Private Note to my QRM Station
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 21 ต.ค. 2023
- We have had three stations that QRM me. We have used KiwiSDR to track down two of them. This station is the newer one and we are close to tracking him down too.. I would prefer that we didn't have to try. Anyway, I say it all in the video. I'm not angry, I just want to understand him and help him out. PS - When I say "we", I refer to an Army of volunteer folks and local clubs who help me out with the DF problem and intelligence. Thanks. Callum.
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Biggest mistake you can make to anyone who deliberately sets out to annoy other people is to acknowlege them because the minute you do you give them exactly what they want - their own skewed version of validation. These sorts of people don't want solutions they want reactions and even if you then go on to say their actions aren't bothering you in their heads they will still believe that they are by the very fact that you've acknowledged their actions. :(
This is absolutely the solution. Give these people no air. Do not acknowledge them in *any* way publicly, because this is exactly what they crave. If you must, direction find them (as Callum is doing!) and let them know in private that "you know where they live" (perhaps phrased in a slightly less threatening way :)) but again, not in public.
All that said I absolutely admire what Callum is trying to do here and he clearly has a lot of empathy - I hope it works :)
To be fair, Cal has echoed this exact thought on stream before.
Changing the medium has a lot of power. This isn't a ham talking to another ham over some vibrating fabrics of reality.
This is a man who has some reach using his reach to try to help people.
This demonstrates two things: you can't shut Cal up, because you can't cause QRM on TH-cam, and that Cal didn't "lose".
Not responding looks very much like being cowed, like "they won". Not to you or I, but to the folks who act this way.
People like this are still people. They have a reason they're doing the things they're doing, and they're likely to have a much harder time justifying doing it if they're not getting the reaction they want.
They want Cal upset, angry, cowed, embarrassed. Showing them that he's not any of those things is, again, a powerful message.
Cal isn't shaken, he's not upset, not angry. He's just disappointed. That difference doesn't come across on the radio, but it comes across very well on video.
@@b4ux1t3-tech no one was suggesting he was but people are people and this kind of behaviour is universal whether they are a ham or not. Being a Ham doesn't change peoples basic behaviour...
@@Bad-wolfe the thing is, I disagree with the premise that ignoring problems makes them go away. It's never proved to be true, in my experience.
Ignoring someone like this makes them feel like they got to you. Yelling at them makes them feel like they got to you.
Calmly asking to speak to them privately to establish a dialogue does not look like they got to you. It looks like compassion. If they're not used to compassion then, at the very least, this is a chance for them to experience it and maybe, just maybe, figure out they prefer that to trolling.
@@b4ux1t3-tech we'll just have to agree to disagree on this one. I believe the individuals involved have a history of this kind of behaviour and its highly doubtful trying the 'be kind' approach will work.
These people are interested in causing disruption and they are not interested in discussion.
Your theory sounds nice in principle but when dealing with these types it doesn't work in practice.
They wanted a reaction and now they've gotten one. I strongly suspect that this will only serve to encourage more of this behaviour from them now because now they know they are getting acknowledgement the next step they'll want is a negative reaction because that was ultimately their goal from the onset
We had a station on 2 metres back in early 1980's objecting to our net. We called him the creaker. He would hold the PTT button down and his mic would creak as he held it in hand. We just carried on chatting in our usual friendly way, talking about technical stuff and arranging pubs to meet. After a few months of this we got curious and one of my mates tracked him down to Blackheath, London area, but couldn't find actual house. The next day i went out and nailed the exact address. Over the next few days i collated all public info i could find on him, including name from electoral register, name of daughter who lived with him, tel number and of course call sign. The next time he came on creaking, i read out everything. We never heard from him again. Not so easy to DF on HF, but still possible given help from hams in different areas or countries.
Yeah, I have called my first two by their first names and they calmed down a bit!
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I hope, when I get my licence, that I can be as patient, helpful and understanding of an operator as you are. 🌟🌟🌟🌟🌟
some people are grown ups, knowledgable and born mentors. Others are CB radio people who got hold of a ham-radio.
@zoolkhan you know how many of us hams these days are/used to be CB operators? I’ve heard MANY old timers on the ham bands behave atrociously. Including Callum, and many other of the modern great operators. Without CB operators ham radio would be dead by now.
@@zoolkhancheck in on 7.200mhz and listen. Fine example of ham operators. Worse than any CB I've ever heard.
If you build a confession box, he will come.😂💥🤛
Well said Callum, we are all odd in one way or another. Kudos to you for being a better person to fix the issue.👍🤠💥
Tnx Don. I try!
When I hear someone key the mic but no signal is sent, I usually transmit my call sign and say, "Go ahead, caller..." I'll either get a radio check or they quit sending empty carriers... I just let them know I am ready to have a conversation if they are. 😉
Hi,good subject, well explained, I hear operators playing music and deliberately annoying people trying to enjoy their hobby, I feel especially sorry for the low power stations, thanks for shining some light on this subject, 73s from Rotterdam.
Thanks for watching!
I love the notice across the screen and the first names thrown out there at the end....well done, sir.
I once had an old radio that had such a wide signal and I didn’t know the harmonics were so strong I was inadvertently radiating a signal on other ham bands unintentionally. When our Radio Club had a technician that brought in a new piece of equipment and asked for members to bring in radios to test as part of the demonstration I volunteered my radio and OMG did we get a big surprise and big laugh out of the test results. Well I retired that radio and got something else. Sold the radio cheap at a ham fest with a disclaimer that it was radiating spurious signals and needed work. Another commercial radio tech bought it for a project. I got lots of ribbing for a long time about that rig. 😂
HAHA! I had a friend that I could hear on every FM channel one night!
The more attention you give a QRMer, the more they get a thrill out of it. I've discovered the best medicine is to completely ignore them and talk through the garbage or spin the dial. If you mention their QRM once.....you're stuck with them forever.
Great attitude and perspective, hopefully this individual can fill that empty need with something more gratifying, 73.
I was so impressed with how you dealt with this the other day, and generally just your whole aura. I was about to call in on Friday when you had to stop, and while I'm disappointed I know there'll be other occasions and I just hope this person feels more like themselves soon.
Hiya Mark.. Nice comment. Tnx.
Has frustrating as it is we need to remember that not everyone is wired the same way. Do not get me wrong I am not condoning the behaviour, It could be an idiot or someone who is at a dark place at this moment in their lives. We have someone local on 2mtrs, who through losing his wife as turned to drink. He often has a conversation with himself about how pot noodles do not taste the same and plays music. Even though its frustrating its all down to loneliness. Well done Cal for offering the olive branch
I was watching this unfold live and listening in on my rig. I must say Callum what an amazing way of dealing with that. I would have been throwing things at walls. I take my hat off to you for the calm and controlled way you handled it. Hopefully he will move on, or better still join in.
Joining is is just fine.
Cal, I really admire your calm and considered approach to the QRM issue and your offer to help is quite remarkable. Good on you, 73s and wishing you a clear frequency, Pete
Thank you kindly
Whenever you break the seal on a new deck of Bicycles, you always find a couple of Jokers... Never mind the Bollocks, and All the Best! 73 DE W8LV BILL
There is always a village idiot 😊
Ive always been the odd one out 😂
73
Callum, you are a star an absolute gentleman.
A button pusher, as we used to call them on the old CB. Too much time on their hands.
Well said, I couldn't of put it better myself, star man.
Regards
Dave.
Cal, metal illness is a powerful thing and these folks must know that most people want to help them not harm them and like you say they also need to join a club because it’s a all around helpful environment.
Some people get some kind of weird satisfaction causing disruption. Other cannot stand the notion of someone that they see are similar to them being successful. They make it their mission to tear others down for no other reason than they can and a need to feel in control or to exert control over others. Giving them the reaction they expect feeds them. Giving them Callums reaction at least opens the door to a conversation they likely lack the spine to have but as has been said they got a reaction, at least here the door here is opened.
Class act Callum. Nice way to handle it. Hopefully this person will do the right thing and be an adult about it.
Top Man Cal, would be great if you / we could help this individual.
WTG Cal! 👏💐
I have had similar problems stateside. Sad hams are going to be sad hams.
my wife causes lots of QRM!!! I’ve developed selective hearing… it works like a band pass filter and squelch. I rarely hear her anymore 🤭
I am going to assume, maybe incorrectly, that your XYL and you have had a child or two, also. Children have a way of developing selective hearing in the parent, and when they fly the coop, the parent can use that technique when the spouse causes QRM, LoL!
And I thought I was the only one!
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HAHA!
Over the years I have met a number of people that have felt the need to be badly behaved on radio, often they are not stupid but have some strange axe to grind. One of the great characteristics of radio is that the "ether" has no memory, they can make some big waves but when they are gone there will be no trace that they were ever there. Would be great if you find a resolution and some understanding. 73
When such activities become very public - as in your TH-cam case they are - then I think it is beholden on Ofcom to track them down and hold them accountable, lest they encourage others to do the same. In the (good ?) old days they used to stick heads on poles. Nowadays I think a public shaming and revocation of licence/fine should suffice.
Worst mistake is acknowledging. I understand it's annoying, we've got these trolls in the states and our neighbors up north. It's getting out of hand, it's getting out of control, but the worst thing you can do is acknowledge them. I commend you for taking the gentleman's route trying to take care of it between the two of you. They won't respond, they will continue and it will get worse. That's where my faith is lately and I hate that, I hate being that negative and I have the bleak outlook. It would be nice if the FCC, Industry Canada, OFCOMM and other governing agencies did something about these issues. Unfortunately at least on this side of the pond, it doesn't look like much is going on. Keep your chin up cal and don't let the Bast***s get you down.
It's called a last [polite] warning :)
@@DXCommanderHQ and even though I'm only seeing text here, I see your actual grin. I would suggest they heed the [polite] warning. Comment was more to say we are all frustrated, and biting the tongue does get difficult. Calum, thanks for saying what is on a lot of our minds. Most of us don't have the platform to do it.....graciously (I believe that is the proper term).
A big video to make would be how you use kiwisdr to find such individuals. Would be interesting!
Yes, we are doing that every time - not me, but the "team".
I’m sure my story is not unique but when it happens it can be a story that’s added to the Club’s List of Stories to tell and laugh about
Only time I have had ever done this is when I had microphone / audio issues on old CB. Never deliberately, but did do some gonking back in the day, but in a light hearted way and not for long. It's sad that some folk have nothing better to do than spoil other peoples enjoyment of the hobby. It must be a mental issue, attention seeking, etc. I suppose if they lock onto you, they can't play someone else up at the same time. Hope it's a temp problem for your transmissions and the cuprit sees the light. 73's Andy M6APJ.
Mental illness is a terrible thing.
Hey, don't bring mental illness into this. Lots of us have real bad psychiatric issues and are not a-holes. Being an a-hole is a choice, especially the kind that requires organized premeditated directed effort. This is not a confused distressed person having a break with reality; this is just a plain and simple a-hole.
Telling them to do it to someone else, does not stop the issues, it just passes it off, clearly these people have some mental issues, and they need all the help they can get, but, I feel the "If it does not affect me, it's not a problem" stance, is wrong, they simply should not be doing it to anyone.
Please make a video better than this :)
I have no Background story about this video,
What do you mean about closing down! Did someone Report your station or something
Very beginning of video shows and so does description.. Last Friday, the intentional QRM meant that we couldn't continue .. certainly not on 40m and 80m.
Time to get the GPO van out of retirement and send it round.
Haha.. The old GPO vans!
It's too bad that new KiwiSDRs are no longer available.
I had planned to eventually purchase one. 😕
they are working on v2 for the kiwi series.. it will get there.
@@dennis8019 Great news! Thank you!
You take care Cal. you know the Commandor as a big army behind him. I don't know why these people do it? i do have someone now and a gone try to mimink the way my speak but like you i just let them get on with it. I don't know if you have hear of Bunker on the air its like Parks on the air, but with BOTA its the ROC BUNKERS that are activated and I have been able to Activate to of the BUNKERS near me. Portable is so much different and I have not just had any micky caking of my speech if I do, I'm like you I'll shrug my shoulders and carry on. All the very best Cal 👍 and 🖕that to the brain less ones
Wow callum couldn't be kinder I'm impressed because I'd be a total dick about it I'd really not be able to be as calm and kind . Again callum your a gent and a schola good on ya
through out my time on the air my friends and I have came across people like this twice 1 was local and the other we found out was 4 states over. so we went on a trip 1 weekend surrounded their house and had our regular ragchew session on our mobiles which we started out low power then they started the interface then we went to full power 100w and they knew they was had then we kept circling their house honking till 1 AM and before we left we told them we knew where they lived and we don't need to come back problem solved 😂😂😂
I had one on today on 40m, I was told it was someone call Phil, he's also a ham radio operator M Licence, not sure if it's 100% correct, it's a pain in the ass all this rubbish on HF any how I hope you sort it out 73's track them all down ....... Cal :)
There's 3 regulars..
Did I miss something? Seems like something happened, not sure what?
See description.
Qrm Stations on every band sadly , as you say the qrm station has great signal and could really be enjoying the radio hobby rather than being a busstop #ANKER
No...old days was peace, love and the Beetles...maybe these days Peace, Love and Lorde?? :)
Yeah.. maybe!
Mr DX.....what is it that your going on about....
Intentional QRM. Read the comment if you are unsure - or check the description.
I've noticed a rise in QRMing as cycle 25 starts to deliver regular DX and a lot of it definitely comes from Alpha Tango land but it's also fair to say the dickheads calling ola,ola,ola as they squeeze ever more power out of their Expert or Acom into their roof mounted vertical will be from practically any eastern European country but covering their escapade by pretending to sound like an Italian tuner upper.
Sometimes a mutual resolution is the best way forward for all concerned , so well done for trying to reach out to this operator . If the operator is reading this then remember this is just a fun hobby enjoyed by several thousands in the UK , and Millions worldwide . Please don`t take away the fun from it !
Maybe 10s of thousands in the UK 😅
@@martinuk777 Yes the number of UK call signs is around 80k
Callum I get this daily on 40 metres so I know your frustration.I like you give people the benefit of doubt,but jamming intentionally is wrong. They need guiding correctly if possible, if not claim and shame if you have solid proof of who it is?The people who are doing it to me are presently being checked by ofcom so conditions will improve we hope?God be with you brother your links are great as are your nets so keep doing what you do and a big hello to my fellow amateur radio operators.
VJ! Hello mate.. Ofcom don't normally want to know..
Callum I been watching your videos a long time......keep up the good work SWLer.
Very disappointing behaviour. Just ignore them. Switch off and try again later.
Best wishes Cal
I can't imagine anyone wanting to QRM you...
I don’t condone QRM but sometimes I find it hilarious. For instance a Russian station with a pile up just said 5/9 or again again on every contact. A guy came in there and just imitated his responses for a solid 30 minutes because they were so predictable. I laughed my ass off. Boomers need to lighten up, it’s a hobby.
A CB'er?
Not necessarily. You’d be surprised if you knew about the background and licence class of one or two of these perpetrators, (passed their morse and everything don’t you know). Don’t class CB ops as an automatic member of the plant-pot club. Most CB guys are bloody good folks who are good operators. 73
@@timg5tm941 I listen to Channel 35 LSB regularly for entertainment. It's like being a fly on the wall in a loony bin.
@@James_Bowie about the same as much of 75/80m
Just pay a mook to pin his coax.
LIDs will be LIDs… just looking for attention
I would like to talk with him..
I used to be a complete gangsta on CB when I was a kid 😂😂😂 somebody came to cut my coax and they managed to cut the TV coax instead of my radio coax.. morons. Anyway, it freaked me out being like 14 years old at the time. They bragged about it on the radio.. until I keyed up and they heard me raising hell again. 😂😂😂 luckily I grew up… well.. maybe a little.. haha
Yeah, eventuially we grow up.. Well, maybe!
F*** it Calum, you're still very odd now! :)
Always odd.. Aren't we all?
Drop me a address cal I’ll pin his coax lol he needs it your still to strong over the top of him Mark
Obviously someone struggling to pass their Foundation license.
As a M7 license holder I find your comment quite insulting.
I once made a guy's life bad for 5 minute's. It was a contest and I had never seen a contest before.
I got a contact and I moved frequency and got ignored.
I realised later he had already logged me, I had a couple of drinks.
I thought he was being a dick he thought I was we had a little word here and there, I realised I was actually in the wrong so I switched off.
Just man up and admit you're wrong.
Great comment!
There's always one.
73 M7TUD
Get people who can help involved. If it continues, then bring it to the appropriate officials, or people who can help with the process of shutting these lids down.
dont feed the trolls. talkin to them, angry or friendly has never improved anything.
the only thing that works is triangulation and to put a sewing needle into his coax then clip it off the needle on both sides of the coax.
He will never find that spot, and has to replace the coax. That would deliver the message and can be done on the outside of the house usually.
If he catches you and calls the police, then the police will get to hear both sides of the story :)
Since we all are too lazy, or law abiding to do any of that, we have to admit defeat, and change the mode to digital for a while.
VaraC is great for ragchewing in groups or solo, and not much fun to try and qrm.
tl;dr - dont feed the trolls.
We have the same problem on a different frequency - very persistent guy, he is at it for years - and because there is always someone acknowledging him, he will keep going...
same as on VHF, china is now flooding the market with el-cheapo transceivers - they are sold to anyone these days
expect the situation to grow worse.
cheers with beers, 73 timo\oh8xat
Next time :)