GR86 Fake Engine Sound On/Off Comparison
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 25 ส.ค. 2024
- I made a toggle switch to turn on/off the fake engine sound (ASC=active sound control) on the fly. Check out their differences in this clip. The test is done in Track mode. I actually liked the fake engine sound better. Which one do you prefer?
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By far the best video showing the differences. Great work bro!
Sounds better natural. Having just changed the exhaust on my BRZ to a quieter one, I now appreciate the smooth mechanical noise my engine makes without all that noisy roar getting in the way.
You went from stock to an even quieter exhaust? Do you live in a senior community or what?
@@Heinousness I commute 80 miles a day. A loud exhaust soon gets on your wick, believe me. I love that I can hear the engine.
What exhaust did you put?
@@Teefs143 I wanted to retain good flow for the supercharger but get the noise down, so I had a Hayward & Scott stainless steel bespoke exhaust made with large silencer and twin Helmholtz resonators. It flows so well my power was slightly increased, too.
@@martinwtaylor interesting, you're BRZ is 2022 with 2.4L right? Never seen it with supercharger. How much hp it got?
Excellent job on this demo!
My preference is all natural. You want more volume, maybe an exhaust or intake to achieve that.
all fake engine noise should be a button you can toggle just like that! maddening it's not setup that way from the factory.
I wouldn't want to be driving around hearing that noise, but if I was on a track, hearing your engine can be helpful for gear changes without looking at the tach so I think it would be a good idea to have it on.
Same how i felt about the induction sound tube in the first gen. Annoying on the street, but useful at the track.
Best video comparison I've seen - thank you!!! For what it's worth, I think we ALL want more sound at SOME points while driving. The ASC is no different than adding an aftermarket or GR Perf exhaust, but has the upshot of being able to be turned on/off or be louder in track mode than regular driving, and not attracting unwanted attention/waking the neighbors. That's why I'll probably leave mine on and not spend the money on an exhaust. People who don't like the particular sound of the ASC are fine to say so, but they could just as easily be dissatisfied with a particular aftermarket exhaust. There's no guarantee that any sound will please all. Regardless, I do think Toyota should make it a toggle switch like yours so no one needs to fuss either way :). Keep it up!
Wow I had no idea it was actually so prominent. I wondered why these sounded so different on video than my old zn6 BRZ. Great job on the video man.
This is dope dude. I’d love to learn more about how you did this. I saw some of the other DIY things you’ve done on the GR86 as well.
Thanks for this. This is the first video where I can actually hear a difference. I like it better with ASC off. Thanks!!!
Do you have a vid showing how you set that toggle up? That's awesome.
Perfect comparison video thank you! I actually think it’s neat that the car has that “fake” noise added, idk. I appreciate the little things that add for a nice rewarding experience I guess.
And this is how a comparison video is done.
GREAT demonstration. This will help new enthusiasts understand why the sound is disliked over the natural engine sounds, even if on the quieter side.
However, it would be fun to see what savvy techs can do with the speaker and modifications. There are a lot of quirky things you can do with it.. say for example swapping it for a Pac Man wakka wakka sound.
yeh, something like simulating F1 car downshift noise would be cool
@@TrackandBuild is it actually possible to upload your own engine sound?
@@Briguy288 probably not but you can create your own ASC unit to play whatever based on the car input signals (throttle, brake, and etc)
It's a great video, but its disliked because that's the popular thing to say...its a social media cliche honestly. For NEW enthusiasts leaving it on so they can hear the engine better makes more sense, because regardless most people are supplementing the lack of ASC with a louder exhaust so they can hear it inside. For someone not doing that just leave it....
@ftr911drvr not entirely true, I disliked mine because I could sense the lag of the timing for the fake noise and it would throw my shifts off. I turned it off and put a louder exhaust on and now I don't mess up shifts like I used to
Thanks so much for this video, I'm looking to get a compact fun car for my daily commute, problem is 80% of it is freeway driving, which is why i had doubts about the GR86 as it doesn't have proper sound insulation, but with the ASC disabled it's quiet enough for me (I'm coming from Mustangs and an SRT Jeep)
Best comparison yet. Really appreciate it. Having dealer turn mine off at delivery now! 🤘🏻
Loved it! Can you please give us a manual on you built in the switch?
Nice work on this! I might do the same.
This is legit. Thanks for sharing!!
Thanks for video comparison!
With the sound on is how my celica 3sge sounds 😍
As a fan of quieter in-cabin sound, I am most likely going to turn it off - despite liking how it sounds in general, the comfort and being able to hear music without increasing the volume too much is a good benefit
Wish we could have this toggle from factory. That way I would disable this horrible fake sound for everything other than track driving. That’s the only place where it’s useful.
i wish every car came with an on and off button
Nice demo
Yooo this is sick. At first I thought this might be an auto feature but was proven wrong the second you shifted. How did you manage to do this? Did you splice a switch into the ASC module power/ground circuit or something?
yes, like you said exactly
@@TrackandBuild Please do a how to video
@@TrackandBuild Could you please make a video on how to do it? I need to do this on my brz! :)
ACS sounds good.
Thank you!!!
test drove one today (might get one soon) and until 4-5k revs i think you don't really notice the fake sound
tho if i get one i'd love to turn it off too
Awesome!!
Did you use the red 12v wire or the brown ignition signal ?
Update: the red wire did NOT work, but the brown (ignition) did !
I wish the road noise was fake and could be turned off. I think they only put in the fake engine sounds ti minimize the road noise.
If you take it out of track mode, is ASC off totally or just quieter?
in normal mode, ASC is just quieter
I am super curious about your ASC toggle switch... Did you just tap this in-line with the harness on the passenger side?
yes exactly:)
@@TrackandBuild Thanks! That gives me some good ideas (or bad ideas if you ask my wife).
Would you consider posting a DIY video with the details. ASC switch is an excellent idea and should be a good video.
THANK YOUUUUU
Man why couldn't they have done that from the start? You want to peacefully cruise, turn off the extra noise, you want to hear your engine louder for some reason turn it on, everyone's happy.
Ngl instead of switching it, I'd straight up unplug it from the ECM and that's it
Absolutely hate the fake noise.
I think ASC sounds okay, but the volume is too high. It wouldn't be something that I could deal on at that volume.
This is my problem too. I disabled it because it was too loud and obtrusive. However, if I could modulate it to 50% or "Off" as needed like some Lexus models, I wouldn't have messed with disabling it completely.
I was wondering what asc was, I have an option to turn it off in the 2023 Brz, going to be shutting it off for sure now
Damn how can i make a switch for my ASC
Sounds kinda good lol
How did you add the on/pff switch?
Can you tell us exactly which wire you switched? Looks like there are multiple wires in that ASC harness.
Sounds like the gt86 without fake noises
Do you set up the switch by yourself? Or it has some default setting to change it?
deffo sounds best without it on
Is it stock on/off button or you did it from yourself?
What was your process for this? Did you add a switch to the harness? Or is this done through ECU control? Or something else?
Yes it's just a switch to the wire
Is this how it sounds on the inside or outside too
It becomes a very good daily driver without that ridiculous ASC
fake engine noise sounds good
Was it difficult to install? Im looking to replace it like that
It's a great video, but its disliked because that's the popular thing to say...its a social media cliche honestly. It's like all the popular TH-cam videos saying only buy Manual cars but they drive autos .... For NEW enthusiasts leaving it on so they can hear the engine better makes more sense, because regardless most people are supplementing the lack of ASC with a louder exhaust so they can hear it inside. For someone not doing that just leave it....
I kinda feel weird that I seem like the only person who doesn't really mind the fake sound on mine😬lol
Much much better without the lame video game sound, even if it is quieter it's more "mechanical".
I’m new to Subaru engine so I wasn’t familiar with the noise from the flat 4 engines. But boy, the FA24 sounds so rough all the time. It sounds like something is loose at idle with some clicking noise. And at lower rpm in 1st or 2nd gear while acceleration it sounds like something is rattling from the engine bay. There is another sort of vibrating type noise at full throttle at higher rpm. Basically it always sounds broken to me in the GR86. With the stories out there about blown engines, I’m very nervous half the time driving the GR86.
I might be the only one that doesn’t mind the sound haha
i don't mind ASC also lol it's honestly not loud to the annoying level
natural sounds wayyy better. like don’t know why they decided to make the fake engine noise
Just picked up a manual BRZ a few days ago, and swear it doesn't have the fake engine noise by default. Can anyone confirm if it's suppose to come on at certain RPM? Or do you have to press the accelerator all the way down? So far I've been driving below 4,000 RPM (but still quite fast a few times), and don't think I've heard it once.
I can hear lots of random road noises, the sound of the gears, and the engine noise reminds me exactly of a manual NA Impreza (sounds like mini-tractor). Don't think I've heard any Gran Turismo 2 engine noises yet. The only other BRZ I ever drove was the auto BRZ at the dealer many months back for the test drive, and that one 100% had the fake engine noises.
It'll only be audible once you're over 4000rpm - once you're out of the break-in period and it's safe to start beating on the car, definitely do some pulls in it and you'll be able to hear it more clearly.
@@JDMFlipFlops okay thanks for the info. I was wondering if it was 4000rpm. Nice to have it confirmed!
I could definitely hear it before 4000 rpms. It’s very noticeable. Disabled mine today
@@timmcintire9402 Kind of strange as I can't hear it below 4,000rpm. Maybe I've been driving too much like a granny though hehe. I'm certain I have it, and I will probably deactivate it the moment I actually hear it after break-in.
EDIT: You know for a thought experiment. I should just open it up now, and pull the wires, even while still driving below 4000rpm, and see if I can notice the difference. I'll do it this weekend.
@@Jez4prez1 or it just doesn't bother you, I think some of the reactions to it are pretty dramatic honestly
I have a 17 brz and deleted sound generator with Mishimoto. For the last generation, we had to buy hose. No switch on/off
Do you know if the speaker used under the glovebox is dedicated to the fake sound or is it also used for the ICE? If it’s purely for the fake engine noise, you could sound proof the actual speaker with sound deadening to suite your taste, or does it come from all the other speakers too?
I think it's a dedicated speaker behind the console for the fake engine noise. You probably could tweak it to control the volume but I haven't tried
@@TrackandBuild I think that would be the a simple way to control the sound, access to it I imagine would be difficult, or you identify the speaker output wires from the sound generator and attenuate the volume it through a speaker volume control box, a physical volume controller wired inline from the generator to the actual speaker, then you can adjust to suit individual taste
Excuse the grammar, it’s late
@@johnybigarms Yes, I think others also mentioned the idea. It might work!
@@TrackandBuild Did you find evidence of that speaker, or are you just guessing? I was thinking that maybe part of the sound module wiring harness/connector is a simple speaker output, but it looks tricky to put a scope on it and look for things that seem audio-like. Somehow I think it's part of the CAN bus in the car, and may be piping (digital) sound to the main stereo/audio unit of the car. That's just a gut feel, no actual evidence on my part. I WISH it were a speaker somewhere, because then it should be fairly easily to get a variable attenuator of some sort and control volume to wherever one likes it. Even better, low-pass filter it so that you only get the low notes, since IMO that's the best part of the added fakery, since the car doesn't inherently (stock) have much deep to it.
do you think putting a volume knob in line would work?
I did not try that but it might work!
Which wire did you tap into, what color is it? Thanks
Here's a document with the pinout docs.google.com/document/d/1369m2NF14v76D-8E0EwOBejsj2yOJVyvgjNiU5J297o/edit#heading=h.rguruzk1rs0o
@@TrackandBuild Thank you so much, this is fantastic and very detailed
if only the fake sound use the rod knock sound,or valve rattling sound, add more adrenaline in every condition
Sounds better without it honestly
Is there a downside to the fake sound?
I mean wouldn't this help you being able to shift gears by listening?
And with the fake sound you can get the benefits of that without having to have an overwhelmingly loud car
I mean obviously if the fake sound sounds nothing like the real sound then yes that is dishonest but otherwise, isn't it good overall?
I personally prefer the fake sound
You're right. It gets a lot of hate but it's a not bad solution to "me want vroom vroom real loud" without making the car deafening to everyone around you. If it keeps even one kid from drilling holes in his muffler it's probably worth including in cars.
But I do wish it was on a switch like this. Cruising with a passenger on a long drive I want it off for sure. But going for a fun driving session I might want it on instead
Might be a silly question but I plan on keeping mine stock. Is there a way to actually increase the ASC sound?
not that I know. ASC is louder in track mode than in normal mode though
@@TrackandBuild can track mode be used for daily driving? Or does it loosen the grip on the road?
@@JamesTonerUSA i always have it on with sport mode u should be good
@@JamesTonerUSA I think track mode just disables ESC and TCS, so you will actually gain more usable grip from the chassis, but also if you make a mistake and slide it won't help you out any.
They should install this on Teslas
The fake sound is not that bad, imo.
My 2015 Mini F56 JCW also has fake sound and i prefer it on. I have coded it out with Beamercode but i have put it on again because i missed the fake sound : ))))
In the future we will accept fake sound from EV's i guess.
Nah it's pretty bad
No the fuck we won’t
No
Can you post a diy?
Yeah that would be cool
I did not film while doing this one. Definitely will post when possible
@@TrackandBuild ty!
@@TrackandBuild Yup, please tell us which wire you're "switching" that is not throwing a code.
@@robertpeet1360 simply add a toggle switch on the ignition wire of the ASC unit and you got it
What’s the sound when you make a hard right turn at high speed and the oil pressure drops
ASC sounds like GT4
Bruh. I don’t know if it sounds bad over the camera but the BRZ/GR86 sounds awful with the fake noise. They should have never added it. 😢
it may sound louder in the camera due to the mic position.
Off may be better
central expwy LOL
Wtf the car comes with fake engine sounds?? For what
Sounds better fake, sounds like a sport bike.
As much as I hate to admit it, fake sounds better. 🤷♂️
My GR86 doesnt scream like that at all😂. Maybe they tuned it differently for Germany.
I put the mic close to the glove box so it sounds louder
That is the worst fake sound ever. Even Gran Turismo 1 sounded more realistic.
So pathetic that we’ve come to a point where vehicles come with a fake sound option..
Can it get any more fake? I belive toyota will soon make a car that wont ride but just makes wheels look like they are turing😂
Wait, that's my route to work lol. I work at Rivian.
Real engine noise is better. Disconnected mine day 1.
The fake engine noise sounds so incredibly bad
It's like before and after having a cold air intake
yeah definitely not gonna buy a gr86 anymore
Sounds like sht either way…lol
Wow it sounds so awful. Like, cool, put in some fake engine noise if you want to Toyota, but at least make it sound like a real engine and not a vacuum cleaner.
Noise does not equal power. I hope everyone with loud pipes gets an hour of sleep before their next super important meeting or evaluation.
Piped in fake sound just proves my point; it’s mental, get over it
wow this is actually a thing...
Getting M2 Comp vibes from this. Horrible.
after this vid i am even happyer that i had decided me for the ND MX5. After the change of the exhaust its so satisfiying. this here is synthetic bullshit!
what cringe is this