No not unless they find different ways to use senna/seraphine. I think that's the main reason they got the early wins because they were one of the first to use enchanters.
Yeah, and honestly I skip 100T and TL games now too, there just aren’t interesting players on those teams. Fudge, Zven, Jensen, Blaber are all pretty funny players - And I think Vulcan is pretty entertaining on EG. Then there’s the gameplay aspect where 100t has been stagnating for the past 12 months and TL for whatever reason just doesn’t strike a chord with me, on top of kinda falling apart recently.
A sound tip, you should compress the soundfile so there's not as much variance in volume. Sometimes it's super loud and sometimes we can't hear dgon at all. Compress then adjust the volume.
I guess the fact I skipped all of the MSI recap chapter exemplifies how interesting MSI was. I watched every match since season2 for both NA and EU. This split I have watched about half of EU games and literally two LCS. Turns out I just dont care anymore. Burned out. Too many useless games everywhere. 75 crap games to get to a single bo5 at MSI... Two weeks of nobody-cares-matches before Worlds with the least amount of matches possible post-rumble/groups. 50+ games for 80% of teams to make it to playoffs in LCS.... and only the last 2(?) Maybe even only the finals itself having any potential of being even somewhat entertaining...
I would really want to know the opinions of LS and dom when it comes to rearranging pick bans and increasing bans like dota2 did. I just dont get it when LoL has more champions yet there are only 5 bans. While dota 2 has less heroes yet more bans. There is a reason why dota has almost 100% pick/ban while LoL is only ranging around 50%. And i dont care if pros have to learn more champs, thats their problem. This game has been on for 10 years. Its their job to learn and diversify.
The problem is certain role like ADCs would be unplayable with more than 15 bans because the meta atm is like 2 or 3 playable champions like Zeri Twitch Ezreal Lucian
@@hana_irl123 That would change it tho. Forcing teams to make sacrifices in the draft. Now its possible for both teams to just pick 5 meta champs and rotate them around each game.
@@XGifuX it would broaden the meta, we see it time an time again, a meta develops, teams start perma banning stuff, and all of a sudden people turn to a new pick that is one rung down the ladder on prio.
Dota has 100% P/B bc heroes are actually well balanced; at least half the champions are just trash at any given time. Most heroes can also be played in multiple roles in Dota, so there isn't an issue with a single "role" being banned out. All that being said, I agree that champ select could use more life
I feel like just making EU and NA best of 3's instead of best of 1's would make the regions more competitive, it doesn't seem like the players would mind either
The only people who cares about making Bo3 is the people running their leagues. Fans want it...players want it...caster want it...content creator want it. Executives with their excuses of "viewership numbers will drop". Well of course they will fucking drop if you pack 10 Bo3 Series in 2 days(Saturday and Sunday). The western executives are so obsessed with having games only in weekends instead of spread it out through the week like LPL and LCK do. They probably think ours brains can't comprehend the idea of seeing League of Legends from Monday to Friday. Spread it out and let people watch the teams they wanted to watch and skip the dogshit series. Is a team is dogshit they don't deserves the viewership either way and keeping it Bo1 is just hurting the competitive aspect of both NA and EU
@@RomnysGonzalez Bo3's have been attempted and it was the FANS who dropped the ball because no one wanted to site through 3 games of DIG vs Echo Fox. Fans will watch that for ONE game (begrudgingly) knowing that TL vs C9 or whatever is next, but no one's tuning in on a Tuesday night to watch bottom tier teams. And if you actively marginalize those teams you only create an even more massive divide between the Haves and the Have-Nots in the LCS/LEC. As it is now you can still see upsets in B01 which at least gives the weaker teams a little juice and a little hope, even if we all know they won't be there at the end of the season or have any chance in Playoffs.
LS has a whole video on the month of June. He was dealing with crippling depression and almost took his life in June and a possible cancer diagnosis it was hard to schedule time to film for LS and DGON has been casting WildRift in Singapore so that also made it hard to film facecheck.
What about Josedeodo? Hes been looking good, I know this was taken before this weekends games. Would he not get offers from c9, 100t, tl? Spica even. EG theres no way as Inspired has looked like the best jungler so far.
Would never care for v5 If it wasn't for rookie and IWD content. First you need an appeal, to me v5 being one of the best teams in the world, okay I'm listening. Dom going on how good rookie is made me start watching. Tsm just needs to start making engaging play, start entertaining the viewer not a hard concept they fail continously
Technically yes it restores 12% missing instead of 10% but I think the value is just the mana and permanent mana increase? I could be wrong but I think that's only 7-15hp on the gnar specific match up they were referring to and be also didn't ever use any of them
At some point LS will have to explain his reasoning on why the non-stat aspects of herald are outweighed by flat gold on a kill or two (I.E. map pressure both before/after being placed, damage on outer turrets unlocking map control earlier, etc), even in a world where herald only takes 2 plates
He's already explained on Twitter. Herald gives yourself 212XP 100G. When enemy kills Herald, they get 212XP 25G. If you spend time killing Herald. You can lose 1 or 2 turret plates. That's 320G. But the person farming those plates, also gets 270XP 105G from a regular minion wave. You're in more of a deficit if enemy gets 2+ minion waves or if cannon wave. Sure you can get 2 plates from getting a Herald charge. But you lose out on XP. Levels are increasingly harder to get. Each level up is roughly 500G. Getting Herald isn't worth it.
Heres the thing ppl would watch if the games are fun but in order to make the games fun you need to invest in the players first. Give them the environment to grow, competitive in international competitions this way in reverse in the long run this draw revenue through viewership etc. The longer regions lock themselves to a certain number of teams and auction them to the highest bidder, the gap will only widen causing more viewers to drop off and eventually the esports scene dying out off a certain region.
1:22:50 LS, that one social media influencer was hired by an NFL (i think?) team to be their social media manager. That's a model that League could maybe use
I disagree with the statement "People don't care about TSM content anymore". I have watched every episode of Legends and I will continue to as long as they are putting them out. The show "Players" is literally edited to feel like an episode of Legends.
IMT is unwatchable! The thing that amazes me is that IMT kept Revenge as their "star of the future" and he has been terrible the entire time, and they chose to dump their best player Insanity, only to replace him with POE who looked washed when he was on TSM and looks even worse now. Lost was their answer in the Bot lane? And poor Kenvi who had so much hype in Academy is now just thrown to the wolves on a horrible team, and with a MID so passive that even Spica couldn't bring him to life.
I would significantly prefer NA to keep the import rule. If NA teams are not any NA players I'm done watching. If someone gets their citizenship here. I consider them Americans. Even if it's not their native country. I'll go watch eu if NA does that
LCS needs some local events, look at what the LFL does. They do like two events per split, it's actual random regular season matches, it's the actual fkin div2 league of legends and it gets 100K+ viewers consistently. _(even more when that Karmine Corp org plays)_ In NA, I feel like you guys are just waiting for Finals, even "playoffs" are not watched. You come in the last days of whatever current split it is, ok which teams are playing in the finals ? this one, this one, this one and this one, ok cool I might be watching these, if I really don't have anything else to do... This is just lame. _(and I don't blame the viewers not being interested, it's riot's and the league's fault is what I'm saying)_
CLG is tied for first, do you think they can keep it up?
no
Short answer: no, long aswer: no, but longer. PS: I am happy for their success :D
As a resident clg fan, they'll crumble bout half way through and end up 8th.
Hell to the nah
No not unless they find different ways to use senna/seraphine. I think that's the main reason they got the early wins because they were one of the first to use enchanters.
Forget herald, LS tried to explain the math of 1 kill vs stealing scuttle to Blaber and it got him fired
Hard to navigate a tone deaf coach.
@@disturbed1734 being tone deaf when playing at the highest level isnt really tone deaf is it its called putting in work and sucking it up
Long live facecheck i keep thinking this show is dead and every time it makes it more special when i get to see a new episode.
Without costreams/liveviews there would be no way I'd ever watch a LCS match that isnt between C9 TL EG or 100T
without costream there would be no way I'd ever watch a LCS match period. quite sad actually
Co streams are so negative I think the official broadcast is much better it makes teams I don't care about fun to watch.
@@ericlashchuk2621 yeah flyquest is so fun to w....
Yeah, and honestly I skip 100T and TL games now too, there just aren’t interesting players on those teams. Fudge, Zven, Jensen, Blaber are all pretty funny players - And I think Vulcan is pretty entertaining on EG.
Then there’s the gameplay aspect where 100t has been stagnating for the past 12 months and TL for whatever reason just doesn’t strike a chord with me, on top of kinda falling apart recently.
I have a guilty pleasure for watching Reggie's hopes and dreams die and all he can do is watch while the failure traspires
Been waiting for this show to return for ages now, finally!
you tell em frosk!! people dont care about g4 content anymore
@@Teddy-se8qb I used to like her until she spew those sjw bullshit and being toxic af
A sound tip, you should compress the soundfile so there's not as much variance in volume. Sometimes it's super loud and sometimes we can't hear dgon at all. Compress then adjust the volume.
True ers
Yes please, it's unlistenable in the car without this fix.
I guess the fact I skipped all of the MSI recap chapter exemplifies how interesting MSI was.
I watched every match since season2 for both NA and EU. This split I have watched about half of EU games and literally two LCS. Turns out I just dont care anymore.
Burned out. Too many useless games everywhere. 75 crap games to get to a single bo5 at MSI...
Two weeks of nobody-cares-matches before Worlds with the least amount of matches possible post-rumble/groups.
50+ games for 80% of teams to make it to playoffs in LCS.... and only the last 2(?) Maybe even only the finals itself having any potential of being even somewhat entertaining...
I like after the whole LS C9 thing both Zven and LS came out of that with mutual respect for each other and their craft. Love to see it.
What happened between them??
@@MinteeMusic nothing in particular jus tthat LS complimented Zven on this show and the latter did the vice versa on LS's coaching philosophy in SI
I would really want to know the opinions of LS and dom when it comes to rearranging pick bans and increasing bans like dota2 did.
I just dont get it when LoL has more champions yet there are only 5 bans. While dota 2 has less heroes yet more bans.
There is a reason why dota has almost 100% pick/ban while LoL is only ranging around 50%.
And i dont care if pros have to learn more champs, thats their problem. This game has been on for 10 years. Its their job to learn and diversify.
The problem is certain role like ADCs would be unplayable with more than 15 bans because the meta atm is like 2 or 3 playable champions like Zeri Twitch Ezreal Lucian
@@hana_irl123 That would change it tho. Forcing teams to make sacrifices in the draft. Now its possible for both teams to just pick 5 meta champs and rotate them around each game.
@@helios9025 dude it's simply not a option for adc post galeforce nerfs.
@@XGifuX it would broaden the meta, we see it time an time again, a meta develops, teams start perma banning stuff, and all of a sudden people turn to a new pick that is one rung down the ladder on prio.
Dota has 100% P/B bc heroes are actually well balanced; at least half the champions are just trash at any given time. Most heroes can also be played in multiple roles in Dota, so there isn't an issue with a single "role" being banned out. All that being said, I agree that champ select could use more life
I feel like just making EU and NA best of 3's instead of best of 1's would make the regions more competitive, it doesn't seem like the players would mind either
Not just that but in bo3 its much harder for better team to get cheesed
The only people who cares about making Bo3 is the people running their leagues. Fans want it...players want it...caster want it...content creator want it. Executives with their excuses of "viewership numbers will drop". Well of course they will fucking drop if you pack 10 Bo3 Series in 2 days(Saturday and Sunday). The western executives are so obsessed with having games only in weekends instead of spread it out through the week like LPL and LCK do.
They probably think ours brains can't comprehend the idea of seeing League of Legends from Monday to Friday. Spread it out and let people watch the teams they wanted to watch and skip the dogshit series. Is a team is dogshit they don't deserves the viewership either way and keeping it Bo1 is just hurting the competitive aspect of both NA and EU
@@RomnysGonzalez Bo3's have been attempted and it was the FANS who dropped the ball because no one wanted to site through 3 games of DIG vs Echo Fox. Fans will watch that for ONE game (begrudgingly) knowing that TL vs C9 or whatever is next, but no one's tuning in on a Tuesday night to watch bottom tier teams. And if you actively marginalize those teams you only create an even more massive divide between the Haves and the Have-Nots in the LCS/LEC. As it is now you can still see upsets in B01 which at least gives the weaker teams a little juice and a little hope, even if we all know they won't be there at the end of the season or have any chance in Playoffs.
@@saintsataniko2116 and because of that we will keep sucking at international events
Missed you guys. Happy to see you back
Idk if there was drama i missed or why it took so long but glad its finally back damn
LS has a whole video on the month of June. He was dealing with crippling depression and almost took his life in June and a possible cancer diagnosis it was hard to schedule time to film for LS and DGON has been casting WildRift in Singapore so that also made it hard to film facecheck.
Yes the only reason to be on the G4 channel is here
Shoutout to Dgon for always saying "Nice" whenever 69 comes up! You the real mvp bro
HOLY WELCOME BACK
missed this show
34:29 If you see it, you see it.
Missed u
What about Josedeodo? Hes been looking good, I know this was taken before this weekends games. Would he not get offers from c9, 100t, tl? Spica even. EG theres no way as Inspired has looked like the best jungler so far.
Would never care for v5 If it wasn't for rookie and IWD content. First you need an appeal, to me v5 being one of the best teams in the world, okay I'm listening. Dom going on how good rookie is made me start watching. Tsm just needs to start making engaging play, start entertaining the viewer not a hard concept they fail continously
Yessssss!! We back !!
c9 with summit woulda been a epic team . fudge is to passive dosent push lead. summit might run it tho if blabber dosen't ward or gank for him
If you look close at the cards jensen and zven are both the right leg of exodia
When’s the next podcast? Need the tsm drama update
I love these videos, keep up the great work!
Thank god y’all back I missed this sm
Hm weird, i watch every face check and have for years but this is the first time didn't get notified
I love this podcast lets go boys
We back! Let's fucking go!
IT'S BACK!! 😎
Does anyone know what Jacob Wolf article LS is talking about? I want to read it.
You can take cookies on manaless champions unless they changed it. it gives them more % missing health instead of mana.
Technically yes it restores 12% missing instead of 10% but I think the value is just the mana and permanent mana increase? I could be wrong but I think that's only 7-15hp on the gnar specific match up they were referring to and be also didn't ever use any of them
Wow 2% more
Damn i kinda love this show
At some point LS will have to explain his reasoning on why the non-stat aspects of herald are outweighed by flat gold on a kill or two (I.E. map pressure both before/after being placed, damage on outer turrets unlocking map control earlier, etc), even in a world where herald only takes 2 plates
It's not worth rotating 5 players to it for a coin flip fight, which is what they do.
He's already explained on Twitter.
Herald gives yourself 212XP 100G. When enemy kills Herald, they get 212XP 25G.
If you spend time killing Herald. You can lose 1 or 2 turret plates. That's 320G.
But the person farming those plates, also gets 270XP 105G from a regular minion wave. You're in more of a deficit if enemy gets 2+ minion waves or if cannon wave.
Sure you can get 2 plates from getting a Herald charge. But you lose out on XP. Levels are increasingly harder to get. Each level up is roughly 500G.
Getting Herald isn't worth it.
Heres the thing ppl would watch if the games are fun but in order to make the games fun you need to invest in the players first. Give them the environment to grow, competitive in international competitions this way in reverse in the long run this draw revenue through viewership etc. The longer regions lock themselves to a certain number of teams and auction them to the highest bidder, the gap will only widen causing more viewers to drop off and eventually the esports scene dying out off a certain region.
1:22:50 LS, that one social media influencer was hired by an NFL (i think?) team to be their social media manager. That's a model that League could maybe use
corki mechanics are hard. tsm fans are looking at poe like you need to go but unfortunately there no other good mid laners .
Is Immortals really "trying" anything if they still have POE rostered?
I am commenting a day late but clg did slip to 2nd and now it is only EG who is in first
I hope LS gets what he needs from therapy. I support this move.
lets goo
I disagree with the statement "People don't care about TSM content anymore". I have watched every episode of Legends and I will continue to as long as they are putting them out. The show "Players" is literally edited to feel like an episode of Legends.
P O G
LS looked cute today :)
Blow up FQ get Tenacity, Sheiden, Touc, Yeon, Eyla?
lesss gooooo
LCS needs to hire Mr Beast to take over content creation
Prob cause hans and corejj arent v smart 🤓👍 good to me too
Forget caring, I am blocking all TSM content actively and campaigning against it.
Players should honestly go to try to play in Europe. NA is doomed for any aspiring pros
Finally that narcotics therapy ls.
IMT is unwatchable! The thing that amazes me is that IMT kept Revenge as their "star of the future" and he has been terrible the entire time, and they chose to dump their best player Insanity, only to replace him with POE who looked washed when he was on TSM and looks even worse now. Lost was their answer in the Bot lane? And poor Kenvi who had so much hype in Academy is now just thrown to the wolves on a horrible team, and with a MID so passive that even Spica couldn't bring him to life.
I would significantly prefer NA to keep the import rule. If NA teams are not any NA players I'm done watching. If someone gets their citizenship here. I consider them Americans. Even if it's not their native country. I'll go watch eu if NA does that
LCS needs some local events, look at what the LFL does.
They do like two events per split, it's actual random regular season matches, it's the actual fkin div2 league of legends and it gets 100K+ viewers consistently.
_(even more when that Karmine Corp org plays)_
In NA, I feel like you guys are just waiting for Finals, even "playoffs" are not watched.
You come in the last days of whatever current split it is, ok which teams are playing in the finals ? this one, this one, this one and this one, ok cool I might be watching these, if I really don't have anything else to do... This is just lame.
_(and I don't blame the viewers not being interested, it's riot's and the league's fault is what I'm saying)_
Dgon mumbling more through an episode…
Dom gives great takes, LS… not so much.
I heard LS say C9 is the best team in NA after 1 week with full roster.... i spilled my coffee in laughter
He didn’t say that though
you spilled your coffee in laughter to something that didnt happen, youre a bit crazy in the head
Man I hope g4 is compensating you guys properly because this channel is dead af lol
Talking about branding while uploading on g4 the worst pr team channel
IWD needs to learn to think before he talks otherwise he's going to continue spewing more and more BS.
Dgon is so cringe nothing original
LS praising FORG1VENGRE is everything I needed in my life.