Might I seriously recommend that you research standard military ordinance if you are coming across that many. Just for your own sake that you can know which to move and which to leave a Marker at. 🤗
That is crazy . I’m surprised they didn’t go looking around that same area for more to be on the safe side . I guess that gives you something to go searching for again😊 Be safe and thank you for all you do .
You did a great job as you always do when it comes to handling situations like this. Yes that would be cool but don't put your life in danger if it can be prevented. Have a great and safe day @ DALLMYD
If you find ordnance again - don't touch it!! Even after decades - you might find out they still work perfectly. A few years ago - a professional EOD tech got killed here in Germany by a WW2 bomb. These grenades won't take down the bridge - but they could rip you to pieces easily. Stay safe!!
I am a former military bomb disposal specialist. That is an artillery round, not a mortar or bomb. It has also been fired out of an artillery tube already. You can determine that it has been fired out of a tube because the brass ring towards the base is smeared with the grooves of the barrel rifling. A round that hasn't been shot would have a smooth brass ring. And yes, these are incredibly dangerous. Don't touch it! Mark near the location (not the actual device) then call the police.
In your opinion, how do you think these got to this point? Is it possible over time they traveled down the stream? They're all just so close together makes you wonder. Why they are there, who shot them, and how long ago they were shot.
is it a 109mm or some 75mm ? i say sherman 75mm he. hope fully training ammo which someone dug out of a training area and later someone dumped them there coz of fear of police action wehn you bring them in
What do you think is the reason for them to not have exploded? I see you think somebody tossed them in, so is it possible that they were all duds somebody collected and failed to handle approprietly?
My takeaways from this video: 1) Fishing is an expensive hobby. 2) If I need a new phone, check the local river. 3) If I'm looking for a stolen bike or scooter, check the local river. 4) If doing either #1, #2, or #3, try not to explode.
Those are artillery rounds for a WW1-era French 75mm cannon. It was the standard field artillery piece used by France and adopted by the US Army. Hundreds of millions of shells were manufactured. The driving band (the brass ring at the base) is a dead giveaway (most driving bands are solid rings without grooves). In addition, these should be considered extremely dangerous. The conical brass part on top is the fuze. (French 75mm ammunition was manufactured with fuzes attached to the shells, so they could be easily uncrated and fired in battle. Most artillery shells --and certainly all modern shells--are manufactured and shipped with the fuzes separate from the shells, adding a step to the pre-firing process but reducing the risk of accidental detonation in transit and handling.) The fuzes have built in safety features to prevent accidental detonation (and surely decades under water has negated some of the reactivity of the explosive primer). But still, you'd definitely want to handle with care. (I'd have left them alone underwater. Take photos and let the bomb disposal team do the job.)
As a former bomb technician, these appear to be WW1 era 75 mm shrapnel rounds with black powder fuzes. Fairy safe to transport, but still holding aged explosives inside. You did the right thing to notify police, but they could use a quick class from their local bomb squad. 😋
@@PbsMks damn they look pretty modern for a ww1 shell, doesnt look like it can be recessed in a cassing as older shells were, this shell looks like the modern ones we load in 2 separated pieces.
For starters, it's 'fairly,' not 'fairy.' Also, no, you shouldn't transport explosives from a lake. If you're a bomb technician, you should know that someone without the proper training - like the TH-camr in question - shouldn't be handling explosives, especially without protection or knowing what kind of explosive it is. I'm not calling you a liar, but I am questioning your statement.
If you ever see this copper band on an ogive/cylindrical object: That is a driving band, and a telltale sign of artillery shells. It provides obturation from the gases and is in contact with the rifling of the gun barrel - the same function the copper mantle of bullets has. Mortars are smoothbore and do not have this band. The shell you took out of the water had very distinctive rifling impressions on the band, so it has been fired. The shape of the shell and look of the fuse (the brass tip) identifies this as a live round, most likely a World War I era 18 pounder shell with a No. 85 time fuse in the fuse well. The shell they carried out at the very end of the video has a solid tip and is most likely a practice round containing no explosives.
I think you’re not supposed to take the bombs out of the water… in case changes in pressure, corrosion, temperature make any active explosives more unstable. For your own safety
Found a news report. Most of them were inert but it seems to imply at least a few of them were still live. Nice find, you might have saved lives. Just saw your update, nice!
That wouldn't dry out inside in a year let alone in a day. In the 70s I found a very similar WW1 75mm schrapnel rnd & deactivated it myself along with other projo's, I've still got the lead 1/2" schrapnel balls & M1907 mech time fuze (also deactivated😊)
Went to a lecture and they said one of the reasons to keep potential explosives in the waster you found them, if in salt water, don’t put it in fresh water. Isn’t just the drying effect, but the draining of the water can move things inside causing them to destabilize. The best think is not to move them at all. But many times you don’t know what you have till you come up. He suggested a dry bag filled with water for anything suspicious
Rule #1 regarding artillery rounds or other explosive munitions, and this was drummed into my head when qualifying for SCUBA was "DO NOT TOUCH!" Immersion in water doesn't render them safe, and can in fact make them MORE unsafe. In the future, if you see stuff like this, mark the location, get clear, and contact the professionals.
In general: Yes, don't touch munitions. But since this is in America, those shells were just dumped or lost and have no fuse and primer screwed in - you can even see it in the video that the "tip" is missing. Without the fuse, those munitions are pretty safe to handle, you could even play football with that shell and it wouldn't explode. However, here in Europe it's a different story: most shells/bombs were actually fired/dropped (meaning the fuse and primer were fitted) and just didn't explode for whatever reason. In that case, any slight movement could trigger the mechanical or chemical fuse and the whole thing goes boom. On bigger bombs, the primary charge alone could kill you even if the actual bomb is too decayed too blow up... so no touching!
I worked in Angola and we had unexploded mines mortar shells everywhere after a 27 year civil war. We had two pros from So. Africa directing the marking and removal. THey gave everybody a training course and the first rule was "If you didnt put it there, dont touch it".Lots of mines and lots of men, women and children missing limbs. The mortat shells were usually fired but did not explode becasue they didnt twist the shell far enough before launching. Extremely dangerous, always blown up in place. We recovered artillery shells from the river routinely. We had a few blow up in the shell catcher on the dredge rig.
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Seriously good advice… explosive stability degrades over time especially submerged. Had some kids when I was growing up that found an artillery shell that floated down river from a military range in the ice and thawed out. They threw it in a bonfire and flew themselves up. Don’t mess with UXOs
You might want to take an UXO handling basics class. When you find something like that, you should leave it alone, especially don't take it out of the water. As it dries, things inside change and could potentially cause it to go off.
I couldn't tell if you did on this video, but please remember to raise a "divers below" flag on your personal watercraft. Even if there aren't other watercraft in the area, it's an important notification to law enforcement and others on the surface.
He did the right thing of calling the police and caring about people’s safety. I appreciate how kind he is to the officers and how respectful he is of their lives and work
18:21 finds undetonated explosive shell... double taps it on the fuse. Ballsy move ma man. I would advise more caution with those if you don't want to become fish food someday.
I am not an expert but it looks like they don't have the fuse installed thankfully, still dangerous as the explosive can break down and become unstable over time.
Retired EOD tech here. Let me correct a few things. First if you find something like this leave it alone and make some phone calls. When he pulled the first out he rolled right the nose fuze. That is a mechanical fuze. Probably corrosion kept internal parts in place. The one we got to see has been fired increasing risk. Also it is Ordnance no I in the word.
Agree, leave it alone. Obviously an artillery shell from the brass collar that has a twist, so there are probably more of them from a range some distance away
Well, I've read most of the comments, and I gotta say there's an observation to be made about the negative ones. I suppose it just goes to show that there are asshats in every crowd who feel safe enough behind their screens to mouth off about something they have zero knowledge of and live to deride a person who's actually going out and doing something to try and clean the world up a bit... Lord knows, the world can use some cleaning... Excellent job young man!!! You keep doing what you're doing and stay safe...
Hey son. You do good work but you need to NOT pick these up. Send a screen shot from your phone to a cop. Mark the spot. But don’t touch! One: you may kill yourself. Two: you set an example to the young followers that they should ‘bring one up to show the cops.’ Bad idea. They are stable where they are.
@DALLMYD These municipalities should give you recognition for all the dangerous scrap and crap people throw in the water! Eventually, you find/dig it up (or swim up in this case), and then you call in the big fish to finish trolling your treasure! You're making the world a safer place, every time in doing so (and giving those 1st responders some needed overtime and job security), and for that, I'm thankful, as should every kid/parent/person should be when you find those types of items.
I love that you called the authorities and reported your finding. What you said about them potentially going off and the bridge being structurally damaged and people being hurt is a possibility. 🙏 Who knows what could have set those off or when. Good job!
It is not a mortar shell. It is an artillery shell because the copper band has rifling score marks where the copper engages the rifling grooves in the artillery barrel. Mortars do not have rifling they are smooth bore and use the tail fins for stabilisation where as artillery like bullets use rifling to spin the shell called spin stabilisation and the groves means it has been fired at some point. Where it’s a high explosive or solid is unknown so it’s always best to treat it like it is a high explosive shell.
It is always good to see that not all cops in the US are bad, as someone from the EU we most of the time get a bad video how a cop is on a power trip. But here we get actual helpful people, who are just doing their job.
Honestly, as an American, most of the cops here are actually perfectly good people just doing their jobs. It's just the small bunch of bad cops that get pushed in the news most because negative press sells.
Kind of funny everyone was being so cautious and then in the last shot the dude in green holding the bomb like a loaf of bread next to civilians while sending a text 😂
depends on the type of ordinance most modern explosive material is extremely stable even some of the older ww2 ordinance from the US is stable, its just generally a good practice to not touch them though in case the fuse is still intact, but im guessing these fell off a truck, meaning they likely weren't primed, so the risk of detonation was extremely low
@@steves578 extremely low is still a possibility, I would rather take my chances than to not mess around with a possible explosive. Just like how you should treat every firearm like it's loaded, you should treat every explosive like it could explode immediately
First of all "Thank You", you may have saved some lives and/or damage to property. I am new to this channel but the amount of people that are quick to mention that YOU should clean up the fishing line and trash, etc. that you find, is amazing. Maybe they didn't notice you piling up plates, etc.? Not sure how much it costs to refill tanks or what your time is worth to you but it sounds odd/ungrateful sometimes. If they actually blew up some of these devices at the base, then they were live in some way. How many "Thank You's" have you received compared to how many people are telling you to clean up other peoples' messes? I'm sure some people mean it in a nice way but some are flat out rude. Maybe it's just the way some people come across, some of them should read their comments to someone else before posting them. Great job. 👍
Those are M335A2 illumination rounds for the m30 4.2" mortar. these are used alot by national guard units. good thing is they can be taken apart and the unit issued them will be found by serial numbers. and the person responsible for dumping them will be arrested.
Yeah, I thought it looked a bit big for a 60mm, especially the older 60mm mortar rounds that have a very distinct shape. Columbus GA, home of the Infantry, Rangers, Airborne School for many decades. Probably lots of boom stuff lying around :).
My first thought was 105mm artillery training rounds, but the problem with that theory is that they appeared to have been fired (rifling marks in the rings), yet were all in the same place, and were relatively intact... So as someone who is mostly only acquainted with ordinance through War Thunder and some TH-cam, it's nice to know that I was actually pretty damn close.
@@quinszar Since it was a 4.2" mortar shell, which is about 106mm, I'd say it was definitely big enough; plus, a live WWII 105mm projectile only weighed about 36lbs. It was certainly too small to be 155 though.
All of those are potentially dangerous... the shell you pulled out is the "warhead" (artillery comes separated to allow adjustments to the amount of cordite bags you put in for differing ranges) while there was alot of casings -> new shells are fairly inert (Will not arm unless you fire em, artillery people will scare newbies with em all the time by dropping them etc). Let em rot and rust in water then you have a problem - they are high explosive and the trigger mech may have been damaged - so when you see the fuse (top bit you pointed at) and the ring (bottom bit - for rifling) DO NOT TOUCH - secondly - those other casing - have artillery sized percussion caps in them - also a bad idea to touch - lay em on the side and dont let the bottom hit anything.
At first I thought you kidnapped a fish but then I realised those were lures Also the knife unsheathing and sheathing looks like a video game animation
Hey Jake I'm really glad your taking garbage out of the rivers you dive. But please take as much of the monofilament line as you can. Ducks will get caught up on it and get hurt or just perish outright. Thanks man I appreciate you doing all you can.
Consider carrying some plastic bags with zip ties for things like the bike. You can zip tie the plastic bag to the item, and fill it from your regulator to send it to the surface.
If the 1st one was discharged, then the other 10 or so could have been equally dangerous. Ordinance is never to be taken lightly and I think you did everything right. Well done and thanks for looking out for your community and fellow man. Rock on man.
Most ambulances exist in a precarious balance between the opposing forces of the budget and what it costs to replace an ambulance, and the Chief's desperate wish that the ambulance would spontaneously combust so they have no other option but buy a new one.
Basically when you find something like that, step back carefully, and retreat. Mark the place well and call 911. That is called UXO. Might not work after many years of immersion, but it is just better let someone with the training, equipment, and insurance handle it. The worst to find is one in which the driving band has been engraved by the rifling, suggesting that the shell has been fired and been armed and for some reason has not gone off yet. Even some ordnance from the civil war is still consider dangerous.
a channel called Adventures With Purpose started out as a coup!e of guys diving in lakes and rivers cleaning up junk. then they started finding and hauling cars out of the water.eventually they were finding *people* in the cars. now _that's_ their whole purpose. they go all over the country investigating missing persons, track their last known whereabouts, and pull them out of bodies of water. it's an amazing channel.
Careful the guy that started AWP turned out to have a very nasty criminal background he is currently on trial for it. Unfortunately the other guys that he worked with were awesome and they’ve been trying to start their own channels up doing the same thing but he’s got a nasty noncompete on them. After finding out what he did I won’t support that channel by watching. It’s a shame that families that needed help and the rest of the guys who seem to be genuinely good guys got caught in the middle.
One of the rare instances of the police being level headed and reasonable. A solid reminder that while there are a lot of bad cops out there, there's also a lot who are just doing their jobs. It just varies heavily from area to area.
two things are super concerning to me: firstly DALLMYD has dived this river so many times and not found these, secondly they're right under a bridge, so like he said if they were activated, they would destroy that bridge.
I found a few guns slowing down the day before. I had the same idea on this dive and found those "cylinders" I thought what are the chances ya know lol
It wasn’t right under the bridge….. And the blast radius of those mortar rounds, under water, isn’t great enough to damage the bridge. It was an HE round to begin with. It was an RP or WP round. Nothing would have happened.
The bombs are fired artillery projectiles, the grooves on the driving bands indicate that they have been fired. The condition of the fuse looks too good to have been fired. My best guess is they were dad’s or grand dad’s collection of deactivated projectiles that mom or grandma didn’t want around the house after they died
Son, you brave as HELL swimmin around in the Chattahoochee like that. You gonna come outta there with extra eyes like some of these fish. And yeah, those are prolly mortar rounds, look too small for tank shells. Columbus is right next door to the largest infantry base in the country. Airborne school, armor school, all kinda shit goes on at Ft. Moore (formerly Ft Benning). Aint no TELLIN how much ordinance has been misplaced in that river over the years.
I know I was only in the military for thirty years, but the first thing they told us was not to take your radios around unexploded ordnance. But you know...
You were bot in for 30 years if you say something that stupid. Or you were just stupid for 30 years and spreading bad info. You dont use radios when blasting uncase of frequency bleed on a remote detonator. Otherwise its perfectly safe to broadcast around explosives.
I watched a video a long time ago where cops were hassling kids who were magnet fishing. Oh wait. This guy is a boot licker who won't record cops in public spaces when he is told not to. TH-cam just showing me the other side so I would comment.
This looks hella fun You should put the spring-loaded door on your jar so you can slip stuff inside without having to unscrew it. Try running a bungie from the bottom up through the lid, so it'll pull itself shut but can be opened with a pull.
Okay, divers finding guns is one thing but finding bombs is a whole another level of treasure hunting. Never expected to see content like this but man I appreciate your effort to clean them up. Also some tips if this ever happen again. When you figure out it is possibly a bomb you have already taken a close look so gental handelig is fine. However taking it out of the water made me nervous as a unused explosive is pretty safe but an unexploded ordinance (UXO) can explode at any moment for way too many reasons depend on why the original triggering mechanism didn't work and draining water out of it might just be enough to set those off. Take a random container and scoop the possibly bomb up with the water to avoid that. Another thing if you are curious, the fact that there is a bunch of them all together and the solders just casually take them out of the water probably means someone dumped some unused morter shells there likely around WW2, those are really safe unless you screw with it (hit the back with a rock or something stupid).
Hey @DALLMYD I've been watching your videos for about 4 years and 6months I have epilepsy and after watching your videos it inspired me to do my fishing and madic fishing due to my epilepsy it's been hard for my fishing but watching you made me feel more stronger than ever before thank you so much your my hero
Looks like a 75 mm artillery shell used by the M1897, the grandfather of all modern artillery. You can tell that is have been fired by the lateral grooves in the ring towards the bottom.
@@InLawsAtticthe 75mm artillery entered US service in 1927, I can't find a date for when they were completely retired from service but I can find a date for the m116 75mm Howitzer being used in 1962. The spot he's diving is just a few miles away from Ft. Benning and well within the range of a Howitzer. However, with the number of rounds he found in close proximity I'd wager a guess that they were dumped there by some soldiers who were told to make them disappear. Funnily enough, he found these a few hundred feet away from the civil war naval museum, and just down river of the world's largest urban white water course.
The proper term is Ordnance. Moving them out of the water has the potential to trigger them if they are properly sealed and equipped with timers. Best to photograph in place and present to authorities with exact locations and remain on site to secure and increase successful recovery.
You did the right thing though. If anyone finds anything they think might be some kind of explosive or piece of ammunition, take note of where it is, leave the area to get to a safe location, and call the police so that an EOD team can safely dispose of it.
I was born, raised and served in the USAF. One day I was driving by a squadron building and saw a bunch of airmen sitting in chairs, laughing and chilling in the outdoors having a good time. I thought to myself that it must be nice not working while I was busting my ass in 100+ degree weather trying to get supplies on time to an aircraft so it could continue with the ongoing wargames. Then I passed their squadron sign and it said "EOD, Explosive Ordinance Disposal". Sometimes, some people deserve more than just downtime sitting in a chair.
I think that the bombs are actually artillery shells, because the copper ring with ridges on the rear of the shell are designed to engage with the machined spiralled rifling grooves on the inside of the artillery barrel to cause the shell to spin when its fired and it travels up the barrel to aid stabilisation of the shell body and therefore accuracy to hit its target.
That would be my opinion too. They're inert (dummy rounds) used for practice but, why were they left there in a shallow river near a bridge? Is there a Military base nearby?
@@bertram_oredrock They don't look inert; one has a mostly intact fuse and that yellow material they're packed with looks just like explosive. And yeah, Fort Benning is a few miles South on the river so that's probably why they're there. I'd be curious to know how they ended up in the river.
Ok, if you find something that you suspect to be an explosive, don’t move it. Call the authorities obviously, but just mark where you found the thing and DO NOT TOUCH IT!!!
Definitely fired artillery shell. You can see the rifling marks in the band near the rear. Looks like the fuse has corroded out, but the explosive material can get unstable over time and randomly detonate (UK has those problems, France, etc.) Glad none went off full blast, as shells that size can cause quite a mess. Seen stuff half that size erase Russians and send pieces flying. Pieces of the Russian, that is.
The city I live in in Germany that was heavly bombed in the 2nd World War. Construction worker usually find about one bomb a year. It is some what "normal", because everyone knows this happens every once in a while. If nessary the nearby neighbourhoods are evacuated or informed that they might hear an explosion.
Here in Belgium, we find unexploded ordnance from WWI on a daily basis. To the point there's a bomb truck doing weekly rounds like a garbage collector. Everything smaller than a 2l bottle we put by the side of the road for pickup, only for larger bombs the bomb squad comes out.
Here's my perspective while scuba diving and finding things underwater in the river!
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Might I seriously recommend that you research standard military ordinance if you are coming across that many. Just for your own sake that you can know which to move and which to leave a Marker at. 🤗
That is crazy . I’m surprised they didn’t go looking around that same area for more to be on the safe side . I guess that gives you something to go searching for again😊 Be safe and thank you for all you do .
You did a great job as you always do when it comes to handling situations like this. Yes that would be cool but don't put your life in danger if it can be prevented. Have a great and safe day @ DALLMYD
What camera do you use in accordance with the DJI mic? Asking because I'm thinking about getting them for my podcast. Thank you!
If you find ordnance again - don't touch it!!
Even after decades - you might find out they still work perfectly. A few years ago - a professional EOD tech got killed here in Germany by a WW2 bomb.
These grenades won't take down the bridge - but they could rip you to pieces easily.
Stay safe!!
He doesn’t really have to worry about the shrapnel killing him but the shockwave caused by it because water doesn’t compress easily.
I am a former military bomb disposal specialist.
That is an artillery round, not a mortar or bomb. It has also been fired out of an artillery tube already. You can determine that it has been fired out of a tube because the brass ring towards the base is smeared with the grooves of the barrel rifling. A round that hasn't been shot would have a smooth brass ring.
And yes, these are incredibly dangerous. Don't touch it! Mark near the location (not the actual device) then call the police.
In your opinion, how do you think these got to this point? Is it possible over time they traveled down the stream? They're all just so close together makes you wonder. Why they are there, who shot them, and how long ago they were shot.
Some yokel tossed them off the bridge.
@@geekazoid47 in the city just like that crazyy must be a collector XD
is it a 109mm or some 75mm ? i say sherman 75mm he. hope fully training ammo which someone dug out of a training area and later someone dumped them there coz of fear of police action wehn you bring them in
What do you think is the reason for them to not have exploded? I see you think somebody tossed them in, so is it possible that they were all duds somebody collected and failed to handle approprietly?
My takeaways from this video:
1) Fishing is an expensive hobby.
2) If I need a new phone, check the local river.
3) If I'm looking for a stolen bike or scooter, check the local river.
4) If doing either #1, #2, or #3, try not to explode.
Also if you're in need of a knife, check the local river.
Those are artillery rounds for a WW1-era French 75mm cannon. It was the standard field artillery piece used by France and adopted by the US Army. Hundreds of millions of shells were manufactured. The driving band (the brass ring at the base) is a dead giveaway (most driving bands are solid rings without grooves). In addition, these should be considered extremely dangerous. The conical brass part on top is the fuze. (French 75mm ammunition was manufactured with fuzes attached to the shells, so they could be easily uncrated and fired in battle. Most artillery shells --and certainly all modern shells--are manufactured and shipped with the fuzes separate from the shells, adding a step to the pre-firing process but reducing the risk of accidental detonation in transit and handling.) The fuzes have built in safety features to prevent accidental detonation (and surely decades under water has negated some of the reactivity of the explosive primer). But still, you'd definitely want to handle with care. (I'd have left them alone underwater. Take photos and let the bomb disposal team do the job.)
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As a former bomb technician, these appear to be WW1 era 75 mm shrapnel rounds with black powder fuzes. Fairy safe to transport, but still holding aged explosives inside. You did the right thing to notify police, but they could use a quick class from their local bomb squad. 😋
what are they doing in an american river?
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They were lost in a tragic boating accident.
@@PbsMks damn they look pretty modern for a ww1 shell, doesnt look like it can be recessed in a cassing as older shells were, this shell looks like the modern ones we load in 2 separated pieces.
@@PbsMks I was thinking WW2 75mm based just on size and an internet search. I'm just a former grunt, so your expertise is probably more accurate.
For starters, it's 'fairly,' not 'fairy.' Also, no, you shouldn't transport explosives from a lake. If you're a bomb technician, you should know that someone without the proper training - like the TH-camr in question - shouldn't be handling explosives, especially without protection or knowing what kind of explosive it is. I'm not calling you a liar, but I am questioning your statement.
If you ever see this copper band on an ogive/cylindrical object: That is a driving band, and a telltale sign of artillery shells. It provides obturation from the gases and is in contact with the rifling of the gun barrel - the same function the copper mantle of bullets has. Mortars are smoothbore and do not have this band. The shell you took out of the water had very distinctive rifling impressions on the band, so it has been fired. The shape of the shell and look of the fuse (the brass tip) identifies this as a live round, most likely a World War I era 18 pounder shell with a No. 85 time fuse in the fuse well. The shell they carried out at the very end of the video has a solid tip and is most likely a practice round containing no explosives.
I think you’re not supposed to take the bombs out of the water… in case changes in pressure, corrosion, temperature make any active explosives more unstable. For your own safety
Me as the bomb starts to wizzle - "womp womp"
@@lul.t.6831 Yeah but think of the views. That's cash money right there.
Found a news report. Most of them were inert but it seems to imply at least a few of them were still live. Nice find, you might have saved lives. Just saw your update, nice!
Last time I saw someone pull explosives out of the water, they were told to keep them in a bucket of water rather than let them dry out.
That's right. Pressure, temperature, and just drying out could set them off
Correct
100% correct even a bucket of water. Keep in water is a must
That wouldn't dry out inside in a year let alone in a day. In the 70s I found a very similar WW1 75mm schrapnel rnd & deactivated it myself along with other projo's, I've still got the lead 1/2" schrapnel balls & M1907 mech time fuze (also deactivated😊)
Went to a lecture and they said one of the reasons to keep potential explosives in the waster you found them, if in salt water, don’t put it in fresh water. Isn’t just the drying effect, but the draining of the water can move things inside causing them to destabilize. The best think is not to move them at all. But many times you don’t know what you have till you come up. He suggested a dry bag filled with water for anything suspicious
Rule #1 regarding artillery rounds or other explosive munitions, and this was drummed into my head when qualifying for SCUBA was "DO NOT TOUCH!" Immersion in water doesn't render them safe, and can in fact make them MORE unsafe. In the future, if you see stuff like this, mark the location, get clear, and contact the professionals.
In general: Yes, don't touch munitions. But since this is in America, those shells were just dumped or lost and have no fuse and primer screwed in - you can even see it in the video that the "tip" is missing. Without the fuse, those munitions are pretty safe to handle, you could even play football with that shell and it wouldn't explode.
However, here in Europe it's a different story: most shells/bombs were actually fired/dropped (meaning the fuse and primer were fitted) and just didn't explode for whatever reason. In that case, any slight movement could trigger the mechanical or chemical fuse and the whole thing goes boom. On bigger bombs, the primary charge alone could kill you even if the actual bomb is too decayed too blow up... so no touching!
I worked in Angola and we had unexploded mines mortar shells everywhere after a 27 year civil war. We had two pros from So. Africa directing the marking and removal. THey gave everybody a training course and the first rule was "If you didnt put it there, dont touch it".Lots of mines and lots of men, women and children missing limbs. The mortat shells were usually fired but did not explode becasue they didnt twist the shell far enough before launching. Extremely dangerous, always blown up in place. We recovered artillery shells from the river routinely. We had a few blow up in the shell catcher on the dredge rig.
Rule # 2, GO TO rule number 1
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@@deboraharmstrong3002 Ian MacKynnes, Dragon's Laire, An Tir. Haven't been active in an age, Saturday became a workday. And if you need a herald, let me know, been doing it since West Kingdom may crown 1976, got some of my training from Duke Fredric.
JAKE STOP PICKING THINGS UP THAT LOOK LIKE THAT!
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Seriously good advice… explosive stability degrades over time especially submerged. Had some kids when I was growing up that found an artillery shell that floated down river from a military range in the ice and thawed out. They threw it in a bonfire and flew themselves up. Don’t mess with UXOs
@@Mongooseonthaloosewhy am so alpha
Hater
@@FarhanaYeasmin-os7wi because I worked in that field and I’m a diver bruh… start using your brain
You might want to take an UXO handling basics class. When you find something like that, you should leave it alone, especially don't take it out of the water. As it dries, things inside change and could potentially cause it to go off.
I couldn't tell if you did on this video, but please remember to raise a "divers below" flag on your personal watercraft. Even if there aren't other watercraft in the area, it's an important notification to law enforcement and others on the surface.
He did the right thing of calling the police and caring about people’s safety. I appreciate how kind he is to the officers and how respectful he is of their lives and work
Officer Zaman seems to be a really nice guy and a fan. The police force could need more people like him ^.^
18:21 finds undetonated explosive shell... double taps it on the fuse.
Ballsy move ma man. I would advise more caution with those if you don't want to become fish food someday.
I am not an expert but it looks like they don't have the fuse installed thankfully, still dangerous as the explosive can break down and become unstable over time.
@@SoulReaper1942look at another comment, those shells were manufactured with the fuses already installed.
Retired EOD tech here. Let me correct a few things. First if you find something like this leave it alone and make some phone calls. When he pulled the first out he rolled right the nose fuze. That is a mechanical fuze. Probably corrosion kept internal parts in place. The one we got to see has been fired increasing risk. Also it is Ordnance no I in the word.
Ok mcgyver😂
Agree, leave it alone. Obviously an artillery shell from the brass collar that has a twist, so there are probably more of them from a range some distance away
Nobody cares. Save your babbling for the wife.
You don't care. You don't speak for the rest of us.
@@DeadButDreaming666go ahead and play with unexplored ordnance. Have fun with that. Do you realize how utterly stupid you sound?
The part I found funny at about 23:20 “it’s weird talking to you with a camera in my face”. From a cop wearing a body cam. Haha
They’re all a special breed of human, they are allowed to do whatever they want and nothing can be done to them.
@@jflannel1965 bro what
Somebody change the brakes on that ambulance!!!!! Holy piercing screech
My poor ears😢😮
Right!!! Geez
Not in the budget
@@_JamesBrown 🤣 right
Well, I've read most of the comments, and I gotta say there's an observation to be made about the negative ones. I suppose it just goes to show that there are asshats in every crowd who feel safe enough behind their screens to mouth off about something they have zero knowledge of and live to deride a person who's actually going out and doing something to try and clean the world up a bit... Lord knows, the world can use some cleaning... Excellent job young man!!! You keep doing what you're doing and stay safe...
Couldn't agree more!!!
I'm happy that DALLMYD uploaded and I hope everyone is safe in this video
Goo goo gaga
Hey son. You do good work but you need to NOT pick these up. Send a screen shot from your phone to a cop. Mark the spot. But don’t touch! One: you may kill yourself. Two: you set an example to the young followers that they should ‘bring one up to show the cops.’ Bad idea. They are stable where they are.
"Im not sure, what do you think?" Cop "I think im going to stand over there!" As he walks past you. Lol
I appreciate the lack of music at the end. You didn't make it overly dramatic and you kept it real. Thank you!
@DALLMYD These municipalities should give you recognition for all the dangerous scrap and crap people throw in the water! Eventually, you find/dig it up (or swim up in this case), and then you call in the big fish to finish trolling your treasure! You're making the world a safer place, every time in doing so (and giving those 1st responders some needed overtime and job security), and for that, I'm thankful, as should every kid/parent/person should be when you find those types of items.
I love that you called the authorities and reported your finding. What you said about them potentially going off and the bridge being structurally damaged and people being hurt is a possibility. 🙏 Who knows what could have set those off or when. Good job!
It is not a mortar shell. It is an artillery shell because the copper band has rifling score marks where the copper engages the rifling grooves in the artillery barrel. Mortars do not have rifling they are smooth bore and use the tail fins for stabilisation where as artillery like bullets use rifling to spin the shell called spin stabilisation and the groves means it has been fired at some point. Where it’s a high explosive or solid is unknown so it’s always best to treat it like it is a high explosive shell.
I think that one he brought out of the water was a WW1 US Scovill Model 1907 M artillery shell
It is always good to see that not all cops in the US are bad, as someone from the EU we most of the time get a bad video how a cop is on a power trip. But here we get actual helpful people, who are just doing their job.
thats because in the EU all you see is communist propaganda
Honestly, as an American, most of the cops here are actually perfectly good people just doing their jobs. It's just the small bunch of bad cops that get pushed in the news most because negative press sells.
Kind of funny everyone was being so cautious and then in the last shot the dude in green holding the bomb like a loaf of bread next to civilians while sending a text 😂
I really appreciate how you filmed this entertaining content while being very responsible and respectful 🎉
the brakes on that ambulance needed an ambulance.
That was comical, I laughed hard. If I was in a life or death situation, eyes closed, I'd have died. Would have thought it was a train.
Worst I've ever heard.
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OMG! Seriously! Maintenance!
Really disappointed that you didn't get that bike in your collection jar. I think you could have managed it if you'd taken the front wheel off.
I love how this dude finds 11 unexploded mortar shells and everyone is concerned about the lures he found
26:34 the transition to the long screeching ambulance is peace of art
I recommend NOT picking up UXO's (Unexploded Ordnance) next time! Explosives get very unstable after time bro.
depends on the type of ordinance most modern explosive material is extremely stable even some of the older ww2 ordinance from the US is stable, its just generally a good practice to not touch them though in case the fuse is still intact, but im guessing these fell off a truck, meaning they likely weren't primed, so the risk of detonation was extremely low
also, bot account, just realized
@@steves578rule number one of UXOs is don’t touch it! Mark location, and call EOD always!
@@steves578 extremely low is still a possibility, I would rather take my chances than to not mess around with a possible explosive. Just like how you should treat every firearm like it's loaded, you should treat every explosive like it could explode immediately
@@steves578 As a standard, if you find UXO, don't touch it. Leave it where it is and call it in.
First of all "Thank You", you may have saved some lives and/or damage to property. I am new to this channel but the amount of people that are quick to mention that YOU should clean up the fishing line and trash, etc. that you find, is amazing. Maybe they didn't notice you piling up plates, etc.? Not sure how much it costs to refill tanks or what your time is worth to you but it sounds odd/ungrateful sometimes. If they actually blew up some of these devices at the base, then they were live in some way. How many "Thank You's" have you received compared to how many people are telling you to clean up other peoples' messes? I'm sure some people mean it in a nice way but some are flat out rude. Maybe it's just the way some people come across, some of them should read their comments to someone else before posting them. Great job. 👍
No replies wow they wrote all of this and no replies that’s rude
He didn't put the bike in the jar 😥
Maybe it had a theftproof padlock on it, and he couldn't break the code
I know what a fumble 😢
Lol I was hoping he would at least try
it cant fit
Need shrink ray for it lol
That ambulance truck needs new brakes ASAP! LOL
That EMS needs to get those brakes checked lol
Close enough to Ft. Benning. That could be why! There's some 11C at Benning going "oh crap...that's where it went !!! Top's gonna kick my ass" LOL
Noticed that you leave all the fishing lines behind. When snorkeling we always cleaned that stuff up.
Thank you to all the first responders and the military for seeing to this situation so quickly and efficiently.
7:16 Fish is like HEY! YOU STOLE MY FRIEND! GIVE HIM BACK!
Those are M335A2 illumination rounds for the m30 4.2" mortar. these are used alot by national guard units. good thing is they can be taken apart and the unit issued them will be found by serial numbers. and the person responsible for dumping them will be arrested.
Yeah, I thought it looked a bit big for a 60mm, especially the older 60mm mortar rounds that have a very distinct shape. Columbus GA, home of the Infantry, Rangers, Airborne School for many decades. Probably lots of boom stuff lying around :).
Why not 105mm artillery or tank round?
@@rogerwilco2 its not big enough a 105 or a 155 takes two to carry.
My first thought was 105mm artillery training rounds, but the problem with that theory is that they appeared to have been fired (rifling marks in the rings), yet were all in the same place, and were relatively intact... So as someone who is mostly only acquainted with ordinance through War Thunder and some TH-cam, it's nice to know that I was actually pretty damn close.
@@quinszar Since it was a 4.2" mortar shell, which is about 106mm, I'd say it was definitely big enough; plus, a live WWII 105mm projectile only weighed about 36lbs. It was certainly too small to be 155 though.
All of those are potentially dangerous... the shell you pulled out is the "warhead" (artillery comes separated to allow adjustments to the amount of cordite bags you put in for differing ranges) while there was alot of casings -> new shells are fairly inert (Will not arm unless you fire em, artillery people will scare newbies with em all the time by dropping them etc). Let em rot and rust in water then you have a problem - they are high explosive and the trigger mech may have been damaged - so when you see the fuse (top bit you pointed at) and the ring (bottom bit - for rifling) DO NOT TOUCH - secondly - those other casing - have artillery sized percussion caps in them - also a bad idea to touch - lay em on the side and dont let the bottom hit anything.
At first I thought you kidnapped a fish but then I realised those were lures
Also the knife unsheathing and sheathing looks like a video game animation
Hey Jake I'm really glad your taking garbage out of the rivers you dive. But please take as much of the monofilament line as you can. Ducks will get caught up on it and get hurt or just perish outright. Thanks man I appreciate you doing all you can.
I love how consistently you sheathe the knife. Feels like I'm playing a Far Cry game or something.
Did I ever tell you the definition of insanity?
30:35 cop casually holding ordinance by his head whilst txting his Mrs "be home soon honey" 😂
Pretty sure that isn't even a cop looks more military to me.
@@TheBestBryce fair enough, doesn't my observation :) thanks for letting me know my comments can actually be seen..hard to know these days
@@olsim1730 I feel you
Consider carrying some plastic bags with zip ties for things like the bike. You can zip tie the plastic bag to the item, and fill it from your regulator to send it to the surface.
If the 1st one was discharged, then the other 10 or so could have been equally dangerous. Ordinance is never to be taken lightly and I think you did everything right. Well done and thanks for looking out for your community and fellow man. Rock on man.
Two of them had explosives, the other nine didn't, but good point
Somebody need to check the breaks on that ambulance. Thing was screeching like a banshee
Most ambulances exist in a precarious balance between the opposing forces of the budget and what it costs to replace an ambulance, and the Chief's desperate wish that the ambulance would spontaneously combust so they have no other option but buy a new one.
Brakes stop a vehicle
Basically when you find something like that, step back carefully, and retreat. Mark the place well and call 911. That is called UXO. Might not work after many years of immersion, but it is just better let someone with the training, equipment, and insurance handle it. The worst to find is one in which the driving band has been engraved by the rifling, suggesting that the shell has been fired and been armed and for some reason has not gone off yet.
Even some ordnance from the civil war is still consider dangerous.
a channel called Adventures With Purpose started out as a coup!e of guys diving in lakes and rivers cleaning up junk. then they started finding and hauling cars out of the water.eventually they were finding *people* in the cars.
now _that's_ their whole purpose. they go all over the country investigating missing persons, track their last known whereabouts, and pull them out of bodies of water. it's an amazing channel.
Careful the guy that started AWP turned out to have a very nasty criminal background he is currently on trial for it. Unfortunately the other guys that he worked with were awesome and they’ve been trying to start their own channels up doing the same thing but he’s got a nasty noncompete on them. After finding out what he did I won’t support that channel by watching. It’s a shame that families that needed help and the rest of the guys who seem to be genuinely good guys got caught in the middle.
@@victoriamahon3765 - I did not know that. I'll look it up.
The real victim here is those brakes on the ambulance 😂
Can we start a go fund me for that ambulance so we can get some new brakes For it😂😂
I was thinking exactly the same 😂
I wonder if your local dispatch hears, "So, I make youtube videos-" and immediately thinks "Oh, God, what did he find this time?"
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i love your little exclamations when you find stuff - even when its not very exciting stuff. "wooh hoo" xx
1940s 76mm M62A1 WWII Sherman Tank round
and they have been Fired. Lot of these were dumped in rivers back in the 40's and 50's.
I saw the bike and was like... That's not gonna fit in the jar. 😂
This was cool and it's nice to see police not acting the fool.
My only thought is "DAMN! That ambulance needs a brake job."
One of the rare instances of the police being level headed and reasonable. A solid reminder that while there are a lot of bad cops out there, there's also a lot who are just doing their jobs. It just varies heavily from area to area.
Wow thanks for posting. Much respect you take the trash and not just fishing valuables. Good dude, the wildlife appreciate!
clicked for the bombs, stayed for the collecting of shiny things(and completely forgot about the bombs)
Same 😅
two things are super concerning to me: firstly DALLMYD has dived this river so many times and not found these, secondly they're right under a bridge, so like he said if they were activated, they would destroy that bridge.
I found a few guns slowing down the day before. I had the same idea on this dive and found those "cylinders" I thought what are the chances ya know lol
No. 3: He said "I think that's a bomb!" Then proceeds to move them around. 😲
It wasn’t right under the bridge….. And the blast radius of those mortar rounds, under water, isn’t great enough to damage the bridge. It was an HE round to begin with. It was an RP or WP round. Nothing would have happened.
You should collect those plastic bags...they kill wildlife who think they're jellies and eat them.
The bombs are fired artillery projectiles, the grooves on the driving bands indicate that they have been fired. The condition of the fuse looks too good to have been fired. My best guess is they were dad’s or grand dad’s collection of deactivated projectiles that mom or grandma didn’t want around the house after they died
So you found a knife, car keys and a cell phone, my mind says crime scene evidence
26:38 jesus christ. someone send that thing to a mechanic! sounds like a horror movie.
holy hell yeah who the hell put all the strings from an orchestra in there
bro, I thought that shit was edited or something lol you're right
For anyone wondering, it's at 18:12
Thanks lmao
Son, you brave as HELL swimmin around in the Chattahoochee like that.
You gonna come outta there with extra eyes like some of these fish.
And yeah, those are prolly mortar rounds, look too small for tank shells. Columbus is right next door to the largest infantry base in the country. Airborne school, armor school, all kinda shit goes on at Ft. Moore (formerly Ft Benning). Aint no TELLIN how much ordinance has been misplaced in that river over the years.
I just gotta say your truck is super bad ass
I know I was only in the military for thirty years, but the first thing they told us was not to take your radios around unexploded ordnance. But you know...
You were bot in for 30 years if you say something that stupid. Or you were just stupid for 30 years and spreading bad info. You dont use radios when blasting uncase of frequency bleed on a remote detonator. Otherwise its perfectly safe to broadcast around explosives.
Normal people: Oh my god! A bomb!
Me: Whose idea was it to have a whole dinner party under the bridge???
Did we all get recommended this video? Uploaded a month ago but so many comments from today
you might be on to something!
I watched a video a long time ago where cops were hassling kids who were magnet fishing. Oh wait. This guy is a boot licker who won't record cops in public spaces when he is told not to. TH-cam just showing me the other side so I would comment.
Yup.
Yep..that algorithm...
Yep
Fisherman: I guess I'll just throw my entire collection of sinkers in this river...
Along with your dinner service
i was half expecting him to put the bike into the jar
"Called some military friends and they said to step away from it immediately" while standing right next to it.
13:44 That fish was a total bro. He's all like "Thanks for cleaning this up."
This looks hella fun
You should put the spring-loaded door on your jar so you can slip stuff inside without having to unscrew it. Try running a bungie from the bottom up through the lid, so it'll pull itself shut but can be opened with a pull.
Okay, divers finding guns is one thing but finding bombs is a whole another level of treasure hunting. Never expected to see content like this but man I appreciate your effort to clean them up.
Also some tips if this ever happen again. When you figure out it is possibly a bomb you have already taken a close look so gental handelig is fine. However taking it out of the water made me nervous as a unused explosive is pretty safe but an unexploded ordinance (UXO) can explode at any moment for way too many reasons depend on why the original triggering mechanism didn't work and draining water out of it might just be enough to set those off. Take a random container and scoop the possibly bomb up with the water to avoid that.
Another thing if you are curious, the fact that there is a bunch of them all together and the solders just casually take them out of the water probably means someone dumped some unused morter shells there likely around WW2, those are really safe unless you screw with it (hit the back with a rock or something stupid).
18:00 I actually expected the Nokia to power on. lol.
looks more like a siemens
Last scene of the dude carrying one while he's on his phone with the other hand kinda proves that the level of actual concern was low 🤣
Hey @DALLMYD I've been watching your videos for about 4 years and 6months I have epilepsy and after watching your videos it inspired me to do my fishing and madic fishing due to my epilepsy it's been hard for my fishing but watching you made me feel more stronger than ever before thank you so much your my hero
Looks like a 75 mm artillery shell used by the M1897, the grandfather of all modern artillery. You can tell that is have been fired by the lateral grooves in the ring towards the bottom.
wow looks pretty spot on, those grooves made from the rifling?
What time period do you guess they are from and why there? Any idea?
@@InLawsAtticthe 75mm artillery entered US service in 1927, I can't find a date for when they were completely retired from service but I can find a date for the m116 75mm Howitzer being used in 1962. The spot he's diving is just a few miles away from Ft. Benning and well within the range of a Howitzer. However, with the number of rounds he found in close proximity I'd wager a guess that they were dumped there by some soldiers who were told to make them disappear.
Funnily enough, he found these a few hundred feet away from the civil war naval museum, and just down river of the world's largest urban white water course.
@@Evil_Emperor_Zurg wow, thanks! Puts my mind at ease, worried terrorizm might be the cause… at a bridge! That is very interesting! Thank you!
that moment when you realize you're surrounded by a bunch of bombs
Explosives aside that's a surprising amount of knives in such a short time. I guess the fishermen lose more than just lures?
7:16 I love that fish just hanging out watching what he's doing, and how he waves to it and it still just sits there as if in bewilderment.
The proper term is Ordnance. Moving them out of the water has the potential to trigger them if they are properly sealed and equipped with timers. Best to photograph in place and present to authorities with exact locations and remain on site to secure and increase successful recovery.
And in this case unexploded ordinance. (UXO)
You did the right thing though. If anyone finds anything they think might be some kind of explosive or piece of ammunition, take note of where it is, leave the area to get to a safe location, and call the police so that an EOD team can safely dispose of it.
EOD = Explosive Ordinance... Detonation? Disposal?
@@Neamerjell
Disposal though they do tend to detonate the rounds
I was born, raised and served in the USAF. One day I was driving by a squadron building and saw a bunch of airmen sitting in chairs, laughing and chilling in the outdoors having a good time. I thought to myself that it must be nice not working while I was busting my ass in 100+ degree weather trying to get supplies on time to an aircraft so it could continue with the ongoing wargames. Then I passed their squadron sign and it said "EOD, Explosive Ordinance Disposal". Sometimes, some people deserve more than just downtime sitting in a chair.
30:29 Cops and military carrying bombs, woman jogs thru the scene. LOL
12:28 watching you jam your hand into that jar where you have been putting countless hooks was terrifying
If you find explosives please leave them in the water. If you bring them ashore they will start drying and get unstable.
EXACTLY RIGHT 👍👍 💯💯...FUCCN LUCKY😮😮😮
That's dangerous! All water ways should be checked further!
Jake picking up an explosive could cause it to go off. I watched one where they found mustard gas and it seriously injured the guy.
At 9:55 when you pressed the buttons on that car key I'd like to imagine someone's car just started locking/unlocking with a very confused owner 😂
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I think that the bombs are actually artillery shells, because the copper ring with ridges on the rear of the shell are designed to engage with the machined spiralled rifling grooves on the inside of the artillery barrel to cause the shell to spin when its fired and it travels up the barrel to aid stabilisation of the shell body and therefore accuracy to hit its target.
That would be my opinion too. They're inert (dummy rounds) used for practice but, why were they left there in a shallow river near a bridge? Is there a Military base nearby?
Fort Moore (formerly Benning) is there. It has Infantry, Armor, Ranger units, among others.
@@bertram_oredrock They don't look inert; one has a mostly intact fuse and that yellow material they're packed with looks just like explosive. And yeah, Fort Benning is a few miles South on the river so that's probably why they're there. I'd be curious to know how they ended up in the river.
Ok, if you find something that you suspect to be an explosive, don’t move it. Call the authorities obviously, but just mark where you found the thing and DO NOT TOUCH IT!!!
Seriously, holy shit. If the fuse was still live on any of those, and the high explosives were any good, he would've been a goner.
Definitely fired artillery shell. You can see the rifling marks in the band near the rear. Looks like the fuse has corroded out, but the explosive material can get unstable over time and randomly detonate (UK has those problems, France, etc.) Glad none went off full blast, as shells that size can cause quite a mess. Seen stuff half that size erase Russians and send pieces flying. Pieces of the Russian, that is.
It’s people like you Jake that truly are helping our society. Keep up the great work. I did subscribe.
The city I live in in Germany that was heavly bombed in the 2nd World War. Construction worker usually find about one bomb a year. It is some what "normal", because everyone knows this happens every once in a while. If nessary the nearby neighbourhoods are evacuated or informed that they might hear an explosion.
Here in Belgium, we find unexploded ordnance from WWI on a daily basis. To the point there's a bomb truck doing weekly rounds like a garbage collector. Everything smaller than a 2l bottle we put by the side of the road for pickup, only for larger bombs the bomb squad comes out.