doesn't sound much but games at 4K are already using more than 8GB VRAM and I wouldn't be surprised if the next year releases will use 10+ GB VRAM. Just look at COD Warzone Vram usage. Don't just see the fps. More VRAM will provide a smoother experience.
Thank you for your hard work! In Russia, these video cards cost a lot of money and we still need to look for them. But judging by the tests, you should not take the RTX3090, since in modern games the usual RTX3080 is enough, but the RTX3080Ti surprised me. I think with the need for the amount of video memory, the last two video cards will be in priority. I'm still sitting on a GTX 580 and watching your video is very painful for me, because I can't afford these video cards and I think many will not be able to.
Start saving NOW. For a 3080TI or a 4070 or 4080 which will run anything for a very very very long time- when it comes out then wait a little while after that. Gives you years to save up.
@@BattleBrotherCasten When you save up for RTX3080, it will be no longer relevant. And over time, when the years pass, I will no longer be interested in games.
I mean the retail price are meaningless coz you can’t get this card at this price. Now in aus the 3080 is about $2250 and the 3090ti is about $2550. Obviously at this price the 3080ti worth the extra money
Yep, I feel like the crypto appeal of these cards are gonna fade pretty rapidly with the advent of proof of work. There is certainly an unprecedented demand in the consumer market as well as a ton of people are switching to pc.
Am I the only one that feels dissapointed that the most powerful gpus around still cant run 4k @120 fps? Like 4k @ 60fps seems like it shouldve been done years ago. Plus, im using a 2070 super and I can play 4k @ 50fps on avg so an extra $500 for 10fps avg? Was that really worth a whole new gen? Ill wait
@@SamSpeed90 You both have a point but it's more about cutting down the costs of manufacturing. Same how a $10,000 TV from ten years ago would be worth like $200 now. At that time it cost that much to produce. I believe we are on the forefront of video technology. The 'better' stuff does exist, its not being hoarded because there's no benefit to that. Is being further researched past its invention to reduce manufactering costs.
Can’t wait to get my 3080 TI in a couple of months. Been saving and unless there’s a major GPU upgrade/CPU upgrade I’m looking pretty good for the next 5 years lol damn thing runs almost like a 3090
@@vossiapollo2978 but thats all just the vram they gonna allocate and not the used vram.. they will allocate as much as they can, like a 6800xt with 16gb uses same percentage of vram like a 3080 with only 10gb.. so thats not the real usage of the vram. so it will be easy for 2-3 years with 10gb of vram
@@tikurai4970 yes that is very true I have a 3080ti that has 12gb and some games if I play on Ultra are almost hitting 10 at 1440p. Not many games just very graphical games. And with consoles having 16vram these games aren't slowly down anytime soon so in a year or two Ultra on a 3080 is gonna be pushing it. But 90 percent of the games the 3080 will be fine just those crazy games like red dead
In 2-3 years OLED 3840x1600 or 4K 16:9 will be the norm and we will be fighting over 4000 series cards or camping out at BB for a 5070 or 5080 launch. Its not gonna get better till 2023 and that's being optimistic...
Lol not gonna happen, even 2080 right now costs almost double what it did when it came out. GPU supply is gonna be low for a long time because of the supply chain getting destroyed. That coupled with insane inflation rate this price might never go down if anything it'll go up.
@@zhenyucai8688 OR digital currency will go to shit and all the mining cards will be useless, flooding the market making the price drop more than grandmas titties. I wait for this moment.
So, I'd definitely buy a 3080 TI over a 3080 for around the 20 more frames per second that it provides, but to buy a 3090 over the 3080 TI is pointless and not worth all of the extra money as you can clearly see that it only offers (literally) a few frames per second more than the 3080 TI. I mean honestly, some of these cards are a complete waste of space. What the fuck do they be thinking about when they make most of these cards? Ironically, with the way these non-msrp prices have been, the 3080 and the 308 ti have been seen at the same price point, while the 3090 is like $1,000 more lol. It's totally ridiculous out here right now.
So what I can see from this is the 3080 Ti is essentially a 3090, but for $300 cheaper and with 12GB Less VRAM, which is still a great amount for gaming (Not to mention the RTX 2080 Ti had 11GB of GDDR6 VRAM, which is 1GB less than the 3080 Ti. What I suggest is if you have a low/mid range 20 or 30 series card, and want a better one, get a 3080. If you're like me though and have a 1660 Ti, or any 10 Series GPU, get a 3080 Ti (OR a 3090 if you mainly use GPUs for Productivity)
@@JayFRL Yep, exact reason I'm not waiting for the 40 series even though I'm gonna be shopping for a gpu around September. I just got a new SF750, no way in hell I'm spending money on ANOTHER psu. And plus all my custom sleeved cables will become incompatible and I'll need to get a new pcie 5.0 one, and the skinny 5.0 cable doesn't even look as good as triple 8-pin cables.
The new 4000 series cards are pushing 120+ fps with raytracing at 4k. Monster cards! They also need two nuclear reactors to power them. Im concerned about that. I feel like many homes are gonna catch fire with all that energy suction. 👀
Keep in mind these cards are for super enthusiasts. They’re expensive to make but worth the cost for hardcore gamers, or even people who use it for gpu/cpu intensive work, ie CAD, 3D animation and game development. If you are not any of these people, then these cards are mostly irrelevant for your needs.
@@enlargedquack so wait. i spend alot of money for a 3090, and get only 80fps in 1440p in valhalla???? WTF?! in which world these cards are powerful? 3D animation and game development? WHAT? what games? 8bit indie games? when there is a card who can make OVER 144fps in the newest games in 1440p and 4k, then were talking about graphic cards we dont need as normal gamers! the 3000 cards are just normal low power cards.
I just got a EVGA 3070 Ti FTW3 Ultra and I entered into the EVGA Step Up program for a 3080. That seems to be a reasonable stopping point because the 3080 Ti was $500 more and it looks to be maybe only 8-10 FPS better (on average) than the 3080 - after watching your vid. Thanks for taking the time to do this.
@@MLGVashLive Not light years, but certainly a better card andcomparable to a 3090. I had to set a limit though. I could have gone to a 3090 but didn't want to pay that extra cost. Not worth it for my needs.
@@solson223 probelm is you’re comparing settings one aspect and not comparing different settings at same resolution. 1440p low settings they MIGHT be close but with the extra vram 1440p high settings you’ll see a significant drop in frames in comparison with the two
@@MLGVashLive I always compare cards at the same settings and resolution. I've done a lot of homework on the 3080 and 3080 Ti. In the current EVGA market, with the options available to me on an upgrade, the Ti is about $500 or more than the 3080. And that gets you 2GB more VRAM and less than 10 fps on average for gaming. Not worth the price jump for me.
@@djentrification1631 I think more people don't look at it this way. I'm not saying the cost is good or bad. But if NVIDIA released the 3090 at $1,200 everyone would think it's incredible. So they did, called it a 3080ti, and everything thinks it's trash lol.
@@CosmicApe right but with the 3080 ti you're getting half the v-ram, I bought a 3080ti simply because that's all I could get that was atleast on par with a 3080 and I wish for the price it came with 16gb of vram. That would have helped justify my purchase a little bit more.
For those who are interested in 4K Gaming, anything above a 3080 GPU is pointless due to the fact that a 3080ti and 3090 only give a few more FPS. Plus, the three are at 99% regardless of Vram. Well, you saved a lot of gamers' money. Thanks you! 8D
i have 3080 for a year and i was playing in 4k, pretty nice, but in newest games you can barely play on high to get 60 fps. i switched my monitor to 1440p 144hz and it beautiful, in rust, bf1 and other games i get 80-90 fps plus on ultra, and if you wanna go competitive you can get 144fps and more with lower graphics
@@Blastros01 All the FE stock is over and highly doubt u can get a brand new one since they released the fe models only during launch and after a few months the production is stopped
I see a lot of people bash you the 3080 TI and I can understand why. However if you are looking for a no compromise 4K Ultra settings with Ultra Ray tracing and to still be able to hit that 60 FPS sweet spot or even higher then the RTX 3080 TI is the card to go for. Also if you are big into streaming games the extra power is definitely needed. It's pretty much a 3090 without having to pay a 3090 price.
What do you mean? MSRP $1,200 3080 Ti MSRP $1,500 3090 (300 difference for 12 More GB VRAM and 256 more CUDA cores) sure in most games it's just a few FPS. But the FPS difference between a RTX 3080 and an RTX 3080 Ti isn't that much either for the RTX 3080 $700 MSRP (that's $500)
The price diferrence of 3080ti 12gb and 3090 24gb on Amazon in our country is basically almost double, and yet unless the performance shown here is lying , its literally the same !!!
The 1080 Ti was a fluke. It was one of if not _the_ biggest price to performance powerhouses that Nvidia has ever released. It was _too_ good, which is why it remained relevant for over three years after its release. You're not likely to ever see that kind of performance gap again with any future xx80 Ti card.
@@kolysion164 You didn't understand what I said lol. I'm not talking about the price, I'm talking about the price to performance _value._ The 1080 Ti still offered the biggest performance gain for the money over its predecessor than any flagship GPU has since.
@@kolysion164 You, yet again, didn't understand what I said. Obviously the RTX 3080 is a more powerful card. It still doesn't offer the same performance lift from the 2080 Ti that the 1080 Ti did over the 980 Ti. That was my point, which I've had to reiterate for the third time now. And if you think there is an exactly 30% performance improvement every single generation then you obviously have never done any research into comparison benchmarks.
Why does everyone care about cyberpunk? Like... it plays at 1440p just fine or 30fps 4k. Why do they need it 4k 60? They act like if it dont play well then other games wont too or even future games wont. Might not be a game like cyberpunk for 6 or 7 years. Not like they can do anything about it either. Gonna make cards come out or pay 2000 or 1500 dollars to play cyberpunk???
Yeah definitely still 3080 is the best value lol. I noticed a lot of games are just not optimized though. 4k shouldn't drop frame rates to the 40s on a high end card.
*"I notice a lot of games are just not optimized though."* Oh, you noticed that? :P Ever since the Great Consolization of 2008, no major AAA game has been designed, coded, or optimized for PC hardware or the sensibilities of the PC market. The last AAA PC game was Crysis (11-13-2007), unless you count the standalone expansion Crysis: Warhead and The Witcher: Enhanced Edition (both released on 9-16-2008).
@@bricaaron3978 I don't think I would say none but most yeah. And of course unless you go to the highest end like the 3090, and still may see some under 60fps like in Cyberpunk
@@Blessindisguise You can't determine coding/optimization by framerate alone -- you have to take into account what is actually being processed. E.g. many people think that DOOM 2016 is amazingly "well-optimized" because it gets such high framerates. But the fact is that DOOM 2016 is simply not a very demanding game. It's not _poorly_ coded, but at the same time it doesn't have a huge open world like most modern AAA games, it has no AI routines, no interactive environments, no physics....there's simply not much going on and not much to process compared to most other AAA games. DOOM 2016 definitely is a great modern FPS, though!
I'm so glad I saw this video because I would beat myself up for not getting the 3080ti. 30 or more watts on the 3080ti for only 10-15 frames? that's like $20-$30 more on electricity bill every month. not worth it.
Speaking MSRP only. The 3080 Ti can be seen as a cheap 3090 and at the same time be seen as a rip off 3080. But both the 3080 Ti and 3090 are basically a rip off 3080. Think about it. At base, you are paying $500 dollars more for a 3080 Ti from 3080. $500 dollars for barely more than 10 FPS on some games and less than 5 FPS more on some other games. You are looking at an average of a handful FPS for $500 dollars. $500 dollars is another GPU (3060/3070) for a second GPU set up along side a 3080. Don't waste your money on a 3080Ti or 3090 if you are just gaming.
Yep. The 3080 and 3060 Ti are seen as the value choices in their respective performance brackets. I went all in for a 3080 because the 3090 did not make sense to shell out for at the time (Dec 2020) and still does not unless you're comparing it to the 3080 Ti now.
@@Oppaismasher I think value is more 3060Ti. The 3080 is still extremely expensive for a GPU at MSRP. The 3080 ranges from $800 to almost 1K depending on which one you get. Its just that the 3080Ti isn't worth $500 dollars more for 2 extra GB of VRAM and for a handful of extra FPS.
Even if I had a lot of money, I wouldn't pay $500 to get 10 tires. The RTX 3080 has enough power to run and edit games. 3080ti and 3090 are no different in power than the 3080, but the quality of the 3090 and when gaming monitors are available in 8K resolution and high frequencies at 240Hz or 144, so you can buy an RTX 3090 to play games in 8K, and even if gaming monitors are available in 8K, it won't help me Also most of the international games do not support 8K resolution and it will be a waste of money and no benefit and the best card for everyone now is only RTX 3080
@@lobobaltazar1322 hey I have a evga 3080 they run hot out of the box try changing the power and clock speed curve in msi afterburner. Got mine to run at 2100mhz boost on air cooling never gets over 70c
@@seanjones6683 If by chance You have time, can You put screenshot of Your curve/power to imgr or some servis :) Only if You have spare time ofcourse. Btw I hoped to get a lot of boos in Escape of Tarkov, but game is not optimized.... other games are smooth as silk but not Tarkov ahaha. I have 3900x tho, had to limit to first ccd with project lasso got a lot of improvement from doing that.
Maybe with the next generation of video cards, we can talk about adequate 4K for triple A titles. This generation is doing great in 2K and I think that's its target. My target is at least 100 FPS in 4K in triple A titles, but for now in most new ones it is not possible if you do not reduce the graphics settings.
The next gen gpus are predicted to switch to a MCM architecture which is rumored to be double (some people say triple) the performance of the 6800xt and 3080. It’s not a perfect linear conversion, but that should get us to a consistent 100+ fps in 4K. Of course it’s still rumors but, like you, I really want to be able to play AAA titles in 4K while getting +100 fps. I think next gen might finally accomplish that
Honestly 1440p is where it’s at right now. 4K at anything less than 60 fps is not appealing to me at all. I am loving 60+ at 1440p max settings on my 3080 though. At least we can say 1440p is now ready to replace 1080p (except for like e sports and competitive gaming maybe)
i think i'll go with 3080, 10 to 20 fps boost just dont worth the price since i have 1440p monitor it'll be decent for my system paying for 20 more fps sounds so stupid in case of running on my 4k tv I would prefer to just manage Graphics settings just to get 60 fps sounds fine to me, Nvidia such a greedy company the way they put the price GPUs
@Roas Metten I leave RivaTuner Statistics OSD on at all times. I own several GPUs and PC's all with varying VRAM amounts. My RTX 3080 uses all 10GBs of VRAM at 1080p, 1440p and 2160p. Same goes for my GTX 1080 Ti. My RTX 2070 Super also used all 8GBs yet performed better than the 1080 Ti, even without DLSS on. My wife's RTX 3070 also uses all 8GBs. Remember all at different resolutions. All without performance drops. To me that sounds like allocation and not actual usage as there should be some sort of hiccup or performance loss to some extent. Especially at 2160p where the VRAM actually plays a role. I am not saying with definitive proof that it is allocation. I am saying it seems like the most logical reason why some games shows that it is maxing your VRAM on a OSD. If you can answer with a more logical reason, through actual benchmarking and personal trial and error then please enlighten me. But don't say I never use MSI Afterburner based off my response on my thought on the situation.
I agree with you 3080 and 3070ti are great card in middle price range.....this is really funny when Nvidia bring 3080ti and make the 3090 third wheel :)
@@brokensword2621 I think you didnt understand for whom the 3090 is. Nobody needs this much Vram, except creator. They need that power and vram. the 3090 and the titan rtx was never made for the normal gamer. But for the creator that need the extra performance but dont want to pay the much larger price-gab to get a quadro-card!
If agree that ugly did good, 3080 is so close in performance it’s not worth the money for the 3090 unless you got money burning a whole in your pocket ya know
I JUST noticed that Warzone is using almost ALL VRAM even on the 3090 :O This is insane... that game is like the Google Chrome of gaming or something... It has no limits :/
3080 ti only exists to justify the price of the 3090 and both arent worth it with how close they are to a 3080 in most scenarios. for $500 more youd think the 3080 ti would have 16gb of Vram not 12.
It's a watered down 3090 with half the ram. Same tdp Same bus width Same L2 cache size Same memory type Same die (Nearly the) Same memory bandwidth (Nearly the) Same core count Not a suped up 3080.
@@AurumFaber but at only 10% more performance it's basically a supped up 3080. Don't care about specs. In the end only performance matters. And both the 3080 ti and 3090 are just the equivalent of an above average overclock
This video just saved me $250. I already ordered a 3090 and then I’ve seen 2 videos of the 3080Ti compared and they preform so similarly that I canceled the 3090 and got a 3080Ti. Thanks!!
@@SH-cl7cc yeah I’m not sure what you mean. I secured my GPU for several hundred under MSRP. If anything, it might be the best time to buy as Nvidia has an assload of 3000 series stock to dump to make room for the 4000 series.
@@slumy8195 yeah last time I was told to wait, I decided to ignore that and paid a measly $70 over MSRP. A week later and the price on everything went up over $200 and kept climbing from there. Maybe they’ll only cost $600 by December, maybe they won’t. I’ll roll the dice, it’s paid for with tax return money anyway so I hardly care.
The 3080ti just made the 3090 redundant. Whose going to pay an extra $300 for the same FPS ? And for value for money, the original 3080 beats them all hands down, as it is 'only' $699.
As PC gamer I would tell anyone looking to build a system now to just wait. The ruthless and absurd price gouging with GPUs is pure insanity. A $49.00 - $69.00 4gb 1050ti is currently listed for $249.00. Let that sink in.
the people recommending 3090 are cooked, if you want to waste money 3090 is a great purchase but it's not actually a gaming card. It's main purpose is 3d rendering in real time (like game development). There will be zero games in the next 5 years that needs 24gb VRAM (which is the only real difference between the cards) and in 5 years any new gen will destroy the 3090 even if it only has 12gb VRAM. Don't buy a 3090 for gaming the only people recommending it only does so to try and convince themselves it wasn't a complete waste of money.
@@shadowheart5623 Firstly in most games it’s not as much as 15fps, and secondly when you’re getting 100/120+ FPS at ultra 4k, you really don’t need that extra 10 FPS. May as well wait for the 40 series if you want a meaningful jump. The 3080 released at $699, and the 3080ti released at $1199… absolutely no way is it worth $500 for 10/15fps.
@@shadowheart5623 It is marginal. Its marginal because these extra FPS are at already high FPS ranges. And a lot of the times, its not 15 FPS more. Its like less than 10 FPS more. These FPS are useless and literally can cost $100 per FPS depending on the math.
So glad I managed to order a 3080FE at MSRP back in december, It's easily the best value for your money and the best looking card in comparison with other brands :).
Strange ,should this not be, the higher the resolution the further apart ? But instead the 3080 closes in on the more expensive cards at higher resolution ? Than there is the Temp, the higher end cards get warmer and use more power !? A 3080 cost at the moment 899 € and the 3080ti 1499€ and the 3090 1990€ (for only 10 frames more ? ) 3090 TI 2599€ I get confused By the way I got a 3090ti liquid cooled for rendering and some ETS2 (but that's a howl different story ) But I want to replace my 2080ti also Liquid cooled (Eiswolf cooler) ,but I'm not sure with what? Regards Kenneth John The Netherlands
The 3080 Ti and 3090 dipping into the 40's on Assassin's Creed would concern me if I'd spent market rate on either of those cards. That's not really justifying the big bucks is it? RTX 3080 is where the value lies, if you can find one at a good price.
Nvidia will try from july 2021 to slow prices coming down from miners rip off prices by launching zero fe 3080s ....lm sorry but unless your a games developer...1000 pounds on just a gpu is ridiculous...and lets no forget...ampere is NOT a step forward...the 3080 bears my 2080 super...but neefs a bigger heatsink and 100 watt bigger psu to do it.....thats not impressive to.me at all....u better waiting for rfna3 and nvidia 4000 ...and for prices to come down.
Having gone with the EVGA 3080 FTW3 12gb, and running it for a few months, I've been super high on it's performance. Got in May before the great crypto crash of 2022, so while I paid a bit more than I would've liked, running it with an i7-10700k, for 1080/1440 FPS gaming, it's literally perfect. Only problem I have now is just running out of justifiable upgrades at this point on the setup. Thanks for putting this together!
That is a really good set up 🤣, I have the same processor and a 3080Ti aorus master 12gb for 1440p/4K and my only issue is my case need to get a bigger one now! Hopefully there’s no more unjustified things to upgrade so you can save some money haha Edit: my gpu thermals are hot despite having many fans 85-88c underload on 4K
@@luckisnoexcuse9 oh damn really? I’ve been pretty lucky cooling wise, under heavy load I’m only peaking at 78-79c usually and I’ve done some over clocking as well. CPU temps are also rarely above mid-40s. I’m running a Z63 (280mm) kraken and some 140mm AER2s on the top and back in an H510 Flow and it manages to stay pretty cool. Yeah man I have a bad habit of picking expensive hobbies but hey, what else are we working for?!? Enjoy it man, good luck on the case
@@Cableread1213 those are good temps!! My cpu is always at 30 at idle and when full load around 45-47c my room is always at 22C, and I have 3 120m fans on the front, im pretty sure is just my case because the gpu is so big it couldn’t fit at first because of case design. I had a 3060 ti before running and max temp was 78-79. And ikr we work hard our asses so we deserve it!! Regards man
Im looking at the Warzone stats and Im wondering why the 3080ti uses all of the available VRAM and so does the 3090, 12 and 24 G, but there is no performance benefit. Whats going on? I think Im gonna go for 3080ti on that basis.
people here keep forgetting that a 3090 is basically a Titan tier card. with the amount a vram and Tflops it has it can serve 11 years and more while still packing a punch, while its targeted use case is for complex rendering. same goes for 3080 ti. and yeah, the price on those two beasts are shit, but for guaranteed long term serviceability i personally wouldn't mind paying the MSRP price for one of those cards.
i don't understand how the more expensive cards also have worse temps and much higher power draw i mean wtf is the point of then being expensive at first place? they should be better in those areas
Me: Thinks of how he has three cards. Impressed of how they run 42 fps in cuperpunk. Also me: tries to test my card and can’t even run mc with 2 chunks 😅
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MSI RTX 3080 Suprim X 10GB - geni.us/hPn9p
MSI RTX 3080 Ti Suprim X 12GB - geni.us/SREM1Qg
MSI RTX 3090 Suprim X 24GB - geni.us/I0af
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Streacom BC1 Open Benchtable - geni.us/9PgRsf8
*3DMark - Time Spy (Graphics Score):*
3080: 17.842 | www.3dmark.com/spy/20775805
3080Ti: 19.949 | www.3dmark.com/spy/20776346
3090: 20.213 | www.3dmark.com/spy/20776115
*3DMark - Port Royal:*
3080: 11.749 | www.3dmark.com/pr/1071233
3080Ti: 13.474 | www.3dmark.com/pr/1071206
3090: 13.648 | www.3dmark.com/pr/1071260
🎮 *Games*
00:00 Intro
00:12 Outriders
00:58 Assassin's Creed Valhalla
02:00 Dirt 5
03:10 Red Dead Redemption 2
04:26 Cyberpunk 2077
05:43 Cyberpunk 2077 - Ray Tracing
06:51 Days Gone
07:56 Horizon Zero Dawn
09:11 Call of Duty: Warzone
The 5950 is a very nice CPU. My 10900k is still rocking hard but you are averaging 7-8 more fps in Cyberpunk with your CPU. Nice! I like that you are benchmarking with very high quality settings at 1440p and 4k resolutions. That's what many of us want to see.
offer here $1470 for 3080 TI, is good one?
I could get 3080 TI for $1450 but the vendor just told me its gone, now he offers me:
3070 for $950
3060 TI for $770
3080 for $1350
I thought take 3080 TI to skip few gens ahead, but if I cant get 3080 TI for this price, then I rather take mid-range and possibly upgrade in next gen or gen after next.
Thoughts on what should I do?
P.S. I did a mistake, 2 weeks ago got 6700 XT for $1000 (money i reserved for major upgrade), realized this card isnt for me as it doesnt do well in RT, i sold it for $800 few days after got it... so I really need make the right choice and not lose money again.
Help me with your opinion,
thanks!
3DMark - Time Spy (Graphics Score): MSI 3080 SuprimX 18 587
3DMark - Port Royal: 12 399
@@GamersGuard very good i search a lot and didnt find that price right now
Great to see Ubisoft games running at 50 fps while looking like a 2015 game 🤣
2015 had good looking games, that's flattering for them lmao
AC Valhalla is a AMD sponsor game and heavily favor it's gpu.
Which one looks like 2015 game? Valhalla? U blind or something.
@@yellowflash7696 bro that game just doesn't look good enough to justify it's performance. For a modern game, it's pretty disappointing
@@yrh002b8 i have rx 6900 xt and i got 40 55 fps ............ at 2k
Gaining 2 FPS by just $1000 more, sounds like a great deal to me
nice now that the 3090 is only $979 rofl and has twice the ram
why you want use 24gb vram for gameing, thats a worstation card.
3080ti is the same card with half of the vram.
@@braina-kustic493 Because it's usually being sold for like the exact same price. There's no reason not to get a 3090 if you were gonna get a 3080 ti.
@@denniss4951 got my 3080 for $400 so I'm happy enough with that.
@@Rico24337 it isn't the same price, like the 3090s other cards have dropped to. Where the 3090 is now around 1000 or a little less the 3080 is around $550 and the 3080ti around $650-$700
Didn’t realise how close performance was between the 3080ti and the 3090
Your face tells everything
The 3090 is best for workloads and not gaming. The advertising of the 3090 is incredibly dishonest and bad business practice.
You'd have to go 8K to see a meaningful difference.
@@atheosathonille130 technically it was designed to do both, why do you think it can beat out a 3080 ti just barely
It's because most games use hardly any vram
Welcome to another episode of watching videos on things I can’t afford👍
same
@Bryce Czirr
How so?, this graphics cards are everywhere in my country, they are highly priced and not worth buying right now though, did you mean they are hard to find at reasonable price?, then I agree with you completely.
Welcome to another episode of watching benchmarks on things I can afford but can't find or get scalped on 💪
@@AntonioKH2 he worded it very clearly in his comment🙄
if u want it then work for it and keep watching these videos to get excited and motivated! i know all of ya'll can do it best of luck!! peace
3080ti should be named as 3090 LITE
BETTER NAME 3090 STOCK!!!!
3080ti = 3090 in games. noice.
yeah its a dumb card though that should never exist in the first place
@@hircine92h which one?
@@berndderhenker5546 his mother
@@ThrallFrostwolf7 fr salty af he can’t afford any of them
@@rosg9739 I have a 3090 and hes right lmao… 3080ti is just a money grab by nvidia. 10 more fps (which you wont notice irl) for 50% more price than the 3080. I guarantee you’re too poor to afford any of em too
I ordered my 3080 two days ago. Glad I ordered it for a huge price margin against the 3080 Ti, because those 10 fps it has on the 3080 are NOT worth $500.
3080 is more expensive than 3080 TI right now 😅. Glad I ordered 3080ti its a beast 😀💪
@@mateuszbyk5795 To each his own. The 3080 Ti IS a beast.
Hmm let's see I paid $1500au for my 3080
And they are selling the 3080 ti for around $3200au hmm seems fair lol
@@seanjones6683 Hmm lets see Ipaid 1900€ for my 3080ti and they are selling the 2080 for 2200€ Hmm seems fair looooool 🤣😂🤣 i know peepojealous 😄
It should be 3080 instead 2080. Cant even edit my post, iphone is a fkn garbo 😂
so sad you could get any of these cards and your still just a few fps from one another, the 3000 series, what a horrible horrible generation and to think these cards were selling at up to 4g's at one point, the TI increased their price by 100's all for 3-10% insane times
As someone who upgraded from a 3080 to a 3080Ti I can tell you its not worth it. Only reason I can justify it is because I was able to sell my 3080 at 3080Ti cost otherwise you are spending over $500 more for a few frames.
i'm more about the extra vram/memory for rendering, contact creating. I didn't have a 3080, but i just upgraded from my old 1050 GTX to Rog Strix 3080 TI.
I could have had 3080 but i decided to wait out the rumors because i know there's always a TI coming up. for gaming not so much difference but Nvidia alwaystake the errors from the vanille version to improve the TI version as the answer, at least at the rendering department i'm sure it's better, i glad i watied it out.
Is it worth it from a rtx 3070 to a 3080 ti
@@pootsplasencia4846 obviously you'll get more power, but 3080 TI cost like a 3090 now minus the memory. might as well wait for price drop and if u want to sell ur 3070 to use th emoney for 3090 go for it, otherwise no.
@@pootsplasencia4846 nope it is not worth it. Better upgrade to 4080 or 5070 when they are out. Same generation is simply not worth it.
I'm upgrading from 1060 to 3080ti, hope that's worth, wanted to get a non ti but it's not available.
the 3080ti is practically the same as the 3090 by comparing the FPS ...
Yeah, and it's cheaper, it meant for gaming so u don't need 24GB.. from 3090,
3080ti offers 12GB brings same performance and its enough for gaming.
@@mustafashihab180 You forgot to compare it to the 3080 as well.
3090 is a disgustingly bad deal, 3080 ti is a slightly less shit deal, 3080 is an amazing deal
@@lolickypeepee23xdd6 **for 4k gaming*
@@AurumFaber tru, ig if u wanna do 1440 3060 ti is the best with 3080 for 4k
The price difference for the 3080 TI doesn't seem worth it. I have a 3080 but was just curious to see what I was missing. Turns out not much.
Nope. Even if you had the option to trade it in for the difference it still isn't worth it.
If you have a 3080 your not missing on much. But if we don't then we are missing out on a lot.
Yep. Use resizable bar, overclock and use the 450 bios for Nvidia. Anyone buying the 3080 Ti or 3090 are pissing their money away.
@Salt Maker anyone dropping over a grand for a card isn't broke😂... we also stay not broke by not wasting money.
yeah for 10-15fps more i dont think its worth 400euro more, im waiting for rtx 4000 series, but if i was in a hurry i deff go for 3080 and not 3080ti, as i said 400euros more for 10-15fps, and tbh its not even 10fps diff if u want the video carefully
Ah yes. The 3080, 3080ti, and the 3080ti but with more memory.
Lol, glad I didn’t wait for the 3080ti like some people said. It’s a rubbish value for money and honestly the gpu situation is worse now. Glad I got a 3080, which along with the 3060ti are the best value for money cards
3080 ti is basically getting the same performance as a 3090 with a cheaper price tag. It's worth it.
@@lottexy I didn't buy a 3080ti. I have a regular 3080. The 3080ti is bad because who is it for? Not for video editors because they need 24GB VRAM and it's certainly not for gamers as you can just OC a 3080 and be on par with it.
@@silverwatchdog you can also with extreme overclocking knownledge squeeze quite a gap of performance and buy a custom waterloop for it making it easily on par with the fe
@@silverwatchdog Lol the 30 series cards are notoriously bad overclockers. You are NOT going to overclock a 3080 and get the same performance out of it as a 3080 Ti or 3090 no matter how hard you try.
@@Dagger_323 True, but I got to overclock mine 1000 points away from a top tier EVGA FTW ULTRA 3080ti in time spy, which means I am getting 95% of the performance of it. Of course, real-world performance differences could be less, but a 5% margin is pretty close. Maybe with water cooling, it's possible to match a stock AIB 3080ti and even beat the FE, but either way, it's totally not worth the extra $400.
Edit: Forgot to mention, mine is the Gigabyte Gaming OC, so a midrange AIB. Maybe I just won the silicon lottery with it because I can get 2050MHz stable out of it.
I was gonna upgrade from my 3080 to a 3080 ti, but it really doesn't seem worth the extra money. I don't think the extra 5-7 fps second extra is worth a few extra hundred dollars. Besides, at 4k and Ultra settings, I always get well over 60 fps easy, unless the game only goes up to 60 fps. Perhaps I should just be cool with what I have and stop being greedy for extra crumbs.
If I already had the 3080 I would t do such a small upgrade wait till the 4000 series comes near December or January you’re not missing out with such a small upgrade 3080 is still a monster.
@@Twitch.whitehat98 Yeah. That's what I am thinking.
That power usage difference between the 3080 and 3080Ti is massive. Not sure it is worth that much extra on my utilities bill for only on average a 10 FPS difference.
Finally someone sees its from this side also! People seem to never take into consideration the power and how fast it can raise the electric bill.
it also runs 10 degrees cooler on average
only 40w more is huge 😃
@@xMACHOxMANx I don’t even see a change on my electric bill
@@xMACHOxMANx some quick math at 18 cents a kWh when using your PC 6 hours a day at 700W is about $22.68 a month. If your PC was 800W then that will increase by about $3 to $25.92 or about 14% plus/minus per 100W. Not much but something to consider.
i want a 3080 ti at msrp maybe by the time that could even be close to happening the 40 series shitshow will have started
Word I just got the 3060 for the original msrp by luck because a guy just returned it , gonna wait until the 40 series to drop so I sell my 3060 and 2060 to get it
Well, 3080 Ti is getting very close to MSRP these days because its overpriced from the start :D but at least one doesn't feel like an idiot in case of 3080, which is double the price.
The 40 series will come at 2024. Every four years a new generation. Its that simple! So dont wait 3 more years!
@@JTMGJTMG every 2 years is a new generation, 4000 series is expected to come out in 2022
Somebody explain to me why I should spend 600 bucks more for 10FPS
Guys just think of the 3090 as the titan. Its exactly how the titan was when it was the best card out. double the price and a couple more fps.
Yeeeaahhh... The only liiiitle problem is that 3080Ti now (Sept. 10th 2021) costs EXACTLY the same money as 3090 costed when I bought it almost a year ago, and has twice less VRAM, what may (or may not) have some impact on future games
@@julienlauzon1106 GPU mining is "likely" to pretty much die in Q1 2022 with ETH2.0. Once the 4000 series is launched the resale value will likely half, nothing new. Secondly the 3080TI is the same poor value for mining as the 3090, as its now about 70% the mining performance with the NBminer unlock, BUT at 70 % of the price of the 3090, pretty much even.
Usually i would say for gaming only pick a 3080 Ti and if you render or edit in any way you should go with the 3090 .... but currently it´s more like .... take what you get. LoL
@@Durion7 please tell me where the fk u can get a rtx 3080 for $700? Cause cheapest one is found is $1550 plus tax and shipping. And 3080ti for $1650-1700.
Don't look at that 10% performance. You are getting 2 GB extra VRAM. I know it doesn't sound much but games at 4K are already using more than 8GB VRAM and I wouldn't be surprised if the next year releases will use 10+ GB VRAM. Just look at COD Warzone Vram usage. Don't just see the fps. More VRAM will provide a smoother experience.
8 to 12 fps increase in the 3080ti vs 3080 for nearly double the price..
Between 8 to 10% increase.....
Work that out for yourself...
Thank you for your hard work! In Russia, these video cards cost a lot of money and we still need to look for them. But judging by the tests, you should not take the RTX3090, since in modern games the usual RTX3080 is enough, but the RTX3080Ti surprised me. I think with the need for the amount of video memory, the last two video cards will be in priority. I'm still sitting on a GTX 580 and watching your video is very painful for me, because I can't afford these video cards and I think many will not be able to.
don't abandon hope brother , I have a GTX 950M (laptop) and I finally bought a MSRP 3080 Ti. I hope you will soon be able to do the same
i am on intel hd graphics 😭
@@xguert lol bro same sh.t my i3 8100 got too much graphic power lmao
Start saving NOW. For a 3080TI or a 4070 or 4080 which will run anything for a very very very long time- when it comes out then wait a little while after that. Gives you years to save up.
@@BattleBrotherCasten When you save up for RTX3080, it will be no longer relevant. And over time, when the years pass, I will no longer be interested in games.
clean your pc just a bit and your 3080 ti will be 3090
And for about $1000 less.
I mean the retail price are meaningless coz you can’t get this card at this price. Now in aus the 3080 is about $2250 and the 3090ti is about $2550. Obviously at this price the 3080ti worth the extra money
Please include Flight Simulator 2020 in your tests!
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3080TI,3090 garbage versions extra 5-10 fps in the AAA titles xD rtx 3080 monster
3080 is the best buy unless you can find a 3080ti cheap
Is it worth it to have $750 for light-used RTX 3090 tho?
@@alexlim7534 Absolutely. Just gotta go with what you can afford.
Can’t believe the only 3080’s that are available these days are going for the price of what a beast pc would get you not too long ago
Indeed, a very sad development right now
Yep, I feel like the crypto appeal of these cards are gonna fade pretty rapidly with the advent of proof of work. There is certainly an unprecedented demand in the consumer market as well as a ton of people are switching to pc.
Just goes to show that the 3090 is a complete waste of money for gaming when it's only 1 or 2 fps difference between it and the 3080 Ti
Am I the only one that feels dissapointed that the most powerful gpus around still cant run 4k @120 fps? Like 4k @ 60fps seems like it shouldve been done years ago. Plus, im using a 2070 super and I can play 4k @ 50fps on avg so an extra $500 for 10fps avg? Was that really worth a whole new gen? Ill wait
Yup, it's basically double the price of an RTX 3080 but with 10% more performance. We're entering the realm of diminishing returns.
They probably already have the technology, but purposely limit the specs for business/marketing purposes.
@@calvinli6366 That's most likely what's happening. And AMD follows the trend. A tacit agreement between the latter and Nvidia.
@@SamSpeed90 You both have a point but it's more about cutting down the costs of manufacturing. Same how a $10,000 TV from ten years ago would be worth like $200 now. At that time it cost that much to produce. I believe we are on the forefront of video technology. The 'better' stuff does exist, its not being hoarded because there's no benefit to that. Is being further researched past its invention to reduce manufactering costs.
i play at 3440x1440 and went from 2070 super to a 3080. My fps literally doubled or in some games more than doubled.
thanks for the separate cyberpunk test with rtx and without rtx
Can’t wait to get my 3080 TI in a couple of months. Been saving and unless there’s a major GPU upgrade/CPU upgrade I’m looking pretty good for the next 5 years lol damn thing runs almost like a 3090
Yeah but that 12gb of Vram is going to kill ya. Many games at 1440p ultra take up 8 to 10gb. 4k many almost hitting 12 already. 3080ti caps at 12
@@vossiapollo2978 I’m curious which new games go over 12gbs of vram, I really don’t think there are many
@@vossiapollo2978 10gb is going to be dead not 12gb
@@vossiapollo2978 but thats all just the vram they gonna allocate and not the used vram.. they will allocate as much as they can, like a 6800xt with 16gb uses same percentage of vram like a 3080 with only 10gb.. so thats not the real usage of the vram. so it will be easy for 2-3 years with 10gb of vram
@@tikurai4970 yes that is very true I have a 3080ti that has 12gb and some games if I play on Ultra are almost hitting 10 at 1440p. Not many games just very graphical games. And with consoles having 16vram these games aren't slowly down anytime soon so in a year or two Ultra on a 3080 is gonna be pushing it. But 90 percent of the games the 3080 will be fine just those crazy games like red dead
Short wonderful time when my RTX 3080 TI was almost the best GPU. Then 3090 TI, 4090...
SAME lol
3080 TI will be a great buy in 2-3 years when its $500 in the used market
In 2-3 years OLED 3840x1600 or 4K 16:9 will be the norm and we will be fighting over 4000 series cards or camping out at BB for a 5070 or 5080 launch. Its not gonna get better till 2023 and that's being optimistic...
Lol not gonna happen, even 2080 right now costs almost double what it did when it came out. GPU supply is gonna be low for a long time because of the supply chain getting destroyed. That coupled with insane inflation rate this price might never go down if anything it'll go up.
@@scottyd035ntknow 2023? What are you an optimist?
@@zhenyucai8688 OR digital currency will go to shit and all the mining cards will be useless, flooding the market making the price drop more than grandmas titties. I wait for this moment.
There are used 1080tis that are over $1000. If anything 3080ti will increase in value.
So, I'd definitely buy a 3080 TI over a 3080 for around the 20 more frames per second that it provides, but to buy a 3090 over the 3080 TI is pointless and not worth all of the extra money as you can clearly see that it only offers (literally) a few frames per second more than the 3080 TI. I mean honestly, some of these cards are a complete waste of space. What the fuck do they be thinking about when they make most of these cards? Ironically, with the way these non-msrp prices have been, the 3080 and the 308 ti have been seen at the same price point, while the 3090 is like $1,000 more lol. It's totally ridiculous out here right now.
My county 3080 is more expensive than 3080 TI.😅
Wow, that's very odd. But hey, on the bright side, about 10% more power for a cheaper cost.
Same over here in Norway it seems.
Due to the mining profitability. If the miners bypass the LHR, the Ti will be the more expensive one.
@@kimnielsen8183 ok, sick
So what I can see from this is the 3080 Ti is essentially a 3090, but for $300 cheaper and with 12GB Less VRAM, which is still a great amount for gaming (Not to mention the RTX 2080 Ti had 11GB of GDDR6 VRAM, which is 1GB less than the 3080 Ti.
What I suggest is if you have a low/mid range 20 or 30 series card, and want a better one, get a 3080. If you're like me though and have a 1660 Ti, or any 10 Series GPU, get a 3080 Ti (OR a 3090 if you mainly use GPUs for Productivity)
@@ok-70707 I would only wait for those if you want to buy 3080-3090 for cheaper cuz that power draw is gonna be nasty
@@JayFRL Yep, exact reason I'm not waiting for the 40 series even though I'm gonna be shopping for a gpu around September. I just got a new SF750, no way in hell I'm spending money on ANOTHER psu. And plus all my custom sleeved cables will become incompatible and I'll need to get a new pcie 5.0 one, and the skinny 5.0 cable doesn't even look as good as triple 8-pin cables.
Hopefully, when Direct Storage and Nvidia IO are released we will see a huge jump in performance in 4k gaming.
Is this sth that comes with the next generation?
DLSS already made that jump.
The new 4000 series cards are pushing 120+ fps with raytracing at 4k. Monster cards! They also need two nuclear reactors to power them. Im concerned about that. I feel like many homes are gonna catch fire with all that energy suction. 👀
@@biohead66 upscaling will never be the same as native in motion. Very very close but not the same
@@EarthWasHere no GPU can push 120+fps with ray tracing on modern games without DLSS or FSR
i mean a 3080ti is basically a 3090 just with less vram.
What kind of world we live in when these cards are so expensive? They should not be more than 1000 USD.
Keep in mind these cards are for super enthusiasts. They’re expensive to make but worth the cost for hardcore gamers, or even people who use it for gpu/cpu intensive work, ie CAD, 3D animation and game development. If you are not any of these people, then these cards are mostly irrelevant for your needs.
Then don't buy one? There are other options, you know.
Are you talking about scalper prices? then yea they are expensive.
@@enlargedquack so wait. i spend alot of money for a 3090, and get only 80fps in 1440p in valhalla???? WTF?! in which world these cards are powerful? 3D animation and game development? WHAT? what games? 8bit indie games? when there is a card who can make OVER 144fps in the newest games in 1440p and 4k, then were talking about graphic cards we dont need as normal gamers! the 3000 cards are just normal low power cards.
@@Skylda Valhalla is an intensive game, wouldn’t call it well optimized either. Not a fault of the card.
how r ur temp so fucking low jesus, i have a 3080 and when in playing red dead 2 on ultra i be hitting 81 degrees
Good shit, Thanks
3080 is the 10gb or 12gb version
3080 undervolt easy 250w power consumption and same performance, very good card 3080, I love it
I just got a EVGA 3070 Ti FTW3 Ultra and I entered into the EVGA Step Up program for a 3080. That seems to be a reasonable stopping point because the 3080 Ti was $500 more and it looks to be maybe only 8-10 FPS better (on average) than the 3080 - after watching your vid. Thanks for taking the time to do this.
3080 ti is light years ahead of the 3080.
@@MLGVashLive Not light years, but certainly a better card andcomparable to a 3090. I had to set a limit though. I could have gone to a 3090 but didn't want to pay that extra cost. Not worth it for my needs.
@@solson223 probelm is you’re comparing settings one aspect and not comparing different settings at same resolution. 1440p low settings they MIGHT be close but with the extra vram 1440p high settings you’ll see a significant drop in frames in comparison with the two
@@MLGVashLive I always compare cards at the same settings and resolution. I've done a lot of homework on the 3080 and 3080 Ti. In the current EVGA market, with the options available to me on an upgrade, the Ti is about $500 or more than the 3080. And that gets you 2GB more VRAM and less than 10 fps on average for gaming. Not worth the price jump for me.
Whatever makes you feel better lmao
So you're paying over $400 for an additional 7 frames per second. I see it as a total bargain if you ask me.
Or… You’re paying for what is essentially a 3090 with a $300 discount.
And once you start playing 4k gonna wish u had ti
Its pretty good deal
@@djentrification1631 I think more people don't look at it this way. I'm not saying the cost is good or bad. But if NVIDIA released the 3090 at $1,200 everyone would think it's incredible. So they did, called it a 3080ti, and everything thinks it's trash lol.
@@CosmicApe right but with the 3080 ti you're getting half the v-ram, I bought a 3080ti simply because that's all I could get that was atleast on par with a 3080 and I wish for the price it came with 16gb of vram. That would have helped justify my purchase a little bit more.
Ok 3080 ti it is 👍
glad i buy 3080 Ti. It's not worth jump to 3090 considering huge gap of price.
For those who are interested in 4K Gaming, anything above a 3080 GPU is pointless due to the fact that a 3080ti and 3090 only give a few more FPS. Plus, the three are at 99% regardless of Vram.
Well, you saved a lot of gamers' money. Thanks you! 8D
Id rather get 3080ti that cost 2600$ compared to 3080 that cost 2500$ aud.
@@chillingdog4139 if you got the money, then go for it. Its only a hundred dollar difference, plus it has 2GB of extra VRAM.
The rtx 3080ti should have been $1000.
@@rishirajsaikia1323 exactly. Should.
i have 3080 for a year and i was playing in 4k, pretty nice, but in newest games you can barely play on high to get 60 fps. i switched my monitor to 1440p 144hz and it beautiful, in rust, bf1 and other games i get 80-90 fps plus on ultra, and if you wanna go competitive you can get 144fps and more with lower graphics
SO basically get a 3060 Ti or a 3080.
yes.... but first... by pass the miners.
3070 is an amazing card as well if you can get FE
@@Blastros01 no
@@Blastros01 it's a good card but it's not worth it if you can get your hands on a 3060TI. Less money for nearly identical performance.
@@Blastros01 All the FE stock is over and highly doubt u can get a brand new one since they released the fe models only during launch and after a few months the production is stopped
06:18, that Music!!
I’m upgrading my graphics card to the 3090 TI from a 2080 super
I see a lot of people bash you the 3080 TI and I can understand why. However if you are looking for a no compromise 4K Ultra settings with Ultra Ray tracing and to still be able to hit that 60 FPS sweet spot or even higher then the RTX 3080 TI is the card to go for. Also if you are big into streaming games the extra power is definitely needed. It's pretty much a 3090 without having to pay a 3090 price.
What do you mean? MSRP $1,200 3080 Ti MSRP $1,500 3090 (300 difference for 12 More GB VRAM and 256 more CUDA cores) sure in most games it's just a few FPS. But the FPS difference between a RTX 3080 and an RTX 3080 Ti isn't that much either for the RTX 3080 $700 MSRP (that's $500)
@@indomidable yea but 3080´s sell for 1550€ and I can get a 3080ti for 1700 right now so a 150€ mark up is not that bad for a couple more fps
@@afox5319 where can you get a 3080 ti for 1700?
@@MSN539 uk Facebook 3080 ti £1200 English loads of them on there
@@MSN539 there’s one on there now 3080ti suprim 12gb X for £1099 the guy has ten of them boxed sealed
The price diferrence of 3080ti 12gb and 3090 24gb on Amazon in our country is basically almost double, and yet unless the performance shown here is lying , its literally the same !!!
I think I will wait the next year or 2… and stay with my Vega 64.
the super high prices and unavailability are not funny anymore.
Lol don't worry. When I bought the 8800 GTX, I waited until the GTX 580. After that I got the Vega 64 and still happy.
if u have Vega 64 then there is no need to upgrade lol
You think it’s gonna be better in 1 or 2 years? Trust me it’s not..
i regret not getting vega 64 for a steal when i had the chance
lol, so people are paying a extra 500-800 dollars for a extra 5-12 fps... couldn't be me.
The 3080ti appears to be a dumb product. Remember the 1080ti vs the 1080? Now that was a proper TI upgrade.
The 1080 Ti was a fluke. It was one of if not _the_ biggest price to performance powerhouses that Nvidia has ever released. It was _too_ good, which is why it remained relevant for over three years after its release. You're not likely to ever see that kind of performance gap again with any future xx80 Ti card.
@@Dagger_323 no...I have paid the 1080ti 999€ and my 3080 999€ too....it's the same....
@@kolysion164 You didn't understand what I said lol. I'm not talking about the price, I'm talking about the price to performance _value._ The 1080 Ti still offered the biggest performance gain for the money over its predecessor than any flagship GPU has since.
@@Dagger_323 the 3080 is far more powerfull for the same price....and it's always +30% vs previous generation and I have DLSS with rtx....so no sry
@@kolysion164 You, yet again, didn't understand what I said. Obviously the RTX 3080 is a more powerful card. It still doesn't offer the same performance lift from the 2080 Ti that the 1080 Ti did over the 980 Ti. That was my point, which I've had to reiterate for the third time now. And if you think there is an exactly 30% performance improvement every single generation then you obviously have never done any research into comparison benchmarks.
I’m glad I bought my 3080TI. Same gaming performance as a 3090 and not nearly as thick of a card. Plus a tad cheaper at the time.
I don't wanna spend an extra $1,000 for a 3080 ti from 3080 for just 10 more frames lol (for aftermarket GPU)
Ye happy I got my 3080 was going to wait for to or 3090 but think I picked well lol
the ti isn't 1000$ more is it? it should only be about 500$ more. still a lot but don't think it's a 1000. the 3090 is a 1000 more
@@2cool0 everything is well over priced don't think that will change unless you are happy waiting a year
@@2cool0 it's only like $200-300 different
@@techfan1017 thats most definitely not true ti’s are either sold out or $2300+
Why does everyone care about cyberpunk? Like... it plays at 1440p just fine or 30fps 4k. Why do they need it 4k 60? They act like if it dont play well then other games wont too or even future games wont. Might not be a game like cyberpunk for 6 or 7 years. Not like they can do anything about it either. Gonna make cards come out or pay 2000 or 1500 dollars to play cyberpunk???
Yeah definitely still 3080 is the best value lol. I noticed a lot of games are just not optimized though. 4k shouldn't drop frame rates to the 40s on a high end card.
*"I notice a lot of games are just not optimized though."*
Oh, you noticed that? :P
Ever since the Great Consolization of 2008, no major AAA game has been designed, coded, or optimized for PC hardware or the sensibilities of the PC market. The last AAA PC game was Crysis (11-13-2007), unless you count the standalone expansion Crysis: Warhead and The Witcher: Enhanced Edition (both released on 9-16-2008).
@@bricaaron3978 I don't think I would say none but most yeah. And of course unless you go to the highest end like the 3090, and still may see some under 60fps like in Cyberpunk
@@Blessindisguise You can't determine coding/optimization by framerate alone -- you have to take into account what is actually being processed.
E.g. many people think that DOOM 2016 is amazingly "well-optimized" because it gets such high framerates. But the fact is that DOOM 2016 is simply not a very demanding game.
It's not _poorly_ coded, but at the same time it doesn't have a huge open world like most modern AAA games, it has no AI routines, no interactive environments, no physics....there's simply not much going on and not much to process compared to most other AAA games.
DOOM 2016 definitely is a great modern FPS, though!
3080? Lol you can't even get your hands on one at MSRP.
@@zhenyucai8688 facts
I'm so glad I saw this video because I would beat myself up for not getting the 3080ti. 30 or more watts on the 3080ti for only 10-15 frames? that's like $20-$30 more on electricity bill every month. not worth it.
People are not buying the 3090 for gaming. They're buying it to use with rendering software that utilizes the GPU instead of the CPU.
streamers are buying it for gaming lol
but thats bc they have fuck you money
The best 3090 is the 3080Ti
Speaking MSRP only. The 3080 Ti can be seen as a cheap 3090 and at the same time be seen as a rip off 3080. But both the 3080 Ti and 3090 are basically a rip off 3080. Think about it. At base, you are paying $500 dollars more for a 3080 Ti from 3080. $500 dollars for barely more than 10 FPS on some games and less than 5 FPS more on some other games. You are looking at an average of a handful FPS for $500 dollars. $500 dollars is another GPU (3060/3070) for a second GPU set up along side a 3080. Don't waste your money on a 3080Ti or 3090 if you are just gaming.
Yep. The 3080 and 3060 Ti are seen as the value choices in their respective performance brackets. I went all in for a 3080 because the 3090 did not make sense to shell out for at the time (Dec 2020) and still does not unless you're comparing it to the 3080 Ti now.
@@Oppaismasher I think value is more 3060Ti. The 3080 is still extremely expensive for a GPU at MSRP. The 3080 ranges from $800 to almost 1K depending on which one you get. Its just that the 3080Ti isn't worth $500 dollars more for 2 extra GB of VRAM and for a handful of extra FPS.
Even if I had a lot of money, I wouldn't pay $500 to get 10 tires. The RTX 3080 has enough power to run and edit games. 3080ti and 3090 are no different in power than the 3080, but the quality of the 3090 and when gaming monitors are available in 8K resolution and high frequencies at 240Hz or 144, so you can buy an RTX 3090 to play games in 8K, and even if gaming monitors are available in 8K, it won't help me Also most of the international games do not support 8K resolution and it will be a waste of money and no benefit and the best card for everyone now is only RTX 3080
I have the 3080 Gaming OC since last December and couldn't be more happy. I game at 1440p which is like a walk in the park for my beast :D
Me too. Mine is just little too hot, and bit loud, but performance is crazy. EDIT: Mine is Evga
@@lobobaltazar1322 hey I have a evga 3080 they run hot out of the box try changing the power and clock speed curve in msi afterburner. Got mine to run at 2100mhz boost on air cooling never gets over 70c
@@seanjones6683 If by chance You have time, can You put screenshot of Your curve/power to imgr or some servis :) Only if You have spare time ofcourse. Btw I hoped to get a lot of boos in Escape of Tarkov, but game is not optimized.... other games are smooth as silk but not Tarkov ahaha. I have 3900x tho, had to limit to first ccd with project lasso got a lot of improvement from doing that.
2023 - I get RTX 3080 Gaming Z Trio at 390usd
Maybe with the next generation of video cards, we can talk about adequate 4K for triple A titles. This generation is doing great in 2K and I think that's its target. My target is at least 100 FPS in 4K in triple A titles, but for now in most new ones it is not possible if you do not reduce the graphics settings.
The next gen gpus are predicted to switch to a MCM architecture which is rumored to be double (some people say triple) the performance of the 6800xt and 3080. It’s not a perfect linear conversion, but that should get us to a consistent 100+ fps in 4K.
Of course it’s still rumors but, like you, I really want to be able to play AAA titles in 4K while getting +100 fps. I think next gen might finally accomplish that
I game at Ultrawide, and this gen can't do that in a lot of games either.
Honestly 1440p is where it’s at right now. 4K at anything less than 60 fps is not appealing to me at all. I am loving 60+ at 1440p max settings on my 3080 though. At least we can say 1440p is now ready to replace 1080p (except for like e sports and competitive gaming maybe)
You can already get 90-100fps in some AAA games with it. I am fine with 60fps in AAA games as most times they are single player games.
@@kyzyl4915 Imo you guys didn't take into account DLSS too. It is the feature that can make these games run at 120+ FPS @ 4k.
i think i'll go with 3080, 10 to 20 fps boost just dont worth the price since i have 1440p monitor it'll be decent for my system paying for 20 more fps sounds so stupid in case of running on my 4k tv I would prefer to just manage Graphics settings just to get 60 fps sounds fine to me, Nvidia such a greedy company the way they put the price GPUs
9:55 Ah yes COD eating 22GB vram... easy snack lol
no thats showing how much vram does graphic card had
@@svenosojnik6651 Uhm no lol... the 3090 has 24gb
Correct me if I'm wrong, but I'm pretty sure that's only allocation not actual utilization of that VRAM.
Holy shit? It's using that much but no performance gain over 3080ti?
@Roas Metten I leave RivaTuner Statistics OSD on at all times.
I own several GPUs and PC's all with varying VRAM amounts. My RTX 3080 uses all 10GBs of VRAM at 1080p, 1440p and 2160p. Same goes for my GTX 1080 Ti. My RTX 2070 Super also used all 8GBs yet performed better than the 1080 Ti, even without DLSS on. My wife's RTX 3070 also uses all 8GBs. Remember all at different resolutions. All without performance drops. To me that sounds like allocation and not actual usage as there should be some sort of hiccup or performance loss to some extent. Especially at 2160p where the VRAM actually plays a role.
I am not saying with definitive proof that it is allocation. I am saying it seems like the most logical reason why some games shows that it is maxing your VRAM on a OSD. If you can answer with a more logical reason, through actual benchmarking and personal trial and error then please enlighten me. But don't say I never use MSI Afterburner based off my response on my thought on the situation.
Got my EVGA RTX 3080 FTW3 ultra gaming for $950. Sold my Asus Turbo RTX 2070 super for $550. I guess you can say i paid $400 for my 3080 😁
RTX 3080 still a beast though. Lmao those other 2 give just 4 more fps in Cyberpunk...
I agree with you 3080 and 3070ti are great card in middle price range.....this is really funny when Nvidia bring 3080ti and make the 3090 third wheel :)
@@brokensword2621 I think you didnt understand for whom the 3090 is. Nobody needs this much Vram, except creator. They need that power and vram. the 3090 and the titan rtx was never made for the normal gamer. But for the creator that need the extra performance but dont want to pay the much larger price-gab to get a quadro-card!
@@JTMGJTMG what is said I mean only for gamers and i know what you mean
lol
Warzone uses ALL Vram of a card? That's insane...
I just want to check if I did good by selling my RTX 3090 to get RTX 3080 and more money in my pocket. I m glad I m good to go even on 1440p monitor 🙂
If agree that ugly did good, 3080 is so close in performance it’s not worth the money for the 3090 unless you got money burning a whole in your pocket ya know
How much did you pay for your 3080 PC?
I JUST noticed that Warzone is using almost ALL VRAM even on the 3090 :O This is insane... that game is like the Google Chrome of gaming or something... It has no limits :/
Probably need to wait for next gen for more stable 4k raytracing GPU
for that much difference in prices, i'd say the 3080ti and the 3090 shouldn't exist at all
3080 ti only exists to justify the price of the 3090 and both arent worth it with how close they are to a 3080 in most scenarios. for $500 more youd think the 3080 ti would have 16gb of Vram not 12.
It's a watered down 3090 with half the ram.
Same tdp
Same bus width
Same L2 cache size
Same memory type
Same die
(Nearly the) Same memory bandwidth
(Nearly the) Same core count
Not a suped up 3080.
@@AurumFaber but at only 10% more performance it's basically a supped up 3080. Don't care about specs. In the end only performance matters. And both the 3080 ti and 3090 are just the equivalent of an above average overclock
@@baitreview there is a limit to graphical performance. It's still A LOT closer to the 3090.
I have a 3080 I will wait for a 4080.
@@kolysion164 See you in 6 years.
I have an 3080, honestly I would want a 3080 TI as it's better, but it's price (MSRP) is a little out of my budget, so I don't regret
You can sell your 3080ti and save a little more money
the difference between 3080 and 3080Ti is impossible to perceive.
I’m sticking with my 3060 until prices come down. But that 3080 ti is what I want
I just sold a kidney so i could get an 3080TI
price wise 3080ti is win, but 3090 is a tiny bit more future proof.
Not if, now the prices are relatively the same. Here in Austria you can even get the 3090 for cheaper than the 3080ti. (if it's used)
This video just saved me $250. I already ordered a 3090 and then I’ve seen 2 videos of the 3080Ti compared and they preform so similarly that I canceled the 3090 and got a 3080Ti. Thanks!!
worst time to buy a graphics card tbh
@@SH-cl7cc Say what? The 3080 FTW cards are going for under $800. The price gauging is over. My local Microcenter has 20 in stock.
@@SH-cl7cc yeah I’m not sure what you mean. I secured my GPU for several hundred under MSRP. If anything, it might be the best time to buy as Nvidia has an assload of 3000 series stock to dump to make room for the 4000 series.
these will be $600 by December
@@slumy8195 yeah last time I was told to wait, I decided to ignore that and paid a measly $70 over MSRP. A week later and the price on everything went up over $200 and kept climbing from there. Maybe they’ll only cost $600 by December, maybe they won’t. I’ll roll the dice, it’s paid for with tax return money anyway so I hardly care.
Happy with my 3080. the TI version is better (obviously) but not for the price difference.
The 3080ti just made the 3090 redundant. Whose going to pay an extra $300 for the same FPS ? And for value for money, the original 3080 beats them all hands down, as it is 'only' $699.
699? =))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))
Good luck finding a 3080 at $699.
I paid $1099 for my ROG strix 3080. Was I scalped?
@@terrauncebowie6712 You already know the answer. If you're not trolling then it's upsetting you paid a $400.00 price gouge.
As PC gamer I would tell anyone looking to build a system now to just wait. The ruthless and absurd price gouging with GPUs is pure insanity. A $49.00 - $69.00 4gb 1050ti is currently listed for $249.00. Let that sink in.
the people recommending 3090 are cooked, if you want to waste money 3090 is a great purchase but it's not actually a gaming card.
It's main purpose is 3d rendering in real time (like game development). There will be zero games in the next 5 years that needs 24gb VRAM (which is the only real difference between the cards) and in 5 years any new gen will destroy the 3090 even if it only has 12gb VRAM.
Don't buy a 3090 for gaming the only people recommending it only does so to try and convince themselves it wasn't a complete waste of money.
Basically, you don’t need anymore than a standard 3080. Because the ti and 3090 are only marginally higher FPS, for a stupid amount more money.
15 fps higher is not marginal. Nor is 10. Every fps matters if you play on 4k.
@@shadowheart5623 Firstly in most games it’s not as much as 15fps, and secondly when you’re getting 100/120+ FPS at ultra 4k, you really don’t need that extra 10 FPS. May as well wait for the 40 series if you want a meaningful jump. The 3080 released at $699, and the 3080ti released at $1199… absolutely no way is it worth $500 for 10/15fps.
@@shadowheart5623 It is marginal. Its marginal because these extra FPS are at already high FPS ranges. And a lot of the times, its not 15 FPS more. Its like less than 10 FPS more. These FPS are useless and literally can cost $100 per FPS depending on the math.
@@ESKATEUK A $500 difference for a few FPS is insane. You can buy another GPU (3060) with that money.
@@NissanSkylineVR30 precisely right mate
Those 400 watts really bother me. 32 cents per kWh is no joke in Germany.
Just wait for the 4000-series 😭
So glad I managed to order a 3080FE at MSRP back in december, It's easily the best value for your money and the best looking card in comparison with other brands :).
Sadly the only option I had was the 3090 fe at MSRP. I really wanted the 3080. The 3090 is just a huge waste of money
Idk about 'best looking'. Plus its heat dissipation isnt great
@@dazdanker2049 I think its the best looking and for €719 MSRP I can't complain lol :D
@@YouCanCallMeMich Well, looks are subjective and as long as you didnt overpay for it, its great
Got my Asus TUF 3080 OC for msrp back in November... Felt like winning a lottery
Strange ,should this not be, the higher the resolution the further apart ? But instead the 3080 closes in on the more expensive cards at higher resolution ? Than there is the Temp, the higher end cards get warmer and use more power !?
A 3080 cost at the moment 899 € and the 3080ti 1499€ and the 3090 1990€ (for only 10 frames more ? ) 3090 TI 2599€
I get confused
By the way I got a 3090ti liquid cooled for rendering and some ETS2 (but that's a howl different story )
But I want to replace my 2080ti also Liquid cooled (Eiswolf cooler) ,but I'm not sure with what?
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Lmao i got a 3080ti ftw3 for $824 from evga
I bought same but for 2k but I just wanted a card badly
HOw you get it for $824? I paid $1400 for mine.
@@joekiat3519 evga nee member coupon for 40 percent off
@@nonexistence8480 I didn't see that coupon. Lol. If it the spin the wheel coupon?
The 3080 Ti and 3090 dipping into the 40's on Assassin's Creed would concern me if I'd spent market rate on either of those cards.
That's not really justifying the big bucks is it?
RTX 3080 is where the value lies, if you can find one at a good price.
3080ti looks awesome!
Nvidia will try from july 2021 to slow prices coming down from miners rip off prices by launching zero fe 3080s ....lm sorry but unless your a games developer...1000 pounds on just a gpu is ridiculous...and lets no forget...ampere is NOT a step forward...the 3080 bears my 2080 super...but neefs a bigger heatsink and 100 watt bigger psu to do it.....thats not impressive to.me at all....u better waiting for rfna3 and nvidia 4000 ...and for prices to come down.
Having gone with the EVGA 3080 FTW3 12gb, and running it for a few months, I've been super high on it's performance. Got in May before the great crypto crash of 2022, so while I paid a bit more than I would've liked, running it with an i7-10700k, for 1080/1440 FPS gaming, it's literally perfect. Only problem I have now is just running out of justifiable upgrades at this point on the setup. Thanks for putting this together!
That is a really good set up 🤣, I have the same processor and a 3080Ti aorus master 12gb for 1440p/4K and my only issue is my case need to get a bigger one now! Hopefully there’s no more unjustified things to upgrade so you can save some money haha
Edit: my gpu thermals are hot despite having many fans 85-88c underload on 4K
@@luckisnoexcuse9 oh damn really? I’ve been pretty lucky cooling wise, under heavy load I’m only peaking at 78-79c usually and I’ve done some over clocking as well. CPU temps are also rarely above mid-40s. I’m running a Z63 (280mm) kraken and some 140mm AER2s on the top and back in an H510 Flow and it manages to stay pretty cool. Yeah man I have a bad habit of picking expensive hobbies but hey, what else are we working for?!? Enjoy it man, good luck on the case
@@Cableread1213 those are good temps!! My cpu is always at 30 at idle and when full load around 45-47c my room is always at 22C, and I have 3 120m fans on the front, im pretty sure is just my case because the gpu is so big it couldn’t fit at first because of case design. I had a 3060 ti before running and max temp was 78-79. And ikr we work hard our asses so we deserve it!! Regards man
Im looking at the Warzone stats and Im wondering why the 3080ti uses all of the available VRAM and so does the 3090, 12 and 24 G, but there is no performance benefit. Whats going on? I think Im gonna go for 3080ti on that basis.
Damn 3080 Ti is GOAT. Barley a difference between the 3090!
people here keep forgetting that a 3090 is basically a Titan tier card. with the amount a vram and Tflops it has it can serve 11 years and more while still packing a punch, while its targeted use case is for complex rendering. same goes for 3080 ti.
and yeah, the price on those two beasts are shit, but for guaranteed long term serviceability i personally wouldn't mind paying the MSRP price for one of those cards.
i don't understand how the more expensive cards also have worse temps and much higher power draw i mean wtf is the point of then being expensive at first place? they should be better in those areas
They are pushing limits with performance being the goal
Me: Thinks of how he has three cards. Impressed of how they run 42 fps in cuperpunk.
Also me: tries to test my card and can’t even run mc with 2 chunks 😅