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Melo didn't do that there was a whole situation at that time, And plus that was when the knicks organization began to get fucked up terribly! So that was not Melo's fault
I've hated him all but three years of his career. Just because he scored in Denver doesn't mean he wasn't the same selfish, inefficient, overrated prick who showed himself in NY.
matthew concepcion It’s called Triple Threat moves. Jordan and Kobe did them a lot too , Melo not gon work hard when it’s easy to win of 1st step to score .
You raised a very solid point in this video. People, especially newer basketball fans, just look at stats to determine how good a player is when they never watched a player play. That's why we have people like Nick Wright just looking a Kobe's field goal percentage and saying that he's inefficient. Kobe's playstyle, in which all of his shots are heavily contested and 80% of them perimeter shots, warrants a 45% career percentage. Saying people like Kobe and Dirk are way less efficient than LeBron is illogical because shot selection does matter. Comparing someone who takes predominantly perimeter shots to someone who shoots 60% of his shots in the paint is ridiculous. By that logic, DJ is more efficient that LeBron, even though 100% of his shots are dunks. People say Iverson shoots ridiculously low from the field, but given his teammates, he had to take a bunch of shots that were heavily contested. This happened in the 2015 finals when LeBron shot 39% because he had no help. He had great stats, but they weren't efficient. But we all know that his %s were warranted because he had no one around him. There has never been a roster that Melo had prior to last year where you can say, "That team should have won the conference" or "Melo had so much talent, his fg% shouldn't be that low". I swear, 90% of NBA twitter just use stats to say who's better.
Kobe was amazing but if 80% of the shots he took were heavily contested , as you proclaim, it's bad shot selection on his part so it should be criticized
Melo in his prime was amazing no one can deny that but now he really need to start to think like an efficient veteran role player that every team wants just like Vince Carter or Jamal Crawford
I think he is still a starter level player. You just gotta use him right. He belongs in the post, then rarely stepping out for a open 3 once he cooks up. Not the other way around like in okc. If the rockets use him as a old man veteran post player, i think he will redeem himself.
da_jeezuss correct,The Thunder wasn’t using him right with westbrick bricking all the time passing out to the 3pt expecting him to make any off balanced shot being that last ditch effort at a score in a possession opposed to feeding the ball to him in the post like George did.
People don't take into account his teams vs their opponents. He underrated the Clippers that year, and forgot JR Smith torpedo against the Pacers after he got suspended. JR was his 2nd or 3rd best player for like 5 years.
@@JustHeroic i know when this was. I can read. Thanks. Hes not proving shit. He hasn't played a game in the NBA for months; and there's a reason for that. He couldn't stay on a team with a coach that focuses HEAVILY on running offense powerhouses and that one of his friends are on. That should trll you that hes not good anymore.
Nah nobody really thought the Knicks were gonna make the conference finals. It was an Atlanta Hawks/Toronto Raptors type regular season. Pacers were gonna be a bad matchup for them
Actually, in 2013, everyone already had the Knicks vs Heat in the ECF. The pacers were an unknown, the bulls were badly injured (as always), the nets choked (to the bulls, somehow), and the Celtics big 3 era was over. That left 2 teams, and one of them somehow choked.
The biggest problem with melo is he is living in the past, he still thinks he is a superstar and deserves a first option role but the truth is he’s a vet player that people are only gonna want so he can teach their young players and deliver solid numbers
I'm a huge Carmelo Anthony fan. He was my favorite player and he made me really get into the game of basketball. I owe that man more than he can ever know. That said, Melo was the one of the most selfish players from his time w Nuggets-Knicks. Alot of his hate stems from the demanded trade and Jeremy Lin situation
I always refer to melo when he comes up as the curious case of melo career, he came in the game with a polished offensive game more than anyone in his draft class but I believe injuries that was never public hindered him if you play you can see his lateral movements just haven’t been the same in years. I could go on and on about this but dope commentary Dom.
Mr Spizite Its kinda true. He wanted that Big city spotlight in NY. that's why it took him so long to waive that no trade clause to get off of the dysfunctional Knicks. He enjoyed that low pressure situation. The OKC move does kind of contradict that, but he has proven to be all about the money, and has the ego of a winner, when he hasn't done anything.
If he would have formed voltron with a contender in his prime for less money everyone would call him a bitch for doing it. Yall need to stop watching ESPN
Not true at all there's not even enough money in the world to please a man let alone one making millions. He's said it live to media all he wants from career is a ring. I think he's made that rumor pretty clear!
@@FAlynn92 Not true he stayed with the Knicks because he saw everything that happened to his buddy Lebron in Cleveland when he joined Miami and He didn't want that to happen to him nor did he want to let New York fans down. Plus "Big City Spotlight" if that was the case he would've went to the Lakers. Plus U can see now that New York excepted his decision he continues to come back because He feels welcome. Denver was Ungrateful.
He wasn't blessed with all-star teammates but he was always surrounded with good players and a great coach in George Karl during his stay in Denver. Their team was built like Dallas but never achieved anything.
1:11 you just explained it in one sentence, you understand he is not a superstar, the people that are hating on him still see him as the New York player expecting as much of him.
Melo doesn't get the respect he deserves. As u mentioned , look at them teams in the west he was going against every year. Melo was one of the greatest scorers of all time. And for those of y'all who think he should come off the bench in Houston, y'all need to learn the game of basketball. Why would u bring him off the bench with eric Gordon who is already one of the best bench scorers in the league and is in the game to get buckets. If u do that melon won't be able to get in a rythym just like when he played with westbrook. He will fit in much better with a real point guard like cp3 who will set him up and feed him the rock unlike Westbrook who likes to chuck up 50 shots a game and pad his stats.
Melo isn't the same and he still thinks he's the godlike scorer he used to be. I'm not on the hate train on his past he was a beast but with what he is now not playing defense still tryna be the iso king while being slow he needs to cut the ego come off the bench bust like 16-18 off the bench then sit down. He should not start unless he magically learns to play D because his offense isn't on the level of making it worth the trade.
I always question why players like Melo complain about a bench role... Youre getting 24-32 freaking minutes every night that you probably dont even deserve anyways
I wonder why nobody pulled his coat tail & let him know that no championship would hurt his career, but all his decisions are coming back to bite him...I think he has way too yes men around him, the game evolved & he didn't...
You made a lot of good points. One point you didn't mention is the lack of development/evolution to Melo's game. This is reflected in his I ain't coming off no bench mindset but I think it's huge in how he's been received. He's always been expected to be on par with Bron or at least 2nd to him in terms of on court performance. Coming off of that NCAA chip & the numbers he put up in year 1 the notion was pushed forward. It just seemed early on that Melo was most comfortable with where he was as a hooper than the others he was lumped with from his draft class. They all added to their games while he just refined what he naturally had. What he didn't become seems to be what pisses his fans/haters off the most.
9:00? No one was going to beat Golden State? The Rockets would have minus the injury of their best playoff player and floor general. Not to mention the historically bad shooting night that could have been avoided if CP3 was running the floor.
the warriors were huge favorites throughout the entire playoffs and season. the majority of nba fans werent expecting the rockets to actually win the series, although they did come close. but just because the rockets got close doesnt mean the warriors still werent the favorites to win the series anyway.
They were the favorites for sure that's not debatable. Iguodala is around the 6th best player on GS. Chris Paul in the playoffs was the best player for Houston, non-comparable.
AGuyNamedKevin the thing was steph and Durant were starting to choke and if it weren’t for Andre leading that second unit they would have most likely lost
during 2006 to 2010 most of my classmates had PG/SG as their favourite player, someone likes Tmac, someone likes Kobe, someone likes Arenas and for me is Nash. There's actually one guy who thought Billups was the best player and played like him, another one was AI's no.1 fan but played like Ray Allen. The day when Billups/Iverson trade happened, both of them cried saying it's the worst trade. Then it turned out Denver became scary in the playoffs while Detroit totally irrelevant since. In my memory watching nba everyday since 2004, Anthony's best time was only with Billups, not that 2013 playoff run. Besides 2009 & 2010 playoffs, his team looked to get destroyed every time.
Melo was good in a time were there was no great spacing, shooting guards had to creat, he molded his game in these conditions, its hard to change that, especially for someone not that smart like Melo.
I looked up Melo stats last season he shot 45% from the field and 35% from 3 he not 40% as you stated in your video he averaged 16ppg as a 4th not a 3rd option he was rated better defensively then that of a PJ Tucker and Gerald Green who people are saying should start over him for defense Melo is placed under a microscope so all his mistakes and missteps are more noticed you can literally place any player under the same microscope and notice the same flaws and mistakes in their games no Melo is a star any longer yes he wasted his prime cause he didn't see how the league was changing beneath his feet in enough time but he doesn't deserve all the extra shit he gets how do you blame a 4th option for the fall of a team who's leader was literally the worst player on his on team and got worked by a rookie how is that the 4th options fault the outcome would have been the same if he came off the bench people just hate to admit the truth when the Rockets fall short this year Melo has already been set up to be the scapegoat excuse even tho the Rockets haven't been to the NBA finals since the 90s and fall short every season he shot 40% in the playoffs because he was used as a shot clock bail out option not in his proper context
The Melo hate is obviously cause of his damn ego. If he just said, "Yeah I'll come off the bench if it helps my team" fans wouldn't grill him so hard. The man's obv not a starter anymore and needs to accept that fact, he's just jab-steppin his teams out of contention rn
That's the problem . Yah know the thunder never asked him to come off the bench right ? Like that shit never happened 😂. The media guy asked him when he 1st got to okc and during his exit interview. He was never asked by the team to play ah being role . Ever wonder why it was so easy for him to except the role I'm Houston so quickly? Cause they asked. Okc never asked him to play off the bench
Carmelo is hated by his old haters that couldn't say anything two or three years before because he was great or by kids that started watching basketball last year and don't know shit about him
or, people that see he is a detriment to his teams and cares about how many points he can average more than team success. OR someone who has not added anything to his game since he was a rookie? OR someone who feuds with coaches and teammates who steal his shine (lin, Iverson, stoudemire, George Karl, made d'antoni step down)? OR it could be that he chose to stay on a dysfunctional losing team for more money, rather than trying to put forth effort to win? but nah, just call them haters for no reason.
@@FAlynn92 you can't say that he is a detriment to his teams because of two relatively bad seasons the knicks or nuggets haven't got enough succes since he left . He is 33 years old so he is naturally declining in his prime he was a decent defender and was better and better at scoring so it's false to say that he didn't add anything to his game . He chose money over winning but that was good for the knicks because it made the relevant to the league and the market. About feuds I don't know
The nuggets were still a good team the next 3 seasons after he left. They didn't drop off until 2014. Decent is about the best his defense ever was. Getting better at scoring doesn't add anything else to your game. He still isn't/wasn't a defender, rebounder, passer, playmaker, etc. And his style of offense is very discouraging to his teammates, who often get caught ball watching because they don't expect to get the ball after he jab steps 1000 times (detriment). His style of play discourages his teammates on both ends. Him choosing money over winning wasn't really good for the knicks. If anything, it stopped them from getting any other players to put around him. and the Knicks would be "relevant" with or without him, seeing as they are a NYC team, which always get attention just because.
@@FAlynn92 his playstyle is isolation since when isolation is bad ? Kobe did it Iveron did it etc many of his teamates weren't even that good so iso was necessary . Also being a decent defender isn't bad you can see that he gives a hard time to Kobe on highlights
+Cream Since he's so detrimental, how many playoff series have Denver won since he left? Who took Denver to the playoffs every season after not making it for 8 straight seasons before he got there? Who made New York an instant playoff team in 2011? Who won New York their first series win in 13 years? I guess not Melo, since he's so detrimental to his teams.
I still remember the SLAM magazine cover of Melo on some skyscraper roof in NYC with the Empire State Building and it said something like “King of the Big Apple” on it. Everybody was thinking he’d make them a contender.
As a die hard Knick fan it is hard not to point a finger at JR Smith for them losing to the pacers in 2013. JR just wasn’t himself after he got suspended in the first round. Then the next year the Phil Jackson era came in during the 2014 season and well that was awful. Once the Knicks got Andrea Barngani it was game over for Melo and the knicks
Good video. Buuut...Why not call this “Fresh Cuts” or something instead of Barbershop Talk? Barbershop Talk just sounds like a lot of other podcasts and stuff, like that Alabama one and 2K and do many other shows. Just my 2 Cents.
he was inefficient played no defense not a great shooter not a good passer People talk about players who "make everyone better".... Carmelo couldn't even make himself better, lol
100% agreed. a one-dimensional player who never added anything to his game. Too lazy to defend, doesn't pass, make plays, rebound consistently, etc. Just jab-steps.
Coolhands444 Melo didn’t play well down the stretch of that series if I remember. Refusing to pass the ball when other guys were hot, horrible on-ball defense (like always).
Edgar Gordillo nope melo was the only one hot jr choked amare choke and got eaten alive by david west kidd missed last 30 shots of his career shumpert wasn’t the same after injury and woodson took novak melo’s favorite target (54% of melo’s passes) out of rotation
I like how people hate on melo but in the playoffs pg and russ didn’t perform that good in the playoffs russ had 46 on like 18 for 43 and pg shot 2 for 16 in game 6
The hate that Carmelo gets comes from... I'm not sure tbh. I guess people don't see him as a winner, or someone who WANTS to win? He couldn't work alongside Iverson in Denver, he forced his way off of a pretty decent Nuggets team to go to a worse Knicks team, which he made even worse due to the fact that they gutted the roster for him and he couldn't co-exist with Amare Stoudemire, and when he got injured in 2011-12, Jeremy Lin carried them for a little bit. Other players returned from injury and played well alongside Lin, but Carmelo got jealous and even admitted that he didn't like the offense being run through Lin. He then went on to sabotage D'antoni's system (and Lin's 15 seconds of fame) by turning it into his usual iso ball offense (jab stepping at the 3-point line for 10 seconds after getting the ball). He made D'antoni step down, and couldn't get the Knicks to home court advantage in the playoffs. Then, next season, several veterans (Jason Kidd, Kurt Thomas, Rasheed Wallace, Marcus Camby, etc) showed up and carried the team, leading them to their best season in years, but when the playoffs came around, the old players were tired and Carmelo couldn't get the job done. They never made the playoffs again. Carmelo didn't (and doesn't) want to win. He just wanted to be in NY for the media attention and be in a low-pressure situation where he isn't expected to win. All the drama going on in 2016-17 and he seemed 100% ok with it. A sane player with a winning mentality would NOT want to be constantly questioned by the media after every game about the front office/team/coach drama. The media probably made him feel like a big shot by finding him after every game to ask him 1,000 times about the drama. Also, he refused to accept a better role for the team in OKC by coming off the bench because of his ego. So, to wrap this up, people probably don't like him because he is a proven loser who goes about as if he has won something in the NBA. He clashes with teammates, clashes with coaches, has NEVER added anything to his game, got fat & out of shape and took a ton of money to stay on a losing knicks team, just for that precious NY spotlight. He doesn't make anyone around him better, and his ego makes sure he doesn't make his team better. His game speaks for itself. Iso ball = all about Melo.
Honestly if you think about it i compare his career to dominique wilkins in their primes top picks of the litters they could never get over the hump an was stuck with even greater players to compete against.
Good vid . But yah can't compare his team success with wade , bosh and bron cuss 1 they alllll played together . It's not like they all had their own team's and won championships. They were with one another .
@CPH 83 He actually was pretty clutch in the gold medal game against Spain in 08. Kobe was just a cold blooded assassin that game and completely overshadowed him.
What most people don't realize is that when you're a star athlete, been winning since day one, making millions, *had* a hot wife, it's really difficult not to have an ego that huge. I mean come on, the people who hate him are literally nobody compared to him. I understand where he's coming from. But I do agree that he needs to take on a lesser role. But then again, when you've had that much good things going on for you, it's really hard to swallow your own pride.
Cream yeah around that time. Specifically when they were both first coming into the league. When their high school teams matched up, America was so fucking hyped.
Yeah, I remember those days. I was actually on board with Melo back then, hoping he would expand his game and remain equal with Lebron... but that never happened.
That Pacers team he lost to wasn’t weak/average Paul George Roy Hibbert at the time was Relevant David West George Hill Lance Stephenson Danny Granger a lot of other good role players as well
Not to get off topic here but I hate how they don't have the Nuggets FULL team in 2k18 historic teams! There's like only 7 usable guys on that team even my 2011 Bulls have the roster is missing smh
I haven't cared much for melo even when he was a nugget my reasoning is mainly his lack of defense or will to defend and that he doesn't make his team better...despite his near unstoppable offensive game
To me, Melo was never a top 5 guy in the NBA at any point of his career. There are always 5 guys that I can name better than him throughout his career. Better as in being impactful and elevating teammates. He draws hate because he thinks he was a top 5 guy in the league. I simply don't respect him because he scoffed at the bench role
Cliff Tsai “i don’t really care about somebody telling me how I think,” he said. “A lot of people that’s talking about me or has an opinion don’t really know who I am. Never talked to me before. Don’t know how I think. So, it’s funny to me to just hear a quote from somebody else saying: ‘He feels like this or he feels like that. And he should do this, or he should do that. Or he even said this or said that.'” -Carmelo Anthony
As a Denver Nuggets fan, I think his move to NY was the worse basketball decision for his career. If he would've stuck it out at least 1 more year in Denver (look at that roster in 09), the could have easily made another run for a 'ship then.
Melo has never been as good as advertised and has always been arrogant. From pushing for a trade from denver where the knicks traded all their assets just so he could sign a bigger contract extension. And turned down the chance to go to the bulls when he couldve helped them overcome the heat because he cared about his "business" in new york. And then not accepting that he isnt a superstar anymore and going to the bench. And turning up overweight when people from his same draft are staying healthy. Even a guy like Kyle Korver is fitter than him despite being older. The guy thinks he is lebron when hes no where near that level. And he never learned to play defense despite having the body to be a decent defender. If Melo was humble and didnt make everything about himself, he would be more liked. Dwyane wade is guy that is a winner (and a better player than Melo) and has taken paycuts and a lesser role to win. And he even went to the bench when his team asked him.
Okay but once melo got paid his demeanor dropped. His defense became lackluster and wants to iso and post up often. Melo also lost his mobility with the weight he put on and simply just didn’t evolve his game as he got older
As a fan of the Knicks and Lakers(Kobe got me into ball) since 2009 Carmelo Anthony in absolutely no regard was ever a bum he has had an extremely successful individual career. On the Knicks he was great for us for about 4 years before he started to diminish and he needs to realize he isn't 12-13 Melo anymore that's his one problem
Carmelo was one of my favorite players of the 2000's when he was on the Nuggets. Once he FORCED his way out, that's when I knew Melo wasn't gonna make it. He had two good seasons in New York, and after that he's been ass. Facts. Could have been on the Miami heat with BRON and WADE but he didn't want to take a lesser role to LeBron and to Wade. Melo is just selfish...and MOST IMPORTANTLY, the ball stops when it's in his hands. I just summed up why people don't fuck with Melo anymore.
I can’t hate melo since I been a fan since he was in college , but his performance been falling off I’m a knicks fan he messed us up a lot but also helped us just got payed to much money
I wouldn’t say I hate on him...more of a dislike. This sentiment I have felt even when he was with my New York Knicks. I was noticing his “black hole” ball hogging and disinterest in improving his game even then. I vividly remember talking to my friends about Melo’s shitty style of play as far back as 2013... When he got to NY, the media and fans were expecting him to be someone that would be able to be the #1 guy and turn the Knicks into conference contenders. I feel that he got too much hype and his career is a little overrated. All the hate now is because his deficiencies are so pronounce now that he’s out of his prime. He was never a good play-maker, horrible defender, and literally ball-hogged his teammates out of any rhythm. That’s not hate that’s the truth. #ThankGodHe’sOutOfNY
i think the vast majority of the hate comes from him playing with okc. anf i think it's really just him being used as a scapegoat. okc deserves criticism for losing like they did, and people are directing those feelings at melo, rather than the actual cause of okc's failure, westbrook's selfish play. westbrook can be great and plays in a very pleasant way for average fans. but westbrook whether consciously or not, actively ruins his team's play through his selfishness. melo's behavior felt like a strategic move more than anything to me personally. melo knows how to negotiate with teams, and how to throw teams leverage. and with the rockets he's never given the organization as much leverage over him, so i doubt he'll do much to rock the rockets' boat
Here is my take on the Carmelo Anthony hate.
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carmelo hate started with his role in pushing out jeremy lin from the knicks.
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Its dad cause he so good just selfish
Melo didn't do that there was a whole situation at that time, And plus that was when the knicks organization began to get fucked up terribly! So that was not Melo's fault
I've hated him all but three years of his career. Just because he scored in Denver doesn't mean he wasn't the same selfish, inefficient, overrated prick who showed himself in NY.
Carmelo Anthony does more jabsteps in one game than most players do in their entire career.
matthew concepcion 😂
matthew concepcion
It’s called Triple Threat moves.
Jordan and Kobe did them a lot too , Melo not gon work hard when it’s easy to win of 1st step to score .
Mr Spizite exactly
Mr Spizite the most effective triple threat move is a pass, and sadly melo is incapable of doing that.
matthew concepcion why aren't you in the NBA Lil Bitch? If you're so good why are you on TH-cam and not playing professional sports? I'll wait.....
You raised a very solid point in this video. People, especially newer basketball fans, just look at stats to determine how good a player is when they never watched a player play. That's why we have people like Nick Wright just looking a Kobe's field goal percentage and saying that he's inefficient. Kobe's playstyle, in which all of his shots are heavily contested and 80% of them perimeter shots, warrants a 45% career percentage. Saying people like Kobe and Dirk are way less efficient than LeBron is illogical because shot selection does matter. Comparing someone who takes predominantly perimeter shots to someone who shoots 60% of his shots in the paint is ridiculous. By that logic, DJ is more efficient that LeBron, even though 100% of his shots are dunks. People say Iverson shoots ridiculously low from the field, but given his teammates, he had to take a bunch of shots that were heavily contested. This happened in the 2015 finals when LeBron shot 39% because he had no help. He had great stats, but they weren't efficient. But we all know that his %s were warranted because he had no one around him. There has never been a roster that Melo had prior to last year where you can say, "That team should have won the conference" or "Melo had so much talent, his fg% shouldn't be that low". I swear, 90% of NBA twitter just use stats to say who's better.
Shoto T Kobe couldn’t get past his man otherwise he wouldn’t shoot dumb shots....
He obviously can. Just watch any Kobe highlight video. Curry takes dumb shots and he can blow by his man.
Gucci Slippers yea man. Because you get drafted out of high school for not being able to get past your man
Kobe was amazing but if 80% of the shots he took were heavily contested , as you proclaim, it's bad shot selection on his part so it should be criticized
Allan da Silva Costa 9/10 Kobe was a clutch shooter with him getting the ball in the last few seconds
Melo in his prime was amazing no one can deny that but now he really need to start to think like an efficient veteran role player that every team wants just like Vince Carter or Jamal Crawford
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I think he is still a starter level player. You just gotta use him right. He belongs in the post, then rarely stepping out for a open 3 once he cooks up. Not the other way around like in okc. If the rockets use him as a old man veteran post player, i think he will redeem himself.
You think he's not because of his attitude. But he has better numbers than those guys
da_jeezuss correct,The Thunder wasn’t using him right with westbrick bricking all the time passing out to the 3pt expecting him to make any off balanced shot being that last ditch effort at a score in a possession opposed to feeding the ball to him in the post like George did.
No one wants jamal crawford
Honestly, one thing that deminishes Melos legacy is that 66% of his playoff series wins are in 2009
3 playoff wins in his career, 2009: beat Hornets in 5, beat the Mavericks in 5, 2013: beat the Celtics in 6
People don't take into account his teams vs their opponents. He underrated the Clippers that year, and forgot JR Smith torpedo against the Pacers after he got suspended. JR was his 2nd or 3rd best player for like 5 years.
four twenty Melo buckets never go away , too 20 alltime scoring? The game about BUCKETS . That’s it.
@@Tyleranderman the game is about rings and championships that's it.
Yasir Abdilhakim And the most BUCKETS consistently wins that sooooo.
Like i said , it’s always will be about BUCKETS. Full teams an staffs get rings
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When we getting that D Wade video, Big homie?
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@@JustHeroic lol? Hes retiring this year. Washed up? Hes still beating GSW with clutch shots. Shut yo ass up
@@AK-cc6vt this was 6 months ago 😂😂😂 at the time he was washed up but now he is proving hr can ball
@@JustHeroic i know when this was. I can read. Thanks. Hes not proving shit. He hasn't played a game in the NBA for months; and there's a reason for that. He couldn't stay on a team with a coach that focuses HEAVILY on running offense powerhouses and that one of his friends are on. That should trll you that hes not good anymore.
Nah nobody really thought the Knicks were gonna make the conference finals. It was an Atlanta Hawks/Toronto Raptors type regular season. Pacers were gonna be a bad matchup for them
TM ENT in 2013 they did
Actually, in 2013, everyone already had the Knicks vs Heat in the ECF. The pacers were an unknown, the bulls were badly injured (as always), the nets choked (to the bulls, somehow), and the Celtics big 3 era was over. That left 2 teams, and one of them somehow choked.
The biggest problem with melo is he is living in the past, he still thinks he is a superstar and deserves a first option role but the truth is he’s a vet player that people are only gonna want so he can teach their young players and deliver solid numbers
I'm a huge Carmelo Anthony fan. He was my favorite player and he made me really get into the game of basketball. I owe that man more than he can ever know.
That said, Melo was the one of the most selfish players from his time w Nuggets-Knicks. Alot of his hate stems from the demanded trade and Jeremy Lin situation
I always refer to melo when he comes up as the curious case of melo career, he came in the game with a polished offensive game more than anyone in his draft class but I believe injuries that was never public hindered him if you play you can see his lateral movements just haven’t been the same in years. I could go on and on about this but dope commentary Dom.
Carmelo cares more about money and the spotlight than rings. But he was a great player in his prime no doubt.
Christian James shit Melo would’ve stayed with the Hawks, and never went to OKC if that was the case 😂 stop reaching
Mr Spizite Its kinda true. He wanted that Big city spotlight in NY. that's why it took him so long to waive that no trade clause to get off of the dysfunctional Knicks. He enjoyed that low pressure situation. The OKC move does kind of contradict that, but he has proven to be all about the money, and has the ego of a winner, when he hasn't done anything.
If he would have formed voltron with a contender in his prime for less money everyone would call him a bitch for doing it. Yall need to stop watching ESPN
Not true at all there's not even enough money in the world to please a man let alone one making millions. He's said it live to media all he wants from career is a ring. I think he's made that rumor pretty clear!
@@FAlynn92 Not true he stayed with the Knicks because he saw everything that happened to his buddy Lebron in Cleveland when he joined Miami and He didn't want that to happen to him nor did he want to let New York fans down. Plus "Big City Spotlight" if that was the case he would've went to the Lakers. Plus U can see now that New York excepted his decision he continues to come back because He feels welcome. Denver was Ungrateful.
He wasn't blessed with all-star teammates but he was always surrounded with good players and a great coach in George Karl during his stay in Denver. Their team was built like Dallas but never achieved anything.
U forget how Carmelo basicly couldn't let Lin shine smh RIP linsanity
Yep
I bash him simply because his pride that is all it’s like know yourself man
Thatguy Youdontknow That’s fucked up. Ppl just want him to be washed when he not in basketball reality
"All he wanted to do was score and make money" well i cant think of a better life
1:11 you just explained it in one sentence, you understand he is not a superstar, the people that are hating on him still see him as the New York player expecting as much of him.
Melo doesn't get the respect he deserves. As u mentioned , look at them teams in the west he was going against every year. Melo was one of the greatest scorers of all time. And for those of y'all who think he should come off the bench in Houston, y'all need to learn the game of basketball. Why would u bring him off the bench with eric Gordon who is already one of the best bench scorers in the league and is in the game to get buckets. If u do that melon won't be able to get in a rythym just like when he played with westbrook. He will fit in much better with a real point guard like cp3 who will set him up and feed him the rock unlike Westbrook who likes to chuck up 50 shots a game and pad his stats.
John Jackson Respect he deserves? 🤣😭😂 For going deep in playoffs like 2-3 times his whole career because of Billips and Kidd
Melo isn't the same and he still thinks he's the godlike scorer he used to be. I'm not on the hate train on his past he was a beast but with what he is now not playing defense still tryna be the iso king while being slow he needs to cut the ego come off the bench bust like 16-18 off the bench then sit down. He should not start unless he magically learns to play D because his offense isn't on the level of making it worth the trade.
I always question why players like Melo complain about a bench role... Youre getting 24-32 freaking minutes every night that you probably dont even deserve anyways
kidd never played with melo tf
GH07 KILLER Yah he did bro, he averaged 2ppg in 2013 bro dont u doubt bro without Kidd the Knicks wouldnt have evn maed the playofs
I wonder why nobody pulled his coat tail & let him know that no championship would hurt his career, but all his decisions are coming back to bite him...I think he has way too yes men around him, the game evolved & he didn't...
You made a lot of good points. One point you didn't mention is the lack of development/evolution to Melo's game. This is reflected in his I ain't coming off no bench mindset but I think it's huge in how he's been received. He's always been expected to be on par with Bron or at least 2nd to him in terms of on court performance. Coming off of that NCAA chip & the numbers he put up in year 1 the notion was pushed forward. It just seemed early on that Melo was most comfortable with where he was as a hooper than the others he was lumped with from his draft class. They all added to their games while he just refined what he naturally had. What he didn't become seems to be what pisses his fans/haters off the most.
9:00? No one was going to beat Golden State? The Rockets would have minus the injury of their best playoff player and floor general. Not to mention the historically bad shooting night that could have been avoided if CP3 was running the floor.
Thank You
AGuyNamedKevin so we just gonna ignore the fact of iguodala didn’t go down the series wouldn’t have went to 7
the warriors were huge favorites throughout the entire playoffs and season. the majority of nba fans werent expecting the rockets to actually win the series, although they did come close. but just because the rockets got close doesnt mean the warriors still werent the favorites to win the series anyway.
They were the favorites for sure that's not debatable. Iguodala is around the 6th best player on GS. Chris Paul in the playoffs was the best player for Houston, non-comparable.
AGuyNamedKevin the thing was steph and Durant were starting to choke and if it weren’t for Andre leading that second unit they would have most likely lost
One of the coolest/creative openings I've seen in a minute
during 2006 to 2010 most of my classmates had PG/SG as their favourite player, someone likes Tmac, someone likes Kobe, someone likes Arenas and for me is Nash.
There's actually one guy who thought Billups was the best player and played like him, another one was AI's no.1 fan but played like Ray Allen.
The day when Billups/Iverson trade happened, both of them cried saying it's the worst trade.
Then it turned out Denver became scary in the playoffs while Detroit totally irrelevant since.
In my memory watching nba everyday since 2004, Anthony's best time was only with Billups, not that 2013 playoff run. Besides 2009 & 2010 playoffs, his team looked to get destroyed every time.
Melo was good in a time were there was no great spacing, shooting guards had to creat, he molded his game in these conditions, its hard to change that, especially for someone not that smart like Melo.
I looked up Melo stats last season he shot 45% from the field and 35% from 3 he not 40% as you stated in your video he averaged 16ppg as a 4th not a 3rd option he was rated better defensively then that of a PJ Tucker and Gerald Green who people are saying should start over him for defense Melo is placed under a microscope so all his mistakes and missteps are more noticed you can literally place any player under the same microscope and notice the same flaws and mistakes in their games no Melo is a star any longer yes he wasted his prime cause he didn't see how the league was changing beneath his feet in enough time but he doesn't deserve all the extra shit he gets how do you blame a 4th option for the fall of a team who's leader was literally the worst player on his on team and got worked by a rookie how is that the 4th options fault the outcome would have been the same if he came off the bench people just hate to admit the truth when the Rockets fall short this year Melo has already been set up to be the scapegoat excuse even tho the Rockets haven't been to the NBA finals since the 90s and fall short every season he shot 40% in the playoffs because he was used as a shot clock bail out option not in his proper context
Spoke it into existence
Punctuation?
3:09 Knicks won 54 games that season.
I don't know where he got 60 from
Before joining okc the man averaged 22 points like he just had one bad season
The Melo hate is obviously cause of his damn ego. If he just said, "Yeah I'll come off the bench if it helps my team" fans wouldn't grill him so hard. The man's obv not a starter anymore and needs to accept that fact, he's just jab-steppin his teams out of contention rn
That's the problem . Yah know the thunder never asked him to come off the bench right ? Like that shit never happened 😂. The media guy asked him when he 1st got to okc and during his exit interview. He was never asked by the team to play ah being role . Ever wonder why it was so easy for him to except the role I'm Houston so quickly? Cause they asked. Okc never asked him to play off the bench
Very fair take on the Melo situation I think.
he did play defense, and his shots weren't open. i watched every game. his catch and shoot shots were forced and always contested.
Carmelo is hated by his old haters that couldn't say anything two or three years before because he was great or by kids that started watching basketball last year and don't know shit about him
or, people that see he is a detriment to his teams and cares about how many points he can average more than team success. OR someone who has not added anything to his game since he was a rookie? OR someone who feuds with coaches and teammates who steal his shine (lin, Iverson, stoudemire, George Karl, made d'antoni step down)? OR it could be that he chose to stay on a dysfunctional losing team for more money, rather than trying to put forth effort to win? but nah, just call them haters for no reason.
@@FAlynn92 you can't say that he is a detriment to his teams because of two relatively bad seasons the knicks or nuggets haven't got enough succes since he left . He is 33 years old so he is naturally declining in his prime he was a decent defender and was better and better at scoring so it's false to say that he didn't add anything to his game . He chose money over winning but that was good for the knicks because it made the relevant to the league and the market. About feuds I don't know
The nuggets were still a good team the next 3 seasons after he left. They didn't drop off until 2014. Decent is about the best his defense ever was. Getting better at scoring doesn't add anything else to your game. He still isn't/wasn't a defender, rebounder, passer, playmaker, etc. And his style of offense is very discouraging to his teammates, who often get caught ball watching because they don't expect to get the ball after he jab steps 1000 times (detriment). His style of play discourages his teammates on both ends. Him choosing money over winning wasn't really good for the knicks. If anything, it stopped them from getting any other players to put around him. and the Knicks would be "relevant" with or without him, seeing as they are a NYC team, which always get attention just because.
@@FAlynn92 his playstyle is isolation since when isolation is bad ? Kobe did it Iveron did it etc many of his teamates weren't even that good so iso was necessary . Also being a decent defender isn't bad you can see that he gives a hard time to Kobe on highlights
+Cream Since he's so detrimental, how many playoff series have Denver won since he left? Who took Denver to the playoffs every season after not making it for 8 straight seasons before he got there? Who made New York an instant playoff team in 2011? Who won New York their first series win in 13 years? I guess not Melo, since he's so detrimental to his teams.
Please make more of these vids Dom! My favorite series on your second channel
I still remember the SLAM magazine cover of Melo on some skyscraper roof in NYC with the Empire State Building and it said something like “King of the Big Apple” on it. Everybody was thinking he’d make them a contender.
Thx for giving more info on Carmelo Anthony and having more conversation with my pops
In 2012-13 Knicks won 54 games I pretty sure. So they weren’t as good as a 60 win team
Tim Fencel Not to mention majority of them where in their 30s
I had no idea he had two channels
Melo wasnt just top 5 at one time, people were talking about him being the best player behind Lebron for a bit, and at least top 3
I’m a Knick fan and a die hard melo fan 😭 he’s my favorite player
Ohhh yeeaahhh love the barbershop talk content
As a die hard Knick fan it is hard not to point a finger at JR Smith for them losing to the pacers in 2013. JR just wasn’t himself after he got suspended in the first round. Then the next year the Phil Jackson era came in during the 2014 season and well that was awful. Once the Knicks got Andrea Barngani it was game over for Melo and the knicks
People hate on carmelo but you have to respect what he has done for team USA
You always showing facts every video😉
Good video. Buuut...Why not call this “Fresh Cuts” or something instead of Barbershop Talk? Barbershop Talk just sounds like a lot of other podcasts and stuff, like that Alabama one and 2K and do many other shows.
Just my 2 Cents.
Man that intro is dope 🔥
he was inefficient
played no defense
not a great shooter
not a good passer
People talk about players who "make everyone better".... Carmelo couldn't even make himself better, lol
100% agreed. a one-dimensional player who never added anything to his game. Too lazy to defend, doesn't pass, make plays, rebound consistently, etc. Just jab-steps.
exactly
He was a pretty good shooter, cmon
How is 45% inefficient
Melo had a SQUAD on the knicks, a decent lil group on the nuggets, & was ass in OKC. So I hear you, but I’m not hearing it.
Melo nowadays has an extreme amount of NBA mileage on him, along with his ego can make a locker room poisonous.
Basically, Melo is a rust bucket version of himself.
Jr smith is the reason they lost to the pacers. And the pacers took the heat to 7 that year
Coolhands444 Melo didn’t play well down the stretch of that series if I remember. Refusing to pass the ball when other guys were hot, horrible on-ball defense (like always).
People weren't hot b
Edgar Gordillo nope melo was the only one hot jr choked amare choke and got eaten alive by david west kidd missed last 30 shots of his career shumpert wasn’t the same after injury and woodson took novak melo’s favorite target (54% of melo’s passes) out of rotation
Edgar Gordillo he held pg to 18 ppg on 37% from the field yu clearly didn’t watch that series
Edgar Gordillo you clearly don't remember. The exact opposite of that happened.
I like how people hate on melo but in the playoffs pg and russ didn’t perform that good in the playoffs russ had 46 on like 18 for 43 and pg shot 2 for 16 in game 6
Tyler Jones that’s because okc was +14.2 with wb and pg on the floor and -8.7 with melo on the court during the 1st rd
I don't think anyone is "hating on" him. Besides, he also underperformed in the playoffs. Deflecting to PG & Westbrook doesn't change that
eliteplaymakerEO shit my eyes aint see plus shit
But what did Carmelo do?
OG Lamont take all the blame while russ took all the shots nd played the same typa defense
loved when u talked about this when u were streaming Uncharted
11:45 gIvE tHaT gUy a mAaAAaaaP
The hate that Carmelo gets comes from... I'm not sure tbh. I guess people don't see him as a winner, or someone who WANTS to win? He couldn't work alongside Iverson in Denver, he forced his way off of a pretty decent Nuggets team to go to a worse Knicks team, which he made even worse due to the fact that they gutted the roster for him and he couldn't co-exist with Amare Stoudemire, and when he got injured in 2011-12, Jeremy Lin carried them for a little bit. Other players returned from injury and played well alongside Lin, but Carmelo got jealous and even admitted that he didn't like the offense being run through Lin. He then went on to sabotage D'antoni's system (and Lin's 15 seconds of fame) by turning it into his usual iso ball offense (jab stepping at the 3-point line for 10 seconds after getting the ball). He made D'antoni step down, and couldn't get the Knicks to home court advantage in the playoffs. Then, next season, several veterans (Jason Kidd, Kurt Thomas, Rasheed Wallace, Marcus Camby, etc) showed up and carried the team, leading them to their best season in years, but when the playoffs came around, the old players were tired and Carmelo couldn't get the job done. They never made the playoffs again. Carmelo didn't (and doesn't) want to win. He just wanted to be in NY for the media attention and be in a low-pressure situation where he isn't expected to win. All the drama going on in 2016-17 and he seemed 100% ok with it. A sane player with a winning mentality would NOT want to be constantly questioned by the media after every game about the front office/team/coach drama. The media probably made him feel like a big shot by finding him after every game to ask him 1,000 times about the drama. Also, he refused to accept a better role for the team in OKC by coming off the bench because of his ego. So, to wrap this up, people probably don't like him because he is a proven loser who goes about as if he has won something in the NBA. He clashes with teammates, clashes with coaches, has NEVER added anything to his game, got fat & out of shape and took a ton of money to stay on a losing knicks team, just for that precious NY spotlight. He doesn't make anyone around him better, and his ego makes sure he doesn't make his team better. His game speaks for itself. Iso ball = all about Melo.
Cream big ass L
Honestly if you think about it i compare his career to dominique wilkins in their primes top picks of the litters they could never get over the hump an was stuck with even greater players to compete against.
who here after he just got signed
melo cant be overrated if everyone hates him
We need more barbershop talk videos
So Many great points here but just ONE QUESTION..... WHY DO YOU PLAY CPU DEFENSE :(
Always thought Melo was a beast, he just doesn't play winning basketball.
Good vid . But yah can't compare his team success with wade , bosh and bron cuss 1 they alllll played together . It's not like they all had their own team's and won championships. They were with one another .
Melo got a gold medal though
So does Christian Laettner
Ahmad Hussain WHO FUCKING CARES. A GOLD MEDAL AINT SHIT COMPARED TO A NBA CHAMPIONSHIP PERIOD
gold medals dont mean anything when you play for team usa/the warriors
@CPH 83 He actually was pretty clutch in the gold medal game against Spain in 08.
Kobe was just a cold blooded assassin that game and completely overshadowed him.
@CPH 83 In the grand scheme of things, yes.
He didnt laugh at coming off the bench this year, he's actually accepting it.
I remember people used to argue who would finish their career with more rings; melo or lebron
Intro tough 🗣😈😂
What most people don't realize is that when you're a star athlete, been winning since day one, making millions, *had* a hot wife, it's really difficult not to have an ego that huge. I mean come on, the people who hate him are literally nobody compared to him. I understand where he's coming from. But I do agree that he needs to take on a lesser role. But then again, when you've had that much good things going on for you, it's really hard to swallow your own pride.
Love your videos
The 2010 Jazz loss is inexcusable. Any great player with Denver's supporting cast would not have lost that game
I remember the days when Melo and Lebron were seen as equals
2006?
Cream yeah around that time. Specifically when they were both first coming into the league. When their high school teams matched up, America was so fucking hyped.
Yeah, I remember those days. I was actually on board with Melo back then, hoping he would expand his game and remain equal with Lebron... but that never happened.
I hate him cause of his role in getting Jeremy Lin traded from the Knicks.
Aye P They Said I gotta Come Off The Bench
That beat in the begging is the one
That Pacers team he lost to wasn’t weak/average Paul George Roy Hibbert at the time was Relevant David West George Hill Lance Stephenson Danny Granger a lot of other good role players as well
Not to get off topic here but I hate how they don't have the Nuggets FULL team in 2k18 historic teams! There's like only 7 usable guys on that team even my 2011 Bulls have the roster is missing smh
Gang Gang 💪🏽
I haven't cared much for melo even when he was a nugget my reasoning is mainly his lack of defense or will to defend and that he doesn't make his team better...despite his near unstoppable offensive game
It started with melo killing linsanity
What happened to the 'LINSANITY' era during the Knicks? Exactly.... Carmelo Anthony
Damn don u gotta shade my wiz like that 😫😫😫😫🤣
Melo Walks It Like He Talks It. He doesn't give a shit about what anyone says about him lmao
Late behind notification 😂
I respect this video anybody who think he was just trash go watch his mix
Damn really had to do my wizards like that though :/
To me, Melo was never a top 5 guy in the NBA at any point of his career. There are always 5 guys that I can name better than him throughout his career. Better as in being impactful and elevating teammates. He draws hate because he thinks he was a top 5 guy in the league. I simply don't respect him because he scoffed at the bench role
Cliff Tsai foh
@@knickstealeyedye7625 great argument.
Cliff Tsai “i don’t really care about somebody telling me how I think,” he said. “A lot of people that’s talking about me or has an opinion don’t really know who I am. Never talked to me before. Don’t know how I think. So, it’s funny to me to just hear a quote from somebody else saying: ‘He feels like this or he feels like that. And he should do this, or he should do that. Or he even said this or said that.'”
-Carmelo Anthony
Can someone link me the intro song
Look in the description
J.R Probably gave Melo some that henny
As a Denver Nuggets fan, I think his move to NY was the worse basketball decision for his career. If he would've stuck it out at least 1 more year in Denver (look at that roster in 09), the could have easily made another run for a 'ship then.
Melo has never been as good as advertised and has always been arrogant. From pushing for a trade from denver where the knicks traded all their assets just so he could sign a bigger contract extension. And turned down the chance to go to the bulls when he couldve helped them overcome the heat because he cared about his "business" in new york.
And then not accepting that he isnt a superstar anymore and going to the bench. And turning up overweight when people from his same draft are staying healthy. Even a guy like Kyle Korver is fitter than him despite being older.
The guy thinks he is lebron when hes no where near that level. And he never learned to play defense despite having the body to be a decent defender. If Melo was humble and didnt make everything about himself, he would be more liked. Dwyane wade is guy that is a winner (and a better player than Melo) and has taken paycuts and a lesser role to win. And he even went to the bench when his team asked him.
well said
People need to understand that some people are in the NBA for the money, and its ok, I see no problem with that
Won a high school and a college championship plus some gold medals he is not overrated
Carmelo's entire career would have been saved imo if he was drafted by the Pistons.
Melo in the BEST position to ball tf out. All this hate need to be in the tank lol 😂
Okay but once melo got paid his demeanor dropped. His defense became lackluster and wants to iso and post up often. Melo also lost his mobility with the weight he put on and simply just didn’t evolve his game as he got older
As a fan of the Knicks and Lakers(Kobe got me into ball) since 2009 Carmelo Anthony in absolutely no regard was ever a bum he has had an extremely successful individual career. On the Knicks he was great for us for about 4 years before he started to diminish and he needs to realize he isn't 12-13 Melo anymore that's his one problem
Carmelo was one of my favorite players of the 2000's when he was on the Nuggets. Once he FORCED his way out, that's when I knew Melo wasn't gonna make it. He had two good seasons in New York, and after that he's been ass. Facts. Could have been on the Miami heat with BRON and WADE but he didn't want to take a lesser role to LeBron and to Wade. Melo is just selfish...and MOST IMPORTANTLY, the ball stops when it's in his hands. I just summed up why people don't fuck with Melo anymore.
I can’t hate melo since I been a fan since he was in college , but his performance been falling off I’m a knicks fan he messed us up a lot but also helped us just got payed to much money
I get on melo solely cuz of how he acts like he’s still a superstar when he’s putting up bench player numbers
I wouldn’t say I hate on him...more of a dislike.
This sentiment I have felt even when he was with my New York Knicks. I was noticing his “black hole” ball hogging and disinterest in improving his game even then. I vividly remember talking to my friends about Melo’s shitty style of play as far back as 2013...
When he got to NY, the media and fans were expecting him to be someone that would be able to be the #1 guy and turn the Knicks into conference contenders. I feel that he got too much hype and his career is a little overrated. All the hate now is because his deficiencies are so pronounce now that he’s out of his prime. He was never a good play-maker, horrible defender, and literally ball-hogged his teammates out of any rhythm. That’s not hate that’s the truth. #ThankGodHe’sOutOfNY
54 wins and no was expecting Knicks vs heat in 2013 Knicks melo jr shump then everybody is 35+
i think the vast majority of the hate comes from him playing with okc. anf i think it's really just him being used as a scapegoat. okc deserves criticism for losing like they did, and people are directing those feelings at melo, rather than the actual cause of okc's failure, westbrook's selfish play.
westbrook can be great and plays in a very pleasant way for average fans. but westbrook whether consciously or not, actively ruins his team's play through his selfishness.
melo's behavior felt like a strategic move more than anything to me personally. melo knows how to negotiate with teams, and how to throw teams leverage. and with the rockets he's never given the organization as much leverage over him, so i doubt he'll do much to rock the rockets' boat
I’m to old for bashing a player but am still in 20s 😂😂😂