to be fair, you won't see a fight that's on the scale of egghead anywhere else on the new world. a yonko and crew, admiral and gorosei with marine forces all fighting
@@taichou_exei mean really … he’s not just regurgitating what happened in the chapter panel for panel he’s actually adding value and REVIEWING the chapter…
Is it tho? If you want to say realistically she's done barely any damage but u can't deny she did damage. She didn't use her df, maybe she used haki but to get stabbe d by Bonney like that is just a terrible look.
Hey man. I have been watching your reviews since the Naruto days.. and to this moment, you still make chapters ten times better by your excellent reviews. Thanks alot Swayer. Keep up the good work.. always a fan of yours.
The chapter is never complete without Sawyer's review. I feel like the the gap between the tcb scans & official release shouldn't be so long. I check everyday since tcb scans release whether you have uploaded your review or not. I haven't seen a 20 minute long video in a while. No amount of lengthy videos feels long enough when it comes to you. That's the quality to content you give us. Following you since Naruto reviews. You've been a constant ever since.
So here are few points to sum up everything I found so far from different people: 1. Saturn saying „The worlds surface, it‘s been a while“ and „Humans are like insects“ in chapter 1090 really indicates that he‘s not human at all but rather an immortal devil itself. Also supported by Sabo saying that hell is located at top of the world. 2. Considering Saturn having 5 and Mu meaning nothing (0), we could consider Saturn being the weakest and Imu being the strongest. 3. Based on Saturn being an Ushi Oni assigned to fire (see the flame patterns on his body), we could assume that the other Gorosei are based on the following: Peter is Umi Bozu (water), Mars is Ziz (wind), Nusjuro is Nurarihyon (spirit), Warcury is Behemoth (earth). This also fits into Gorosei being based on Archons from Gnosticism. 4. Egghead could be some sort of Sabaody 2.0. Now that Luffy is at his limit but a big threat is right in front of them, they are in need of an external savior. Maybe Kuma (again) since the whole Bonney/Kuma plot is still open and Bonney seems to know smth about Saturn. In addition, the Egghead incident is promised to shock the world, where people say Oda intentionally used the word "shock" to hint at Kumas importantance in this arc. The ancient robot could possibly play a big role in here as well.
@@partyhardcake I'm thinking the old dudes are just avatars that they use to communicate with the outer world and they are actual devils from a different dimensions. It's just a weird line for someone who was just eating a sausage on a ship full of marines
I find it interesting that ppl are open to the gorosei being literal devils and not having a df inspite of saturn's devil fruit swirls on his body, having a black hagoromo scarf like kaku and lucci all cuz of the magic circle entrance(which could be a byproduct of his mythical zoan) and taking his surface comment literally
Fair point to mention, we did get basically "Angel people" in the sky island arc, so it could just be that similar to how the Lunarians, have weird stuff. There might be people from a hell island or something similar.
The amount of research Sawyer does for all his reviews, and how he delivers them to the audience really shows how its is so much different from other OP reviews. Even though you are dealing a lot with life, we appreciate your time doing this Sawyer
The scene of Kizaru telling the Navy grunt he’d take the food to Saturn takes on a whole new meaning now Kizaru: here I’ll do it, don’t want you to lose your head Navy Grunt: oh I wouldn’t panic for something so simple Kizaru…yeah
Yup and its interesting that they were testing for poison in saturn's food when Ushi Onis breath or spit poison, so saturn would be immune to it,that makes him scarier than Meruem
So agree with the elders and imu not being human. Garcia even called luffy nika instead of strawhat meaning they also seem to know joy boy on a personal level. I need that kuma back story so bad now
Robin may not be the main focus of the arc but I think Oda showing us the the aftermath of Ohara is important. Robin is the “demon child” and Ohara id essentially a “nation of the demons” where the “demons of Ohara” hails from (according to the world). Oda and his themes. I like your idea about demons. Maybe Goda is trying to build something on this.
Another thing that really caught my attention was that he referred to Luffy as Nika rather than by his name. It could be that Saturn not only summoned this power, but that the power is actually an entity that possessed Saturn and the entity may know this Nika, or is familiar with him. Saturn and this entity are sharing the body and the entity is being expressed or brought into existence through the same way as the Zoan "devil fruits." As the Gov't stated, Gum Gum fruit almost acted as if it had a will of it's own. This also adds more credence to Blackbeard being possessed by the Yami Yami no mi, or rather - the spirit or will of the Yami Yami no mi, found Blackbeard, and was separated from it's actual powers, and was trying to find it's way back to it's powers by tempting Blackbeard and subverting his will for greatness to achieve it's own agenda. It's speculative at best but I honestly like this explanation.
I agree with this alot except the part about yami yami no mi and blackbeard; because blackbeard was the same way he is now before he ate the yami yami no mi he just hid his true self under white beard until he finally got the DF. Its more fair to say that the fruit and black beard are alike and was attracted to black beard for he is
The Ride, Ride fruit is really good for somone small like Bluegrass, it would be really cool to see a Tontatta use that fruit because of there tiny size.
Egghead is the parallel to Sabaody for many reasons. Elbaf Is next and will be the parallel to amazon lily. A Warrior tribe who values strength. my guess is that luffy will split off with the strawhats (possibly to go with dragon if he arrives on egghead, or if Luffy potentially has to stay behind so that his crew can safely get to elbaf as a parallel to how he couldnt protect his crew at sabaody) I am now convinced that Marie Jois is after Elbaf and will be the parallel to Impel Down. Marie Jois is the highest place on earth, and impel down is the lowest. Impel Down is seemingly hell, but still has a community of positive people (Newkama), while Marie Jois is seemingly heaven, but as Sabo described is, in reality, hell on earth. I believe the Strawhats will have to sneak in in the same way luffy snuck in to Impel Down. Also Luffy didnt even defeat the main villain of Impel Down, Magellan. Could we see a team up between Luffy and Blackbeard to defeat Imu?? And then the final war. No idea where this could take place lol possibly at laugh tale? who knows
I really love your video sawyer. I really do. But can you please make the last music or sound in your video turn down for a quite of volume? Thanks in advance man
I was discussing the topic of the Gorosei's abilities with my brother and I tossed out what if instead of having awakened fruits, the Gorosei have CORRUPTED fruits? Damn is being a One Piece fan good😫
Man I been watching you since I was 15😂 now I’m 24 and still watching here and there you’ve always been the guy I go to after reading one piece ❤ Ty so much sawyer appreciate your dedication and passion for op verse
I've watched some of your other videos too, but this one right here hits the right spot. Just subbed! Hoping for some more interesting and in-depth theories in the future.
It's interesting that Oda decided to use Bonney for the first attack on Saturn. I can see Bonney using her attack to try and take away 100 years off of Saturn's life, just to find out that it doesn't work. The readers finally discover that he's immortal.
I think the key to Blackbeard might be the connection that was made with Uta. It was her devil fruit power that was able to unlock the power of “The Demon King”. Remember when Blackbeard fought Ace? He use a technique “Black Hole” to suck the town into darkness and then use a technique called “Liberation” to expel the town. If the theory of The Gorosei’s (5 Elder Stars/Planets) is correct and their true powers/form was somehow sealed, maybe it was Blackbeards devil fruit that unsealed them. Maybe he can even “seal” and “unseal” them. What if that’s the reason Imu had his picture alongside Luffy, Shirahoshi and Vivi? Because these powers are the ones that pose him the biggest threat of being defeated. And maybe that’s also a key to the events in the Void Century. Maybe the person who betrayed the D Clan somehow gained or stole the power of the darkness fruit and made a deal with Imu to unsealed these demons into the world and that’s how the war was won.
There’s so many themes that have been floating around that are starting to merge and have a clear connection. “Sun” God, Five Elder “Stars/Planets”, a Darkness fruit with the power of “Black Holes”, “Celestial” Dragons, and even the “Void” Century. There’s the people of Wano and their connection to the Moon, I even remember in an another video that you made a connection to Sanji’s previous bounty and the planet Venus. There’s the 3 Ancient Weapons in Pluton, Poseidon & Uranus. And if there’s Devils and Devils fruits, are the people of the Sky Islands Angels? Lol idk man, this story is so beautiful and I can’t wait for all these questions to be answered
If Saturn would have a strong conqueror haki like Shanks then the fodder marines would simply faint and there would be no reason to tell them to avert their gaze
5:10 only i notice that thes something wrong how imu walks the stairs? the candles sugests the stairs going down but we see whole silhouette, we should see only top of head. Some kind of sticky spce wrap fruit powers?
Joyboy creating the devil fruits and actually tasting bad reminds me of luffy cooking LoL, nice catch there. it just makes sense because when luffy awakens he said that he can finally do everything he wants but we know that he would like to do that with his friends too so by making the fruits he gave ppl the chance to do just that. Something coming straight up from imagination
Small theory for the end of egghead, we haven’t seen BB crew yet, a lot of speculation was that Katerina was impersonating somebody mainly Bonney, but I think a better theory could be that after egg head resolves, BB comes in and kidnaps Saturn for his plan to make his kingdom
5:58 the example you give looks like it has cow head in the center of it. The bottom row looks like a different animal... could that be a reference to each of their transformations
... if Imu was the Umi Bozu, does that make the things in the Florian Triangle *something else* I wonder or are they something related to Imu? Genuine question because now the fact that Imu is Umi spelled backwards means more than just 'ocean' to me lmao.
Yeah i mean the pentagram summoning at least to me made it feel pretty obvious, completely off the mark even, that we weren't dealing with another devil fruit. I think we might be getting to the part of the story where those bits of lore start to coalesce into something. Demons, Lunarians(potentially angels), Giants, Sea Bests, and honestly even Dragons. Compared to the technology available and the fact that the majority of the one piece world is like islands, it starts to seem more and more to me that this story is turning into a post apocalyptic world that regressed back to a time where piracy was normal, and potentially because chunks of land have just been wiped out (ancient weapons are kinda proof of that).
I would very much like this theory to be true. Imagine a world at present that is vastly different a thousand years ago would be very intriguing. So much mystery still to uncover from this lore heavy world, you'd love to see it
Film Red had a special edition SBS and in it oda said "Ive set a rule that in the world of One Piece, theres nothing mysterious other than the Devil Fruits. In other words, any phenomenon outside of the devil fruits can logically exist without being strange. So, even tho the Demon King Tottumujika appears in the Uta World, the concept if a 'Demon' King does exist in One Piece." Which tells me that the same theory that vegapunk had for the devil fruit origin is the same cause of the phenomenon of other weird things we see in the one piece world i.e. the mass or group of ppl desired and manifested yokai devil fruits or literal yokai demons. Brook being summoned by long leg cultists might be forshadowing for that. Perhaps 5 of the 20 kingdoms conjured or desired for a power to defeat joyboy or all 19 out of 20 desired a demon king and the nerona monarch inheirited their will
The elder stars may all have mythical zoan devil fruits . Amazing that zoans became the most powerful fruit being that it has both properties of paramacia and logia
@@milessmiles9289 that’s 1000 chapters since he was introduced so I am a believer. I also think Sanji will have his “Nothing Happened” moment here as well. He almost has to if Zoro and Luffy are too exhausted to beat Saturn.
Adding to characters having mixed traits with demons… yea Zoro also is always using Demons for boosts and techniques. So with that being said.. Gol D Rodger as well? Rocks? (No devil fruit characters)
At this point, I wouldn't be surprised if Bonney is alive not because they don't wanna kill her but they CAN'T. In fiction, demons do contracts pretty often. Maybe a pact with Kuma was made regarding Bonney and killing her nerfs, damages, or releases them from staying on the mortal plain. They likely thought it was easy enough to agree to cuz Bonney is "just one girl" even if Kuma had little leverage against the Illumina- I mean, Gorosei
I always thought the 5 elders were tacticians or politicians, not powerhouses, but to choose to showcase their power in the presence of an admiral, I'm not so sure that's the best approach, it'll either undermine the admirals (by doing sth so easily Kizaru himself couldn't have done) at a time where oda is trying so hard to re-establish admirals after luffy has become yonko, or it'll be underwhelming by also failing to do what kizaru has been trying to do. Either way, not a good timing.
Ever since the Gorosei have been introduced it was obvious they were the strongest world government force. They were dressed like CP9 agents and one of them had a weapon that looked like a better version of the Wado Ichimonji. By the rules of anime, especially shounen, they were meant to be the strongest especially because we knew the least about them. I think people trying to over complicate it by saying they aren’t fighters or not stronger than admirals came from people not wanting how they view the power levels of the admirals to be challenged. Saying they weren’t fighters always seemed like such a desperate reach to keep admirals at the top of the food chain.
Bro they've been alive for 800 years. If they're real demons it makes sense and could just be the next level of power the strawhats have to get to. For all we know Dragon, Shanks and the admirals are already aware of this.
@@rerrer3346 Why would anyone wish to keep admirals or whoever for that matter at the top of the food chain? what purpose does that even serve? That's not it, rather I think it's to do with the power dynamics of the story and how it plays out & affects the overall build up of the one piece world now & in the past. It is precisely because admirals were thought to be the strongest; and since the gov only has a few of those monsters; that it was necessary to use allied forces so to speak such as yonko and warlords, Oda introduced this system as a necessity, but if the gov had such strength, then the yonkos and warlords should have been treated like any other pirates since they could be easily overcome. For this very reason, the five elders were thought to be controlling minds rather than fighters. Also, this approach is clearly how Oda intended to build the one piece world, because once the gov had no longer any needs for the warlords; they were hunted & treated like any other pirates. That is why it seems redundant, not because people are obsessed with powerscaling, I hope I clarified for you.
@@stuts2371 We don't know much about them and I think even Oda wasn't so sure what to make of them, that's most likely why he kept them a mystery up until now. I think even recently Oda wasn't so sure, to me if he wanted to showcase their unmeasurable danger & strength, they should have straight killed sabo or at least captured him since all five of them were present & sabo was exposed to highest classified piece of information, that would have been a perfect chance, maybe he will redeem this in future chapters, who knows.
In greek mytholody, when a mortal looks at the true divine form of a god, they will die. Perhaps that could explain why low ranking marines died just by looking at Saint Jaygarcia.
bro i got distracted and hear you spout one of the craziest things i've ever heard, Joy boy made the devil fruits?!? I mean okay, if that waggles your tail, have fun
Sanji Franky Bonney and Vegapunk +one of the satellites being the ones that happen to appear next to Saturn as he's summoned is going to be an interesting dynamic good way to scale what the strawhats can now do as well as a gorosei
There's a fan theory going around that Saturn took down Gol D. Roger. See, the fan theory goes like this: Roger turned himself in because he got sick and he knew the marines would never stop chasing him since he found the One Piece. The theory says this illness was given to him by Saturn. This is theorized because Saturn's devil fruit is based off an Ushi-Oni or Cow Demon, which looks like a spider with a cow head. Ushi Oni's are able to curse people with incurable diseases. So when saturn showed up lookin like this, people are like: "Yo, did Saturn and Roger fight? Did Roger fuck him up but Saturn cursed him to die within a year?"
The way the gorosei has gone from more lowkey machiavellian antagonists to full on mustache twirling villains makes me think that shanks meeting with them is even more sus. If theyre both super powerful in their own right and cool about killing on a whim, why meet with shanks and not try and kill him? Evil shanks theory intensifies…
Saturn is Molech the ancient bull god. Oda is referencing western and eastern 'demons' for the final villains which is pretty interesting. He's going for the devil rules the world ending I see.
with this week's chapter my brain put weird connect between Saint Jaygarcia and Sanji. Jaygarcia said that he hasn't been in the surface in a long time, well between Germa Kingdom and Baratie Sanji also hasn't been living in a surface island for most of his live. Just a weird connection my brain found while thinking about this week's chapter.
It may just be the fact I've been watching Bleach TYBW but I feel it may be a similar situation with the Five Elder Stars possibly having self sealed their powers due to the immense power they have and agreed to only break the seal and transform under certain circumstances so that they don't cause too much collateral damage. The seals in the holy land, where we see the elders most often together, could be precautions to keep them from accidently destroying the holy land during tense disagreements. If this is the case the seal he entered into egghead with could have a limit to the amount of time he can be there and transformed. It may also be the combined power of the other elders that allowed the seal to be broke in the first place.
I laughed so hard when you said Kuma coming to paw paw fruit the crew to safety because that’s what we’re all thinking or he’s gonna paw paw the whole marine fleet
Finally a sabaody repeat with the Gorosei being the Akainu. They called me mad. Also I hope Bony uses he Devil Fruit on Saturn and he stays the same revealing he’s immortal.
If Saturn does turn out to be some kind of demon, I wonder if thats in a different category from oni like Kaido and Yamato are. The gorsei don't seem to be chaotic evil, just going around killing anyone everyone for no reason. It might be kinda interesting if their rise to power had a legit reason at one time and they are trying to maintain the status quo to maintain some kind of balance.
Gorosei definitely have Akuma Akuma no mi or Yokai Yokai no mi and are going to be mythical versions of zoan just like Luffy. I can’t see them being a “demon” or anything like that. The closest thing we have is Kaido who was an Oni and based on the legendary tale of Shuten Doji one of the three terrible Yokai I also assume we are going to be getting characters based on Tamamo no Mae and Otakemaru who is most likely going to be Dragon based on his backstory and lore
Yea true kaido is like shuten doji. Im curious if the gorosei and imu are Onis themselves or are yokais are race different from Onis. Hold up, tamamo may be the yokai that samurai ghandi is, tamano fled into a plain or fields called Nasu, coincidence?. Ima look into Otakemaru
Here is my take. "One piece is a tale that revolves around the themes of struggle between God's & demons for power. Sun God Nika was King of Gods and Imu was the king of demons. The devil fruits were boons given by Gods' to the humans who worshipped them and wished for any boon. That is why devil fruits (known as God fruit) are known as the manifestation of human desire & passing of god's will. Once the battle was over & demons won, they changed the name of the "God's fruit" to devil fruit to keep the humans away from the god's. During the battle, demons got a weapon called haki which negated the god's power/gifts in the battle & only awaken devil fruits could go against that weapon. As humans were trying to be persuaded by both sides, both powers were distributed among the people.
Wait, why wouldn’t Sawyer connect the tale of the Ushi-Oni to the order given to all commodore level and below marines? Like yes, the in-world explanation is probably Conquerer’s Haki, but it sounds like Oda’s making a clear reference to this tale.
Just wanted to say because I've seen a few people confused about this somehow, the panel that shows Bonnie picking up the sword, well shows just that. An angled shot from the ground showing Bonnie quite clearly leaning down and picking up a sword that probably belonged to a marine.
One thing is for sure the Four Gods are strong and we have seen how Luffy's power in Gear 5 mode is able to finish off Kaido. As mentioned in skypia, there are four gods in One Piece namely the Sun God, Rain God, Forest God, and Earth God. The known (gods of above). What if those 4 god like abilities, are meet with equally powerful if not terrifying (gods of below)? I would like to imagen that the god of rain is able to limit their transformation by limiting the fire which reveals their nature.
Indont think Luffy "runs out of energy". I think if him deflating and restarting his heart as a kind of "phase 2" of Gear 5. Its like a cartoon character letting go of a giant ballon. Luffy doesnt have the control to keep the air he pumped into himself in. I think we will see a broadwr repeteoire of limiter for Gear 5 than just straight stamina. Lugfy will tey some new thing and it will backfire in a very Acme kinda way.
I really thought that I would like this arc as much as Thriller bark (I hate it) but this Egghead arc has me excited for the next chapter after every chapter.
Could there be a double awakening??? I don't think this is peak Nika, nor can the top strawhats take on the Gorosei and Imu. Zoro, Sanji, Jinbe will have to go beyond Yonko level in order to fight them
I have a theory: The fruits indeed explore evolutionary. Nika representing a divine future where all man is free, the dream of all people. The gorosei and Imu represent the other possible future, one where humans subjugate one and another to gain power hence them taking 'Demonic" look . Both paths lead to incredible power and as stated in christianity are destined to fight each other. The "D." is then an a ironic nod to actual Demons calling those who can bring heaven to earth a Demon. I mean its a little on the nose for Saturn to literally show up using a fking Pentagram!
I think the unearthly presence is the power of this "Gyuki" devil fruit because as a zoan it's got a will of it's own and being a yokai has a demonic presence
wouldn't be suprised if a conquerors haki user could force their will on the world literally like how shanks can destroy a ship and saturn might be able to blow up peoples heads
I feel his form is more inspired by what tekking101 found since we just had a whole arc about Japanese stuff but anyways he found a demon you can summon in witch craft or what ever it was & such that's tied to what Saturn is all about What his video for more context
Lmaooooo now that I think about it…. Guess we not speeding to the giants… LETS GOOOOO IT FRANKY ARC… SUPPPPPPPPEEEEERRRRRR he gonna use the giant from the void age to fight Saturn.
I think were being introduced to a whole new level of haki - introduced by Shanks himself at the end of Wano against Green Bull. Also, to a new level of adversary and, i deed, a whole new world within One Piece. Would t be surprised if there was a time skip after Egghead
If the Devil fruits (actually Dream Fruits, the way Vegapunk describes them) were first made by Joyboy, or were able to be dreamed into existence because the Joyboy existed at the time, that would make sense. Nika would be able to imbue his own fruit with HIS OWN WILL of D to seek the person with the matching Will of D, combining to certainly make the Joyboy whole again. Roger said "They left it all behind for the future", and Vegapunk says the dreams just manifested into fruit form. Joyboy left more than just ponoglyphs, ancient weapons, moon robots, and the Noah for his kingdom's revival. He left us the powers of dreams in fruits to be consumed by sailors who can assemble into a mighty pirate collaboration - the ultimate pirate crew - at a later time.
(hits blunt) what if there is no Logia awakening. Is kizaru supposed to create light out of the objects around him? Turn tangible things into intangible light
in Castle Pangea we had a room called the phantom room so what if IM ate the hito-hito no mi model Bakemono and given how a famous document called the Bakemono Scroll displayed iconic yokai what if IM used his powers to give the Elders their demonic forms.
This chapter made realize that regular marines have no business being this deep into the new world
even smoker has no business in the gran line. thats why he went back to east blue.
to be fair, you won't see a fight that's on the scale of egghead anywhere else on the new world. a yonko and crew, admiral and gorosei with marine forces all fighting
They weren't really supposed to be that deep. When Sakazuki took charge, he moved the main HQ into the new world.
Regular marine need to taste hell to make them strong, some of them need to rise to be next admiral.
Fr the power gap between the four blues and the grand line make it looks like demon slayer vs Dragon ball.
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@@taichou_exe you mean they are hq_exe ?
@@taichou_exei mean really … he’s not just regurgitating what happened in the chapter panel for panel he’s actually adding value and REVIEWING the chapter…
Simple. Sawyer is an experienced reviewer whose research is honest and who thinks outside the box.
Bonney stabbing Saturn is like doing 1 damage on the final boss on the hardest difficultly.
Saturn no sold it like the ultimate warrior
He still got stabbed by Bonney regardless. I bet you consider that a feat for Saturn…
That's 1 damage less to worry about
What Bonney did is the equivalent of hitting an opponent on Shadow fight 2 when it's level is impossible/purple
Is it tho? If you want to say realistically she's done barely any damage but u can't deny she did damage.
She didn't use her df, maybe she used haki but to get stabbe d by Bonney like that is just a terrible look.
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I feel like the the gap between the tcb scans & official release shouldn't be so long.
I check everyday since tcb scans release whether you have uploaded your review or not.
I haven't seen a 20 minute long video in a while.
No amount of lengthy videos feels long enough when it comes to you. That's the quality to content you give us.
Following you since Naruto reviews. You've been a constant ever since.
So here are few points to sum up everything I found so far from different people:
1. Saturn saying „The worlds surface, it‘s been a while“ and „Humans are like insects“ in chapter 1090 really indicates that he‘s not human at all but rather an immortal devil itself. Also supported by Sabo saying that hell is located at top of the world.
2. Considering Saturn having 5 and Mu meaning nothing (0), we could consider Saturn being the weakest and Imu being the strongest.
3. Based on Saturn being an Ushi Oni assigned to fire (see the flame patterns on his body), we could assume that the other Gorosei are based on the following: Peter is Umi Bozu (water), Mars is Ziz (wind), Nusjuro is Nurarihyon (spirit), Warcury is Behemoth (earth). This also fits into Gorosei being based on Archons from Gnosticism.
4. Egghead could be some sort of Sabaody 2.0. Now that Luffy is at his limit but a big threat is right in front of them, they are in need of an external savior. Maybe Kuma (again) since the whole Bonney/Kuma plot is still open and Bonney seems to know smth about Saturn. In addition, the Egghead incident is promised to shock the world, where people say Oda intentionally used the word "shock" to hint at Kumas importantance in this arc. The ancient robot could possibly play a big role in here as well.
The worlds surface comment most likely was about him not leaving marijeoa for years since the surface of that island is up in the sky
The 4th one is a stretch.
@@partyhardcake I'm thinking the old dudes are just avatars that they use to communicate with the outer world and they are actual devils from a different dimensions. It's just a weird line for someone who was just eating a sausage on a ship full of marines
I find it interesting that ppl are open to the gorosei being literal devils and not having a df inspite of saturn's devil fruit swirls on his body, having a black hagoromo scarf like kaku and lucci all cuz of the magic circle entrance(which could be a byproduct of his mythical zoan) and taking his surface comment literally
@@mokaljordan to be fair the average manga reader is 10 years old; if you think this is bad you should see the headcanon of berserk fans
Fair point to mention, we did get basically "Angel people" in the sky island arc, so it could just be that similar to how the Lunarians, have weird stuff. There might be people from a hell island or something similar.
The amount of research Sawyer does for all his reviews, and how he delivers them to the audience really shows how its is so much different from other OP reviews. Even though you are dealing a lot with life, we appreciate your time doing this Sawyer
I feel the same way about it.
for a decade he’s been reliable for good intel on great series
The scene of Kizaru telling the Navy grunt he’d take the food to Saturn takes on a whole new meaning now
Kizaru: here I’ll do it, don’t want you to lose your head
Navy Grunt: oh I wouldn’t panic for something so simple
Kizaru…yeah
Yup and its interesting that they were testing for poison in saturn's food when Ushi Onis breath or spit poison, so saturn would be immune to it,that makes him scarier than Meruem
When was this?
@@weafy6007 he is recontextualing the dialouge at the end of chapter 1073
@@weafy6007he’s just making it up… DONT BELIEVE HIM!
So agree with the elders and imu not being human. Garcia even called luffy nika instead of strawhat meaning they also seem to know joy boy on a personal level.
I need that kuma back story so bad now
Robin may not be the main focus of the arc but I think Oda showing us the the aftermath of Ohara is important. Robin is the “demon child” and Ohara id essentially a “nation of the demons” where the “demons of Ohara” hails from (according to the world). Oda and his themes. I like your idea about demons. Maybe Goda is trying to build something on this.
Another thing that really caught my attention was that he referred to Luffy as Nika rather than by his name. It could be that Saturn not only summoned this power, but that the power is actually an entity that possessed Saturn and the entity may know this Nika, or is familiar with him. Saturn and this entity are sharing the body and the entity is being expressed or brought into existence through the same way as the Zoan "devil fruits."
As the Gov't stated, Gum Gum fruit almost acted as if it had a will of it's own. This also adds more credence to Blackbeard being possessed by the Yami Yami no mi, or rather - the spirit or will of the Yami Yami no mi, found Blackbeard, and was separated from it's actual powers, and was trying to find it's way back to it's powers by tempting Blackbeard and subverting his will for greatness to achieve it's own agenda. It's speculative at best but I honestly like this explanation.
I agree with this alot except the part about yami yami no mi and blackbeard; because blackbeard was the same way he is now before he ate the yami yami no mi he just hid his true self under white beard until he finally got the DF. Its more fair to say that the fruit and black beard are alike and was attracted to black beard for he is
that sounds awesome. i hope so
Wow that's deep I was wondering why he says it's been a while since he came to the surface. I was confused
This summarized something that popped up in my head
tldr theory will be thrown out the window by next week
The Ride, Ride fruit is really good for somone small like Bluegrass, it would be really cool to see a Tontatta use that fruit because of there tiny size.
Egghead is the parallel to Sabaody for many reasons.
Elbaf Is next and will be the parallel to amazon lily. A Warrior tribe who values strength. my guess is that luffy will split off with the strawhats (possibly to go with dragon if he arrives on egghead, or if Luffy potentially has to stay behind so that his crew can safely get to elbaf as a parallel to how he couldnt protect his crew at sabaody)
I am now convinced that Marie Jois is after Elbaf and will be the parallel to Impel Down. Marie Jois is the highest place on earth, and impel down is the lowest. Impel Down is seemingly hell, but still has a community of positive people (Newkama), while Marie Jois is seemingly heaven, but as Sabo described is, in reality, hell on earth. I believe the Strawhats will have to sneak in in the same way luffy snuck in to Impel Down. Also Luffy didnt even defeat the main villain of Impel Down, Magellan. Could we see a team up between Luffy and Blackbeard to defeat Imu??
And then the final war. No idea where this could take place lol possibly at laugh tale? who knows
i hope not.. amazon lilly in my humble opinion was weak( not as weak as wano, of course)
@@antoniou.1158wano is weak?
hell no luffy isnt teaming up with blackbeard
@@kcidd12lol even Garp teamed up with Roger
Maybe final war takes place in earth, underwater and the sky all same time
I really love your video sawyer. I really do. But can you please make the last music or sound in your video turn down for a quite of volume? Thanks in advance man
That random navy soldier sure was impressed after Saturn made his mind blowing entrance.
I was discussing the topic of the Gorosei's abilities with my brother and I tossed out what if instead of having awakened fruits, the Gorosei have CORRUPTED fruits? Damn is being a One Piece fan good😫
Man I been watching you since I was 15😂 now I’m 24 and still watching here and there you’ve always been the guy I go to after reading one piece ❤ Ty so much sawyer appreciate your dedication and passion for op verse
I've watched some of your other videos too, but this one right here hits the right spot. Just subbed! Hoping for some more interesting and in-depth theories in the future.
"aahh, the surface" was the part where I gave in.
It's interesting that Oda decided to use Bonney for the first attack on Saturn. I can see Bonney using her attack to try and take away 100 years off of Saturn's life, just to find out that it doesn't work. The readers finally discover that he's immortal.
Damn, I hope this happens.
She might take away 200 years only to discover that he is 1000 years old, and it just ends up making him stronger.
I think the key to Blackbeard might be the connection that was made with Uta. It was her devil fruit power that was able to unlock the power of “The Demon King”. Remember when Blackbeard fought Ace? He use a technique “Black Hole” to suck the town into darkness and then use a technique called “Liberation” to expel the town. If the theory of The Gorosei’s (5 Elder Stars/Planets) is correct and their true powers/form was somehow sealed, maybe it was Blackbeards devil fruit that unsealed them. Maybe he can even “seal” and “unseal” them. What if that’s the reason Imu had his picture alongside Luffy, Shirahoshi and Vivi? Because these powers are the ones that pose him the biggest threat of being defeated. And maybe that’s also a key to the events in the Void Century. Maybe the person who betrayed the D Clan somehow gained or stole the power of the darkness fruit and made a deal with Imu to unsealed these demons into the world and that’s how the war was won.
There’s so many themes that have been floating around that are starting to merge and have a clear connection. “Sun” God, Five Elder “Stars/Planets”, a Darkness fruit with the power of “Black Holes”, “Celestial” Dragons, and even the “Void” Century. There’s the people of Wano and their connection to the Moon, I even remember in an another video that you made a connection to Sanji’s previous bounty and the planet Venus. There’s the 3 Ancient Weapons in Pluton, Poseidon & Uranus. And if there’s Devils and Devils fruits, are the people of the Sky Islands Angels? Lol idk man, this story is so beautiful and I can’t wait for all these questions to be answered
If Saturn would have a strong conqueror haki like Shanks then the fodder marines would simply faint and there would be no reason to tell them to avert their gaze
5:10 only i notice that thes something wrong how imu walks the stairs? the candles sugests the stairs going down but we see whole silhouette, we should see only top of head.
Some kind of sticky spce wrap fruit powers?
Saturn emerged from the same circle those cult dudes "summoned" Brook in the time skip
Maybe brook will have some insight on the underworld or demon devil fruits.
Love your chapter breakdowns. You clear a lot up for me. Appreciate you!
It’s you saying I hope you guys have a great week that made me sub 💪🏾🙌🏾💯
Bro your theory is so good, I never been so into watching a full theory video
Joyboy creating the devil fruits and actually tasting bad reminds me of luffy cooking LoL, nice catch there.
it just makes sense because when luffy awakens he said that he can finally do everything he wants but we know that he would like to do that with his friends too so by making the fruits he gave ppl the chance to do just that. Something coming straight up from imagination
Small theory for the end of egghead, we haven’t seen BB crew yet, a lot of speculation was that Katerina was impersonating somebody mainly Bonney, but I think a better theory could be that after egg head resolves, BB comes in and kidnaps Saturn for his plan to make his kingdom
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5:58 the example you give looks like it has cow head in the center of it. The bottom row looks like a different animal... could that be a reference to each of their transformations
I really liked the idea that the Gorosei don’t have yokai devil fruits but are actual demons. Very interesting theory! Imu could be the Umi Bozu?
... if Imu was the Umi Bozu, does that make the things in the Florian Triangle *something else* I wonder or are they something related to Imu? Genuine question because now the fact that Imu is Umi spelled backwards means more than just 'ocean' to me lmao.
Yeah i mean the pentagram summoning at least to me made it feel pretty obvious, completely off the mark even, that we weren't dealing with another devil fruit. I think we might be getting to the part of the story where those bits of lore start to coalesce into something. Demons, Lunarians(potentially angels), Giants, Sea Bests, and honestly even Dragons. Compared to the technology available and the fact that the majority of the one piece world is like islands, it starts to seem more and more to me that this story is turning into a post apocalyptic world that regressed back to a time where piracy was normal, and potentially because chunks of land have just been wiped out (ancient weapons are kinda proof of that).
Your comment made me think of Attack on Titan heh
I would very much like this theory to be true. Imagine a world at present that is vastly different a thousand years ago would be very intriguing. So much mystery still to uncover from this lore heavy world, you'd love to see it
Film Red had a special edition SBS and in it oda said
"Ive set a rule that in the world of One Piece, theres nothing mysterious other than the Devil Fruits. In other words, any phenomenon outside of the devil fruits can logically exist without being strange. So, even tho the Demon King Tottumujika appears in the Uta World, the concept if a 'Demon' King does exist in One Piece."
Which tells me that the same theory that vegapunk had for the devil fruit origin is the same cause of the phenomenon of other weird things we see in the one piece world i.e. the mass or group of ppl desired and manifested yokai devil fruits or literal yokai demons. Brook being summoned by long leg cultists might be forshadowing for that. Perhaps 5 of the 20 kingdoms conjured or desired for a power to defeat joyboy or all 19 out of 20 desired a demon king and the nerona monarch inheirited their will
U smart
@@LeJoyBoy23 Ty bro i try,with each revelation in the story the community is able to put the pieces together more and more
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5:50 To add to this, Pentagram in japanese is Gobousei 五芒星 which is one character difference to Gorousei
oi dude, i think your on to something about teech and him not sleeping and the mushroom. very VERY interesting
Wow, that Ushimaru cloak is so similar to Saturn transformation. Good catch bro
Mad early but love your videos, your breakdowns are so well done👍🏼keep it up
Your reviews are truly the best.
Been awhile since I've felt this tense. It's well welcomed
6:45 - I think death/hell-wink type energy
The elder stars may all have mythical zoan devil fruits . Amazing that zoans became the most powerful fruit being that it has both properties of paramacia and logia
King of Lightning came up to essentially the same theory of Toth Musica in film Red and Saturn.
YAS!!! I can’t wait to see what happens this week. I have a feeling Dragon is on the way 👀
Hype if he shows up there
Chapter 1100. I feel like that chapter will be huge. Dragon showing up? 🤔
@@milessmiles9289 that’s 1000 chapters since he was introduced so I am a believer. I also think Sanji will have his “Nothing Happened” moment here as well. He almost has to if Zoro and Luffy are too exhausted to beat Saturn.
you got yourself a nice editor.
Adding to characters having mixed traits with demons… yea Zoro also is always using Demons for boosts and techniques. So with that being said.. Gol D Rodger as well? Rocks? (No devil fruit characters)
At this point, I wouldn't be surprised if Bonney is alive not because they don't wanna kill her but they CAN'T. In fiction, demons do contracts pretty often. Maybe a pact with Kuma was made regarding Bonney and killing her nerfs, damages, or releases them from staying on the mortal plain. They likely thought it was easy enough to agree to cuz Bonney is "just one girl" even if Kuma had little leverage against the Illumina- I mean, Gorosei
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I always thought the 5 elders were tacticians or politicians, not powerhouses, but to choose to showcase their power in the presence of an admiral, I'm not so sure that's the best approach, it'll either undermine the admirals (by doing sth so easily Kizaru himself couldn't have done) at a time where oda is trying so hard to re-establish admirals after luffy has become yonko, or it'll be underwhelming by also failing to do what kizaru has been trying to do. Either way, not a good timing.
Or Oda could find a middle ground and show the elders as being on par with the admirals. So neither side is undermined
Ever since the Gorosei have been introduced it was obvious they were the strongest world government force. They were dressed like CP9 agents and one of them had a weapon that looked like a better version of the Wado Ichimonji. By the rules of anime, especially shounen, they were meant to be the strongest especially because we knew the least about them. I think people trying to over complicate it by saying they aren’t fighters or not stronger than admirals came from people not wanting how they view the power levels of the admirals to be challenged. Saying they weren’t fighters always seemed like such a desperate reach to keep admirals at the top of the food chain.
Bro they've been alive for 800 years. If they're real demons it makes sense and could just be the next level of power the strawhats have to get to. For all we know Dragon, Shanks and the admirals are already aware of this.
@@rerrer3346 Why would anyone wish to keep admirals or whoever for that matter at the top of the food chain? what purpose does that even serve? That's not it, rather I think it's to do with the power dynamics of the story and how it plays out & affects the overall build up of the one piece world now & in the past. It is precisely because admirals were thought to be the strongest; and since the gov only has a few of those monsters; that it was necessary to use allied forces so to speak such as yonko and warlords, Oda introduced this system as a necessity, but if the gov had such strength, then the yonkos and warlords should have been treated like any other pirates since they could be easily overcome. For this very reason, the five elders were thought to be controlling minds rather than fighters.
Also, this approach is clearly how Oda intended to build the one piece world, because once the gov had no longer any needs for the warlords; they were hunted & treated like any other pirates. That is why it seems redundant, not because people are obsessed with powerscaling, I hope I clarified for you.
@@stuts2371 We don't know much about them and I think even Oda wasn't so sure what to make of them, that's most likely why he kept them a mystery up until now. I think even recently Oda wasn't so sure, to me if he wanted to showcase their unmeasurable danger & strength, they should have straight killed sabo or at least captured him since all five of them were present & sabo was exposed to highest classified piece of information, that would have been a perfect chance, maybe he will redeem this in future chapters, who knows.
In greek mytholody, when a mortal looks at the true divine form of a god, they will die. Perhaps that could explain why low ranking marines died just by looking at Saint Jaygarcia.
bro i got distracted and hear you spout one of the craziest things i've ever heard, Joy boy made the devil fruits?!? I mean okay, if that waggles your tail, have fun
Sanji Franky Bonney and Vegapunk +one of the satellites being the ones that happen to appear next to Saturn as he's summoned is going to be an interesting dynamic good way to scale what the strawhats can now do as well as a gorosei
There's a fan theory going around that Saturn took down Gol D. Roger. See, the fan theory goes like this: Roger turned himself in because he got sick and he knew the marines would never stop chasing him since he found the One Piece. The theory says this illness was given to him by Saturn.
This is theorized because Saturn's devil fruit is based off an Ushi-Oni or Cow Demon, which looks like a spider with a cow head. Ushi Oni's are able to curse people with incurable diseases.
So when saturn showed up lookin like this, people are like: "Yo, did Saturn and Roger fight? Did Roger fuck him up but Saturn cursed him to die within a year?"
The way the gorosei has gone from more lowkey machiavellian antagonists to full on mustache twirling villains makes me think that shanks meeting with them is even more sus. If theyre both super powerful in their own right and cool about killing on a whim, why meet with shanks and not try and kill him? Evil shanks theory intensifies…
Tell me some of what u think that’s super fishy he’s hanging with demons?? Come on doesn’t make sense if it’s Shanks lol
Saturn is Molech the ancient bull god. Oda is referencing western and eastern 'demons' for the final villains which is pretty interesting. He's going for the devil rules the world ending I see.
With Elbaf just being Fable backwards, who is to say that devil fruits were not called Lived fruits (devil backwards) at one point in OPs world?
with this week's chapter my brain put weird connect between Saint Jaygarcia and Sanji. Jaygarcia said that he hasn't been in the surface in a long time, well between Germa Kingdom and Baratie Sanji also hasn't been living in a surface island for most of his live. Just a weird connection my brain found while thinking about this week's chapter.
Great points of view
It may just be the fact I've been watching Bleach TYBW but I feel it may be a similar situation with the Five Elder Stars possibly having self sealed their powers due to the immense power they have and agreed to only break the seal and transform under certain circumstances so that they don't cause too much collateral damage. The seals in the holy land, where we see the elders most often together, could be precautions to keep them from accidently destroying the holy land during tense disagreements. If this is the case the seal he entered into egghead with could have a limit to the amount of time he can be there and transformed. It may also be the combined power of the other elders that allowed the seal to be broke in the first place.
Love your chapters sawyer!!
Watching these videos make it seem like a totally different series. Maybe I'm just dumb and everything flies right over my head.
I laughed so hard when you said Kuma coming to paw paw fruit the crew to safety because that’s what we’re all thinking or he’s gonna paw paw the whole marine fleet
Finally a sabaody repeat with the Gorosei being the Akainu. They called me mad. Also I hope Bony uses he Devil Fruit on Saturn and he stays the same revealing he’s immortal.
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If Saturn does turn out to be some kind of demon, I wonder if thats in a different category from oni like Kaido and Yamato are. The gorsei don't seem to be chaotic evil, just going around killing anyone everyone for no reason. It might be kinda interesting if their rise to power had a legit reason at one time and they are trying to maintain the status quo to maintain some kind of balance.
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Gorosei definitely have Akuma Akuma no mi or Yokai Yokai no mi and are going to be mythical versions of zoan just like Luffy. I can’t see them being a “demon” or anything like that.
The closest thing we have is Kaido who was an Oni and based on the legendary tale of Shuten Doji one of the three terrible Yokai
I also assume we are going to be getting characters based on Tamamo no Mae and Otakemaru who is most likely going to be Dragon based on his backstory and lore
Yea true kaido is like shuten doji. Im curious if the gorosei and imu are Onis themselves or are yokais are race different from Onis. Hold up, tamamo may be the yokai that samurai ghandi is, tamano fled into a plain or fields called Nasu, coincidence?. Ima look into Otakemaru
Here is my take. "One piece is a tale that revolves around the themes of struggle between God's & demons for power. Sun God Nika was King of Gods and Imu was the king of demons. The devil fruits were boons given by Gods' to the humans who worshipped them and wished for any boon. That is why devil fruits (known as God fruit) are known as the manifestation of human desire & passing of god's will. Once the battle was over & demons won, they changed the name of the "God's fruit" to devil fruit to keep the humans away from the god's. During the battle, demons got a weapon called haki which negated the god's power/gifts in the battle & only awaken devil fruits could go against that weapon. As humans were trying to be persuaded by both sides, both powers were distributed among the people.
All this info on the elders makes shanks meeting with them way more epic
Wait, why wouldn’t Sawyer connect the tale of the Ushi-Oni to the order given to all commodore level and below marines? Like yes, the in-world explanation is probably Conquerer’s Haki, but it sounds like Oda’s making a clear reference to this tale.
Just wanted to say because I've seen a few people confused about this somehow, the panel that shows Bonnie picking up the sword, well shows just that. An angled shot from the ground showing Bonnie quite clearly leaning down and picking up a sword that probably belonged to a marine.
5:12 does anyone notice that imu is using those stairs horizontaly just look que candles
One thing is for sure the Four Gods are strong and we have seen how Luffy's power in Gear 5 mode is able to finish off Kaido. As mentioned in skypia, there are four gods in One Piece namely the Sun God, Rain God, Forest God, and Earth God. The known (gods of above).
What if those 4 god like abilities, are meet with equally powerful if not terrifying (gods of below)?
I would like to imagen that the god of rain is able to limit their transformation by limiting the fire which reveals their nature.
Indont think Luffy "runs out of energy". I think if him deflating and restarting his heart as a kind of "phase 2" of Gear 5. Its like a cartoon character letting go of a giant ballon. Luffy doesnt have the control to keep the air he pumped into himself in. I think we will see a broadwr repeteoire of limiter for Gear 5 than just straight stamina. Lugfy will tey some new thing and it will backfire in a very Acme kinda way.
I really thought that I would like this arc as much as Thriller bark (I hate it) but this Egghead arc has me excited for the next chapter after every chapter.
I wish you would put the same amount of effort into saying Marie Jois as you do Yonko.
Could there be a double awakening??? I don't think this is peak Nika, nor can the top strawhats take on the Gorosei and Imu. Zoro, Sanji, Jinbe will have to go beyond Yonko level in order to fight them
There are swords and weapons all around the battlefield
Luffy fought kaido in awakening mode for a while but here it seems he reached his time limit very soon i am guessing he is going to hype the gorosei.
I have a theory: The fruits indeed explore evolutionary. Nika representing a divine future where all man is free, the dream of all people. The gorosei and Imu represent the other possible future, one where humans subjugate one and another to gain power hence them taking 'Demonic" look . Both paths lead to incredible power and as stated in christianity are destined to fight each other. The "D." is then an a ironic nod to actual Demons calling those who can bring heaven to earth a Demon. I mean its a little on the nose for Saturn to literally show up using a fking Pentagram!
Gobousei 五芒星 is Pentagram in Japanese. If that's not foreshadowing the Gorousei as devils, I dont know what is!!
Either Kuma or the Iron Giant is gonna come next chapter. Saturn seems to be the same size as the iron giant, especially.
I think the unearthly presence is the power of this "Gyuki" devil fruit because as a zoan it's got a will of it's own and being a yokai has a demonic presence
wouldn't be suprised if a conquerors haki user could force their will on the world literally like how shanks can destroy a ship and saturn might be able to blow up peoples heads
I agree. I believe imu has a scroll type power over the elders. That's why they can enter through a scroll.
I feel his form is more inspired by what tekking101 found since we just had a whole arc about Japanese stuff but anyways he found a demon you can summon in witch craft or what ever it was & such that's tied to what Saturn is all about
What his video for more context
Oars and Oars Jr both had 3 skulls on there on there fronts, no one seems to ever mention that, only about Blackbeard!
thank you!
Do you have colored contacts in?
the strongest argument for saturn transformation being a mythical zoan is the Awakened Zoan Smoke Scarf thing around him .
Lmaooooo now that I think about it…. Guess we not speeding to the giants… LETS GOOOOO IT FRANKY ARC… SUPPPPPPPPEEEEERRRRRR he gonna use the giant from the void age to fight Saturn.
I think were being introduced to a whole new level of haki - introduced by Shanks himself at the end of Wano against Green Bull. Also, to a new level of adversary and, i deed, a whole new world within One Piece. Would t be surprised if there was a time skip after Egghead
If the Devil fruits (actually Dream Fruits, the way Vegapunk describes them) were first made by Joyboy, or were able to be dreamed into existence because the Joyboy existed at the time, that would make sense. Nika would be able to imbue his own fruit with HIS OWN WILL of D to seek the person with the matching Will of D, combining to certainly make the Joyboy whole again.
Roger said "They left it all behind for the future", and Vegapunk says the dreams just manifested into fruit form. Joyboy left more than just ponoglyphs, ancient weapons, moon robots, and the Noah for his kingdom's revival. He left us the powers of dreams in fruits to be consumed by sailors who can assemble into a mighty pirate collaboration - the ultimate pirate crew - at a later time.
Amazing pin-pointed observations.
(hits blunt) what if there is no Logia awakening. Is kizaru supposed to create light out of the objects around him? Turn tangible things into intangible light
Besides having somewhat similar family stories, Sanji and Bonnie both seem to use their legs to fight. We saw it clearly in 1094.
in Castle Pangea we had a room called the phantom room so what if IM ate the hito-hito no mi model Bakemono and given how a famous document called the Bakemono Scroll displayed iconic yokai what if IM used his powers to give the Elders their demonic forms.
another TH-camr JamiUWU was watching part of Film Red and doing a review
That afterlife thing has me thinking. We may be heading towards fruits having souls of the past users in them