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- Stray Kids a Short Guide NOT WHAT WE EXPECTED!
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I would consider this more of a funny guide than an actual "guide" to what Stray Kids has to offer. 😂
Agreed 👍
True, but sadly since it’s so old that has a lot of misinformation😭 (and a lot of younger numbers didn’t get as much s screen time) but it’s still funny so💀
@@HEEZZZ
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This guide is more a taster of their personalities than a guide to Stray Kids. The TeaNoSuga guides are probably the most thorough, the 2023 one is probably the most in depth and up to date. But the longer ones usually have good info in. The longer ones often have a lot of song clips in etc. too.
Yes we have the longer version we’ll start working on soon.
@@DANDJREACT th-cam.com/video/2uVUVPfQ4R8/w-d-xo.html this one is a year old but I would consider better than TeNoSuga. It gives a more information on the start of the group and a better picture of the individuals. Even if its a year old, the information is accurat and it's clear that the maker has given in depht picture on the group and individuals. (sorry for my eng.)
Their 2022 is slightly better so I recommend considering it too
@@saojjk thanks we’ll check it out 👍
this is definitely not the right guide for getting to know Stray Kids haha, but thanks for the reaction anyway
Yeah we realized that a little too late 😂😂
The guides a bit outdated so I'll just mention some extra things you'll probably need if you continue to invest reactions into Kpop and Stray Kids specifically.
- Bang Chan was born in Korea, then moved to Aus and then came back to Korea as a 13(?) year old trainee.
- There's no more 'sub' or 'main' positions anymore but you'll see that in a more recent guide.
- 5:29 Shipping culture is pretty big in Kpop so don't take it too seriously, it's mostly a joke (your expressions were kind of funny though, I cracked up)
- 7:49 This is called 'aegyo', it generally means cute behaviour. It really is just part of Changbin's personality at this point, he's a cute dude. You'll see it in other content outside of their music videos too, same with other groups.
- 12:05 Han's representative animal in the Skzoo franchise is a Quokka, which is why Chan said his name instead of the animal.
- 14:25 The joke is that side-dish in Korean is 'Ban Chan' so Felix made a pun by saying his favourite 'Ban Chan' is 'Bang Chan'.
- 14:41 This song is Miroh
- 14:50 This song is 3rd Eye
- 15:19 Day 6 are a really popular band, highly recommend checking out their music.
- 16:59 Maknae means youngest in Korean
- 17:54 This song is Levanter
- 18:26 The ears represent I.N's skzoo merch animal, which is a fennec fox. He's not a furry, at least to my knowledge (joke btw)
Highly recommend this guide as the next one. It's pretty long, but it's made really well and has all the necessary information too (not anything shocking like this one either). th-cam.com/video/Wvl5MSDif0s/w-d-xo.html
Thanks for this detailed information we found a couple of other guides we’ll react to in the next couple of weeks.
Thanks for your support 👍
@@DANDJREACTomg thank u❤
@@DANDJREACTthe most widely stay-approved guide is TeaNoSuga’s long but updated 2023 guide.
@@StaySiren do you have a link with English subtitles you can share with me? Thanks
th-cam.com/video/Wvl5MSDif0s/w-d-xo.html
JUST SOME VOCAB IF YOU EVER GET CONFUSED!:
A "visual" can be like the best looking or the member that fits the korean beauty standards best. A "maknae" is a term is korea that means "the youngest in a group". Maknae is used a lot in kpop, it just means that the person is the youngest in the situation. A "Madnae" is the opposite, madnaes are the oldest members in a group, but it isnt used as much as maknae. A "hyung" is a term of endearment used by younger males to address older men. "Noona" is how a male addresses an older female. "Unnie" is how younger females address older women, and "oppa" is how younger females address older men. They are all used in respect of the older person, while "dongsaeng" is how older people address younger people. Sometimes these honorifics are translated as "bro" or "brother" for hyung, "sis" or "sister" for noona and unnie, and "honey" for oppa as its used often in relationships. When someone says they want to speak casual or without honorifics, they don't want the younger person to use the words unnie, oppa, noona, or hyung with them as its seen as more respectful or uptight to some.
That was a lot but I hope it helps!
Thank you for all the great info! That was helpful.
Thanks for checking this out, but if you guys really want to learn about them I’d recommend checking out a longer more recent guide! If it’s too long, then you guys could split it into parts ☺️
Yes we have a better one we’ll start working on soon.
The guide is kinda old but thanks
I know you have like a 100 comments saying react to a new guide soooo I’m looking forward to the new guide reaction! Haha this one was entertaining tho
Yes, we’ll have a better one coming out soon
@@DANDJREACT A few added facts for you, maknae means youngest and it was not mentioned in the video ,that Lee Know is a former backup dancer for BTS.
@@marydavis5234 thanks 😊
"there's a lot of october babies here"
me: "just wait till you're done with hyunjin's part of the guide lol"
Darians birthday is also in October
@@DANDJREACT yeah i know since you mentioned it, i just thought it was funny since there's 3 september babies in stray kids and 4 2000 babies haha
@@ssickhyun 👍😊👍😊
@@ssickhyunand 3 of those September babies were born in the same week, 2 of them a day apart
Maknae means the youngest. In the positions VISUAL means someone who matches Korean beauty standards the most.
Thank you for this!🙏
visual does not mean they match korean beauty standards the most
@@intuash yes ma'am it does everyone knows that why comments something u dont know much about and confuse them and they new to kpop like if u didnt know then u didnt have to comments.
@@Shaniabendy777 if visual means 'a member who matches the korean beauty standards the most' then skz's visual would be lee know, but he is not. hyunjin does not meet some of the korean beauty standards and yet he is the visual because he is the most captivating
@@intuashit's the general meaning. you'll find that most visuals meet korean beauty standards, and if they miss one or two than usually the feature they're missing is replaced by something people still find attractive.
A “Visual” is usually considered the “pretty one” or “image” of the group, but it’s not used in stray kids anymore. A “Maknae” is the youngest in the group. If you want a more thorough guide video that talks about the history of the group and their discography as well as learn more about each individual member, this guide, while a little long, is the one of the best ones i’ve seen so far: th-cam.com/video/Wvl5MSDif0s/w-d-xo.html
Thanks for the info that was very helpful!
Also, technically, the practice of "furries" was documented in ancient greece. But the anthropomorphization of animals in comics really took off in the 60s or 70s in the UK and US and cosplay of such characters around the 80s with albedo anthropomorphics, a sci fi anthology by a writer out of seattle. The first furry con was in California in 89
Wow I didn’t know any of this. Thanks for the update
Visual means he is pretty to look at. Both him and Felix are visuals.
Got it 👍
Felix is actually not an official visual, Hyunjin and Lee Know are
@@Threegreentailsactually visual is not a term they use anymore for any of them because they all are, in some part, visuals. In the past, being called visual was uncomfortable for hyunjin because his talent for dancing or singing wasn’t being as appreciated as his looks and he was told in his trainee days that he could debut just being pretty so he didn’t need to work hard so the visual spot is shared in between all of stray kids
@@Threegreentailsnone of them are "official" visuals, they don't have official positions and attractiveness is subjective anyway
You asked about the “maknae”, that’s the youngest in the group - in STRAY KIDS that’s I.N; in comparison JK is the maknae of BTS. In both groups the maknaes are doted on and cossetted by the older members, largely because they were very young when they started out training together. And the "Visual" you asked about is usually hired by the agencies for the way they look. BTS (Jin) and STRAY KIDS (Hyunjin) were both visuals scouted off the street. They learned their astonishing skills as trainees.
The BTS guide you already reacted to by Taylor Nakamoto is outstanding because Taylor edits for a living; not only that, she published a draft version first and then spent months revising it based on thousands of comments she received in feedback. It’s about as balanced as you can get in the time she had to make it, and tries to simply state facts. Unfortunately, there is no equivalent documentary-style guide for STRAY KIDS, yet.
So you are left with fan made guides which, while entertaining can be confusing to newbies with no context. The one you’ll see most often recommended is by TeaNoSuga Reacts, which has the advantage of being updated regularly. She has a more meme-style approach and does include plenty of clips so you get an idea of the amazing range to STRAY KIDS music. If you are the type who likes MV clips to whet your appetite, you’ll enjoy hers; if not you’ll say there are too many spoilers. Personal taste really.
For what you're asking for, I recommend the STRAY KIDS 2022 GUIDE (Spoiler Free) by KelsTheKiller. You enjoyed Taylor’s BTS Guide and KelsTheKiller’s STRAY KIDS guide is more similar to that - it tries to convey facts and has no MV clips or tiktok edits, instead using clips from live performances, shows, interviews etc. You'll need to pause and read occasionally, but you had that for the BTS guide too, and the clips chosen are informative and not the same ones seen on all the other guides.
Whatever guide you choose, rest assured that STRAY KIDS are seriously talented, hardworking, funny, compassionate and kind humans and their music and performances reflect all of that. And don't worry about the length of the longer guides, STAYs will definitely watch them with you!
Thanks so much for this detailed response and excellent information. We found one guide a fan sent us that seems much more informative. We’ll work on it in a couple of weeks. We have other videos we’re currently working on right now. Thanks for your support 👍👍
They look so confused, I can’t stop laughing 😂
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I like your reaction. more Stray kids videos please
More coming soon
I was devastated the whole video you were lost I don’t think you choose the right one 🤣
OMG you are so totally right 😂
"maknae" means "the youngest" and "visual" means "the main pretty one or the one that does the modeling"
Thanks 😊
Hyunjin is not the visual anymore tho, they all are.
This is also a rly great guide that shows a lot of their individual skills, it’s around 56 min long and came out this year.
Link: th-cam.com/video/9u-OqNxgtUA/w-d-xo.html
This is great thanks for sharing 😊💜😊💜
This is great thanks for sharing 😊💜😊💜
Maknae means the youngest in korean
Thanks 😊
Ok, first thing is, Stray kids got rid of "official positions" before this guide was even made, they felt it was too confining and not really accurate, since they all strive to improve all sides of their talents. S
Second, kpop groups have some "positions" that don't make sense immediately to Westerners. One is the position of Leader, another is Visual, and there is also Maknae (which means "youngest"). The position of Leader is a little different than in Western groups, it is often held by the oldest member, but not always, for instance, in BTS RM is the Leader, but he's third oldest. This role has all sorts of responsibilities and the leader has a different type of relationship with the other members; the leader also is the main interface between the group and the company. Bang Chan is definitely a Leader, he basically takes care of everyone he comes across, he gets everyone pointed in the same direction, makes decisions, makes sure all the members are safe, etc. Many Stays like to call him "Best Leader".
The position of Visual is way more important in Korea than makes sense to most Westerners. It used to be really common for kpop groups to have at least one member whose main role was just to look good; and this was considered a sufficient contribution to the group. Many Visualsdid not sing or rap and were hidden in the back during the dances. These days that is not common, but it is still a position, usually held by the member who most closely matches the Korean beauty standards. Hyunjin for instance was "street cast", that is, a recruiting agent came up to him on the street, gave him the JYPE card and urged him to audition based only on his looks. He was not a good dancer, rapper or vocalist at that time, he really did get in based on looks and charisma and worked extremely hard to develop actual skills. The Visual position is one that no one in Skz actually wants (except Changbin, and that is mostly a joke). Hyunjin gets it by default because he models and is famous for being pretty. Felix is sometimes also considered a Visual, he was also streetcast during one of JYPE's Australian auditions and only had to do some free style dancing to get in. In contrast, when Chan auditioned, he had to sing, play guitar, dance, play piano, and they had him audition several times, came to his house, and so on.
The position of Maknae goes to the youngest member, and basically means their job is to be taken care of, coddled, and so on by all the other members. It is pretty important in Korea, I can't say I understand it very well, but it is actually a real position with real responsibilities and a real function in the group.
Thanks for this detailed explanation. There’s so much we need to learn it almost seems overwhelming. Nothing like the western music scene at all.
Thanks again for your response and support 👍
17:18 maknae means the youngest one
Thanks 😊
To whomever suggested this- Why? 💀
We have found better guides from some fans in the comments. We’ll do a better version soon.
Go with the teanosuga recommendation you got...Teanosuga I think is one of the better ones. The quick one's are usually filled with misinformation or honestly pointless stuff unless you already know the group then they can be just fun to watch...however 1 quick 1 that isn't bad is by spooky something someone else in the comments recommend with the proper name and link! But I suggest going the longer one
We will do the hour and a half one soon
I’d suggest react to more stray kids! “Easy”
We will
There is a very good "advanced" guide that showcases group music and creative dynamic. Its called "An Advanced Guide to Stray Kids (2022): Teamwork" by SavageKingZ that I highly recommend. It showcases a little more about the groups creation and roles that members have in the group. No aegyo or things like that. Its the most document like guide that I've found to date
We have the new 2023 guide we’re working on now. We’ll post it soon when it’s finished. Thanks 😊
If you want more of a documentary style to The beginnings of Stray Kids, I would actually check out this video on 3Racha, they are the producing team for Stray Kids. Bangchan was the one who put together stray kids and The first ones he brought on were the other two members of 3racha
th-cam.com/video/M5g17dFg2wA/w-d-xo.html
It also goes in depth on more of their songwriting process and how they worked on each album for Stray Kids
Ok great. Thanks for the info & links. You are awesome!💜
God I was hoping with the new year, reactors would finally let this guide go😭💀
It's funny but awfully lacking as a guide as other comments have already said
God I was hoping with the new year, reactors would finally let this guide go😭💀
It's funny but awfully lacking as a guide as other comments have already said
While the longer teanosuga one is recommended, if you wanted another short one then the one by spookyskz8 is also good but I have a hunch that viewers would enjoy the latest longer version reaction more anyways so upto you!
Thanks for the info.
What everybody else said. 😁
Lol
You gotta know what youre looking for, not just pick at random. theres tones of fun guides like this for BTS too. various guides for various purposes. Ask the fans for specific links, for each group in particular.
We already have a better one we’re working on. We’ll release it soon.
This guide was just for fun it doesn't cover 0.25% of their talents and awards ..it IS not fair BTS guide was longer
We found a better one we’ll react to it soon
Damn chill
@@wonuswife you chill
It's hard to know this as a non-stay, especially while watching it, but there is some misinformation in the video. For example, Bangchan was born in Korea and later moved to Australia. Han knows English because he lived in Malaysia (same as Bangchan) and the positions are really off.
I know this is an old video, but back then both Changbin and Han were the Main rappers, (even now, they just have different styles). Han is also a lead vocalist together with I.N. Leeknow was definitely a lead rapper more than sub rapper and Felix's positions should be changed to sub-vocalist lead/sub rapper and lead dancer. Hyunjin is also a lead dancer tgt w Felix. Seungmin is also a sub-rapper. (I get the feeling this editor didn't do their homework)
The positions in rank:
Main ( ) - for example if you're the main dancer, you lead the dance practices and help coordinate the moves, which leeknow is in charge of
Lead ( ) - Great abilities in dance and knows how to execute their bodies (the skz dance line have all different styles in dance)
( ) - This position doesn't usually exist, so I don't know why the editor uses it.
sub - ( ) - this position doesn't exist for dancers in kpop, but for vocalists, a sub-vocalist is a person who supports the lead and main vocalist in the song and for rappers, it's that they are better than non-rappers but not as good as a lead rapper.
Thanks for all the updated information.
We’re working on a better guide version now. We’ll post it soon.
Thanks for your support 👍👍
@@DANDJREACT omg no you're doing fine don't worry
@@acehjs thanks 👍👍
Okay! so the furries question; I.N was wearing those ears because at fansigns fans will give the idols little gifts to wear or hold on to ( unfortunately these gifts will be given back or disposed of at the end because their company doesn't want to encounter issues where cameras are put in gifts again ) I don't know much about furries but it's mostly an american thing from what my friends tell me, jokingly fans call skz furries though because they have mascots and all that
okay, seungmin is pronounced soongmin,
a maknae is the youngest member of a group and typically gets spoiled by the rest of the group
you'll hear this a lot too so Hyung is what males use to refer to older males like their brothers or friends
JYP entertainment is the label / company that stray kids is under
a visual is the most conventionally attractive or most interesting looking member.
ANYWAY, this guide is my personal fav, i get that this one is very unupdated.
th-cam.com/video/Wvl5MSDif0s/w-d-xo.html
the guide you watched is outdated and did seungmin so dirty with hardly any info smh
Thanks for all the info! We will be doing another guide soon to them.
Please react to another guide, this is not really a good one for newbies it's just fir fun. A really good guide is "This is Stray Kids" intro part 1&2. I personally think It's the best one out there.
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@@DANDJREACT thank you 😊
Your best bet is to ask the viewers the best video of stray kids guide and they will provide a link. This guide isn’t really a guide.
Yea I was annoyed actually I thought it was really going to teach me more of the history of the guys.
Still waiting for a better guide😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢
Ok just hold your breath 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
do some music video of Ikon ( But You ).
We’ll it to our video work list
Completely understand what you're saying. Unfortunately it is hard to find a really good, in depth guide that's not put together by some enamored teen that puts in stupid sh%t. If I was techy I'd try to make one that was helpful and yet also shows their personalities without making them look like idiots... 💁🏼♀️
Exactly
Pls when are we expecting another reaction for stray kids guide
We’ll have a better version coming out in a few weeks. We have a list of other video projects we’re working on right now.
I’d definitely recommend this guide for something more in depth, it’s also very recent th-cam.com/video/Wvl5MSDif0s/w-d-xo.html
Yes we have a better one we’ll start working on soon.
Are you still going to post another guide reaction?😮
Eventually yes.
This was my first guide as a baby Stay and honestly, I appreciate the person work but I though it was pretty terrible, it focus too much in inside jokes which people may not empathize with without knowing the kids previously and lacks actual info about them, where they come from and their aspirations. Is fan made so I guess we can't complain but not I guide I would suggest.
Thanks for trying tho
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New version guide 2023 version
We will check it out
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Bang Chan wasn't born in Australia, he was raised in Australia but was born in South Korea
Thanks for the info
@@DANDJREACT You're welcome! Also, a 'visual' is the most handsome of the group by Korean beauty standards.
@@truebloodsall1
Thanks 😊
18:44 I think that in Japan, Korea, china, etc. they put on animal costumes cuz they think it’s cute but koreaboos and otakus have integrated it into western pop culture and we see it as weird because the way that they obsess about being an animal is just disgusting, it’s almost like a kink. But they just think it’s a cute costume not a whole lifestyle
Yes, here in the US they have Furry conventions here in Vegas. It is a weird lifestyle where they truly believe they are the actual animal and live their lives as the animal.
Crazy people.
I guess one thing about general Eastern Asian culture is that Aegyo/Kawaii type of culture, that people, no matter what their gender or age is, are kind of used to be being "cute" at times. I don't think this really exists in America?
This doesn’t exist over here no.
@DANDJREACT Yeah i feel like westerners are often confused when they first come across the Aegyo culture haha. I can understand that though
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Totally confused 🫤
@@DANDJREACT Right 😂 It's ok, I guess it's kind of like appreciating a cute animal like a puppy, not really about being childlike. I don't think everyone likes being cute like that, and also I think idols are more accepted to do aegyo in general, though. Sorry I'm going on and on about this 😅
@@wolf_f3749
We’re learning and understanding more about their culture with each new video we watch. Also, the fans teach us so much as well.
Dreamcatcher guide please 🙏🙏
Working on it
Can y'all watch the other guide of 2022. Please🙏
We’re doing the new 2023 guide
The actual guides go alot longer, this one is just a bit of fun. Here is a good one: th-cam.com/video/dYS2Bf0a3WA/w-d-xo.html
Thanks we have the newest 2023 guide. We’ll start working on it soon. Once it’s finished we’ll post it. Thanks 😊💜😊💜
Please, check out a longer one. This one is old and not very good.
Yes we have a better one we’ll start working on soon.
Pls do a better guide
We will. We were greatly disappointed at the end. Do you have one in mind? With English subs?
We found a better one some fans sent us.
We’ll work on it soon.
this guide is more like what you looking for, but it's from 2019 so it's not very up to date...
it's called "This Is How Stray Kids Was Formed"
th-cam.com/video/PBuj1l-koVQ/w-d-xo.html&ab_channel=InternetsNathan
We’ll save this link and add it to our work list
Thanks 😊
Hi! I'm pretty sure the ones recommended are all good ones! (specially the one by teanosuga, 2023) I kind of hate this guide 🤣it's just not good at giving the basic info (and makes me cringe too much) but the others talk more about their music and the talents of each member! Also, I haven't found one that I could say has everything, some facts or examples are always missing/lacking, but some stuff you'll see on your own if you keep listening to their music and people commenting!
Ok thanks 😊
Have you thought about creating a guide that does include everything that is missing?
@@DANDJREACT yes 😭, so many times haha, but I've never made a video before so I'm not sure, maybe one day!!
@@naaramoya2592 👍👍
Thank you for the guide, but these short guides is more irritating as they dont really show the true "FULL" potential of the members, so I would say react to both the new guide I found a 10 min video for you to how they were formed. The actual guide is very detailed and have most of their info :)
Their new detailed guide th-cam.com/video/Wvl5MSDif0s/w-d-xo.html
How Stray Kids were formed th-cam.com/video/PBuj1l-koVQ/w-d-xo.html (only 10min)
the sort guides are pointless as they don't give info on the idols themselves
PS: visual is the main focus/looks of the group, You will see Huynjin at the front of the group the most, but that has now changed
PSS: Maknae is the name for the youngest member of the group
Thanks for the info and the links.
We have the new 2023 guide and we’ll start working on it soon. Once it’s finished we’ll post it. Thanks for your support 😊💜😊💜
@@DANDJREACT oh wonderful. they are a little long but so worth it 🫶🏻👊🏻
With all due respect, the editing of this guide is so cringey 💀
I know they were trying so hard not to cringe in this one😭 I felt uncomfortable watching it.
Trust me this was a tough one to sit through. Some fans have sent us better guides to react to. We’ll work on them soon.
@@DANDJREACT hahaha sure! No worries, take your time!
@@DANDJREACT sounds good!
If you want a better guide for them, something like this might be better for you, but it is an hour long
th-cam.com/video/9u-OqNxgtUA/w-d-xo.html
We’re doing the 2023 guide
Other people recommended better ones. There aren’t really any from when they were kids. So you won’t really get that. But there are guides that are way better than this.
Yes we have a better one we’ll start working on soon.
This isn't the best guide...as it's from a stay prospective, but you get the idea lol
Thanks we have the newest 2023 guide. We’ll start working on it soon. Once it’s finished we’ll post it. Thanks 😊💜😊💜
This is not a good guide
YES i agree with you
Yea I was really disappointed at the end
Greetings from Germany
Sorry gentlemen, but this guide doesn't even come close to who Stray Kids really are.
You certainly got the wrong guide.
Please try a 2023 or 2024 guide. Long but worth watching and very informative.
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Thanks for the tips!
not my favorite guide because it does not showcase their actual individual and group talents or origins
Agreed 👍
We have a better one we’re working on. It’ll be out soon.
@@DANDJREACT thanks!!
This guide was so cringey lmao
Seriously how do you think we felt 😂😂
We have a better one we’re working on. Should be out in a couple of weeks.
This is an outdated guide lol.