Fender Jazz Bass '77 VS Sire Marcus Miller V5
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This is my third video of comparising original Fender Jazz Bass from 1977 with other different basses. This time it is a new Sire Marcus Miller V5, with roasted neck and 70s specs.
Let me know in the comments what you think about the sound differences :)
Fender Jazz Bass 1977 - Maple neck with block inlays, Black over Mocha colour, with Hipshot KickAss bridge and brass saddle inserts.
DR Pure Blues 40-100 strings on Fender.
Sire Marcus Miller V5 - Marcus Vintage-J Revolution Pickup Set, Roasted Hard Maple neck with rolled fretboard edges, North American Alder body.
Stock factory 45-105 strings on Sire.
0:10 Both Pickups, Tone 100% Off
2:37 Neck Pickup, Tone 100% Off, Muted
3:45 Both Pickups, Tone 100% On
5:04 Bridge Pickup, Tone 100% Off
7:14 Both Pickups, Tone 100% ON, Muted, Pick
9:39 Neck Pickup, Tone 100% Off
Recorded through Focusrite Scarlet 2i2 with just a bit of compression on both basses.
Music themes in this video:
-A Taste of Honey - Boogie Oogie Oogie
-Led Zeppelin - Dazed and Confused
-RATM - Killing In The Name
-Jaco Pastorius - Chicken
-Led Zeppelin - Good Times Bad Times
-Led Zeppelin - Rumble On
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Honestly, one of the best reviews comparing the Sire with a classic Fender Bass. No better way for us to be able to hear difference. If you're using the bass to record and go through a DI Box, you can make EQ adjustments or do EQ on the DAW to change the tone. If you're live, you can go through a Bass pedal and use EQ to find the ideal sound. You did great Obrad, thank you!
Thanks
I really like how he shows the different tone settings and plays the exact same bass lines on both basses….Drives me nuts when dudes compare basses and play totally different bass lines … makes it so hard to compare!!
The midrange growl of the fender is very present. Love it
If money is not a problem, I pick the Fender in this video. If you consider the money, Sire is a crazy good deal for the quality.
According to 'Reverb' a 77 Jazz goes for around 2750 to 5000 dollars. The Sire is 500 dollars. I have the Sire and a Fender Flea, and the pickups in the Sire are definitely a bit anemic .... but can easily be replaced. And it plays like a dream.
even then that can be an appeal to amplification, cabinets, or pre-amp without messing with the voicing of the instrument. My Sire U5 is on the quiet side, for me I just found I had to eq it differently.
The fact that you tested these by getting the Led out makes my respect for this video go up 10 fold. That tone you achieved with the Sire on Dazed was incredibly accurate. I really think I need to add one of these to the collection. And you just can't beat them for the price.
I honestly like the sound of the Fender better, it sounds more clear, the sire sounds a bit muffled to me.
More vol on the mix and fixed. Sire rocks and funks.
The Fender has the edge in look and sound but those Marcus basses come damn close for much less money
The Sire has no chance against the Godzilla of Basses, a 70's Fender Jazz bass
The V5 is amazing build, just a dream and incredible to play... under 500 Dollars..if you want, change the pickups to Area J .DiMarzio...to get near to the Fender 77... or.perhaps better..You can because the bones and build quality is outstanding for the price...Fender create this unique 70 sound .. amazing...Fabuloso !! Thank you for the soundcheck
not UNDER 500. it's 599 = 10% tax so 650.... no discounts given either. So don't troll...
The fender has more of a character and more "ping".
Not to say sire sounds bad. Sire are awesome.
I think if i had the sire i would change pickups.
The fender have the growly side on his sound, the sire don't have or less. But in the mix can we notice that ? A very nice comparison ! Bravo ;-)
Thank You
This is a very well done test.. chapeau 👍👍👍
No one would know how to distinguish them in a blind test, wonderful work Obrad! Sire did an amazing job with these basses. I have the 5-string v5 and it doesn't need any upgrade, it never goes out of tune and the pickups sound with an impressive mojo and growl!
Thank You. I hope you'll like the other videos on my channel and consider subscribing (If you haven't already) 👍
It’s amazing how good the jazz sounds with tone on Zero!!! It’s awesome
You can't judge the true sound of either bass from what you just watched and heard because 1. they both have different strings ( which plays a major factor in the sound ) 2. age of instrument 3. amplication and eq etc... so this test is not really one you should base your decision by.
Excellent video and great playing! I own both basses and feel you did a great job showing them accurately. The Fender sounds richer, but for the money, the Sire is hands down the value for the money! I have basses that cost over $5k, but I proudly also own 4 Sire basses (V7 Vintage, P7, M7, & D5).
Thank You. It looks like we have similar taste...P Bass Postmodern and Sandberg
Hey man! Im looking for a new bass and I’m interested in Sire but I don’t really need the preamp most of them get built with. Volume and tone is enough for me really, the problem that I’m facing is the question: are the cheaper passive Sire basses from the same quality as the more expensive ones and are you really paying for the preamp if you buy a more expensive one?
Man, its good job! Thanks!
Thank You for watching :)
Sire sounds good but the Fender is simply better
The Sire sounds good but the Fender is on a whole different level
It’s that vintage tone.
I love how good the jazz sounds on the RAGE track….
ive been using fenders for years i have a japan fender marcus bass i love it i needed a 5 string so i bought a sire v3 i got it really cheap its a mahagony body i left the stock pre amp and i had these old alembic jazz pick ups oh my god does the sire sound killer and as far as craftsmanship the sires are made well ans honestly it didnt sound bad stock for what you pay.anyway sires are well made and to pay 300 for a new 5 string active etc plus it played great right out of the box is it a fender no but they are great basses ive only been playing 42 years lolol my first bass was nowhere as good as a sire thanks for the video bro!!!!
Love that V5! I have a P8 that sounds amazing too.
The Sire tone rolls off a lot more treble than the Fender! It's amazing!
I Agree. It looks like the sound is more similar with tone all the way on.
@@ObraBass By the way, your mute looks interesting! Did you make it or buy it somewhere?
@@TheBartostock It’s just a piece of sponge from the pyramidal soundproof wall insulation
@@ObraBass Wow, it looks like it's both above and below the strings- I guess it's just a thick piece!
The Fender for me ,it’s got a kind of aggressive tone the sire doesn’t manage.
Listening with good headphones, I thought the Fender sounded a lot clearer. The V5 had no treble.
I think I do prefer the Fender, but it's not like the Sire sounds bad!
The difference that the swapped-out bridge makes over the stock one on the Fender is enormous... I did this with my Fender Jazz bass, I swapped it with a BadAss.., it was a different planet... I would argue this is not a fair comparison... I would wager if you put the original Fender bridge back on, then did the test against the Sire would win hands down.. Just my opinion..😉
Odlican video, pozdrav iz Nisa! Da li mislis da Sire V5 moze da se koristi za profesionalna snimanja (metal, rock, prog rock, hc)? Ako ne, koju bi preporucio u nekom pristupacnom cenovnom rangu?
Hvala i pozdrav iz Novog Sada. Iz mog skromnog iskustva sa Sire brendom, mogu slobodno reci da se ti basovi apsolutno mogu koristiti za sve profesionalne aktivnosti, od lajv svirki do snimanja svih vrsta. Sitni dodaci ne bi skodili, tipa obaranje ivica pragova, ili eventualna zamena magneta kome ne odgoaraju. Svirljivost i kvalitet su nesporni, pogotovo u odnosu na njihovu cenu.
I believe the newer Sire pickups have been upgraded as my new V5 sounds some better than this one a little more dynamic and less muffled. Although this sound was greatly influenced by whatever amp he’s using and how it was EQ’d, great playing by the way. For the $ Sire all the way a better value!👏👍
The J bass has a distinct advantage w/the Kickass bridge. I put one on my '75 P bass and it never sounded better or clearer. I also put one on my 2021 Squire Paranormal '54 J bass and it too ROCKS. The Sire needs a pickup and bridge upgrade IMHO. I also just purchased a Sire V5 5 string fretless and am waiting for its mfg.
Thanks for the comment, it's appreciated. However, I have a completely different opinion about the kickass bridge or any other "massive" bridges. I think that sustain (often associated with massive bridges) is an overrated fictional thing. On my basses, I always replaced massive bridges with vintage ones 🙂.
Federazione Italiana, Maldini, Baresi, Costacurta, Nesta, Cannavaro and Sire👍🙂🤘Sire got more middle range so its louder than Fender, and price of the Sire is so fantastic for the quality and sound.
Nice comparison.
Thanks :)
Nice job!
However, I would have really enjoyed this comparison even more if both basses were strung with the same exact strings. Factory strings rarely sound as good as a fresh set, let alone a higher quality set. While I don’t know what Sire ships with, they’re likely a relatively low cost string.
All that said, I think the Sire holds its own against the Fender quite well, especially when you factor in price point.
Sire come with decent strings. D'addario
The Fender just sounds like raw power, Sire is more sophisticated.
i'd like to have a Sire sounding like this black JB :)
Tonewise both are nice. More mids on the 77, more scoop/bass on the Sire.
But my ears tell me you are way more confident on the 77. Playing juicier licks and with more precision.
They both sound great to me. But probably they feel much different in the hands.
You are absolutely right
Sire definitely plays better for me. But you can't beat the sounds of a good 70s Fender IMO.
For the price no doubt the Sire V5
Does anyone know if JACO played ,”The Chicken “, with the tone on zero? I’m really surprised how good the jazz sounds with no tone for finger funk!
So beginner's question.. If you put Fender's pickup on the sire, will they sound the same?
My experience says if not the same, then pretty damn close, You probably wouldn't recognize it. There will be a big pickup test at my channel for holidays as a lot of comparison in that area soon. Follow my channel for new videos that are coming.
why is the tone knob more turned back at the sire bass???
It's not. It on the same percentage. Only the knob with its line is not screwed at the same angle.
Not a lot off difference. I've heard similar differences in two guitars from the same brand.
Definivamente el Fender 77' Equilibrio perfecto
Are the Fender pickups original from ‘77?
Yes
What is the songs you use ?
-A Taste of Honey - Boogie Oogie Oogie
-Led Zeppelin - Dazed and Confused
-RATM - Killing In The Name
-Jaco Pastorius - Chicken
-Led Zeppelin - Good Times Bad Times
-Led Zeppelin - Rumble On
The Sire has a warmer tone which I prefer over the '77 Fender.
Which strings did you use on both?
I recorded Fender a year ago and Sire a few months ago, so unfortunately the strings was not the same. Fender had DR Pure Blues 40-100, and Sire had stock factory 45-105.
@@ObraBass No way you can compare with diferent strings, in both with 40-100 probably the sound gets nearer, i own sire V5 5 and 4 the sound is great and for the price awsom.
@@ObraBass nice comparison video! Great job!
I also own a Sire V5 and love its sound, playability and the overall quality. I recently made a cover video of Power-Marcus Miller here. Check this out:
th-cam.com/video/qqu9wPoBLGI/w-d-xo.html
@@ObraBass ....not fair enough 😂....you must try the Sire with DR strings 🙏
the price diference is huge, but fender still sounds better
I’d have to go with that Jazz!! However the price you can not beat the sire . And let’s not forget that the sire was made for beginner players who do not want or have the funds to go big on a bass yet. I love that black and maple!!! With the tone at 100% on the sire it definitely has more comparable fender tone then with the tone off,
fender all the way
Fender obviously sounds better but the sire does a great job. Fully open A lot of it is in the body of the note and I wonder how much a high mass bridge would affect that and same strings. It's never going to get all the way there but it would be a bit closer.
I love my sire. I have the albridge on my 4 string v5 but it gave it a weird sound in the top end I didn't really like because of the material it's made of I think. I want to try the kickass bridge on my 5 string v5 when it comes in.
obviously? Who are you - clown. Keep your opinion yo yourself. Nothing is obvious. Teh V5 won this - here...pbviously.
If the sire feels good to play, switch out the pickups with, say, fender cs 60's, or nordstrand j type. On the sire, i truly think its the preamp choking the tone- marcus had his j bass modded with a bartolini preamp.
I listened to the samples without watching the videos. It was like hearing the same thing twice and any small difference between can be fixed with eq. That difference is not worth 1000+ dollars for sure.
fender 77 alder body ???? sounds amazing !
The Fender sounds better, but the modern day equivalent of that bass would cost triple the price of the Sire.
Sire Is very cute...
Pozdrav, zanimljiv kanal i zapracen :)
Da li si imao prilike da sviras Sire P5 i ako jesi da li mozes da podelis svoje misljenje?
Hvala👍. Na zalost nisam imao prilike da sviram P5. Jedini koji mi je ''podleteo pod ruku'' je ovaj V5 koji mi je ostavio utisak odlicnog instrumenta u odnosu na cenu koliko kosta.
Sire sounds Better no doubt
Meglio fender . Più presente in carettere jazz bass . però sire v5 ovviamente accettabile ugualmente
Just hate Sire headstock!
Sire sounds better
Fender Original or a Chinese Copy of a Fender?
Original
Tone 100% off? do you mean Tone 0%?
Yes....I don't know what was I thinking 😂
@@ObraBass happens ^^
500$ VS 4000$ ;)
Simplesmente uma cópia do Fender ! Nada mais, sem personalidade !
.....brought to you by Fender lol
No, it's not! Nobody paid me for this video, nor are any of these basses in the test mine. I tried to make the most realistic test that I was able to make.
Sell me your fender jazz how much ?
Sorry, not mine...
@@ObraBass thx really nice bass
@@edgarojeda9288 Yes it is. My friend also didn't want to sell it to me.
@@ObraBass Nice videos btw!
It is obvious that the Sire's pickups sound more than inferior to those on Fender. But, to do a right comparison, we should put the Same pickups on both bodies to hear the truth...
I have a five string V5 ,this bass is not pumped the pickups not have volume.Fender all life.
Tone is open , not off.
Thank You very much.
GUARDA CHE SI PIZZICA SUI PICKUP E NON IN MEZZO...MA CHE BASSISTA SEI? MA LO FAI DI LAVORO???🤣🤣🤣🤣
I really don't understand the question?
pickups are not at the same height - so the 77 seems louder.....but if you gain match them, the Sire has way more bass power - and a more subdued, less harsh high end... Also need to use same strings. Overall Sire wins for me...
No one would know how to distinguish them in a blind test, wonderful work Obrad! Sire did an amazing job with these basses. I have the 5-string v5 and it doesn't need any upgrade, it never goes out of tune and the pickups sound with an impressive mojo and growl!
Thank You very much 👍
I can tell the difference between them even on my tiny iPad speaker.
@@radiantmind8729 lol okay, just like you can probably tell the difference between 320kbps MP3 and lossless audio
@@Moleskineman ... the Sire sound is brilliant for the price, very high value for money BUT the difference is very noticeable. If you can't distinguish it then tough luck. And yes, I own a '78 Jazz Bass.
@@hushpuppykl my guy is listening on a 2mm iPad speaker, there's no way he can tell the difference