These days we talk about nothing else. If they wanted to be cutting edge, talk about Christians who have come out of the gay lifestyle. You would never see a story like that because Hollywood is full of cowards.
my favourite line in here is Kurt’s “I’m really happy you’re alive, David”. He’s showing the most genuine form of forgiveness and I think he refers to Karofsky by his first name because he’s finally human to Kurt. He’s not just a bully anymore, he feels pain too and they always called him Karofsky because in a way it dehumanises him. But for Kurt to be happy that David is alive... that shows some real humility.
@@ainsleyflower304 I’m not happy they’re dating because yes he did terrible things in the past and that will never change. I try to remember that here is and was truly sorry and made it known, and Kurt forgave him. He was the one who went through it all with him so if he can forgive him, we should at least try. Doesn’t mean we have to be happy about them dating
Forgiveness is important. Without it, you only hold grudges. Hate begets hate. If you really want love, you show love to those who never have shown it to you. It's the only way to break the cycle. To continue a belief of hating someone for their past without seeing reason or understanding, causes that person to become truly evil and fall even deeper into their abyss of hate. Yelling at someone for things they did without seeing changes they made is wrong. That's the problem with this day and age. It's not accountability, is the ability to be forgiven and have their transgressions forgotten. You can't expect people to wear their families ashes like they're fuckin Kratos.
well the thing is...Karofsky wasn't just a bully, he had a deep seeded issue that Kurt had too. It's a very valid reason for his behavior. Not an excuse but a reason, so I think it's a little easier to move forward with someone, when you both feel that deep connection.
Max Adler did a great job playing both the bully Korofsky and the tortured David. -- He was way too mature looking to play a high schooler but that doesn't take away from his skill as an actor. I hope he's still out there working.
The Suicide episode was handled very well by the writers and actors. Darren Criss's song "Cough Syrup" was perfect; it still haunts me of Max Adler's character attempting suicide.
Haunts you? I came out as bi at this "end of grade 8" party somebody was throwing to test the waters bc im really just gay. They were fine with it. I saw this episode during the summer right before high school. When I tell you I RAN into that closet so fast; Jesus came to me and asked me how anything could happen so quickly. he just never seen anything so fast. JK bc I already told too many people about being bi so catholic high school grade 9 and 10 were fun.
“Can I be a sports agent?” Kurt opens his eyes and smiles. That part hits me. He finally knows a little more about David and he wants in life. He wasn’t some jock asshole closeted and following the pack. He actually loves sports and dreams of being in them. I know I might be thinking to much, but why would they put that in if I wasn’t supposed to be moved by it?
Many bullies are that way because they suffered abuse and ridicule themselves and they think they're only protecting themselves from getting hurt again. It's sad.
Yeah it is actually really moving. Not only because Kurt learned more of who he was as a person but because the fact that he was talking about what he wanted to do in the future proved to Kurt that he was thinking about about having a future and that gave Kurt hope after he'd just attempted to end his life. Definitely a beautiful moment.
I respect Kurt so much for doing this. I mean come on, this took GUTS! Kurt is such a good person 💕. Even behind that, Chris is such a good actor in this scene. Fantastic! 💕
It’s especially fantastic as the character was written into the show because they loved Chris’ audition so much. He’s the best actor to become famous due to the show.
I totally agree life hands you up's and down's and you have to take the good with the bad but in this one episode I am not a fan of David's MOM who tells their ONLY SON YOU HAVE A DISEASE AND YOU NEED TO BE CURED I mean come on as if his former best friend's and class mates teasing him relentlessly over this wasn't BAD ENOUGH no apparently NOT he has to get it at home also SERIOUSLY she's his MOTHER for crying out loud she's supposed to protect him and love him no matter what not allinate him like e everyone else is doing
@@nerdygeekgamer5528 Hate to say it but this stuff happens more then you think. I'm not gay I am straight but my family is very similar. Except they don't believe being gay is a disease rather they believe it's a choice that someone makes. They also believe if you act on it that's worse because you might even go to hell. So yes stuff like this does happen pretty often.
I like in the opening that we don't see the nurse's face. It really makes it more cold and clinical. No smiles, no false assurance. It makes Kurt and Karofsky have such a strong moment.
This is why I love Kurt. Not only does that Kurt has a heart of gold, he sees the good in other people. Even though, I hated David because he treated Kurt like shit, sexually assaulted Kurt, also threatened to kill him, I was very horrified by seeing him nearly hanging himself and absolutely appalled by those guys spray painting his locker. Kurt's one of those people who's like an angel. To me, Kurt is a person who sees other people in a different light, no matter what they say to him or treat him. I mean, he was willing to give David a second chance when he returned. That's why I love Kurt, he's such a sweet boy. Chris Colfer is an awesome actor.
I can't tell you how amazed i am since David has put Kurt through so much pain and fear yet Kurt chose to spare him and forgave him. Tbh i would never have the guts to do that since i'd probably be the cause of their doom if i witnessed those types of experiences. Kurt is the definition of a true pacifist and a soul of true strength.
My gosh, this hits home. I’m a Mormon, and I support my church, but being cruel to those that are different, that’s so sad. If my kid told me they were gay, all I would tell them is that I love them, because that’s what’s important.
This. This is the most important thing that everyone should know, no matter what their beliefs. Love each other for who they are. No matter the color of their skin, the country of their origin, or who they love, Love all, and you shall receive that love in return.
Alex Larson I agree with you, I’m a Christian and I absolutely hate when people make fun of and harass people who are different! People say they make fun of LGBT+ because the Bible is against it, but that doesn’t give people the right to hurt others for their differences. No matter what your religion is, hurting others who don’t agree with you is wrong and I’m glad I am not the only one who sees things this way
Right now is the future and right now is right now. It was the perfect line to insert in the script at that moment, and the timing of Chris and Max is equally perfect. Overwhelming. In addition, in that imagination sequence, Karofsky puts himself completely in Kurt's hands. "Can I be a sports agent?" I suppose Kurt could say, "No, you're a lawyer, like I said." We can sit here and think, "This is a mental exercise Kurt is putting you through. You can be a dentist, an architect or a zipper company CEO," but for David, it is no mere exercise. It's completely serious and essential that it reflects the absolute truth at that moment. So thoughtfully written.
Kurt is the kindest human being in the world. He still deeply cares and forgives Karofsky even though he harassed him BADLY. Colfer and Adler’s acting here in this scene deserves a lot of awards.
I respect Kurt for being so supportive towards Karofsky even though he bullied Kurt in earlier seasons. This just proves that Kurt is one of the best characters in Glee!
@@AquaJulieMarinein this scene he said his mom said being gay was “a disease” I don’t really think they cared that much. Also if you’re distraught that your kid tried to kill themself, you’d be in that room.
@@AshtonGarlandI feel like the intention mention of his mom but not his dad means that his mom is the parent who isn’t comforting him or trying to be there. His dad more than likely is dealing with the fallout, probably demanding answers from the school or dealing with his wife, which is why he isn’t included in the scene. The dad knew something was up with David when he first got expelled for bullying and didn’t seem to be anti-gay, just older and coming to terms with his faults when he’s younger so I doubt he wasn’t there to support Dave.
Yeah... you see he didn't have it easy either.. his parents were homophobic (his mom more tho), the entire football team was a group of homophobic assholes (except for Puck and Finn who changed later on).. actually all sport teams on McKinley were just homophobic assholes. He probably didn't see any other option than become one too. He was gay surrounded by extreme homophobes.
Kurt helping David imagining his future is literally the sweetest thing, the worst thing about depression and bullying is you think it wont ever end, kurt helping david to see there was such a bright future ahead of him and he just had to stick around to get there was one of the best things kurt couldve done for him in that moment
This was such a missed opportunity for David's character in Glee. While it was a heartfelt and emotional moment, it was Ryan Murphy's way of saying "There. I made one of the disliked characters nearly die, gain a minor sympathy, and since Kurt is going to visit him and talk we will never have to see or use him again." David was the reason Kurt and Blaine met to begin with, and while the Klaine fandom would rather eat arsenic than see a possible Kurtofsky storyline, Ryan could have had David in episodes where Kurt ACTUALLY HELPED HIM. This scene was all talk and no payoff. No helping David reinvent himself. No David learning LGBT history. No David singing, or dancing, or trying to figure what he even likes (because not all gay men are bowtie wearing, skinny jeans rocking, tenor clones). Instead Ryan just used him as a drama device for season 6 to get Klainers pissed off again, and since it was easier to bring back a character than make a new one for Blaine to date.
Honestly, yeah. I feel like kurtofsky made more sense had they've developed. If Dave did all that you've mentioned above with Kurt there would be so much potential and chemistry. Would've been better than Klaine (although I love Klaine). Plus I think Ryan knew that too but didn't want to loose viewers who were watching it for Klaine so. And I'm honestly pissed and confused with the whole Blaine and Dave thing.
What really made me mad was that after his suicide attempt, Dave didn't come back to McKinley. I wanted to see Kurt supporting Dave through his recovery, I wanted Dave to join the Glee club (Max Adler can sing!), Kurt balancing that line of friend/support system/and Dave's crush. Maybe another scene of Dave confessing again later on and Kurt turning him down because he thinks that Dave only likes him because he's helping him recover and he doesn't want to take advantage of Dave while he's still vulnerable and, he's still with Blaine. Dave and Kurt overcoming that pain to build their friendship and grow even closer. How ironic would it have been for Kurt to push Dave into applying for colleges out of state and planning for his future so he doesn't end up a Lima loser only to be rejected from his only choice, forced to stay in Lima, while Dave got accepted to a college in New York and is leaving like Rachel. Kurt moving to New York and reconnecting with Dave. Finally starting to develop a feeling for Dave, but not going to do anything about it because he's in a long distance relationship with Blaine. Then after Blaine cheats/Klaine breaks up, Dave comforts Kurt, Kurt kisses him then apologizes claiming it to be a mistake. More friendship that might lead to something else... until Dave overhears Kurt telling Blaine he loves him on the phone at Thanksgiving. (Imagine Dave at Kurt and Rachel's orphan Thanksgiving because he doesn't want to face his homophobic mother.) Dave is asked out by a guy from his school and has his first date as an out gay man with help from Kurt and a visiting Santanna and Kurt asks out Adam. Kurt rejects Rachel's offer to return to Ohio, Dave invites him to come to Christmas party his friends are having, Kurt turns him down, so Dave hangs out with him and they share a sweet moment in how far they've come, that is interrupted by Burt coming. Dave lets them have privacy and goes to his Christmas party alone. Burt reveals his cancer and advises Kurt to hold the people he loves close to him, no matter what. (People thinking it's a Kurtosky hint) Kurt on the phone with Dave when he goes to the address his Dad gave. Kurt saying "Blaine?" and then hanging up in surprise. A shot of Dave waving off some guy at his party and staring at his phone during the Have your a Merry little Christmas song. Klaine engagement and a scene of Dave trying to warn Kurt that it's a bad idea to go from Not Dating to engaged, but Kurt ignores his advice and they stay friends. Maybe Dave gets his first real boyfriend. Then after Kurt calls off his engagement to Blaine in season 6 it goes from Friendship/support/natural progression to a relationship between Dave and Kurt. Even if it hadn't worked out, I still would have loved to know how it would have been. Instead, when Dave shows up later in the show, it feels like they just skipped all the interesting stuff (Dave's recovery, his issue with his mom, learning how to date when you don't look/act like the stereotypical gay man) and just went right to Dave being well adjusted and in a relationship with Blaine with a whole lot of people he slept with. (That restaurant scene with Sue made me uncomfortable.)
Tamera Farly Omg. I would so watch it. I was hoping they would end up together, and Kurt ended up being the guy in Dave's future fantasy, he was imagining in this scene.
I think this scene is amazing. The acting is incredible. They could of expanded on this so much. I’m a true Klaine shipper. Love them. But these two could of been friends more. Kurt was so strong and forgiving! His heart was pure and always seen the best in ppl. No wonder Dave fell for Kurt. Just like Blaine did. He was a diva but he was humble and sweet. Blaine and Dave dated because they had the mutual feeling that they were both in love with him.
When Kurt says 'it's okay' he sounds so gentle and kind and forgiving even though Dave had been treating him badly. Kurt is like a friend who is good at advice and is always as truthful as possible. He is so sweet and my favorite character. Kurt is a wonderful character who is kind to those even after they hurt him. He is so gentle and kind.
This is why Kurt is my favourite character. An individual who can separate his own experiences of bullying and torment to help others. Such a fully formed talented individual
Chris Colfer made Kurt such a beautiful character and a good role model to me when I was growing up. I've read every single one of his books and I'm just so happy hes here
In this scene Kurt actually looks like a really angelic porcelain doll with the most delicate androgynous features I've ever seen. Sue Sylvester really has a way with nicknames.
I'm a Christian but love is what God taught us more than anything so love all of this was my kid I would still support my beliefs but love my kid anyways
I’m so glad other Christians see things this way! It seems like today so many people use religion as a reason to harass people who have different beliefs and it’s so sad that people do these type of things to people because that is _not_ what the Bible calls Christians to do and it gives us a bad lighting. How are they supposed to spread the love of God and convert others if all the Christians are harassing people who do not believe the same things as us and making them feel bad?
What an amazing journey this relationship was. Kurt is an absolute angel. After all Karofsky did to him, he still saw how badly he felt for that! Even though I think Blaine dating Karofsky was wrong, I’m glad he did come around and became a much nicer and more confident person. And a big part of that was Kurt’s support
Kurt is probably the best person on earth and his actor too I bet it's so adorable how he even cares for someone that bullied him and harassed him it's just adorable
We all need a Kurt in our lives. This guy tormented him for a LONG time and even threatened to kill him, but Kurt isn't holding a grudge. He didn't even want to out Dave when he had plenty of chances to. Kurt is a good person. I'm glad they redeemed Dave as well, making him into a more likable person. Though I still don't get why Blaine would want to date the person who bullied his soulmate, even if like I said he changed.
I remember when I was bullied by this one kid. his name was Jeremiah. he was a bully to me from 3rd to middle school. he would push me and in elementary school, he was teasing my friend George. I told him to stop and he back handed me across the head. he even head butted me in the stomach once. I never saw him after middle school because I moved. Then we moved back to Eisenhower High and I saw him. I couldn't believe it. he was older now and he recognized me but like me, he wanted to be sure. I wanted to be sure and when I saw it was him, I couldn't believe it. we talked for awhile and I told him I forgave him all those years ago. I don't hold grudges. never. he was happy and so was I. and he was with my best friend so we were cool. we became good friends and when I left for home, I felt so light. like weight had been lifted. so I can relate to Kurt in some way. and this happening.
When David tells Kurt his mom thinks he has a disease kills me every time I legit say “you don’t have a disease David your perfect” while balling my eyes out
It’s been breaking my heart ever since I first saw season 6 that the writers had made Karofsky such a good person and him and Kurt into great friends despite everything Karofsky did to him, and then they almost made him out to be the bad guy again by putting him and Blaine together in season 6. Why couldn’t they have let Kurt and Karofsky be together and made up a new character for Blaine to date when they were broken up in season 6 or preferably I would have wanted Kurt and Blaine to have taken some time apart (not broken up that is) from each other and Karofsky to have come back and been Kurt’s friend and given him the strength like Kurt did for him in this scene to go and confess to Blaine how much he loved him and then they would have gotten married.
As someone who has tried suicide this scene hits me hard. 1982 I didn't have a Kurt to help me through. Love his character. Would love to see a 25 yr class reunion and Karofsky is there with his husband and they talk about the kids they adopted and raised.
I'm just now realizing it but kurt's "think of one thing you're looking forward to" question got me through some really difficult years and I think it honestly still helps me.
This was probably my second favorite moment in Glee. Even with all the shows faults, at the time, man, did I need the portrayals of hope characters like Kurt and Karofsky brought. Especially in human moments like this.
This scene, the Cough Syrup scene, and every scene where Kurt respects karofsky’s secret even when he did all of those things to him, because he understood it was out of fear, make me cry so so much out of so much hurt for Dave and love for Kurt. “I’m happy you’re alive” “I am too” breaks me in ways I can’t explain.
what i love about this scene is Kurt's empathy and compassion towards David. Glee tackled some very tough issues that young people face and did it in a great way!
The biggest disservice Glee ever did to Dave and Kurt as characters was not finding a place for their storyline to continue into the friendship they promised one another. There didn't need to be a relationship or even the weird thing where they had Dave dating Blaine in Season 6. Kurt and Dave could have just been friends. Instead, they just dropped Dave's storyline after this until Season 6 and it really drove me crazy.
Kurt is the sweetest person ever he is kind and helpful to a person how torture him every single day, i don’t think I could ever do that he is the the type of friends that I want to have in my life.
This scene saved me from something that couldn’t be reversible. I was just like him and so upset but this scene. It stuck with me.its been 4 years since I saw this. I’m in a totally better place now. I’m happy, I found someone to love, I learned to accept myself and to live life with no regrets. Thank you Kurt, for saving me❤️
I believe in Kurt because he really cares so much about his dad and friends even what he’s been through he opened his heart to another person who been hard on him. It has stopped I can’t believe my eyes
Korofsky was low key one of the best characters on the show period. I loved him so much. His story and character growth was amazing and he deserved more then being a background character. I wanted him to join the new Directions so bad. And the actor who played him Max Adler is actually a singer. He is such a good actor and could have done so much more but he the parts that they gave him he did an amazing job with it.
I love how Glee dealt with serious subjects that most adults don't even want to talk about.
Jennifer Elizabeth Edwards Amen because I go through this stuff
Jennifer Elizabeth Edwards dealt with it well HALF of the time, a lot of it was very hit and miss
These days we talk about nothing else.
If they wanted to be cutting edge, talk about Christians who have come out of the gay lifestyle. You would never see a story like that because Hollywood is full of cowards.
David Messer lol oh no, poor Christians, being persecuted, spit on, beaten up, fired from their jobs for being in love. Oh wait, that never happened!
prismatism
It happens every day.
You are willfully blind if you don’t see it.
my favourite line in here is Kurt’s “I’m really happy you’re alive, David”. He’s showing the most genuine form of forgiveness and I think he refers to Karofsky by his first name because he’s finally human to Kurt. He’s not just a bully anymore, he feels pain too and they always called him Karofsky because in a way it dehumanises him. But for Kurt to be happy that David is alive... that shows some real humility.
Ya and then blaine and david date and he probably wants him dead again
@@ainsleyflower304 unfair, he isnt a horrible person
@@ainsleyflower304 I’m not happy they’re dating because yes he did terrible things in the past and that will never change. I try to remember that here is and was truly sorry and made it known, and Kurt forgave him. He was the one who went through it all with him so if he can forgive him, we should at least try. Doesn’t mean we have to be happy about them dating
Yes. I wish my bullies could feel this compassion for me too, as I feel it for them.
Forgiveness is important. Without it, you only hold grudges. Hate begets hate. If you really want love, you show love to those who never have shown it to you. It's the only way to break the cycle. To continue a belief of hating someone for their past without seeing reason or understanding, causes that person to become truly evil and fall even deeper into their abyss of hate. Yelling at someone for things they did without seeing changes they made is wrong. That's the problem with this day and age. It's not accountability, is the ability to be forgiven and have their transgressions forgotten. You can't expect people to wear their families ashes like they're fuckin Kratos.
Kurt is an angel....He literally is an angel.....
Amaretto Punsch right
He’s a flawed human being
@@MadddyDawg50 nope, definitely an angel
Wode god isn’t real
@@kmwilliams97 neither are angels. It's a figure of speech. Keep up...
kurt is so SWEET he's being so nice to the person who harassed him. i could never do that
well the thing is...Karofsky wasn't just a bully, he had a deep seeded issue that Kurt had too. It's a very valid reason for his behavior. Not an excuse but a reason, so I think it's a little easier to move forward with someone, when you both feel that deep connection.
yeah i understand it. it still is incredibly nice tho
orchus I did for one person in high school and elementary school we barley talked but we have forgave each other
same.
Yes, you could. Everyone can.
The young man that played David in this story line really should have had an Emmy for his work.
I agree
Agreed 100%!
Max Adler did a great job playing both the bully Korofsky and the tortured David. -- He was way too mature looking to play a high schooler but that doesn't take away from his skill as an actor. I hope he's still out there working.
He’s at least been able to work a good amount since then
@@ML-xh6rd Yep Max Adler is still working according to his Wikipedia page
The Suicide episode was handled very well by the writers and actors. Darren Criss's song "Cough Syrup" was perfect; it still haunts me of Max Adler's character attempting suicide.
Cough Syru is by a band called Young the Giant
Haunts you? I came out as bi at this "end of grade 8" party somebody was throwing to test the waters bc im really just gay. They were fine with it. I saw this episode during the summer right before high school. When I tell you I RAN into that closet so fast; Jesus came to me and asked me how anything could happen so quickly. he just never seen anything so fast. JK bc I already told too many people about being bi so catholic high school grade 9 and 10 were fun.
Cough Syrup isn’t Darren’s original song btw
“Can I be a sports agent?”
Kurt opens his eyes and smiles.
That part hits me. He finally knows a little more about David and he wants in life. He wasn’t some jock asshole closeted and following the pack. He actually loves sports and dreams of being in them. I know I might be thinking to much, but why would they put that in if I wasn’t supposed to be moved by it?
Anthony Ramirez
Episode filler
The first comment made me sad. The second made me laugh.
Many bullies are that way because they suffered abuse and ridicule themselves and they think they're only protecting themselves from getting hurt again.
It's sad.
I hate that stupid dave + blaine storyline it made no sense
Yeah it is actually really moving. Not only because Kurt learned more of who he was as a person but because the fact that he was talking about what he wanted to do in the future proved to Kurt that he was thinking about about having a future and that gave Kurt hope after he'd just attempted to end his life. Definitely a beautiful moment.
I respect Kurt so much for doing this. I mean come on, this took GUTS! Kurt is such a good person 💕. Even behind that, Chris is such a good actor in this scene. Fantastic! 💕
Emily_TheReader Couldn't agree more
I know right I can’t 😭
Exactly.
Kurt has the strongest character in the entire series
It’s especially fantastic as the character was written into the show because they loved Chris’ audition so much. He’s the best actor to become famous due to the show.
"there gonna be some days where life just sucks" couldn't agree more with that.
I totally agree life hands you up's and down's and you have to take the good with the bad but in this one episode I am not a fan of David's MOM who tells their ONLY SON YOU HAVE A DISEASE AND YOU NEED TO BE CURED I mean come on as if his former best friend's and class mates teasing him relentlessly over this wasn't BAD ENOUGH no apparently NOT he has to get it at home also SERIOUSLY she's his MOTHER for crying out loud she's supposed to protect him and love him no matter what not allinate him like e everyone else is doing
@@nerdygeekgamer5528 Hate to say it but this stuff happens more then you think. I'm not gay I am straight but my family is very similar. Except they don't believe being gay is a disease rather they believe it's a choice that someone makes. They also believe if you act on it that's worse because you might even go to hell. So yes stuff like this does happen pretty often.
It's even more true these days
I like in the opening that we don't see the nurse's face. It really makes it more cold and clinical. No smiles, no false assurance. It makes Kurt and Karofsky have such a strong moment.
Don't white coats mean doctor?
This is why I love Kurt. Not only does that Kurt has a heart of gold, he sees the good in other people. Even though, I hated David because he treated Kurt like shit, sexually assaulted Kurt, also threatened to kill him, I was very horrified by seeing him nearly hanging himself and absolutely appalled by those guys spray painting his locker. Kurt's one of those people who's like an angel. To me, Kurt is a person who sees other people in a different light, no matter what they say to him or treat him. I mean, he was willing to give David a second chance when he returned. That's why I love Kurt, he's such a sweet boy. Chris Colfer is an awesome actor.
I can't tell you how amazed i am since David has put Kurt through so much pain and fear yet Kurt chose to spare him and forgave him. Tbh i would never have the guts to do that since i'd probably be the cause of their doom if i witnessed those types of experiences. Kurt is the definition of a true pacifist and a soul of true strength.
‘I’m so happy right now’ omg that got me :,) in tears
S Darke Me, too!💗
My gosh, this hits home. I’m a Mormon, and I support my church, but being cruel to those that are different, that’s so sad. If my kid told me they were gay, all I would tell them is that I love them, because that’s what’s important.
that is the most important and ur one of the very few who see's that, u have my respect
You give me hope for humanity :)
This. This is the most important thing that everyone should know, no matter what their beliefs. Love each other for who they are. No matter the color of their skin, the country of their origin, or who they love,
Love all, and you shall receive that love in return.
Alex Larson
I agree with you, I’m a Christian and I absolutely hate when people make fun of and harass people who are different! People say they make fun of LGBT+ because the Bible is against it, but that doesn’t give people the right to hurt others for their differences. No matter what your religion is, hurting others who don’t agree with you is wrong and I’m glad I am not the only one who sees things this way
MORMON LOOL😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
The emotion in Daves "I'm so happy right now" made me cry. He can finally see a future where he fully accepts himself and has everything that he wants
Right now is the future and right now is right now. It was the perfect line to insert in the script at that moment, and the timing of Chris and Max is equally perfect. Overwhelming.
In addition, in that imagination sequence, Karofsky puts himself completely in Kurt's hands. "Can I be a sports agent?" I suppose Kurt could say, "No, you're a lawyer, like I said." We can sit here and think, "This is a mental exercise Kurt is putting you through. You can be a dentist, an architect or a zipper company CEO," but for David, it is no mere exercise. It's completely serious and essential that it reflects the absolute truth at that moment. So thoughtfully written.
Kurt is the kindest human being in the world. He still deeply cares and forgives Karofsky even though he harassed him BADLY. Colfer and Adler’s acting here in this scene deserves a lot of awards.
the true pacifist
I respect Kurt for being so supportive towards Karofsky even though he bullied Kurt in earlier seasons. This just proves that Kurt is one of the best characters in Glee!
“I’m so happy right now”. I started crying wow
I want to hug those two
Peridot Leader of the Crystal Gems iio
I just love the way karofsky looks at him. Kurt is his hero
It hurts me that David's parents never came over to comfort him.
3 years late, but maybe they were still distraught over their son nearly committing suicide.
@@AquaJulieMarine huh maybe, shitt I need to watch glee again
@@AquaJulieMarinein this scene he said his mom said being gay was “a disease” I don’t really think they cared that much.
Also if you’re distraught that your kid tried to kill themself, you’d be in that room.
@@AquaJulieMarine
"3 years late but"
TH-cam 👏 is 👏 not 👏 Reddit
@@AshtonGarlandI feel like the intention mention of his mom but not his dad means that his mom is the parent who isn’t comforting him or trying to be there. His dad more than likely is dealing with the fallout, probably demanding answers from the school or dealing with his wife, which is why he isn’t included in the scene. The dad knew something was up with David when he first got expelled for bullying and didn’t seem to be anti-gay, just older and coming to terms with his faults when he’s younger so I doubt he wasn’t there to support Dave.
I started to love Karofsky after this because you realize inside he really is sweet.
Yeah... you see he didn't have it easy either.. his parents were homophobic (his mom more tho), the entire football team was a group of homophobic assholes (except for Puck and Finn who changed later on).. actually all sport teams on McKinley were just homophobic assholes. He probably didn't see any other option than become one too. He was gay surrounded by extreme homophobes.
Hes a big teddy bear. Just was lost in the closet and couldn't accept his true feelings. 😊
Kurt helping David imagining his future is literally the sweetest thing, the worst thing about depression and bullying is you think it wont ever end, kurt helping david to see there was such a bright future ahead of him and he just had to stick around to get there was one of the best things kurt couldve done for him in that moment
The amount of times I cried during this show is insane. I honestly would have loved to see more of Karofsky's and Kurt's friendship.
This is the most powerful scene Glee ever produced
Awwwww Kurt you such a sweet guy!
I freaking love this scene! Kurt is such a cutie pie in this scene 💕
Emilia :D he is still gay but couldn't agree more
I love this scene it shows how mature and caring Kurt is and how forgiving people can be to those who have hurt them in the past. So Heartwarming
This was such a missed opportunity for David's character in Glee. While it was a heartfelt and emotional moment, it was Ryan Murphy's way of saying "There. I made one of the disliked characters nearly die, gain a minor sympathy, and since Kurt is going to visit him and talk we will never have to see or use him again." David was the reason Kurt and Blaine met to begin with, and while the Klaine fandom would rather eat arsenic than see a possible Kurtofsky storyline, Ryan could have had David in episodes where Kurt ACTUALLY HELPED HIM. This scene was all talk and no payoff. No helping David reinvent himself. No David learning LGBT history. No David singing, or dancing, or trying to figure what he even likes (because not all gay men are bowtie wearing, skinny jeans rocking, tenor clones). Instead Ryan just used him as a drama device for season 6 to get Klainers pissed off again, and since it was easier to bring back a character than make a new one for Blaine to date.
Blast22 You are so right...
Honestly, yeah. I feel like kurtofsky made more sense had they've developed. If Dave did all that you've mentioned above with Kurt there would be so much potential and chemistry. Would've been better than Klaine (although I love Klaine). Plus I think Ryan knew that too but didn't want to loose viewers who were watching it for Klaine so. And I'm honestly pissed and confused with the whole Blaine and Dave thing.
What really made me mad was that after his suicide attempt, Dave didn't come back to McKinley. I wanted to see Kurt supporting Dave through his recovery, I wanted Dave to join the Glee club (Max Adler can sing!), Kurt balancing that line of friend/support system/and Dave's crush. Maybe another scene of Dave confessing again later on and Kurt turning him down because he thinks that Dave only likes him because he's helping him recover and he doesn't want to take advantage of Dave while he's still vulnerable and, he's still with Blaine.
Dave and Kurt overcoming that pain to build their friendship and grow even closer.
How ironic would it have been for Kurt to push Dave into applying for colleges out of state and planning for his future so he doesn't end up a Lima loser only to be rejected from his only choice, forced to stay in Lima, while Dave got accepted to a college in New York and is leaving like Rachel.
Kurt moving to New York and reconnecting with Dave. Finally starting to develop a feeling for Dave, but not going to do anything about it because he's in a long distance relationship with Blaine.
Then after Blaine cheats/Klaine breaks up, Dave comforts Kurt, Kurt kisses him then apologizes claiming it to be a mistake.
More friendship that might lead to something else... until Dave overhears Kurt telling Blaine he loves him on the phone at Thanksgiving. (Imagine Dave at Kurt and Rachel's orphan Thanksgiving because he doesn't want to face his homophobic mother.)
Dave is asked out by a guy from his school and has his first date as an out gay man with help from Kurt and a visiting Santanna and Kurt asks out Adam.
Kurt rejects Rachel's offer to return to Ohio, Dave invites him to come to Christmas party his friends are having, Kurt turns him down, so Dave hangs out with him and they share a sweet moment in how far they've come, that is interrupted by Burt coming.
Dave lets them have privacy and goes to his Christmas party alone. Burt reveals his cancer and advises Kurt to hold the people he loves close to him, no matter what. (People thinking it's a Kurtosky hint)
Kurt on the phone with Dave when he goes to the address his Dad gave. Kurt saying "Blaine?" and then hanging up in surprise. A shot of Dave waving off some guy at his party and staring at his phone during the Have your a Merry little Christmas song.
Klaine engagement and a scene of Dave trying to warn Kurt that it's a bad idea to go from Not Dating to engaged, but Kurt ignores his advice and they stay friends.
Maybe Dave gets his first real boyfriend.
Then after Kurt calls off his engagement to Blaine in season 6 it goes from Friendship/support/natural progression to a relationship between Dave and Kurt.
Even if it hadn't worked out, I still would have loved to know how it would have been.
Instead, when Dave shows up later in the show, it feels like they just skipped all the interesting stuff (Dave's recovery, his issue with his mom, learning how to date when you don't look/act like the stereotypical gay man) and just went right to Dave being well adjusted and in a relationship with Blaine with a whole lot of people he slept with. (That restaurant scene with Sue made me uncomfortable.)
Tamera Farly Omg. I would so watch it. I was hoping they would end up together, and Kurt ended up being the guy in Dave's future fantasy, he was imagining in this scene.
Alexas Bryan That would have been perfect!
"I'm really happy that you're alive, David." - not something that was said to me when I was in Davids position.
Well I know it maybe too late but I’m really happy that you’re alive
I'm really happy you're alive :)
IM HAPPY YOU’RE ALIVE
I'm really happy that you're alive
I'm so sorry no one that really knows you said it to but, I'm really happy you're alive!
I think this scene is amazing. The acting is incredible. They could of expanded on this so much. I’m a true Klaine shipper. Love them. But these two could of been friends more. Kurt was so strong and forgiving! His heart was pure and always seen the best in ppl. No wonder Dave fell for Kurt. Just like Blaine did. He was a diva but he was humble and sweet. Blaine and Dave dated because they had the mutual feeling that they were both in love with him.
That was a horrible Storyline, thank god, it was just for a couple Episodes
I think they may have mentioned them when sue said a quarter back became best friend with the gay kid or they could be talking about finn
Kurt is literally the most forgiving person on the planet
Kurt is the best character in Glee because he can forgive and help someone who hurt him.
Karofky's story makes me cry cause I've been put on a 72 hour hold
Gengar Crobat I'm glad that you're alive
Gengar Crobat I don't know you but you are loved and you are needed I hope you have recovered from this but just know it can get better
I hope this year will be better for you
same here :’(
God bless you. Hope you're doing better. Xxx
Now that acting right there, from both of these guys!! Very powerful and moving!
Kurt seriously sounds like my grandma I love it
When Kurt says 'it's okay' he sounds so gentle and kind and forgiving even though Dave had been treating him badly. Kurt is like a friend who is good at advice and is always as truthful as possible. He is so sweet and my favorite character. Kurt is a wonderful character who is kind to those even after they hurt him. He is so gentle and kind.
agreed
This is why Kurt is my favourite character. An individual who can separate his own experiences of bullying and torment to help others. Such a fully formed talented individual
Kurt has a strong sense of compassion & forgiveness.
Kurt is so sweet I love him he is a good actor especially in this scene
kurt is such a kind soul💛
Acting at its finest, both Chris and Max!
i wish he just accepted himself and joined glee:(
Chris Colfer made Kurt such a beautiful character and a good role model to me when I was growing up. I've read every single one of his books and I'm just so happy hes here
In this scene Kurt actually looks like a really angelic porcelain doll with the most delicate androgynous features I've ever seen.
Sue Sylvester really has a way with nicknames.
I think the role of Dave Karofsky ,was the heaviest of all Glee. ( suicide ) .
Max Adler a great Actor .
Kurt is so forgiving towards Karofsky it hurts
Kurt is an Angel from heaven! I love him😇💟🌟
even after all these years this scene is truly heart breaking
I love this scene chris and max did such amazing job in this scene so beautiful and powerful I cried during this scene my heart broke for both of them
Karofsky turned out to be a big teddy bear!
I honestly with they gave David more airtime after this episode. I wanted to see his character development and see his ups and downs
Kurt Hummel is the sweetest, most genuine person on Glee
I'm a Christian but love is what God taught us more than anything so love all of this was my kid I would still support my beliefs but love my kid anyways
Rachel Hanks thank you, i respect you so much for this
I’m so glad other Christians see things this way! It seems like today so many people use religion as a reason to harass people who have different beliefs and it’s so sad that people do these type of things to people because that is _not_ what the Bible calls Christians to do and it gives us a bad lighting. How are they supposed to spread the love of God and convert others if all the Christians are harassing people who do not believe the same things as us and making them feel bad?
Rachel Hanks I can’t get my parents to see it like this. It’s exactly how I feel.
God loves u as u are
What an amazing journey this relationship was. Kurt is an absolute angel. After all Karofsky did to him, he still saw how badly he felt for that! Even though I think Blaine dating Karofsky was wrong, I’m glad he did come around and became a much nicer and more confident person. And a big part of that was Kurt’s support
Kurt is probably the best person on earth and his actor too I bet it's so adorable how he even cares for someone that bullied him and harassed him it's just adorable
I respect that David was being nice to Kurt but he apologized to him for treating him badly, and bullied him. But they are officially friends.
Man he needs his own show! I'd watch sports agent/w his partner
I would watch it too such amazing actors
Ramadan Bekirov and his best friend Kurt dropping in once in a,while w/ hubby Blaine and daughter
ew no I hate the klaine I always prefered kurtofsky
Ramadan Bekirov Kurt and Blaine belong together/they could a spin off w the kids falling in love
And this is one of the many reasons Kurt is my favourite character
We all need a Kurt in our lives. This guy tormented him for a LONG time and even threatened to kill him, but Kurt isn't holding a grudge. He didn't even want to out Dave when he had plenty of chances to. Kurt is a good person. I'm glad they redeemed Dave as well, making him into a more likable person. Though I still don't get why Blaine would want to date the person who bullied his soulmate, even if like I said he changed.
Kurt is so so so sweet, Dave was so bad with him... and he just help him, a thing what I'll never do with the person who hurts me
For me, this is one of the best and most emotional scenes in glee, I really feel touched by it everytime I see it
I remember when I was bullied by this one kid. his name was Jeremiah. he was a bully to me from 3rd to middle school. he would push me and in elementary school, he was teasing my friend George. I told him to stop and he back handed me across the head. he even head butted me in the stomach once. I never saw him after middle school because I moved. Then we moved back to Eisenhower High and I saw him. I couldn't believe it. he was older now and he recognized me but like me, he wanted to be sure. I wanted to be sure and when I saw it was him, I couldn't believe it. we talked for awhile and I told him I forgave him all those years ago. I don't hold grudges. never. he was happy and so was I. and he was with my best friend so we were cool. we became good friends and when I left for home, I felt so light. like weight had been lifted. so I can relate to Kurt in some way. and this happening.
When David tells Kurt his mom thinks he has a disease kills me every time I legit say “you don’t have a disease David your perfect” while balling my eyes out
It’s been breaking my heart ever since I first saw season 6 that the writers had made Karofsky such a good person and him and Kurt into great friends despite everything Karofsky did to him, and then they almost made him out to be the bad guy again by putting him and Blaine together in season 6.
Why couldn’t they have let Kurt and Karofsky be together and made up a new character for Blaine to date when they were broken up in season 6 or preferably I would have wanted Kurt and Blaine to have taken some time apart (not broken up that is) from each other and Karofsky to have come back and been Kurt’s friend and given him the strength like Kurt did for him in this scene to go and confess to Blaine how much he loved him and then they would have gotten married.
This is the beauty of FANFICTION!
I think he would've been seen as a bad Idea by Kurt's friends and family and Sue would put her two cent in and break them up
Id prefer that as well. Id love to see kurt and dave togetherp
I cry literally every time Kurt talks!😅😭 His voice is just so sweet and soft! It's so beautiful! Even when he's not singing😭
Why the hell were there no Emmy noms for this
Now I understand why he dated Blaine in season 6
I guess it was because he changed and was settling for the closest to his "dream" guy
God, that was a horrible stotyline, thank god it was just for a couple episodes
These scenes were so heartbreaking. Especially where Blaine was singing cough syrup
As someone who has tried suicide this scene hits me hard. 1982 I didn't have a Kurt to help me through. Love his character. Would love to see a 25 yr class reunion and Karofsky is there with his husband and they talk about the kids they adopted and raised.
Damn, is incredible how amazing was glee in its first three seasons.
I need a Friend like Kurt in my life, he makes everyone feel great about themselves, even if they've been awful to him...
Kurt is a freaking saint!!
Such a heartbreaking scene!
Kurt is an angel!😇❤❤❤
I love kurt honestly what a brave person
This show could be silly and weird but when it shined it SHINED
Dave had the best character development, and Kurt is the most forgiving character.
I'm just now realizing it but kurt's "think of one thing you're looking forward to" question got me through some really difficult years and I think it honestly still helps me.
The last person who deserved kindness from kurt was david yet when this happend he was the first person to show him real kindness says a lot
Kurt understands what he's going through cause he's gay himself, that's why he shows him so much kindness, even after Dave terrified him for months.
Im not crying you are!
He’s a good lad that kurt
One of my fav scenes on glee 😍😍😍
Probably the first real friend he had. This was an awesome episode. That one and when Kurt and Finn become 'brothers' was another happy one.
This scene made me cry
Such a big part of me wishes they would have ended up together, it would have changed so many story lines in so many ways
Kurt is such a sweetheart! It would take a lot of guts to do that.
What a beautiful scene. Still makes me cry like a baby even after all these years.
This was probably my second favorite moment in Glee. Even with all the shows faults, at the time, man, did I need the portrayals of hope characters like Kurt and Karofsky brought. Especially in human moments like this.
"cause i'm going to help you...and so is everybody else who loves and accepts you for who you are" Kurt will always be my favorite character.
This scene, the Cough Syrup scene, and every scene where Kurt respects karofsky’s secret even when he did all of those things to him, because he understood it was out of fear, make me cry so so much out of so much hurt for Dave and love for Kurt. “I’m happy you’re alive” “I am too” breaks me in ways I can’t explain.
I've never been a fan of Glee, but this made me cry. I've been there. There's nothing worse than feeling like you're alone.
what i love about this scene is Kurt's empathy and compassion towards David. Glee tackled some very tough issues that young people face and did it in a great way!
The biggest disservice Glee ever did to Dave and Kurt as characters was not finding a place for their storyline to continue into the friendship they promised one another. There didn't need to be a relationship or even the weird thing where they had Dave dating Blaine in Season 6. Kurt and Dave could have just been friends. Instead, they just dropped Dave's storyline after this until Season 6 and it really drove me crazy.
I love Karofsky!
Kurt is the sweetest person ever he is kind and helpful to a person how torture him every single day, i don’t think I could ever do that he is the the type of friends that I want to have in my life.
This scene saved me from something that couldn’t be reversible. I was just like him and so upset but this scene. It stuck with me.its been 4 years since I saw this. I’m in a totally better place now. I’m happy, I found someone to love, I learned to accept myself and to live life with no regrets. Thank you Kurt, for saving me❤️
The amount of empathy and compassion and forgiveness Kurt has for David never fails to amaze me
Amazing scene. Makes you really feel for both of them .
I believe in Kurt because he really cares so much about his dad and friends even what he’s been through he opened his heart to another person who been hard on him. It has stopped I can’t believe my eyes
Korofsky was low key one of the best characters on the show period. I loved him so much. His story and character growth was amazing and he deserved more then being a background character. I wanted him to join the new Directions so bad. And the actor who played him Max Adler is actually a singer. He is such a good actor and could have done so much more but he the parts that they gave him he did an amazing job with it.