I am still discovering fresh reasons why gardening is good for all of us. It is good for health, environment, economy and state of mind. Some plants are good for conversation and meeting other people. Endure to persevere, the rewards are great.
Thanks a lot for the feed back. Most of us want to help make the world a better place, I'm glad I could make a difference. I'm heading back over to my coffee farm on the Island and so I should find some fresh inspiration for new videos. Enjoy
White Gold is a new cherry to me, I've never tried one. I see it is a cross with Stella which I have grown for years. If it is part Stella it must be ok. North Star is an old family favorite. My mother had one in Illinois while I was in school and beyond. I later planted one in Wisconsin and my son has one also. Awesome cherry, great choice. It is excellent for pies and jam and gets sweet enough to eat from the hand if allowed to tree ripen. If they grow you will be a happy man!
+Marvi Marv Thanks for the feed back. Finding the right crops for your yard takes a consideration of several factors. The most important is what you like to eat. Next to that is what grows well in your area and how much difficulty are you willing to put up with to produce the crop. Some fruits are very easy others have issues. Finally consider what you can do with the large yield from a home tree. You can sell fruit, give it away or preserve it. In the case of sweet cherries they are always eaten fresh, dried or turned into juice and wine. If you like Cherry pie or jam you would plant a sour cherry instead. Apples are a lot easier to deal with because some types will store for months under refrigeration. I can never decide on my favorite so my yard has 33 fruit trees with many of them grafted to multiple varieties. Picking one tree would be a very difficult task for me. Happy gardening, Bill
Cherries don't require elevation but they do need to chill down in the winter. Research the average hours of winter chilling for your area. Most cherries need 1000 to 700 hours of temperatures below 42 degrees f. A few like the Stella I grow and Lapins are sometimes rated at 700 to 400 hours. Dave Wilson has begun growing two cherries called Royal Lee and Mini Lee that only need 200 hours. These are really new and will expand the range of cherry growing.
Cherries are my favorite of all fruit. Thanks for the growing tips, do cherries need a high elevation to grow? I have that same owl, he really doesn't listen to me, when I tell him to guard my tomatoes, he turns his head away - he needs to be trained.
Most places where dragon fruit will grow cherries won't. Is your dragon fruit in a greenhouse? If you're on the mainland USA then cherry trees are easy to find in local nurseries or by mail. Try Stark Brothers by mail. If you live in Hawaii then it gets complicated. The trees won't fruit below 6000 feet. If you weather is tropical use the Capulin Cherry from South America. Seed is easy to grow for these. I believe there is a source here in Fremont when the season comes.
Nice to see you on my you tube site Rick. The channel has over 100 videos to pick from. Most of them have a different recording on each. Catch you later.
Historically Cherries like Stella and Lapins are the only two that are ever rated at 400 to 700 hours. I use Stella and we get about 425 hours of chilling here in Fremont. The tree still shows signs of lacking winter chill from time to time. I have heard that people plant these two trees in LA but that really seems like a stretch to me. Dave Wilson is propagating two new Zaiger Genetics Low Chill Cherries, Royal Lee and Mini Lee. They rate at 200 hours and should work for you.
There is something about cherries that make me feel like a kid again. I have been known to just sit on a ladder and eat from the tree until my fingers are purple.
The Hilo farmers market is one of the best markets in Hawaii. Wednesday is a good day for the local shoppers and Saturday is aimed at the tourists. Both days are good. Check out the guy facing the bay front. He always has some exotic fruit that is difficult to find otherwise. The Maku'u Market is open on Sunday. It's on the main road between Keau'u and Pahoa. From my point of view this is the best market in Hawaii. Be prepared to eat lunch there. Good grub and go early markets sell out.
Bill, I see that this is from 2013 and you are on the mainland in the video. I am here with you on the Big Island and I have cold refrigerator germinated a few cherries and I am looking for info on how best grow them here on Island. I am in HPP at 200 feet, about 3 miles from the ocean. Any tips?
No joke, move! Cherries are the highest chill requirement of any common fruit tree. Where I used to raise them in the CA Bay are they were already way out of range. Most require 700 to 1200 hours of chilling weather below 42 f. In Fremont, CA we only got about 400 hours. This created all sort of problems in CA. Puna gets zero hours of chilling over most of the district. Even Volcano isn't cold enough for cherries. My guess is somewhere over 6000 feet you might find a place where cherry will grow here. The ones in the old temperate fruit experimental orchard here at 6000 feet have long since crapped out. There are a few apples, Asian pears and Ume that can produce here. The Fuyu persimmon is also possible.
I grew up in the High Desert of So Cal, a place called Leona Valley. Billed themselves as the cherry capitol of the world- Hundreds of acres of u-pick cherries. It was my first job-whitewashing the trucks to keep the bugs off them. We were at just 2900 feet there, but it did get well digger cold in the winter- 0 most years. We were just 50 miles from the Tehachapi Mountains where they grew fantastic apples. Maybe that is why they did so well. The Fuyu may be my go to then- JoAnn loves them.
@@TheRealSuperK The Fuyu persimmon is difficult to find here. Once a year, Paradise Plants in Hilo will bring in a load from Dave Wilson in CA. Get on the waiting list if you want one.
I need your help please. My cherry tree is completely ruined by maggot infestation. Every cherry on it gets spoilt every year. I pruned the cherry tree heavily but even the new shoots with new cherries gets ruined. I've lost hope. All the cherry trees in my neighborhood have the same maggot problem. What's that spray you use and how do you apply it? Please can you post a video and advise where to purchase that pesticide.
You have the Cherry Piecer. Drosophila suzukii. There are traps with lures available. You can make your own traps. You can use Spinosad as an organic control or Imidecloprid as a regular control. th-cam.com/video/WODfuWkxjLs/w-d-xo.html&ab_channel=GreenGardenGuy1 ipm.ucanr.edu/PMG/r105400311.html
It's not likely. Most ants are too small for either of those creatures to use as food. I doubt a pig can even see them well. I use barriers around plants for the ants and Spinosad bacteria to control the colonies. If they build up to large numbers and become a problem I push a stick in the ground for them to climb, flood the area with water so they are forced to climb the stick or drown. Then I spray the stick with Spinosad and kill most of the colony with one shot.
Finding earwigs up in a tree is a bit unusual. The only time I have seen this is when fruit splits and draws them. Are you getting a lot of cracked cherries? In any case if you band the tree with tangle foot they won't be able to climb the trunk. Wash the tree with a jet of water before picking and let it drip dry. This will remove a lot of the bugs. Otherwise use a bacterial bait for earwigs on the ground that contains Spinosad. Or...wear a rain coat with a motorcycle helmet!
it memo Thanks for the feed back. Good thing I captured the cherry on fruiting in these videos back in 2013. This past winter has been the warmest on record for the west coast. Trees that require a good cold winter to fruit are fruitless this summer. The cherry is no exception. They need 700 to 1000 hours of constant temperatures below 42. We had less than 200 so the cherry is near fruitless. I'm usually full of solutions but when it comes to extreme climate changes all I can think of is move my tree to Washington state where it still gets cold enough to grow cherries. I'm usually stuffing my face with fresh cherries right now but I am eating citrus instead.
The yard has three bird baths kept clean and full. Who ever told you watering birds will prevent them from eating fruit doesn't raise cherries. Feeding and watering birds only draws more of them to the local environment making them even worse pests. I have to stop tending to wild birds during spring planting to keep them from eating every seedling in the garden. Birds eat cherries for the same reason people do. They are nutritious and delicious.
I don't have much concern about the tick while living in CA or HI but we used to get plenty of them while living in WI. There they carry lymes disease. We used to have the daily grooming ritual where ever body stripped to the under shorts and had someone else pick them over like a bunch of pink apes. So if I was using Guinea fowl I would strip, lay on the floor and let them eat dinner? You can't take the hens out to the trout stream. That was where I collected the most ticks.
During this video, you mention an owl that you use to scare away birds. Some questions for you, if you don't mind, please. How many years have you been using the owl? Are you still an advocate for its use? If so, would you mind confirming whether it is battery or solar powered? Does yours make sounds? Also, do you perhaps know the brand of it and/or where you purchased it? There seem to be many garden owls for sale on the internet, and most of them get really poor reviews. Thanks in advance. Look forward to hearing from you.
First off, there is nothing other than wrapping a tree in fish net that will keep birds off of cherries completely. Anything, including owls only work to an extent and only on some types of birds. The only owl I have ever used that worked to an extent was the one with the rotating head. We used to call it an exorcist owl in the nursery business. It is called (Gardeneer By Dalen Natural Enemy Scarecrow Rotating Head Owl) and you can find it on Amazon. The rules for using it are to one, only put it up when you need it and take it down later. Birds get used to things that are always around. Two, make sure it is mounted straight up and down or the head will not move in the breeze right. Three, put it on a long pole so it is about 2 or three feet above the top of the cherry tree. When combined with bird scare tape it works pretty well on everything but crows.
California ready didn't have any serious diseases for cherry. We had some cankers and a few issues but nothing too bad. The Cherry Piercer Fly was the worst. I live in Hawaii now and you could grow a cherry here if your life depended on it. Got to be happy with pineapples.
Cherry trees are hybrids and will not grow true from a seed. The trees are grafted to maintain variety. The seeds require scarification and cold stratification in order to germinate. Nicking the seed coat them planting and allowing seed to over winter out doors will aid germination.
I live in Missouri up on the Iowa state line I just got 2 Royal Ann cherry trees from Wal-Mart here so is there any other cherry tree I need or will this 2 be enough ?
Two Royal Ann trees are only a single tree because they are the same plant. Even if you plant 100 Royal Ann you still only have a single tree from a genetic point of view. It isn't likely that you will get a good crop from a sweet cherry tree of any type in your area but since your getting started you will find out soon enough how well the idea works out. Since you require a second tree of a different genetic type to pollinate Royal Ann you will have to go back shopping again to see what your local suppliers find. As a California Cherry grower I never planted trees that required cross pollination. The self fertile cherries were always my go to tree. Top of the list was Stella but Lapins would also work. These two will pollinate themselves with out a second variety present. According to Dave Wilson Nursery the pollinator tree for Royal Ann is Van or Black Tartarian but not Bing. The type of cherry tree that is sure to grow in your climate would be the Pie Cherry, North Star, Montmorency or Meteor. If things don't work out with the Royals I would consider growing pie cherries. I grew up on these in the Midwest and find them more useful than sweet cherry and easier to grow.
I planted two cherry trees last winter. They are injerted onto a rootstock. The problem is that the trees won't grow, it's nearing fall and they didn't much growing, put out leaves and just a couple of short new branches. Is that normal?
No, the growth isn't normal. New cherry trees will often double in size the first season. At a distance it is difficult to tell you why this happened. Since it is two trees doing the same thing they have a problem in common. My first thought would be drought. If the trees didn't receive proper moisture they would stunt. The second thought would be if they are plants purchased in containers they may have been old and pot bound causing trouble rooting into the site. The third thought would be some sort of soil interface problem like too much compost in the planting hole or possibly too much manure or fertilizer causing burned roots. It would be less common but if you have a clay soil and the trees were over irrigated they may have rotted.
GreenGardenGuy1 That's bad news. Drought couldn't be, we are having one of the most humid years in my life in the south athlantic. I'm watering anyways. The plants at the moment I get them were on a small bunch of clay and the container was some sort of palmleaf thing. One of the plants was put on plain soil enriched with my own compost, the other was put on a big container with old compost. I will cross my fingers for the next season :(
nemodot Yeah, I'd blame a crummy soil mix and maybe poor root development because of it. Generally using homemade compost for tree potting soil isn't a good idea. If you make your compost by composting saw mill chips that are from low Turpin trees then maybe you have something with the right structure and durability. If it is made from kitchen scraps, yard waste and manure then spread it in the garden and buy high grade commercial mixes.
I get earwigs really bad in my sour cherry tree. Any tips for them? I HATE picking cherries and getting earwigs falling on me! It would be nice to be able to pick cherries without doing the screaming/jumping dance lol.
Hi Bill, I live in Alameda County, CA not too far from Fremont. Is it possible to grow Bing cherry here, or are the chilling hours not enough? According to this chill calculator (fruitsandnuts.ucdavis.edu/Weather_Services/chilling_accumulation_models/Chill_Calculators/?type=chill), this area gets about 1600 hours and is a 65 chilling portion using the Dynamic Model. It says Bing needs 1000-1300 chilling hours and a 65 chilling portion (fruitsandnuts.ucdavis.edu/Weather_Services/prune_chilling_prediction_about/), so wouldn't Alameda County be just right for Bing? I am confused because you and most other information I have read say it isn't cold enough for Bing here.
Bing is a poor choice for most of Alameda county. IF you live towards Livermore then it will work to an extent but if you are on the Bay side of the hills it is generally a waste of space. There is no where around the Bay where sweet cherries are well adapted. It just doesn't get cold enough and the winters seem to be getting milder with the Pacific heating up. From my point of very Bing is an inferior cherry compared to several that fruit with less chilling. My first choice in sweet cherries is Stella because it is self fertile and lower chill than Bing. Next to that I would suggest Lapins, it is also self fertile and lower chill. Stella is a much higher quality cherry than Bing. Everyone knows Bing because growers can ship the hard fruit easier. It isn't the #1 cherry in the USA because it is the best to eat. Bing requires a second tree of a different variety in order to set fruit. Black Tartarian or Van are often used as the pollinator trees. Stella and Lapins do not require a second tree. Since they are self fertile even after a warm winter they will still produce enough pollen to set a fair crop. In the case of Bing a warm winter will often cause it to miss the pollinator trees bloom. Stick with self fertile cherries and let Bing go in the Bay, it isn't the best fruit anyway.
nice! The place we are renting has a few fruit trees on it. I am hoping we get some fresh fruits, otherwise I hear there are some good farmer's markets around.
Impressive . I had few Cherry's this summer..I just planted Two different Types in Fairly large Plastics Container..One is Kordia and the other Sunburst..I have them in my small Porch..The sunshine is adequate.. With Regards from Hamburg,Germany..
Good luck, there is nothing like fresh cherries from the tree. I will be missing mine. We sold the house in California with the cherries back in May. Here at the new house in Hawaii we can grow pineapples, coffee and bananas but cherries are out of the question. It never gets cold enough here for them to fruit.
+GreenGardenGuy1 Thank You..But in few year's time I will be moving to Long Island in N.Y. and continue growing it at my wife's Home..Once we also had huge mansion back in the day's at our Ancestral home and my late father was in to horticulture and many other hobbies..But that is long gone with Time..I got many relatives in San Fransisco Bay area and also in Mount Shasta area..So I am aware of your emotion's after moving out of there and leaving them around..That beautiful garden. Thanks for the Reply and wishing you to enjoy existence in Hawai.. Take Care and Good Health..
I have moved a lot and every time i move I leave behind excellent gardens. I consider it a life mission to leave the planet in better shape than I found it. I never look back, the garden left behind in California was only the stepping stone to the new on in Hawaii. The only time the past ever bothers me is when i find new owners have allowed the good work to fall apart. Gardens generally do not survive long without their gardeners. The reality is I have never returned to visit a garden once I moved away, mostly because I am afraid of what I might find.
+GreenGardenGuy1 I fully agree with you what you meant and this is very true. Sometimes..I also feel the same looking back at my past. I have also moved a few time's in my 48 Year's and So did my wife as well. Every time the botanical loss is immense... Now Day's very few admire mother nature..These are the Insensitive plastic people..Who would not let their mobile phone's sit idle for a little while..They have no feeling's at all towards Nature and Natural surrounding's... I was born in 1969 and my wife in 1959 and both of us loves to grow Tree's, Fruit's, Flower's, Tend small animal's, Bird's and also fish..These are our aesthetic and Habit...I live in small apartment and I am the only Madman who had Two Cherry Tree's planted on either side of the porch..Even my Neighbor's..Began pulling my legs..But when I leave Germany..I will leave my Tree's behind..I have also planted similar Tree's in Denmark and few in our countryside in Hamburg where I am residing presently for the past 18 year's.. But after I leave Germany all will be lost in Haze..Same happened in India..Where I was born and raised..But some of my Tree's have survived out there..I was able to procure the News.. Life goes on only faint memories remains of the past..Once we had and now we don't, But begin from the scratch.. The way your video presentation is depicts the innermost feeling's towards Nature..I can understand the way you feel now after leaving your loved creation's..I have once felt the same..But we are the types that cannot live without growing Plant's around us and I wish you lot's of success in your new location in Hawai with Tropical Plant's.. But as you are already much aware..It takes minimum period of 10 year's for grafted fruiting Tree to mature and then the pollination part is also crucial..But in the Tropical area you can achieve success with Fruiting trees such as Mangoes,Papaya's, Rambutans,Coconuts,Bananas,Pineapple's and Coffees as you have already mentioned before..Now you are on the Sunny Side. While we face the fierce north sea wind's in Hamburg Winter...Hawai is still better to reside than Florida..I think...Because Florida is too much commercialized and Expensive in posh locations. All the best to you and your well wisher's.. I must end my blabbering for now..
I have to agree with you at least in part. The world today is losing much of it's connection to the earth. We are of it and can not survive without it. If we take a count of how many things we use come from plants it becomes clear that they are the most important aspect of our lives. We would not be here without them. Because of this reality it is clear most people are divorced from the actual reality of their existence and live in a technological La-la land. Digital Disney World. The attachment to the smart phone is frightening and indicates some deep vacancy in our psyche. It is the first step in humans fusing their organic matrix with technological augmentation. On the other hand, there are a few of us out here in places that see things differently. I for one assessed the smart phone and decided it help no value in my life. If I happen to need a phone, they are everywhere, I can borrow one. The Big Island of Hawaii is rather different than the Mainland USA. The spirit of Aloha is real here. Most people just live, they have little to prove so they focus more on basic life. Art, Dance and music are still central parts of life here, everyone is involved, not just the specialists. The interest in growing plants here is like nothing I have ever seen. When it comes to horticulturalists, I am humbled here and just one guy in a sea of green thumbs.
the best thing to do for the birds just pecking at the cherries is put a bird bath in as they are just trying to get some water from the fruits. works wonders in my garden when I started to do that. throw them an easy source for water and they wont try for the cherries being a little harder for them to do. plus the more birds you have the less of a nuisance the flies will be as they will eat them. I found that planting out fennel brings in red bodied wasps that feed on flying insects. I haven't had much trouble with the wasps, I usually sit there and watch the wasps feed on my fennel and on a couple of occasions saw them take out a couple knats too.
Sorry, your birds are nothing like the ones I had in Fremont. I had two bird baths and several bird feeders in the yard. The birds would get a drink, eat some seeds and then go to my cherry tree and gorge on fruit for dessert. The only time the bird problems let up a bit was when I took down the feeders and the baths in an effort to drive the birds out of the yard to find food. The more food and water I put out for the birds the higher the number of birds in the yard grew and the more the birds destroyed crops intended for my consumption. I have always fed and watered birds but doing so always increased the problems i had with them. They have no manners and take what they like. Since moving to Hawaii I have stopped feeding and watering birds. Many of the issues I have with them have disappeared. I don't know about other states but in California feeding the birds is actually a violation of wild life laws. People including my self did it anyway but it is technically illegal. As far as wasps and Drosophila suzukii is concerned it is a recently introduced exotic pest that as of yet doesn't seem to have any natural enemies in California. The AG department may eventually decide to introduce something that feeds on them but that in it's self can have unintended consequences. Thank you for offering suggestions but I am covered on all bases you have touched and have found no relief, watering birds only made things worse.
Here is a video showing the bird life in my yard and believe me, the water only drew mobs of birds to the cherries. It made things much worse, not better. th-cam.com/video/pQORi_g3XPQ/w-d-xo.html
You make a good point. When I lived in Wisconsin, next to a State forest, in a county with no stoplights the birds were less trouble than in Fremont. Here in Hawaii there is a lot of natural food and lots of open space, the birds are less troublesome. Although the Cardinals eat all my chili peppers! In the urban setting there is little food for wild life. By putting out food and water for the birds they congregated in large groups with in my landscape. They realized after a while that almost everything in my yard was edible and they proceeded to eat it. Before I moved I could not even plant from seed in the garden without putting row cover down or the birds would eat every sprout that came from the earth. Even the weeds were in danger of their beaks. Never the less, I have fed and watched birds since I was a child and I wasn't about to give up. We used to stop feeding two weeks before installing the spring or fall gardens though. This would drive most of them away and I could get some crops started. I have a love hate relationship with the little birdies.
Hi Bill, is this Bing cherry? I'm in Castro Valley. Zone 10a, similar to Fremont? I have put in a rainier and a bing last year. The bing didn't survive, so I just replaced with another one last month. You mentioned low chill hours we got here. What is your advice on bing and rainier? Are they worth to try? Or I'm making a mistake? Thanks a lot! Learning a lot from your videos!
No, the tree is a compact Stella. Bing requires cross pollination to produce. Stella is self fertile. It is also low chill. Most high chill cherries that require a second tree for pollination will miss each other during the flowering after a mild winter. I recommend sticking to self fertile sweet cherries in the Bay Area. Stella and Lapins are two good choice.
Got it. Thanks a lot! Sounded like there is a slim chance for Bing and Rainier. I just received Royal Lee and Minnie Royal Cherries yesterday. If I see Stella or Lapins, I would get one, but on the flip side my yard is filling up pretty quickly.
You can always begin to graft self fertile cherries into the trees you have already planted. In the long run you will do better in the Bay Area with these anyway. Bing is always a long shot. The fruit on Bing isn't as good as Stella anyway. The CRFG scion exchange is over for the year but most nurseries that sell bare root trees will allow the collection of scion wood from the store stock. When I ran Navlet's Nursery we gave customers free wood in winter.
Hi, Bill. And yes!! Appreciate your efforts in sharing this information. Do you have a stand somewhere we can buy your cherries from?? I'm gonna be traveling up that way soon & it would be a treat to shake your hand & get a bag or 10 of your little bites of heaven. And yes!! Life is a bowl of cherries (:
G C Thanks for the feed back. The crop is done for the year. It usually peaks at 7/4. This year between no rain fall and the warmest winter on record the cherries had only a ghost of their past crops. Cherries need 700 to 1000 hours of temperature below 42 degrees. Last winter we barely got 100. If the Pacific keeps getting warmer cherries in The San Francisco Bay area may be a thing of the past. At least the oranges are still producing.
I used to push the climate chill envelope trying to grow cherries in the SF Bay area. We got around 400 hours of chill and cherries take about 700 on the low end and most over 1000 hours of temperatures below 42 in order to flower properly. In Oxnard I would consider a low chill peach instead.
You must be drinking that vodka? Do I understand you right that the you were trying to use an owl to keep the bears away? Or were you using an owl for birds and the bears trashed it? Anyway, I once had bear problems in Wisconsin. The only thing that will keep bears out of a tree is an electric fencer or a steel fence so strong, sharp and tall that they can't cross it. Use electric wire or razor wire but even the razor is questionable.
Hi Green, found your video very informative. It's January here in the Northeast. Our weather was warm for a few days (40's & low 50's) but temps have since dropped again. I noticed my cherry had sap at the base of the trunk. I'm blaming this on the temps and the fact that it may have stressed the tree. Have you experienced this with your tree?
It depends on what you mean by sap. IF it is a hardened gob then this is gummosis and could be caused by bacteria infections, water molds or boring insects. If what you have is wet spots on the tree trunk from fresh leaking sap run then you have probably got a case of sun scald. If the bark freezes, then thaws then freezes hard again it can rupture the cells and kill the south side of the cambium. Usually painting the trunk white or wrapping it will prevent this type of injury.
I suggest doing so research on the sun scald of fruit trees. In your case the damage has already been done. Taking corrective action will reduce future damage but will no heal the damage that has previously occurred. This condition is caused by the South West side of the tree trunk warming to above freezing during winter and allowing it to wake up and flow sap. When the temperatures drop below freezing again the sap freezes and ruptures the cell walls causing bleeding. It is a wound in the trunk caused by warm winter weather. White paint can reflect sunlight as well as a wrap of burlap that will insulate the trunk, keeping it below freezing. The previous damage can take years to heal. It will usually show as a large peeling area of bark on the trunk during the summer. Eventually the dead bark drops away and bark from both sides will compartmentalize the wound. How long depends on how large the sun scald was.
GreenGardenGuy1 thanks much you've been most helpful. After receiving your first response I've been researching the matter and notice that this is a common problem in the Northeast with fruit trees due to the climate change. there's no way to control the weather but I'll try a few methods and see how things go.
I also had problems with this when I lived in the Midwest. Climate change or not. If you try to grow most fruit in the northern tier and do not protect from sun scald it will plague you. It was 30 years ago my apples cherries and pears would scald in Wisconsin when the weather went warm in Feb. I suspect the erratic weather of today makes the problem even worse.
Since you haven't specified what you mean by early I can only guess as to how many days these flowers take to brown out. I have never counted the days that an individual flowers stays fresh on a cherry tree but I know it isn't long at all. If all the flowers on a tree turn brown in a day then I would guess you got hit by a frost.
I've never been to the Philippines so an accurate answer is impossible for me. I Hawaii you would have to live above 1800 meters before you could even dream of growing cherries. Apples, Pears, plums and peaches all take less winter chilling than cherries. I believe where you live is even warmer than Hawaii so no would be a reasonable answer. They need between 700 & 1200 hours of constant temperature below 42 degrees f. every winter in order to fruit.
That sounds pretty warm but average temperatures are just a lot of irregular readings reduced to a figure. What matters is how low the temperature drops in the cool season and for how long.
Stella Cherry can only be propagated by grafting. The seeds will not reproduce the tree. There are many sources online where you can buy the tree as a bare root plant.
@@spidermanscookingshow9362 I'm not in the business of shipping or selling cherry trees so you will have to do your own search. I will suspect that most major fruit tree growers can ship internationally provided there are no prohibitions in your country. The biggest issue for you will be the international shipping charges. They will be substantial. I would try these two sources and see what they can do. www.starkbros.com/ onegreenworld.com/
I believe I mentioned I was growing Compact Stella. Stella is usually rated around 700 hours of chilling. This makes it one of the lowest chill sweet cherries around. Most are 1000 hours or more. Fremont only got about 420 hours of chilling so my tree was always under chilled and had some odd flowering characteristics because of the mild weather. Never the less, it produced. Bill
I don't think I made the suggestion that you couldn't come up with a home remedy for ants. I just wasn't focusing on this aspect of control since most of the commercial products work very well & are relatively inexpensive. I suppose a person could always make their own sticky goop from pine pitch to block ants. You could grow your own tobacco or pyrethrum daisy to make bug spray. You might even adopt an ant eater from a zoo gone bankrupt!
+Abu Bakr al-Baghdadi You are welcome. Sad news, with the warming of the Pacific Ocean the winters have become so mild here that for two years since this video the cherry has failed to flower and fruit. They need cold winters to get proper rest. My bananas and citrus love the mild weather but the cherry has been unhappy with it.
+GreenGardenGuy1 Then I suggest that you put the cherry trees out to stud, That is prune them for the cuttings and root the cuttings. The weather is too bad for good fruit, but is good weather to root cuttings. Kindest regards
+Abu Bakr al-Baghdadi I suppose that would work. My usual take on weather and plants is just be patient and wait for the weather to change. In the case of this tree it will have a new owner by June because I am selling this house and garden. Thanks, Bill
The hawk used to come on his own to eat sparrows. To the best of my knowledge no one makes a hawk with a rotating heat. If the head doesn't move the birds just perch on it.
Yes, I had several sets of chimes in the orchard. They put the birds in a good mood and make them hungry. The only thing I ever found that works is a .177 pellet gun. Since moving to Hawaii I can no longer grow cherries but here the birds eat my blueberries and Grumichama. I am using bird nets on wood frames. They work to a point but the birds still find gaps and then get trapped on the inside.
You have polite birds. In CA the birds take what they want and little will prevent them other than barriers, bullets or booming loud enough to hurt the ears. There is little natural food left so they prey on people. In northern Wisconsin bird problems were minimal because wild food was abundant. In Hawaii the native birds stick to the native plants and fit perfectly into their environment. The imported birds have no place so they prey on crops. Bird babies learn habits from the parents so same birds in different areas have different habits. The birds in Hawaii never saw a sunflower and avoided them at first. California birds gave me two years of peace with blueberries until they discover they were edible. True story, I left the rotating head owl up for too long in my cherry tree and the crows realized they could do a merry go round by riding the head in the breeze. They would poop on it just to show me how dumb they thought it was.
I have planted and grown plums but they aren't my favorite fruit. My partner likes them though. These days we live in Hawaii though and the only plum that will dare grow here is the Mume.
They are welcome to eat somewhere else and something else. I plant lots of stuff for wild life and feed the birds with seed and water. When I plant things for my uses the birds are not welcome. I'm not a "live and let them eat my stuff" kind of guy. Too much work, time and economic value in a lot of my efforts to allow them to become forage for flocks of starlings.
I am sure if the chickens happen to scratch into an ant hill they will probably manage to pick up a bit of food before they have to run for their lives. If you ever sat on an ant hill or had them crawl up a tree under your shirt I am sure you know what I mean. The little guys have short tempers and sharp jaws. I can't argue the fact that chickens will eat almost anything but I had up to 250 chickens past and I still had ants. Chickens are much better at controlling pray like grasshoppers.
Party tips from Canada: Let your Cherries rot to semi- soft and stuff into a bottle of Vodka. Drink excess immediately. Do not drink bottle for two years. Place in basement or bury in dirt. Invite some Polish or Russians over. See who will be the life of the party. Tell me, how do I keep the bears away from the tree? My fake owl is not working. This was really bad advise for me. They knocked over my Apple trees because of you. No more rotating owls. ;)
+Binkie Pinkie Plants growing without mulch are unnatural and in conflict with the principles demonstrated by nature. Clean ground under crops is an ancient understanding that can be traced back to the Greeks noticing that weeds grew better in landslide areas. They decided that stirring the soil was the key to good crop growth. The observation was only partially correct yet the practice persists to the present day. Changes in agriculture move very slowly.
lol id love an ant eater.. but i doubt i could feed it after the fact. need to find something else that likes eating animals.. kind alike when i found out guinea fowls would bail me out of a tick problem
and then suudenly you find out that the tree wil be 10 meter high en 10 meter wide en never again there wil be sunshine in your garden en that it takes years to have fruit.....
Sounds like you picked the wrong tree. I used a compact Stellar on dwarf root stock that I could manage at about 8' by 10'. I grew kumquats north of it and Satsuma mandarins south of the tree with no problem. It was on the east side of my vegetable garden and the vegetables did just fine. Perhaps you grew one of the less compact forms on standard root stock and didn't prune much. That would be a big tree.
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I am still discovering fresh reasons why gardening is good for all of us. It is good for health, environment, economy and state of mind. Some plants are good for conversation and meeting other people. Endure to persevere, the rewards are great.
Thanks a lot for the feed back. Most of us want to help make the world a better place, I'm glad I could make a difference.
I'm heading back over to my coffee farm on the Island and so I should find some fresh inspiration for new videos.
Enjoy
White Gold is a new cherry to me, I've never tried one. I see it is a cross with Stella which I have grown for years. If it is part Stella it must be ok. North Star is an old family favorite. My mother had one in Illinois while I was in school and beyond. I later planted one in Wisconsin and my son has one also. Awesome cherry, great choice. It is excellent for pies and jam and gets sweet enough to eat from the hand if allowed to tree ripen. If they grow you will be a happy man!
Cool video. Lots of good details. Hope to find the right fruit tree to grow in my backyard here in NC someday. Thanks for posting.
+Marvi Marv Thanks for the feed back. Finding the right crops for your yard takes a consideration of several factors. The most important is what you like to eat. Next to that is what grows well in your area and how much difficulty are you willing to put up with to produce the crop. Some fruits are very easy others have issues. Finally consider what you can do with the large yield from a home tree. You can sell fruit, give it away or preserve it. In the case of sweet cherries they are always eaten fresh, dried or turned into juice and wine. If you like Cherry pie or jam you would plant a sour cherry instead. Apples are a lot easier to deal with because some types will store for months under refrigeration. I can never decide on my favorite so my yard has 33 fruit trees with many of them grafted to multiple varieties. Picking one tree would be a very difficult task for me. Happy gardening, Bill
Moviing in Mid July. Sure I would love to see all of wonderful fruiting plants you got going.
Cherries don't require elevation but they do need to chill down in the winter. Research the average hours of winter chilling for your area. Most cherries need 1000 to 700 hours of temperatures below 42 degrees f. A few like the Stella I grow and Lapins are sometimes rated at 700 to 400 hours. Dave Wilson has begun growing two cherries called Royal Lee and Mini Lee that only need 200 hours. These are really new and will expand the range of cherry growing.
Cherries are my favorite of all fruit. Thanks for the growing tips, do cherries need a high elevation to grow? I have that same owl, he really doesn't listen to me, when I tell him to guard my tomatoes, he turns his head away - he needs to be trained.
Will do, I plan to be around for a while. Thanks.
Thanks Bill! We sure will take your advice. We are staying in leilani....
When will you be there? Come by for a visit if you are near Mountain View, HI
Most places where dragon fruit will grow cherries won't. Is your dragon fruit in a greenhouse? If you're on the mainland USA then cherry trees are easy to find in local nurseries or by mail. Try Stark Brothers by mail. If you live in Hawaii then it gets complicated. The trees won't fruit below 6000 feet. If you weather is tropical use the Capulin Cherry from South America. Seed is easy to grow for these. I believe there is a source here in Fremont when the season comes.
Nice to see you on my you tube site Rick. The channel has over 100 videos to pick from. Most of them have a different recording on each. Catch you later.
Historically Cherries like Stella and Lapins are the only two that are ever rated at 400 to 700 hours. I use Stella and we get about 425 hours of chilling here in Fremont. The tree still shows signs of lacking winter chill from time to time. I have heard that people plant these two trees in LA but that really seems like a stretch to me. Dave Wilson is propagating two new Zaiger Genetics Low Chill Cherries, Royal Lee and Mini Lee. They rate at 200 hours and should work for you.
There is something about cherries that make me feel like a kid again. I have been known to just sit on a ladder and eat from the tree until my fingers are purple.
Nice music too Bill.
The Hilo farmers market is one of the best markets in Hawaii. Wednesday is a good day for the local shoppers and Saturday is aimed at the tourists. Both days are good. Check out the guy facing the bay front. He always has some exotic fruit that is difficult to find otherwise. The Maku'u Market is open on Sunday. It's on the main road between Keau'u and Pahoa. From my point of view this is the best market in Hawaii. Be prepared to eat lunch there. Good grub and go early markets sell out.
Bill, I see that this is from 2013 and you are on the mainland in the video. I am here with you on the Big Island and I have cold refrigerator germinated a few cherries and I am looking for info on how best grow them here on Island. I am in HPP at 200 feet, about 3 miles from the ocean. Any tips?
No joke, move! Cherries are the highest chill requirement of any common fruit tree. Where I used to raise them in the CA Bay are they were already way out of range. Most require 700 to 1200 hours of chilling weather below 42 f. In Fremont, CA we only got about 400 hours. This created all sort of problems in CA. Puna gets zero hours of chilling over most of the district. Even Volcano isn't cold enough for cherries. My guess is somewhere over 6000 feet you might find a place where cherry will grow here. The ones in the old temperate fruit experimental orchard here at 6000 feet have long since crapped out. There are a few apples, Asian pears and Ume that can produce here. The Fuyu persimmon is also possible.
I grew up in the High Desert of So Cal, a place called Leona Valley. Billed themselves as the cherry capitol of the world- Hundreds of acres of u-pick cherries. It was my first job-whitewashing the trucks to keep the bugs off them. We were at just 2900 feet there, but it did get well digger cold in the winter- 0 most years. We were just 50 miles from the Tehachapi Mountains where they grew fantastic apples. Maybe that is why they did so well. The Fuyu may be my go to then- JoAnn loves them.
@@TheRealSuperK The Fuyu persimmon is difficult to find here. Once a year, Paradise Plants in Hilo will bring in a load from Dave Wilson in CA. Get on the waiting list if you want one.
@@GreenGardenGuy1 Paradise Plants, the furniture place? LOL I do know they have some plants. I'll cal them tomorrow. Thanks!
@@TheRealSuperK The furniture place also has a first class plant nursery.
Oh I totally agree. Giving a little bit to nurture nature is good though.
I need your help please. My cherry tree is completely ruined by maggot infestation. Every cherry on it gets spoilt every year. I pruned the cherry tree heavily but even the new shoots with new cherries gets ruined. I've lost hope. All the cherry trees in my neighborhood have the same maggot problem. What's that spray you use and how do you apply it? Please can you post a video and advise where to purchase that pesticide.
You have the Cherry Piecer. Drosophila suzukii. There are traps with lures available. You can make your own traps. You can use Spinosad as an organic control or Imidecloprid as a regular control.
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Looks great man ..how much pruning have you done to the tree?
The tree is about 14 years old and has been pruned every year without fail.
Nice video! What varieties would you recommend for southern California, like the san fernando valley area? Or is just not cold enough? Thanks
It's not likely. Most ants are too small for either of those creatures to use as food. I doubt a pig can even see them well. I use barriers around plants for the ants and Spinosad bacteria to control the colonies. If they build up to large numbers and become a problem I push a stick in the ground for them to climb, flood the area with water so they are forced to climb the stick or drown. Then I spray the stick with Spinosad and kill most of the colony with one shot.
Finding earwigs up in a tree is a bit unusual. The only time I have seen this is when fruit splits and draws them. Are you getting a lot of cracked cherries? In any case if you band the tree with tangle foot they won't be able to climb the trunk. Wash the tree with a jet of water before picking and let it drip dry. This will remove a lot of the bugs. Otherwise use a bacterial bait for earwigs on the ground that contains Spinosad. Or...wear a rain coat with a motorcycle helmet!
Bears, oh my! They are pretty hard to keep out when they really want to get into something. When are you heading back to Puna?
that cherry tree deserves a good man like you , thanks for sharing
it memo Thanks for the feed back. Good thing I captured the cherry on fruiting in these videos back in 2013. This past winter has been the warmest on record for the west coast. Trees that require a good cold winter to fruit are fruitless this summer. The cherry is no exception. They need 700 to 1000 hours of constant temperatures below 42. We had less than 200 so the cherry is near fruitless. I'm usually full of solutions but when it comes to extreme climate changes all I can think of is move my tree to Washington state where it still gets cold enough to grow cherries. I'm usually stuffing my face with fresh cherries right now but I am eating citrus instead.
bird peck at fruit because they're thirsty - or so I've heard. It might help if you set up a kind of birdbath in your garden where they can drink?
The yard has three bird baths kept clean and full. Who ever told you watering birds will prevent them from eating fruit doesn't raise cherries. Feeding and watering birds only draws more of them to the local environment making them even worse pests. I have to stop tending to wild birds during spring planting to keep them from eating every seedling in the garden. Birds eat cherries for the same reason people do. They are nutritious and delicious.
Okay, send me a message in Oct. and we will make the arrangements.
I don't have much concern about the tick while living in CA or HI but we used to get plenty of them while living in WI. There they carry lymes disease. We used to have the daily grooming ritual where ever body stripped to the under shorts and had someone else pick them over like a bunch of pink apes. So if I was using Guinea fowl I would strip, lay on the floor and let them eat dinner? You can't take the hens out to the trout stream. That was where I collected the most ticks.
During this video, you mention an owl that you use to scare away birds. Some questions for you, if you don't mind, please. How many years have you been using the owl? Are you still an advocate for its use? If so, would you mind confirming whether it is battery or solar powered? Does yours make sounds? Also, do you perhaps know the brand of it and/or where you purchased it? There seem to be many garden owls for sale on the internet, and most of them get really poor reviews. Thanks in advance. Look forward to hearing from you.
First off, there is nothing other than wrapping a tree in fish net that will keep birds off of cherries completely. Anything, including owls only work to an extent and only on some types of birds. The only owl I have ever used that worked to an extent was the one with the rotating head. We used to call it an exorcist owl in the nursery business. It is called (Gardeneer By Dalen Natural Enemy Scarecrow Rotating Head Owl) and you can find it on Amazon. The rules for using it are to one, only put it up when you need it and take it down later. Birds get used to things that are always around. Two, make sure it is mounted straight up and down or the head will not move in the breeze right. Three, put it on a long pole so it is about 2 or three feet above the top of the cherry tree. When combined with bird scare tape it works pretty well on everything but crows.
The problem where I live (south Alabama) is fungal plant diseases. There are low chill hour varieties that would work here if it weren't for that.
California ready didn't have any serious diseases for cherry. We had some cankers and a few issues but nothing too bad. The Cherry Piercer Fly was the worst. I live in Hawaii now and you could grow a cherry here if your life depended on it. Got to be happy with pineapples.
i wonder if you could control ant colony using chickens or pigs..?
how do i grow a cherry tree from a sed from the fruit thank you
Cherry trees are hybrids and will not grow true from a seed. The trees are grafted to maintain variety. The seeds require scarification and cold stratification in order to germinate. Nicking the seed coat them planting and allowing seed to over winter out doors will aid germination.
I live in Missouri up on the Iowa state line I just got 2 Royal Ann cherry trees from Wal-Mart here so is there any other cherry tree I need or will this 2 be enough ?
Two Royal Ann trees are only a single tree because they are the same plant. Even if you plant 100 Royal Ann you still only have a single tree from a genetic point of view. It isn't likely that you will get a good crop from a sweet cherry tree of any type in your area but since your getting started you will find out soon enough how well the idea works out.
Since you require a second tree of a different genetic type to pollinate Royal Ann you will have to go back shopping again to see what your local suppliers find. As a California Cherry grower I never planted trees that required cross pollination. The self fertile cherries were always my go to tree. Top of the list was Stella but Lapins would also work. These two will pollinate themselves with out a second variety present. According to Dave Wilson Nursery the pollinator tree for Royal Ann is Van or Black Tartarian but not Bing.
The type of cherry tree that is sure to grow in your climate would be the Pie Cherry, North Star, Montmorency or Meteor. If things don't work out with the Royals I would consider growing pie cherries. I grew up on these in the Midwest and find them more useful than sweet cherry and easier to grow.
thanks you so much
I planted two cherry trees last winter. They are injerted onto a rootstock. The problem is that the trees won't grow, it's nearing fall and they didn't much growing, put out leaves and just a couple of short new branches. Is that normal?
No, the growth isn't normal. New cherry trees will often double in size the first season. At a distance it is difficult to tell you why this happened. Since it is two trees doing the same thing they have a problem in common. My first thought would be drought. If the trees didn't receive proper moisture they would stunt. The second thought would be if they are plants purchased in containers they may have been old and pot bound causing trouble rooting into the site. The third thought would be some sort of soil interface problem like too much compost in the planting hole or possibly too much manure or fertilizer causing burned roots. It would be less common but if you have a clay soil and the trees were over irrigated they may have rotted.
GreenGardenGuy1 That's bad news. Drought couldn't be, we are having one of the most humid years in my life in the south athlantic. I'm watering anyways. The plants at the moment I get them were on a small bunch of clay and the container was some sort of palmleaf thing. One of the plants was put on plain soil enriched with my own compost, the other was put on a big container with old compost. I will cross my fingers for the next season :(
nemodot Yeah, I'd blame a crummy soil mix and maybe poor root development because of it. Generally using homemade compost for tree potting soil isn't a good idea. If you make your compost by composting saw mill chips that are from low Turpin trees then maybe you have something with the right structure and durability. If it is made from kitchen scraps, yard waste and manure then spread it in the garden and buy high grade commercial mixes.
I get earwigs really bad in my sour cherry tree. Any tips for them? I HATE picking cherries and getting earwigs falling on me! It would be nice to be able to pick cherries without doing the screaming/jumping dance lol.
Thank you.
Hi Bill, I live in Alameda County, CA not too far from Fremont. Is it possible to grow Bing cherry here, or are the chilling hours not enough? According to this chill calculator (fruitsandnuts.ucdavis.edu/Weather_Services/chilling_accumulation_models/Chill_Calculators/?type=chill), this area gets about 1600 hours and is a 65 chilling portion using the Dynamic Model. It says Bing needs 1000-1300 chilling hours and a 65 chilling portion (fruitsandnuts.ucdavis.edu/Weather_Services/prune_chilling_prediction_about/), so wouldn't Alameda County be just right for Bing? I am confused because you and most other information I have read say it isn't cold enough for Bing here.
Bing is a poor choice for most of Alameda county. IF you live towards Livermore then it will work to an extent but if you are on the Bay side of the hills it is generally a waste of space. There is no where around the Bay where sweet cherries are well adapted. It just doesn't get cold enough and the winters seem to be getting milder with the Pacific heating up. From my point of very Bing is an inferior cherry compared to several that fruit with less chilling. My first choice in sweet cherries is Stella because it is self fertile and lower chill than Bing. Next to that I would suggest Lapins, it is also self fertile and lower chill. Stella is a much higher quality cherry than Bing. Everyone knows Bing because growers can ship the hard fruit easier. It isn't the #1 cherry in the USA because it is the best to eat.
Bing requires a second tree of a different variety in order to set fruit. Black Tartarian or Van are often used as the pollinator trees. Stella and Lapins do not require a second tree. Since they are self fertile even after a warm winter they will still produce enough pollen to set a fair crop. In the case of Bing a warm winter will often cause it to miss the pollinator trees bloom. Stick with self fertile cherries and let Bing go in the Bay, it isn't the best fruit anyway.
I just got a comment from a guy in Canada who wants to keep bears out of his cherries. Nurture in his case would be a lot like an electric fence!
nice! The place we are renting has a few fruit trees on it. I am hoping we get some fresh fruits, otherwise I hear there are some good farmer's markets around.
Impressive . I had few Cherry's this summer..I just planted Two different Types in Fairly large Plastics Container..One is Kordia and the other Sunburst..I have them in my small Porch..The sunshine is adequate..
With Regards from Hamburg,Germany..
Good luck, there is nothing like fresh cherries from the tree. I will be missing mine. We sold the house in California with the cherries back in May. Here at the new house in Hawaii we can grow pineapples, coffee and bananas but cherries are out of the question. It never gets cold enough here for them to fruit.
+GreenGardenGuy1 Thank You..But in few year's time I will be moving to Long Island in N.Y. and continue growing it at my wife's Home..Once we also had huge mansion back in the day's at our Ancestral home and my late father was in to horticulture and many other hobbies..But that is long gone with Time..I got many relatives in San Fransisco Bay area and also in Mount Shasta area..So I am aware of your emotion's after moving out of there and leaving them around..That beautiful garden.
Thanks for the Reply and wishing you to enjoy existence in Hawai..
Take Care and Good Health..
I have moved a lot and every time i move I leave behind excellent gardens. I consider it a life mission to leave the planet in better shape than I found it. I never look back, the garden left behind in California was only the stepping stone to the new on in Hawaii. The only time the past ever bothers me is when i find new owners have allowed the good work to fall apart. Gardens generally do not survive long without their gardeners. The reality is I have never returned to visit a garden once I moved away, mostly because I am afraid of what I might find.
+GreenGardenGuy1 I fully agree with you what you meant and this is very true.
Sometimes..I also feel the same looking back at my past. I have also moved a few time's in my 48 Year's and So did my wife as well. Every time the botanical loss is immense... Now Day's very few admire mother nature..These are the Insensitive plastic people..Who would not let their mobile phone's sit idle for a little while..They have no feeling's at all towards Nature and Natural surrounding's... I was born in 1969 and my wife in 1959 and both of us loves to grow Tree's, Fruit's, Flower's, Tend small animal's, Bird's and also fish..These are our aesthetic and Habit...I live in small apartment and I am the only Madman who had Two Cherry Tree's planted on either side of the porch..Even my Neighbor's..Began pulling my legs..But when I leave Germany..I will leave my Tree's behind..I have also planted similar Tree's in Denmark and few in our countryside in Hamburg where I am residing presently for the past 18 year's.. But after I leave Germany all will be lost in Haze..Same happened in India..Where I was born and raised..But some of my Tree's have survived out there..I was able to procure the News.. Life goes on only faint memories remains of the past..Once we had and now we don't, But begin from the scratch.. The way your video presentation is depicts the innermost feeling's towards Nature..I can understand the way you feel now after leaving your loved creation's..I have once felt the same..But we are the types that cannot live without growing Plant's around us and I wish you lot's of success in your new location in Hawai with Tropical Plant's.. But as you are already much aware..It takes minimum period of 10 year's for grafted fruiting Tree to mature and then the pollination part is also crucial..But in the Tropical area you can achieve success with Fruiting trees such as Mangoes,Papaya's, Rambutans,Coconuts,Bananas,Pineapple's and Coffees as you have already mentioned before..Now you are on the Sunny Side. While we face the fierce north sea wind's in Hamburg Winter...Hawai is still better to reside than Florida..I think...Because Florida is too much commercialized and Expensive in posh locations.
All the best to you and your well wisher's.. I must end my blabbering for now..
I have to agree with you at least in part. The world today is losing much of it's connection to the earth. We are of it and can not survive without it. If we take a count of how many things we use come from plants it becomes clear that they are the most important aspect of our lives. We would not be here without them. Because of this reality it is clear most people are divorced from the actual reality of their existence and live in a technological La-la land. Digital Disney World. The attachment to the smart phone is frightening and indicates some deep vacancy in our psyche. It is the first step in humans fusing their organic matrix with technological augmentation.
On the other hand, there are a few of us out here in places that see things differently. I for one assessed the smart phone and decided it help no value in my life. If I happen to need a phone, they are everywhere, I can borrow one. The Big Island of Hawaii is rather different than the Mainland USA. The spirit of Aloha is real here. Most people just live, they have little to prove so they focus more on basic life. Art, Dance and music are still central parts of life here, everyone is involved, not just the specialists. The interest in growing plants here is like nothing I have ever seen. When it comes to horticulturalists, I am humbled here and just one guy in a sea of green thumbs.
the best thing to do for the birds just pecking at the cherries is put a bird bath in as they are just trying to get some water from the fruits. works wonders in my garden when I started to do that. throw them an easy source for water and they wont try for the cherries being a little harder for them to do. plus the more birds you have the less of a nuisance the flies will be as they will eat them. I found that planting out fennel brings in red bodied wasps that feed on flying insects. I haven't had much trouble with the wasps, I usually sit there and watch the wasps feed on my fennel and on a couple of occasions saw them take out a couple knats too.
Sorry, your birds are nothing like the ones I had in Fremont. I had two bird baths and several bird feeders in the yard. The birds would get a drink, eat some seeds and then go to my cherry tree and gorge on fruit for dessert. The only time the bird problems let up a bit was when I took down the feeders and the baths in an effort to drive the birds out of the yard to find food. The more food and water I put out for the birds the higher the number of birds in the yard grew and the more the birds destroyed crops intended for my consumption. I have always fed and watered birds but doing so always increased the problems i had with them. They have no manners and take what they like. Since moving to Hawaii I have stopped feeding and watering birds. Many of the issues I have with them have disappeared. I don't know about other states but in California feeding the birds is actually a violation of wild life laws. People including my self did it anyway but it is technically illegal.
As far as wasps and Drosophila suzukii is concerned it is a recently introduced exotic pest that as of yet doesn't seem to have any natural enemies in California. The AG department may eventually decide to introduce something that feeds on them but that in it's self can have unintended consequences. Thank you for offering suggestions but I am covered on all bases you have touched and have found no relief, watering birds only made things worse.
Here is a video showing the bird life in my yard and believe me, the water only drew mobs of birds to the cherries. It made things much worse, not better. th-cam.com/video/pQORi_g3XPQ/w-d-xo.html
dang you do have super birds up there. I live in castroville ca I guess they have more food here in the country to eat than my stuff I guess
You make a good point. When I lived in Wisconsin, next to a State forest, in a county with no stoplights the birds were less trouble than in Fremont. Here in Hawaii there is a lot of natural food and lots of open space, the birds are less troublesome. Although the Cardinals eat all my chili peppers!
In the urban setting there is little food for wild life. By putting out food and water for the birds they congregated in large groups with in my landscape. They realized after a while that almost everything in my yard was edible and they proceeded to eat it. Before I moved I could not even plant from seed in the garden without putting row cover down or the birds would eat every sprout that came from the earth. Even the weeds were in danger of their beaks. Never the less, I have fed and watched birds since I was a child and I wasn't about to give up. We used to stop feeding two weeks before installing the spring or fall gardens though. This would drive most of them away and I could get some crops started. I have a love hate relationship with the little birdies.
Hi Bill, is this Bing cherry? I'm in Castro Valley. Zone 10a, similar to Fremont? I have put in a rainier and a bing last year. The bing didn't survive, so I just replaced with another one last month. You mentioned low chill hours we got here. What is your advice on bing and rainier? Are they worth to try? Or I'm making a mistake? Thanks a lot! Learning a lot from your videos!
No, the tree is a compact Stella. Bing requires cross pollination to produce. Stella is self fertile. It is also low chill. Most high chill cherries that require a second tree for pollination will miss each other during the flowering after a mild winter. I recommend sticking to self fertile sweet cherries in the Bay Area. Stella and Lapins are two good choice.
Got it. Thanks a lot! Sounded like there is a slim chance for Bing and Rainier. I just received Royal Lee and Minnie Royal Cherries yesterday. If I see Stella or Lapins, I would get one, but on the flip side my yard is filling up pretty quickly.
You can always begin to graft self fertile cherries into the trees you have already planted. In the long run you will do better in the Bay Area with these anyway. Bing is always a long shot. The fruit on Bing isn't as good as Stella anyway. The CRFG scion exchange is over for the year but most nurseries that sell bare root trees will allow the collection of scion wood from the store stock. When I ran Navlet's Nursery we gave customers free wood in winter.
Hi, Bill. And yes!! Appreciate your efforts in sharing this information. Do you have a stand somewhere we can buy your cherries from?? I'm gonna be traveling up that way soon & it would be a treat to shake your hand & get a bag or 10 of your little bites of heaven. And yes!! Life is a bowl of cherries (:
G C Thanks for the feed back. The crop is done for the year. It usually peaks at 7/4. This year between no rain fall and the warmest winter on record the cherries had only a ghost of their past crops. Cherries need 700 to 1000 hours of temperature below 42 degrees. Last winter we barely got 100. If the Pacific keeps getting warmer cherries in The San Francisco Bay area may be a thing of the past. At least the oranges are still producing.
can I grow a cherry tree in California Oxnard or is it a bad idea before I get one
I used to push the climate chill envelope trying to grow cherries in the SF Bay area. We got around 400 hours of chill and cherries take about 700 on the low end and most over 1000 hours of temperatures below 42 in order to flower properly. In Oxnard I would consider a low chill peach instead.
You must be drinking that vodka? Do I understand you right that the you were trying to use an owl to keep the bears away? Or were you using an owl for birds and the bears trashed it? Anyway, I once had bear problems in Wisconsin. The only thing that will keep bears out of a tree is an electric fencer or a steel fence so strong, sharp and tall that they can't cross it. Use electric wire or razor wire but even the razor is questionable.
Hi Green, found your video very informative. It's January here in the Northeast. Our weather was warm for a few days (40's & low 50's) but temps have since dropped again. I noticed my cherry had sap at the base of the trunk. I'm blaming this on the temps and the fact that it may have stressed the tree. Have you experienced this with your tree?
It depends on what you mean by sap. IF it is a hardened gob then this is gummosis and could be caused by bacteria infections, water molds or boring insects. If what you have is wet spots on the tree trunk from fresh leaking sap run then you have probably got a case of sun scald. If the bark freezes, then thaws then freezes hard again it can rupture the cells and kill the south side of the cambium. Usually painting the trunk white or wrapping it will prevent this type of injury.
GreenGardenGuy1 the sap was slimy not thick. do you recommend wrapping now that temps are low again .
I suggest doing so research on the sun scald of fruit trees. In your case the damage has already been done. Taking corrective action will reduce future damage but will no heal the damage that has previously occurred. This condition is caused by the South West side of the tree trunk warming to above freezing during winter and allowing it to wake up and flow sap. When the temperatures drop below freezing again the sap freezes and ruptures the cell walls causing bleeding. It is a wound in the trunk caused by warm winter weather. White paint can reflect sunlight as well as a wrap of burlap that will insulate the trunk, keeping it below freezing. The previous damage can take years to heal. It will usually show as a large peeling area of bark on the trunk during the summer. Eventually the dead bark drops away and bark from both sides will compartmentalize the wound. How long depends on how large the sun scald was.
GreenGardenGuy1 thanks much you've been most helpful. After receiving your first response I've been researching the matter and notice that this is a common problem in the Northeast with fruit trees due to the climate change. there's no way to control the weather but I'll try a few methods and see how things go.
I also had problems with this when I lived in the Midwest. Climate change or not. If you try to grow most fruit in the northern tier and do not protect from sun scald it will plague you. It was 30 years ago my apples cherries and pears would scald in Wisconsin when the weather went warm in Feb. I suspect the erratic weather of today makes the problem even worse.
wy doos the flowers on Cherry tree get brown early
Since you haven't specified what you mean by early I can only guess as to how many days these flowers take to brown out. I have never counted the days that an individual flowers stays fresh on a cherry tree but I know it isn't long at all. If all the flowers on a tree turn brown in a day then I would guess you got hit by a frost.
wondering if i could grow cherries here in the philippines my altitude is 610 meteres abv sea level
I've never been to the Philippines so an accurate answer is impossible for me. I Hawaii you would have to live above 1800 meters before you could even dream of growing cherries. Apples, Pears, plums and peaches all take less winter chilling than cherries. I believe where you live is even warmer than Hawaii so no would be a reasonable answer. They need between 700 & 1200 hours of constant temperature below 42 degrees f. every winter in order to fruit.
wow my ave temp is 32-33 degrees c
That sounds pretty warm but average temperatures are just a lot of irregular readings reduced to a figure. What matters is how low the temperature drops in the cool season and for how long.
GreenGardenGuy1 not so cool about 27c from nov to dec
Not cold enough for cherries.
Where can i buy this Stella cherry seed online?
Stella Cherry can only be propagated by grafting. The seeds will not reproduce the tree. There are many sources online where you can buy the tree as a bare root plant.
GreenGardenGuy1 Thanks. Please advise sources online where they can ship trees internationally.
@@spidermanscookingshow9362 I'm not in the business of shipping or selling cherry trees so you will have to do your own search. I will suspect that most major fruit tree growers can ship internationally provided there are no prohibitions in your country. The biggest issue for you will be the international shipping charges. They will be substantial. I would try these two sources and see what they can do. www.starkbros.com/
onegreenworld.com/
ya I hear ya on the birds, but they need to eat as well.
do you have a low chill variety?
I believe I mentioned I was growing Compact Stella. Stella is usually rated around 700 hours of chilling. This makes it one of the lowest chill sweet cherries around. Most are 1000 hours or more. Fremont only got about 420 hours of chilling so my tree was always under chilled and had some odd flowering characteristics because of the mild weather. Never the less, it produced. Bill
ahh thanks for your reply!!
I don't think I made the suggestion that you couldn't come up with a home remedy for ants. I just wasn't focusing on this aspect of control since most of the commercial products work very well & are relatively inexpensive. I suppose a person could always make their own sticky goop from pine pitch to block ants. You could grow your own tobacco or pyrethrum daisy to make bug spray. You might even adopt an ant eater from a zoo gone bankrupt!
Thank you!
You're welcome.
Well Done. Thank You
+Abu Bakr al-Baghdadi You are welcome. Sad news, with the warming of the Pacific Ocean the winters have become so mild here that for two years since this video the cherry has failed to flower and fruit. They need cold winters to get proper rest. My bananas and citrus love the mild weather but the cherry has been unhappy with it.
+GreenGardenGuy1 Then I suggest that you put the cherry trees out to stud, That is prune them for the cuttings and root the cuttings. The weather is too bad for good fruit, but is good weather to root cuttings. Kindest regards
+Abu Bakr al-Baghdadi I suppose that would work. My usual take on weather and plants is just be patient and wait for the weather to change. In the case of this tree it will have a new owner by June because I am selling this house and garden. Thanks, Bill
Why do t you put hawk too besides owl
The hawk used to come on his own to eat sparrows. To the best of my knowledge no one makes a hawk with a rotating heat. If the head doesn't move the birds just perch on it.
Oh ok .
Have you tried wind chimes . Birds hate It
Yes, I had several sets of chimes in the orchard. They put the birds in a good mood and make them hungry. The only thing I ever found that works is a .177 pellet gun. Since moving to Hawaii I can no longer grow cherries but here the birds eat my blueberries and Grumichama. I am using bird nets on wood frames. They work to a point but the birds still find gaps and then get trapped on the inside.
GreenGardenGuy1
Chimes always work for me . But In Californian you many have different species of birds lurking around.
You have polite birds. In CA the birds take what they want and little will prevent them other than barriers, bullets or booming loud enough to hurt the ears. There is little natural food left so they prey on people. In northern Wisconsin bird problems were minimal because wild food was abundant. In Hawaii the native birds stick to the native plants and fit perfectly into their environment. The imported birds have no place so they prey on crops. Bird babies learn habits from the parents so same birds in different areas have different habits. The birds in Hawaii never saw a sunflower and avoided them at first. California birds gave me two years of peace with blueberries until they discover they were edible. True story, I left the rotating head owl up for too long in my cherry tree and the crows realized they could do a merry go round by riding the head in the breeze. They would poop on it just to show me how dumb they thought it was.
how about a plum tree?
I have planted and grown plums but they aren't my favorite fruit. My partner likes them though. These days we live in Hawaii though and the only plum that will dare grow here is the Mume.
They are welcome to eat somewhere else and something else. I plant lots of stuff for wild life and feed the birds with seed and water. When I plant things for my uses the birds are not welcome. I'm not a "live and let them eat my stuff" kind of guy. Too much work, time and economic value in a lot of my efforts to allow them to become forage for flocks of starlings.
I am sure if the chickens happen to scratch into an ant hill they will probably manage to pick up a bit of food before they have to run for their lives. If you ever sat on an ant hill or had them crawl up a tree under your shirt I am sure you know what I mean. The little guys have short tempers and sharp jaws. I can't argue the fact that chickens will eat almost anything but I had up to 250 chickens past and I still had ants. Chickens are much better at controlling pray like grasshoppers.
they dont eat the ants themselves.. i figure they'd go after ant eggs?
Party tips from Canada:
Let your Cherries rot to semi- soft and stuff into a bottle of Vodka. Drink excess immediately. Do not drink bottle for two years. Place in basement or bury in dirt. Invite some Polish or Russians over. See who will be the life of the party. Tell me, how do I keep the bears away from the tree? My fake owl is not working. This was really bad advise for me. They knocked over my Apple trees because of you. No more rotating owls. ;)
Not until fall. Wish it was sooner.
The best thing you can do for any fruit tree is mulching it.
+Binkie Pinkie Plants growing without mulch are unnatural and in conflict with the principles demonstrated by nature. Clean ground under crops is an ancient understanding that can be traced back to the Greeks noticing that weeds grew better in landslide areas. They decided that stirring the soil was the key to good crop growth. The observation was only partially correct yet the practice persists to the present day. Changes in agriculture move very slowly.
yummmm, cherries!
good loolin tye dye you got there..
It softens my image.
lol id love an ant eater.. but i doubt i could feed it after the fact. need to find something else that likes eating animals.. kind alike when i found out guinea fowls would bail me out of a tick problem
Try neem oil
Are you suggesting Neem oil for aphids or for Drosophilia suzukii the Cherry Piercer? It works on aphids but would have no effect on the fly.
If only they had a bit more meat on them.
and then suudenly you find out that the tree wil be 10 meter high en 10 meter wide en never again there wil be sunshine in your garden en that it takes years to have fruit.....
Sounds like you picked the wrong tree. I used a compact Stellar on dwarf root stock that I could manage at about 8' by 10'. I grew kumquats north of it and Satsuma mandarins south of the tree with no problem. It was on the east side of my vegetable garden and the vegetables did just fine. Perhaps you grew one of the less compact forms on standard root stock and didn't prune much. That would be a big tree.
Birds be damned!!!
Where you live is my name
+JJ Hot Rod That happens some times. Any relation to General Fremont?
it's to bad.. not a way to control it without putting forth.. money.. or something you can grow yourself.. freakin ants lol and there farming
Smoke a joint and eat cherries.
So I lose my mind at the same time my bowels open fire? Cherries are a heck of a laxative. I'd be keeping my wits about me if I indulged deeply.
Not until fall. Wish it was sooner.